From sher07 at BELLSOUTH.NET Sat Apr 1 10:15:29 2000 From: sher07 at BELLSOUTH.NET (Benjamin Sher) Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 04:15:29 -0600 Subject: Huge Collection of Philosophical Etexts in Russian Message-ID: Dear friends: I would like to call your attention to a phenomenal, unique and huge collection of philosophical etexts on line. This database has been compiled and is maintained by Prof. Maxim Lebedev of MGU. It includes not only an exhaustive collection of Russian philosophical etexts but of Western philosophy in general, for instance, Plato and Aristotle, Descartes and Hegel and Kant. Most of their works are available in their entirety. I also wish to thank Father Janos for calling this to my attention. You will find the site listed on my Index under Philosophy (and also elsewhere) or you may access it directly at: http://www.philosophy.ru/library/library.html Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher sher07 at bellsouth.net Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sher07 at BELLSOUTH.NET Sun Apr 2 10:44:04 2000 From: sher07 at BELLSOUTH.NET (Benjamin Sher) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 05:44:04 -0500 Subject: 5 priceless Vysotsky dramatic videos Message-ID: Dear friends: To see these 5 videos (about 3-4 minutes each) on RealPlayer, go to: http://kulichki.rambler.ru/vv/ovys/teatr/ You may download these five files, but, unless you have broadband, they will each take about a half hour. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher sher07 at bellsouth.net Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sher07 at BELLSOUTH.NET Sun Apr 2 10:58:47 2000 From: sher07 at BELLSOUTH.NET (Benjamin Sher) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 05:58:47 -0500 Subject: Russian Sports, Women and Folklore Message-ID: Dear friends: I would like to expand the Sports section of my Index. If any of you come across interesting Web sites on Russian sports -- any sports -- which are not listed on my site, please let me know. Similarly, for the section on Women and Folkways. If you find any good sites, let me know. If you find any outdated sites that are clearly dead, let me know, too. Thank you so much. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher sher07 at bellsouth.net Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From kimjast at YAHOO.COM Sun Apr 2 20:02:51 2000 From: kimjast at YAHOO.COM (Kim Jastremski) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 13:02:51 -0700 Subject: African-American Literary Ties to Russia: Call for Papers Message-ID: The Session on Slavic Studies of the South Atlantic MLA announces a CALL FOR PAPERS: AFRICAN-AMERICAN LITERARY TIES TO RUSSIA Please submit title and one-page abstract addressing the literary and intellectual dialogue between African-Americans and Russians. Possible topics include: African�Americans in Russia; Russian Thought and the Black Intellectual; African-American Experience in the Early Communist Party; Russian Views on African America Deadline: May 15, 2000 The 2000 South Atlantic MLA Conference will be held November 10-12 in Birmingham, Alabama. For conference registration information visit www.samla.org Contacts: Kathleen Ahern k_ahern at uncg.edu Kim Jastremski kjastrem at email.unc.edu __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From continent at HOME.COM Sun Apr 2 22:01:50 2000 From: continent at HOME.COM (Marina Adamovitch) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 18:01:50 -0400 Subject: 102nd issue of Continent Message-ID: Dear friends, I would like to call your attention to the latest 102nd issue of the Moscow based journal Continent. The issue is based entirely on the works of authors who live in the United States, and its publication was sponsored in part by the US embassy in Moscow. In this issue you will find new poems of Lev Loseff and Vladimir Gandelsman; philosophical essays of Mikhail Epstein on the cultural tendencies in the new millennium; Helena Goscilo's study of "new Russians"; papers about Pushkin by V. Erlich, C. Theimer-Nepomnyashchy, S. Davidov and others; exclusive memoirs of E. Slobodkin about the Russian American avant-garde in the 20's, a bibliographical review of Russian language journals in the US, a paper of psychologist R. Belenky on the current state of the Russian orphanage system, and many other exciting works of the members of Russian Diaspora in the US. In addition, the last year issue N 100 of the journal is devoted to the 25 anniversary of Continent that was founded by V. Maksimov in Paris. The issue contains the content of all 100 issues of the journal. You may contact Continent by sending an e-mail message to one of the following addresses: ykrotov at yahoo.com or continent at home.com Marina Adamovitch ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From yamato at YT.CACHE.WASEDA.AC.JP Mon Apr 3 06:51:21 2000 From: yamato at YT.CACHE.WASEDA.AC.JP (Yoshimasa Tsuji) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 15:51:21 +0900 Subject: a great search engine Message-ID: Hello friends, While in Moscow last week, I visited ABBYY and asked their sales manager Ljudmila Aleksandrovna for a trial version of TextRetrival & Morphology Engine (the trial version lasts for sixty days from the date of non-disclosure agreement). Having just tried a bit of it now, I can say it is a really great utility -- you can ask the morphology server what's , and it will answer you it's the genetive case, singular, of , etc. If you ask a full paradigm of the word , it will answer you superbly. It is surely based on Zaliznjak, but the very first glance will tell you that it is much, much richer than Zaliznjak. In short, it is the engine that drives popular software like "lingvo6" or "Prompt98"... I must buy a copy when I have sufficient study grants. (To be honest, the text retrieval system is not necessary at all, as everyone now has got one if one has a duly large corpus of text. What one needs is the morphology engine at that quality.) Have a look at "http://www.abbyy.ru" if you are going to build a seach engine of your own. Incidentally, I have found http://www.rambler.ru http://www.aport.ru yet another (sorry cannot remember, but it's elsewhere in the Bookmark). sufficiently useful for searching all kinds of things, including studies of the Russian economy. Cheers, Tsuji ----- P.S. If you have sufficient study grants but haven't got the skill of writing API's (which requires Windows programming knowledge), let me work with you: programming languages are not the slightest problem for me. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ilon at UT.EE Mon Apr 3 09:39:31 2000 From: ilon at UT.EE (Ilon Fraiman) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 12:39:31 +0300 Subject: ruthenia news Message-ID: Dobryj den'! Na "Rutenii" vy mozhete prochitat' soobschenie o konferencii "Iskusstvo, texnologija i sovremennost' v Rossii i Vostochnoj Evrope", provodimoj v Kolumbijskom universitete: http://www.ruthenia.ru/hronika.html?date=2000-03-31#202539 V Kembridzhe zavershila rabotu ezhegodnaja konferencija BASEES http://www.ruthenia.ru/hronika.html?date=2000-04-01#202577 a v Illionojse - ezhegodnaja konferencija slavistov Srednego Zapada: http://www.ruthenia.ru/hronika.html?date=2000-04-01#202576 Ezhegodnaja zhe konferencija Kanadskoj associacii slavistov sostoitsja v Edmontone s 27 po 29 maja: http://www.ruthenia.ru/anonslist.html?date=2000-05-27#2000-05-27 V Tallinskom pedagogicheskom universitete prof. L. I. Vol'pert chitaet speckurs: http://www.ruthenia.ru/anonslist.html?date=2000-04-03#2000-04-03 V mae tam zhe vystupit K. A. Ospovat s ciklom lekcij po russkoj ode: http://www.ruthenia.ru/anonslist.html?date=2000-05-02#2000-05-02 Kandidatskaja dissertacija po A. T. Bolotovu budet zaschischat'sja 13 aprelja v Sankt-Peterburgskom gosudarstvennom universitete: http://www.ruthenia.ru/anonslist.html?date=2000-04-13#2000-04-13 Informacija o novyx knigax "O. G. I." i oglavlenija etix knig sm.: http://www.ruthenia.ru/hronika.html?date=2000-03-31#202515 Novye postuplenija v ehlektronnyj katalog RGB: http://www.ruthenia.ru/hronika.html?date=2000-04-01#202575 Krome togo, nami opublikovany 4 stat'i iz Tjutchevskogo sbornika II: http://www.ruthenia.ru/document/196629.html http://www.ruthenia.ru/document/202573.html http://www.ruthenia.ru/document/202591.html http://www.ruthenia.ru/document/202800.html Zadat' vopros ili vyskazat' svoe mnenie ob etix stat'jax vy mozhete v razdele "Diskussii": http://www.ruthenia.ru/board/board.phtml Kstati, tam zhe opublikovany materialy diskussii stixovedov Dzh. Behjli i V. Semenova o ritmike I. Brodskogo. Na "Rutenii" teper' dostupna v ehlektronnom vide xronika kul'turnoj zhizni 70-x godov, sostavlennaja I. P. Uvarovoj i K. Rogovym: http://www.ruthenia.ru/document/202590.html Fol'klorist V. Lur'e publikuet na svoem "Kiberstole" polnye teksty dissertacij svoix kolleg i nekotorye fol'kloristicheskie knigi i sborniki nauchnyx statej: http://www.ruthenia.ru/hronika.html?date=2000-04-01#202569 Ob opyte republikacii v internete slovarja Dalja chitajte v "Ssylke nedeli": http://www.ruthenia.ru/document/202609.html Vsex blag, Ilon Fraiman staff at ruthenia.ru ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From k.r.hauge at EAST.UIO.NO Mon Apr 3 13:54:18 2000 From: k.r.hauge at EAST.UIO.NO (Kjetil Ra Hauge) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 15:54:18 +0200 Subject: Professor Alf Grannes in memoriam Message-ID: Alf Grannes, Professor of Russian at Bergen University, passed quietly away on 2 April. Apart from his work on Russian and Polish, some of which was collected in his Izbrannye trudy po russkomu i slavjanskomu jazykoznaniju, Moscow 1998, he was also known for his studies on Turkisms in Bulgarian (Turco-Bulgarica : articles in English and French concerning Turkish influence on Bulgarian, Wiesbaden 1996); and the Nordic audience knew him as an authority on matters of nationality and nationhood in the Soviet Union and its successor states. He had been suffering for a few years from a disease that gradually paralysed his muscular functions, but he still managed to carry on his research with the means at his disposal. He is survived by his wife and his son. --- Kjetil Ra Hauge, U. of Oslo. --- Tel. +47/22 85 67 10, fax +47/22 85 41 40 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From brifkin at FACSTAFF.WISC.EDU Mon Apr 3 16:10:20 2000 From: brifkin at FACSTAFF.WISC.EDU (Benjamin Rifkin) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 11:10:20 -0500 Subject: job opportunity Message-ID: I encourage SEELANGers to spread word of this exciting opportunity at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. Working Title: Project Coordinator for FL Technology Initiative in Advanced-Level Listening Comprehension Official Title: Outreach Specialist, PVL # 36991 Degree Required: MA in ESL or foreign language required; PhD/EdD preferred Minimum number of years and type of relevant work experience: Required: 2-3 years teaching ESL or a foreign language; fluency in English and one other language; supervisory experience. Preferred: Experience in directing or coordinating projects involving the use of technology-based materials in higher education; experience in instructional design and development, educational research/evaluation or related areas. Principal Duties: The goal of the "Advanced L2 Listening and Viewing Comprehension Project" is to develop and disseminate listening and viewing modules to enhance students' comprehension in a broad range of languages and cultures; to develop a pedagogical plan for integrating these modules into the general language curriculum; to produce and test modules in a number of languages; and to facilitate the production and utilization of articulated sequences of such modules in as many languages as possible. A key aspect of this project will be to adapt or develop a universal authoring program that will enable instructors to include any listening and viewing materials they choose in any language they wish. The modules are to be created on Web-based and DVD-ROM platforms and are intended for individualized learning activities outside the classroom. The project coordinator will manage the development of the listening and viewing modules with the following tasks: - Supervise the development team consisting of programmers, instructional designers, media specialists, and evaluators and manage the timely completion of tasks assigned to the development team. - Work together with faculty and team members (meeting with faculty and team members, promoting the sharing of ideas and approaches among faculty and team members, keeping faculty and team members to the agreed-upon timeline, working with faculty who are language experts on the content of the individual language projects) to identify detailed objectives for the development of language-specific projects in accordance with the project's stated goals; develop ideas to achieve project goals to promote the development of students' listening and viewing comprehension at the advanced level in the targeted languages. - Work with the team as a team player (have good listening skills) to design prototypes of the language projects in several languages. - Facilitate a continuing dialogue between the team and the faculty/staff to make sure that the project prototypes are successful and to get feedback as to aspects that need improvement in the next version of the given prototype as modules and activities are being developed. - Ensure that components of the project are consistent with its overall vision and scope by checking in frequently with the director of the project and the faculty on the project committee. - Develop time line and supervise/coordinate project tasks to keep project on schedule and within budget. Conduct status meetings as needed. - Assist the project's faculty director toplane and coordinate the evaluation of the project by means of qualitative assessments including assessing faculty members' views of the project as it unfolds and qualitative formative and quantitative summary assessments of students' views of the project including, but not limited to, focus groups, prototype testing, surveys, comparisons of pre- and post-learning outcomes. Successful applicants must have a vision for the role of instructional technology in post-secondary education; leadership ability; ability to work independently as well as cooperatively with a team; strong interpersonal skills; excellent verbal and written communication skills; and excellent organizational skills. Application: No applications will be accepted by e-mail. To ensure consideration, apply by 28 April 2000. Send letter of application, resume, focusing on qualifications for duties and the requirements, and the names of 3 referees (and their contact information) to: Associate Professor Benjamin Rifkin Slavic Department 1432 Van Hise Hall 1220 Linden Dr. Madison, WI 53706-1525 Please refer to PVL # 36991 in the letter of application. Salary: Minimum $35,000 annual (12 months) depending on qualifications. Term: This is a renewable appointment. Evaluation: A period of evaluation will be required. Note: Unless confidentiality is requested in writing, information regarding th enames of applicants must be released upon request. Finalists cannot be guaranteed confidentiality. UW-Madison is an equal opportunity/affirmative action employer. