RB's problem is he don't know English: no way is moral'nyy iznos equivalent to "outdated" On the other hand, how many comprehend: Meli Emelya, tvoya nedelya? gg -- Genevra Gerhart http://www.wolfenet.com/~ggerhart/ 2134 E. Interlaken Bl. Tel. 206/329-0053 Seattle, WA 98112 ggerhart at wolfenet.com