<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Peter Austin</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pa2@soas.ac.uk">pa2@soas.ac.uk</a>></span><br>Date: 21 February 2015 at 15:57<br>Subject: Re: [RNLD] dictionary methods<br>To: Matthew Dryer <<a href="mailto:dryer@buffalo.edu">dryer@buffalo.edu</a>><br>Cc: "<a href="mailto:r-n-l-d@lists.unimelb.edu.au">r-n-l-d@lists.unimelb.edu.au</a>" <<a href="mailto:r-n-l-d@lists.unimelb.edu.au">r-n-l-d@lists.unimelb.edu.au</a>><br><br><br><div dir="ltr">The classic paper on this dates from 1967 by Casagrande and Hale -- available at <a href="http://compbio.ucdenver.edu/Hunter_lab/Cohen/FieldMethods/Casagrande_Hale_1967.pdf" target="_blank">http://compbio.ucdenver.edu/Hunter_lab/Cohen/FieldMethods/Casagrande_Hale_1967.pdf</a><div><br></div><div>Peter Austin</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 21 February 2015 at 12:30, Matthew Dryer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dryer@buffalo.edu" target="_blank">dryer@buffalo.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <div>I have used monolingual defining, but
      another similar method I have used is to ask a speaker to make up
      a sentence using a given word.  I have been surprised that these
      sentences sometimes reveal new vocabulary at a faster rate than
      texts, and often vocabulary that one might not expect to find in
      texts.  It does depend on the speaker, however.  Some speakers
      only come up with very simple sentences.<br>
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      On 2/20/15 12:39 AM, Hugh Paterson wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Becky Paterson has a presentation next week in
        Hawaii about gamification applied to Rapid words methodologies.
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        <div>- Hugh</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:07 PM, Peter
          Austin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pa2@soas.ac.uk" target="_blank">pa2@soas.ac.uk</a>></span>
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            <div dir="ltr">WeSay is a nice implementation of Moe's
              method that can be used by literate native speakers -- it
              also enables audio recording of words and example
              sentences.
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              <div>Monolingual defining was a method much favoured by
                the late Ken Hale as a way to generate more vocabulary
                and has been used by successfully by several people I
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              <div>Peter</div>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On 20 February 2015 at 12:08,
                    Nick Thieberger <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:thien@unimelb.edu.au" target="_blank">thien@unimelb.edu.au</a>></span>
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                      <div dir="ltr">Hi RNLD list,
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                        <div>I'm going to be working with speakers to
                          add words to an existing dictionary of some
                          2,800 headwords. I'd be interested to hear of
                          methods for finding new words that are not in
                          the dictionary that you may have found useful.
                          I know about Rapid Words collection (<a href="http://www.rapidwords.net/" target="_blank">http://www.rapidwords.net/</a>)
                          and Ron Moe's Dictionary Development Process. </div>
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                        <div>I'd also like to generate a list of all
                          possible words given the phonotactics and
                          phonemic inventory, does anyone know of any
                          existing systems for doing that?</div>
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                        <div>I'l summarise responses if you want to
                          write to me off-list.</div>
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                        <div>Thanks,</div>
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                        <div>Nick</div>
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                        <div dir="ltr">Prof Peter K. Austin
                          <div>Marit Rausing Chair in Field Linguistics</div>
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