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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:navy'>Hi there,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:navy'>I responded privately to Margaret last week but I thought I should give the Zooms another vote publicly!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:navy'><br>I can’t recommend Zoom recorders highly enough. The H4N in particular is a very good device and —as someone said earlier—it has XLR external mic connectors. The H1s are nowhere near as sturdy or flexible but they are very reliable and easy to use. We bought a bunch of them specifically for a community oral history project last year. Most of the people doing the interviews were older and they had never used audio recorders before. There were no probs with the H1s – the built-in x/y condenser mics do a great job with a minimum of fuss. The only suggestion I can make is: don’t monitor the whole recording because the H1 is very light and has a fairly flimsy 3.5 headphone jack – if you have headphones plugged in you will inevitably end up with movement noise. We told our interviewers to do a test recording with headphones only. Also, the tripod in the accessory pack is also very lightweight – it is a good idea to put a jumper or some thick cloth under it. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:navy'>The Zoom H1, unlike the Olympus, can record up to 24 bit 96 kHz wav.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:navy'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:navy'>Marisa Harris</span><span lang=EN-GB style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:gray'>Manager, Audio Unit</span><span lang=EN-GB style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:gray'>Audiovisual Archive</span><span lang=EN-GB style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:gray'>Ph: +61 2 6261 4206 | Fax: +61 2 6261 4282 | <a href="http://www.aiatsis.gov.au/">www.aiatsis.gov.au</a></span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:silver'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Daryn McKenny [mailto:daryn@acra.org.au] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 2 April 2013 11:06 AM<br><b>To:</b> r-n-l-d@lists.unimelb.edu.au; Margaret Carew<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RNLD] basic audio recording gear<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Margaret,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>H1's are now down to $109, that price is hard to beat, you can get a small handy tripod to eliminate the handling noise which any low priced unit can get, or better still you can buy the Zoom H1 with Accessory pack at $119 which includes Tripod, case, wind sock, usb charger with cable and mic adaptor.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://www.musoscorner.com.au/site/index.cfm?prodname=Zoom-H1-Portable-Digital-Recorder---FREE-Accessory-Pack&module=STORETIGERV2&pageMode=indiv&productID=202667&storepid=6#description">http://www.musoscorner.com.au/site/index.cfm?prodname=Zoom-H1-Portable-Digital-Recorder---FREE-Accessory-Pack&module=STORETIGERV2&pageMode=indiv&productID=202667&storepid=6#description</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>That’s pretty hard to beat for price, accessories and features.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Regards</span></b></span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br></span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1E487C'><br></span><span class=apple-style-span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Daryn</span></b></span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br></span></b><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#BEBEBE'><br></span></b><span class=apple-style-span><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#BEBEBE'>Arwarbukarl Cultural Resource Association Inc. 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Any person not named in these boxes in receipt of this email should immediately delete this email and advise the sender accordingly.</span></i></span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Margaret Carew <<a href="mailto:margaret.carew@batchelor.edu.au">margaret.carew@batchelor.edu.au</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Friday, 29 March 2013 10:25 AM<br><b>To: </b>Laura Robinson <<a href="mailto:lrobinson@linguistics.ucsb.edu">lrobinson@linguistics.ucsb.edu</a>>, "<a href="mailto:r-n-l-d@lists.unimelb.edu.au">r-n-l-d@lists.unimelb.edu.au</a>" <<a href="mailto:r-n-l-d@lists.unimelb.edu.au">r-n-l-d@lists.unimelb.edu.au</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [RNLD] basic audio recording gear<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Hi<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>You're right about that Laura, I guess I meant to say more specifically that providing phones to use as recorders is tricky because of a range of reasons. I wouldn't want to be didactic about how devices are used and Im not overlooking the nuances of interaction and personal responsibility involved in providing project equipment for independent use. This is why Im trying to strike the right balance between quality and budget!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Perhaps 'quarantine' has the wrong connotations, bad word choice on the fly<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Cheers Margaret <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>On 29/03/2013, at 4:35 AM, "Laura Robinson" <<a href="mailto:lrobinson@linguistics.ucsb.edu">lrobinson@linguistics.ucsb.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #B5C4DF 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm' id="MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE"><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Margaret,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>To follow up on the idea of audio recorders being "quarantined":<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>"So I'm looking to introduce devices that only record audio, because<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>these are quarantined in a sense, less likely to be used for other<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>things."<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I have found that people have figured out how to turn a dedicated<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>audio recorder (a cheap Olympus device, in this case) into a sort of<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>mp3 player, simply by recording (non-traditional) music and then<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>playing it back over the built-in speaker. There may be no device that<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>is quarantined in the sense you are looking for if the users are<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>clever with technology.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Laura<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Laura C. Robinson<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Visiting Assistant Professor<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Department of Linguistics<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>University of California, Santa Barbara<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Anna Luisa Daigneault<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><<a href="mailto:annaluisa@livingtongues.org">annaluisa@livingtongues.