From Wambah at aol.com  Thu Jul  1 14:13:34 1999
From: Wambah at aol.com (Laura Kline)
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 10:13:34 EDT
Subject: Lenin Library
Message-ID: <THU.1.JUL.1999.101334.EDT.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Thank you all for the help with and information about the Lenin Library.
Sincerely,
Laura Kline


From rar at slavic.umass.edu  Fri Jul  2 14:23:19 1999
From: rar at slavic.umass.edu (ROBERT A ROTHSTEIN)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 10:23:19 -0400
Subject: Visas
In-Reply-To: <v0302090ab107e123e785@[140.247.202.66]>
Message-ID: <FRI.2.JUL.1999.102319.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Rob,
        Any progress on the visa question?
                        Best, Bob


From rar at slavic.umass.edu  Fri Jul  2 14:26:43 1999
From: rar at slavic.umass.edu (ROBERT A ROTHSTEIN)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 10:26:43 -0400
Subject: Instantaneous apology
In-Reply-To: <199907021423.KAA19241@lessing.oit.umass.edu>
Message-ID: <FRI.2.JUL.1999.102643.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

My apologies for spamming everyone with a misdirected message.
                Bob Rothstein


From a.jameson at dial.pipex.com  Mon Jul  5 19:39:58 1999
From: a.jameson at dial.pipex.com (Andrew Jameson)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 20:39:58 +0100
Subject: Fw: MODELS OF SELF: RUSSIAN WOMEN'S AUTOBIOGRAPHICAL TEXTS
Message-ID: <MON.5.JUL.1999.203958.0100.>

FYI
Andrew Jameson
Chair, Russian Committee, ALL
Languages and Professional Development
1 Brook Street, Lancaster LA1 1SL UK
Tel: 01524 32371  (+44 1524 32371)

----------
> From: Serguei Alex Oushakine <oushakin at ssc.upenn.edu>
> To: nisjobs-owner at onelist.com; east-west-research at mailbase.ac.uk
> Subject: MODELS OF SELF: RUSSIAN WOMEN'S AUTOBIOGRAPHICAL TEXTS
> Date: 04 July 1999 00:21
>
>
> ------- Forwarded Message Follows -------
> From:                 Kirsti Ekonen <kekonen at cc.helsinki.fi>
> Subject:              Autot99 (fwd)
> To:                   naistutkimus at LISTSERV.FUNET.FI
> Date sent:            Sat, 19 Jun 1999 15:50:43 +0300 (EET DST)
>
> PRELIMINARY PROGRAM
> MODELS OF SELF: RUSSIAN WOMEN'S AUTOBIOGRAPHICAL TEXTS
> CONFERENCE IN HELSINKI, (Tieteiden talo, hall 104, Kirkkokatu 6)
> 27-28th August 1999
>
> Friday, August 27th
>
> 9.00    Registration
> 9.30    Opening
>
> 10.00 Olga Demidova: K voprosu o tipologii zhenskoj avtobiografii
> 10.40   Hilde Hoogenboom: Biographies of Elizaveta Kul'man and
>         Representations of Female Romantic Genius
> 11.20   Elena Tyryshkina: Searching for her own Image: Luidmila Vil'kina
>         (Diary and Epistolary Materials).
>
> 12.00-13.30     Lunch
>
> 13.30   Mihail Fajnstejn: Lichnoe i obschestvennoe v memuarah Karoliny
>         Pavlovoj. Ot stihov k proze
> 14.10   Irina Savkina: Ja i Ty v zhenskom dnevnike (dnevniki Anny Kern
>         i Anny Oleninoj)
>
> 14.50 - 15.20   Coffee break
>
> 15.20   Arja Rosenholm: Experiences and Reminiscences of the 1860s:
>         Shtakenshnejder, Panaeva, Vodovozova
> 16.00   Toby Clyman: Adelaida Lukanina: A Nineteenth Century Russian
>         Women's View of America
>
>
> Saturday, August 28th
>
> 9.30    Anna Temkina: Sexual Scripts in Russian Women's Biographies
> 10.10   Catriona Kelly: The Authorised Version: The Auto/Biographies
>         of Vera Panova
>
> 10.50 11.20     Coffee break
>
> 11.20   Marianne Liljestrvm: Rituality and Performativity in Soviet
>         Women's Autobiographical Texts from the 1970'ies
> 12.00 Irina Novikova: Men's Wars in Women's Memories - Elena
>         Rzhevskaya's Distant Rumble
> 12.40   Marja Rytkvnen: Voicing m/other in Russian Women's
>         Autobiographical Texts (of the 1990s)
>
> 13.20 - 15.00   Lunch
>
> 15.00   Anna Rotkirch: Pride and Pain in Soviet Women Worker's
>         Autobiographies
> 15.40   Elena Zdravomyslova: ?
>
> Information:    Kirsti Ekonen, conference secretary
>                 kirsti.ekonen at helsinki.fi
>
> Serguei Alex Oushakine


From mitrege at mail.auburn.edu  Wed Jul  7 14:20:19 1999
From: mitrege at mail.auburn.edu (George Mitrevski)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 09:20:19 -0500
Subject: Looking for Sally Dalton-Brown
Message-ID: <WED.7.JUL.1999.092019.0500.>

Please reply to original sender directly at address below.

,
> I'd like to find out about a lecture held last autumn for the aatseel by
> Ms Sally Dalton-Brown. She herself does not answer my e-mails so I would
> like to know whether her lecture was published somewhere. Who can I turn
> to to ask this question again?
>
> Thank you VERY much for your help
>
> Yours Nina Balz
>
> balzn005 at mail.uni-mainz.deD


From djbpitt+seelangs at pitt.edu  Wed Jul  7 18:44:07 1999
From: djbpitt+seelangs at pitt.edu (David J Birnbaum)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 14:44:07 -0400
Subject: AATSEEL web server
Message-ID: <WED.7.JUL.1999.144407.0400.DJBPITTSEELANGS@PITT.EDU>

Dear SEELANGS,

The AATSEEL web server is off-line until further notice to repair a
security breach. I'll post an announcement to this list when we have it
back up. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Best,

David (System Administrator)
________

Professor David J. Birnbaum
Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures
1417 Cathedral of Learning
University of Pittsburgh
Pittsburgh, PA 15260 USA
Voice: 1 412 624 5712
Fax: 1 412 624 9714
Email: djb at clover.slavic.pitt.edu
URL: http://clover.slavic.pitt.edu/~djb/


From roman at admin.ut.ee  Thu Jul  8 10:46:46 1999
From: roman at admin.ut.ee (R_L)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:46:46 +0300
Subject: Information about corpora in/of Russian.
Message-ID: <THU.8.JUL.1999.134646.0300.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Seelangsters,

If you know answers,
please, reply offlist.

R_L

>X-Sender: mdelgatto at sslmit.unibo.it
>X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32)
>Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 09:46:46 +0200
>To: roman at admin.ut.ee
>From: Max Del Gatto <mdelgatto at sslmit.unibo.it>
>Subject: Information about corpora in/of Russian.
>
>Dear Sir,
>
>My name is Max Del Gatto and I am student in English and Russian at the
>School for Interpreters and Translators in Forli' (Italy).
>
>I am about to write my degree thesis on corpus linguistics/theory of
>translation: the aim of my thesis will be the design of a corpus of the
>Russian language.
>
>Searching for corpora-things on the WEB I had the unbelievable luck of
>bumping into your page. (http://ash.swarthmore.edu/slavic/rusweb.html
>"Russian Studies on the WEB")
>
>I would endlessly appreciate, if you could kindly
>
>- let me know whether you know any Universtiy that has already started the
>designing of or has already built a corpus in Russian, or
>- forward my letter to those who deal with the subject-matter, or
>- supply me with reference materials of your choice (i.e., I have already
>collected some interesting material about the designing of the Brown corpus
>. http://khnt.hit.uib.no/icame/manuals/brown/INDEX.HTML "Brown Corpus
>Manual" . and I would like to duplicate the corpus in Russian, but I think
>I will have to discuss why I chose the Brown corpus design as a model on a
>very 'academic bases'):
>
>this will really help me writing my degree thesis and it will also lay the
>very bases for possible future cohopeartion between your University and mine.
>
>In the meanwhile, I am writing to all the University listed in your page: I
>hope something will popo out eventually!
>
>Looking very forward to hearing from you very soon, my thanks and best
>regards.
>
>Max Del Gatto
>
>Undergraduate Student at /Laureando alla
>SSLMIT (Scuola Superiore di Lingue Moderne per Interpreti e
>Traduttori/School for Interpreters and Translators) - Forli' - Italy
>
>RSVP
>
R_L


From hanya at brama.com  Thu Jul  8 18:45:30 1999
From: hanya at brama.com (Hanya Krill)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 14:45:30 -0400
Subject: Belarusian keyboard?
Message-ID: <THU.8.JUL.1999.144530.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Please respond directly to Ken:

I am having difficulties.  I work on a Mac.  I am trying to put together a
web page with a Belarusian friend and I am having difficulty with the
letters peculiar to Belarusian.  I downloaded a Ukranian (actually several)
keyboard layout and can type the letters the y with the little mark above
it and the letter that looks like the English letter i, but when I save
them, they change.

Can you help me?  Is there a Belarusian keyboard layout that you know about?

sPASIBO BOLX[OE!

kE[A kLARENSOWI^
Ken Westphal
ken at kenwestphal.com


From alexush at paonline.com  Thu Jul  8 20:17:58 1999
From: alexush at paonline.com (Alexander Ushakov)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 16:17:58 -0400
Subject: Belarusian keyboard?
Message-ID: <THU.8.JUL.1999.161758.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

In Windows 95/98:

Start>Settings>Control Panel>Add/Remove new programs>Widows setup>Multilang support, then add Cyrillic Lang support. Restart PC. Then again Start>Settings>Control Panel>Keyboard>Language>Add>Belarusian (Ukrainian, or whatever). Click enable indicator on taskbar. That's it.

Uspikhiv,

Alex Ushakov, technical translator
Russian, Ukrainian, Polish

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Hanya Krill <hanya at brama.com>
To: <SEELANGS at CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 1999 2:45 PM
Subject: Belarusian keyboard?


> Please respond directly to Ken:
> 
> I am having difficulties.  I work on a Mac.  I am trying to put together a
> web page with a Belarusian friend and I am having difficulty with the
> letters peculiar to Belarusian.  I downloaded a Ukranian (actually several)
> keyboard layout and can type the letters the y with the little mark above
> it and the letter that looks like the English letter i, but when I save
> them, they change.
> 
> Can you help me?  Is there a Belarusian keyboard layout that you know about?
> 
> sPASIBO BOLX[OE!
> 
> kE[A kLARENSOWI^
> Ken Westphal
> ken at kenwestphal.com
> 


From Gottscha at actr.org  Thu Jul  8 21:43:50 1999
From: Gottscha at actr.org (Kate Gottschall)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 17:43:50 -0400
Subject: Job openings with ACTR/ACCELS
Message-ID: <THU.8.JUL.1999.174350.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

American Councils for International Education: ACTR/ACCELS

NOTICE OF POSITIONS OPENING
Posting Date:   7/8/99
Closing Date:   open until filled
__________________________________________________________
Position Title/Program: Travel Coordinator - NIS Exchange
Programs

Locations:      New York, NY (2 positions)
                Newark, NY (1 position)
                Atlanta, GA (1 position)
__________________________________________________________

Position Description Summary:
The travel coordinator assists travelers from the NIS upon arrival to the
U.S. for participation on programs sponsored by the American Councils
for International Education. Most participants speak English; some are
less proficient than others. Some participants will be traveling with
English-speaking escorts. The primary responsibilities of the travel
coordinator: meeting arriving travelers at the designated airport; providing
logistical assistance as needed; distributing program material; and
assisting with lodging arrangements as necessary.

Qualifications:
Familiarity with designated airport: Kennedy, Newark or Atlanta
International Airport;
Strong communication and organizational skills;
Ability to handle multiple tasks simultaneously;
Ability to resolve travel-related problems quickly, effectively, and
diplomatically;
Basic knowledge of Russian preferred (but not required).

Rate of Pay:    $10/h + expenses

To Apply:
Submit a written letter of application with a current resume via fax:
202-872-9178, email: gottscha at actr.org, or by mail:
Human Resources Department
American Councils for International Education
1776 Massachusetts Ave., NW, Suite 700
Washington, DC 20036

Web Site:       http://www.actr.org

Approximate Period of Employment:       July 25 - September 30, 1999


From alexush at paonline.com  Thu Jul  8 22:22:10 1999
From: alexush at paonline.com (Alexander Ushakov)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 18:22:10 -0400
Subject: Belarusian keyboard?
Message-ID: <THU.8.JUL.1999.182210.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

I must have been too inattentive after a night's work:-)

Sorry,

Alex Ushakov

---------------------------

> In Windows 95/98:

> Start>Settings>Control Panel>Add/Remove new programs>Widows setup>Multilang 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Hanya Krill <hanya at brama.com>
To: <SEELANGS at CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 1999 2:45 PM
Subject: Belarusian keyboard?


> Please respond directly to Ken:
> 
> I am having difficulties.  I work on a Mac


From jakeunja at kyungho.or.kr  Fri Jul  9 03:29:28 1999
From: jakeunja at kyungho.or.kr (Yim Hwaseon)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 12:29:28 +0900
Subject: (no subject)
Message-ID: <FRI.9.JUL.1999.122928.0900.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

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From omalley at hawaii.edu  Mon Jul 12 19:30:44 1999
From: omalley at hawaii.edu (Lurana OMalley)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 09:30:44 -1000
Subject: Kostogloty query
Message-ID: <MON.12.JUL.1999.093044.1000.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Dear SEELANGS,

I am working on a 1789 story and opera by Catherine the Great, and have a
couple of questions.  The one I pose today is the plural term
"Kostogloty," which appears throughout the story, in such contexts as
this:

s prava idut Kostogloty, s leva leshie, a po sredine kolduny vo
mnozhestve.

I wonder how this term is usually translated, and whether someone can tell
me a bit about the Kostoglots.  Is this a common fairy tale device?  Any
folklore sources I can consult?

Many thanks as always for your kind help,

Lurana O'Malley


Lurana Donnels O'Malley
Associate Professor
Department of Theatre and Dance
1770 East-West Road
University of Hawai'i
Honolulu, Hawai'i 96822
Tel. 808-956-9609
Fax  808-956-4234
omalley at hawaii.edu
http://www2.hawaii.edu/~omalley/


From taube at fas.harvard.edu  Mon Jul 12 19:55:24 1999
From: taube at fas.harvard.edu (Prof. Moshe Taube)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:55:24 -0400
Subject: query: aby, daby etc.
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From taube at fas.harvard.edu  Mon Jul 12 20:03:08 1999
From: taube at fas.harvard.edu (Prof. Moshe Taube)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 16:03:08 -0400
Subject: query:  n/t participles and verbal nouns
Message-ID: <MON.12.JUL.1999.160308.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Are there any books or papers which treat the history of the expansion in
Polish, Ukrainian, Belorussian, Czech of the p.p. participles in -t at the
expense of those in -n (e.g. soznatyi)? Likewise of the verbal noun in -t
for -n (e.g. pristatie)?
Many thanks,  Moshe Taube


From townsend at phoenix.Princeton.EDU  Mon Jul 12 23:19:19 1999
From: townsend at phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Charles Townsend)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:19:19 -0400
Subject: query:  n/t participles and verbal nouns
Message-ID: <MON.12.JUL.1999.191919.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

>Are there any books or papers which treat the history of the expansion in
>Polish, Ukrainian, Belorussian, Czech of the p.p. participles in -t at the
>expense of those in -n (e.g. soznatyi)? Likewise of the verbal noun in -t
>for -n (e.g. pristatie)?
>Many thanks,  Moshe Taube

Dear Dr. Taube,

        I can be of no real help here with bibliography, but can only add
that Serbo-Croatian has the -znat- participial, too (which you've doubtless
already noticed yourself).  I've sometimes wondered myself how general this
phenomenon was in Slavic but have never traced it down.  Good luck with it.

        Charles Townsend


From yamato at yt.cache.waseda.ac.jp  Tue Jul 13 07:57:42 1999
From: yamato at yt.cache.waseda.ac.jp (Yoshimasa Tsuji)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 16:57:42 +0900
Subject: AlternativeCyrillicKeyboard
In-Reply-To: <378A46D9.A5E2B177@ualberta.ca> (message from Bob Busch on Mon,
 12 Jul 1999 12:49:46 -0700)
Message-ID: <TUE.13.JUL.1999.165742.0900.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Professor Busch,
  I am flattered to know that I can ever be of any use to you, Professor
Busch. Well, there are many Cyrillic keyboard drivers around, and I have been
tempted to simply let you know one of them, but I have decided that
the best thing to do is to let you the job yourself. I am saying so
because in my view you should establish the best compatibility with
your MacIntosh system with which I am least familiar.

If you search around the internet with the keyword "Janko's keyboard
generator", you will probably find
   http://solair.eunet.yu/~janko/e95downl.htm

Install the program, make sure you have installed at least one
Windows95/98 Cyrillic font, and run it. Now select the font
and put characters on the keys, save the keyboard driver,
install it.  That's it.

Now, the real reason I answer you in public is not that
I want to force the public to create their own keyboard drivers,
but that I wish to convey my thoughts on the Russian fonts and
keyboard layouts.

The current Cyrillic fonts do cover non-Russian characters but
do lack some of the most important ones: the o with the stress
sign is indispensable (big or bigger?). Classroom
handout needs to have all the stress positions clearly marked,
if you teach Russian abroad.
 Moreover, if you are a specialist of pre-1918 history/literature,
you may wish to use jat' or i. In fact, an American firm sells
a keyboard thing ("naklejka" in Russian, what was it in English?
I forgot) that contains I, TH, and ^E (the ^ should have been
a v like diacritical mark as it is a narrow e). Some of the
font manufacturers actually sell Russian fonts with these oldish
characters, but none sell accented vowels for classroom use.
I don't need accented vowels as I don't teach Russian, but I
definitely need to use `o. So I had to create my own fonts and
keyboard driver, and I think perhaps you do, too.


Zhelaju Vam vsego, vsego khoroshego.
With best wishes,

Tsuji

---------
My own keyboard layout is ---note that uppercase comes first ---

 TH is on |\ key

 1 No is on !1
 2- is on @2
 3/ is on #3
 4" is on $4
 5: is on %5
 6, is on ^6
 7. is on &7
 8-- is on *8  (tire)
 9? is on (9
 0% is on )0
 I  is on _-
 ^E is on +=

 I kratokoe, C, U, K, E, N, G, Sh, Shch, Z, KH, hard sign

 F, Y, V, A, P, R, O, L, D, ZH, revE,
 closing guillemet, opening guillemet on ~`

 Ja, Ch, S, M, I, T, soft sign, B, Ju, Jo
--- `o is printed by a TeX macro \`o as I use TeX rather than Microsoft
things ---

The keyboard layout of mine is not pre-1918, it is Soviet traditional
plus a few additions. I did so because I had been using Russian typewriters
more than ten years before I began using a computer with a Cyrillic
keyboard. At that time one wrote in Russian like in German, the same
way as Morse code or Braille code.


From Mogens.Jensen at skolekom.dk  Tue Jul 13 10:55:07 1999
From: Mogens.Jensen at skolekom.dk (Mogens Jensen)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 12:55:07 +0200
Subject: AlternativeCyrillicKeyboard
In-Reply-To: <199907130757.QAA06238@tsuji.yt.cache.waseda.ac.jp>
Message-ID: <TUE.13.JUL.1999.125507.0200.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

yamato at yt.cache.waseda.ac.jp writes:
...
>

> Some of the
>font manufacturers actually sell Russian fonts with these oldish
>characters, but none sell accented vowels for classroom use.
>I don't need accented vowels as I don't teach Russian, but I
>definitely need to use `o. So I had to create my own fonts and
>keyboard driver, and I think perhaps you do, too.
>
- in fact we do (Ozwix Data). - We sell a handfull of russian fonts
(including danish/norwegian/swedish/german spec.chars) - we also have made
them run with unicode-programs as eg Word97 - and with Jankos
keyboardlayoutmanager.
- Best wishes, Mogens Jensen, Ozwix Data, Denmark.
>
>Zhelaju Vam vsego, vsego khoroshego.
>With best wishes,
>
>Tsuji
>
>---------
>My own keyboard layout is ---note that uppercase comes first ---
>
> TH is on |\ key
>
> 1 No is on !1
> 2- is on @2
> 3/ is on #3
> 4" is on $4
> 5: is on %5
> 6, is on ^6
> 7. is on &7
> 8-- is on *8  (tire)
> 9? is on (9
> 0% is on )0
> I  is on _-
> ^E is on +=
>
> I kratokoe, C, U, K, E, N, G, Sh, Shch, Z, KH, hard sign
>
> F, Y, V, A, P, R, O, L, D, ZH, revE,
> closing guillemet, opening guillemet on ~`
>
> Ja, Ch, S, M, I, T, soft sign, B, Ju, Jo
>--- `o is printed by a TeX macro \`o as I use TeX rather than Microsoft
>things ---
>
>The keyboard layout of mine is not pre-1918, it is Soviet traditional
>plus a few additions. I did so because I had been using Russian
>typewriters
>more than ten years before I began using a computer with a Cyrillic
>keyboard. At that time one wrote in Russian like in German, the same
>way as Morse code or Braille code.


From K.R.Hauge at easteur-orient.uio.no  Tue Jul 13 21:35:44 1999
From: K.R.Hauge at easteur-orient.uio.no (Kjetil Ra Hauge)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 23:35:44 +0200
Subject: Belarusian keyboard?
In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990708144530.00871db0@brama.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.13.JUL.1999.233544.0200.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

>I am having difficulties.  I work on a Mac.  I am trying to put together a
>web page with a Belarusian friend and I am having difficulty with the
>letters peculiar to Belarusian.  I downloaded a Ukranian (actually several)
>keyboard layout and can type the letters the y with the little mark above
>it and the letter that looks like the English letter i, but when I save
                                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>them, they change.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This seems to indicate that the problem is not in the keyboard layout ­ if
you are, as you say, actually able to type those characters, the problem i
elsewhere. Are you using some kind of "WYSIWYG" web-page authoring program?
It seems that some of these programs know nothing about Cyrillic and will
assume that you are trying to enter characters in the high ASCII of
Latin-1. You don't say what these characters change to, but that would be
useful to diagnosticize the problem.


-- Kjetil Rå Hauge, U. of Oslo. Phone +47/22856710, fax +47/22854140
-- (this msg sent from home, ph. +47/67148424, fax +1/5084372444 [eFax, U.S.])