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Benjamin Rifkin, Assoc. Prof., Slavic Dept., UW-Madison 1432 Van Hise Hall, 1220 Linden Dr., Madison, WI 53706 USA voice: (608) 262-1623; fax: (608) 265-2814 Director of the Russian School, Middlebury College Freeman International Center, Middlebury, VT 05753 USA voice: (802) 443-5533 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ccosner at DEPAUW.EDU Mon Apr 3 20:12:12 2000 From: ccosner at DEPAUW.EDU (Christopher Cosner) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 15:12:12 -0500 Subject: Russian art on CD-rom Message-ID: Thank you to everyone who replied/inquired about the 1000 Years of Russian Art on CD-rom. Three people wrote back to say very complimentary things about the CD. The URL again: http://www.art-history.com/faccollect.html#1000 YEARS OF RUSSIAN ART Or you can just go to www.art-history.com and navigate toward CD-rom materials from there. It is listed at $59.00 on this site. Among the comments: The CD is mac and PC compatible, the graphics are of high quality, you can search the database according to several criteria, and the selections are good, though in some cases not what one would choose given the choice of any collection. Images can be rearranged selectively to create a slide show (I suspect one would have to store the data for the arrangement of the slide show on a diskette or network for portability's sake). One negative: the images are protected in such a way that they cannot be printed or re-mounted on the web. This is of course perfectly reasonable, since it is a commercial product. Sounds like a very useful teaching tool. ___________________________________ Chris Cosner Assistant Professor of Russian Modern Languages Department DePauw University Greencastle, IN 46135 office: 765/ 658-4749 home: 765/ 653-2876 e-mail: ccosner at depauw.edu ___________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From j.m.andrew at LANG.KEELE.AC.UK Tue Apr 4 09:04:40 2000 From: j.m.andrew at LANG.KEELE.AC.UK (J.M. Andrew) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 10:04:40 +0100 Subject: Platonov Conference Message-ID: 'A HUNDRED YEARS OF ANDREI PLATONOV' A conference to mark the centenary of the birth of Andrei Platonov to be held at Mansfield College, Oxford, 11-12 September, 2000 under the auspices of the Neo-Formalist Circle. Organisers: Angela Livingstone, Joe Andrew and Robert Reid. We are pleased to announce this conference. About twenty papers will be delivered at the conference, organised by the Neo-Formalist Circle to celebrate the centenary of the birth of Andrei Platonov in 1899. The conference will bring together Platonov specialists from a variety of countries and the papers proposed include both textually based and comparative approaches to the writer's work. This two-day conference promises to be a significant milestone in Platonov studies. The following are the proposed papers, though there may some adjustment to the programme in due course. For further information please contact Angela Livingstone , Robert Reid or Joe Andrew . Further details of the finalised programme, together with booking forms will be available in June. Philip Bullock (Oxford): Platonov and Judaism Robert Chandler (London): Listening to Platonov Roger Cockrell (Exeter): Images of the Sky in Chevengur Annie Epelboin (Paris): To be confirmed Hans Guenther (Bielefeld): Platonov and the Utopian Genre Robert Hodel (Hamburg): The Demodalising of Utterance: Chekhov, Platonov, Prigov Hamid Ismailov (London): Platonov's Dzhan as a Sufi Treatise Marina Koch (Paris): To be confirmed Thomas Langerak (Amsterdam): City-Planning and Platonov's Kotlovan Angela Livingstone (Essex): The Dangers of Reading Platonov Nina Malygina (Moscow): Manuscript Variants of the Story O potukhshei lampe Il'icha Olga Meerson (Georgetown): Re-automatisation in Andrei Platonov: A Formalist Criterion for an Axiology Audun Mxrch (Oslo): Irony and Satire in Platonov and Dostoevsky: Gorod Gradov and Krokodil Eric Naiman (Berkeley): Happy Moscow: Lexical Heroes and the Ideological Picaresque Natalya Poltavtseva (Moscow): The Pushkin Text in Platonov Thomas Seifrid (South California): Forms of Belatedness in Platonov's Prose Helen Tolstoy (Jerusalem): To be confirmed Anat Vernitski (Essex): Women Work, Men Muse: Gender Roles in Platonov's Short Stories Valery Vyugin (St Petersburg): The Poetics of Enigma and the Enigma of Poetics Hallie White (Boston): Happy Moscow and the Unbearable Present Emma Widdis (Cambridge): Energetika: Platonov's Electrified Spaces and the Aesthetics of Soviet Montage ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From eginzbur at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Tue Apr 4 14:04:47 2000 From: eginzbur at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (elizabeth ginzburg) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 09:04:47 -0500 Subject: Platonov Conference Message-ID: otvechaiu - spasibo! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sher07 at BELLSOUTH.NET Wed Apr 5 00:40:24 2000 From: sher07 at BELLSOUTH.NET (Benjamin Sher) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 19:40:24 -0500 Subject: Index down due to network problems Message-ID: Dear friends: My Bellsouth web host has informed me that there was a major breakdown on the Internet today having to do with domain names. That's why my Index is unavailable. They promised me that it will be back online later tonight after 11 p.m. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher sher07 at bellsouth.net Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From m-greenberg at UKANS.EDU Wed Apr 5 10:42:37 2000 From: m-greenberg at UKANS.EDU (Marc L. Greenberg) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 05:42:37 -0500 Subject: Call for papers: The Romantic Epic Poem (Ljubljana, Dec. 2000) Message-ID: A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 1588 bytes Desc: not available URL: From reei at INDIANA.EDU Wed Apr 5 20:22:45 2000 From: reei at INDIANA.EDU (Russian & East European Institute, David L. Ransel, Director) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 15:22:45 -0500 Subject: Indiana University ACLS funding Message-ID: ANNNOUNCEMENT ANNOUNCEMENT ANNOUNCEMENT The Summer Workshop at Indiana University is pleased to announce that it has received funding from the ACLS for the following Central and East European languages: - First-year Czech, Polish, Romanian, Serbian/Croatian and Slovene - Second-year Polish The courses above will be tuition-free to graduate students in the East/ Central European area. In addition to an expanded series of lectures in this area, the ACLS grant will cover some or all of the costs of books and materials in these courses. For more information call 812-855-1648 or 812-855-2608 or e-mail: jkolodzi at indiana edu or: swseel at indiana.edu Jerzy Kolodziej, Director Summer Workshop in Slavic, East European, and Central Asian Languages Indiana University www.indiana.edu/~iuslavic/swseel.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From s.hutchings at SURREY.AC.UK Thu Apr 6 11:21:16 2000 From: s.hutchings at SURREY.AC.UK (Stephen Hutchings) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:21:16 +0000 Subject: RUSSIAN MA Message-ID: A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 3596 bytes Desc: not available URL: From oliverd at BELOIT.EDU Thu Apr 6 09:16:25 2000 From: oliverd at BELOIT.EDU (Donna Oliver) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 10:16:25 +0100 Subject: positions available Message-ID: Dear Colleagues, Please bring this notice to the attention of potential candidates (please note that this announcement is for "senior instructors"--it is different from the one I circulated earlier, which sought "teaching associates"). Thank you. Donna Oliver Associate Professor of Russian Beloit College ***** BELOIT COLLEGE CENTER FOR LANGUAGE STUDIES (CLS) Positions Available in Russian Senior Instructors Job Description Senior instructors are needed for Beloit College's summer intensive Russian program (June 11, - August 11, 2000). In 2000, we expect to offer 1st-, 2nd-, 3rd-, and 4th year Russian. Each level, with an average enrollment of six to eight students, has one instructor and one teaching associate who share teaching and evaluation responsibilities with a lead instructor. Instructors collaborate with each other and the CLS Director on curriculum, syllabi, and instruction. Duties include classroom teaching and evaluation, and assistance with organizing cultural activities for the program. Instructors will be expected to live on-campus (single occupancy), eat meals with the students at lunch in the dining commons, and be available to students evenings and weekends. Beloit College is located off of Interstate 90 in Beloit, WI, a city of 35,000 on the Wisconsin-Illinois border. Beloit is an hour from Madison, an hour and a quarter from Milwaukee, an hour and a half from O'Hare airport, and two hours from downtown Chicago. Minimum qualifications include an M.A. in Russian (Ph.D. or ABD preferred), teaching experience (preferably in an immersion environment), superior proficiency in Russian and advanced proficiency in English. Compensation: stipend, housing, and meals. Employment is contingent upon new employees providing documents verifying U.S. citizenship or, for non-citizens, documents verifying legal permission to work in the United States. Send letter of application, curriculum vitae, and two letters of recommendation (letters should speak to the candidate's classroom teaching) to Dr. Terance Bigalke, Center for Language Studies, Beloit College, 700 College Street, Beloit WI 53511, 608/363-2277. Applications will be accepted until the positions are filled, but review will begin April 21, 2000. AA/EEO Employer. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sher07 at BELLSOUTH.NET Thu Apr 6 17:22:04 2000 From: sher07 at BELLSOUTH.NET (Benjamin Sher) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 12:22:04 -0500 Subject: Russian Communities Abroad Message-ID: Dear friends: I have added a special section in my Index under Megasites called Places, where I have listed a variety of web sites devoted to specific Russian communities abroad, such as New York, London, etc. If you know of such communities that have a WEB SITE and would like to have it listed, please let me know. Thank you. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher sher07 at bellsouth.net Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From alancarmack at MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU Fri Apr 7 06:39:38 2000 From: alancarmack at MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU (Mr Carmack) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 23:39:38 -0700 Subject: Query: good 2nd year conversation book Message-ID: The subject line says it all. I am finishing 1st year Russian and am in search of a good, down-to-earth book that I and a Russian conversation partner can use so that I can actually speak the languagee I am supposed to be learning. Joseph Alan Carmack MA, TEFL UT/Austin ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From yamato at YT.CACHE.WASEDA.AC.JP Fri Apr 7 08:20:14 2000 From: yamato at YT.CACHE.WASEDA.AC.JP (Yoshimasa Tsuji) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 17:20:14 +0900 Subject: budet-li ? Message-ID: Dear friends, I have noticed that the Russian interrogative particle
  • is often hyphenated with the preceding verb in pre-1918 orthography. Having cursorily read through Grot's "Russkoe pravopisanie", I couldn't establish how standard it used to be. Is someone kind enough to give me pointers to a reference book on this matter? Thanks, Tsuji ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From a.jameson at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Apr 6 15:22:16 2000 From: a.jameson at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Andrew Jameson) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 16:22:16 +0100 Subject: RUSSIAN MA Message-ID: Dear Stephen, This is how your posting comes out on my system. Maybe you'd be better off using plain body text after all? ATB Andrew Jameson Chair, Russian Committee, ALL Languages and Professional Development 1 Brook Street, Lancaster LA1 1SL UK Tel: 01524 32371 (+44 1524 32371) ---------- From: Stephen Hutchings To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU Subject: RUSSIAN MA Date: 06 April 2000 12:21 Stencil1-Year MA in Russian Studies TimesThe School of Language and International Studies at Surrey University, UK, is offering a new one-year MA in Russian Studies,. StencilWHAT IS ON OFFERTimes: * A one-year MA course from an institution rated top among UK universities for its success in placing its graduates in employment and situated 30 minutes from London in one of the most picturesque corners of England. * Two alternative tracks Track A: for graduates with degree-level Russian wishing to combine advanced level language study with the background knowledge necessary to compete for job opportunities in commerce, the media and the foreign service Track B: for humanities and social sciences graduates without Russian wishing to acquire a specialised knowledge of Russian society and politics, and a good working knowledge of the Russian language which could be developed into a useful research tool * Both Tracks available on a Part-time Basis * A six-week period in St Petersburg spent taking courses in Russian Politics, Economics and Society taught by academics from St Petersburg University * Core courses at Surrey in Postcommunist Russian Society, and Film and the Mass Media, together with a range of options including Ideology and Literature, National Identity and Ethnicity, Russian Business Language, and The Changing Face of Eastern Europe * Study of Theories of Translation, + Advanced Russian language + specialised courses in Economic, Political, Legal and Technical translation (Track A), or an intensive Beginners' course reaching the level attained in the third year of a US Russian degree program (Track B) * An MA thesis written on a topic chosen by the student and supervised by one of a number of scholars with international reputations and the following research interests: Professor Peter Barta (Cinema, Urban Studies, Women's issues, Literature, Eastern Europe) Dr Graham Roberts (Cinema, Modernist Literature, Business, Economics) Professor Greville Corbett (Slavic Linguistics, Endangered Languages) Dr Stephen Hutchings (Religion, the Mass Media, Russian Culture and Thought) * A special focus on visual media and the new technologies, drawing on the Russian Section's Satellite TV facilities, extensive video and film holdings and Russian Internet websites available in a state-of-the-art computer workshop StencilWHAT NEXT? Times* For further details, please contact Dr Stephen Hutchings, School of Language and International Studies, University of Surrey, Guildford GU2 5XH, UK e-mail: S.Hutchings at surrey.ac.uk; fax: 01144 1483 876201; tel: 01144 1483 259952 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dpbrowne+ at PITT.EDU Fri Apr 7 10:03:30 2000 From: dpbrowne+ at PITT.EDU (Devin Browne) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 06:03:30 -0400 Subject: ISO ACTR "Why Study Russian" video Message-ID: A group of us in Pittsburgh working on Russian and K-12 issues are trying to get a copy (or maybe a few) of the ACTR video tape "Why Study Russian." ACTR told one of the people I'm working with that the video is no longer available. Is this true?!? And if so, how could this be true? Is there no master tape available from which more copies can be made? Having this available over the web will not suit our purposes at all, unfortunately. Does anyone have any more current information about this or advice? Devin Devin P Browne dpbrowne+ at pitt.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From daf at MEIRIONNYDD.FORCE9.CO.UK Fri Apr 7 11:24:03 2000 From: daf at MEIRIONNYDD.FORCE9.CO.UK (Daf) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 12:24:03 +0100 Subject: Query: good 2nd year conversation book Message-ID: > search of a good, down-to-earth book that I and a Russian conversation > partner can use so that I can actually speak the languagee I am supposed to > be learning. You could try Khavronina's Let's Speak Russian. It provides many phrases [and exercises] and questions and answers that are a good starting point for conversation. It is hardly the latest thing now, but that doesn't stop it being good. Daf Meirionnydd Languages [web page- http://www.meirionnydd.force9.co.uk ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sher07 at BELLSOUTH.NET Fri Apr 7 11:51:54 2000 From: sher07 at BELLSOUTH.NET (Benjamin Sher) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 06:51:54 -0500 Subject: Russian Biographical Dictionary -- online free Message-ID: Dear friends: Thanks again to Father Janos, I've discovered another astonishing gold mine: The Russian Biographical Dictionary (based on the work of Brockhaus and Efron) available online and free with multimedia (photos, even lots of brief audio clips) at: http://kolibry.cyberpalm.com/about.htm Highly recommend it as the first place to look for any brief account of any Russian of note in any field of endeavor: Arts, Humanities, Science, etc. It is in Russian. You'll find it on my Index under Reference. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher sher07 at bellsouth.net Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sher07 at BELLSOUTH.NET Fri Apr 7 11:52:28 2000 From: sher07 at BELLSOUTH.NET (Benjamin Sher) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 06:52:28 -0500 Subject: Russian Communities Abroad Message-ID: Dear friends: Just a brief note: You will find the Russian Communities on my Index under a new category called "World". I hope with your contributions to expand it to cover Russian communities all over the world. Thank you. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher sher07 at bellsouth.net Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sher07 at BELLSOUTH.NET Fri Apr 7 11:53:08 2000 From: sher07 at BELLSOUTH.NET (Benjamin Sher) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 06:53:08 -0500 Subject: Russian Biographical Dictionary -- a footnotexx Message-ID: Dear friends: A footnote: The Russian Biographical Dictionary includes a special portrait gallery and an audio section, with hundreds of brief audio clips. It uses Java so be sure your Java is on. As you read any entry, click on the "violin" icon anywhere in the text to hear the audio. Try it with Leo Tolstoy. You will hear a very grainy, barely intelligible voice. But it's Tolstoy and it's there. Best wishes. