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<p class=MsoPlainText style='line-height:normal'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='line-height:normal'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='line-height:normal'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>I’m sorry I have been silent in this discussion
after I brought up the exclusive/inclusive distinction. I’m not going to
be able to give much time to this, but I thought I’d at least chip in
with my agreement concerning the distinction in RST between relation
definitions and formal realizations. But the same thing could be said to argue
that RST should have two different relation definitions for two different
relations that happen to be expressed with the same form in some languages. To
me, the difference between exclusive disjunction and inclusive disjunction seems
like a fairly significant distinction. However, if we do want to group similar
relations under one definition, I think the proposed definition with the part
about “not necessarily exclusive” in parentheses does a good job of
allowing for inclusive and exclusive disjunction.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='line-height:normal'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='line-height:normal'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>I appreciate the example given that reflects exclusive
disjunction at one level and inclusive disjunction at another:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='line-height:normal'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> (1) A: What d'ya wanna do tonight?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='line-height:normal'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> B: We could go to the
movies or have a quiet evening home.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='line-height:normal'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>I’m sorry I am not able to answer how any
languages that differentiate between inclusive and exclusive disjunction would
mark this. I suspect that if a language doesn’t have a form that can be
used ambiguously for inclusive or exclusive ‘or’ it would not be
able to encode such a double meaning. The reply would either use the inclusive ‘or’
to express the multiple desires that the person has, or the reply would use the
exclusive ‘or’ to express the mutually exclusive possibilities. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='line-height:normal'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='line-height:normal'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>By the way, the only source I was thinking of
concerning a language with different forms for exclusive and inclusive ‘or’
was taken from an article by Ettien Koffi concerning the translation of ‘or’
in African languages. He writes, “Ditammari a language of northern <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Benin</st1:place></st1:country-region>, has
three or-type coordinators; ke and yaa are used only for exclusive
coordination, while yoo is used to link inclusively.”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='line-height:normal'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='line-height:normal'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Ben <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> -----Original Message-----</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> From: RST Discussion List
[mailto:rstlist@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG] On</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Behalf Of Gisela Redeker</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 5:32 AM</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> To: RSTLIST@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Subject: Re: [RST-LIST] Definitions of
Conjunction and Disjunction</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Hi Ben,</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> I see your point, but I think it gets tricky with
presentational</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> disjunctions ("speech act" relations in
Sweetser's (1990) terms) as in B's</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> answer in (1):</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> (1) A: What d'ya wanna do tonight?</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> B: We could go to the
movies or have a quiet evening home.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Here the semantic alternatives ('we could do X'
OR 'we could do Y'), and</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> thus the choices offered to A, are mutually
exclusive, while B is at the</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> same time saying that both options are things she
might want to do tonight</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> ('I'd like doing this AND I'd like doing that').
-- How would cases like</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> this be marked in the languages you are thinking
of?</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Another problem I see with your argument is that
RST has (wisely, I think)</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> stayed away from linking the relation definitions
directly to linguistic</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> realization ('cues', cohesive signals). Like all
coordinating conjunctions</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> (see, e.g. Schiffrin 1987, Redeker 1991), 'or'
(in English) has a wide</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> range</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> to uses and thus does not differentiate between
relations that are very</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> clearly different on other grounds. An example
where 'or' means neither</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> inclusive nor exclusive disjunction are
corrective uses like the</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> afterthought in (2) and the speech act
conditional in (3):</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> (2) We could go to the movies... Or let's just
have a quiet evening home.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> (3) We could go to the movies tonight - or do you
have to work late again?</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> The relation signalled with 'or' in (2) should
probably be analyzed as</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> ANTITHESIS, and in (3) as UNLESS -- both
relations that no one would</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> suggest</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> lumping together with disjunction.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> I don't think the relation
DISJUNCTION is or should be defined by the</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> occurrence or 'or' (or its equivalents in other
languages). On the other</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> hand (as e.g. Knott and Sanders (1998) have
argued for linguistic markers</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> of</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> coherence relations in general) it is presumably
no coincidence that many</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> languages use the same means (conjunction, cue)
for marking inclusive and</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> exclusion disjunctions. As Ben sys in his post,
the two are very similar</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> and</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> speakers may sometimes want to remain vague and
not mark the distinction.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Gisela</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> -----Original Message-----</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> From: RST Discussion List
[mailto:rstlist@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG] On</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Behalf Of Ben & Mandy Pehrson</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Sent: vrijdag 15 september 2006 4:04</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> To: RSTLIST@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Subject: Re: [RST-LIST] Definitions of
Conjunction and Disjunction</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Maite,</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> As far as disjunction is concerned, there is a
difference between</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> exclusive</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> disjunction and inclusive disjunction. Some
languages use different</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> ‘conjunctions’ to mark each type of
disjunction. If the RST definition</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> that</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> is used for disjunction states “An item
presents a (not necessarily</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> exclusive) alternative for the other(s),”
then these two different types</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> of</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> disjuction are lumped into one relation. Perhaps
that’s fine for English</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> since we use ‘or’ to mark both kinds
of disjunction and sometimes it may</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> be</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> ambiguous. But even in English there are ways to
differentiate the</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> relations</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> ‘and/or’ make the intended function
more clear. While I think the</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> definition</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> as it stands is meant to be inclusive of more
than one kind of relation,</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> it</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> could be interpreted to more narrowly define what
we mean by 'and/or' but</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> not the exclusive use of 'or'.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Ben</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> ________________________________________</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> From: RST Discussion List
[mailto:rstlist@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG] On</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Behalf Of Andy Potter</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 8:20 PM</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> To: RSTLIST@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Subject: Re: [RST-LIST] Definitions of
Conjunction and Disjunction</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Maite,</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> I don't know how you'll know when a consensus has
been reached, but it</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> seems</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> to me that the definitions recovered by
Gisela capture disjunction and</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> conjunction in a way that is both useful and
consistent with the spirit of</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> RST.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Andy</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> ----- Original Message -----</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> From: Maite Taboada</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> To: RSTLIST@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 10:39 AM</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Subject: Re: [RST-LIST] Definitions of
Conjunction and Disjunction</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Hi all,</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> I had a student this summer doing annotations,
and she started using the</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> disjunction and conjunction relations, because
they were listed listed in</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> the RST coder. Below are a few examples of the
text that she coded with</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> those relations. I'm not sure they all apply,
since I haven't gone over</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> them, and she was working without precise
definitions (she sort of came up</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> with definitions based on the examples she
found). She found many more</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> disjunctions than conjunctions, and most, if not
all, of them had only 2</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> nuclei.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> As for why the relations are not listed on the
web site any more, I simply</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> don't know. I transferred whatever was on the
original site around mid-</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> 2004,</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> and it looks like Bill had removed them by then.
