<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi all,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">A Dutch tech website that I follow recently did a comparison of a few 360 degree cameras. The article is in Dutch but with the help of Google Translate, those who do not read Dutch can probably still get some useful information out of it:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Original article: <a href="https://tweakers.net/reviews/7254/vier-4k-360-gradencameras-de-cameras-waaraan-niets-ontsnapt.html" class="">https://tweakers.net/reviews/7254/vier-4k-360-gradencameras-de-cameras-waaraan-niets-ontsnapt.html</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Google Translate:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=nl&tl=en&u=https://tweakers.net/reviews/7254/vier-4k-360-gradencameras-de-cameras-waaraan-niets-ontsnapt.html" class="">https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=nl&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Ftweakers.net%2Freviews%2F7254%2Fvier-4k-360-gradencameras-de-cameras-waaraan-niets-ontsnapt.html</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Also on that site they reported that GoPro is likely going to release a new model soon, as a successor to the Fusion model that they used in the comparison:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://tweakers.net/nieuws/157324/fotos-tonen-nieuwe-360-gradencamera-van-gopro.html" class="">https://tweakers.net/nieuws/157324/fotos-tonen-nieuwe-360-gradencamera-van-gopro.html</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Paul</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class="">
<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 15 Sep 2019, at 16:55, Randy J. LaPolla <<a href="mailto:randy.lapolla@gmail.com" class="">randy.lapolla@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi All,<div class="">I asked some colleagues of mine who have been using 360 degree cameras for Conversational Analysis. They mentioned that <span style="caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: -apple-system, HelveticaNeue;" class="">their audio recording is not that great, and they do have an issue with fish-eye vision when played on VLC. They also mentioned that the bhp one mentioned in this thread is too cumbersome to use.</span></div><div class=""><font color="#333333" face="-apple-system, HelveticaNeue" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=""><br class=""></span></font></div><div class=""><font color="#333333" face="-apple-system, HelveticaNeue" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class="">Randy<br class=""></span></font><div class="">
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LaPolla, PhD FAHA</b> (羅</span><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); background-color: white; font-size: 13px;" class=""><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Song">仁地</font></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34); background-color: white;" class="">)</span></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><span style="background-color: white;" class=""><font color="#222222" face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2" class="">Professor of Linguistics, with courtesy appointment in Chinese, School of Humanities </font></span></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13.333333015441895px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">Nanyang Technological University</span></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class=""><span style="background-color: white;" class="">HSS-03-45, 48 Nanyang Avenue </span></span></span><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13.333333015441895px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: -webkit-auto;" class="">| </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class=""><span style="background-color: white;" class="">Singapore 639818</span></span></span></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><span style="text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: white; color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class=""><a href="http://randylapolla.net/" class="">http://randylapolla.net/</a></span></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class=""><span style="background-color: white;" class="">Most recent books:</span></span></span></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class=""><span style="background-color: white;" class=""><i class="">The Sino-Tibetan Languages, 2nd Edition (</i>2017)</span></span></span></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><span style="background-color: white;" class=""><font color="#222222" face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2" class=""><a href="https://www.routledge.com/The-Sino-Tibetan-Languages-2nd-Edition/LaPolla-Thurgood/p/book/9781138783324" class="">https://www.routledge.com/The-Sino-Tibetan-Languages-2nd-Edition/LaPolla-Thurgood/p/book/9781138783324</a></font></span></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><span style="background-color: white;" class=""><font color="#222222" face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2" class=""><i class="">Sino-Tibetan Linguistics </i>(2018)</font></span></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><span class="" style="background-color: white;"><font color="#222222" face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2" class=""><a href="https://www.routledge.com/Sino-Tibetan-Linguistics/LaPolla/p/book/9780415577397" class="" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);">https://www.routledge.com/Sino-Tibetan-Linguistics/LaPolla/p/book/9780415577397</a></font></span></div><div class=""><span class="" style="background-color: white;"><br class=""></span></div></div></div></span></span></div></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
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<div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 14 Sep 2019, at 3:54 AM, Bradley McDonnell <<a href="mailto:mcdonn@hawaii.edu" class="">mcdonn@hawaii.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Dear all, <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In case anyone is interested in using 360 video cameras, I received a very informative response from Mark Sicoli. I have included it below with his permission. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks to Lise Dobrin for forwarding my message to him!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Brad</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 12:17 AM Sicoli, Mark A (mas8ad) <<a href="mailto:mas8ad@virginia.edu" target="_blank" class="">mas8ad@virginia.edu</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" class=""><div class="gmail-m_7646050397789306051gmail-m_8325612511646554891WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class="">Hi Brad,<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class="">This was forwarded to me by my colleague Lise Dobrin. I’ve been using 360 cameras for a few years mainly supervising student fieldwork use and exploring the affordances for analysis in my multimodal interaction seminar. I’m currently developing a VR viewing platform that would allow a class (or other group up to 20) to simultaneously view 360 footage through VR headsets for group discussion/workshopping of video from the inside so to speak. It would support subtitling, laser pointing, communication between viewers, and some coding. It will be freely available when it’s done (we’re hoping to be testing this fall and sharing in the spring). Some uses I’m looking forward to are advisor/student meetings where we can work with fieldwork videos, group data sessions, and participatory methods with community members using immersive playback.