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher sher07 at bellsouth.net Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mzs at UNLSERVE.UNL.EDU Fri Apr 7 13:26:07 2000 From: mzs at UNLSERVE.UNL.EDU (Mila Saskova-Pierce) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 08:26:07 -0500 Subject: Query: good 2nd year conversation book In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Joseph, we, at the university of Nebraska, use for the second year conversation the book by Fushille and Little "Speak Russian" with a great success. Good luck. Mila Saskova-Pierce ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From alancarmack at MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU Fri Apr 7 16:37:11 2000 From: alancarmack at MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU (Mr Carmack) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 09:37:11 -0700 Subject: Query: good 2nd year conversation book In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Do you have any idea where I can get it? Joseph C > Dear Joseph, we, at the university of Nebraska, use for the second year > conversation the book by Fushille and Little "Speak Russian" with a great > success. Good luck. > > Mila Saskova-Pierce ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From alancarmack at MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU Fri Apr 7 16:49:03 2000 From: alancarmack at MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU (Mr Carmack) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 09:49:03 -0700 Subject: Query: good 2nd year conversation book In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Dear Joseph, we, at the university of Nebraska, use for the second year > conversation the book by Fushille and Little "Speak Russian" with a great > success. Good luck. > > Mila Saskova-Pierce Hmmm. I looked at that title under Amazon.com and they do have it in stock. Then I noticed it is apparently published by Univ of Texas Press. I go to Univ of Texas. I do not think it is used for 2nd year Russian here! That is either ironic or something else. Joseph ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From eric.laursen at M.CC.UTAH.EDU Fri Apr 7 16:08:49 2000 From: eric.laursen at M.CC.UTAH.EDU (Eric Laursen) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 10:08:49 -0600 Subject: Query: good 2nd year conversation book Message-ID: I'd like to second that. We use "Speak Russian!" in second year. It's a lot of fun. Eric Laursen ---------- From: Mila Saskova-Pierce[SMTP:mzs at UNLSERVE.UNL.EDU] Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 7:26 AM To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU Subject: Re: Query: good 2nd year conversation book Dear Joseph, we, at the university of Nebraska, use for the second year conversation the book by Fushille and Little "Speak Russian" with a great success. Good luck. Mila Saskova-Pierce ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From centrist_2000 at YAHOO.COM Fri Apr 7 16:30:57 2000 From: centrist_2000 at YAHOO.COM (centrist centrist) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 09:30:57 -0700 Subject: Query: good 2nd year conversation book Message-ID: --- Mr Carmack wrote: > The subject line says it all. I am finishing 1st > year Russian and am in > search of a good, down-to-earth book that I and a > Russian conversation > partner can use so that I can actually speak the > languagee I am supposed to > be learning. > > Joseph Alan Carmack > MA, TEFL > UT/Austin > Hey, we are not far away from each other! I am based in College StationTX, Gig'em Aggies! I have been teaching Rissoan as a second language for 15 years now, and part of my teaching was in Austin, TX. The best book you can find is "Let's Talk about Life" by Krasikova and Tall. It also has some good cassettes. It is not thick and nice to work with. Good luck! Pavel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mllemily at ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU Fri Apr 7 16:08:49 2000 From: mllemily at ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU (Emily Tall) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 16:08:49 +0000 Subject: Query: good 2nd year conversation book Message-ID: As the main author of "Let's Talk About Life," (the other author is Vlasikova, not Krasikova, and it's available from John Wiley & Sons,) I should note that the book is not really for second year. It's more suitable for third or fourth year (not that I don't want to sell copies...) Regards, Emily Tall centrist centrist wrote: > --- Mr Carmack wrote: > > The subject line says it all. I am finishing 1st > > year Russian and am in > > search of a good, down-to-earth book that I and a > > Russian conversation > > partner can use so that I can actually speak the > > languagee I am supposed to > > be learning. > > > > Joseph Alan Carmack > > MA, TEFL > > UT/Austin > > > Hey, we are not far away from each other! I am based > in College StationTX, Gig'em Aggies! > I have been teaching Rissoan as a second language for > 15 years now, and part of my teaching was in Austin, > TX. > > The best book you can find is "Let's Talk about Life" > by Krasikova and Tall. It also has some good > cassettes. > It is not thick and nice to work with. > Good luck! > > Pavel > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription > options, and more. 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Emily Tall ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From simplify3 at JUNO.COM Fri Apr 7 21:23:41 2000 From: simplify3 at JUNO.COM (Kenneth E Udut) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 17:23:41 -0400 Subject: Query: good 2nd year conversation book Message-ID: Hi Joseph! Consider picking up Pimsleur tapes. They're expensive - but *boy*, they do work! I'm finishing up Russian I with them (30 tapes in all, I'm up to tape 26), and will be ordering Russian II in a few days. Pimsleur really holds your hand through it, pushing you only enough to be able to handle it - and you are completely guided throughout the tapes. I'm very pleased with it. I paid $279+ for Russian I at amazon.com, but a friend here on SEELANGS pointed me to booksamillion.com - where you can find the Pimsleur tapes for $159 if you are not a booksamillion member, and $139 if you are a booksamillion member. You wont hear a single grammar term in all of the tapes, but you will go over them. And over, and over - and strangely enough, his techniques are based on Dr Paul Pimsleur's own research, which was *not* based on Chomsky, but rather on BF Skinner!!! Anyhow - that's my suggestion. Also, pick up from Slavica.com Gribble's Russian Root List. -Kenneth simplify3 at juno.com, kenneth.udut at spcorp.com On Thu, 6 Apr 2000 23:39:38 -0700 Mr Carmack writes: > The subject line says it all. I am finishing 1st year Russian and am > in > search of a good, down-to-earth book that I and a Russian > conversation > partner can use so that I can actually speak the languagee I am > supposed to > be learning. > > Joseph Alan Carmack > MA, TEFL > UT/Austin ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rebecca.e.matveyev at LAWRENCE.EDU Fri Apr 7 23:27:01 2000 From: rebecca.e.matveyev at LAWRENCE.EDU (rebecca matveyev) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 16:27:01 -0700 Subject: genitive plural Message-ID: I'd like to find a comprehensive, definitive list of all Russian nouns with a vocalic ending in nominative singular (and pluralia tantum nouns, if relevant) that do not take a fill vowel in genitive plural. Can anyone suggest a source? Thank you, Rebecca Rebecca Epstein Matveyev Assistant Professor of Russian Lawrence University Appleton, WI 54912 (920) 832-6710 rebecca.e.matveyev at lawrence.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From anthony.j.vanchu1 at JSC.NASA.GOV Fri Apr 7 21:29:49 2000 From: anthony.j.vanchu1 at JSC.NASA.GOV (VANCHU, ANTHONY J. (JSC-AH)) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 16:29:49 -0500 Subject: Query: good 2nd year conversation book Message-ID: The Pimsleur series in Russian is also available in CD-ROM; I don't know the exact cost, but I suspect that, like the tapes, it's also on the pricey side. The series has proven very popular (and effective!) with our students here at the Johnson Space Center as a supplement to classroom activities. It's only drawback-especially for students who might be more visually oriented learners-is that there are no transcripts of the tapes to look at. On the other hand, it forces such learners to rely less on the visual and focus on building aural comprehension skills exclusively. Dr. Anthony J. Vanchu Russian Language Program Director TTI/JSC Language Education Center Johnson Space Center Houston, TX (281) 483-0644 ---------- From: Kenneth E Udut [SMTP:simplify3 at JUNO.COM] Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 4:24 PM To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU Subject: Re: Query: good 2nd year conversation book Hi Joseph! Consider picking up Pimsleur tapes. They're expensive - but *boy*, they do work! I'm finishing up Russian I with them (30 tapes in all, I'm up to tape 26), and will be ordering Russian II in a few days. Pimsleur really holds your hand through it, pushing you only enough to be able to handle it - and you are completely guided throughout the tapes. I'm very pleased with it. I paid $279+ for Russian I at amazon.com, but a friend here on SEELANGS pointed me to booksamillion.com - where you can find the Pimsleur tapes for $159 if you are not a booksamillion member, and $139 if you are a booksamillion member. You wont hear a single grammar term in all of the tapes, but you will go over them. And over, and over - and strangely enough, his techniques are based on Dr Paul Pimsleur's own research, which was *not* based on Chomsky, but rather on BF Skinner!!! Anyhow - that's my suggestion. Also, pick up from Slavica.com Gribble's Russian Root List. -Kenneth simplify3 at juno.com, kenneth.udut at spcorp.com On Thu, 6 Apr 2000 23:39:38 -0700 Mr Carmack writes: > The subject line says it all. I am finishing 1st year Russian and am > in > search of a good, down-to-earth book that I and a Russian > conversation > partner can use so that I can actually speak the languagee I am > supposed to > be learning. > > Joseph Alan Carmack > MA, TEFL > UT/Austin ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From alancarmack at MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU Sat Apr 8 01:40:35 2000 From: alancarmack at MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU (Mr Carmack) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 18:40:35 -0700 Subject: Query: good 2nd year conversation book In-Reply-To: <20000407.172455.-461313.2.simplify3@juno.com> Message-ID: > Consider picking up Pimsleur tapes. They're > expensive - but *boy*, they do work! I saw the first set of 8 tapes at a retail books store but didn't want to shell out $30 or whatever for an unknown. A week later I found the same set in pristine condition at HalfPrice Books and I went ahead and paid half price (or less) for them. Because of their 30-minute side length, they are perfect for my commute to UT. I have mixed opinion about them. I was disappointed that this first set didn't cover much ground. OTOH, I have some sentences and phrases memorized from them that I can spiel off faster than most of my Russian. And also, when we do learn something in class that I have *already* heard on the tapes, the concept is easier to grasp. You may remember that in tape 6 or so, the phrase "Do you want to get something toi eat?" and "To drink?" "Something" was [sto-nibut] which I had problems hearing at first, but then I learned how to prenounce. Then two months later we covered [sto-nibut] (sorry, I really have never learned how to transliterate properly) in class and the two sources coalesced and I connected the aural with the visual and grammtical and found it to be a bit intuitive. I just took a test yesterday, and I changed two things on it, which were probably right in the first instance, which shows that one should, at one point, rely on intuition. Anyway, I had NO idea there were so many tapes to Pimsleur. I doubt I can shell out the price for many more of them, nit unless NASDAQ goes back up. :-) But maybe in the future ... I have also heard very good things about the Rosetta Stone CD-Rom program, which also runs in the hundreds of dollars. At any rate, I am not interested in multimedia right now, but a textbook to converse with another human with. Thanks for the suggestion; I'll keep the Pimsleur series in mind. Joseph C ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sher07 at BELLSOUTH.NET Fri Apr 7 23:48:06 2000 From: sher07 at BELLSOUTH.NET (Benjamin Sher) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 18:48:06 -0500 Subject: "Why Study Russian" Message-ID: Dear friends: Could someone send me the URL for the "Why Study Russian" video, please. Assuming that it is still online. Personally, I do not like the video's emphasis on the practical rationale for studying Russian, but I would like to add it to my Index. Thank you. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher sher07 at bellsouth.net Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From polskym at GUSUN.GEORGETOWN.EDU Sat Apr 8 01:02:04 2000 From: polskym at GUSUN.GEORGETOWN.EDU (Marissa Polsky) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 21:02:04 -0400 Subject: "Why Study Russian" In-Reply-To: <38EE73B6.FFD7F4A8@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: This is where the video is: http://www.middlebury.edu/~ls/Russian/links/ And here is the link to the Why Study Russian Website (not video, but text-based) http://www.russnet.org/why/index.html Marissa On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, Benjamin Sher wrote: -Dear friends: - -Could someone send me the URL for the "Why Study Russian" video, please. -Assuming that it is still online. - -Personally, I do not like the video's emphasis on the practical -rationale for studying Russian, but I would like to add it to my Index. - -Thank you. - -Benjamin --- -Benjamin and Anna Sher -sher07 at bellsouth.net -Sher's Russian Web -http://www.websher.net - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription - options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: - http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Zemedelec at AOL.COM Sat Apr 8 01:50:24 2000 From: Zemedelec at AOL.COM (Leslie Farmer) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 21:50:24 EDT Subject: Query: good 2nd year conversation book Message-ID: I liked the US Government's F.A.S.T. tapes--not the least because they were cheap (something like $30 for 12 tapes, each about an hour long). This was for Czech but I'm sure they have something in Russian too--might be useful for your further commutes... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sher07 at BELLSOUTH.NET Sat Apr 8 03:31:02 2000 From: sher07 at BELLSOUTH.NET (Benjamin Sher) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 22:31:02 -0500 Subject: "Why Study Russian" Message-ID: Dear Marissa: Thank you so much for providing the URL's. I've just completed the "Why" section that opens my Index. Hope you like it. Benjaminxx -- Benjamin and Anna Sher sher07 at bellsouth.net Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ggerhart at WOLFENET.COM Sat Apr 8 20:01:53 2000 From: ggerhart at WOLFENET.COM (Genevra Gerhart) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 13:01:53 -0700 Subject: Disaster vocabulary Message-ID: Ladies and gentleman! Help, Murder, Police! I have been asked for a source for disaster relief- emergency relief- and/or rescue vocabulary. Russian/Ukrainian/English. What can you suggest? Thanks ever so, Genevra ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sher07 at BELLSOUTH.NET Sat Apr 8 23:08:07 2000 From: sher07 at BELLSOUTH.NET (Benjamin Sher) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 18:08:07 -0500 Subject: "Why Study Russian?" Message-ID: Dear friends: Hope you enjoy the new opening section of my Index called "The Why", that is, "Why Study Russian?" So far, I have managed to find 35 responses, mostly from university departments, some from individual faculty members and a few from students. If you would like to contribute a response, your own, your university's or your students, let me know. I'll be glad to add it. Yours, Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher sher07 at bellsouth.net Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sher07 at BELLSOUTH.NET Sun Apr 9 01:23:15 2000 From: sher07 at BELLSOUTH.NET (Benjamin Sher) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 20:23:15 -0500 Subject: "Why Study Russian?" -- Your contribution Message-ID: Dear friends: I forgot to add that any response to "Why Study Russian" must be on a Web site. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher sher07 at bellsouth.net Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sher07 at BELLSOUTH.NET Sun Apr 9 12:04:08 2000 From: sher07 at BELLSOUTH.NET (Benjamin Sher) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 07:04:08 -0500 Subject: How to download the Vysotsky videos Message-ID: Dear friends: I just responded to an inquiry from a list member concerning the Vysotsky videos. I thought that this might interest some of you who may have had problems with playing it. So, here is a copy of my letter. The correct URL for the Vysotsky videos is: http://kulichki.rambler.ru/vv/ovys/teatr/ (Same address as on my Index under Multimedia -- Video) Look on your right: "Izbrannye videofragmenty" You will see two types of connection speed: 20kbps for narrow-band (28.8 or 56k) modems and 200 or 300kbps (anything over 150 is high-speed or broadband). You must have RealPlayer installed, whichever speed you use. You can get RealPlayer (or Windows Media Player, if that is what is called for) FREE, from http://www.real.com for RealPlayer and http://www.microsoft.com for Windows Media Player. Just make sure that you get the absolutely FREE no-strings-attached version. They try to hide it and get you to buy the 29.95 commercial version (called RealPlayerPlus, which they allow you to evaluate for "free" for 30 days and then they want you to pay for it. Essentially, they are counting on the naive newcomer's naivete). You do NOT need it. The free RealPlayer version (called just RealPlayer) is just as good. Don't be fooled. Either way, the current version is RealPlayer 7. And the current version for Windows Media Player is 6.4. Most people still have only 28.8, 33.3 or 56kbps connections (narrow-band and very slow download for video). Universities mostly have broadband, and millions of people are now signing up for broadband either through ADSL (from your telephone company, usually) or through Cable (usually Cable companies). Both ADSL and Cable are capable of 300kbps or higher. This allows you to watch a video (whether a tape or streaming, "real-time" broadcast in good quality and synchronization. It all depends on how important this is to you because broadband usually costs $40 to $50 per MONTH plust initial installation cost. If you want to watch live domestic Russian TV (See my Index under Multimedia -- Video), then you might consider investing in broadband. If all you want is audio, an ordinary 28.8 modem is more than sufficient for stereo-quality audio broadcasts such as you will get from Radio Svoboda at http://www.svoboda.org (either Live (priamoi efir -- look at the top left) or tape. Same for listening to music. No need for broadband. But video is EXTREMELY demanding of resources. At any rate, if you try to watch the Vysotsky video (about 3-4 minutes for each of the 5 videos) and you try to do this with an ordinary 28.8 or 56k modem, it will take you over an hour (or over thirty minutes) of sitting and waiting for the entire file to download (you can see the progress at the bottom left or right of your browser window -- the status bar) before it launches your RealPlayer. With broadband, if network traffic is not too heavy, it takes only about 2 minutes for the 7 to 8 MEGABYTE file to download. You have a choice in this case of downloading it and playing it or downloading it to your computer (by holding on the Shift key while clicking on the link (which in this case is simply the number 20kbps or 200kbps (or 300kbps) which, as you notice, is underlined. If you just click on it, you will not be able to download it PERMANENTLY to your computer. If you do hold the Shift key while clicking on the link, you can downlaod it permanently to your computer's hard drive (choose your "temp" directory if asked) and play it later whenever you feel like it. I hope this explains things. If you new to the Interent, I sympathize. It's fantastic, but it does take some serious learning. My best wishes. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher sher07 at bellsouth.net Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From simplify3 at JUNO.COM Sun Apr 9 16:59:42 2000 From: simplify3 at JUNO.COM (Kenneth E Udut) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 12:59:42 -0400 Subject: Lip reading and Russian Message-ID: I was watching a Russian movie on NTV+ today, with the sound off for a few minutes, and it suddenly dawned on me that I had an easier time understanding when I was reading their lips! I'm partially deaf (profoundly deaf in one ear, and bad hearing in the other), although I've had some very good sucess with language records and tapes, [and I realize that my capacity for language learning, especially w/a language with a very wide frequency range like Russian, will always be limited] I learned naturally to read lips at a young age, but never, ever did it dawn on me to try to do this with Russian learning until it spontaneously was 'noticed' a few minutes ago. My question: Are there any resources on lip reading and language learning? The best combination for me when watching TV is closed caption, hearing it, and reading lips - althoug I do it unconsciously most of the time - but alas, NTV and NTV+ on the DISH network doesn't seem to have closed captioning. A lot of information is carried by the movement of the mouth - the movement of the teeth, the various shapes the lips make, the inhaling or exhaling of breath, the little peeking at the tongue once in a while when one is talking -- and the combination (for me) of the lip reading and hearing seems quite powerful at first blush. I'd be especially interested in resources w/Russian and lipreading, but if not, perhaps a general explanation of the phenomon that might be available online or in a book somewhere. Any help appreciated! -Kenneth simplify3 at juno.com, kenneth.udut at spcorp.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. 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The Central Eurasian Studies Society's purpose is to promote high standards of research and teaching, and to promote and facilitate communication among scholars through meetings and publications. The Central Eurasian Studies Society would like to invite scholars whose interests fall within the above description to become members. While CESS's activities will be U.S. based, this invitation is open to scholars from all countries. [More on membership below]. The idea for establishing this new scholarly organization emerged at the October 1999 Central Asian Studies Workshop, which met in Madison, Wisconsin. The concern that prompted us to attempt this new organization is the following: although many scholars are actively publishing in this area, interactions among U.S.-based scholars who study the Caucasus-to-Mongolia area are fragmented, and interaction among scholars has not been facilitated by a cohesive and active organization. The efforts to establish this organization are just at their beginning. We welcome all who share these interests and concerns to participate now as we consider the directions that CESS will take, and as we sort out how the tasks of making this a strong and useful organization can be shared among us. We would like to establish CESS as a body that can facilitate interaction among senior, established scholars, junior scholars, graduate students, and unaffiliated scholars, through coordination of panels at a number of relevant conferences, promotion of the Central Asian Studies Workshop (and whatever it evolves into) as an annual meeting place for members, and publication of peer-reviewed scholarship. As soon as practicable, we plan to begin publishing, twice annually, a bulletin that focuses on book reviews. A small group of volunteers formed a temporary organizing committee to launch this society. This temporary Executive Committee will be responsible for proposing a set of by-laws for the organization [including organizational structure, proceedures for electing leadership, establishing non-profit legal status, etc.], and setting out the course for the CESS's initial activities. In conjunction with CESS's annual meeting (Sept. 28-Oct. 2, 2000), all members will be invited to respond to the proposed by-laws, and to participate in elections for officers for CESS. Those who are interested in participating in the discussion of CESS's goals and how to achieve them are encouraged to join the Central-Asia-Inst-List which will provide a forum for such discussion. [information on C-A-I-L below) The first activities of the Central Eurasian Studies Society will include: a mini-meeting for any members who can attend at the Association for the Study of Nationalities, Columbia University, New York City, April 13-15, 2000. CESS is sponsoring one panel at the ASN conference. The CESS meeting will take place on Friday, April 14 at 7 pm, location to be announced (for more information, see the ASN web-site: www.asn.uno.edu The annual meeting of the Central Eurasian Studies Society at the Central Asian Studies Workshop, Madison, Wisconsin, Sept. 28- Oct 1, 2000. Information about this meeting will be made available through the CESS homepage. MEMBERSHIP To become a member of the Central Eurasian Studies Society, you can register for membership by going to the on-line registration form found on our web page: http://cess.uno.edu Dues are $30 for full members; $15 for graduate student members; free for FSU members, or $10 for FSU members who want to receive a print version of the CESS bulletin. A fuller description can be found on the membership section of the CESS homepage. C-A-I-L To join in the discussion of CESS's goals and ways to achieve them, please respond to the Central Asia Institution List. 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Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From centrist_2000 at YAHOO.COM Sun Apr 9 17:40:26 2000 From: centrist_2000 at YAHOO.COM (centrist centrist) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 10:40:26 -0700 Subject: How to download the Vysotsky videos Message-ID: --- Benjamin Sher wrote: > Dear friends: > > I just responded to an inquiry from a list member > concerning the > Vysotsky videos. I thought that this might interest > some of you who may > have had problems with playing it. So, here is a > copy of my letter. I bought COMPLETE WORKS OF VISOTSKY on a CD-ROM including his 600 songs, all of his videos and movie fragments, articles on hima and a lot more material. It is on sale in Russia, so if you are interested, I can provide you with suggestions (THIS IS NOT A BUSINESS OFFER). Centrist __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ggerhart at WOLFENET.COM Sun Apr 9 17:47:52 2000 From: ggerhart at WOLFENET.COM (Genevra Gerhart) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 10:47:52 -0700 Subject: Lip-reading and comprehension Message-ID: Dear Kenneth, I never thought myself partly deaf until I realized that I could not understand my husband at the dinner table if he covered his mouth with his hands. Another good reason to keep the hands away from the face! Genevra ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From simplify3 at JUNO.COM Sun Apr 9 18:03:17 2000 From: simplify3 at JUNO.COM (Kenneth E Udut) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 14:03:17 -0400 Subject: Lip-reading and comprehension Message-ID: That's true! I tend to talk downwards, that is, with my face to my chest, eyes looking down - very bad habit, and I'm often wiping my mouth with my hand while I talk (covering up my mouth) -- and yet, it irritates me when others do these things, because it makes it harder for me to understand them :-) Perhaps you can answer a question that I'm been curious about: Do you ever find it easier to hear something happening in another room -- or somebody whispering, or talking elsewhere - than if they are in front of you talking, but covering their mouth? Even when I'm talking to a Russian friend, I understnd what he is saying to his wife in the other room, or on the phone, or what he says when he's talking under his breath to himself, than when he's takling directly to me! [of course, this could have more to do with a natural introversion, and finding it easier to be a 'fly on the wall' rather than interacting - but then again, it could be related to hearing problems :) ] -Ken On Sun, 9 Apr 2000 10:47:52 -0700 Genevra Gerhart writes: > Dear Kenneth, > I never thought myself partly deaf until I realized that I could not > understand my husband at the dinner table if he covered his mouth > with his > hands. > Another good reason to keep the hands away from the face! > Genevra ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ggerhart at WOLFENET.COM Sun Apr 9 19:38:46 2000 From: ggerhart at WOLFENET.COM (Genevra Gerhart) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 12:38:46 -0700 Subject: lip-reading, etc Message-ID: Ken, Yes, I think your reaction is universal. I suspect it is a small version of a panic attack that dulls the ability to use the senses or interpret them. I'm sure that it would not be too difficult to set up a listening test that would frighten the spit out of many an accomplished student. Genevra ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Zemedelec at AOL.COM Sun Apr 9 21:35:56 2000 From: Zemedelec at AOL.COM (Leslie Farmer) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 17:35:56 EDT Subject: Lip-reading and comprehension Message-ID: I can understand anything better in Czech if if is NOT on the telephone--for some reason I start to suffer "brain freeze" the minute I pick up the receiver. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sher07 at BELLSOUTH.NET Sun Apr 9 22:41:47 2000 From: sher07 at BELLSOUTH.NET (Benjamin Sher) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 17:41:47 -0500 Subject: How to download the Vysotsky videos Message-ID: Dear Centrist: Thank you for your help. However, I have a section on my Index (Multimedia -- Commercial), where I list a good dozen or more commercial sites for people to buy Russian multimedia products -- videos, movies, CD's, educational materials, books, etc. Plust a special Art/Commerical section for those interested in artifacts. In addition, other commercial sites (e.g. Books) are mentioned when necessary to help give the reader a sense of what's possible and help him/her in her search for specific products or services. No favoritism is shown. I have tried to list all the major ones and all those that seem to be reliable and quality commercial sites with rich offerings or that have been recommended by our own list members on our pages. I have deliberately not singled out any specific travel agencies that deal with Russia. Instead, I have listed several major associations of travel agencies that should provide all the information necessary to make a good choice. For the record, I am NOT affiliated with any of these commercial sites and am NOT compensated in any way by them. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher sher07 at bellsouth.net Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From as at TICOM.KHARKOV.UA Sun Apr 9 23:28:16 2000 From: as at TICOM.KHARKOV.UA (Alex) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 02:28:16 +0300 Subject: Disaster vocabulary Message-ID: Genevra Gerhart wrote: > > Ladies and gentleman! > > Help, Murder, Police! I have been asked for a source for disaster relief- > emergency relief- and/or rescue vocabulary. Russian/Ukrainian/English. > What can you suggest? Dear Genevra! Vocabulary here is not enough. You should learn intonations and some Russian/Ukrainian realia! Regards Alex ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ewb2 at CORNELL.EDU Mon Apr 10 02:33:06 2000 From: ewb2 at CORNELL.EDU (ewb2 at CORNELL.EDU) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 22:33:06 -0400 Subject: Journal Republika needed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Seelangers, A few libraries in the U.S. have this journal, but none of them whose catalogs I (or the interlibrary loan specialists at the Cornell library) can reach have the issue I need: No. 119-120 for 1995. Can anybody send me a Xerox copy of this issue (expenses happily reimbursed)? (Most issues have two parts: one paginated 1, 2, 3, ... and another paginated I, II, III. I would like both parts.) TITLE: Republika. PLACE: Beograd : PUBLISHER: Udruzenje za jugoslovensku demokratsku inicijativu, YEAR: 1989 9999 PUB TYPE: Serial FORMAT: v. : ill. ; 30-36 cm. FREQUENCY: Semimonthly NUMBERING: Began in 1989. NOTES: Description based on: God. 3, br. 25-26 (1- 31 avg. 1991); title from caption. SUBJECT: Yugoslavia -- Politics and government -- 1980-1992 Yugoslavia -- Politics and government -- 1992- ALT TITLE: Republika (Belgrade, Serbia : 1989) OTHER: Udruzenje za jugoslovensku demokratsku inicijativu. Many thanks in advance! Wayles Browne, Assoc. Prof. of Linguistics Department of Linguistics Morrill Hall 321, Cornell University Ithaca, New York 14853, U.S.A. tel. 607-255-0712 (o), 607-273-3009 (h) fax 607-255-2044 (write FOR W. BROWNE) e-mail ewb2 at cornell.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From drannie_98 at YAHOO.COM Mon Apr 10 16:17:58 2000 From: drannie_98 at YAHOO.COM (Andrea Nelson) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:17:58 -0700 Subject: Disaster vocabulary Message-ID: Dear Gegnevra and others, I am currently reviewing a book for SEEJ in the Shaum's Outlines series entitled Russian Vocabulary. It is currently available in bookstores, along with its companion volume entitled Russian Grammar. In addition to chapters devoted to everday topics, it has an entire chapter devoted to crime which includes vocabulary and phrases which you and your students might find helpful. Sincerely, Andrea Nelson, Lecturer in Russian Department of Modern Languages and Literatures Swarthmore College --- Alex wrote: > Genevra Gerhart wrote: > > > > Ladies and gentleman! > > > > Help, Murder, Police! I have been asked for a source for disaster relief- > > emergency relief- and/or rescue vocabulary. Russian/Ukrainian/English. > > What can you suggest? > > Dear Genevra! > > Vocabulary here is not enough. You should learn intonations and > some Russian/Ukrainian realia! > > Regards > > Alex > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription > options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: > http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. 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Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From BERRYMJZ at BSS1.BHAM.AC.UK Tue Apr 11 16:54:55 2000 From: BERRYMJZ at BSS1.BHAM.AC.UK (MJ Berry) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:54:55 GMT Subject: two quick queries Message-ID: Does anyone know the origin of the quotation? Svoboda pervaya zhertva strakha? 2) Does anyone know of a source for an English translation of the Lebedev-Kumach song, Shiroka strana moya rodnaya? Thanks for your help.Mike Berry ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Berry Centre for Russian and Tel: 0121-414-6355 East European Studies, Fax: 0121-414-3423 University of Birmingham, email: m.j.berry.rus at bham.ac.uk Birmingham B15 2TT, UK. ***** Umom Rossiyu ne ponyat' ***** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From nmonnier at PRINCETON.EDU Tue Apr 11 17:57:05 2000 From: nmonnier at PRINCETON.EDU (Nicole Monnier) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:57:05 -0400 Subject: Beyond Ozhigov--an alternative tolkovyi slovar' russkogo iazyka? Message-ID: In the midst of hunting down a word late last night, it finally dawned on me that my beloved Ozhigov (7th ed., 1968!) and I are more or less coevals, and that I should perhaps acquire a more up-to-date slovar' russkogo iazyka. Does anyone have any suggestions regarding good--and currently available!