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Hi Terry - <br>
Well, I don't mean to imply that the H2 is a piece of junk, as I
certainly don't think it is (although the internal mics are pretty
thin-sounding and are not very useful for multi-speaker recordings
unless you love ambient noise). But all it takes is a pairwise test
with a good self-powered stereo mic to hear the difference (and even
see it on your squeaky-clean spectrogram!). Plus, the H4n is very
sturdily-built (the SD card flap on two of our H2s broke within weeks,
exposing the SD interface to dust, etc.). If you're determined to use
inbuilt mics, I also think that the H4n's capsules are quite a bit
better, and the internal gain is a bit better as well. If neither a
couple hundred dollars nor about 3 ounces of weight are deal-breakers,
I can't think of a single argument in favour of an H2 versus the H4n!<br>
Cheers<br>
Mark <br>
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On 25/05/2010 16:49, Terry Klokeid wrote:
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<div>The only thing is,</div>
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<div>(a) our team has never had any H2 break. That's 4 H2s that have
held up over about 2 years, and they travel about a fair bit.</div>
<div>(b) we find the sound quality excellent</div>
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<div>(c) we use the built-in mikes, not plugins.</div>
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<div>Consideration (b) concerns me. We find the sound quality
excellent - is that due to the fact that our ears are all over 60 years
old? Some being in the 75-80 year old range. Do younger ears hear
differences in speech sound quality that escape us?</div>
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<div>I could go buy an H4n tomorrow, as I'll be visiting the Big City
(as we call it), but I do need to be convinced.</div>
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is cheaply made and prone to breaking (b)
has terrible inbuilt mics and (c) only has a 3.5mm input, hence
requiring either an XLR->3.5mm adaptor or willingness to settle on a
substandard mic. For the additional money, the H4n performs *much*
better on all of these fronts. I still use H2s as emergency backups,
and they are certainly nice and lightweight/small, but the H4n really
does produce far, far better recordings!<br>
Mark<br>
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type="cite">On this list, I discern an
avoidance of the Zoom H2, which can be purchased for less than half
what the H4 costs. Can someone please explain what reasons there are
for not using the H2. Our language team uses H2s and we are happy with
the gadget. Are we missing something?
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<div style="word-wrap: break-word;">Coordinator, Nuu-chah-nulth
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The Cairns Institute
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