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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dear Amanda,<br>
<br>
I have had problems with these file formats before and have
converted the files for use in ELAN with Adobe Premier (The user
manual will tell you which ones are acceptable. mp4 works well).
I must admit that I still work with an older version of ELAN so
I do not know whether the file formats you mention should now
work.<br>
<br>
Note also the file format info at LAC (Language Archive Cologne)
below.<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lac.uni-koeln.de/docs/submission-guidelines.html">https://lac.uni-koeln.de/docs/submission-guidelines.html</a><br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Christina<br>
<h4>Video Recommendations:</h4>
<p> Video formats used in language research and archiving are in
many ways determined by the limitation of high-level consumer
(“prosumer”) digital cameras. Most modern cameras record video
encoded as h.264 (sometimes indicated as AVC or AVCHD in
camera interfaces). Although propietary, we consider this
encoding currently the most suitable encoding for our purposes
because of its widespread support in software and hardware. </p>
<p> The most common audio encodings in video cameras are LPCM,
AC3, and AAC. From linguistic point of view, LPCM encoding
(often indicated as PCM) is highly preferable and should be
chosen if possible. AAC is a lossy compressed format and is
not suitable for all kinds of analysis. It is however the
preferred option if no PCM audio can be provided. Audio
encoded as AC3 can cause issues in ELAN and Exmeralda on some
platforms and should be re-encoded as AAC before archiving. </p>
<p> The MP4 container specification does not allow LPCM encoded
audio. If your camera can record LPCM audio with h.264 video,
<u><b>we recommed to use the MOV container format. MOV files
can be problematic for video annotation programs such as
ELAN. </b></u><br>
<u><b>The best way to deal with this issue is to produce a
working file with AAC audio and h.264 video in a MP4
container and use this file with ELAN</b></u>. <u><b>For
archiving both the MOV and the MP4 file should be
submitted </b></u>together with the ELAN file. <br>
Having two files for one recording increases the storage
requirements for project work and archiving, but the advantage
of archiving uncompressed audion and video in one container
compensates for the disadvantages. </p>
<p> If your camera can only record compressed audio, we suggest
that you also record uncompressed audion with a dedicated
audio recorder. In case you have no dedicated audio recorde
available and you can only record compressed audio with your
video camera, you might want to derive a WAV file from a lossy
compressed encoded AAC audio track of a video file, this file
– despite its appearance as uncompressed LPCM data – will not
be suitable to some types of analysis. You should indicate the
source format of this file in the metadata to inform future
users of the provenance of this data. </p>
<br>
<table class="table is-bordered is-striped is-narrow
is-hoverable">
<thead> <tr>
<th>Purpose</th>
<th>File format</th>
<th>Video Encoding</th>
<th>encoding options</th>
<th>Video Resolution</th>
<th>Frame rate</th>
<th>Audio Encoding</th>
<th>Sampling Rate</th>
<th>Bit Depth</th>
<th>Bit rate</th>
</tr>
</thead> <tbody>
<tr>
<td><strong>Recording</strong></td>
<td>—</td>
<td>h.264</td>
<td>profile: main, level: 4.0</td>
<td>1080p</td>
<td>30fps</td>
<td>LPCM</td>
<td>48 kHz</td>
<td>16 bit</td>
<td><br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><strong>Archiving</strong></td>
<td>MOV</td>
<td>h.264</td>
<td>profile: main, level: 4.0</td>
<td>1080p</td>
<td>30fps</td>
<td>LPCM</td>
<td>48 kHz</td>
<td>16 bit</td>
<td><br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><br>
</td>
<td>MP4</td>
<td>h.264</td>
<td>profile: main, level: 4.0</td>
<td>1080p</td>
<td>30fps</td>
<td>AAC (LC)</td>
<td>48 kHz</td>
<td><br>
</td>
<td>128-384 kbps</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><br>
</td>
<td><br>
</td>
<td><br>
</td>
<td><br>
</td>
<td><br>
</td>
<td><br>
</td>
<td>(WAV</td>
<td>48 kHz</td>
<td>16 bit)</td>
<td><br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><strong>Working</strong></td>
<td>MP4</td>
<td>h.264</td>
<td>profile: main, level: 4.0</td>
<td>1080p</td>
<td>30fps</td>
<td>AAC (LC)</td>
<td>48 kHz</td>
<td><br>
</td>
<td>128 kbps</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<p> Note: While we recommend a 30fps frame rate, we discourage
any change to the frame rate after recording. Any common frame
rate besides 30 fps – such as 24 fps (e.g. used in NTSC), 25
fps (e.g. used in PAL), as well as higher frame rates – are
acceptable. </p>
<p> Video file formats recommended for film archives such as
uncompressed MXF or lossless JPEG2000 are not recommended for
most digital video recordings as these recordings were
originally recorded in a lossy format (mostly h.264 encoded).
If you are intending to digitize and archive non-digital film,
please contact the <a href="mailto:lac-helpdesk@uni-koeln.de">LAC
helpdesk</a> for further arrangements. <br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
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cite="mid:ME2PR01MB4657B50394C3B507AD16EC6D9B730@ME2PR01MB4657.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"
lang="EN-US">Dear<b>
</b></span>all,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hello! I am trying to transcribe a video
file in ELAN on a PC and am having problems getting it set
up. Could anyone offer advice? Here’s what’s happening:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<ol style="margin-top:0in" type="1" start="1">
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3">The video
files were given to me by another researcher and are
available in two different formats, recorded on two
different devices: a Sony video recorder has produced .mts
video files, while a Zoom has produced .mov video files.