--Russian-Russian dictionaries? Specifically, has anyone used the Bol'shoi tolkovyi slovar' russkogo iazyka, Kuznetsov, S. A. (sost. i red.), (SPb: Norint, 1998)--the only such dictionary currently on offer at Viktor Kamkin ($40.00)? Many thanks, Nicole -- Nicole Monnier nmonnier at princeton.edu Dept. of Slavic Languages and Literatures Princeton University ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From wils0141 at AMETHYST.TC.UMN.EDU Tue Apr 11 18:29:16 2000 From: wils0141 at AMETHYST.TC.UMN.EDU (Cheri C Wilson) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:29:16 -0500 Subject: Beyond Ozhigov--an alternative tolkovyi slovar' russkogo iazyka? In-Reply-To: <200004111757.NAA07580@mailserver.Princeton.EDU> Message-ID: On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Nicole Monnier wrote: > Does anyone have any suggestions regarding good--and currently > available!--Russian-Russian dictionaries? Nicole, I have used S. I. Ozhegov and N. Iu. Shvedova (red.). _Tolkovyi slovar' russkogo iazyka_. (72500 slov i 7500 frazeologicheskikh vyrazheni). Moskva: "AZ'" Ltd., 1992 with much success. However, I must mention that I picked this dictionary up in Nizhnii Novgorod in 1992, so I am uncertain whether it is available here in the U.S. --Cheri Cheri C. Wilson, MA As of 1 August 1999: Ph.D. student, Russian history Cheri C. Wilson University of Minnesota Teaching Fellow Department of History Loyola College 614 Social Sciences Building Department of History 267 19th Avenue S. 4501 N. Charles Street Minneapolis, MN 55455 Baltimore, MD 21210-2699 E-mail: wils0141 at tc.umn.edu E-mail: CWilson3 at loyola.edu Fax: 612-624-7096 Office telephone: (410) 617-2017 URL: http://www.tc.umn.edu/~wils0141/ Fax: (410) 617-2832 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. 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Birnbaum Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures 1417 Cathedral of Learning University of Pittsburgh Pittsburgh, PA 15260 USA Voice: 1 412 624 5712 Fax: 1 412 624 9714 Email: djb at clover.slavic.pitt.edu URL: http://clover.slavic.pitt.edu/~djb/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From gribble.3 at OSU.EDU Wed Apr 12 00:52:57 2000 From: gribble.3 at OSU.EDU (Charles Gribble) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 20:52:57 -0400 Subject: Beyond Ozhigov--an alternative tolkovyi slovar' russkogo iazyka? In-Reply-To: <20000411175736.25947.qmail@orb2.osu.edu> Message-ID: I've used Kuznetsov some -- it seems very good. Charles Gribble -- gribble.3 at osu.edu At 01:57 PM 4/11/00 -0400, you wrote: >---------------------- Information from the mail header ----------------------- >Sender: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list > >Poster: Nicole Monnier >Subject: Beyond Ozhigov--an alternative tolkovyi slovar' russkogo iazyka? >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > >In the midst of hunting down a word late last night, it finally dawned on me >that my beloved Ozhigov (7th ed., 1968!) and I are more or less coevals, and >that I should perhaps acquire a more up-to-date slovar' russkogo iazyka. > >Does anyone have any suggestions regarding good--and currently >available!--Russian-Russian dictionaries? Specifically, has anyone used the >Bol'shoi tolkovyi slovar' russkogo iazyka, Kuznetsov, S. A. (sost. i red.), >(SPb: Norint, 1998)--the only such dictionary currently on offer at Viktor >Kamkin ($40.00)? > >Many thanks, > >Nicole >-- > >Nicole Monnier nmonnier at princeton.edu >Dept. of Slavic Languages and Literatures >Princeton University > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription > options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: > http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From yamato at YT.CACHE.WASEDA.AC.JP Wed Apr 12 02:03:14 2000 From: yamato at YT.CACHE.WASEDA.AC.JP (Yoshimasa Tsuji) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:03:14 +0900 Subject: Beyond Ozhigov--an alternative tolkovyi slovar' russkogo iazyka? In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20000411205257.007a7720@127.0.0.1> (message from Charles Gribble on Tue, 11 Apr 2000 20:52:57 -0400) Message-ID: Hello, I say Kuznecov is good, but haven't found it useful so far. For most purposes Ushakov, particularly its electronic version, suffices me as I mostly read ministerial documents. Thick dictionaries usually contain more borrowed words, mostly German, that are not too necessary for intellectuals who speak German better than Russian. Ozhegov is there for prescriptive purposes (the right spelling, the proper meaning, etc.), as words there are usually known to every Russian speaker. Yes, the Russian language has changed a lot in the Soviet era and after, but as to most of the new words they are more or less easy to guess its meaning, unless they come from vernacular Russian. For Soviet era words, there is the Tolkovyj Slovar' Jazyka Sovdepii (ISBN 5-7627-0103-4) and for the post-Soviet era Tolkovyj Slovar' Russkogo Jazyka Konca XX v.(ISBN 5-7827-0100-X). The dictionary of Sovdepii will remain, but seeing in the last year of the XX century, I think many new words need to be supplemented in the second one. The new words unintelligible to me are mostly religious/sectarian words, with which most Russians are unfamiliar, too. Perhaps the Russian language has undergone a more radical change than socio-economic or political systems in the post-Soviet era. 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DSW At 01:57 PM 4/11/00 -0400, you wrote: >In the midst of hunting down a word late last night, it finally dawned on me >that my beloved Ozhigov (7th ed., 1968!) and I are more or less coevals, and >that I should perhaps acquire a more up-to-date slovar' russkogo iazyka. > >Does anyone have any suggestions regarding good--and currently >available!--Russian-Russian dictionaries? Specifically, has anyone used the >Bol'shoi tolkovyi slovar' russkogo iazyka, Kuznetsov, S. A. (sost. i red.), >(SPb: Norint, 1998)--the only such dictionary currently on offer at Viktor >Kamkin ($40.00)? > >Many thanks, > >Nicole >-- > >Nicole Monnier nmonnier at princeton.edu >Dept. of Slavic Languages and Literatures >Princeton University > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription > options, and more. 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Please note that while the URL remains the same as before, the files have been moved to a different machine. The mapping of names to machines on the Internet is handled in a distributed fashion, which means, among other things, that it may take a day or two before the new machine becomes reachable by everyone. Best, David ________ Professor David J. Birnbaum Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures 1417 Cathedral of Learning University of Pittsburgh Pittsburgh, PA 15260 USA Voice: 1 412 624 5712 Fax: 1 412 624 9714 Email: djb at clover.slavic.pitt.edu URL: http://clover.slavic.pitt.edu/~djb/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From d-powelstock at UCHICAGO.EDU Wed Apr 12 12:29:39 2000 From: d-powelstock at UCHICAGO.EDU (David Powelstock) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 07:29:39 -0500 Subject: Beyond Ozhigov--an alternative tolkovyi slovar' russkogo iazyka? In-Reply-To: <200004111757.NAA07580@mailserver.Princeton.EDU> Message-ID: I replaced my Ozhegov with Kuznetsov several months ago and am very pleased. Not only does it have more words, but the definitions seem more complete. Some rare words encountered in 19-th. c. literary texts turned up in Kuznetsov, while they were not in Ozhegov. Well worth the 40 clams, to my mind. Plus it comes in a nice red binding (for the book fetishists out there), which seems much sturdier than the old Soviet binding on Ozhegov (in my case, mostly replaced by duct tape at this point). Best, dp -----Original Message----- From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list [mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU]On Behalf Of Nicole Monnier Sent: Tuesday, 11 April 2000 12:57 PM To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU Subject: Beyond Ozhigov--an alternative tolkovyi slovar' russkogo iazyka? In the midst of hunting down a word late last night, it finally dawned on me that my beloved Ozhigov (7th ed., 1968!) and I are more or less coevals, and that I should perhaps acquire a more up-to-date slovar' russkogo iazyka. Does anyone have any suggestions regarding good--and currently available!--Russian-Russian dictionaries? Specifically, has anyone used the Bol'shoi tolkovyi slovar' russkogo iazyka, Kuznetsov, S. A. (sost. i red.), (SPb: Norint, 1998)--the only such dictionary currently on offer at Viktor Kamkin ($40.00)? 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Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From nmonnier at PRINCETON.EDU Wed Apr 12 14:50:38 2000 From: nmonnier at PRINCETON.EDU (Nicole Monnier) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:50:38 -0400 Subject: Thank you (beyond Ozhegov) Message-ID: Many thanks to all of you who replied on-list and off with your suggestions for post-Ozhegov, moving-into-the-21st century Russian dictionaries. I've just put in an order for the Kuznetsov and will continue to be on the look-out for a CD-ROM version of a decent tolkovyj slovar'. (My most abject apologies, by the way, for having inadvertently slandered the great Sergei Ivanovich by misspelling his familiia.) --Nicole -- Nicole Monnier Dept. of Slavic Languages and Literatures Princeton University nmonnier at princeton.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Masako_Fidler at BROWN.EDU Wed Apr 12 21:31:32 2000 From: Masako_Fidler at BROWN.EDU (Masako Fidler) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 14:31:32 -0700 Subject: Fwd: Language school in Prague seeks English teachers Message-ID: >From: "Jim Burger" >To: >Subject: Language school in Prague seeks English teachers >Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 14:27:19 -0400 >X-Priority: 3 (Normal) >Importance: Normal > >Dear Mr. Ueda, > >I have a friend in the Czech Republic who runs a language school in Prague >and is looking for English teachers for 2000-2001. If any of your students >are interested in spending the next year in Prague and would like to teach >English there, would you be able to put them in contact with me at the email >address jim at wholenote.com? > >The school's website is www.polyglot.cz. > >Dekuji mockrat, > >Jim Burger > >_____________________________________________ >NetZero - Defenders of the Free World >Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email >http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html ****************************** Masako Ueda Fidler Associate Professor Box E Department of Slavic Languages Brown University Providence, RI 02912 tel: (1)-(401)-863-3933 fax: (1)-(401)-863-7330 Masako_Fidler at brown.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From kenneth.udut at SPCORP.COM Wed Apr 12 18:51:43 2000 From: kenneth.udut at SPCORP.COM (Udut, Kenneth) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 14:51:43 -0400 Subject: A wonderful little book by Frank Higenbottam Message-ID: A wonderful little book by Frank Higenbottam called _Russian Through Reading_ (Teach Yourself Books, London, 1967) - anybody else familiar with it? I picked up the two Learn Russian through Reading-type books that are from Slavica (Thanks guys!) - and they're wonderfully complete - the lessons are clear and easy -- yet - this little tiny book from Frank Higenbottam is quite unique... [if for no other reason, I stick it in my backpocket and can read it during 'down time' at work] -Kenneth ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From cfwoolhiser at MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU Wed Apr 12 21:08:12 2000 From: cfwoolhiser at MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU (curt fredric woolhiser) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:08:12 -0500 Subject: Third International Congress of Belarusianists Message-ID: Dear Colleagues: The preliminary program for the spring session of the Third International Congress of Belarusianists (Minsk, May 22-24, 2000) has been posted on the website of "Kantakty i dyjalohi", the bimonthly bulletin of the International Association of Belarusianists (http://www.lingvo.minsk.by). The spring session will include panels and roundtables on the following topics: *Christianity in Belarus *Francysk Skaryna and European culture *Belarus and Russia *Belarus and Ukraine *Belarus and Poland *Belarus and the Baltic countries *Belarus and the countries of Central and Western Europe *Belarusian linguistics *Belarusian sociolinguistics The topics for the fall session (September 26-27, 2000) will include: *The synthesis of Eastern and Western traditions in Belarusian literature and art *Dialogue as a means of resolving conflicts between national and religious groups in Belarus *The role of the Belarusian diaspora in East-West dialogue ======================================== Curt F. Woolhiser Dept. of Slavic Languages and Literatures Calhoun 415 University of Texas Austin, TX 78713-7217 USA Tel. (512) 471-3607 Fax: (512) 471-6710 Email: cfwoolhiser at mail.utexas.edu Slavic Department Home Page: http://www.dla.utexas.edu/depts/slavic/ ======================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From cfwoolhiser at MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU Wed Apr 12 21:44:55 2000 From: cfwoolhiser at MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU (curt fredric woolhiser) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:44:55 -0500 Subject: Lithuanian Metrica (Book 28) Message-ID: Dear Colleagues, I am pleased to inform you that the Belarusian publishing house ATHENAEUM has just published Book 28 of the Metrica of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania (Lithuanian Metrica). This book is the first Belarusian publication within the framework of the international program for the study and publication of the GDL Metrica. The work was prepared at the Institute of History of the Belarusian Academy of Sciences by the historian Valery Mianzhynski and philologist Uladzimir Sviazhynski. Book 28 of the GDL Metrica contains materials concerning the history of Vilnius, Minsk, Polotsk, Kiev and other areas of Belarus and the Grand Duchy of Lithuania from 1522 to 1552. The documents are published in the language of the original, Old Belarusian. The book includes detailed introductions in Belarusian, Russian, English and Lithuanian, and also extensive scientific indices prepared in accordance with the criteria of the international program for the study and publication of the GDL Metrica. If you would like more information about this book or would like to purchase a copy, please contact us. 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Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From djbpitt+seelangs at PITT.EDU Sat Apr 15 01:05:20 2000 From: djbpitt+seelangs at PITT.EDU (David J Birnbaum) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 21:05:20 -0400 Subject: abstract submission address correction and deadline extension Message-ID: Dear SEELANGers, The AATSEEL Conference Web site at http://clover.slavic.pitt.edu/~djb/aatseel.html contains a link to the contact information (post, email, fax) for the people to whom abstracts should be submitted. The address of the page with this contact information is: http://clover.slavic.pitt.edu/~djb/aatseel/contact_persons.html Until a few minutes ago, the list of contact persons contained an incorrect email address for Professor Malynne Sternstein, the contact person for all submissions in literature and culture. The correct email address is: msternst at midway.uchicago.edu (The incorrect address listed "chicago", rather than "uchicago", as the middle part of the address.) We'll extent the April 15 abstract submission deadline for a week (until Saturday, April 22) as an accommodation to anyone who submitted an abstract on time, only to have it bounce back. (There is also an August 1 deadline, of course; complete submission guidelines and other information are available at the main conference page mentioned above.) Apologetically, David (Program Committee Chair and Sloppy Typist) ________ Professor David J. Birnbaum Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures 1417 Cathedral of Learning University of Pittsburgh Pittsburgh, PA 15260 USA Voice: 1 412 624 5712 Fax: 1 412 624 9714 Email: djbpitt+ at pitt.edu URL: http://clover.slavic.pitt.edu/~djb/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sforres1 at SWARTHMORE.EDU Sun Apr 16 22:03:40 2000 From: sforres1 at SWARTHMORE.EDU (Sibelan Forrester) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 18:03:40 -0400 Subject: books for review in SEEJ Message-ID: Time to line up a book to review this summer! http://www.swarthmore.edu/Humanities/sforres1/seej/ Sibelan Forrester Assoc. Editor for Book Reviews Slavic and East European Journal ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From postout at RCF.USC.EDU Sun Apr 16 22:26:00 2000 From: postout at RCF.USC.EDU (Kirill Postoutenko) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 15:26:00 -0700 Subject: books for review in SEEJ Message-ID: dear Sibelan, thank you for Vischnevetskii's book. Hope to read and review it during my italian journey in June-July. All the best, Kirill ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From djbpitt+seelangs at PITT.EDU Mon Apr 17 13:27:01 2000 From: djbpitt+seelangs at PITT.EDU (David J Birnbaum) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:27:01 -0400 Subject: Intensive Bulgarian Summer Course Message-ID: INTENSIVE BULGARIAN SUMMER COURSE The University of Pittsburgh's Slavic & East European Summer Language Institute will offer a six-week course in elementary Bulgarian from June 12-July 21, 2000. This intensive course is the equivalent of a full academic year of language study. It is offered through the Less Commonly Taught Languages Consortium, a group of 12 American universities that have pooled their resources to provide this unique opportunity to students and professionals throughout the country. The course is taught by a native Bulgarian speaker and includes a full cultural program. The tuition cost is $1425; however, full scholarships are available competitively to those whose applications are received by May 15. For additional information and application materials, please immediately contact the University of Pittsburgh's Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures at (412) 624-5906 or slavic+ at pitt.edu. You may also visit the Summer Language Institute Web site at: http://www.pitt.edu/~slavic/sli/index.html Other languages to be offered at this year's Summer Language Institute in Pittsburgh, pending sufficient enrollment, are Russian (first- through fourth-year), Ukrainian, Polish, Slovak, Croatian, Serbian, Macedonian, Czech, Hungarian and Romanian. Dr. Robert Hayden Director, Center for Russian and East European Studies University of Pittsburgh Dr. Oscar Swan Director, Slavic & East European Summer Language Institute Chair, Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures University of Pittsburgh ________ Professor David J. Birnbaum Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures 1417 Cathedral of Learning University of Pittsburgh Pittsburgh, PA 15260 USA Voice: 1 412 624 5712 Fax: 1 412 624 9714 Email: djbpitt+ at pitt.edu URL: http://clover.slavic.pitt.edu/~djb/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From AHRJJ at CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU Tue Apr 18 00:39:00 2000 From: AHRJJ at CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (Alex Rudd) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 20:39:00 EDT Subject: SEELANGS Summer Administrivia Message-ID: Dear SEELangers, It's getting very near the time when many subscribers to this list leave town, for the summer or for good. 