From mllemily at acsu.buffalo.edu  Tue Jul 13 22:37:40 1999
From: mllemily at acsu.buffalo.edu (Emily Tall)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 18:37:40 -0400
Subject: housing in Kiev
Message-ID: <TUE.13.JUL.1999.183740.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

I've just got a message from a student of mine doing an internship in Kiev
for an organization called AISEC. They are providing housing and he says
it's awful, with cockroaches, etc. I wonder if any of you know anyone in
Kiev who would like to rent out a room to a lovely young man who speaks
Russian, and knows some Polish and Ukrainian. Of course he could help with
English lessons, etc. Also, is there some nice person working in our
Embassy there who might provide a sympathetic ear? He told me he got fined
(I don't know by whom) because he didn't have some form in on time...and,
in general, that he was ready to give up and come home.
Many thanks in advance. Emily Tall, SUNY/Buffalo


From bobick at accessone.com  Tue Jul 13 22:49:16 1999
From: bobick at accessone.com (Stepan Bobyk)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 15:49:16 -0700
Subject: housing in Kiev
Message-ID: <TUE.13.JUL.1999.154916.0700.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

  Emily Tall <mllemily at ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU>:
  >I've just got a message from a student of mine doing an internship in Kiev
                                                                         ^^^^
  >for an organization called AISEC. They are providing housing and he says
  >it's awful, with cockroaches, etc. I wonder if any of you know anyone in
  >Kiev who would like to rent out a room to a lovely young man who speaks
   ^^^^
   ...

nAPEWNO PAN& MA$ NA UWAZ& "Kyiv".

z PO[ANO@ DO wAS,

-- sTEPAN bOBIK

+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|  .  /\  .                        .  /\  .                         .  /\  .  |
|  |\ \/ /|      sTEPAN bOBIK      |\ \/ /|  "6 ^UVOMU NAU^AJTESX,  |\ \/ /|  |
|  |/ || \|                        |/ || \|   sWOGO NE CURAJTESX,   |/ || \|  |
|  || || ||   "z KOSTI & Z KROWI   || || ||   bO HTO MAT&R ZABUWA$, || || ||  |
|  |_`'`'_|       UKRA'NECX"       |_`'`'_|   tOGO bOG KARA$."      |_`'`'_|  |
|     \/                              \/                               \/     |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+


From ggerhart at wolfenet.com  Wed Jul 14 04:40:47 1999
From: ggerhart at wolfenet.com (Genevra Gerhart)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 21:40:47 -0700
Subject: housing in Kiev
Message-ID: <TUE.13.JUL.1999.214047.0700.>

Hi, Emily -- Tell him that bugs are a fact of life, and they can appear
in the most respectable places. Cockroaches don't bite, even if they are
not nice. He is best off (1)acquiring some roach killer and (2)renting a
room in a household with a reasonably fastidious and blousy older
female. gg
--
Genevra Gerhart
http://www.wolfenet.com/~ggerhart/

2134 E. Interlaken  Bl.                 Tel. 206/329-0053
Seattle, WA  98112                      ggerhart at wolfenet.com


From roman at admin.ut.ee  Tue Jul 13 22:54:51 1999
From: roman at admin.ut.ee (R_L)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:54:51 +0300
Subject: housing in Kiev
In-Reply-To: <199907132250.BAA16937@kadri.ut.ee>
Message-ID: <WED.14.JUL.1999.015451.0300.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

At 15:49 13/07/99 -0700, you wrote:
>---------------------- Information from the mail header
-----------------------
>Sender:       "SEELangs: Slavic & E. European Languages & literatures list"
>              <SEELANGS at CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
>Poster:       Stepan Bobyk <bobick at accessone.com>
>Subject:      Re: housing in Kiev
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
>
>  Emily Tall <mllemily at ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU>:
>  >I've just got a message from a student of mine doing an internship in Kiev
>                                                                         ^^^^
>  >for an organization called AISEC. They are providing housing and he says
>  >it's awful, with cockroaches, etc. I wonder if any of you know anyone in
>  >Kiev who would like to rent out a room to a lovely young man who speaks
>   ^^^^
>   ...
>
>nAPEWNO PAN& MA$ NA UWAZ& "Kyiv".
>
>z PO[ANO@ DO wAS,
>
>-- sTEPAN bOBIK
Dyv. bud'-jakyj slovnyk anglijs'koji movy. Usjudy - "Kiev". Or we must
wrire "Pari" in Ukrainian? I'm not sure.
Cordially,

R_L


From rdelossa at fas.harvard.edu  Wed Jul 14 13:06:52 1999
From: rdelossa at fas.harvard.edu (Robert De Lossa)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 09:06:52 -0400
Subject: housing in Kiev
In-Reply-To: <199907132237.SAA04301@smtp1.fas.harvard.edu>
Message-ID: <WED.14.JUL.1999.090652.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Send your request to "announce at infoukes.com". You are more likely to get
productive replies. It would be more helpful, though, if he/you were to
indicate what part of the city he wants/needs to be in and for how long.
Language shouldn't be an issue if he doesn't make it an issue. It is always
appreciated if you show that you have some command of both (even if its
fluency in one and slight command of the other). In Kyiv, Russian is the
koine (except for anything official); fluency and importance of Ukrainian
is generational, regional, and socio-political. It is better for him not to
try to play off his interlocutors' preferences if he doesn't have a really
good command of both.

As for the fine--anyone that goes to that part of the world (Ukraine or
not) has to be prepared for rent-seeking (aka "gotcha" or, simply,
corruption), which is a major fact of life there. He shouldn't give up over
a fine. On the bright side, Kiev/Kyiv/Kiiow seems to be a little safer than
Moscow in terms of organized crime shakedowns. That's not saying much, but,
perhaps, it can afford him a little comfort.

Best, Rob De Lossa


>---------------------- Information from the mail header
>-----------------------
>Sender:       "SEELangs: Slavic & E. European Languages & literatures list"
>              <SEELANGS at CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
>Poster:       Emily Tall <mllemily at acsu.buffalo.edu>
>Subject:      housing in Kiev
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>I've just got a message from a student of mine doing an internship in Kiev
>for an organization called AISEC. They are providing housing and he says
>it's awful, with cockroaches, etc. I wonder if any of you know anyone in
>Kiev who would like to rent out a room to a lovely young man who speaks
>Russian, and knows some Polish and Ukrainian. Of course he could help with
>English lessons, etc. Also, is there some nice person working in our
>Embassy there who might provide a sympathetic ear? He told me he got fined
>(I don't know by whom) because he didn't have some form in on time...and,
>in general, that he was ready to give up and come home.
>Many thanks in advance. Emily Tall, SUNY/Buffalo


____________________________________________________
Robert De Lossa
Director of Publications
Ukrainian Research Institute, Harvard University
1583 Massachusetts Ave., Cambridge, MA 02138
617-496-8768; fax. 617-495-8097
reply to: rdelossa at fas.harvard.edu
http://www.sabre.org/huri/


From moss at panther.middlebury.edu  Wed Jul 14 16:13:34 1999
From: moss at panther.middlebury.edu (Kevin Moss)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 12:13:34 -0400
Subject: Pushkin's Prisoner of the Caucasus
Message-ID: <WED.14.JUL.1999.121334.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Help Seelangers!

Does anyone have or know where I can find an English version of PUSHKIN's
"Kavkazskii plennik"? It seems not to be in any of the collections in our
library and I'd like to use it in a course.

Please respond to my address below, as I'm off-list at present.
Thanks!

Kevin Moss
Russian Dept.
Middlebury College
Middlebury, VT 05753

tel: (802) 443-5786
fax: (802) 443-5394
www.middlebury.edu/~moss

 Certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate non iam adesse!


From klr8p at virginia.edu  Thu Jul 15 04:08:16 1999
From: klr8p at virginia.edu (Karen Ryan)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 21:08:16 -0700
Subject: looking for films
Message-ID: <WED.14.JUL.1999.210816.0700.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

I am looking for the following films to use in a CD courseware project I'm
developing.  Does anyone know of any sources where one might borrow or
purchase these films?

> Mark Donskoi's "Rainbow"
> Fredrikh Ermler's "She Defends the Motherland"
> Lev Arnshtam's "Zoia"

Thanks!

Karen Ryan

Chair
Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures
109 Cabell Hall
University of Virginia
Charlottesville, VA 22903
804-924-3548/6688


From dpbrowne+ at pitt.edu  Thu Jul 15 18:29:59 1999
From: dpbrowne+ at pitt.edu (Devin P Browne)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 14:29:59 -0400
Subject: Russian exhibit
Message-ID: <THU.15.JUL.1999.142959.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

>>From another list.

Devin P Browne
dpbrowne+ at pitt.edu

===================================
FOWARDED MESSAGE:


Date:    Thu, 15 Jul 1999 11:16:34 -0700
From:    Bernadine Banning <bbanning at runet.edu>
Subject: Russian Exhibit in Mobile

There is an interesting web page on exhibit of Russian art at:
http://www.nicholasandalexandra.com/

Bernadine Banning
Professor of Spanish
Radford University
Radford, VA 24142
bbanning at runet.edu
540-831-5137, please leave recorded messages.


From yastrem at bucknell.edu  Thu Jul 15 19:10:40 1999
From: yastrem at bucknell.edu (Slava Yastremski)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 15:10:40 -0400
Subject: looking for films
In-Reply-To: <l03020907b3b30ec8789b@[128.143.3.129]>
Message-ID: <THU.15.JUL.1999.151040.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Bucknell Univ has a copy of She Defended... Its English title is No Greater
Love. It's available through Facets.

******************************************************************************
Slava I. Yastremski
Associate Professor of Russian
Director of the Russian Program
Department of Modern Languages,
Literatures, and Linguistics
Bucknell University
Lewisburg, PA 17837
tel: (717) 524-1746
fax: (717) 524-3760
e-mail: yastrem at bucknell.edu


From mllemily at acsu.buffalo.edu  Fri Jul 16 00:31:46 1999
From: mllemily at acsu.buffalo.edu (Emily Tall)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 20:31:46 -0400
Subject: catchy slogans
Message-ID: <THU.15.JUL.1999.203146.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

In my unending search for enrollment (that's all they care about here...)
I am planning a brochure. I have been advised to think up catchy humorous
slogans (I have the "10 reasons to study Russian" published in the AATSEEL
newsletter a while ago), or interesting "do you know's" like "do you know
that Russia covers 10 time zones" [it is 10 now, isn't it?]. Do any of you
have any bright ideas? Thanks in advance! Emily Tall, SUNY/Buffalo


From mllemily at acsu.buffalo.edu  Fri Jul 16 00:32:56 1999
From: mllemily at acsu.buffalo.edu (Emily Tall)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 20:32:56 -0400
Subject: informatics/pragmatics
Message-ID: <THU.15.JUL.1999.203256.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Do any of you know how to contact the company, Informatics and Pragmatics,
in Berkeley, that puts out the bibliographical guide to the emigre
periodical press? I've tried the phone book and made a stab at the
internet. Thanks. Emily Tall


From jchmura at stetson.edu  Fri Jul 16 02:11:05 1999
From: jchmura at stetson.edu (Judy Chmura)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 22:11:05 -0400
Subject: Russian exhibit
Message-ID: <THU.15.JUL.1999.221105.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

The site for the Russian exhibit on Nicholas and Alexandra is
beautifully done, but the links for "Educators" and the one for
"Exhibition News" do not work. I did not explore it much farther.

Judy Chmura
Stetson University

Devin P Browne wrote:

> >From another list.
>
> Devin P Browne
> dpbrowne+ at pitt.edu
>
> ===================================
> FOWARDED MESSAGE:
>
> Date:    Thu, 15 Jul 1999 11:16:34 -0700
> From:    Bernadine Banning <bbanning at runet.edu>
> Subject: Russian Exhibit in Mobile
>
> There is an interesting web page on exhibit of Russian art at:
> http://www.nicholasandalexandra.com/
>
> Bernadine Banning
> Professor of Spanish
> Radford University
> Radford, VA 24142
> bbanning at runet.edu
> 540-831-5137, please leave recorded messages.

--
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Peace,

Judy Chmura

jchmura at stetson.edu
URL  http://www.stetson.edu/~jchmura/personaljc.html

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


From dpbrowne+ at pitt.edu  Fri Jul 16 11:29:00 1999
From: dpbrowne+ at pitt.edu (Devin P Browne)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 07:29:00 -0400
Subject: catchy slogans
Message-ID: <FRI.16.JUL.1999.072900.0400.DPBROWNE@PITT.EDU>

The first year I offered Russian I used the "campaign" slogan "Take the
Russian Challenge!"  And then I listed some "did you know's...?"
underneath.  The kids from that first year still talk about how they
"decided to take the Russian challenge" three years ago.

Devin / Divan

Devin P Browne
dpbrowne+ at pitt.edu


From dpbrowne+ at pitt.edu  Fri Jul 16 11:34:49 1999
From: dpbrowne+ at pitt.edu (Devin P Browne)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 07:34:49 -0400
Subject: Russian exhibit
Message-ID: <FRI.16.JUL.1999.073449.0400.DPBROWNE@PITT.EDU>

Judy Chmura <jchmura at stetson.edu> wrote:

> The site for the Russian exhibit on Nicholas and Alexandra is
> beautifully done, but the links for "Educators" and the one for
> "Exhibition News" do not work. I did not explore it much farther.

I was disappointed with that, too.

Additionally, I called one of the phone #'s I found on the web site to
inquire if this exhibit would be touring or if it would stay only in
Alabama (some place on the site there is something that refers to "the
beginning of the American tour" or something like that, but supplies no
further details).

The woman I spoke with said she didn't have that information.  When I
asked to speak w/someone who would have that information she said she
didn't think *anyone* would.  Hmmmm.  So I asked to speak w/her manager
and she said she was the manager.  Hmmmm.  Then she suggested I speak
w/someone in public relations - maybe they would know who I could talk
with.  But the PR department never picked up their line (I waited on hold
for almost 10 minutes).  Verrrrry interesting.....

Devin / Divan

Devin P Browne
dpbrowne+ at pitt.edu


From p.barta at surrey.ac.uk  Fri Jul 16 13:32:40 1999
From: p.barta at surrey.ac.uk (Dr Peter I. Barta)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:32:40 +0100
Subject: British Association of Slavonic and East European Studies
 convention 2000
Message-ID: <FRI.16.JUL.1999.143240.0100.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

>
>CALL FOR PAPERS
>
>Abstracts (100 words) are invited for 20-minute papers in LITERATURE,
>WOMEN'S STUDIES, GENDER STUDIES, FILM AND MEDIA STUDIES, CULTURAL
>STUDIES to be given at the annual convention of the British Association
>of Slavonic and East European Studies at Fitzwilliam College, Cambridge
>University (UK) between 1-3 April 2000.  Send abstract by 20 October
>1999 to PETER I. BARTA (p.barta at surrey.ac.uk) at the Dept. of
>Linguistic and International Studies, University of Surrey, Guildford,
>Surrey GU2 5XH, England.
>
>


>
Dr Peter I. Barta
Senior Lecturer
Head, Russian Studies
University of Surrey
Guildford GU2 5XH
England
Tel: (01483) 300800 ext 2822
e-mail: p.barta at surrey.ac.uk
fax:  (01483)259527


From KENNETH.UDUT at spcorp.com  Fri Jul 16 14:06:00 1999
From: KENNETH.UDUT at spcorp.com (UDUT, KENNETH)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 10:06:00 -0400
Subject: Is there a computer program which "diagrams" Russian cases?
Message-ID: <FRI.16.JUL.1999.100600.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

     Hello SEELANGers!

     First, a quick "thank you!" is in order for simply being here.
     Prof. Jason Merril of Drew University (Madison NJ USA), who is one
     of the quieter members of the list (I think, that I am a far
     noisier member!), contacted me with an invitation to attend the
     Russian I and II elementary courses at Drew during the summer, when
     I requested information about tutors and/or courses being taught.

     Well, the course went well.  I was not one of the best students to
     be sure, but in a mere 8 weeks time, thanks to SEELANGS, Prof.
     Merril, my sister (for driving me down there and taking a course
     there herself simply so that I could take the beginning Russian),
     and undoubtedly the prayers of Sts Cyril and Methidius (who better
     to ask to pray for you in learning a Slavic language than the
     inventers of the written portion!?), I at least have four cases
     down, past present and future, and aspect.  There's a long road
     ahead of me, but that's true of any language learning, I'm sure,
     and I'm ready for it.


     Now - my question: Does anybody here know of a program (MS-DOS or
     Windows3.1/95) which can take a sentence in Russian and "diagram"
     it?

     I may end up writing the program myself, but I'm hoping that
     something exists...

     Basically, all it would have to do is: Identify the case (I assume
     it would do so by reading the sentence backwards and peeking at the
     endings of the words), and either break it out in standard
     diagramming form, or simply use different colors to identify what
     it thinks the cases are.


     If that doesn't exist, perhaps there is a workbook which helps one
     practice diagramming sentences?  [maybe 7 sentences per page with
     plenty of room for the diagramming, and answers in the back of the
     book]

     (otherwise, I will probably just take some Russian books that I
     have and try it on my own.  Still, it's nice to have the answers
     ready and waiting for you to compare with :) )


     Thank you for your help!


     -Kenneth
     kenneth.udut at spcorp.com


From AMandelker at aol.com  Fri Jul 16 14:56:18 1999
From: AMandelker at aol.com (Amy Mandelker)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 10:56:18 EDT
Subject: looking for films
Message-ID: <FRI.16.JUL.1999.105618.EDT.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Try "Facets" out of Chicago; they rent and sell, and have most everything.


From AMandelker at aol.com  Fri Jul 16 15:00:01 1999
From: AMandelker at aol.com (Amy Mandelker)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:00:01 EDT
Subject: catchy slogans
Message-ID: <FRI.16.JUL.1999.110001.EDT.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Some years ago I saw a poster which read, "Russian Literature is Better Than
Sex".  It featured a man reading a Dostoevsky novel wearing a huge black fur
hat; on the hat was a pair of miniature trysting lovers who were peering over
the edge of the hat to read the novel.  Enrollments were up that semester.


From alesta at banet.net  Fri Jul 16 17:23:14 1999
From: alesta at banet.net (A & S)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:23:14 -0400
Subject: teatr
Message-ID: <FRI.16.JUL.1999.132314.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Is anyone aware of valuable web-based sources on theatre life in Russia
(other than theatre.ru)?
Also, what is the customary title translation of A. Miller's "Death of a
Salesman"?
In general, what are some of the best books on the history and current
developments of theater in Russia?

Thank you kindly,

Elena Rosenberg


From Wambah at aol.com  Fri Jul 16 17:22:32 1999
From: Wambah at aol.com (Laura Kline)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:22:32 EDT
Subject: teatr
Message-ID: <FRI.16.JUL.1999.132232.EDT.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Miller's work is "Smert' kommivoyazhera."


From roman at admin.ut.ee  Fri Jul 16 17:39:45 1999
From: roman at admin.ut.ee (R_L)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 20:39:45 +0300
Subject: teatr
In-Reply-To: <199907161719.UAA09682@kadri.ut.ee>
Message-ID: <FRI.16.JUL.1999.203945.0300.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

At 13:23 16/07/99 -0400, you wrote:
>---------------------- Information from the mail header
-----------------------
>Sender:       "SEELangs: Slavic & E. European Languages & literatures list"
>              <SEELANGS at CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
>Poster:       A & S <alesta at banet.net>
>Subject:      teatr
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
>
>Is anyone aware of valuable web-based sources on theatre life in Russia
>(other than theatre.ru)?

http://www.list.ru/catalog/10879.html (Russian Yahoo or something like this
- directory with links)

http://www.yandex.ru/yandsearch?text=%F2%E5%E0%F2%F0 (Russian Altavista or
something like this - result of search on keyword "TEATR").

Sincerely,


R_L


From esampson at cu.campuscwix.net  Fri Jul 16 17:53:34 1999
From: esampson at cu.campuscwix.net (Earl Sampson)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:53:34 -0600
Subject: catchy slogans
Message-ID: <FRI.16.JUL.1999.115334.0600.>

The poster, if I remember right, was produced by Ardis Publishers. You might
contact them to see if it's still available.

Earl Sampson

Amy Mandelker wrote:

> Some years ago I saw a poster which read, "Russian Literature is Better Than
> Sex".  It featured a man reading a Dostoevsky novel wearing a huge black fur
> hat; on the hat was a pair of miniature trysting lovers who were peering over
> the edge of the hat to read the novel.  Enrollments were up that semester.


From alesta at banet.net  Fri Jul 16 18:49:07 1999
From: alesta at banet.net (A & S)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:49:07 -0400
Subject: teatr
Message-ID: <FRI.16.JUL.1999.144907.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Thanks very much. The first URL is particularly helpful.

Elena
-
:http://www.list.ru/catalog/10879.html (Russian Yahoo or something like this
:- directory with links)
:
:http://www.yandex.ru/yandsearch?text=%F2%E5%E0%F2%F0 (Russian Altavista or
:something like this - result of search on keyword "TEATR").
:
:Sincerely,
:
:
:R_L
:


From natalia.lusin at mla.org  Fri Jul 16 20:55:46 1999
From: natalia.lusin at mla.org (natalia.lusin at mla.org)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:55:46 EDT
Subject: FL brochure
Message-ID: <FRI.16.JUL.1999.165546.EDT.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

In response to Emily Tall's inquiry:

The Foreign Language Programs office at the MLA recently published a brochure
about language study. It's not specific to Russian, but may still be useful.

It's available for free, from 1 to 100 copies (while supplies last) and it can
be duplicated. You can order it at: FLbrochure at mla.org

It's also downloadable from the ADFL website: www.adfl.org (go to "resources for
departments"). It's in PDF format.

Hope it helps!

