<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Susan Hanson</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:susanhanson@y7mail.com">susanhanson@y7mail.com</a>></span><br>Date: 20 February 2015 at 16:09<br>Subject: Re: [RNLD] dictionary methods<br>To: Nick Thieberger <<a href="mailto:thien@unimelb.edu.au">thien@unimelb.edu.au</a>>, Bill Poser <<a href="mailto:billposer2@gmail.com">billposer2@gmail.com</a>><br><br><br>Hi Nick,<br>
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Two things that work for me:<br>
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1. I use a process I call 'shades of meaning'. I take an existing word in the dictionary and ask open questions about that word. I use an A3 piece of paper and write the word in the middle of the page with a circle around it. Then we do a semantic map related to the word mapping out the shades of meaning and semantic connections with lines. I have found speakers get what I'm doing after a while and love to look back through the sheets and add words. I leave a copy of the sheet with them overnight and they use a different coloured pen to add words as they think of them.<br>
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For example, the word 'dog' has resulted in masses of words and phrases such as big, mangy, skinny, bark, whine, scratch, yelp, flea, lying under the bed, jumping, scratching etc<br>
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One of the old ladies I work with on Tjupan language loves doing them as she sees the sheets as a big word game and it really stimulates her thinking.<br>
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2. Semantic domain stimulus pictures: I have a flip folder for each semantic domain and add pictures from magazines, internet drawings etc as I find them. Then the speakers and I look through and this helps stimulate their thinking about a particular domain.<br>
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3. What's the same and what's different: I have a set of 60 cards with all sorts of pictures on them. We shuffle the deck and choose two cards at random. Placing them face up, we discuss what's the same and what's different between the two pictures. Results in complex sentences as people have to explain their thoughts. They may explain physical similarities through to more abstract relationships. Also usually results in a lot more laughing as the explanations get wild and wacky. Then put the cards back and shuffle again.<br>
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4. Morphed pictures: A student who work-shadowed me had a series of pictures which were of morphed animals. So a kangaroo with a sheep's head, a car with horses legs etc. He asked what people would call the being in the picture and this resulted in lots of discussion about features and good complex sentences.<br>
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Kind regards<br>
Sue Hanson<br>
044891 7437<br>
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On Fri, 20/2/15, Bill Poser <<a href="mailto:billposer2@gmail.com">billposer2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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Subject: Re: [RNLD] dictionary methods<br>
To: "Nick Thieberger" <<a href="mailto:thien@unimelb.edu.au">thien@unimelb.edu.au</a>><br>
Cc: "<a href="mailto:r-n-l-d@lists.unimelb.edu.au">r-n-l-d@lists.unimelb.edu.au</a>" <<a href="mailto:r-n-l-d@lists.unimelb.edu.au">r-n-l-d@lists.unimelb.edu.au</a>><br>
Received: Friday, 20 February, 2015, 11:16 AM<br>
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I wrote a program<br>
a while back for generating possible words:<br>
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<a href="http://billposer.org/Software/WordGenerator.html" target="_blank">http://billposer.org/Software/WordGenerator.html</a><br>
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As for methods of<br>
finding new words, presumably everybody knows: (a) collect<br>
texts and search them for words you don't already have;<br>
(b) if the existing dictionary has example sentences, search<br>
them for words not already entered as headwords.<br>
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On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at<br>
7:08 PM, Nick Thieberger <<a href="mailto:thien@unimelb.edu.au">thien@unimelb.edu.au</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
Hi RNLD list,<br>
I'm going to be working with<br>
speakers to add words to an existing dictionary of some<br>
2,800 headwords. I'd be interested to hear of methods<br>
for finding new words that are not in the dictionary that<br>
you may have found useful. I know about Rapid Words<br>
collection (<a href="http://www.rapidwords.net/" target="_blank">http://www.rapidwords.net/</a>)<br>
and Ron Moe's Dictionary Development<br>
Process. <br>
I'd<br>
also like to generate a list of all possible words given the<br>
phonotactics and phonemic inventory, does anyone know of any<br>
existing systems for doing that?<br>
I'l summarise responses if you<br>
want to write to me off-list.<br>
Thanks,<br>
Nick<br>
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