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #B5C4DF 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm' id="MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE"><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Just to respond about Olympus recorders, our team been using Olympus LS-10<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>and Olympus LS-10s digital audio recorders for the past 5 years and they are<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>the best recorders we have been able to find (we have tried many many<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>different brands and models). The price has come down, and now they are $179<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>USD, which is still expensive but they last a long time, are produce very<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>high-quality industry-standard recordings, better than most phones. Easy to<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>use, excellent microphone, perfect for hand-held use or on a tripod, and the<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>devices are good for rugged environments. I can't recommend them more!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=887058&is=REG&Q=&A=details">http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=887058&is=REG&Q=&A=details</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Anna Luisa<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Anna Luisa Daigneault, M.Sc<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Development Officer & Latin America Projects Coordinator<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Enduring Voices Project | Voces Duraderas<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Living Tongues Institute for Endangered Languages<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Twitter: @livingtongues<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Archivo Digital de la Memoria Yanesha | Arr Añño'tena Poeñotenaxhno Yanesha<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://www.yanesha.com">www.yanesha.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Paul Trilsbeek <<a href="mailto:Paul.Trilsbeek@mpi.nl">Paul.Trilsbeek@mpi.nl</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #B5C4DF 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm' id="MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE"><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Hello all,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Generally I would advise strongly against buying a dictation device or<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>"voice recorder", even though this particular Olympus WS-812 model does<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>record uncompressed 16 bit 44.1 kHz audio. Olympus do have a range of very<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>decent and durable audio recorders, the LS series:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://www.olympus.co.uk/site/en/a/audio_systems/audio_recording/fields_of_interest/high_end_music_recording/index.html">http://www.olympus.co.uk/site/en/a/audio_systems/audio_recording/fields_of_interest/high_end_music_recording/index.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I'm not sure how much they cost in Australia at this point but the<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>simplest models are not that expensive. We have a large number of the LS-10<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>model (now discontinued) at MPI and they have proven to be reliable in the<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>field and make good quality recordings.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>We also have a few Zoom H4n recorders, they can also be recommended but<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>are indeed more expensive and a bit heavier. They do accommodate the<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>professional style XLR connectors as Steffen mentioned.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>This particular website compares (and sells) various compact audio<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>recorders (as well as dictation devices / voice recorders, so you should<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>ignore those!). They've made recordings with several different devices at<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>the same time so you can directly compare their recording quality. The site<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>is in German but with the help of Google Translate I guess you can make some<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>sense of it:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://www.audiotranskription.de">http://www.audiotranskription.de</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>On Mar 28, 2013, at 9:59 , 3/28/13, Steffen Haurholm-Larsen<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><<a href="mailto:shaurholml@gmail.com">shaurholml@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #B5C4DF 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm' id="MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE"><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Hi Margaret,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I am not familiar with the Olympus products other than to say that I<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>have never heard language documentation experts / organizations recommend<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>them, whereas with the Zoom h4n and h1 I have. Personally I have good<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>experience with the h4n but as I understand it is both above your budget<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>range and in addition relatively heavy compared to the weight of both Zoom<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>h1 and what I imagine for the Olympus. On of the major differences between<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>the small ones you are talking about and recorders like the h4n is that the<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>latter has xlr-plugs which allows you to connect it to high end external<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>microphones.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>For my next field season I am planning for the following (compromise)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>setup for natural speech recording: Zoom h1 with a headset style dynamic<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>cardioid external microphone: the h1 will fit in virtually anybody's trouser<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>pocket and the headset mic will follow the movement of the mouth as it is<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>attached to the head of the speaker; this guarantees a constant distance<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>from mic to sound source which is a big plus for any recording I think, and<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>it allows the speaker more freedom of movement than a heavier table top<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>setup would Also, the setup is so light weight that it's presence is<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>minimally intrusive. The kind of headset mic you choose will again depend on<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>you budget, but you should go for a cardioid mic - a condenser mic would be<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>best but for this kind of setup you will probably have to settle for a<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>dynamic (no external power).