Natalia Lusin
MLA


From ggerhart at wolfenet.com  Fri Jul 16 23:32:43 1999
From: ggerhart at wolfenet.com (Genevra Gerhart)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:32:43 -0700
Subject: catchy slogans
Message-ID: <FRI.16.JUL.1999.163243.0700.>

Russia and Time zones: the answer is still 11. Though the last one out
on the Chukotskiy peninsula is not actually, shall we say, celebrated.
Chukchi operate on the time of the next zone West. gg
--
Genevra Gerhart
http://www.wolfenet.com/~ggerhart/

2134 E. Interlaken  Bl.                 Tel. 206/329-0053
Seattle, WA  98112                      ggerhart at wolfenet.com


From dpbrowne+ at pitt.edu  Sat Jul 17 04:01:59 1999
From: dpbrowne+ at pitt.edu (Devin P Browne)
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 00:01:59 -0400
Subject: slogans
In-Reply-To: <378F5FAF.3942@wolfenet.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.17.JUL.1999.000159.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

> Why not post some possible slogans/challenges? gg
> --
> Genevra Gerhart
> http://www.wolfenet.com/~ggerhart/

At Genevra's suggestion, I'll confess my slogan during the 2nd "campaign":

RUSSIAN - IT'S NOT JUST FOR BREAKFAST ANYMORE

OK, it was weird, a bit "out there" and not terribly successful as an
attractor (no students got the reference, but lots of teachers and
administrators got a kick out of it).  It attracted a few - mostly the
students who, like many Russophiles, are a little "out there" themselves
(myself included!).  But it did bring a lot of attention to the class.

Any other suggestions out there?  Any horribly witty "pun-dits" who can do
a good play on words that we teachers can use in future "campaigns"?  For
instance....

WHERE ARE YOU *RUSSIAN* TO?  HURRY, SIGN UP FOR RUSSIAN BEFORE IT'S TOO
LATE!

[god, i'm good]

Any others?  Anyone else find success in humor when recruiting for
Russian?  I know Pitt had a dancing Boris Yeltsin one year on one of their
flyers (how I would love to get that image for my Russian homepage!).  It
was great fun!

Devin / Divan

Devin P Browne
dpbrowne+ at pitt.edu


From kpking at MtHolyoke.edu  Sat Jul 17 12:59:00 1999
From: kpking at MtHolyoke.edu (Katerina P. King)
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 08:59:00 -0400
Subject: slogans
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.96L.990716235256.266C-100000@unixs5.cis.pitt.edu>
Message-ID: <SAT.17.JUL.1999.085900.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

A while ago I did a top 10 list a la David Letterman called Top 10 Reasons
to Study Czech. It had references to Ivana Trump, Paulina Porizkova, beer,
Prague, Havel, The Unbearable Lightness of Beeing, beer -- well, you get
the picture. And the #1 reason to study Czech was: the letter R^ ! I'm not
sure how many students it attracted, but it was a fun thing to do.

Katya


From mlszabo at hotmail.com  Sat Jul 17 14:56:14 1999
From: mlszabo at hotmail.com (Michelle L. Szabo)
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 07:56:14 PDT
Subject: Nizhny Novgorod
Message-ID: <SAT.17.JUL.1999.075614.PDT.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Seelangers

I am heading to Nizhny Novgorod in the fall for the year and am wondering if
anyone has any NN-specific advice or helpful hits they'd like to pass on. I
haven't had very much luck finding info on the Web that isn't business
related, although I have seen some nice pictures. I've spent a fair amount
of time in the USSR and Russia, but it's been 5 years, and I have never been
to NN. How's the water, for instance, and the condition of the Oka and the
Volga in that area? Is there a better area of the city to find an apartment?
Are European grocery stores still the only place to find Western grocery
items? Is it possible to use ATMs with either a credit or a debit card; are
there ATMs? When does the weather turn cold, how cold does it get, and when
does it warm up again? I'm also planning on taking a laptop computer - will
it be possible to get an internet provider (I'm obliged to have a phone in
my apartment per the conditions of my fellowship)? What extra
cords/cable/plugs/adapters would be recommended? Anyting else?

So as not to burden everyone, please reply to me off-list. Thanks a lot. I
hope everyone is having a great summer.

Michelle Szabo
mlszabo at hotmail.com


_______________________________________________________________
Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com


From jmcd at ziplink.net  Mon Jul 19 04:08:27 1999
From: jmcd at ziplink.net (James McDermott)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 00:08:27 -0400
Subject: slogans
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.3.96.990717085235.25052A-100000@mhc.mtholyoke.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.19.JUL.1999.000827.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm....One could do the same with Polish:

vodka
Krakow
vodka
sok porzeczki - world's best vodka mixer: Study Polish and find out what it
is!
Lech Walesa
vodka
bison
the only desert in Europe

We just need a couterpart for Paulina Porizkova :-)



Jim McDermott
jmcd at ziplink.net


>
> A while ago I did a top 10 list a la David Letterman called Top 10 Reasons
> to Study Czech. It had references to Ivana Trump, Paulina Porizkova, beer,
> Prague, Havel, The Unbearable Lightness of Beeing, beer -- well, you get
> the picture. And the #1 reason to study Czech was: the letter R^ ! I'm not
> sure how many students it attracted, but it was a fun thing to do.
>
> Katya
>


From elisabeth.seitz at uni-tuebingen.de  Mon Jul 19 08:47:03 1999
From: elisabeth.seitz at uni-tuebingen.de (Dr. Elisabeth Seitz)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:47:03 +0200
Subject: Announcement: Tuebingen Russian Corpora Online-Query
Message-ID: <MON.19.JUL.1999.104703.0200.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Dear colleagues,


the Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures at the University of
Tuebingen, Germany, and Project B1 of SFB 441 are pleased to announce the
first release of the ONLINE QUERYABLE TUEBINGEN RUSSIAN CORPORA. The query
interface, as well as information about the corpus and the corpus project
can be accessed on the WWW at URL:


http://www.sfb441.uni-tuebingen.de/b1/korpora.html


As a start, the Tuebingen Russian Corpora contain the Uppsala Corpus of
modern Russian texts. It provides a CGI interface to the corpus files,
which allows keyword searching with whole words and regular expressions in
PERL. The interface displays the query results with cyrillic encoding
(KOI8-R or Windows Codepage 1251) or latin transliteration, provides
frequency counts and, if selected, contextual output and exact
bibliographic sources.

In the future, we plan to provide annotated corpora and add to the
Tuebingen Russian Corpora a collection of text types as complete and
representative as possible, which will be available free of charge for
research purposes. Contributions are welcome!

If you need further information please don't hesitate to contact us:

        Sonderforschungsbereich 441
        Projekt B1
        Koestlinstr. 6
        D-72074 Tuebingen, Germany
        e-mail: michael.betsch at uni-tuebingen.de



*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*

Dr. Elisabeth Seitz
University of Tuebingen
Department of Slavic Studies (Slavisches Seminar)
Wilhelmstr. 50
D-72074 Tuebingen (Germany)

Tel.: ++49/7071/29-78495 (secretary: 29-78492)
Fax:  ++49/7071/29-5924
E-Mail: elisabeth.seitz at uni-tuebingen.de
http:/homepages.uni-tuebingen.de/elisabeth.seitz/

*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*


From djg11 at cornell.edu  Mon Jul 19 14:20:48 1999
From: djg11 at cornell.edu (David J. Galloway)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:20:48 -0400
Subject: Albanian Language...Help needed!
Message-ID: <MON.19.JUL.1999.102048.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Seelangers,

This message came to me, but I can't be of assistance.  If you can help,
please contact Wendy directly at buna at bc.sympatico.ca

Thanks.

>Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 22:43:33 -0700
>From: Wendy Schweigert <buna at bc.sympatico.ca>
>Reply-To: buna at bc.sympatico.ca
>Subject: Albanian Language...Help needed!
>
>Hi,
>       I found your name on the internet and decidec to write a note in the
>faint hope that you may be able to help me.I am in the process of
>helping a young couple from Kosovo.The wife has given birth to twins.
>The twins are very small. They are arriving here on Tuesday July 20th.
>They don't speak a word of english and I do not speak Albanian.
>Translators are not easy to come by. Plus they are limited in the time
>they can spend with this couple. My question to you is do you have
>access to any good Albanian/ English phrase books? I have tried
>everywhere I can think of!
>               Hoping to hear good news,
>                       Wendy


***************************************************************************
David J. Galloway
Slavic Studies
236 Goldwin Smith Hall
Cornell University
Ithaca, NY 14853
Tel: (607) 255-8350
Fax:  (607) 255-1454
Email:  djg11 at cornell.edu

AATSEEL Intensive Language Programs page:
http://clover.slavic.pitt.edu/~aatseel/intensive-programs/index.html
AATSEEL Endangered Programs page:
http://clover.slavic.pitt.edu/~aatseel/endangered-programs/index.html


From daf at meirionnydd.force9.co.uk  Thu Jul 15 17:41:22 1999
From: daf at meirionnydd.force9.co.uk (Daf)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 18:41:22 +0100
Subject: AlternativeCyrillicKeyboard
Message-ID: <THU.15.JUL.1999.184122.0100.>

 Some of the
> font manufacturers actually sell Russian fonts with these oldish
> characters, but none sell accented vowels for classroom use.
> I don't need accented vowels as I don't teach Russian, but I
> definitely need to use `o. So I had to create my own fonts and
> keyboard driver, and I think perhaps you do, too.

One way round this is to purchase OUP Rus -Eng dictionary on CD. In my
experience this is not without bugs but is nevertheless useful and
installing it also seems to install the Times New Roman Cyrillic font. I
then copied all the stressed vowels from character map and I insert them by
find and replace. It sounds [well, is] longwinded but it does work. Of
course anyone needing to read your documents has to have that font.
Daf  [web page-http://www.meirionnydd.force9.co.uk]


From sforres1 at swarthmore.edu  Mon Jul 19 16:28:52 1999
From: sforres1 at swarthmore.edu (Sibelan Forrester)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 12:28:52 -0400
Subject: SEEJ books-for-review update
Message-ID: <MON.19.JUL.1999.122852.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Lots of good new stuff (and good old stuff) on the web list of books
available for review in SEEJ.  Please check it out at:

http://www.swarthmore.edu/Humanities/sforres1/seej/

Sibelan Forrester
SEEJ Book Review Editor


From ggerhart at wolfenet.com  Mon Jul 19 17:18:54 1999
From: ggerhart at wolfenet.com (Genevra Gerhart)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:18:54 -0700
Subject: Odessa
Message-ID: <MON.19.JUL.1999.101854.0700.>

Dear Seelangers,

I have been told that Russians say "Odessa" with a hard e (e
oborotnoye),and that Ukrainians use a soft e.
The dictionary of stress insists that  the soft one is the right one,
and further insists specifically that the hard one (e oborotnoye) is the
wrong one. That specific denial suggests that there is more to the
story.
What do you know?
And thanks for any help. gg
--
Genevra Gerhart
http://www.wolfenet.com/~ggerhart/

2134 E. Interlaken  Bl.                 Tel. 206/329-0053
Seattle, WA  98112                      ggerhart at wolfenet.com


From lgoering at carleton.edu  Mon Jul 19 17:22:07 1999
From: lgoering at carleton.edu (Laura Goering)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 12:22:07 -0500
Subject: Jakobson
Message-ID: <MON.19.JUL.1999.122207.0500.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

A colleague in Russia asked me for the reference for the Russian version of
Jakobson's article on the single-stem verb system .  Does anyone know it
offhand?  Please reply off-list to lgoering at carleton.edu.  Thanks.
Laura Goering


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Laura Goering
Associate Professor of Russian
Dept. of German and Russian
Carleton College
Northfield, MN 55057
Tel: 507-646-4125


From aisrael at american.edu  Mon Jul 19 17:47:55 1999
From: aisrael at american.edu (Alina Israeli)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:47:55 -0400
Subject: FW: 2nd CfP Gender: Language, Culture, Communication
Message-ID: <MON.19.JUL.1999.134755.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

--------------- Forwarded Message ---------------

                                             SECOND CALL FOR PAPERS

Dear Colleagues,

you are welcome to participate in the First International Conference

                             "Gender: Language, Culture, Communication"

          (http://www.gendermglu.da.ru                gender.mglu at gmx.net)

hosted by Moscow State Linguistic University, Moscow 25 -26 November 1999.


                                              PROPOSED DISCUSSION POINTS

- GENDER AS SOCIOCULTURAL PHENOMENON
- TEXT AND DISCOURSE: GENDER ANALYSIS
- TRANSLATION IN GENDER RESEARCH
- GENDER AS BIOSOCIAL PHENOMENON: PSYCHOLINGUISTIC APPROACH

The host committee will be happy to consider your applications and
presentation
abstracts on other Gender Linguistics topical issues.


                                    CONFERENCE PARTICIPATION FORMAT

- WORKSHOP REPORT - 15 min
- POSTER PRESENTATION - 15 min
- CONFERENCE PARTICIPATION

The working languages are Russian and English (simultaneous interpretation
is
provided). Arrangements will be made to set up other languages working
groups
within workshops. Presentation abstracts will be published in the language
of
the original.


The registration fee is 300 roubles. Speakers are exempt from the fee.

For further procedure information  visit us at: http://www.gendermglu.da.ru

Accommodation in MSLU Residence Hall at 6/2 Komsomlsky prospekt, Moscow
will be
provided. Hotel reservation is also available at your request. Date of
arrival: 24 November 1999

You are kindly requested to submit your applications and presentation
abstracts
- both on a floppy disc (Word 6.0/95 or RTF) and a printout, one page 1.5
spaced - by 25 September 1999 at the latest.

Free publication of presentation abstracts will be provided. Please e-mail
your
applications and presentation abstracts at: gender.mglu at gmx.net. Tel./fax:
(095) 246-2807 Alexander N. Naberezhnov

Contact address: Dr. Alla V. Kirilina, 38 Ostozhenka, Moscow 119837,
Russia,
The First International Conference "Gender: Language, Culture,
Communication"
host committee.

http://www.gendermglu.da.ru                      gender.mglu at gmx.net

**************************************************************
Alina Israeli
LFS, American University                phone:  (202) 885-2387
4400 Mass. Ave., NW                     fax:    (202) 885-1076
Washington, DC 20016

aisrael at american.edu


From vac10 at columbia.edu  Mon Jul 19 18:11:12 1999
From: vac10 at columbia.edu (Vitaly A. Chernetsky)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 14:11:12 -0400
Subject: Odessa
In-Reply-To: <37935DFE.12B7@wolfenet.com>
Message-ID: <MON.19.JUL.1999.141112.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Genevra Gerhart wrote:
> Dear Seelangers,
>
> I have been told that Russians say "Odessa" with a hard e (e
> oborotnoye),and that Ukrainians use a soft e.
> The dictionary of stress insists that  the soft one is the right one,
> and further insists specifically that the hard one (e oborotnoye) is the
> wrong one. That specific denial suggests that there is more to the
> story.
> What do you know?
> And thanks for any help. gg
> --
> Genevra Gerhart
> http://www.wolfenet.com/~ggerhart/
>
> 2134 E. Interlaken  Bl.                 Tel. 206/329-0053
> Seattle, WA  98112                      ggerhart at wolfenet.com

Dear Genevra, dear seelangers,

As a native of Odessa I can assure you that the way Odessans prefer the
name of their city pronounced in Russian is with a soft "d" and
consequently the soft (front) "e"; in Ukrainian, the city's name is
spelled "Odesa" and is pronounced with a hard "d"; however, Ukrainian "e"
is more front ("softer") than the Russian "e oborotnoe." Only
out-of-towners would pronounce the city's name in Russian with a hard "d"
and "e oborotnoe" (and would be laughed at).

VC

--------------------------------------------------------------------
Vitaly A. Chernetsky                    tel. (212) 854-5580 (office)
Assistant Professor                                854-3941 (dept.)
Department of Slavic Languages          fax  (212) 854-5009
715 Hamilton Hall                       e-mail: vac10 at columbia.edu
Columbia University, New York, NY 10027
--------------------------------------------------------------------


From a.jameson at dial.pipex.com  Mon Jul 19 19:21:06 1999
From: a.jameson at dial.pipex.com (Andrew Jameson)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 20:21:06 +0100
Subject: Nizhny Novgorod
Message-ID: <MON.19.JUL.1999.202106.0100.>

Dear Colleagues,
I joined Seelangs to find out exactly the type of information Professor
Szabo is asking for..!  I would not be disturbed to see the answers on
the list, rather I would be most interested and grateful.
Yours sincerely
Andrew Jameson
Chair, Russian Committee, ALL
Languages and Professional Development
1 Brook Street, Lancaster LA1 1SL UK
Tel: 01524 32371  (+44 1524 32371)

----------
> From: Michelle L. Szabo <mlszabo at hotmail.com>
> To: SEELANGS at CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
> Subject: Nizhny Novgorod
> Date: 17 July 1999 15:56
>
> Dear Seelangers
>
> I am heading to Nizhny Novgorod in the fall for the year and am wondering if
> anyone has any NN-specific advice or helpful hits they'd like to pass on. I
> haven't had very much luck finding info on the Web that isn't business
> related, although I have seen some nice pictures. I've spent a fair amount
> of time in the USSR and Russia, but it's been 5 years, and I have never been
> to NN. How's the water, for instance, and the condition of the Oka and the
> Volga in that area? Is there a better area of the city to find an apartment?
> Are European grocery stores still the only place to find Western grocery
> items? Is it possible to use ATMs with either a credit or a debit card; are
> there ATMs? When does the weather turn cold, how cold does it get, and when
> does it warm up again? I'm also planning on taking a laptop computer - will
> it be possible to get an internet provider (I'm obliged to have a phone in
> my apartment per the conditions of my fellowship)? What extra
> cords/cable/plugs/adapters would be recommended? Anyting else?
>
> So as not to burden everyone, please reply to me off-list. Thanks a lot. I
> hope everyone is having a great summer.
>
> Michelle Szabo
> mlszabo at hotmail.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________________________
> Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com


From alexush at paonline.com  Mon Jul 19 20:09:42 1999
From: alexush at paonline.com (Alexander Ushakov)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 16:09:42 -0400
Subject: Odessa
Message-ID: <MON.19.JUL.1999.160942.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

"Orfoepicheskiy Slovar' Rus. Yaz.", M, 78, gives both soft and hard 'e' as correct pronunciation, however, I must say that the hard one in this case is widely considered as uneducated (prostorechiye). In Ukrainian it's always a hard 'e' (more tense than Russian 'e oborotnoye'): Odesa.

Alex Ushakov

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Genevra Gerhart <ggerhart at wolfenet.com>
To: <SEELANGS at CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sent: Monday, July 19, 1999 1:18 PM
Subject: Odessa


> Dear Seelangers,
> 
> I have been told that Russians say "Odessa" with a hard e (e
> oborotnoye),and that Ukrainians use a soft e.
> The dictionary of stress insists that  the soft one is the right one,
> and further insists specifically that the hard one (e oborotnoye) is the
> wrong one. That specific denial suggests that there is more to the
> story.
> What do you know?
> And thanks for any help. gg
> --
> Genevra Gerhart
> http://www.wolfenet.com/~ggerhart/
> 
> 2134 E. Interlaken  Bl.                 Tel. 206/329-0053
> Seattle, WA  98112                      ggerhart at wolfenet.com
> 


From djbpitt+seelangs at pitt.edu  Mon Jul 19 22:16:02 1999
From: djbpitt+seelangs at pitt.edu (David J Birnbaum)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 18:16:02 -0400
Subject: aatseel web site (including conference information) back up
Message-ID: <MON.19.JUL.1999.181602.0400.DJBPITTSEELANGS@PITT.EDU>

Dear SEELANGers,

The AATSEEL Web Site, including the pages pertaining to the upcoming
Chicago Conference, is back in service. For the record:

general: http://clover.slavic.pitt.edu/~aatseel/

conference: http://clover.slavic.pitt.edu/~djb/aatseel.html

For those who missed my earlier announcement, the server was shut down for
almost two weeks for repairs. If you notice any lingering problems (such as
dead links), please let me know at djb at clover.slavic.pitt.edu .

With apologies for the inconvenience,

David (System Administrator)
________

Professor David J. Birnbaum
Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures
1417 Cathedral of Learning
University of Pittsburgh
Pittsburgh, PA 15260 USA
Voice: 1 412 624 5712
Fax: 1 412 624 9714
Email: djb at clover.slavic.pitt.edu
URL: http://clover.slavic.pitt.edu/~djb/


From yamato at yt.cache.waseda.ac.jp  Tue Jul 20 02:30:47 1999
From: yamato at yt.cache.waseda.ac.jp (Yoshimasa Tsuji)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:30:47 +0900
Subject: AlternativeCyrillicKeyboard
In-Reply-To: <SEELANGS%1999071911085856@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> (message from Daf on
 Thu, 15 Jul 1999 18:41:22 +0100)
Message-ID: <TUE.20.JUL.1999.113047.0900.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Daf <daf at meirionnydd.force9.co.uk> wrote
 >
 >One way round this is to purchase OUP Rus -Eng dictionary on CD. In my
 >experience this is not without bugs but is nevertheless useful and
 >installing it also seems to install the Times New Roman Cyrillic font. I
 >then copied all the stressed vowels from character map and I insert them by
 >find and replace. It sounds [well, is] longwinded but it does work. Of
 >course anyone needing to read your documents has to have that font.
 >Daf  [web page-http://www.meirionnydd.force9.co.uk]
 >

The point is not whether or not one can input or print accented
vowels. The point is that AFII, the international organization
for the character encoding standard, has not taken up the
issue and left all those characters un-encoded. In plain words,
one cannot possibly convey that one wants to say 'accented o',
for example. Both UNICODE and PostScript encodings register
Thita, Jat', Tenth I, and Izhica, but not any of the
accented vowels of Russian.
  If you have a font editor (such as Fontgrapher) and a keyboard
driver editor (such as Janko's), you can implement accented vowels
in your system, but that will remain a purely PRIVATE system,
with no capability to data exchange with others.
  Incidentally, Thita, Jat' etc. are registered by PostScript,
have AFII numbers and are found in some commercially available
digital fonts, but neither Macintosh Cyrillic nor Microsoft Cyrillic
encoding defines the exact code numbers for them.
  It is time for an academic organization to define a standard
for character encoding, which is too important for private
software firms to cope with. (The transliteration system was
defined by the Library of Congress and National Geographical
Association -- I am not sure of the exact name --, why specialists
of Russian don't play its role?)

Cheers,
Tsuji


------
As you know, there are contexts where one cannot guess whether 'chto' means
'that' or 'what' without the aid of an accent sign.


From lrc at mrminc.com  Tue Jul 20 13:22:09 1999
From: lrc at mrminc.com (LRC staff)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 09:22:09 -0400
Subject: Albanian Language...Help needed!
Message-ID: <TUE.20.JUL.1999.092209.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

We are about to publish an Albanian-English phrasebook ($20.00+/-). We also
have an Albanian Dictionary for $49.00 (hardbound, 978pp, 1998).

Please reply to Ms. Cybil Harris at hdqt at mrminc.com.

Please feel free to contact me at LRC at mrminc.com with questions.

