variations, in clubs
John Dunn
J.Dunn at slavonic.arts.gla.ac.uk
Fri Oct 9 11:45:39 UTC 1998
>Helena Goscilo wrote:
>+++++++
>The standard contemporary form for clubs is TREFY (NOT trefi, for the last
>letter resembles the Nautilus workout grunt, not "ee" as in "eek"). The
>alternate form, attested by Dal' (see TOLKOVYI SLOVAR') is KRESTY (again,
>hard "y" sound, and stressed). An even rarer and outmoded alternate form
>is ZHLUDI. Requiescat in pace, ladno?
>++++++++
>No, definitely no peace - until we know something about how the usage
>varies (as hinted at by an earlier seelangovka). Age? Geography? Sex?
>'Class'? Education?
>
>Tom Priestly
On the Moscow-Volgograd train in May 1974 clubs were kresty and spades were
viny (also in Dal').
Geography: inhabitants of Volgograd (long-standing, if not native)
Age: 20-40
Sex: both
Class, Education: Can't remember, but probably mixed
Incidentally, they also endowed valet with a fleeting 'e' (valet, val'ta),
but although we were all sober at the time, they never succeeded in making
the rules of durak comprehensible.
John Dunn
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