[RNLD] Git for file managment.

Ivan Kapitonov ikapitonov at student.unimelb.edu.au
Wed Jul 26 00:12:01 EDT 2017

Maybe I'm missing the specific point of comparison Tom is making (and I
haven't looked into pachyderm — thanks for heads-up!), but git also stores
the changes as the diffs between commits, so it shouldn't be less space
efficient. Given that Hugh mentions .eaf's, textgrids and the like as the
objects to version control, that shouldn't be an issue anyway.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Tom Honeyman <t.honeyman at gmail.com> wrote:

> Have you considered pachyderm instead of git? Admittedly, I’m not
> currently using it, so it’d be an experiment unless someone else on this
> list pipes up with experience. Git does have it’s limitations with large
> static files (hence the creation of LFS), and the nature of versioning
> small changes in parallel to large static files can be problematic.
> Pachyderm was designed for versioning “data" rather than programming code,
> and so may be a better choice with documentation. It does have the problem
> of being a relatively young project. Git on the other hand is very widely
> used with a long-ish history.
> My understanding with pachyderm is the that versioning is underlyingly
> stored as diffs making it more space efficient. This may be more
> appropriate in situations with constrained resources (e.g., remote
> fieldwork). It also has the advantage of (potentially) capturing
> (computational) transformations of data in a way that can be repeated
> should you rollback and make changes. So for instance, if your workflow
> involves transformation between transcript formats, you can repeat the
> transformation after a rollback to fix an error in the primary transcript.
> http://pachyderm.io
> <http://pachyderm.io>
> Then again, as John notes, all members of the team need to have the skills
> to use it. Git at least has some nice GUI tools for working with it, and
> free resources that implement it like GitHub or GitLab.
> Cheers,
> Tom Honeyman
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> On 26 Jul 2017, at 3:10 am, Hugh Paterson <hugh_paterson at sil.org> wrote:
> Has anyone used git to manage files while doing language documentation?
> Perhaps using git's LFS feature. We have a lot of files moving across a
> network of computers as we acomplish various tasks in various workflows.
> It would be helpful to manage diffs on these files. Annotated tiers in .eaf
> files, praat text grids, etc. Has anyone any pointers on this? Did they use
> one large repo or divide the project into several repos - perhaps based on
> recording sessions. Or has anyone used the git module/ tree feature? One
> advantage of git is the git blame, another is the rollback feature. I am
> hoping to use the git diff feature to check for updated sections of files.
> all the best,
> - Hugh Paterson III
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