David Russell
MRM Inc.

www.mrminc.com

>Dear Seelangers,
>
>This message came to me, but I can't be of assistance.  If you can help,
>please contact Wendy directly at buna at bc.sympatico.ca
>
>Thanks.
>
>>Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 22:43:33 -0700
>>From: Wendy Schweigert <buna at bc.sympatico.ca>
>>Reply-To: buna at bc.sympatico.ca
>>Subject: Albanian Language...Help needed!
>>
>>Hi,
>>       I found your name on the internet and decidec to write a note in the
>>faint hope that you may be able to help me.I am in the process of
>>helping a young couple from Kosovo.The wife has given birth to twins.
>>The twins are very small. They are arriving here on Tuesday July 20th.
>>They don't speak a word of english and I do not speak Albanian.
>>Translators are not easy to come by. Plus they are limited in the time
>>they can spend with this couple. My question to you is do you have
>>access to any good Albanian/ English phrase books? I have tried
>>everywhere I can think of!
>>               Hoping to hear good news,
>>                       Wendy
>
>
>***************************************************************************
>David J. Galloway
>Slavic Studies
>236 Goldwin Smith Hall
>Cornell University
>Ithaca, NY 14853
>Tel: (607) 255-8350
>Fax:  (607) 255-1454
>Email:  djg11 at cornell.edu
>
>AATSEEL Intensive Language Programs page:
>http://clover.slavic.pitt.edu/~aatseel/intensive-programs/index.html
>AATSEEL Endangered Programs page:
>http://clover.slavic.pitt.edu/~aatseel/endangered-programs/index.html


From evans-ro at oak.cats.ohiou.edu  Tue Jul 20 15:23:50 1999
From: evans-ro at oak.cats.ohiou.edu (Karen Evans-Romaine)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:23:50 -0400
Subject: AATSEEL abstract deadline
Message-ID: <TUE.20.JUL.1999.112350.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

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From townsend at phoenix.Princeton.EDU  Tue Jul 20 19:51:21 1999
From: townsend at phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Charles Townsend)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 15:51:21 -0400
Subject: AATSEEL abstract deadline
Message-ID: <TUE.20.JUL.1999.155121.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

>Dear SEELANGers:
>
>On behalf of the AATSEEL Program Committee, I would like to remind you
>that Sunday, August 1, 1999, is the second and final deadline for
>submission of abstracts of papers to be given at the AATSEEL Annual
>Meeting in Chicago (27-30 December 1999).
>
>For information regarding
>
>-- the call for papers for the conference,
>-- guidelines for abstracts, and
>-- the names and addresses of individuals to to whom abstracts should be sent,
>
>please consult the February 1999 issue of the AATSEEL Newsletter
>
>or the AATSEEL Conference Web page at
>
>http://clover.slavic.pitt.edu/~djb/aatseel.html
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Karen Evans-Romaine
>

Dear Ms. Evans-Romaine,

        I already sent my abstract in months ago and it was accepted.  Can
I assume nothing more is needed and that I will hear further news from the
panel heads (Ben Rivkin and Yelena Belyaeva and, I guess, the general
coordinator, Jane Hacking).

        Sincerely,

        Charles E. Townsend


From Mogens.Jensen at skolekom.dk  Tue Jul 20 20:52:59 1999
From: Mogens.Jensen at skolekom.dk (Mogens Jensen)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 22:52:59 +0200
Subject: AlternativeCyrillicKeyboard
In-Reply-To: <199907200230.LAA07388@tsuji.yt.cache.waseda.ac.jp>
Message-ID: <TUE.20.JUL.1999.225259.0200.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Tsuji has hit the point - well written ! - We have made our unicode fonts
the way, that we have stolen the unicodes from the macedonian, serbian aso
special chars for the accentuated vowels. And then it works. It is
efficient, but not beautiful. I support Tsujis suggestion. Best wishes,
Mogens Jensen.

yamato at yt.cache.waseda.ac.jp writes:
>Daf <daf at meirionnydd.force9.co.uk> wrote
> >
> >One way round this is to purchase OUP Rus -Eng dictionary on CD. In my
> >experience this is not without bugs but is nevertheless useful and
> >installing it also seems to install the Times New Roman Cyrillic font. I
> >then copied all the stressed vowels from character map and I insert
>them by
> >find and replace. It sounds [well, is] longwinded but it does work. Of
> >course anyone needing to read your documents has to have that font.
> >Daf  [web page-http://www.meirionnydd.force9.co.uk]
> >
>
>The point is not whether or not one can input or print accented
>vowels. The point is that AFII, the international organization
>for the character encoding standard, has not taken up the
>issue and left all those characters un-encoded. In plain words,
>one cannot possibly convey that one wants to say 'accented o',
>for example. Both UNICODE and PostScript encodings register
>Thita, Jat', Tenth I, and Izhica, but not any of the
>accented vowels of Russian.
>  If you have a font editor (such as Fontgrapher) and a keyboard
>driver editor (such as Janko's), you can implement accented vowels
>in your system, but that will remain a purely PRIVATE system,
>with no capability to data exchange with others.
>  Incidentally, Thita, Jat' etc. are registered by PostScript,
>have AFII numbers and are found in some commercially available
>digital fonts, but neither Macintosh Cyrillic nor Microsoft Cyrillic
>encoding defines the exact code numbers for them.
>  It is time for an academic organization to define a standard
>for character encoding, which is too important for private
>software firms to cope with. (The transliteration system was
>defined by the Library of Congress and National Geographical
>Association -- I am not sure of the exact name --, why specialists
>of Russian don't play its role?)
>
>Cheers,
>Tsuji
>
>
>------
>As you know, there are contexts where one cannot guess whether 'chto'
>means
>'that' or 'what' without the aid of an accent sign.


From mllemily at acsu.buffalo.edu  Tue Jul 20 21:26:09 1999
From: mllemily at acsu.buffalo.edu (Emily Tall)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:26:09 -0400
Subject: language for Russian adoptees
Message-ID: <TUE.20.JUL.1999.172609.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

A woman who is adopting two Russian girls, 6 and 7 years old, was
wondering if she will be needing much (some? any?) Russian or if they will
learn English so fast it won't be necessary. She's made some inquiries but
it seems that most people adopt babies, so the problem doesn't arise. It
seems to me that the kids would be much happier if they could speak
Russian with someone in the beginning. On the other hand, I do know that
kids that age learn a new language very quickly. Do any of you have any
advice I could pass on to her? Thanks! (I'm sure if you said it was
crucial that someone in the family speak Russian then she (or another
family member) would put
in the necessary effort. Emily Tall, SUNY/Buffalo


From townsend at phoenix.Princeton.EDU  Wed Jul 21 00:44:25 1999
From: townsend at phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Charles Townsend)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:44:25 -0400
Subject: AATSEEL abstract deadline
Message-ID: <TUE.20.JUL.1999.204425.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

>>Dear SEELANGers:
>>
>>On behalf of the AATSEEL Program Committee, I would like to remind you
>>that Sunday, August 1, 1999, is the second and final deadline for
>>submission of abstracts of papers to be given at the AATSEEL Annual
>>Meeting in Chicago (27-30 December 1999).
>>
>>For information regarding
>>
>>-- the call for papers for the conference,
>>-- guidelines for abstracts, and
>>-- the names and addresses of individuals to to whom abstracts should be sent,
>>
>>please consult the February 1999 issue of the AATSEEL Newsletter
>>
>>or the AATSEEL Conference Web page at
>>
>>http://clover.slavic.pitt.edu/~djb/aatseel.html
>>
>>Sincerely,
>>
>>Karen Evans-Romaine
>>
>
>Dear Ms. Evans-Romaine,
>
>        I already sent my abstract in months ago and it was accepted.  Can
>I assume nothing more is needed and that I will hear further news from the
>panel heads (Ben Rivkin and Yelena Belyaeva and, I guess, the general
>coordinator, Jane Hacking).
>
>        Sincerely,
>
>        Charles E. Townsend


From dpbrowne+ at pitt.edu  Wed Jul 21 12:04:26 1999
From: dpbrowne+ at pitt.edu (Devin P Browne)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 08:04:26 -0400
Subject: language for Russian adoptees
In-Reply-To: <199907210403.AAA09651@post-ofc02.srv.cis.pitt.edu>
Message-ID: <WED.21.JUL.1999.080426.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

I was asked to help a little girl a few years ago who's parents were
concerned she wasn't picking up English fast enough.  She was 5 when they
adopted her and was the sweetest thing.  However, "fast enough" ended up
being pretty subjective.  The parents were getting frustrated, but the
girl's acquisition of English was coming along just fine.  Tell them to
expect to be frustrated but to be patient.  It may take a little longer
since they have each other to speak Russian with, but putting them into
social situations more often (once they are comfortable with it) will help
them to pick up English more quickly.  Also, tell the mother to check into
ESL services that must be offered by the school -- a good ESL trainer in
an elementary school can really help in these kinds of transitions.

Devin / Divan

Devin P Browne
dpbrowne+ at pitt.edu


From colkitto at sprint.ca  Thu Jul 22 12:34:00 1999
From: colkitto at sprint.ca (Robert Orr)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 08:34:00 -0400
Subject: language for Russian adoptees
Message-ID: <THU.22.JUL.1999.083400.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

And this may sound like going against the tide of educational theory, but
exposure to massive amounts of TV in English can't hurt, in this context.

Robert Orr

-----Original Message-----
From: Devin P Browne <dpbrowne+ at pitt.edu>
To: SEELANGS at CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU <SEELANGS at CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: language for Russian adoptees


>I was asked to help a little girl a few years ago who's parents were
>concerned she wasn't picking up English fast enough.  She was 5 when they
>adopted her and was the sweetest thing.  However, "fast enough" ended up
>being pretty subjective.  The parents were getting frustrated, but the
>girl's acquisition of English was coming along just fine.  Tell them to
>expect to be frustrated but to be patient.  It may take a little longer
>since they have each other to speak Russian with, but putting them into
>social situations more often (once they are comfortable with it) will help
>them to pick up English more quickly.  Also, tell the mother to check into
>ESL services that must be offered by the school -- a good ESL trainer in
>an elementary school can really help in these kinds of transitions.
>
>Devin / Divan
>
>Devin P Browne
>dpbrowne+ at pitt.edu
>


From drannie_98 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 21 12:20:36 1999
From: drannie_98 at yahoo.com (Andrea Nelson)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 08:20:36 -0400
Subject: language for Russian adoptees
Message-ID: <WED.21.JUL.1999.082036.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Emily and SEELANGERS:

I recently returned from Saint Petersburg via London.  On the airplane, actually
 on the bus from
Gatwick to Heathrow, I sat next to an American with two girls about the same age
 that you
mentioned in your email.  He didn't know Russian.  Well.  Just a few words.
 They didn't know
English.  The girls were charming and I asked if I could be of assistance.  The
 girls and I spoke
a bit.  But the group seemed to be doing fine on their own.  But I had the exact
 same lingering
concern.  How would they do once they arrived in San Diego, their final
 destination.  Especially
in terms of language.

As far as I know from the second language acquisition literature which relates
 specifically to
children, they should probably have some difficulty but adjust eventually.  We
 all learn our
native language almost completely by the age of 5.  However, the "critical
 period hypothesis,"
which has been proposed to address the issue of age and second language
 acquisition, proposes that
the preadolesent period is okay but after puberty things get a bit more
 difficult.  This is just
an hypothesis and there is no hard and fast theory let alone factors which may
 be said to be
implicated absolutely in second language acquisition in terms of age.  However,
 in my opinion,
these girls will be fine in terms of their acquisition of the English language.

I think more than anything it will probably be an issue of culture shock and the
 social adjustment
this will entail for these two orphaned girls being taken from the former Soviet
 Union to the
United States.  I'm not a social worker, but I think that, in contrast to a
 whole family who comes
to live in the United States together (as is the case with emigrees) these two
 girls are going to
have adjustments to make.  But bear in mind they also have each other!  However,
 once in a loving
home, they might teach their adoptive parents some Russian.  And most certainly
 once they are in
school and start making friends they will begin to learn English.  The peer
 group, as far as I
understand from the literature, is very important in this regard, especially
 with school-aged
children.

May I suggest that you post your question to the SLART-L?  This is a listserv
 connected to over
700 specialists in second language acquisition worldwide.  The acronym stands
 for the Second
Language Acquisition and Research on Teaching List.  If you look it up as an
 acronym on any
standard search engine you should find out either how to sign up or how to just
 post one message
to the list.  My area of specialization is Russian second language acquisition
 in adult learners,
and therefore I think you'll find more and perhaps more accurate information
 from someone on this
list than from me.

Best,

Andrea Nelson

--- Emily Tall <mllemily at acsu.buffalo.edu> wrote:
> A woman who is adopting two Russian girls, 6 and 7 years old, was
> wondering if she will be needing much (some? any?) Russian or if they will
> learn English so fast it won't be necessary. She's made some inquiries but
> it seems that most people adopt babies, so the problem doesn't arise. It
> seems to me that the kids would be much happier if they could speak
> Russian with someone in the beginning. On the other hand, I do know that
> kids that age learn a new language very quickly. Do any of you have any
> advice I could pass on to her? Thanks! (I'm sure if you said it was
> crucial that someone in the family speak Russian then she (or another
> family member) would put
> in the necessary effort. Emily Tall, SUNY/Buffalo
>

===
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800 Martin Avenue
Bryn Mawr, PA 19010 USA
610-525-0541
email:   drannie_98 at yahoo.com
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From Mourka1 at aol.com  Wed Jul 21 12:29:49 1999
From: Mourka1 at aol.com (Margarita Meyendorff)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 08:29:49 EDT
Subject: language for Russian adoptees
Message-ID: <WED.21.JUL.1999.082949.EDT.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Emily and fellow Seelanger,

I have worked with people that have adopted Russian children who were older
and my feeling is that it is very important for the child to have someone who
they can speak to in their native tongue.  It is important for their security
and development.  It is true that they learn English very quickly, but that
is a survival instinct and I believe the transition into English is enhanced
if the child is secure in himself and in his own language.  Does that help?
If there are any other questions that arise, let me know and I'll try to
answer them.  You can write me off list.

Mourka


From drannie_98 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 21 14:00:15 1999
From: drannie_98 at yahoo.com (Andrea Nelson)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:00:15 -0400
Subject: encyclopedias
Message-ID: <WED.21.JUL.1999.100015.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Dear SEELANGERS,

Trivia questions.

1)  What is the most recent edition of the Bol'shaia Sovetskaia Entsiklopediia?
(obviously may not have Sovetskaia in the title but might)

2)  Is the Bol'shaia Sovetskaia referred to under another name commonly?
(like if you tell someone in Russian to go to the X or look up something in the
 X?)

3)  Is the prerevolutionary set of volumes entitled Entsiklopedicheskii Slovar',
 begun
in the latter part of the 19th century, considered an encylopedia or a
 dictionary or both and

4)  Is #3 considered the precursor to the Bol'shaia Sovetskaia?


Thanks,

Andrea Nelson


===
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800 Martin Avenue
Bryn Mawr, PA 19010 USA
610-525-0541
email:   drannie_98 at yahoo.com
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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com


From lisa.mc at mail.utexas.edu  Wed Jul 21 21:32:00 1999
From: lisa.mc at mail.utexas.edu (Mary Elizabeth McLendon)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:32:00 -0400
Subject: SEEJ books-for-review update
Message-ID: <WED.21.JUL.1999.173200.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Sibelan,
I have ordered this book (packet) from RIS and would be happy to review it
for SEEJ once I get it.  I know it's not on the list, but it might be
something people would be interested in (plus, I've already paid for it so
you don't need to worry about getting it and sending it out).

"THROUGH RUSSIAN EYES

Announcing a brand-new secondary school curriculum for teaching about Russia -
designed and written by 15 Russian educators for their American counterparts.

After teaching for five months in American schools, these 15 Russian educators
compiled this book, including everything American secondary teachers need to
introduce their students to Russian history, culture, society and art.

Includes 10 lesson plans on literature, recent economic and political changes,
folk customs, history, the arts, architecture, the Russian character, and more!
The curriculum is designed to last 2 to 4 weeks of class time. Includes a
full-color, bilingual wall map, 17 slides and nearly a dozen handouts!

This is the first and only curriculum of its type! Available only through the
publisher, RIS Publications, publishers of Russian Life magazine."

Let me know.
Lisa McLendon


From natalia.pylypiuk at ualberta.ca  Thu Jul 22 04:19:04 1999
From: natalia.pylypiuk at ualberta.ca (Natalia Pylypiuk)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 22:19:04 -0600
Subject: Canadian Slavonic Papers
In-Reply-To: <v03007804b3ba41efdbe1@[132.235.81.100]>
Message-ID: <WED.21.JUL.1999.221904.0600.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Colleagues,

We have recently posted a new list of books that need reviewers for Canadian
Slavonic Papers. It can be found at our website:

http://www.ualberta.ca/~csp

It is rather a short list this time, but you may want to wander through
earlier lists (links at the bottom of the page) and see if there is
something else there that might strike your fancy.

Book reviews are generally 500-800 words long, and are expected from 6 to 8
weeks after receipt of the book.

Good hunting!

Yours,

Gust Olson
Asst. Editor, Canadian Slavonic Papers

**************************************
Natalia Pylypiuk, Associate Professor
Modern Languages & Cultural Studies
Book Review Editor, Canadian Slavonic Papers
200 Arts Building,  University of Alberta
Edmonton, Alberta  T6G 2E6  CANADA

**************************************
voice mail:            (780)  492 - 3498
departmental fax:  (780)  492 - 9106


http://www.arts.ualberta.ca/~ukraina/Homepage.html

Canadian Slavonic Papers' URL:
http://www.ualberta.ca/~csp
**************************************


From sandl at compuserve.com  Thu Jul 22 07:14:10 1999
From: sandl at compuserve.com (Sandra Layman)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 03:14:10 -0400
Subject: language for Russian adoptees
Message-ID: <THU.22.JUL.1999.031410.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

I can't address the issue of Russian adoptees directly, but maybe this
anecdote will be of interest.

Some two years ago, I was contacted by an American couple planning to adopt
a (then) 8- or 9-year-old boy from a children's home in Romania. The
prospective mom and dad felt strongly that they should be able immediately
to communicate with their child and were willing to invest in regular
tutoring (once or twice a week) to learn Romanian.

Meanwhile, the adoption took almost a year to be arranged and approved.
I believe the boy was almost ten when the adoption was finalized almost one
year ago.

Every so often since then, I've talked to the couple, and their son, by
phone.
The parents feel that their ability to speak and understand Romanian, even
if it was broken or rudimentary at times, was crucial during the first
period with their new son.
(They'd been learning some fun expressions and colloquialisms, too, which
incidentally also seemed to charm their adult contacts in Romania as well.)

Apparently, for months now the boy has been wanting to speak only English.
The parents are the ones speaking Romanian so that their son won't
completely forget it. :-)
I'm told that he's been doing well in school and has advanced the
equivalent of several grades in his English-language reading ability (he
had never been read to in the Romanian children's home) and in his math
skills.
Not only that, but he's been taking Spanish, too.

A separate mailing list exists for adoptive parents of children from
Romania, so there's probably such a list for  parents adopting kids from
Russia. That would probably be a good resource, although I suspect that not
all couples in the U.S., alas, are as sensitive to the language issue as
the people I had the pleasure of tutoring.

Best of luck,

Sandra Layman
Romanian/English interpreter
Translator specializing in Romanian into English
sandL at compuserve.com


From townsend at phoenix.Princeton.EDU  Thu Jul 22 15:51:36 1999
From: townsend at phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Charles Townsend)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:51:36 -0400
Subject: Canadian Slavonic Papers
Message-ID: <THU.22.JUL.1999.115136.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Prof. Pylypiuk,

        I just visited the website you gave in your e-mail for a lists of
books Canadian Slavonic Papers might want reviewed and found no information
and no list.  It may be due to my poor technology, but I did get the Papers
with various options, tried them all and found nothing.  Thought you might
like to know.

        Sincerelyl

        Charles E. Townsend
        Princeton University


From guilin at ix.netcom.com  Thu Jul 22 21:22:04 1999
From: guilin at ix.netcom.com (Richard Yokomi)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:22:04 -0500
Subject: new interface for DDP German_English dictionary
Message-ID: <THU.22.JUL.1999.162204.0500.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Hi
I'd like to introduce a new interface for the Dutch Dictionary
Project's German_English dictionary.
Please look at our homepage at...

http://pw2.netcom.com/~guilin/defhome.html

and give us your impressions.
Thanks
Richard Yokomi


From mllemily at acsu.buffalo.edu  Thu Jul 22 21:41:09 1999
From: mllemily at acsu.buffalo.edu (Emily Tall)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:41:09 -0400
Subject: housing in Sofia
Message-ID: <THU.22.JUL.1999.174109.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

A friend and his wife are going to Sofia on a Fulbright and would like to
find a furnished apartment (they smoke, but in Bulgaria maybe that's not a
problem). If anyone has any advice/leads, please communicate directly to
michael_dumanis at hotmail.com
Thanks! Emily Tall


From pjanssen at randomhouse.com  Fri Jul 23 02:37:25 1999
From: pjanssen at randomhouse.com (Peter Janssen)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 22:37:25 EDT
Subject: Nadezhda Mandelstam
Message-ID: <THU.22.JUL.1999.223725.EDT.>

I wanted to write and let you know that Modern Library has reissued
Nadezhda Mandelstam's classic work HOPE AGAINST HOPE ("Surely one of the
most powerful, moving, and important memoirs of the century"--Francine
Prose).

HOPE AGAINST HOPE is one of the greatest testaments to the value of
literature and imaginative freedom ever written. Now restored to print,
this is perhaps the most powerful account of life in Stalin's Russia ever
written.  A harrowing memoir that recounts Mandelstam's last years with her
husband, the poet Osip Mandelstam, it begins with his first arrest in 1934
and ends with his final incarceration in 1938, at the end of the Great
Purges.  Marked by a gut-wrenching immediacy, the book brings to life the
vibrant Russian intelligentsia of the time--among others, we meet Anna
Akhmatova, Boris Pasternak, Maxim Gorky, Ilia Ehrenburg, and Mikhail
Bulgakov--as well as Stalin and members of his inner circle.  At the heart
of the story is Osip's decision not to compromise with a ruthless system;
he consciously chooses martyrdom by denouncing Stalin in a poem.  As she
provides a background to this act of defiance, Mandelstam offers unique
insight into the terror state and the psychology of mass complicity,
showing how an inner freedom in Stalin's Russia could only be purchased by
death.