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class="">I have not used the camera you linked to, though it looks right for the job both in terms of video and sound. The files are large and the image area large as well so usually HD images don’t seem quite as HD as standard framed video (because distributed over larger space). Though what you are looking at seems as good as things get. I generally recommend that fieldworkers also have a standard framed video camera in their toolkit whether a camcorder or one of a variety of sport cameras and also another point of sound capture in a digital audio recorder. One caution is to check the recording time of the units. Some devices have very short recording times (1/2 hour or less) and others longer so check into that before purchasing to be sure the imagined use matches capability (also another reason to pack a standard video camera as well).<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class="">I do like the way the little orbs of the 360 camera units attract less attention to themselves generally than tripod/camera/mic assemblages. They can of course be set up on tripods, but can also just sit on a table.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class="">More editors are able to work with 360 video to edit and export 360 content in archivable formats, and to convert the video-in-the-round to ELAN friendly formats like rectilinear (unrolled) video. And allow a user to select rectangular framed segments to export as clips or edit a “tour” where one can export rectangular framed video that follows action around the 360 space.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class="">Let me know if you have any questions. All in all I think packing a 360 camera will have positive benefits for language documentation projects and ethnographic research and should become a standard tool in our field kits. The format adds useful affordances especially when paired with VR headset viewing from the POV of the camera affording a better perspective in interparticipant/object relations in the space, tracking eye gaze, deictic gestures, ability to immerse viewers in your field site and to revisit our own fieldsites in a way that would prompt memory and new insights beyond fieldnotes, audio recordings, or standard framed video.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class="">Best wishes,<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class="">Mark Sicoli</span><span style="font-size:11pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica" class="">-- <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica" class="">Dr. Mark A. Sicoli<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica" class="">Assistant Professor<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica" class="">Department of Anthropology<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica" class="">Interdepartmental Program in Linguistics<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica" class="">University of Virginia<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica" class="">Acknowledgement: We at UVa are on land under the traditional custodianship of the Monacan Indian Nation. We honor their elders past and present.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><div class=""><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:x-small" class="">--</span></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:x-small" class="">Bradley McDonnell</span><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><font face="arial, sans-serif" size="1" class="">Assistant Professor, Department of Linguistics, University of Hawai'i at Mānoa</font></div><div class=""><font size="1" class=""><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif" class="">Book Review Edito</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif" class="">r, </span><a href="http://nflrc.hawaii.edu/ldc/" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif" target="_blank" class="">Language Documentation & Conservation</a><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font size="1" class=""><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif" class="">Organizer, </span><a href="http://icldc-hawaii.org/" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif" target="_blank" class="">International Conference on Language Documentation & Conservation 2021</a></font><br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br class=""></div></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 2:01 PM Bradley McDonnell <<a href="mailto:mcdonn@hawaii.edu" class="">mcdonn@hawaii.edu</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="">Dear all, <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I'm interested in buying a 360 video camera, such as <a href="https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1382310-REG/vuze_vuze_4k_3d_360.html" target="_blank" class="">this one</a>, and using it in a documentation project primarily to record conversations, which would of course be transcribed in ELAN. I'm curious about any advice in purchasing one and/or positive/negative experiences using such a camera and processing/archiving its video files. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks, </div><div class="">Brad<br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_2580384049287404306gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:x-small" class="">--</span></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:x-small" class="">Bradley McDonnell</span><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><font face="arial, sans-serif" size="1" class="">Assistant Professor, Department of Linguistics, University of Hawai'i at Mānoa</font></div><div class=""><font size="1" class=""><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif" class="">Book Review Edito</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif" class="">r, </span><a href="http://nflrc.hawaii.edu/ldc/" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif" target="_blank" class="">Language Documentation & Conservation</a><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font size="1" class=""><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif" class="">Organizer, </span><a href="http://icldc-hawaii.org/" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif" target="_blank" class="">International Conference on Language Documentation & Conservation 2021</a></font><br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""></div></div></div>
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