<div><div dir="auto">Hi Hugh,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Some video cameras have poor internal mics and some mics you can attach arent great either. That is, they pick up too much noise or other sound to get clear recording of speech. The zoom q8 is nice because it is basically a zoom audio recorder + a video recorder. It isn’t a high end video camera. but for most language work, you don’t need a professional video camera.</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Nick</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 12:33 AM Hugh Paterson <<a href="mailto:hugh_paterson@sil.org">hugh_paterson@sil.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Nick Williams,<div><br></div><div>I'm just wondering, what would be the attributes of "bad" audio be? I'm never read a technology review of a "bad" piece of equipment in LD&C.</div><div><br></div><div>all the best,</div><div>- Hugh</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 7:54 PM, nick williams <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:n.jay.williams@gmail.com" target="_blank">n.jay.williams@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir="auto">Zoom Q8 with a shotgun microphone (if you can buy fewer units and share or up your budget slightly). you might be able to get a used one for under $300. i know it is a bit over your budget, but they are very good and video is the way to go unless people are for some reason uncomfortable with video. the audio is quite good too. it has xlr inputs as well and possibility of four channels total. </div></div><div class="m_-8471172430179860598HOEnZb"><div class="m_-8471172430179860598h5"><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 8:17 PM Steven Bird <<a href="mailto:stevenbird1@gmail.com" target="_blank">stevenbird1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Heather,<div><br></div><div>Plenty of voice recorders support uncompressed recording. I've been using Smart Recorder, Parrot, and Hi-Q, all of which record in RIFF (=wav) format. The first two also support sample rate selection, and I choose 16kHz 16 bit mono.</div><div><br></div><div>That's 32kB/s or ~0.1GB/h. For A$40 you can fit out your phone with a 64GB micro SD card and record for ~600 hours.</div><div><br></div><div>-Steven</div><div><br></div><div><div>--</div><div><span class="m_-8471172430179860598m_-6311349045910651017m_-7597522472648481950gmail-il">Steven</span> <span class="m_-8471172430179860598m_-6311349045910651017m_-7597522472648481950gmail-il">Bird</span> <a href="http://stevenbird.net/" target="_blank">http://stevenbird.net</a></div><div>Professor, College of Indigenous Futures, Arts and Society, <span class="m_-8471172430179860598m_-6311349045910651017m_-7597522472648481950gmail-il">Charles</span> <span class="m_-8471172430179860598m_-6311349045910651017m_-7597522472648481950gmail-il">Darwin</span> <span class="m_-8471172430179860598m_-6311349045910651017m_-7597522472648481950gmail-il">University</span></div><div>Linguist, <span class="m_-8471172430179860598m_-6311349045910651017m_-7597522472648481950gmail-il">Nawarddeken</span> Academy, Kabulwarnamyo Community, Northern Territory<br></div><div>Research Scientist, International Computer Science Institute, <span class="m_-8471172430179860598m_-6311349045910651017m_-7597522472648481950gmail-il">University</span> of California <span class="m_-8471172430179860598m_-6311349045910651017m_-7597522472648481950gmail-il">Berkeley</span></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 at 21:10, Julia Sallabank <<a href="mailto:js72@soas.ac.uk" target="_blank">js72@soas.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Dear Heather</div><div><br></div><div>I've used the Zoom H2N with community members, together with very simplified instructions, but they still had problems with it. The easiest thing would be to use the record or video function on mobile phones. I know there are other communities using mobile phones for language documentation, and phones also have the advantage of being familiar and thus intruding less on the conversation. I know that the recording quality is mp3 not .wav, but for language learning and MAP purposes that should not be a problem. I would also recommend not recording at all for the first meetings, to put people at their ease.</div><div><br></div><div>Good luck!</div><div><br></div><div>Julia<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 18 August 2018 at 23:38, Heather souter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hsouter@gmail.com" target="_blank">hsouter@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Taanshi! Hello!<br>
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Heather Souter d-ishinikaashon. En Michif Camperville, Manitoba, Canada oschi niya. Daweeyiteen lii zavii. Mahti wiichihin...<br>
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My name is Heather Souter. I am a Michif from Camperville, Manitoba, Canada. I need some advice. Please help...<br>
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Looking for some collective wisdom here. I need a range of ideas for the lowest tech to the highest (and a few in between?!) recording devices to use with a group of community-based Indigenous language learners of widely ranging digital skill levels? The budget is CA$ 160..?<br>
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Zoom H1 and Zoom H1n have been suggested. Any other suggestions on the lower and slightly higher tech sides? Something my non-tech savy elderly auntie could use and then maybe something with a XLR input?<br>
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It is for an upcoming MAP pilot project..<br>
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Kihchi-marsii. Thank- you!<br>
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Eekoshi pitamaa. That’s it for now.<br>
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