Joseph Brodsky wrote that it "amount[s] to a Day of Judgement on earth for
her age," adding, "her memoirs are something more than a testimony to her
times; they are a view of history in the light of conscience and culture."

"HOPE AGAINST HOPE is at once a love story, an unblinking account of the
decimation of a culture, and a luminous inquiry into what it means to be
human.... Nadezhda Mandelstam's unswerving, unquestioned commitment to
spiritual presence and witness answers a hunger we've almost forgotten we
possess, and proves a startling antidote to the trivialization of meaning
and relationship so endemic in current American life.... In preserving
[Osip's] work, she fought to preserve witness to a people and culture
nearly obliterated by the paroxysms of history, and to protect the human
voice itself."
--Jayne Anne Phillips, Book Forum

For more information, please visit:
http://www.randomhouse.com/catalog/display.cgi?0375753168

Translated by Max Hayward with Introductions by Clarence Brown and Joseph
Brodsky.

Professors: For examination copies, please email acmart at randomhouse.com


From aisrael at american.edu  Fri Jul 23 17:12:14 1999
From: aisrael at american.edu (Alina Israeli)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:12:14 -0400
Subject: International Conference
Message-ID: <FRI.23.JUL.1999.131214.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

---------------------- Forwarded message ----------------------


> Dear Colleagues:
>
> We are pleased to re-inform you that FESU International Programs
> Department sent out invitations for the International Conference
"Studying
> the Russian Language and Culture in the APR countries" to be held
> September 6 - 12, 1999 in Vladivostok (Russia). Did you receive our
> invitations?
>
> August 15, 1999 is a deadline for the conference application and
> submission of abstracts. If you cannot be present at the conference in
> person, your abstracts or papers will be of great value to those
> participating. A volume of the proceedings will be published consisting
of
> a general review of the conference, a list of participants, the plenary
> papers as well as those of invited speakers and so called
> distance-participants. The following specialists are invited to be
plenary
> speakers and discussion group leaders: Prof. Victor V. Molchanovsky,
> Dr.Sc. (Pedagogy), A.S. Pushkin's Institute of the Russian Language
> (Moscow, Russia), and Prof. Tatiana I. Popova, ), Cand.Sc. (Philology),
> St.-Petersburg State University (St.-Petersburg, Russia).
>
> It would be highly appreciated if you confirm whether you decline or
> accept our invitation to participate in the above conference.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Conference Organizing Committee
>
> http://www.dvgu.ru/dip/News/IndxNews.htm
> Department of International Programs
> Far Eastern State University
> Aleutskaya st., 56
> Vladivostok,_ 690600 Russsia
> Tel: +7(4232)255929
> Fax: +7(4232)257200
> mailto://Office at dip.dvgu.ru
> mailto://Chugueva at dip.dvgu.ru
> http://www.dvgu.ru/dip/

**************************************************************
Alina Israeli
LFS, American University                phone:  (202) 885-2387
4400 Mass. Ave., NW                     fax:    (202) 885-1076
Washington, DC 20016

aisrael at american.edu


From townsend at phoenix.Princeton.EDU  Fri Jul 23 18:06:50 1999
From: townsend at phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Charles Townsend)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 14:06:50 -0400
Subject: International Conference
Message-ID: <FRI.23.JUL.1999.140650.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Alina Israeli,

Sorry, can't participate, too expensive to get to Vladivostok.  Thanks for
inviting me.

        Sincerely,

        Charles Townsend
        Professor and Chair of Slavic Languages
        Princeton University


From aimee.m.roebuck1 at jsc.nasa.gov  Fri Jul 23 18:28:10 1999
From: aimee.m.roebuck1 at jsc.nasa.gov (ROEBUCK, AIMEE M. (JSC-AH))
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:28:10 -0500
Subject: New Russian Orthography
Message-ID: <FRI.23.JUL.1999.132810.0500.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

One of my students has a English-Russian/Russian-English dictionary from
1944 edited by M.A. O'Brien.  It uses "New Official Orthography", which
seems to put an apostrophe in place of the hard sign in the Russian word.
An example of this is ob'qsnit; (ob'jasnit') instead of ob=qsnit;
(ob"jasnit').  Does anyone have information about if and/or when this
orthography was used widely?

Thank you in advance,
Aimee Roebuck
aroebuck at ems.jsc.nasa.gov


From Gottscha at actr.org  Fri Jul 23 18:59:21 1999
From: Gottscha at actr.org (Kate Gottschall)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 14:59:21 -0400
Subject: Job openings with ACTR/ACCELS
Message-ID: <FRI.23.JUL.1999.145921.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

The American Councils for International Education: ACTR/ACCELS

NOTICE OF POSITIONS OPENING
_________________________________________________________
The American Councils is currently seeking candidates for the positions
below.  To apply, send a letter of application stating the position sought,
resume, and salary requirements to:  Human Resources, American
Councils for International Education: ACTR/ACCELS, 1776
Massachusetts Avenue, N.W., Suite 700, Washington, DC, 20036.  Fax:
202-872-9178.  For more information about specific American Councils
programs and employment opportunities in the US and abroad, visit our
web site at:  www.actr.org.
__________________________________________________________
Country Director
Minsk, Belarus
__________________________________________________________

The Country Director is responsible for maintaining American Councils'
external relations in Belarus, overseeing internal operations, providing
overall supervision of ACTR/ACCELS programs in country, and
cultivating new program development.  In this capacity, the Country
Director position reports to the NIS Regional Director and
Washington-based Vice President and works in cooperation with
Washington-based program managers.

Qualifications:

Fluency in Russian or national language;
Bachelor's degree (graduate degree preferred) -- related to region in:
economics, international education or development, history, Russian, or
related area;
Professional-level program management experience;
Overseas work/living experience, preferably in the applicable region;
Demonstrated interest in the applicable region;
Supervisory experience; supervising foreign national staff preferred;
Cross-cultural skills; and
Strong written and oral communication skills (English, Russian and/or
national language)
__________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________

Participant Recruiter for Teacher Programs
Moscow, Russia
__________________________________________________________
The six-month Recuiter position serves as an American Councils
program representative for Teacher programs throughout Russia and is
responsible for all aspects of participant recruitment including:
advertising competitions; making presentations before potential
candidates; conducting prerequisite testing and interviewing; and
associated recordkeeping.  The Recruiter must also interact with local
governmental and educational officials at all levels in disseminating
information about the programs and coordinating testing processes.  The
position reports to the Moscow-based Program Officer for Teacher
Programs.

Qualifications:
Program administration experience;
Fluent in Russian language;
Experience traveling extensively under difficult conditions;
Experience in budget oversight; and
BA in relevant field (e.g. Russian language, Russian area studies,
education, etc.) required; advanced degree preferred.
__________________________________________________________
_________________________________________________________

Participant Recruiter - Freedom Support Act Future Leaders Exchange
Program (FSAFLEX)
Minsk, Belarus; Moscow, Russia (multiple positions)
__________________________________________________________
The four-month Recuiter position serves as the American Councils
program representative in the region and is responsible for all aspects of
participant recruitment including:  advertising competitions; interviewing
candidates; conducting prerequisite testing; and associated
recordkeeping.  The Recruiter must also interact with local governmental
and educational officials at all levels in disseminating information about
the programs and coordinating testing process.  The position reports to
the country program hub director and/or the Moscow administrative
officers.

Qualifications:
Program administration experience;
Fluent in Russian and/or regional languages;
Experience traveling extensively under difficult conditions;
Experience in budget management;
BA in relevant field (e.g. Russian language, Russian area studies,
education, etc.) required; advanced degree preferred
__________________________________________________________
The American Councils for International Education: ACTR/ACCELS is a
private, non-profit educational association and exchange organization
devoted to improving education, professional training and research
within and regarding the former Soviet Union (FSU).  The American
Councils administers academic exchange and training programs in
virtually all fields; provides educational advising and academic testing
services throughout the NIS; and organizes conferences and seminars in
the US and abroad for its membership, exchange participants, alumni,
and professional groups.  The American Councils maintains an operating
budget of over $50M, employs a staff of more than 250, and operates
offices in 12 countries of the FSU.


From yamato at yt.cache.waseda.ac.jp  Sat Jul 24 10:49:56 1999
From: yamato at yt.cache.waseda.ac.jp (Yoshimasa Tsuji)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 19:49:56 +0900
Subject: New Russian Orthography
In-Reply-To: <A1F9D6905A28D011857D0020AFFC091903639409@jsc-ems-mbs04.jsc.nasa.gov>
 (aimee.m.roebuck1@jsc.nasa.gov)
Message-ID: <SAT.24.JUL.1999.194956.0900.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Hello,
I dealt with this problem here a few months ago.
Using apostrophe or double quote as a hard sign is not a "new"
spelling: it should be considered as a variation of GRAPHICAL
representation. Just think how many times Soviet children
were taught of the "new" handwriting style in the last 80 years.
  I should say that whether apostrophe was a better choice than
a double quote is a purely useless discussion: they are both
poor inventions and should be avoided.
  The reason why apostrophe was chosen as an ersatz is that
at that time guillemets were not easily available (e.g. type-
writers didn't have them) and the quotation was realized in such
a way as beginning with the lowered double quote and terminating
with the double quote at normal position. There was a possibility
to use raised commas as a terminator of a quote, but it would
have been funny in that its right and left was the other way round.
Anyway, if a printer had guillemets (<<, >> things), double quote
could be used as a hard sign, otherwise an apostrophe.
  I don't think there ever was a law enforcement to throw away
hard sign types after November 1918, but there nearly was.
The reform of 1956 seems to have restored the use of hard sign
types in schools and mass media. It is interesting some Russians
still write double quote in place of a hard sign. They seem to write
double primes (which is not roundish) for a hard sign, making
distinction from quotes which they write small
  nine-nine(lowered) ... six-six(raised).

  Talking of the Russian types, I would like to remind you of
the fate of "yo". Its usage was much encouraged in 1940's and
1950's but it looks it faded away in 1960's. It is a very
sad thing, isn't it? as I so often hear people from republics
(even Russians) pronounce "e" instead of "yo" when the word
is a bit obscure. Everyone is aware of the need to have the opposition
of vsjo  and vse. The latter ended with a jat', without which the
former definitely needs a trema!
  The correct spelling is always an unwanted burden for the writer,
but is a great comfort for the reader as it helps one to readily
understand the text. (Incidentally, I am opposed to teaching
"correct spelling" to school children -- it should be left to professional
copy editors, instead).

with best wishes,
Tsuji

------
If you are interested in the changes of official orthography
of the Russian language, just collect "Orfographicheskij
slovar' russkogo jazyka" for the years concerned. It has been revised
almost every year. The preface usually mentions recent changes.


From Lozansky at aol.com  Sat Jul 24 18:13:17 1999
From: Lozansky at aol.com (Edward D. Lozansky)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 14:13:17 EDT
Subject: Conference on Russia in Warsaw
Message-ID: <SAT.24.JUL.1999.141317.EDT.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

If you want to be removed from this list for people interested in Russian
affairs please click reply and type remove. Sorry for disturbing.

        PLEASE POST AND FORWARD TO YOUR COLLEAGUES

Final Announcement and Call for Papers

                4th International Conference on
                PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE OF RUSSIA
                September 24 - 26, 1999 Warsaw, Poland

                Dedicated to Editor-in-Chief of Magazine Kontinent
                Vladimir Maximov

Organized by

Kontinent Magazine
Russia House, Warsaw
University of Warsaw
Russian Academy of Sciences
American University in Moscow

Leading cultural, political, and literary figures from Russia and the West
are invited to Warsaw to analyze the current situation in Russia and to
discuss the future of its democratic reforms.  This conference is dedicated
to Editor-in-Chief of Magazine Kontinent Vladimir Maximov.

Program will feature the following plenary and concurrent sessions on Russia:

Literature and Culture
Foreign Policy and National Security
Economics and Environment
Crime and Law

1st Conference took place in Paris in 1996, 2nd - in Moscow in 1997, 3rd - in
Washington in 1998, and 4th will be held in Warsaw  September 24 - 26, 1999.

Conference proceedings will be published as a special volume of Kontinent.

KONTINENT is widely recognized as one of the best Russian magazines in the
world. It is the magazine of the spiritual and cultural revival of Russia,
its formation as a new great democratic state, as a country of rich
traditions and contemporary culture.

Those interested in participating with or without a paper should fill out the
form below and mail, fax or e-mail it to:

Dr. Edward Lozansky
President, American University in Moscow
1800 Connecticut Avenue, NW
Washington, D.C. 20009
Tel. 202-986-6010, Fax 202-667-4244 E-mail: Lozansky at aol.com

Registration form


Last_____________________________First_________________________

Organization____________________________________________________

Address_________________________________________________________

City____________________State_________Zip_______Country__________

Phone____________________Fax________________E-mail_______________

$300 registration fee which covers conference materials, opening reception on
September 24 and closing banquet on September 26 can be paid by check, wired
or charged to a credit card.

Wiring Instructions

Riggs National Bank
Washington, D.C.
ABA 054000030
Beneficiary: Kontinent
Account 17046187

If paying by credit card, please fill out below:
__Visa__Mastercard__American Express

Account Number___________________________Expiration___________

Amount $_______Signature______________________________________

For additional information please visit our website: www.RussiaHouse.org


From peter.rolland at ualberta.ca  Sat Jul 24 13:25:24 1999
From: peter.rolland at ualberta.ca (peter rolland)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 14:25:24 +0100
Subject: Seeking two books
Message-ID: <SAT.24.JUL.1999.142524.0100.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

I need to acquire a hard copy of  -Kharlampovich, Malorossijskoe vlijanie
na velikorusskuju cerkovnuju                    zhizn.(at reasonable cost)
and a microfilm or photocopy of -  Pisma Lazarja Baranovicha, both of which
I know are hard to
find. Can anyone help me out ( Particularly with the latter)? Reply to me at:
peter. rolland @ ualberta.ca


From BrianLeh at aol.com  Sun Jul 25 05:58:27 1999
From: BrianLeh at aol.com (Brian K. Lehmann)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 01:58:27 EDT
Subject: help for a novice
Message-ID: <SUN.25.JUL.1999.015827.EDT.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Hello!

What is the best way to "russify"?  I am a novice on the computer and on the
net and would appreciate some simple, step by step instructions on how to
russify.  Any advice would be much appreciated.

Brian Lehmann
Brianleh at aol.com


From kaunas4 at compuserve.com  Sun Jul 25 13:02:13 1999
From: kaunas4 at compuserve.com (richard tomback)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 09:02:13 -0400
Subject: assistance request
Message-ID: <SUN.25.JUL.1999.090213.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Dear SEELANGERS;
                                       Could someone advise me where I may
locate
a used [or new] copy of  Horace G. Lunt  -  Old Church Slavonic Grammar and
his  book  on Medieval Russian. I am also interested in a reliable source
for books in the Serbian language.
                                                                    
Thanks,
                                                                    
Richard Tomback
                                                                    
Kaunas4 at compuserve.com


From kchristians at tntech.edu  Sun Jul 25 03:49:38 1999
From: kchristians at tntech.edu (Kevin Christianson)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 22:49:38 -0500
Subject: Conference on Russia in Warsaw
Message-ID: <SAT.24.JUL.1999.224938.0500.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

remove
-----Original Message-----
From: Edward D. Lozansky <Lozansky at aol.com>
To: SEELANGS at CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU <SEELANGS at CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Date: Saturday, July 24, 1999 1:45 PM
Subject: Conference on Russia in Warsaw


>If you want to be removed from this list for people interested in Russian
>affairs please click reply and type remove. Sorry for disturbing.
>
>        PLEASE POST AND FORWARD TO YOUR COLLEAGUES
>
>Final Announcement and Call for Papers
>
>                4th International Conference on
>                PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE OF RUSSIA
>                September 24 - 26, 1999 Warsaw, Poland
>
>                Dedicated to Editor-in-Chief of Magazine Kontinent
>                Vladimir Maximov
>
>Organized by
>
>Kontinent Magazine
>Russia House, Warsaw
>University of Warsaw
>Russian Academy of Sciences
>American University in Moscow
>
>Leading cultural, political, and literary figures from Russia and the West
>are invited to Warsaw to analyze the current situation in Russia and to
>discuss the future of its democratic reforms.  This conference is dedicated
>to Editor-in-Chief of Magazine Kontinent Vladimir Maximov.
>
>Program will feature the following plenary and concurrent sessions on
Russia:
>
>Literature and Culture
>Foreign Policy and National Security
>Economics and Environment
>Crime and Law
>
>1st Conference took place in Paris in 1996, 2nd - in Moscow in 1997, 3rd -
in
>Washington in 1998, and 4th will be held in Warsaw  September 24 - 26,
1999.
>
>Conference proceedings will be published as a special volume of Kontinent.
>
>KONTINENT is widely recognized as one of the best Russian magazines in the
>world. It is the magazine of the spiritual and cultural revival of Russia,
>its formation as a new great democratic state, as a country of rich
>traditions and contemporary culture.
>
>Those interested in participating with or without a paper should fill out
the
>form below and mail, fax or e-mail it to:
>
>Dr. Edward Lozansky
>President, American University in Moscow
>1800 Connecticut Avenue, NW
>Washington, D.C. 20009
>Tel. 202-986-6010, Fax 202-667-4244 E-mail: Lozansky at aol.com
>
>Registration form
>
>
>Last_____________________________First_________________________
>
>Organization____________________________________________________
>
>Address_________________________________________________________
>
>City____________________State_________Zip_______Country__________
>
>Phone____________________Fax________________E-mail_______________
>
>$300 registration fee which covers conference materials, opening reception
on
>September 24 and closing banquet on September 26 can be paid by check,
wired
>or charged to a credit card.
>
>Wiring Instructions
>
>Riggs National Bank
>Washington, D.C.
>ABA 054000030
>Beneficiary: Kontinent
>Account 17046187
>
>If paying by credit card, please fill out below:
>__Visa__Mastercard__American Express
>
>Account Number___________________________Expiration___________
>
>Amount $_______Signature______________________________________
>
>For additional information please visit our website: www.RussiaHouse.org


From kirao at wam.umd.edu  Sun Jul 25 19:03:01 1999
From: kirao at wam.umd.edu (Kira Gor)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:03:01 -0400
Subject: Job openings with ACTR/ACCELS
Message-ID: <SUN.25.JUL.1999.150301.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

I know, you don't want to work for them, but decided to send this to you
anyway.

Your vacation sounds like fun!

K

----------
>From: Kate Gottschall <Gottscha at actr.org>
>To: SEELANGS at CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
>Subject: Job openings with ACTR/ACCELS
>Date: Fri, Jul 23, 1999, 2:59 PM
>

> The American Councils for International Education: ACTR/ACCELS
>
> NOTICE OF POSITIONS OPENING
> _________________________________________________________
> The American Councils is currently seeking candidates for the positions
> below.  To apply, send a letter of application stating the position sought,
> resume, and salary requirements to:  Human Resources, American
> Councils for International Education: ACTR/ACCELS, 1776
> Massachusetts Avenue, N.W., Suite 700, Washington, DC, 20036.  Fax:
> 202-872-9178.  For more information about specific American Councils
> programs and employment opportunities in the US and abroad, visit our
> web site at:  www.actr.org.
> __________________________________________________________
> Country Director
> Minsk, Belarus
> __________________________________________________________
>
> The Country Director is responsible for maintaining American Councils'
> external relations in Belarus, overseeing internal operations, providing
> overall supervision of ACTR/ACCELS programs in country, and
> cultivating new program development.  In this capacity, the Country
> Director position reports to the NIS Regional Director and
> Washington-based Vice President and works in cooperation with
> Washington-based program managers.
>
> Qualifications:
>
> Fluency in Russian or national language;
> Bachelor's degree (graduate degree preferred) -- related to region in:
> economics, international education or development, history, Russian, or
> related area;
> Professional-level program management experience;
> Overseas work/living experience, preferably in the applicable region;
> Demonstrated interest in the applicable region;
> Supervisory experience; supervising foreign national staff preferred;
> Cross-cultural skills; and
> Strong written and oral communication skills (English, Russian and/or
> national language)
> __________________________________________________________
> __________________________________________________________
>
> Participant Recruiter for Teacher Programs
> Moscow, Russia
> __________________________________________________________
> The six-month Recuiter position serves as an American Councils
> program representative for Teacher programs throughout Russia and is
> responsible for all aspects of participant recruitment including:
> advertising competitions; making presentations before potential
> candidates; conducting prerequisite testing and interviewing; and
> associated recordkeeping.  The Recruiter must also interact with local
> governmental and educational officials at all levels in disseminating
> information about the programs and coordinating testing processes.  The
> position reports to the Moscow-based Program Officer for Teacher
> Programs.
>
> Qualifications:
> Program administration experience;
> Fluent in Russian language;
> Experience traveling extensively under difficult conditions;
> Experience in budget oversight; and
> BA in relevant field (e.g. Russian language, Russian area studies,
> education, etc.) required; advanced degree preferred.
> __________________________________________________________
> _________________________________________________________
>
> Participant Recruiter - Freedom Support Act Future Leaders Exchange
> Program (FSAFLEX)
> Minsk, Belarus; Moscow, Russia (multiple positions)
> __________________________________________________________
> The four-month Recuiter position serves as the American Councils
> program representative in the region and is responsible for all aspects of
> participant recruitment including:  advertising competitions; interviewing
> candidates; conducting prerequisite testing; and associated
> recordkeeping.  The Recruiter must also interact with local governmental
> and educational officials at all levels in disseminating information about
> the programs and coordinating testing process.  The position reports to
> the country program hub director and/or the Moscow administrative
> officers.
>
> Qualifications:
> Program administration experience;
> Fluent in Russian and/or regional languages;
> Experience traveling extensively under difficult conditions;
> Experience in budget management;
> BA in relevant field (e.g. Russian language, Russian area studies,
> education, etc.) required; advanced degree preferred
> __________________________________________________________
> The American Councils for International Education: ACTR/ACCELS is a
> private, non-profit educational association and exchange organization
> devoted to improving education, professional training and research
> within and regarding the former Soviet Union (FSU).  The American
> Councils administers academic exchange and training programs in
> virtually all fields; provides educational advising and academic testing
> services throughout the NIS; and organizes conferences and seminars in
> the US and abroad for its membership, exchange participants, alumni,
> and professional groups.  The American Councils maintains an operating
> budget of over $50M, employs a staff of more than 250, and operates
> offices in 12 countries of the FSU.