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Steffen Haurholm-Larsen<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Doktorand<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Universität Bern, Schweiz<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 3:17 AM, Mat Bettinson <<a href="mailto:mat@plothatching.com">mat@plothatching.com</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Margaret,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>"Providing new phones is also tricky because, they are phones, and get<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>used as such, and this would cycle back into the private domain. So I'm<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>looking to introduce devices that only record audio, because these are<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>quarantined in a sense, less likely to be used for other things."<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>This is a valuable insight, thanks for that. We have been looking at<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>providing new phones. Without SIM cards, so they don't really do anything<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>else *. That said, the general point about dedicated recorders being<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>"quarantined", virtually symbolic of the programme they are used for, is<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>certainly well taken. Food for thought.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>* There is some interest from researchers in using connected phones (Eg.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>with SIM cards) to record dialogue between people located remotely. Seems<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>questionable ethics wise to me but I may be missing a trick.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>On 28 March 2013 12:53, Margaret Carew <<a href="mailto:margaret.carew@batchelor.edu.au">margaret.carew@batchelor.edu.au</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Hi<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>This is really interesting – the BOLD website that I am familiar with<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>is a bit old now, so I wasn't up to date with these developments.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I know people who use their own phones to record for their own purposes,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>especially at ceremonies . What we are trying to do is extend this practice,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>and to introduce the notion of 'best practice'. This means recording the<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>best quality, recording basic metadata and contributing recordings so that<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>they can be curated and archived (also potentially used for other things<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>such as linguistic analysis and resource development).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Extending the current use of phones by promoting physical add ons such<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>as microphones seems at first glance, a bit tricky. There are a few reasons<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>for this, most related to the complex role that phones play in interpersonal<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>communication (worth its own study). To curate the material means accessing<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>people's private phones which is fraught. Providing new phones is also<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>tricky because, they are phones, and get used as such, and this would cycle<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>back into the private domain. So I'm looking to introduce devices that only<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>record audio, because these are quarantined in a sense, less likely to be<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>used for other things. Part of what we are trying to do is raise the profile<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>of language documentation in North-Central Arnhem Land, a place where there<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>is a lot of local concern about language change, but no language centre and<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>few structured efforts at community based documentation work in recent<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>years. Providing kits identified for language and cultural documentation is<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>one strategy towards this.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Margaret Carew<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Project Linguist<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Desert Peoples Centre, Alice Springs<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Research, Teaching and Learning Division<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Batchelor Institute of Indigenous Tertiary Education<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>tel: 08 8951 8344 | fax: 08 8951 8311<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>email:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="mailto:margaret.carew@batchelor.edu.au">margaret.carew@batchelor.edu.au</a><<a href="mailto:margaret.carew@batchelor.edu.au">mailto:margaret.carew@batchelor.edu.au</a>> |<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>www.batchelor.edu.au<<a href="http://www.batchelor.edu.au/">http://www.batchelor.edu.au/</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>[cid:62C7A520-1D46-4659-809F-6392A5D1A8A5]<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>This email and any files transmitted with it are solely intended for the<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>use of the addressee(s) and may contain information that is confidential and<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>privileged. If you receive this email in error, please advise us by return<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>email immediately. Please also disregard the contents of the email, delete<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>it and destroy any copies immediately.