I don't know why.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> If there's consensus in the list about
definitions, I'd be happy to post</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> them again on the site with examples.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> - Maite</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> ---------------------------------------------------------</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Examples:</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Disjunction</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> He either had Langdon flashback to a lecture he
gave in a class somewhere</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> (yawn)</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> or he had two or more characters discuss the
issue to death.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Will Peter ever get out,</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> or will he die in the tower?</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> She can’t get a good night’s sleep,</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> [disjunction, nucleus1] because either Grandma is
snoring [disjunction,</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> nucleus2] or somebody is breaking into her house
[sat., result] and waking</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> her up.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> either that,</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> or he was specifically looking for a movie
contract for this story,</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Apparently he just liked the name Betsey or kept
forgetting he'd already</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> used it.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Conjunction</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> This didn't make me like the story any less nor
did I find it hard to</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> follow-</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Disney provides great access to transportation
and every cast member is</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> ready to provide detailed directions and tips for
getting to your desired</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> destination quickly.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> ---------------------------------------------------------</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> At 19:20 12/09/2006 +0200, Gisela Redeker wrote:</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> I have been using the following definitions,
which I am pretty sure I got</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> from Bill Mann's page in 2003:</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Relation</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Constraints on each pair of N</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Intention of W</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Conjunction</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> The items are conjoined to form a unit in which
each item plays a</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> comparable</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> role</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> R recognizes that the linked items are conjoined</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Disjunction</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> An item presents a (not necessarily exclusive)
alternative for the</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> other(s)</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> R recognizes that the linked items are
alternatives</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> What I like about these definitions is their
flexibility: I distinguish</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> subject matter and presentational uses (for these
and for the multi-</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> nuclear</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> relations of LIST and SEQUENCE).</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> I've only now discovered that the current list of
definitions on the RST</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> site no longer includes these -- does anyone know
why?</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Best regards,</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Gisela</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Gisela Redeker, Professor</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Department of Communication and Information
Sciences Faculty of Arts,</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType>
of <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Groningen P.O.Box</st1:PlaceName></st1:place> 716,
NL-9700 AS Groningen g.redeker@rug.nl</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> tel:</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> +31-50-3635973 fax: +31-50-3636855</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> http://www.let.rug.nl/~redeker</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Mick O'Donnell wrote:</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Hi Chris, Jelisaveta,</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> The original document describing was RST:</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> William C. Mann and Sandra A. Thompson 1987
"Rhetorical Structure Theory:</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> A</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Theory of Text Organization". ISI Technical
Report ISI/RS-87-190.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> (available from: http://www.sfu.ca/rst/05bibliographies/report.html)</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> It mentions disjunction under multinuclear
relations (p73). However, from</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> a</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> quick look, I don't think any details are given
of this relation.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Conjunction is not mentioned.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> However, there is a Joint relation (p76), which I
think is too weak for</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> conjunction: Joint asserts no relation between
nuclei, while Conjunction</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> should assert some relation amongst the nuclei.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Note however that Bill Mann did add Conjunction
to the relation sets for</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> both classical and extended RST.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Mick</span></font></p>
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10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
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10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Jelisaveta Safranj wrote:</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Dear Chris,</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> I have found something in Discourse Tagging
Reference Manual written by</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Lynn</st1:place></st1:City></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Carlson and Daniel Marcu.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Disjunction is a multinuclear relation whose elements
can be listed as</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> alternatives, either positive or negative.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Examples:</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> [Call it a fad.] [Or call it the wave of the
future.]</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> In the aerobic phase, for instance, lactic acid
and lactate are still</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> produced, [but they are consumed by less active
muscles] [or metabolized</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> in</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> the liver] and so do not accumulate.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Conjunction is not mentioned at all.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;line-height:200%'>> Hope it helps</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
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