From dworth at ucla.edu  Sun Jul 25 20:17:41 1999
From: dworth at ucla.edu (Dean Worth)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 13:17:41 -0700
Subject: Conference on Russia in Warsaw
In-Reply-To: <001801bed650$b7fa1420$79319595@hh218a.eng.tntech.edu>
Message-ID: <SUN.25.JUL.1999.131741.0700.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

removeAt 10:49 PM 7/24/99 -0500, you wrote:
>remove
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Edward D. Lozansky <Lozansky at aol.com>
>To: SEELANGS at CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU <SEELANGS at CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
>Date: Saturday, July 24, 1999 1:45 PM
>Subject: Conference on Russia in Warsaw
>
>
>>If you want to be removed from this list for people interested in Russian
>>affairs please click reply and type remove. Sorry for disturbing.
>>
>>        PLEASE POST AND FORWARD TO YOUR COLLEAGUES
>>
>>Final Announcement and Call for Papers
>>
>>                4th International Conference on
>>                PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE OF RUSSIA
>>                September 24 - 26, 1999 Warsaw, Poland
>>
>>                Dedicated to Editor-in-Chief of Magazine Kontinent
>>                Vladimir Maximov
>>
>>Organized by
>>
>>Kontinent Magazine
>>Russia House, Warsaw
>>University of Warsaw
>>Russian Academy of Sciences
>>American University in Moscow
>>
>>Leading cultural, political, and literary figures from Russia and the West
>>are invited to Warsaw to analyze the current situation in Russia and to
>>discuss the future of its democratic reforms.  This conference is dedicated
>>to Editor-in-Chief of Magazine Kontinent Vladimir Maximov.
>>
>>Program will feature the following plenary and concurrent sessions on
>Russia:
>>
>>Literature and Culture
>>Foreign Policy and National Security
>>Economics and Environment
>>Crime and Law
>>
>>1st Conference took place in Paris in 1996, 2nd - in Moscow in 1997, 3rd -
>in
>>Washington in 1998, and 4th will be held in Warsaw  September 24 - 26,
>1999.
>>
>>Conference proceedings will be published as a special volume of Kontinent.
>>
>>KONTINENT is widely recognized as one of the best Russian magazines in the
>>world. It is the magazine of the spiritual and cultural revival of Russia,
>>its formation as a new great democratic state, as a country of rich
>>traditions and contemporary culture.
>>
>>Those interested in participating with or without a paper should fill out
>the
>>form below and mail, fax or e-mail it to:
>>
>>Dr. Edward Lozansky
>>President, American University in Moscow
>>1800 Connecticut Avenue, NW
>>Washington, D.C. 20009
>>Tel. 202-986-6010, Fax 202-667-4244 E-mail: Lozansky at aol.com
>>
>>Registration form
>>
>>
>>Last_____________________________First_________________________
>>
>>Organization____________________________________________________
>>
>>Address_________________________________________________________
>>
>>City____________________State_________Zip_______Country__________
>>
>>Phone____________________Fax________________E-mail_______________
>>
>>$300 registration fee which covers conference materials, opening reception
>on
>>September 24 and closing banquet on September 26 can be paid by check,
>wired
>>or charged to a credit card.
>>
>>Wiring Instructions
>>
>>Riggs National Bank
>>Washington, D.C.
>>ABA 054000030
>>Beneficiary: Kontinent
>>Account 17046187
>>
>>If paying by credit card, please fill out below:
>>__Visa__Mastercard__American Express
>>
>>Account Number___________________________Expiration___________
>>
>>Amount $_______Signature______________________________________
>>
>>For additional information please visit our website: www.RussiaHouse.org
>


From flier at fas.harvard.edu  Mon Jul 26 13:46:07 1999
From: flier at fas.harvard.edu (Michael Flier)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:46:07 -0400
Subject: assistance request
In-Reply-To: <199907250902_MC2-7E2B-F26F@compuserve.com>
Message-ID: <MON.26.JUL.1999.094607.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Horace Lunt has completed revisions on what will be the seventh edition of
his _Old Church Slavonic Grammar_. It is "in press" at Mouton, which
probably means that it will not actually appear until the spring or summer
of 2000.

Sincerely,

Michael Flier


*******************************************************************************
                                PROF. MICHAEL S. FLIER
                                ======================

Dept. of Slavic Languages and Literatures  OR   Dept. of Linguistics
Harvard University                              Harvard University
Barker Center, 12 Quincy Street                 305 Boylston Hall
Cambridge, MA 02138                             Cambridge, MA 02138
      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
TEL (617) 495-4065 [Slavic],  495-4054 [Linguistics],  495-7833 [HURI]
                        FAX (617) 864-2167 [home]
*******************************************************************************

On Sun, 25 Jul 1999, richard tomback wrote:

> Dear SEELANGERS;
>                                        Could someone advise me where I may
> locate
> a used [or new] copy of  Horace G. Lunt  -  Old Church Slavonic Grammar and
> his  book  on Medieval Russian. I am also interested in a reliable source
> for books in the Serbian language.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Richard Tomback
>
> Kaunas4 at compuserve.com
>


From kirao at wam.umd.edu  Mon Jul 26 15:18:52 1999
From: kirao at wam.umd.edu (Kira Gor)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:18:52 -0400
Subject: apologies
Message-ID: <MON.26.JUL.1999.111852.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Dear SEELANGers,

My computer is playing tricks on me, and sending the wrong messages to the
wrong people.  So if any of you have received any messages from me in the
last 5 days, please disregard them.
Please accept my apologies.

Kira Gor


--
Kira Gor
Department of Asian and East European
Languages and Cultures
University of Maryland
College Park, MD 20742

phone: 301-405-0185
fax: 301-314-9841


From uhwm006 at sun.rhbnc.ac.uk  Mon Jul 26 16:46:56 1999
From: uhwm006 at sun.rhbnc.ac.uk (Geoffrey Chew)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:46:56 +0100
Subject: Janacek conference announcement
Message-ID: <MON.26.JUL.1999.174656.0100.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

As previously announced, the Music Department of Royal Holloway College,
University of London, in association with the Centre for the Study of
Eastern Europe, School of Slavonic & East European Studies, University of
London, will host a three-day International Conference, "A Tale of Three
Cities: Janacek's Brno between Vienna and Prague", from Friday 22 October
to Sunday 24 October 1999, at Senate House, Malet Street, London WC1E 7HU.
The conference will include a keynote lecture by Roger Scruton, an
interview with Sir Charles Mackerras, papers by John Tyrrell and Arnold
Whittall, and a song recital by the young tenor Matthew Elton Thomas, of
songs (some not heard previously in London) by Janacek and his
contemporaries.  Details of the conference and a registration form, which
can be printed out and returned to us, can be found at the conference web
site:

        http://www.sun.rhbnc.ac.uk/Music/Conferences/Janacek/

We look forward to meeting you in London.

 Matthew Lane
 Conference Administrator, Janacek Conference
 Department of Music, Royal Holloway, University of London
 Internet: zhlf272 at vms.rhbnc.ac.uk


From sforres1 at swarthmore.edu  Mon Jul 26 17:26:40 1999
From: sforres1 at swarthmore.edu (Sibelan Forrester)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:26:40 -0400
Subject: Rusweb, AWSS:  server change
Message-ID: <MON.26.JUL.1999.132640.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Dear friends and colleagues,
I am filled with regret to report an unexpected change in the server
address for two web pages that reside or are mirrored here at Swarthmore:

Rusweb (mirror) is now at:  http://130.58.154.91/slavic/rusweb.html
or else at:  http://lrc2.swarthmore.edu/slavic/rusweb.html

(actually the 2nd is a bit of an improvement)

The AWSS web page is now at:  http://130.58.154.91/slavic/AWSS/
or else:  http://lrc2.swarthmore.edu/slavic/AWSS/

Please change any bookmarks or links to these pages.

Thank you for your attention,

Sibelan Forrester


From fnagano at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 26 21:22:39 1999
From: fnagano at hotmail.com (Fumiko Nagano)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:22:39 PDT
Subject: Question Re: employment opportunities in Moscow
Message-ID: <MON.26.JUL.1999.142239.PDT.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

I would be most grateful if anyone has any suggestions about looking for job
opportunities in Moscow.  I graduated with a BS degree in Russian in '96,
speak Russian, Japanese and English, and have 2 years of banking experience.
  I plan to go to Moscow in September, and would appreciate any advice in
regards to seeking employment there.  Please reply off list.

Thank you in advance.

Fumiko Nagano




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From centasia at fas.harvard.edu  Tue Jul 27 23:27:08 1999
From: centasia at fas.harvard.edu (John Schoeberlein)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:27:08 EDT
Subject: APPEAL- Guide to Scholars of Central Asia
Message-ID: <TUE.27.JUL.1999.192708.EDT.>

APPEAL for assistance in collecting contact info -- Guide to Scholars of
       Central Asia

We are making one last push to collect information for the second edition
of the Guide to Scholars of Central Asia.  We are in the final stages of
data collection, so we need an URGENT REPLY FROM THOSE WHO HAVE NOT YET
BEEN INCLUDED.  Information can be submitted on paper, by electronic mail,
and on the World Wide Web.  For information, please see below.

The Guide's purpose is to promote contacts and communication among scholars
in this field.  Included are scholars in the Social Sciences and Humanities
who have made some contribution to the study of Central Asia (as a minimum
for inclusion one must have at least 3 items of bibliography: articles,
books and/or a doctoral dissertation).  For these purposes, Central Asia is
defined as including the Central Asian states of Kazakstan, Kirghizstan,
Tajikistan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan, and closely related areas, such as
the Volga Basin, the Caucasus, Southwest Siberia, East Turkistan, Mongolia,
North Afghanistan, and Northeast Iran.  All time periods are included.

Please note: It is our goal to complete data-gathering by August 27, 1999.
The Guide will be published as a book, which will be available at minimal
cost, and also as a fully searchable electronic edition at the IREX World
Wide Web site.

Note to those who were included in the first edition: To be included in the
second edition, you must update your entry.  To update your entry, you can
a) send a photocopy of your Guide entry with changes, b) send us a request
for a form with your information via e-mail or post, or c) visit the
Forum's web page for further information (see addresses below).  If you are
not sure that we have received information you have sent, please check our
working list of scholars on the web:
http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~casww/CASWW_Scholars_of_CA.html

I thank you in advance for your assistance.  Your help will be appreciated
by those whose scholarship benefits from the links you help to make.

John Schoeberlein
______________________________________________________________________
Dr. John S. Schoeberlein \ Director
Forum for Central Asian Studies \ Harvard University
1737 Cambridge Street \ Cambridge, MA 02138 \ USA
tel.: (617) 495-4338  fax: (617) 495-8319
mailto:schoeber at fas.harvard.edu
Central Asia Forum Website: http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~centasia/
<Central Asian Studies World Wide>: http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~casww/


From mswift at chass.utoronto.ca  Tue Jul 27 23:46:23 1999
From: mswift at chass.utoronto.ca (Megan Swift)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:46:23 -0400
Subject: Conference for Emigration and Exile from Central and Eastern
 Europe in the Twentieth Century
Message-ID: <TUE.27.JUL.1999.194623.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Seelangers,

The Association of Slavic Graduate Students in conjunction with the
Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures at the University of
Toronto is currently accepting proposals for a 3-day Conference on
Emigration and Exile from Central and Eastern Europe in the Twentieth
Century, to be held in February 2000.  Abstracts of 1 page or less should
be sent to the following address: emigre30 at hotmail.com before November 1,
1999.
This interdisciplinary conference will focus on formulating, interpreting
and debating the concepts of emigration and exile in the light of
theorizing the notions of wandering and homelessness, the desire and
need for rootedness.  The issues of emigration and exile during and after
the pressures of Russian and Soviet colonialism will be dealt with
extensively over the 3 days of the conference.
Our goal is to facilitate interaction between graduate
students and young and established scholars in the social sciences and
humanities.  A broad range of papers will be heard, including
topics from Literature, Linguistics, History, Political Science and
Anthropology.
The University of Toronto is Canada's largest university and as such the
Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures is able to offer the most
comprehensive range of Slavic and non-Slavic languages and literatures in
North America, including Croatian, Czech, Estonian, Finnish,
Hungarian, Macedonian, Polish, Russian, Serbian, Slovak and Ukrainian.
We encourage you to participate in this unique experience.

The Association of Slavic Graduate Students (ASGS) at the University of
Toronto.


From llozny at lba-crg.com  Wed Jul 28 14:27:00 1999
From: llozny at lba-crg.com (Ludomir Lozny)
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:27:00 -0400
Subject: SEEJ books-for-review update
In-Reply-To: <v04003a01b3b902841ad5@[130.58.152.237]>
Message-ID: <WED.28.JUL.1999.102700.0400.>

Dear Dr. Forrester,
I would be interested in reviewing the following titles:

1167. The Aftermath of "Real Existing Socialism" in Eastern
Europe, volume 2. (...) New York: St. Martin's Press, 1997.

1264. Ramet, Sabrina P. Nihil Obstat: Religion, Politics, and
Social Change in East-Central Europe and Russia. Durham: Duke
Univ. Press, 1998.

S251. Andreas Bozoki.  Intellectuals and Politics in Central
Europe.  Budapest: Central European University Press, 1999.

S274.  Michael Burawoy and Katherine Verdery, eds.  Uncertain
Transition: Ethnographies of Change in the Postsocialist World.
Lanham: Rowman & Littlefield Publishers, 1999.

I am an anthropologists, Adj. Lecturer at the Dept. of Anthropology,
Hunter College of the City University of New York.  I was educated
in Poland (Warsaw University) and the USA (Graduate School,
CUNY).  My main interest is in studying the process of
cultural/social changes in Eastern Europe (Fulbright Fellowship
1996-97).   In my PhD dissertation I examine changes observable
in the East European academic systems, mostly in the social
sciences (anthropology), due to socioeconomic and political
transformation.  If possible, I would like to review items S251 or
S274 first.

Sincerely,

Ludomir Lozny


Ludomir R, Lozny
Adj. Lecturer
Dept. of Anthropology
Hunter College
The City University of New York
695 Park Ave.
New York, NY 10021
USA
email: llozny at shiva.hunter.cuny.edu
fax: 212-772-5423
visit our website at http://maxweber.hunter.cuny.edu/anthro/


From edmokeski at hotmail.com  Wed Jul 28 20:54:54 1999
From: edmokeski at hotmail.com (Jonathan White)
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:54:54 PDT
Subject: Accented Russian Fonts
Message-ID: <WED.28.JUL.1999.135454.PDT.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Dear SEELANGers,

I am attempting to put some Russian text on the web, and would like to
include accent marks for students.  Does anybody know of a Cyrillic font
that includes accented vowels?  Many thanks for any help you can provide.

Sincerely,

Jonathan White




-----------------------
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Trinity College #701444
300 Summit St.
Hartford, CT  06106
edmokeski at hotmail.com
-----------------------


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From sipkadan at erols.com  Wed Jul 28 21:30:52 1999
From: sipkadan at erols.com (Danko Sipka)
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:30:52 -0400
Subject: Accented Russian Fonts
Message-ID: <WED.28.JUL.1999.173052.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

> I am attempting to put some Russian text on the web, and would like to
> include accent marks for students.  Does anybody know of a Cyrillic font
> that includes accented vowels?  Many thanks for any help you can provide.

You can always create your own or modify an existing font using say
Fontographer (which is available on both Mac and PC platform). However, if
you want your students to see these signs, they will have to have that font
installed on their computers. An alternative solution would be to use the
Summer Institute of Linguistic font and its dead accent keys (you can pick up
the font at: www.sil.org). Again, you will have to distribute this font to
your students.

Best,


Danko Sipka


From K.R.Hauge at easteur-orient.uio.no  Wed Jul 28 22:11:50 1999
From: K.R.Hauge at easteur-orient.uio.no (Kjetil Ra Hauge)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 00:11:50 +0200
Subject: Accented Russian Fonts
In-Reply-To: <379F768C.70684B49@erols.com>
Message-ID: <THU.29.JUL.1999.001150.0200.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

>> I am attempting to put some Russian text on the web, and would like to
>> include accent marks for students.  Does anybody know of a Cyrillic font
>> that includes accented vowels?  Many thanks for any help you can provide.
>
>You can always create your own or modify an existing font using say
>Fontographer (which is available on both Mac and PC platform). However, if
>you want your students to see these signs, they will have to have that font
>installed on their computers.

Internet Explorer apparently suppports downloadable fonts, but the downside
is that the page will only be viewable in MSIE, and you will also have to
resolve issues of copyright. Unicode won't cut it either, it does not
include accented vowels for Cyrillic. I suggest either bolding accented
vowels or putting stress accents in front of them.

-- Kjetil Rå Hauge, U. of Oslo. Phone +47/22856710, fax +47/22854140
-- (this msg sent from home, ph. +47/67148424, fax +1/5084372444 [eFax, U.S.])


From colkitto at sprint.ca  Fri Jul 30 01:04:51 1999
From: colkitto at sprint.ca (Robert Orr)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 21:04:51 -0400
Subject: Accented Russian Fonts
Message-ID: <THU.29.JUL.1999.210451.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

The WordPerfect charcater sets include Cyrillic vowels with both acute and
grave accents, and if your printer supports them, you should have no trouble
(although the instructions for setting up a keyboard are slightly
obscurantist!)

Robert Orr
-----Original Message-----
From: Kjetil Ra Hauge <K.R.Hauge at easteur-orient.uio.no>
To: SEELANGS at CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU <SEELANGS at CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: Accented Russian Fonts


>> I am attempting to put some Russian text on the web, and would like to
>> include accent marks for students.  Does anybody know of a Cyrillic font
>> that includes accented vowels?  Many thanks for any help you can provide.
>
>You can always create your own or modify an existing font using say
>Fontographer (which is available on both Mac and PC platform). However, if
>you want your students to see these signs, they will have to have that font
>installed on their computers.

Internet Explorer apparently suppports downloadable fonts, but the downside
is that the page will only be viewable in MSIE, and you will also have to
resolve issues of copyright. Unicode won't cut it either, it does not
include accented vowels for Cyrillic. I suggest either bolding accented
vowels or putting stress accents in front of them.

-- Kjetil Re Hauge, U. of Oslo. Phone +47/22856710, fax +47/22854140
-- (this msg sent from home, ph. +47/67148424, fax +1/5084372444 [eFax,
U.S.])


From yamato at yt.cache.waseda.ac.jp  Thu Jul 29 02:27:36 1999
From: yamato at yt.cache.waseda.ac.jp (Yoshimasa Tsuji)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:27:36 +0900
Subject: Accented Russian Fonts
In-Reply-To: <001801beda27$885f9de0$858a6395@roborr.uottawa.ca> (message from
 Robert Orr on Thu, 29 Jul 1999 21:04:51 -0400)
Message-ID: <THU.29.JUL.1999.112736.0900.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Robert Orr said,
  The WordPerfect charcater sets include Cyrillic vowels with both acute and
  grave accents, and if your printer supports them, you should have no trouble
  (although the instructions for setting up a keyboard are slightly
  obscurantist!)

WordPerfect was notoriously non-portable (at least five years ago
when it needed a Cyrillic module). I don't know how it works
under Corel, which I assume its present name.

Anyway, there is no consensus about how stress signs can be laid
on Russian vowels. There's nothing you can do about this.

G. E. Thobe has recently enlightened me by referring to a UNICODE
documentation
    http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/unicode.html

Well, UNICODE may have defined a category of diacritical marks
that doesn't move the reference point forward (like an acute
accent on your typewriter which when hit prints an acute but
the paper stays)*, I am not too sure if UNICODE is seriously
implemented at all (Microsoft uses it, Emacs and TeX have UNICODE
versions, but to what serious extent? I haven't heard of any serious
PostScript fonts or PostScript printer based on UNICODE.)

TeX's mechanism allows you to properly place stress signs on vowels
(especially on capital letters!!), but TeX doesn't seem to be
particularly popular outside science.

The easiest solution is to put stress signs before the
characters like
     Ja `ekhal iz Tifl`isa. Ves' moj bag`azh sosto`jal iz odnog`o
   nebol'sh`ogo chemod`ana, kot`oryj do polov`iny byl nap`olnen
   putev`ymi zap`iskami o Gr`uzii.

As placing stress signs above vowels is not an easy task (in spite of
the Unicode recommendation), particularly when the vowel itself is
a rather complicated drawing, wise people have put the stress marks
before the stressed syllables (See IPA's phonetic representation).
You should teach students that stress marks are not put on the vowels,
but before the syllables concerned rather than implement a non-portable,
private hack.

Cheers,
Tsuji

-----
* A keyboard of mine has a COMPOSE key that allows you to
input an accented vowel (it is Sun's).

** stress signs before syllables
     Ja `ekhal iz Tif`lisa. Ves' moj ba`gazh sosto`jal iz odno`go
   nebol'`shogo chemo`dana, ko`toryj do polo`viny byl na`polnen
   pute`vymi za`piskami o `Gruzii.

Yes, I have noticed that Russians always write accents right above
the vowels. That's a bit strange...


From MishaGMCLA at aol.com  Thu Jul 29 06:43:03 1999
From: MishaGMCLA at aol.com (Misha Schutt)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 02:43:03 EDT
Subject: Hard e in loan words in Russian
Message-ID: <THU.29.JUL.1999.024303.EDT.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

The issue of hard e in Odessa was recently discussed.

What is the status of hard e in loan words such as tennis, tezis, rezjume?
I learned it as the approved pronunciation, but that was a generation ago.

While I'm at it, what's the usual way of saying a casual hello these days
--still "privet"?  I've encountered "saljut" in a book, but that wasn't
current
when I was in school (BA, Middlebury, 1972--the last time I was in Russia).
I don't want to sound old-fashioned or provincial when I next visit.

Misha Schutt
Los Angeles, Calif.


From Rolf.Fieguth at unifr.ch  Thu Jul 29 15:16:11 1999
From: Rolf.Fieguth at unifr.ch (Rolf Fieguth)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:16:11 +0200
Subject: Albanian Language...Help needed!
In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990719102048.006bc644@postoffice4.mail.cornell.edu>
Message-ID: <THU.29.JUL.1999.171611.0200.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Wendy Schweigert,

try
http://www.worldlanguage.com/

Some Albanian learning books and cassettes are on their programme. Good
luck, R.F.