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Alex Rudd ahrjj at cunyvm.cuny.edu ARS KA2ZOO {Standard Disclaimer} http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From H.P.Houtzagers at LET.RUG.NL Tue Apr 18 09:41:43 2000 From: H.P.Houtzagers at LET.RUG.NL (H.P. Houtzagers) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:41:43 +0100 Subject: Russian hyphenation Message-ID: Dear Seelangers, The answer to the question I'm going to ask is probably common knowledge, so please respond off-list. Can anyone tell me how I can hyphenate Russian in Word '97? Does Microsoft have its own Russian hyphenation routine that can be bought together with Word (or is available for free to anyone who has a legal copy of Word)? Peter Houtzagers ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. H. Peter Houtzagers, Slavic Department, Groningen University, The Netherlands tel: +31 50 3636061/3636067, fax: +31 50 3635821 e-mail: h.p.houtzagers at let.rug.nl http://www.let.rug.nl/~houtzage/ (personal) http://www.let.rug.nl/slav/ (department) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Philippe.FRISON at COE.INT Tue Apr 18 08:45:28 2000 From: Philippe.FRISON at COE.INT (FRISON Philippe) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:45:28 +0200 Subject: Looking for universities in Tajikistan Message-ID: Hello! A friend of mine is looking for adresses and Web sites where there would be adresses of Universities and Research centres, names of researchers, among others in the field of mathematics.etc. in Tajikistan. Thank you in advance for any hint. Philippe FRISON E-mail: Philippe.Frison at Coe.int . Bur. EG 104 Conseil de l'Europe F - 67075 Strasbourg Cedex __________________________________________________________ email address updates : @coe.int replaces @coe.fr for more information, http://dct.coe.int/info/emfci001.htm __________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From padunov+ at PITT.EDU Tue Apr 18 10:58:08 2000 From: padunov+ at PITT.EDU (Vladimir Padunov) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 06:58:08 -0400 Subject: UPDATE: Russian Film Symposium Message-ID: UPDATE: Pittsburgh Russian Film Symposium--2000: Nation, Fetish, Identity The University of Pittsburgh, in conjunction with Carnegie Museum of Art, Pittsburgh Filmmakers and the Beehive, will hold the Pittsburgh Russian Film Symposium from 1 to 6 May 2000. This year's symposium explores the theme of Nation, Fetish, Identity, through images in cinema. The week begins with historical reenactment of a Soviet '30s-style May First parade, and continues with screenings of feature films and student works, and panel discussions involving journalists, scholars, and filmmakers from Russia, the US, and the UK. Director Vadim Abdrashitov and actor Sergei Makovetski will attend. Panels and small screenings lead by scholars from Russia and America will address the symposium topic, Nation, Fetish, Identity. Additional information, including event listings, schedules, filmmaker biographies, lodging locations and more is available at http://www.rusfilm.pitt.edu. (Kindly note that because of the volume of e-mail received by the symposium organizers, we will be unable to respond to questions that are answered on our website.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ilon at UT.EE Tue Apr 18 10:04:52 2000 From: ilon at UT.EE (Ilon Fraiman) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:04:52 +0300 Subject: ruthenia news Message-ID: Dobryj den'! Novosti "Nezavisimyh proektov". V "Nemzereskah" (http: file://www. ruthenia. ru/nemzer/) opublikovana novaja zametka A.S. Nemzera k 70-letiju so dnja rozhdenija N. Ja. Eidel'mana "Pochto, moj drug, pochto? ": http://www.ruthenia.ru/nemzer/eid.html Informacija o prohodivshem v Juzhnoj Kalifornii Simpoziume po istorii i kul'ture Rossii XVII-XVIII vv. : http://www.ruthenia.ru/hronika.html?date=2000-04-08#207550 Sm. takzhe programmu Simpoziuma na angl. jazyke: http://www.ruthenia.ru/document/207469.html Fotografii s Simpoziuma: http://www.ruthenia.ru/document/207524.html V "Ssylke nedeli" chitajte obzor personal'noj stranicy Ju. D. Apresjana: http://www.ruthenia.ru/document/215489.html Anons konferencii "Kul'tura rossijskoj provincii: vek XX-XXI". (23-26 maja, Kaluga): http://www.ruthenia.ru/anonslist.html?date=2000-05-23#2000-05-23 Tradicionnyj ezhenedel'nyj spisok postuplenij v Rossijskuju gosudarstvennuju biblioteku (3-8 aprelja 2000 goda): http://www.ruthenia.ru/document/207962.html Informacija o Mezhdunarodnom seminare "Russkie starovery za rubezhom" (Tartu): http://www.ruthenia.ru/hronika.html?date=2000-04-12#207811 Programma seminara: http://www.ruthenia.ru/document/207791.html Lekcija Ilji Vinnickogo v Kolumbijskom universitete: http://www.ruthenia.ru/hronika.html?date=2000-04-12#209532 Soobschenie o konferencii "Hristianstvo i slavjanskie kul'tury" (Kiev): http://www.ruthenia.ru/hronika.html?date=2000-04-15#181790 Konferencija v Kolambuse (Ogajo) http://www.ruthenia.ru/hronika.html?date=2000-04-14#162807 Novye knigi: M. Ardov, V. Krichevskij, N. Ljubimov, N. Punin, E. Taho-Godi: http://www.ruthenia.ru/hronika.html?date=2000-04-13#208130 Ilon Fraiman staff at ruthenia.ru ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Estrellas at HOME.IVM.DE Tue Apr 18 18:05:39 2000 From: Estrellas at HOME.IVM.DE (Dieter.Stern) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 20:05:39 +0200 Subject: Looking for Russian courses in Russia In-Reply-To: <51341B7FA34CD2119FA20008C7289B1CD229F9@PANORAMIX> Message-ID: Hello! Could anyone recommend a Russian course in Russia? Dieter ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From alancarmack at MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU Tue Apr 18 21:16:16 2000 From: alancarmack at MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU (Mr Carmack) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 14:16:16 -0700 Subject: Looking for Russian courses in Russia In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Could anyone recommend a Russian course in Russia? > > Dieter Are you a college student, or post-college student? In either case, you can probably find many opportunities to study Russian in Russia. I can only offer the one program I know of and am applying to, which is the Summer Russian Language Program at Lomonosov Moscow State University (also known as MGU, and even, believe it or not, as MSU). MGU offers semester-long and summer courses in Russian. They offer are flexible in that you can pick the length of your stay, if you do not wish to stay a full semester or more. For this summer, they have two programs, each 4 weeks long, the first is from 03 July to 30 July, the second from 31 July to 27 August. They offer all levels of instruction during these programs, and students are placed in classes of no more than 7, at the appropriate level based on a pretest. Write adm at cie.msu.ru and ask for more info on their "Center for International Education" and their Summer 2000 Russian courses. You can elect to stay in one of several dorms, although from what I have heard you should definitely go for the most expensive ones, unless you like sleeping with cock roaches and rodents. (The most expensive ones, renovated for foreign students, are about US$120-160 a month. The tuition for the summer courses is US$120 a week. I cannot make any comments on the quality of the program, although it is Moscow's oldest and most prestigious universities (though almost going to shambles right now). Still, I have heard that the quality of instruction there is excellent. I am banking on it, for this summer. Alan Carmack MA, TEFL UT/Austin student of Russian citizen of the cosmos ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sher07 at BELLSOUTH.NET Wed Apr 19 03:05:34 2000 From: sher07 at BELLSOUTH.NET (Benjamin Sher) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:05:34 -0500 Subject: Looking for Russian courses in Russia Message-ID: Dear Dieter: Take a look at the Language schools on my Index under Language -- Schools Index address: http://www.websher.net/inx/link.html -- Benjamin and Anna Sher sher07 at bellsouth.net Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From info at LANGUAGE-LEARNING.NET Wed Apr 19 06:18:24 2000 From: info at LANGUAGE-LEARNING.NET (Language Learning Net) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 08:18:24 +0200 Subject: AW: Looking for Russian courses in Russia In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello Dieter, You will also find Russian courses in Russia in the Language Course Finder, an online database of language schools worldwide at http://www.language-learning.net. Regards, Susanne Thoene Language Course Finder -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- Von: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list [mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU]Im Auftrag von Dieter.Stern Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. April 2000 20:06 An: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU Betreff: Looking for Russian courses in Russia Hello! Could anyone recommend a Russian course in Russia? Dieter ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From brifkin at FACSTAFF.WISC.EDU Wed Apr 19 16:50:43 2000 From: brifkin at FACSTAFF.WISC.EDU (Benjamin Rifkin) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:50:43 -0500 Subject: Russian Studies Majors Message-ID: Dear Colleagues: The Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures at UW-Madison is considering opening up another major track, in addition to an existing major in Russian language and literature. This new track would be in Russian Studies or Russian Language and Civilization, and would allow students to take courses toward the major in area studies disciplines. If you teach in a Slavic Department, Russian Department, or Modern Language Department, and have an undergraduate major or major track that allows students to take area studies courses (not exclusively courses in Russian literature), please write me off-list to let me know how your majors are configured. Thank you! Ben Rifkin ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Benjamin Rifkin, Assoc. Prof. of Slavic Languages, UW-Madison Coordinator of Russian-Language Instruction 1432 Van Hise Hall, 1220 Linden Dr., Madison, WI 53706 voice: 608/262-1623; fax: 608/265-2814 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dbpolet at STUDENTS.WISC.EDU Wed Apr 19 20:27:50 2000 From: dbpolet at STUDENTS.WISC.EDU (David Polet) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:27:50 -0500 Subject: Music Message-ID: Dear Colleagues, Perhaps somebody can help me in trying to locate some sheet music. I have some students who are interested in performing a musicial trio for violin, flute and voice (alto or soprano). Ideally, I would like to get something that is not classical, but a folk song, ballad, or even contemporary popular music. Would anybody have any suggestions where I could look for some of this music. Please respond off list. Thank you, David Polet ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jml6027 at IS.NYU.EDU Thu Apr 20 03:58:09 2000 From: jml6027 at IS.NYU.EDU (J. Labov) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 23:58:09 -0400 Subject: Fw: Piotr Sommer at Columbia Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: David Goldfarb To: Undisclosed recipients: ; Date: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 8:00 AM Subject: Piotr Sommer at Columbia On Monday, April 24th at Columbia University 1101 International Affairs Building 6:00 pm Piotr Sommer, noted Poet & Translator Senior Editor of "Literatura na Swiecie" will speak on Polish poetry & problems of translation. He will also read from his own work. The event is sponsored by The Department of English & The Harriman Institute at Columbia University & The New York University Departments of Comparative Literature and Slavic Studies and is free and open to the public. Join us on Monday April 24 at 6:00 PM. Anna Frajlich ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Apr 20 07:45:10 2000 From: kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Robert Chandler) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 08:45:10 +0100 Subject: books for review in SEEJ Message-ID: Dear Sibelan, Please could you give me your full postal address? I'll send off THE RETURN tomorrow. Could you let me know when it arrives. Best Wishes, Robert Chandler ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.Adlam at EXETER.AC.UK Thu Apr 20 08:46:11 2000 From: C.Adlam at EXETER.AC.UK (Carol Adlam) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 09:46:11 +0100 Subject: Studentships Message-ID: --- Begin Forwarded Message --- Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 17:32:55 +0100 From: Alastair Renfrew Subject: Studentships Sender: russian-studies-request at mailbase.ac.uk To: russian-studies at mailbase.ac.uk Reply-To: Alastair Renfrew Message-ID: <38F74835.CE9A43C5 at strath.ac.uk> POSTGRADUATE STUDENTSHIPS RUSSIAN DIVISION DEPARTMENT OF MODERN LANGUAGES UNIVERSITY OF STRATHCLYDE Applications are invited for three-year PhD studentships, covering fees at HEU rates _plus_ maintenance of either GBP6500 or GBP7000 per annum, depending on the grade of studentship awarded. The awards are tenable for three years and are renewable annually, subject to satisfactory progress. The studentships are intended to complement existing research projects, and proposals should therefore be in either of the following specific areas of Russian Studies: 1. Russian Critical Thought, 1900-1930; 2. Russian and Soviet Cinema. For further information and application forms, contact Alastair Renfrew at the co-ordinates given below; closing date for applications is 19th May 2000. General information on the Division and current postgraduates is available at http://www.strath.ac.uk/Departments/ModLang/russian.htm _______________________________________________ Alastair Renfrew Russian Division Department of Modern Languages University of Strathclyde Glasgow G1 1XH e-mail. a.m.renfrew at strath.ac.uk tel. 00 44 (0)141 548 3487 fax. 00 44 (0)141 552 4979 --- End Forwarded Message --- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From daf at MEIRIONNYDD.FORCE9.CO.UK Thu Apr 20 14:10:20 2000 From: daf at MEIRIONNYDD.FORCE9.CO.UK (Daf) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:10:20 +0100 Subject: How to download the Vysotsky videos Message-ID: > I bought COMPLETE WORKS OF VISOTSKY on a CD-ROM > including his 600 songs, all of his videos and movie > fragments, articles on hima and a lot more material. > > It is on sale in Russia, so if you are interested, I > can provide you with suggestions (THIS IS NOT A > BUSINESS OFFER). > > Centrist I am sorry this is some time after your posting. I would be very glad to know how to purchase the CD. I wonder if the written words are available too. 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Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From renee at ALINGA.COM Thu Apr 20 15:46:12 2000 From: renee at ALINGA.COM (Renee Stillings) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:46:12 -0400 Subject: How to download the Vysotsky videos Message-ID: Also, for anyone who hasn't stumbled across it yet, there is a good Vysotsky web site at http://kulichki.rambler.ru/vv/ where you can find a link to 25+ hours of continuous Vysotsky music. