<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Hello Felicity,<br><br></div>just my quick 50 cents worth. I would not worry so much about the preamps in the Edirol-r26 or the Zoom H6 unless you need to record a lot of music and want to avoid distortion owing to the mic signal overloading the preamps (which results in distortion even though the recording level does not exceed 0dB). But in terms of noise generation the Edirol might even have a little less. In the end you would need to test it with the mics you are using. The edirol has a good preamp for this type of recorder, imo. If you need really good preamps and only do 1 mic (for stereo) or 2 channel recordings, the Marantz PMD661 has the pest preamps of them all (It is also more expensive). If you need the 4 xlr channels of the H6 because you record a lot of conversation or some such <b>and</b> you need good preamps because you want to do broadcast quality type recordings with film you would need a separate preamp anyways. For this you need recorders that have inputs with low line in type capabilities (I think both the r-26 as well as the h6 have that). But here you open a whole different can of worms and recording skills. In the end it all depends on what you want to do. It is hard to give generic advice when one doesn't know what recording situations are going to be targeted, but I hope this helps.<br><br></div>Best,<br><br></div>Frank<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Grant Aiton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:aiton.grant@gmail.com" target="_blank">aiton.grant@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">There is also a direct XLR connector that wouldn't need the adapter referenced by Julia (it attaches directly to the Rode micon cable): micon to xlr <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?N=10730909&InitialSearch=yes&sts=pi" target="_blank">http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?N=10730909&InitialSearch=yes&sts=pi</a><br><div><br></div><div>This works with the Rode lavalier mics and the HS1 headset for sure, and likely other Rode mics. I have been using the Zoom H4n recorder with external microphones to very good results. I am using the Rode headset mostly (HS1), with the Rode lavalier as a more portable backup. I would be very interested to hear whether there are any advantages to the Zoom H5 or H6 compared to the H4. I always thought the extra features of the H5 and H6 would be a bit excessive or unnecessary for linguistic fieldwork.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Grant</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><br>--<br><br>Grant Aiton, MSc<div><font size="1">PhD </font><span style="font-family:arial;font-size:x-small">Candidate</span><font size="1"><br></font><div><font size="1"><span style="font-family:Tahoma">The Cairns Institute, </span>Language and Culture Research Centre</font><div><font size="1"><span style="font-family:Tahoma">Building D3, James Cook University</span><br style="font-family:Tahoma"><span style="font-family:Tahoma">PO BOX 6811, CAIRNS, QLD 4870, Australia</span><br style="font-family:Tahoma">Email: <a href="mailto:grant.aiton@my.jcu.edu.au" target="_blank">grant.aiton@my.jcu.edu.au</a></font></div><div><font size="1">Web: <a href="http://www.jcu.edu.au/lcrc" target="_blank">www.jcu.edu.au/lcrc</a></font></div><div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div class="h5">
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Julia Colleen Miller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:julia.miller@anu.edu.au" target="_blank">julia.miller@anu.edu.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">RE: Zooms- Yes! We’ve just been using the H5, not upgrading to the H6 quite yet, but mostly because we have not been recording much
music or singing here and the H5 model has been really quite exceptional for speech (well, yes, some singing, birdsong collection, as well as phonetic analyses).
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Was worried about a bigger power drain in the H6 due to the new improved colour viewer. And battery power is an issue in PNG. Probably
less so for you mob working in less-remote spots in Australia. The specs say 20 hours of continuous recording, though I am a bit suspicious of this, as their previous model would not record more than 4 or 5 hours, though this was in extreme heat/humidity conditions
and usually with phantom power turned on for external head-mounted mics.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/387850-REG/Rode_VXLR_VXLR_Mono_Mini_Jack.html" target="_blank">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">We have been using the Sennheiser 100 G3 wireless set up which has been really great. The XLR connector is the configuration we use
most for the Zooms and Canon video cameras (like the XA20), but with the smaller handicams, the mini connector works fine, too.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I might purchase a Rode for the Centre and test it out. A locally-made, less expensive option is always a good thing… if the quality
and interoperability is similar. Same goes for the H6. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>To:</b> r-n-l-d <<a href="mailto:r-n-l-d@unimelb.edu.au" target="_blank">r-n-l-d@unimelb.edu.au</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [RNLD] Field equipment<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Edirol R-26 (+ higher end models) </span><a href="http://proav.roland.com/products/proav_r-26" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">http://proav.roland.com/products/proav_r-26</span></a><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">/<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black">
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