>Dear Seelangers,
>
>This message came to me, but I can't be of assistance.  If you can help,
>please contact Wendy directly at buna at bc.sympatico.ca
>
>Thanks.
>
>>Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 22:43:33 -0700
>>From: Wendy Schweigert <buna at bc.sympatico.ca>
>>Reply-To: buna at bc.sympatico.ca
>>Subject: Albanian Language...Help needed!
>>
>>Hi,
>>       I found your name on the internet and decidec to write a note in the
>>faint hope that you may be able to help me.I am in the process of
>>helping a young couple from Kosovo.The wife has given birth to twins.
>>The twins are very small. They are arriving here on Tuesday July 20th.
>>They don't speak a word of english and I do not speak Albanian.
>>Translators are not easy to come by. Plus they are limited in the time
>>they can spend with this couple. My question to you is do you have
>>access to any good Albanian/ English phrase books? I have tried
>>everywhere I can think of!
>>               Hoping to hear good news,
>>                       Wendy
>
>
>***************************************************************************
>David J. Galloway
>Slavic Studies
>236 Goldwin Smith Hall
>Cornell University
>Ithaca, NY 14853
>Tel: (607) 255-8350
>Fax:  (607) 255-1454
>Email:  djg11 at cornell.edu
>
>AATSEEL Intensive Language Programs page:
>http://clover.slavic.pitt.edu/~aatseel/intensive-programs/index.html
>AATSEEL Endangered Programs page:
>http://clover.slavic.pitt.edu/~aatseel/endangered-programs/index.html

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Universitaet Freiburg/CH
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Tel  (026) 3007912                    Tel/Fax  (026) 32337732
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Rolf.Fieguth at unifr.ch


From beyer at jaguar.middlebury.edu  Thu Jul 29 17:47:09 1999
From: beyer at jaguar.middlebury.edu (Beyer, Tom)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 13:47:09 -0400
Subject: Accented Russian Fonts
Message-ID: <THU.29.JUL.1999.134709.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

 I know of no Web font that supports accents-and you always risk that
students cannot download fonts

you can always do the page in something like Claris Works, save it as a
drawing or PICT or TIFF file-then put it through a graphic converter to make
a GIF or JPEG

students won't know the difference-but watch for errors-if you make a
mistake you cannot edit the GIF, you must begin the process from the start.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan White
To: SEELANGS at CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
Sent: 7/28/99 4:54 PM
Subject: Accented Russian Fonts

Dear SEELANGers,

I am attempting to put some Russian text on the web, and would like to
include accent marks for students.  Does anybody know of a Cyrillic font
that includes accented vowels?  Many thanks for any help you can
provide.

Sincerely,

Jonathan White




-----------------------
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Trinity College #701444
300 Summit St.
Hartford, CT  06106
edmokeski at hotmail.com
-----------------------


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From jowen at brynmawr.edu  Thu Jul 29 18:49:28 1999
From: jowen at brynmawr.edu (Jeanette Owen)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 14:49:28 -0400
Subject: Accented Russian fonts on the web
In-Reply-To: <199907290402.AAA14452@ada.brynmawr.edu>
Message-ID: <THU.29.JUL.1999.144928.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Seelangers:
At present, none of the standard encoding schemes for Cyrillic support
accent marks.  Thus far Unicode hasn't provided accented Cyrillic
characters, either.
On a cheerier note, it is possible to outsmart web browsers by streaming
fonts to the browser off of the server (also known as "burning" fonts, or
dynamic fonts).  So far this plan still requires some jiggling around of
true-type Mac-based accented Cyrillic fonts to get it to work for both PC
and Mac browsers.
I have to confess I didn't have time to continue work in this vein, so I
saved my accented texts as graphics and went from there.  I am hoping to
find a solution in the future...
Try checking  http://www.hexmac.com  for further information on dynamic fonts.
Best of luck,
Jeanette

 Hopefully the company supplying the streaming font program will come up
with a solution.  (It works fine for Tibetan fonts). I finally had to
settle for saving texts with accent marks as graphics.

>
>I am attempting to put some Russian text on the web, and would like to
>include accent marks for students.  Does anybody know of a Cyrillic font
>that includes accented vowels?  Many thanks for any help you can provide.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Jonathan White
>
>
>
>
>-----------------------
>Jonathan White
>Trinity College #701444
>300 Summit St.
>Hartford, CT  06106
>edmokeski at hotmail.com
>-----------------------
>
>
>_______________________________________________________________
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>Date:    Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:30:52 -0400
>From:    Danko Sipka <sipkadan at erols.com>
>Subject: Re: Accented Russian Fonts
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>
>> I am attempting to put some Russian text on the web, and would like to
>> include accent marks for students.  Does anybody know of a Cyrillic font
>> that includes accented vowels?  Many thanks for any help you can provide.
>
>You can always create your own or modify an existing font using say
>Fontographer (which is available on both Mac and PC platform). However, if
>you want your students to see these signs, they will have to have that font
>installed on their computers. An alternative solution would be to use the
>Summer Institute of Linguistic font and its dead accent keys (you can pick up
>the font at: www.sil.org). Again, you will have to distribute this font to
>your students.
>
>Best,
>
>
>Danko Sipka
>Date:    Thu, 29 Jul 1999 00:11:50 +0200
>From:    Kjetil Ra Hauge <K.R.Hauge at easteur-orient.uio.no>
>Subject: Re: Accented Russian Fonts
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>>> I am attempting to put some Russian text on the web, and would like to
>>> include accent marks for students.  Does anybody know of a Cyrillic font
>>> that includes accented vowels?  Many thanks for any help you can provide.
>>
>>You can always create your own or modify an existing font using say
>>Fontographer (which is available on both Mac and PC platform). However, if
>>you want your students to see these signs, they will have to have that font
>>installed on their computers.
>
>Internet Explorer apparently suppports downloadable fonts, but the downside
>is that the page will only be viewable in MSIE, and you will also have to
>resolve issues of copyright. Unicode won't cut it either, it does not
>include accented vowels for Cyrillic. I suggest either bolding accented
>vowels or putting stress accents in front of them.
>
>-- Kjetil Re Hauge, U. of Oslo. Phone +47/22856710, fax +47/22854140
>-- (this msg sent from home, ph. +47/67148424, fax +1/5084372444 [eFax,
U.S.])
>Date:    Thu, 29 Jul 1999 21:04:51 -0400
>From:    Robert Orr <colkitto at sprint.ca>
>Subject: Re: Accented Russian Fonts
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
>
>The WordPerfect charcater sets include Cyrillic vowels with both acute and
>grave accents, and if your printer supports them, you should have no trouble
>(although the instructions for setting up a keyboard are slightly
>obscurantist!)
>
>Robert Orr
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kjetil Ra Hauge <K.R.Hauge at easteur-orient.uio.no>
>To: SEELANGS at CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU <SEELANGS at CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
>Date: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 6:08 PM
>Subject: Re: Accented Russian Fonts
>
>
>>> I am attempting to put some Russian text on the web, and would like to
>>> include accent marks for students.  Does anybody know of a Cyrillic font
>>> that includes accented vowels?  Many thanks for any help you can provide.
>>
>>You can always create your own or modify an existing font using say
>>Fontographer (which is available on both Mac and PC platform). However, if
>>you want your students to see these signs, they will have to have that font
>>installed on their computers.
>
>Internet Explorer apparently suppports downloadable fonts, but the downside
>is that the page will only be viewable in MSIE, and you will also have to
>resolve issues of copyright. Unicode won't cut it either, it does not
>include accented vowels for Cyrillic. I suggest either bolding accented
>vowels or putting stress accents in front of them.
>
>-- Kjetil Re Hauge, U. of Oslo. Phone +47/22856710, fax +47/22854140
>-- (this msg sent from home, ph. +47/67148424, fax +1/5084372444 [eFax,
>U.S.])
>Date:    Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:27:36 +0900
>From:    Yoshimasa Tsuji <yamato at yt.cache.waseda.ac.jp>
>Subject: Re: Accented Russian Fonts
>
>Robert Orr said,
>  The WordPerfect charcater sets include Cyrillic vowels with both acute and
>  grave accents, and if your printer supports them, you should have no
trouble
>  (although the instructions for setting up a keyboard are slightly
>  obscurantist!)
>
>WordPerfect was notoriously non-portable (at least five years ago
>when it needed a Cyrillic module). I don't know how it works
>under Corel, which I assume its present name.
>
>Anyway, there is no consensus about how stress signs can be laid
>on Russian vowels. There's nothing you can do about this.
>
>G. E. Thobe has recently enlightened me by referring to a UNICODE
>documentation
>    http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/unicode.html
>
>Well, UNICODE may have defined a category of diacritical marks
>that doesn't move the reference point forward (like an acute
>accent on your typewriter which when hit prints an acute but
>the paper stays)*, I am not too sure if UNICODE is seriously
>implemented at all (Microsoft uses it, Emacs and TeX have UNICODE
>versions, but to what serious extent? I haven't heard of any serious
>PostScript fonts or PostScript printer based on UNICODE.)
>
>TeX's mechanism allows you to properly place stress signs on vowels
>(especially on capital letters!!), but TeX doesn't seem to be
>particularly popular outside science.
>
>The easiest solution is to put stress signs before the
>characters like
>     Ja `ekhal iz Tifl`isa. Ves' moj bag`azh sosto`jal iz odnog`o
>   nebol'sh`ogo chemod`ana, kot`oryj do polov`iny byl nap`olnen
>   putev`ymi zap`iskami o Gr`uzii.
>
>As placing stress signs above vowels is not an easy task (in spite of
>the Unicode recommendation), particularly when the vowel itself is
>a rather complicated drawing, wise people have put the stress marks
>before the stressed syllables (See IPA's phonetic representation).
>You should teach students that stress marks are not put on the vowels,
>but before the syllables concerned rather than implement a non-portable,
>private hack.
>
>Cheers,
>Tsuji
>
>-----
>* A keyboard of mine has a COMPOSE key that allows you to
>input an accented vowel (it is Sun's).
>
>** stress signs before syllables
>     Ja `ekhal iz Tif`lisa. Ves' moj ba`gazh sosto`jal iz odno`go
>   nebol'`shogo chemo`dana, ko`toryj do polo`viny byl na`polnen
>   pute`vymi za`piskami o `Gruzii.
>
>Yes, I have noticed that Russians always write accents right above
>the vowels. That's a bit strange...
>


From lrc at mrminc.com  Thu Jul 29 19:23:15 1999
From: lrc at mrminc.com (LRC staff)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:23:15 -0400
Subject: Albanian Language...Help needed!
In-Reply-To: <v04011701b3c6205c036b@[134.21.3.167]>
Message-ID: <THU.29.JUL.1999.152315.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

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From djbpitt+ at pitt.edu  Thu Jul 29 19:43:27 1999
From: djbpitt+ at pitt.edu (David J Birnbaum)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:43:27 EDT
Subject: accented fonts
Message-ID: <THU.29.JUL.1999.154327.EDT.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Dear SEELANGers,

A few (somewhat technical) thoughts about accented fonts:

1. Why Unicode Deliberately Excludes Accented Cyrillic Vowels.

Unicode is a character set (inventory of characters, or informational
unirts) and not a font (inventory of glyphs, or presentational units).
There is not necessarily a one-to-one mapping between characters and
glyphs. (For example, even if your font can render a single "fl" ligature
in English, we still think of this as two letters.)

Unicode deliberately does not encode accented vowels as independent
precomposed characters because it intends that these be represented as a
sequence of characters (plain vowel plus "floating diacritic"), which may
then be mapped to either one or two glyphs (depending on the font) for
rendering. Unicode includes accented vowels only for legacy purposes, that
is, only when they were part of character sets in reasonably wide use when
Unicode was developed. Unicode opted for the "floating diacritic" strategy
because it is economical, since it absolves Unicode from having to find
room in its inventory for every conceivable combination of base character
and diacritic. This strategy is sensible, but it carries a cost, part of
which is that font-rendering engines that can process floating diacritics
have to be smarter than those that assume a one-to-one mapping between
characters and glyphs.

2. What's a Slavist to Do: The Accented Font Approach.

There is no standard in wide use for encoding accented Cyrillic vowels,
which means that no matter what font you use (whether commercial or home
grown), you won't be able to share documents (or publish them on the web)
unless the people with whom you want to share them have a font that follows
the same layout. You also may have trouble getting your software to treat
accented and unaccented vowels identically for searching purposes. If you
need real accented vowels enough to put up with these inconveniences, you
can buy or build a font that will include accented Cyrillic vowels.

3. What's a Slavist to Do: The Non-Accented Font Approach.

I usually use bold or italic to mark the accented vowel in Cyrillic
documents. I find this subtler than accent marks, but it is culturally
incorrect, since when Russians do mark stress (such as when printing the
comparative adjective bol'shaja), they do use an acute accent.

4. The Long View.

If we live long enough, we'll see systems that store text as Unicode
internally (with floating diacritics) and that rely on rendering engines
that can assemble accented letters on the fly.

Cheers,

David
________

Professor David J. Birnbaum
Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures
1417 Cathedral of Learning
University of Pittsburgh
Pittsburgh, PA 15260 USA
Voice: 1 412 624 5712
Fax: 1 412 624 9714
Email: djb at clover.slavic.pitt.edu
URL: http://clover.slavic.pitt.edu/~djb/


From kpeter at actr.org  Thu Jul 29 19:44:31 1999
From: kpeter at actr.org (Ken Petersen)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:44:31 EDT
Subject: Accented Russian Fonts
Message-ID: <THU.29.JUL.1999.154431.EDT.>

ER UniversTR Cyrillic Fonts

There are indeed web-compatible, cross-browser, cross-platform
Cyrillic fonts with accented vowels available for free on the Russnet
website.  Just go to:  "http://www.russnet.org/online.html" and
proceed to "Peers".  On the main "Peers" page, you will find a link
to the fonts.

There is one serious drawback to the fonts though-- there are no
numbers.  The accented vowels sit upon the number keyspaces.  A
complete keyboard layout can be found if you download any of the
modules.  While you're at the site, check out "Business Russian",
"Ivan the Terrible" and the other Russian modules that we offer!

If anyone wants to use these fonts for Web design, read on...

When you use these fonts on a web page, you must make the fonts (both
Mac and PC) available for your end-users.  Download each version (you
can get the PC version by going to the sight on a PC, and the Mac by
going on a Mac-- the page determines which font to deliver --see
script below).
One you have both versions of the fonts, upload them both
("erfonts.exe" (PC)  and  "fonts.sea.hqx" (Mac)) and refer to them
using the following script:

FONT DOWNLOAD PAGE
**********Start copying below this line*****************
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<TITLE>Download Area</TITLE>
<Script Language = "Javascript">
//set the function which picks the right font and the appropriate set
of directions
function setPlat(){
//checks if user is using a Mac
        if (navigator.appVersion.indexOf("Macintosh") != -1){
                pform="fonts.sea.hqx"
        }
//checks if user is using a PC
else if (navigator.appVersion.indexOf("95") != -1){
                 pform="erfonts.exe"
         }
// give them the appropriate font
document.location.href=pform
}
</SCRIPT>
</HEAD>

<BODY>
<AHREF=javascript:setPlat()>Click here to download the fonts</A>
</BODY>
</HTML>

**********End copying above this line*****************

Feel free to use, modify, distribute, etc. this script in any way you
like!!

When you design your page, all you have to do is put font tags in to
refer to the ER UniversTR fonts-- that's all!  They are Western
encoded, so you don't even have to think about encodings or
keyboards.  Just make sure that your font tags look like this on your
page:

*************<FONT TAGS>*******************

<FONT FACE="ER UniversTR">Some Russian text here</FONT>

hint:  If you want to use numbers, just use an English font like
Times New Roman:

<FONT FACE="Times New Roman">1234</FONT><FONT FACE="ER
UniversTR">More Russian text here</FONT>

*************</FONT TAGS>*******************
Any questions, contact:

Ken Petersen
kpeter at actr.org

Cheers,

Ken


From jcurtis at ezol.com  Thu Jul 29 19:45:35 1999
From: jcurtis at ezol.com (Jim Curtis)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:45:35 EDT
Subject: Roman Jakobson's archive
Message-ID: <THU.29.JUL.1999.154535.EDT.>

Hello--
    The AAASS office in Cambridge gave me this address as a source to which to direct an inquiry.  Does anybody know the whereabouts and status of Roman Jakobson's archive?

Thanks,

Jim

James M. Curtis, Ph. D.
5531 Doral Drive
Wilmington, DE 19808
302/366-0545
jcurtis at ezol.com


From gribble.3 at osu.edu  Thu Jul 29 20:21:29 1999
From: gribble.3 at osu.edu (Charles E. Gribble)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:21:29 -0400
Subject: Accented Russian Fonts
In-Reply-To: <19990729022741.25374.qmail@orb2.osu.edu>
Message-ID: <THU.29.JUL.1999.162129.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

I'm not sure what you mean by non-portable, but indeed the system WP uses
to denote non-ASCII characters is specific to WP.  On the other hand, it
works very well.  I have a completely customized Cyrillic keyboard in WP 7
(same principle to make one for 8 or 9) which has all the letters exactly
where I want them (e.g., asdf for the left hand, i kratkoe kl; for the
right in home row), plus all the vowels with both acute and grave accents,
plus all the characters for Macedonian, Serbian, Belarusian, Ukrainian, and
OCS, including jat', jus malyj, jus bol'shoj, jotated letters, etc.  I can
also produce any other Slavic or Baltic letter, plus phonetics, etc. by the
press of a couple of keys.  WordPerfect is great for doing multilingual
text, especially linguistics.  It works on any Windows printer for all the
characters.  It does not, however, export the special characters to the
Web, any more than other word processors do.


At 11:27 AM 7/29/1999 +0900, you wrote:
>---------------------- Information from the mail header
-----------------------
>Sender:       "SEELangs: Slavic & E. European Languages & literatures list"
>              <SEELANGS at CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
>Poster:       Yoshimasa Tsuji <yamato at yt.cache.waseda.ac.jp>
>Subject:      Re: Accented Russian Fonts
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
>
>Robert Orr said,
>  The WordPerfect charcater sets include Cyrillic vowels with both acute and
>  grave accents, and if your printer supports them, you should have no
trouble
>  (although the instructions for setting up a keyboard are slightly
>  obscurantist!)
>
>WordPerfect was notoriously non-portable (at least five years ago
>when it needed a Cyrillic module). I don't know how it works
>under Corel, which I assume its present name.
>

Charles E. Gribble    gribble.3 at osu.edu
Dept. of Slavic Languages
The Ohio State University
Columbus OH 43210


From billingl at spot.Colorado.EDU  Thu Jul 29 20:58:43 1999
From: billingl at spot.Colorado.EDU (Loren A. Billings)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 14:58:43 -0600
Subject: Roman Jakobson's archive
In-Reply-To: <003701bed9f9$59630be0$3814ddcf@compaq>
Message-ID: <THU.29.JUL.1999.145843.0600.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

On Thu, 29 Jul 1999, Jim Curtis wrote:

>     The AAASS office in Cambridge gave me this address as a source to
>which to direct an inquiry.  Does anybody know the whereabouts and
>status of Roman Jakobson's archive?

Jim (and SEELangs),

Jakobson's archives are housed at the MIT libraries.  I once got something
from there.  The archivists were very helpful, but one still cannot browse
much of this collection personally.

Best,  --Loren Billings <loren.billings at colorado.edu>

Starting mid August 1999:
Department of Linguistics
University of Colorado
Boulder, CO 80309-0295 U.S.A.


From hebaran at ibm.net  Thu Jul 29 22:11:47 1999
From: hebaran at ibm.net (Henryk Baran)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:11:47 -0400
Subject: Accented Russian Fonts
Message-ID: <THU.29.JUL.1999.181147.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Yes, WP works pretty well, but it's very much a minority file format; if you
want to share files with other people, especially Cyrillic, you have to go
to something that is Word compatible.
----- Original Message -----
From: Charles E. Gribble <gribble.3 at osu.edu>
To: <SEELANGS at CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 1999 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: Accented Russian Fonts


> I'm not sure what you mean by non-portable, but indeed the system WP uses
> to denote non-ASCII characters is specific to WP.  On the other hand, it
> works very well.  I have a completely customized Cyrillic keyboard in WP 7
> (same principle to make one for 8 or 9) which has all the letters exactly
> where I want them (e.g., asdf for the left hand, i kratkoe kl; for the
> right in home row), plus all the vowels with both acute and grave accents,
> plus all the characters for Macedonian, Serbian, Belarusian, Ukrainian,
and
> OCS, including jat', jus malyj, jus bol'shoj, jotated letters, etc.  I can
> also produce any other Slavic or Baltic letter, plus phonetics, etc. by
the
> press of a couple of keys.  WordPerfect is great for doing multilingual
> text, especially linguistics.  It works on any Windows printer for all the
> characters.  It does not, however, export the special characters to the
> Web, any more than other word processors do.
>
>
> At 11:27 AM 7/29/1999 +0900, you wrote:
> >---------------------- Information from the mail header
> -----------------------
> >Sender:       "SEELangs: Slavic & E. European Languages & literatures
list"
> >              <SEELANGS at CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
> >Poster:       Yoshimasa Tsuji <yamato at yt.cache.waseda.ac.jp>
> >Subject:      Re: Accented Russian Fonts
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
> >
> >Robert Orr said,
> >  The WordPerfect charcater sets include Cyrillic vowels with both acute
and
> >  grave accents, and if your printer supports them, you should have no
> trouble
> >  (although the instructions for setting up a keyboard are slightly
> >  obscurantist!)
> >
> >WordPerfect was notoriously non-portable (at least five years ago
> >when it needed a Cyrillic module). I don't know how it works
> >under Corel, which I assume its present name.
> >
>
> Charles E. Gribble    gribble.3 at osu.edu
> Dept. of Slavic Languages
> The Ohio State University
> Columbus OH 43210
>


From hebaran at ibm.net  Thu Jul 29 22:13:25 1999
From: hebaran at ibm.net (Henryk Baran)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:13:25 -0400
Subject: Roman Jakobson's archive
Message-ID: <THU.29.JUL.1999.181325.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Except for letters of recommendation, just about everything there is open.
Have worked with those materials for several years.
Henryk Baran
University at Albany, SUNY
hebaran at ibm.net; hbaran at cnsvax.albany.edu
hbaran at mail.fipc.ru

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Curtis <jcurtis at ezol.com>
To: <SEELANGS at CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 1999 3:45 PM
Subject: Roman Jakobson's archive


Hello--
    The AAASS office in Cambridge gave me this address as a source to which
to direct an inquiry.  Does anybody know the whereabouts and status of Roman
Jakobson's archive?