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daf" To: Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2000 10:10 AM Subject: Re: How to download the Vysotsky videos > > I bought COMPLETE WORKS OF VISOTSKY on a CD-ROM > > including his 600 songs, all of his videos and movie > > fragments, articles on hima and a lot more material. > > > > It is on sale in Russia, so if you are interested, I > > can provide you with suggestions (THIS IS NOT A > > BUSINESS OFFER). > > > > Centrist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. 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The primary organizing principle of the conference is a set of problems and questions: What are the primary categories (race, ethnicity, gender, religion) for defining a minority in a given context? How is power formally distributed and unofficially practiced in this context? What kinds of conflicts result from imbalances of power? How is social conflict resolved (or not) when there is no clear "majority," such as in the case of the former Yugoslavia? The aim is to build a conceptual bridge between social contexts abroad and in the United States, the American educational system, and the local community. For more information please contact Andrea Lanoux at (860) 439-5148, alano at conncoll.edu, or visit our web site: http://www.conncoll.edu/academics/departments/rees/. "CONSTRUCTING MINORITIES, DEFINING COMMUNITIES" A Cross-Cultural Conference at Connecticut College Saturday, April 29, 2000 10:00 Opening Remarks by Representatives of Connecticut College Blaustein 210 10:30-12:00 SESSION I PANEL A: NATIONAL IDENTITY AND STATE FORMATION IN THE BALKANS 210 Blaustein Chair: Marijan Despalatovic, Russian and East European Studies Garth Massey, University of Wyoming, Sociology. "Nationalism and Liberalism in Balkan State Formation." Eleni Lampadarios, CC Class of 2000, Russian and East European Studies. "Macedonia's Story: Independence and the Early Years." Mariyan Zumbulev, CC Class of 2001, Economics and International Relations. "The Birth of a Country: The Democratization and Independence of Slovenia." PANEL B: COMMUNITY ACTION 201 Blaustein Chair: Leslie Williams, Director of Unity House Alejandro Melendez, City Manager of the LEAP Program in New London. "Conflict in Diversity." Jane Glover, Librarian, Groton Public Library, Former Mayor of New London. "Minorities and Social Conflict in New London and the State of Connecticut." Tammie Clayton, CC Class of 2001, Member of the New London Board of Education, Program Coordinator for LEAP, New London. "Race and Education in New London." PANEL C: IMMIGRATION AND NEW MINORITIES 203 Blaustein Vedat Gashi, CC Class of 2001. "Building A Home in America: Who Stays and Why?" Charles Olsher, CC Class of 2001, Government. "Tibetan Refugees and Indian Citizenship." Eva Eckert, Connecticut College, Russian and East European Studies. "Gypsies in Czech and Czechs in Texas: Two Cases of Missing Assimilation." 12:00-1:00 LUNCH 1:00-2:30 SESSION II PANEL A: ETHNICITY AND NATIONAL IDENTITY 201 Blaustein Chair: Elinor Despalatovic, Department of History Stephen Jones, Mount Holyoke, Russian and Eurasian Studies. "Minority, Ethnic Group, and Nation in the Caucasus." Jeffrey Lesser, Connecticut College, History. "Ethnicity and the Negotiation of National Identity in Brazil." June Macklin, Connecticut College, Professor Emerita, Anthropology. "Matter out of Place: On Being Gypsy." PANEL B: RELIGIOUS MINORITIES 210 Blaustein Chair: Eugene V. Gallagher, Religious Studies Patrice Brodeur, Connecticut College, Religious Studies. "Religious Minorities: A Theoretical Approach." Raphael Abiem, Harvard University Law School, Human Rights Program Alumnus. "Suffering in the Abode of Peace: Indigenous Aliens under Islam(s)." Courtney Goto, Consultant to the World Conference on Religion and Peace. "In the Midst of Sierra Leone's Civil War: A Muslim Minority's Role in Establishing a Multi-Religious Council for Peace and Reconciliation." PANEL C: GENDER AND MINORITIES 203 Blaustein Chair: Jacqueline Alexander, Gender and Women's Studies Munir Jiwa, Columbia University, Applied Anthropology. "Now You See Her, Now You Don't: Presence, Absence, and the Politics of Seeing." Blanche McCrary Boyd, Connecticut College, English. "Gendering Marriage." Belen Atienza, Connecticut College, Hispanic Studies. "Hispanas, No Locas: Language and the Psychiatric Misdiagnosis of Hispanic Women." 2:30-2:45 COFFEE BREAK Second Floor Stairwell, Blaustein 2:45-4:15 SESSION III PANEL A: POLITICAL ACTION 210 Blaustein Chair: Paula Arputhasamy, Program Coordinator for Unity House Tristan Anne Borer, Connecticut College, Government. "The South African Truth and Reconciliation Commission: Constitutional Rights in Tension with Community Building." Okey Ndibe, Connecticut College Visiting Faculty, English. "Conflict and Violence in Nigeria." Kezevino Aram, Pediatrician, Director of the Health Mission of Shanti Ashram, President of the World Conference on Religion and Peace. "First Steps in Health Promotion: Understanding the Social Context." PANEL B: LANGUAGE AND IDENTITY Ernst Common Room Chair: Alison Fiser, CC Class of 2000 Michael Hackett, CC Class of 2000, Russian and East European Studies. "The Role of Language in the Disintegration of Yugoslavia." Dominique Arel, Brown University, Watson Institute for International Studies. "Language and Census in New Post-Soviet States." John A. Scott, Connecticut College, Coordinator of Multicultural and Diversity Committee. "Race and Language Among White Iowa College Sophomores." 4:30 - 5:30 ROUND TABLE DISCUSSION: "Constructing Minorities, Defining Communities." 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Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dwkaiser at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Tue Apr 25 03:53:30 2000 From: dwkaiser at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (David Kaiser) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 22:53:30 -0500 Subject: Year 2000 In-Reply-To: <199912050820.RAA02231@tsuji.yt.cache.waseda.ac.jp> Message-ID: What is the ordinal for two thousand? Is it dvuxtysjachnyj? Do Russians report dates as pervogo maja dvuxtysjachnogo goda? Dvetysjachnogo goda? Something else? Thanks for your help. Dave Kaiser University of Chicago "A shared purpose did not claim my identity. On the contrary, it enlarged my sense of myself." Senator John McCain ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pc-er at MAIL.RU Tue Apr 25 07:02:17 2000 From: pc-er at MAIL.RU (Alex Yumashin) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 03:02:17 -0400 Subject: Looking for contacts with Slavic students Message-ID: Hi, I'm Russian. 27 y.o. Male. Live in Moscow. My name is Alexej. I'm interested in communicating with students from the Slavonic Studies via Internet in Russian. Years ago I studied in a school with intensive English learning and I know how it can be useful to have a chance to talk to a native speaker. If you want you can drop me a line by e-mail and I will answer you. I'm just looking for new friends. My e-mail: pc-er at mail.ru If any problems with Russian fonts - just tell, I'll send. Please respond to my e-mail address, not to the SEELANGS list. I'll also be very grateful if You post this message to any of the higher schools with Slavonic Studies You know. Thanx in advance, Alex Yumashin. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From as at TICOM.KHARKOV.UA Tue Apr 25 07:39:06 2000 From: as at TICOM.KHARKOV.UA (Alex) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 10:39:06 +0300 Subject: Year 2000 Message-ID: David Kaiser wrote: > > What is the ordinal for two thousand? Is it dvuxtysjachnyj? Do Russians > report dates as pervogo maja dvuxtysjachnogo goda? Dvetysjachnogo goda? > Something else? Thanks for your help. > > Dave Kaiser > University of Chicago > > "A shared purpose did not claim my identity. > On the contrary, it enlarged my sense of myself." > Senator John McCain Третьего мая двухтысячного года мне будет сорок девять лет... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. 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It contains items on the following topics, by the following authors: CLUBS: Russian Club Life--Nadezhda Azhgikhina SEX: "About That": Sexuality in Postsoviet Russia--Eliot Borenstein ART: THE Russian Museum--Mikhail Gnedovsky GLOSSIES: Russian Popular Magazines (Gliantsy)--Helena Goscilo FILM: Stalinism in Postsoviet Film--Susan Larsen LITERATURE: Russian Fiction of the '90s--Mark Lipovetsky The issue sells for $15 and may be ordered through: STCL Dept. of Modern Langs. & Lits. PO Box 8803318 Univ. of Nebraska-Lincoln Lincoln NE 68588-0318 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From E.Mikhailik at UNSW.EDU.AU Tue Apr 25 14:41:07 2000 From: E.Mikhailik at UNSW.EDU.AU (Elena Mikhailik) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 00:41:07 +1000 Subject: Year 2000 In-Reply-To: <200004250544.AAA15671@harper.uchicago.edu> Message-ID: At 22:53 24/04/00 -0500, you wrote: It's "dvuhtysyachnyi" and "dvyhtysyachnogo". Elena Mikhailik UNSW >What is the ordinal for two thousand? Is it dvuxtysjachnyj? Do Russians >report dates as pervogo maja dvuxtysjachnogo goda? Dvetysjachnogo goda? >Something else? Thanks for your help. > >Dave Kaiser >University of Chicago > > >"A shared purpose did not claim my identity. >On the contrary, it enlarged my sense of myself." > Senator John McCain > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription > options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: > http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From gfowler at INDIANA.EDU Tue Apr 25 21:33:59 2000 From: gfowler at INDIANA.EDU (George Fowler) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 16:33:59 -0500 Subject: Question about Russian airplane names Message-ID: Greetings! An old friend of mine (no connection to our field, though he did take Russian in college) sent me a message asking about Russian names or nicknames for some of their airplanes. I have the strong impression that Russians do in fact use the alphanumeric designations even in casual discourse, but I would be happy to be proven wrong on this. If anyone knows of some more descriptive names, or a source to look them up in, please email me off list. Thanks! George Fowler >In our modeling and simulation efforts for AFOTEC, we are periodically called >upon to model Russian fighter aircraft. The NATO designations for these are >very well known - Fishbed for the MiG-21, Flogger for the MiG-23, Foxbat >for the MiG-25, Fulcrum for the MiG-29, and Foxhound for the MiG-31, for >example. > >Do you know what the Russians themselves call these aircraft, or do you know >likely sources for this information? I've done a little Web surfing >and so far can only come up with the NATO designations. The Jane's >aircraft series notes that there are factory designations for these >aircraft (the Fulcrum-A is aircraft 9.13, for instance, with the >Foxbat-D called aircraft 02K). But I have to think that they have >actual names for these aircraft, and I'm pretty sure they only use >the NATO names themselves when talking to Westerners. ************************************************************************ George Fowler [Email] gfowler at indiana.edu Dept. of Slavic Languages [dept. tel.] 1-812-855-9906/-2608/-2624 Ballantine 502 [dept. fax] 1-812-855-2107 1020 E. Kirkwood Ave. [home tel.] 1-317-726-1482 Indiana University [home fax] 1-317-726-1642 Bloomington, IN 47405-7103 [Slavica tel.] 1-812-856-4186 USA [Slavica fax] 1-812-856-4187 ************************************************************************ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From bougakov at MAIL.RU Fri Apr 28 08:40:46 2000 From: bougakov at MAIL.RU (Alexandre Bougakov) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 12:40:46 +0400 Subject: Question about Russian airplane names Message-ID: Hello, George, It is the my second letter to you - the first was gone couple of minutes ago when a small power failure occured. I have typed more than a page!!! Maybe it is a good time to buy an UPS, or maybe FSB (Federal Security Service) is watching me and prevents me from sending "military secrets" in the US.... ;-) Anyway, I will try to write it again (but now a little bit more shortly) Russians really use the alphanumeric designations even in everyday life when speaking about the army and other things related to it. There are no habit to give some special "nicknames" to the aircrafts. The only exclusions I know are "Chernaya Akula" ("Black Shark") - Ka-50 helicopter - and Mi-24 heavy attack helicopter (or not 24, I can be mistaking) - "Crocodile" or "Alligator", which actually looks like a crocodile's head. People also call the fighters from the Sukhoi family (Su-25, also known as "Grach" - "The Rook", Su-27 and Su-31) with the word "Suschka" ("Toast") Giving names to the ground weaponry is a little bit more popular. But it seems to me that sometimes people who develop them just open the dictionary on the random page and choose the first word they see. Can you imagine the american soldiers who will give the name "Buratino" ("Pinnochio") to the heavy track-based rocket launcher? Or maybe it is so-called "military humour" which the civilians will never understand... The situation with the names changes since "Roswooruzhenije" began selling high-tech weaponry to the other states (China, India, Greece, the countries of the Latin America). High quality goods (even weaponry!) need impressive brandnames, it is the law of marketing. These names do not spread very fast - these words come in the everyday speech of the society from the militaries, but since the ministery of defense doesn't buy new weaponry for the army there are no new words to come in the lexicon. Maybe you should ask Chinese how do they call new russian weaponry ;-) You can also try to use russian search engines, such as http://www.yandex.ru (my favorite, by the way), http://www.aport.ru and http://www.rambler.ru, or some web-catalogues, such as http://list.ru or http://www.ru to find websites of military history clubs. Maybe people from there will help you if you will write them. Of course, if they will not find suspicious, that the American, "who studied Russian very long time ago" is interested in the modern Russian weaponry... sorry, I am joking again... Best, Alexandre Bougakov Student of the sociological faculty of the Higher School of Economics (http://www.hse.ru), Moscow, Russian Federation My website is http://SocioLink.narod.ru/ (thousands of sociology related links on the Web) My PGP key ID is 0x97F20C99, Key Fingerprint is C83C 5998 F43A BEB7 70DF B8FC CC5E 960E 97F2 0C99 (PGP version is 6.0.2i) P.S. And another (maybe absolutely mad idea) - maybe you should go to the nearest computershop and will buy an aircraft simulator game? I am not joking - I am absolutely sure that you will find all the "nicknames", American and Russian, there. It is not so obvious, but I think, I am right. -----Original Message----- From: George Fowler [SMTP:gfowler at INDIANA.EDU] Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 1:34 AM To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU Subject: Question about Russian airplane names Greetings! An old friend of mine (no connection to our field, though he did take Russian in college) sent me a message asking about Russian names or nicknames for some of their airplanes. I have the strong impression that Russians do in fact use the alphanumeric designations even in casual discourse, but I would be happy to be proven wrong on this. If anyone knows of some more descriptive names, or a source to look them up in, please email me off list. Thanks! George Fowler >In our modeling and simulation efforts for AFOTEC, we are periodically called >upon to model Russian fighter aircraft. The NATO designations for these are >very well known - Fishbed for the MiG-21, Flogger for the MiG-23, Foxbat >for the MiG-25, Fulcrum for the MiG-29, and Foxhound for the MiG-31, for >example. > >Do you know what the Russians themselves call these aircraft, or do you know >likely sources for this information? I've done a little Web surfing >and so far can only come up with the NATO designations. The Jane's >aircraft series notes that there are factory designations for these >aircraft (the Fulcrum-A is aircraft 9.13, for instance, with the >Foxbat-D called aircraft 02K). But I have to think that they have >actual names for these aircraft, and I'm pretty sure they only use >the NATO names themselves when talking to Westerners. ************************************************************************ George Fowler [Email] gfowler at indiana.edu Dept. of Slavic Languages [dept. tel.] 1-812-855-9906/-2608/-2624 Ballantine 502 [dept. fax] 1-812-855-2107 1020 E. Kirkwood Ave. [home tel.] 1-317-726-1482 Indiana University [home fax] 1-317-726-1642 Bloomington, IN 47405-7103 [Slavica tel.] 1-812-856-4186 USA [Slavica fax] 1-812-856-4187 ************************************************************************ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From delle at TACONIC.NET Wed Apr 26 13:23:35 2000 From: delle at TACONIC.NET (Mary Delle LeBeau) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 09:23:35 -0400 Subject: Olga Sedakova Message-ID: Dear SEELANGS: Help! Can any of the members assist me in finding the address and telephone of Olga Sedakova? I've made some calls to Moscow, to no avail. I am doing graduate research on her poetry and need to contact her concerning this. Even suggestions toward finding her address would be greatly appreciated. Thanking you in advance for your kind attention to this request, Mary Delle LeBeau ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From