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>From: Mat Bettinson <<a href="mailto:mat@plothatching.com">mat@plothatching.com</a><<a href="mailto:mat@plothatching.com%3e">mailto:mat@plothatching.com></a>><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 12:27:35 +1100<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>To: staff BIITE<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><<a href="mailto:margaret.carew@batchelor.edu.au">margaret.carew@batchelor.edu.au</a><<a href="mailto:margaret.carew@batchelor.edu.au%3e">mailto:margaret.carew@batchelor.edu.au></a>><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Cc: "<a href="mailto:r-n-l-d@lists.unimelb.edu.au">r-n-l-d@lists.unimelb.edu.au</a><<a href="mailto:r-n-l-d@lists.unimelb.edu.au%3e">mailto:r-n-l-d@lists.unimelb.edu.au></a>"<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><<a href="mailto:r-n-l-d@lists.unimelb.edu.au">r-n-l-d@lists.unimelb.edu.au</a><<a href="mailto:r-n-l-d@lists.unimelb.edu.au%3e">mailto:r-n-l-d@lists.unimelb.edu.au></a>><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Subject: Re: [RNLD] basic audio recording gear<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Margaret,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I can't recommend a cheap digital recorder of the type you mention,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>other than suggesting a different class of device, particularly since you<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>mentioned BOLD:PNG.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>As you may or may not know, BOLD:PNG moved on to using inexpensive<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>mobile phones and a custom Android application. 'Moved on' perhaps unfairly<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>suggests an upgrade with no drawbacks but that's probably not the case.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Steven Bird and Florian Hanke are on the pointy end of the project and may<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>correct this categorisation.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Using mobiles seems to be an excellent way to record certain genres such<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>as narratives but clearly aren't as suitable for having a third person<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>record dialogue between other interlocutors. Well, one can do that with a<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>phone too but it requires using an external microphone and interfacing<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>decent microphones to mobile phones is not exactly common.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I've been trying out add-on microphones to mixed success. There's no<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>technical impediment. Last year I rigged up a Sure SM57 microphone to an<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Android smartphone with excellent results. I've yet to try it on a<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>directional boom-style condenser microphone. I did get poor results with one<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>or two models of super cheap Android phones but great results with a Huawei<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>U8150, about $70 delivered on ebay.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I would be interested to hear your thoughts on this. Do you think,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>assuming the quality is up to scratch, that using phones with and without<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>add-on microphones would be suitable for your work?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Having some visibility on concerns and requirements in this regard would<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>be quite helpful in my research. I'd also like to make some recordings<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>available to back up claims about recording quality.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Additionally, mobile phones running interactive applications obviously<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>provide considerable other benefits. Not the least automatic recording of<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>meta data, synching of recordings wirelessly and of course the whole<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>re-speaking aspect of BOLD as implemented in Bird&Hanke's Aikuma application<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>(which is on Google Play right now).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I hope I haven't overstepped with this. I'm sure someone else will come<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>up with a more practical here and now suggestion.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>On 28 March 2013 11:22, Margaret Carew<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><<a href="mailto:margaret.carew@batchelor.edu.au">margaret.carew@batchelor.edu.au</a><<a href="mailto:margaret.carew@batchelor.edu.au%3e">mailto:margaret.carew@batchelor.edu.au></a>><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Hi<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I'm looking to buy a number of audio recorders for a project, working to<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>a similar concept to BOLD:PNG<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://www.boldpng.info/">http://www.boldpng.info/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>The idea being that the recorders are provided to a few key people who<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>then record independently, and recordings are fed back into the central<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>project for curation (by me working with the team).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Budget is limited, and the cheaper the unit, the more we can buy. so I'm<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>looking at either Olympus WS-812 or the Zoom H-1, both priced under AUD$150.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Does anyone have any thoughts? I'm concerned the zoom unit might be<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>flimsy.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Margaret Carew<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Project Linguist<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Desert Peoples Centre, Alice Springs<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Research, Teaching and Learning Division<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Batchelor Institute of Indigenous Tertiary Education<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>tel: 08 8951 8344 | fax: 08 8951 8311<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>email:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="mailto:margaret.carew@batchelor.edu.au">margaret.carew@batchelor.edu.au</a><<a href="mailto:margaret.carew@batchelor.edu.au%3e%3cmailto:margaret.carew@batchelor.edu.au%3cmailto:margaret.carew@batchelor.edu.au%3e">mailto:margaret.carew@batchelor.edu.au><mailto:margaret.carew@batchelor.edu.au<mailto:margaret.carew@batchelor.edu.au></a>><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>|<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>www.batchelor.edu.au<<a href="http://www.batchelor.edu.au%3e%3chttp:/www.batchelor.edu.au/">http://www.batchelor.edu.au><http://www.batchelor.edu.au/</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>[cid:62C7A520-1D46-4659-809F-6392A5D1A8A5]<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>This email and any files transmitted with it are solely intended for the<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>use of the addressee(s) and may contain information that is confidential and<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>privileged. 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