Thanks,

Jim

James M. Curtis, Ph. D.
5531 Doral Drive
Wilmington, DE 19808
302/366-0545
jcurtis at ezol.com


From yamato at yt.cache.waseda.ac.jp  Fri Jul 30 00:24:06 1999
From: yamato at yt.cache.waseda.ac.jp (Yoshimasa Tsuji)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:24:06 +0900
Subject: Accented Russian Fonts
In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990729162129.00714174@pop.service.ohio-state.edu>
 (gribble.3@osu.edu)
Message-ID: <FRI.30.JUL.1999.092406.0900.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Dear C. E. Gribble,
Thank you for updating me with the latest capabilities of
WordPerfect.
 >I'm not sure what you mean by non-portable, but indeed the system WP uses
 >to denote non-ASCII characters is specific to WP.  On the other hand, it
 >works very well.  I have a completely customized Cyrillic keyboard in WP 7
 >(same principle to make one for 8 or 9) which has all the letters exactly
 >where I want them (e.g., asdf for the left hand, i kratkoe kl; for the
 >right in home row), plus all the vowels with both acute and grave accents,
 >plus all the characters for Macedonian, Serbian, Belarusian, Ukrainian, and
 >OCS, including jat', jus malyj, jus bol'shoj, jotated letters, etc.  I can
 >also produce any other Slavic or Baltic letter, plus phonetics, etc. by the
 >press of a couple of keys.  WordPerfect is great for doing multilingual
 >text, especially linguistics.  It works on any Windows printer for all the
 >characters.  It does not, however, export the special characters to the
 >Web, any more than other word processors do.
 >
However, I don't think WP is of much practical use. Firstly, you will need
to save the foreign language text in its own Microsoft code page
before you can use a better utility, particularly a spell checker.
In the case of MS Word, I have found out that its accessory Russian spell
checker is much inferior to Orfo or Lingvo, so I naturally assume that
the accessory spell checker is no better or non-existent if the language
does not have a large number of computing users. When converted to
Microsoft's internal representation, all of the WP specific features
will be lost. If so, why WP? Perhaps, make a perfect text by MS Word,
and then add cosmetics by WP? MS Word can handle accented vowels, jus, etc.
if the font is provided. (If WP's fonts are in TTF format, MS Word
can use it.)
  Secondly, digital text is meant to be used more than once. If I
write a letter or a brief note without having a copy nor
a future reference, I will use a typewriter or handwrite it
because it's easier and quicker. When a digital text is re-used,
the new software needs to be compatible with the text to be used.
If the text is encoded in ASCII text only, there should be minimal
trouble (incidentally, my name is a single Japanese character
represented by two ASCII characters DT -- yes, Japanese standard
uses ASCII characters only). I am saying WordPerfect users will have
trouble if they began to use other software (Microsoft things,
Acrobat, Java, particularly). Even MS Word is not very safe:
the latest Russian version of Word does not accept a Russian text file
compiled in DOS days.
  I personally work in unix environment with a heavy reliance
upon Microsoft Windows and Mac. MS Windows application has a great
inventory (Ushakov/Dal' dictionaries, spell checkers, thesauruses, OCRs,
databases, etc.), Mac excels in dealing with PostScript printers
and DTP, but unix is the tool I develope my thinking -- it helps
me find relevant text, edit the text in the most idiosyncratic way,
etc. The linking node between those systems is a well documented
code conversion table that works with text files only.
  The point is not that WordPerfect is not much used, but rather that
it is not compatible with the standard. Incidentally, I am not
saying MS things are the standard though they can be made compatible
with the standard (ask MS Word to save in HTML/RTF/text format,
ask Excel to save in CSV format, etc.) without losing essential
information.

Cheers,
Tsuji


From yoo.3 at osu.edu  Fri Jul 30 16:26:12 1999
From: yoo.3 at osu.edu (Yoo, Syeng-Mann)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:26:12 -0700
Subject: Fwd: MOSTOVI: Hrpski jezicki standard
Message-ID: <FRI.30.JUL.1999.092612.0700.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

>Delivered-To: mostovi-outgoing at listbox.com
>Delivered-To: mostovi at listbox.com
>Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:41:16 +0200
>X-PH: V4.4 at orb2
>From: AHetzer <hetzer at uni-bremen.de>
>Organization: SuUB Bremen
>X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [de] (WinNT; I)
>X-Accept-Language: en,ru
>To: mostovi at listbox.com
>Subject: MOSTOVI: Hrpski jezicki standard
>Sender: owner-mostovi at admin.listbox.com
>Reply-To: mostovi at listbox.com
>
>______MOSTOVI__BRIDGES______       mostovi at listbox.com
>
>Lately, I have written a review on the new Croatian-German dictionary by
>Langenscheidt. After I submitted the text, the redactor wrote me that in
>Republika Srpska Ekavski was the official variety of Hrpski. He himself
>had heard the Pale TV, so he was an eye or ear witness. I had written
>that the common linguistic standard had left untouched by Serbs, at
>least. Obviously, this is an error. What is the current standard of
>Montenegro - Crnogorski, I suppose? Because I have found a book title
>Crnogorski pravopis. 
>
>Perhaps someone has authoritative information, not merely impressions
>from everyday life. 
>
>Kind regards
>Armin
>
>-- 
>Staats- und Universitätsbibliothek Bremen
>Dr. Armin Hetzer, Fax: (0421) 218 2614
>Referat Handschriften/Rara, Slavistik & Romanistik
>
>______________________________________________________
>Sent by: AHetzer <hetzer at uni-bremen.de>
>MOSTOVI official website: http://www.borut.com/mostovi
> 

Sincerely




Syeng-Mann Yoo

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From K.R.Hauge at easteur-orient.uio.no  Fri Jul 30 22:59:32 1999
From: K.R.Hauge at easteur-orient.uio.no (Kjetil Ra Hauge)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:59:32 -0700
Subject: Accented Cyrillic on the web
Message-ID: <FRI.30.JUL.1999.155932.0700.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

There is one solution that is not dependent on the user having certain
fonts installed, and gives superb control over the layout of pages: serve
the document as a .pdf file. The users need to have the Acrobat plug-in
installed, but that is a commonly used and freely available product. When
you click on the URL for a .pdf file, your browser will start up Acrobat
Reader, and its navigation bar will blend, Robocop-like (or was it The
Terminator? Exterminator? - never mind), into the browser window.

Pdf files are made with Acrobat Distiller (commercial product) or
PDF-writer (also commercial, but included with some publishing packages).
With Acrobat Exchange (part of the Distiller/Exchange package) you can also
add clickable links to pages, and they will behave like plain links in
ordinary HTML pages. No possibilities for Javascript though, and there are
limitations to the way links work - you cannot bring up a link in a new
window, for instance.

--- Kjetil Ra Hauge, U. of Oslo.
--- Tel. +47/22 85 67 10, fax +47/22 85 41 40


From KENNETH.UDUT at spcorp.com  Fri Jul 30 14:14:00 1999
From: KENNETH.UDUT at spcorp.com (UDUT, KENNETH)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:14:00 -0400
Subject: Accented Cyrillic on the web
Message-ID: <FRI.30.JUL.1999.101400.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

     The nice thing about PDF-writer, for example, is its utter
     simplicity.  It simply acts as another printer added to your
     computer.  You print to the PDF-Writer device, and it asks you a
     couple of questions (filename, how you want to compress it,
     font-embedding, etc) - and that's it - your document is ready for
     distribution.

     I haven't used it extensively, but as far as I know, it should work
     just fine with WP6-8 and MSWord or anything else you toss at it.

     How well will it handle accented fonts?  I don't know :)  But it
     has worked well so far - PDF *does* stand for "Portable Document
     Format", and it tries to succeed in this regard :)

     -Kenneth
     kenneth.udut at spcorp.com


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Subject: Accented Cyrillic on the web
Author:  "Kjetil Ra Hauge" [SMTP:K.R.Hauge at easteur-orient.uio.no] at
S-P_EXHUB_AM
Date:    07/30/1999 6:59 PM


There is one solution that is not dependent on the user having certain
fonts installed, and gives superb control over the layout of pages: serve
the document as a .pdf file. The users need to have the Acrobat plug-in
installed, but that is a commonly used and freely available product. When
you click on the URL for a .pdf file, your browser will start up Acrobat
Reader, and its navigation bar will blend, Robocop-like (or was it The
Terminator? Exterminator? - never mind), into the browser window.

Pdf files are made with Acrobat Distiller (commercial product) or
PDF-writer (also commercial, but included with some publishing packages).
With Acrobat Exchange (part of the Distiller/Exchange package) you can also
add clickable links to pages, and they will behave like plain links in
ordinary HTML pages. No possibilities for Javascript though, and there are
limitations to the way links work - you cannot bring up a link in a new
window, for instance.

--- Kjetil Ra Hauge, U. of Oslo.
--- Tel. +47/22 85 67 10, fax +47/22 85 41 40


From tritt002 at maroon.tc.umn.edu  Fri Jul 30 15:34:43 1999
From: tritt002 at maroon.tc.umn.edu (Michael Trittipo)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:34:43 -0500
Subject: Accented Cyrillic on the web
In-Reply-To: <199907301417.KAA17299@sp2.spcorp.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.30.JUL.1999.103443.0500.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

At 10:14 1999/07/30 -0400, UDUT, KENNETH wrote:
>     The nice thing about PDF-writer, for example, is its utter simplicity
* * *
>     How well will it handle accented fonts?  I don't know :)

In version 3.02 of Acrobat Exchange, not well.  (I used the oft-seen Czech
"Priserne . . ."  phrase to test, using Microsoft's CE font subset of
Microsoft's WGL4 fonts -- which in most places work beautifully.)  However,
PDF _Distiller_ works fine.  It takes an extra step, but that's the route
one has to go, to get hacky and carky a tak dale.  First print to a
Postcript _file_, then use PDF _Distiller_ to turn the Postscript file into
PDF for printing/posting on web page servers, etc.

I haven't yet moved to try 4.0.





Michael Trittipo
Minneapolis, Minnesota
mailto:tritt002 at tc.umn.edu


From jcurtis at ezol.com  Fri Jul 30 15:33:12 1999
From: jcurtis at ezol.com (Jim Curtis)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:33:12 EDT
Subject: Thanks
Message-ID: <FRI.30.JUL.1999.113312.EDT.>

My thanks to all the people who responded so quickly and informatively to my inquiry about Roman Jakobson's archive.

Best,

Jim
James M. Curtis, Ph. D.
5531 Doral Drive
Wilmington, DE 19808
302/366-0545
jcurtis at ezol.com


From edmokeski at hotmail.com  Fri Jul 30 16:23:47 1999
From: edmokeski at hotmail.com (Jonathan White)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:23:47 PDT
Subject: Accented Russian
Message-ID: <FRI.30.JUL.1999.092347.PDT.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Dear SEELANGers,

Many thanks for all the suggestions regarding accented russian fonts for the
web.  While there's obviously no one perfect solution, hopefully I will be
able to work out some sort of a best possible option suited to this
particular usage.

Jonathan White



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Yale University
Center for Language Study
1 Hillhouse Ave.
New Haven, CT 06520-8349
edmokeski at hotmail.com
http://www.yale.edu/cls
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From ltaylor at dudley.lib.usf.edu  Fri Jul 30 18:56:27 1999
From: ltaylor at dudley.lib.usf.edu (Lisa Taylor (REF-GA))
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:56:27 -0400
Subject: Roman Iakobson Archive
Message-ID: <FRI.30.JUL.1999.145627.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Some contact and other information for this collection:

Jakobson, Roman, 1896-1982

Massachussetts Institute of Technology
Institute Archives
Special Collections
Cambridege 02139
Tel. (617) 253-5136
Fax  (617) 253-1690

Holdings:  Papers 1908-1982 123 Cubic Ft
Notes:  Provides a full record of Roman Jakobson's personal life and
scholarly contributions to linguistics, poetics, mythology, folklore,
literature, and cognitive science.  Correspondence, writings, and teaching
materials document Jakobson's early years as a professor of linguistics
and Slavic studies in prewar Czechoslovakia.  Lectures, speeches,
correspondence, research and lecture notes and writings about Jakobson
detail his personal and professional life in the U.S.  Included is
Jakobson's correspondence with Linguist Prince Nikolai Sergeevich
Trubetskoy.  Finding aid available.

Subject Collections.  7th edition.  New Jersey: R.R. Bowker, 1993, 1109.

email: archives-net-lib at mit.edu

You may also want to look at MIT's  archival access policy on
http://libraries.mit.edu/archives/; it has some important information.

Lisa Taylor


From lgoering at carleton.edu  Fri Jul 30 20:28:24 1999
From: lgoering at carleton.edu (Laura Goering)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:28:24 -0500
Subject: vocabulary programs
Message-ID: <FRI.30.JUL.1999.152824.0500.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

I would like to find a program that would allow students to build their own
vocabulary lists over the course of a semester and then take randomized
quizzes.  Is there such a program out there? Thanks in advance for any tips.
Laura Goering


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Laura Goering
Associate Professor of Russian
Dept. of German and Russian
Carleton College
Northfield, MN 55057
Tel: 507-646-4125


From yoo.3 at osu.edu  Fri Jul 30 23:37:53 1999
From: yoo.3 at osu.edu (Yoo, Syeng-Mann)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:37:53 -0700
Subject: vocabulary programs
In-Reply-To: <01JE6I4NT1C091WBRV@carleton.edu>
Message-ID: <FRI.30.JUL.1999.163753.0700.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

There are some free softwares available on the internet
(http://www.slavophilia.net/download.htm) for Russian Dictionary.
Russian-English & English-Russian Dictionary is an excellent FREE Win95/98
Russian-English-Russian dictionary program. It can also be used as a thesaurus
and includes Basic and Advanced Language Tests.



At 03:28 PM 7/30/99 -0500, you wrote:
>I would like to find a program that would allow students to build their own
>vocabulary lists over the course of a semester and then take randomized
>quizzes.  Is there such a program out there? Thanks in advance for any tips.
>Laura Goering
>
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Laura Goering
>Associate Professor of Russian
>Dept. of German and Russian
>Carleton College
>Northfield, MN 55057
>Tel: 507-646-4125
>

Sincerely




Syeng-Mann Yoo

---------------------------------------------------------
232 Cunz Hall 1841 Millikin Rd.
Columbus, OH 43210
(Tel) 614-292-9827
(Tel / Fax) 614-688-0569

Visit "Slavophilia" (Slavic and East European Internet Resource) at
http://www.slavophilia.net
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From john.mackay at yale.edu  Fri Jul 30 20:40:08 1999
From: john.mackay at yale.edu (John Mackay)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:40:08 -0400
Subject: hegel
Message-ID: <FRI.30.JUL.1999.164008.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Does anyone know whether Hegel's "Phenomenology of the Spirit" has been
translated into Russian? If so (and it probably has), by whom? Many
thanks!

J.


From mllemily at acsu.buffalo.edu  Fri Jul 30 21:12:51 1999
From: mllemily at acsu.buffalo.edu (Emily Tall)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:12:51 -0400
Subject: Draitser's book
Message-ID: <FRI.30.JUL.1999.171251.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Does anyone know where Emil Draitser's book, "Forbidden Laughter," may be
found? A colleague (e-mail impaired) wants to use it for a course this
fall and the bookstore has been unable to find it (and the author is in
Europe). Thanks! Emily Tall


From llt at hawaii.edu  Sat Jul 31 00:00:24 1999
From: llt at hawaii.edu (Language Learning & Technology)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:00:24 -1000
Subject: LLT Vol3No1 now available!
Message-ID: <FRI.30.JUL.1999.140024.1000.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

*** Please Repost ***

We are happy to announce that Volume 3, Number 1 of Language Learning &
Technology is now available at http://polyglot.cal.msu.edu/llt. The
contents are listed below.

Please visit the LLT web site and be sure to enter your free subscription
if you have not already done so. Also, we welcome your submissions of
articles, reviews, and commentaries for future issues. Check our
guidelines for submission at http://polyglot.cal.msu.edu/llt/contrib.html

***Feature Articles***

1.  A foot in the world of ideas: Graduate study through the Internet
by David Nunan

2.  Web-based Activities and SLA: A Conversation Analysis Research
Approach
by Raffaella Negretti

3.  A Model for listening and viewing comprehension in multimedia
environments
by Debra Hoven

***Columns***

>>From the Editors
by Mark Warschauer and Irene Thompson

On the Net
Interactive Language Exercises on the Web: An Exemplar
by Jean W. LeLoup & Robert Ponterio

Emerging Technologies
Web Metadata: More Efficient Resource Cataloging and Retrieving
by Bob Godwin-Jones

Announcements

News from Sponsoring Organizations

***Reviews***

CALL Environments: Research, Practice, and Critical Issues
by Joy Egbert and Elizabeth Hanson-Smith (Eds.)
Reviewed by Saad AlKahtani

New Ways Of Learning And Teaching: Focus On Technology And Foreign
Language Education
by Judith A. Muyskens, Editor
Reviewed by Travis Bradley and Lara Lomicka

Electronic Literacies: Language Culture and Power in Online Education
by Mark Warschauer
Reviewed by Loretta F. Kasper

Un Misterio en Toluca
by Walter C. Oliver and Terri J. Nelson
Reviewed by Jennifer Leeman

Cyberbuch
by Dorothy Chun & Jan Plass
Reviewed by Alene Moyer

Constructing the Paragraph
by Computers for Education
Reviewed by Mark Peterson

***Call for Papers***

Theme: Computer-assisted language testing


From greenbrg at kuhub.cc.ukans.edu  Sat Jul 31 08:04:23 1999
From: greenbrg at kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Marc L. Greenberg)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 10:04:23 +0200
Subject: Fwd: MOSTOVI: Hrpski jezicki standard (now: Montenegrin)
In-Reply-To: <SEELANGS%1999073009263353@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Message-ID: <SAT.31.JUL.1999.100423.0200.>

Armin Hetzer wrote:

/.../
> >least. Obviously, this is an error. What is the current standard of
> >Montenegro - Crnogorski, I suppose? Because I have found a book title
> >Crnogorski pravopis.
/.../

There is an article that speaks about the nascent Montenegrin
standard in a book edited by A. Dulichenko: Jazyki bol'shie i malye
(Tartu, 1998?). Unfortunately, I'm away from home right now and do
not have access to the title of the article nor the exact date of the
book (which was published within the last few years). I would guess
that at the moment the language question in Montenegro is in flux,
along with the social and political situation.

Best wishes,

Marc
=======================================
Marc L. Greenberg
Dept. of Slavic Languages
2134 Wescoe Hall
University of Kansas 66045-2174
USA

Temporary address in Slovenia (June 9 to Aug. 3):

pri Pirnat
Vir, Subiceva 18
1230 Domzale
Slovenia

Tel. +386-61/714-330
Fax: 1-209-885-6249 (J-Fax is
in the US and will reach me by e-mail)


From greenbrg at kuhub.cc.ukans.edu  Sat Jul 31 15:04:56 1999
From: greenbrg at kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Marc L. Greenberg)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 17:04:56 +0200
Subject: (Fwd) Montenegrin
Message-ID: <SAT.31.JUL.1999.170456.0200.>

This was brought to my attention by Dr. M. Suleiman.
FYI.
MLG
------- Forwarded Message Follows -------
Date sent:              Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:35:01 +0100
From:                   Muhammed Suleiman <suleiman at lineone.net>
Subject:                Montenegrin
To:                     greenbrg at KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU

With regard to the Montenegrin languge, might I suggest that any interested
parties take a look at
   http://www.montenegro.org/language.html
which gives a general account of the 'language'.

Regards,

Dr M. Suleiman

Apologies for sending this directly to you, I seem to have a problem sending
to SEELANGS.

=======================================
Marc L. Greenberg
Dept. of Slavic Languages
2134 Wescoe Hall
University of Kansas 66045-2174
USA

Temporary address in Slovenia (June 9 to Aug. 3):

pri Pirnat
Vir, Subiceva 18
1230 Domzale
Slovenia

Tel. +386-61/714-330
Fax: 1-209-885-6249 (J-Fax is
in the US and will reach me by e-mail)


From BrianLeh at aol.com  Sat Jul 31 15:23:25 1999
From: BrianLeh at aol.com (Brian K. Lehmann)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 11:23:25 EDT
Subject: vocabulary programs
Message-ID: <SAT.31.JUL.1999.112325.EDT.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

I
Dear Laura,

 If you mean a computer vocabulary program, there is one with Transparent
 Language.  It starts with about a thousand practical words and allows
 students to add their own words to the list.  The program is called
 "Vocabulary Master".  I just happened to be investigating it this morning
 before I read your message.  I don't have it and of course have no idea
 whether it is any good.

 Contact at:     http://www.transparent.com or call at 1-800-752-1767.


Good luck in your search!

Brian

Brianleh at aol.com


From alesta at banet.net  Sat Jul 31 18:08:59 1999
From: alesta at banet.net (A & S)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:08:59 -0400
Subject: Rasputin's "Siberia on Fire"
Message-ID: <SAT.31.JUL.1999.140859.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Dear SEELangers,

does anyone happen to own or have easy access to Valentin Rasputin's
"Siberia on Fire" for a quick look-up of the exact titles of stories and
essays included in this volume?  What Russian editions of his work also
contain these?  Thanks so much.

Elena Rosenberg


From hlmurav at ucdavis.edu  Sat Jul 31 21:45:59 1999
From: hlmurav at ucdavis.edu (Harriet Murav)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:45:59 -0700
Subject: Rasputin's "Siberia on Fire"
Message-ID: <SAT.31.JUL.1999.144559.0700.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

>Dear SEELangers,
>
>does anyone happen to own or have easy access to Valentin Rasputin's
>"Siberia on Fire" for a quick look-up of the exact titles of stories and
>essays included in this volume?  What Russian editions of his work also
>contain these?  Thanks so much.
>
>Elena Rosenberg

In the English edition selected, edited, and translated by Gerald Mikkelson
and Margaret Winchell, Northern Illinois Press, 1989
Vasily and Vsilisa
French Lessons
Live and Love
What Should I TEll the Crow?
The Fire
Auntie Ulita
Essays
Your siberia and Mine
How Did they End Up in Irkutski
Baikal
What We Have:  A Baikal Prologue Without an Epilogue
Yours Son, Russia, and Our Passionate Brother:  On Vasily Shukshin
The Truths of Aleksandr Vampilov

Harriet Murav
Professor of Russian and Comparative Literature
University of California, Davis
Davis, CA 95616
   email: hlmurav at ucdavis.edu
Office Phone: (916) 752-1971



From roman at admin.ut.ee  Sun Jul 11 15:29:40 1999
From: roman at admin.ut.ee (r_l)
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 18:29:40 +0300
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <SUN.11.JUL.1999.182940.0300.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Elena Mikhailik wrote:

>
> The name of the murdered journalist was Larissa Udina.  Information on her
>

Yudina.
Sincerely,
R_L