When I try to create a new transcription file with either
one of these types as the media file, though, I get an
error message similar to the one in this screenshot here:</li>
</ol>
<p class="MsoNormal"><img
style="width:7.0166in;height:2.3916in"
id="Picture_x0020_1"
src="cid:part2.95C5474D.DBB3E639@web.de" class=""
width="674" height="230"></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<ol style="margin-top:0in" type="1" start="2">
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3">On page 12
of version 5.9 (2020-03-20) of the ELAN manual, it seems
to say that if your “media framework” can handle a certain
file, ELAN will be able to handle it too.</li>
<ol style="margin-top:0in" type="a" start="1">
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo3">I
started by downloading Quicktime for Windows. The
download worked, and I can now play these files with
Quicktime, but it made no difference to ELAN’s ability
to do so.</li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo3">I then
tried out different “media framework” preferences within
ELAN (Edit
<span style="font-family:Wingdings">à</span> Preferences
<span style="font-family:Wingdings">
à</span> Edit Preferences <span
style="font-family:Wingdings">à</span> Platform/OS):</li>
</ol>
</ol>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:1.0in"><img
style="width:4.75in;height:3.0in" id="Picture_x0020_3"
src="cid:part3.6468C82C.BB0C4E81@web.de" class=""
width="456" height="288"></p>
<ol style="margin-top:0in" type="1" start="2">
<ol style="margin-top:0in" type="a" start="3">
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo3">I tried
both a Sony file and a Zoom file with each of the four
framework options, but no framework could open either
type of file.</li>
</ol>
</ol>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I can open an .mp4 video file in ELAN
easily, so maybe some sort of conversion is the way to go,
if that’s possible…</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Any help will be much appreciated!</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Amanda</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"
lang="EN-US">PhD candidate</span></b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"
lang="EN-US"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"
lang="EN-US">Linguistics | School of Languages and
Cultures</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"
lang="EN-US"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"
lang="EN-US">3rd floor, Gordon Greenwood Building</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"
lang="EN-US"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"
lang="EN-US">University of Queensland</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"
lang="EN-US"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"
lang="EN-US">St. Lucia 4072 AUSTRALIA</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU">ORCiD
ID:
</span><a href="https://orcid.org/0000-0002-0740-9752"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:blue;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU">https://orcid.org/0000-0002-0740-9752</span></a><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"></span></p>
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</b></span>all,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hello! I am trying to transcribe a video
file in ELAN on a PC and am having problems getting it set up.
Could anyone offer advice? Here’s what’s happening:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<ol style="margin-top:0in" type="1" start="1">
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3">The video
files were given to me by another researcher and are
available in two different formats, recorded on two
different devices: a Sony video recorder has produced .mts
video files, while a Zoom has produced .mov video files.
When I try to create a new transcription file with either
one of these types as the media file, though, I get an error
message similar to the one in this screenshot here:<o:p></o:p></li>
</ol>
<p class="MsoNormal"><img style="width:7.0166in;height:2.3916in"
id="Picture_x0020_1"
src="cid:part2.95C5474D.DBB3E639@web.de" class=""
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<ol style="margin-top:0in" type="1" start="2">
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3">On page 12
of version 5.9 (2020-03-20) of the ELAN manual, it seems to
say that if your “media framework” can handle a certain
file, ELAN will be able to handle it too.<o:p></o:p></li>
<ol style="margin-top:0in" type="a" start="1">
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo3">I started
by downloading Quicktime for Windows. The download worked,
and I can now play these files with Quicktime, but it made
no difference to ELAN’s ability to do so.<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo3">I then
tried out different “media framework” preferences within
ELAN (Edit
<span style="font-family:Wingdings">à</span> Preferences <span
style="font-family:Wingdings">
à</span> Edit Preferences <span
style="font-family:Wingdings">à</span> Platform/OS):<o:p></o:p></li>
</ol>
</ol>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:1.0in"><img
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src="cid:part3.6468C82C.BB0C4E81@web.de" class=""
width="456" height="288"><o:p></o:p></p>
<ol style="margin-top:0in" type="1" start="2">
<ol style="margin-top:0in" type="a" start="3">
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo3">I tried
both a Sony file and a Zoom file with each of the four
framework options, but no framework could open either type
of file.<o:p></o:p></li>
</ol>
</ol>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I can open an .mp4 video file in ELAN
easily, so maybe some sort of conversion is the way to go, if
that’s possible…<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Any help will be much appreciated!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Amanda<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"
lang="EN-US">PhD candidate</span></b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"
lang="EN-US">Linguistics | School of Languages and
Cultures</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"
lang="EN-US">3rd floor, Gordon Greenwood Building</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"
lang="EN-US">University of Queensland</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"
lang="EN-US">St. Lucia 4072 AUSTRALIA<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU">ORCiD
ID:
</span><a href="https://orcid.org/0000-0002-0740-9752"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
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English Department I
University of Cologne
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Amnesty International ist eine weltweite, von Regierungen, politischen Parteien,
Ideologien, Wirtschaftsinteressen und Religionen unabhängige Mitgliederorganisation.
Auf Grundlage der Allgemeinen Erklärung der Menschenrechte wendet sich Amnesty
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auf Freiheit von Diskriminierung sowie auf körperliche und geistige Unversehrtheit.</pre>
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