buss at USTANNE.EDNET.NS.CA Wed Apr 26 14:27:09 2000 From: buss at USTANNE.EDNET.NS.CA (Andreas Buss) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 11:27:09 -0300 Subject: message Message-ID: By way of introduction: I am a sociologist, studying and writing about the economic ethics of Russian-Orthodox Christianity, also but not only interested in Old Believers. I would like to spend the month of June in Moscow, mainly to establish contacts. Not wanting to spend all that time in an expensive hotel, I would prefer a private invitation (also use- ful for the visa-application). Can anyone help? Dr. Andreas Buss Professor of Sociology Université Sainte-Anne Church Point, N.S. Canada BOW 1MO ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From as at TICOM.KHARKOV.UA Wed Apr 26 05:25:06 2000 From: as at TICOM.KHARKOV.UA (Alex) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 08:25:06 +0300 Subject: Question about Russian airplane names Message-ID: George Fowler wrote: > > Greetings! > > An old friend of mine (no connection to our field, though he did take > Russian in college) sent me a message asking about Russian names or > nicknames for some of their airplanes. I have the strong impression > that Russians do in fact use the alphanumeric designations even in > casual discourse, but I would be happy to be proven wrong on this. If > anyone knows of some more descriptive names, or a source to look them > up in, please email me off list. Thanks! If you mean military airplanes - this is true. Especially for fighters. But some large transport planes do have names. And some historical air planes had personal names too. Some helicopters have nick names. Regards Alex ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From anthony.j.vanchu1 at JSC.NASA.GOV Wed Apr 26 19:17:02 2000 From: anthony.j.vanchu1 at JSC.NASA.GOV (VANCHU, ANTHONY J. (JSC-AH)) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 14:17:02 -0500 Subject: Grammatical/Phraseological Query Message-ID: The Russian equivalent for "Astronaut Candidate" has me a bit puzzled as to its underlying grammar/phraseology, and I'm hoping someone out there might have an answer as to why this construction is used and why it is considered grammatically correct. The phrase is: "kandidat v astronavty." What's puzzling, of course, is the nominative plural ending on "astronavty." I suspect it has to do with this being an elliptical construction, but I've not been able to find out the missing elements might be. I suspect that there are other, non-space related, analogies and would be grateful for whatever light my fellow SEELANGers can shed on this. Please reply off list. Thanks in advance, Tony Vanchu Dr. Anthony J. Vanchu Russian Language Program Director TTI/JSC Language Education Center Johnson Space Center Houston, TX (281) 483-0644 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katherine.Lahti at MAIL.TRINCOLL.EDU Wed Apr 26 19:42:19 2000 From: Katherine.Lahti at MAIL.TRINCOLL.EDU (Katherine Lahti) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 15:42:19 -0400 Subject: Grammatical/Phraseological Query In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Why reply off-list Tony?!? This is one of my favorite questions and would like to hear what the others have to say. In fact v + (nominative-looking) plural of male (?) professions is a pretty common locution usually with the meaning of intending to become one (of that group). On p. 246 of Robin's and Sime's *Political Russian* we have kandidat v sud'i v gubernatory v chleny palaty predstavitelej v kongresmeny I think I've heard Russians say things like "On uchilsia v vrachi," and the like. There's also a famous children's ditty "Ja poidu v pozharnye, pust' menja nauchit." (I've heard it's Mayakovsky. I know I should know, but I don't.) About the question of what case it is, in *Continuing with Russian* (Now, Tony, why might I have an old copy of that lying around?) p. 260, C.T. states "The idea of joining a group or entering the ranks of something is sometimes expressed by a motion verb plus "v" plus an accusative plural, which does not assume the genitive form for animates and, hence, is equivalent to the nominative plural." He gives the following examples: Ona vyshla v ljudi. On postupil (poshel) v soldaty. Interesting new case, the less-than-animate profession. Sitting at my office desk this afternoon I can somehow relate. Calling all others! What else do you have to say? As I said, this is one of my favorite weird things. >The Russian equivalent for "Astronaut Candidate" has me a bit puzzled as to >its underlying grammar/phraseology, and I'm hoping someone out there might >have an answer as to why this construction is used and why it is considered >grammatically correct. > >The phrase is: "kandidat v astronavty." What's puzzling, of course, is the >nominative plural ending on "astronavty." I suspect it has to do with this >being an elliptical construction, but I've not been able to find out the >missing elements might be. I suspect that there are other, non-space >related, analogies and would be grateful for whatever light my fellow >SEELANGers can shed on this. > >Please reply off list. > >Thanks in advance, > >Tony Vanchu > >Dr. Anthony J. Vanchu >Russian Language Program Director >TTI/JSC Language Education Center >Johnson Space Center >Houston, TX >(281) 483-0644 > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription > options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: > http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------- Katherine Lahti, Associate Professor tel.: (860) 297-2378 Department of Modern Languages fax.: (860) 297-5111 Trinity College http://www.trincoll.edu/~lahti/ Hartford, CT 06106 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From tom.priestly at UALBERTA.CA Wed Apr 26 20:21:20 2000 From: tom.priestly at UALBERTA.CA (Tom Priestly) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 14:21:20 -0600 Subject: Grammatical/Phraseological Query In-Reply-To: <200004261940.NAA09503@pilsener.srv.ualberta.ca> Message-ID: To add to the Lahti/Vanchu debate: When I was being taught Russian (in the British army, eons ago) I remember being told that a good way to understand the use of *v* plus the nominative of persons, as in idti v gosti is to use this construction when *v* means "among" rather than "into". This will 'work' for the examples cited so far, all of which involve professions. Perhaps a context can be devised where idti v gostej would be appropriate - something physically penetrating the guests? Anyway, perhaps it is more than just "professions". Tom Priestly ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Professor Tom Priestly Modern Languages and Cultural Studies University of Alberta Edmonton, AB T6G 2E6 Canada voice: 780-492-5688 fax: 780-492-9106 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From wfr at SAS.AC.UK Wed Apr 26 20:56:03 2000 From: wfr at SAS.AC.UK (William Ryan) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 21:56:03 +0100 Subject: Grammatical/Phraseological Query Message-ID: This is normally considered to be a survival of the Old Russian accusative plural, which survives in some dialects. The genitive-accusative spread to the plural from the singular relatively late. The nominative-accusative in expressions of this type survives now as a phraseological formula (cf. vyiti zamuzh) despite the modernity of kosmonavt. Will Ryan Katherine Lahti wrote: > Why reply off-list Tony?!? > > This is one of my favorite questions and would like to hear what the others > have to say. > > In fact v + (nominative-looking) plural of male (?) professions is a pretty > common locution usually with the meaning of intending to become one (of > that group). > > On p. 246 of Robin's and Sime's *Political Russian* we have > > kandidat v sud'i > v gubernatory > v chleny palaty predstavitelej > v kongresmeny > > I think I've heard Russians say things like "On uchilsia v vrachi," and the > like. > > There's also a famous children's ditty "Ja poidu v pozharnye, pust' menja > nauchit." (I've heard it's Mayakovsky. I know I should know, but I don't.) > > About the question of what case it is, in *Continuing with Russian* (Now, > Tony, why might I have an old copy of that lying around?) p. 260, C.T. > states "The idea of joining a group or entering the ranks of something is > sometimes expressed by a motion verb plus "v" plus an accusative plural, > which does not assume the genitive form for animates and, hence, is > equivalent to the nominative plural." He gives the following examples: > > Ona vyshla v ljudi. > > On postupil (poshel) v soldaty. > > Interesting new case, the less-than-animate profession. Sitting at my > office desk this afternoon I can somehow relate. > > Calling all others! What else do you have to say? As I said, this is one of > my favorite weird things. > > >The Russian equivalent for "Astronaut Candidate" has me a bit puzzled as to > >its underlying grammar/phraseology, and I'm hoping someone out there might > >have an answer as to why this construction is used and why it is considered > >grammatically correct. > > > >The phrase is: "kandidat v astronavty." What's puzzling, of course, is the > >nominative plural ending on "astronavty." I suspect it has to do with this > >being an elliptical construction, but I've not been able to find out the > >missing elements might be. I suspect that there are other, non-space > >related, analogies and would be grateful for whatever light my fellow > >SEELANGers can shed on this. > > > >Please reply off list. > > > >Thanks in advance, > > > >Tony Vanchu > > > >Dr. Anthony J. 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Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dworth at UCLA.EDU Wed Apr 26 22:38:35 2000 From: dworth at UCLA.EDU (Dean Worth) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 15:38:35 -0700 Subject: Grammatical/Phraseological Query Message-ID: Dear Tony and others, At the risk of immodesty, let me mention that there's an article on this subject: "Vtoroj vinitel'nyj v sovremennom russkom literaturnom jazyke," _Liki jazyka. K 45-letiju nauchnoj dejatel'nosti E.A. Zemskoj_, Moscow, 1998, pp. 7-13, with references to some of the literature. Dean Worth At 02:17 PM 4/26/00 -0500, you wrote: >The Russian equivalent for "Astronaut Candidate" has me a bit puzzled as to >its underlying grammar/phraseology, and I'm hoping someone out there might >have an answer as to why this construction is used and why it is considered >grammatically correct. > >The phrase is: "kandidat v astronavty." What's puzzling, of course, is the >nominative plural ending on "astronavty." I suspect it has to do with this >being an elliptical construction, but I've not been able to find out the >missing elements might be. I suspect that there are other, non-space >related, analogies and would be grateful for whatever light my fellow >SEELANGers can shed on this. > >Please reply off list. > >Thanks in advance, > >Tony Vanchu > >Dr. Anthony J. Vanchu >Russian Language Program Director >TTI/JSC Language Education Center >Johnson Space Center >Houston, TX >(281) 483-0644 > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription > options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: > http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rar at SLAVIC.UMASS.EDU Wed Apr 26 22:38:14 2000 From: rar at SLAVIC.UMASS.EDU (Robert A. Rothstein) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 18:38:14 -0400 Subject: Grammatical/Phraseological Query Message-ID: Two relevant articles: Igor' Mel'cuk, "O padezhe sushchestvitel'nykh v russkoi konstruktsii tipa _idti v soldaty_, _Svantevit_ [Arhus, Denmark] 5 (1980), 1/2: 5-32, reprinted as chapter 22 of his _Russkii iazyk v modeli "Smysl -- Tekst"_ (Moscow-Vienna, 1995). Robert A. Rothstein, "A Note on Grammatical Metonymy in Russian," _Folia Slavica_ 1 (1977): 96-100. The latter ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From centrist_2000 at YAHOO.COM Thu Apr 27 00:05:59 2000 From: centrist_2000 at YAHOO.COM (centrist centrist) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 17:05:59 -0700 Subject: Grammatical/Phraseological Query Message-ID: > > I think I've heard Russians say things like "On > uchilsia v vrachi," and the > like. I beg to differ: I am a native Russian speaker and the correct phrase will be: "On poshel vo vrachi" (though a bit too old fashioned, perhaps) or" On vyuchils'a na vracha". > > There's also a famous children's ditty "Ja poidu v > pozharnye, pust' menja > nauchit." (I've heard it's Mayakovsky. I know I > should know, but I don't.) > Ja w pozhrnye pojdu, pust' men'a nauchat... Again, very few people will say like this now. There will be even some stylistic effect - an implication that you allude to some old style, to someone old-fashioned or provincial who would say this way. Pavel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online and get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU Thu Apr 27 00:25:35 2000 From: aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU (Alina Israeli) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 20:25:35 -0400 Subject: Grammatical/Phraseological Query Message-ID: >To add to the Lahti/Vanchu debate: > >When I was being taught Russian (in the British army, eons ago) I remember >being told that a good way to understand the use of *v* plus the nominative >of persons, as in > >idti v gosti > >is to use this construction when *v* means "among" rather than "into". This >will 'work' for the examples cited so far, all of which involve >professions. >Perhaps a context can be devised where > >idti v gostej > >would be appropriate - something physically penetrating the guests? No, penetrating is not a good metaphor. "among" is indeed a good idea. About 20 years ago Mel'chuk published an article about it in Russian Linguistics. Everything is good, except it should not be called Nominative. We have Genitive-2, and Locative/Prepositional-2, we can live with Accusative-2. There is no need to wreck the syntactic system of the language: Nominative is the case of the expressed grammatical subject. This construction means 'joining the ranks of' intransitively or 'taking/leading into the ranks of' transitively: idti v soldaty naprashivat'sja v druz'ja gotovit'sja v uchitelja vyjti v ljudi metit' v generaly prosit'sja v storozha otpravit' v soldaty vyvesti v ljudi and many others. "Ja by v letchiki poshel, pust' menja nauchat" There a few nouns that have the same function: kandidat v prezidenty vybory v prezidenty priem v pionery etc. ************************************************************** Alina Israeli LFS, American University phone: (202) 885-2387 4400 Mass. Ave., NW fax: (202) 885-1076 Washington, DC 20016 aisrael at american.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ilon at UT.EE Thu Apr 27 00:50:43 2000 From: ilon at UT.EE (Ilon Fraiman) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 03:50:43 +0300 Subject: ruthenia news Message-ID: Dobryj den'! Prezhde vsego novost' dlja podpischikov, kotorye zagljadyvajut na "Ruteniju" tol'ko po prislannym mnoju ssylkam. V razdele "Nezavisimye proekty na "Rutenii"" popolnenie. Teper' dostupna setevaja versija zhurnala "Logos". Podrobnee: http://www.ruthenia.ru/hronika.html?date=2000-04-24#227191 V "Nemzereskah" http://www.ruthenia.ru/nemzer/ chitajte zavtra novuju stat'ju A. S. Nemzera. Sredi soobschenij o novyh knigah - reguljarnaja vyborka iz spiska novyh postuplenija v jelektronnyj katalog Rossijskoj gosudarstvennoj biblioteki: s 10 po 15 aprelja http://www.ruthenia.ru/hronika.html?date=2000-04-20#225158 i s 17 po 22 aprelja http://www.ruthenia.ru/hronika.html?date=2000-04-27#228833 Ob"edinennoe gumanitarnoe izdatel'stvo vypustilo knigu Omri Ronena, knigu Modesta Kolerova i sobranie sochinenij pojeta Julija Gugoleva. Podrobnosti sm. : http://www.ruthenia.ru/hronika.html?date=2000-04-24#226973 EX-LIBRIS soobschil o vyhode sbornika statej i jesse o Nabokove, memuarov knjazja Sergeja Scherbatova i knigi o russkom konservatizme XIX stoletija. Opisanija knig: http://www.ruthenia.ru/hronika.html?date=2000-04-20#225365 Novaja kniga Jakova Gordina na populjarnuju temu: http://www.ruthenia.ru/hronika.html?date=2000-04-27#228811 Nakonec opisanie novoj knigi o futurizme sm. : http://www.ruthenia.ru/hronika.html?date=2000-04-24#226750 "Akademicheskaja zhizn'". Informacija o lekcijah v Stjenforde Aleksandra Galushkina: http://www.ruthenia.ru/hronika.html?date=2000-04-19#225560 i professora Aleksandra Kamenskogo: http://www.ruthenia.ru/hronika.html?date=2000-04-27#225582 V Permi prohodili Djagilevskie chtenija: http://www.ruthenia.ru/hronika.html?date=2000-04-19#193542 a v Saratove konferencija molodyh uchenyh. http://www.ruthenia.ru/hronika.html?date=2000-04-19#190410 Vesnoj po tradicii provodjatsja studencheskie konferencii. Tak, v konce nedeli, nachnetsja konferencija v Rige: http://www.ruthenia.ru/hronika.html?date=2000-04-27#162809 i v Tartu: http://www.ruthenia.ru/hronika.html?date=2000-04-27#162809 Programmu tartuskoj konferencii molodyh filologov-rusistov sm. : http://www.ruthenia.ru/document/228791.html Vil'njus zhe stal mestom provedenija mezhdunarodnogo seminara "Nereshennye problemy slavistiki": http://www.ruthenia.ru/hronika.html?date=2000-04-27#193395 Informaciju o grjaduschem prazdnovanii vos'midesjatiletija so dnja rozhdenija Davida Samojlova i svjazannyh s jubileem meroprijatijah sm. : http://www.ruthenia.ru/anonslist.html?date=2000-05-28#2000-05-28 V Tallinnskom pedagogicheskom universitete zaschischalas' doktorskaja dissertacija: http://www.ruthenia.ru/hronika.html?date=2000-04-25#227991 Dovol'no pozdno stalo izvestno o provedenii v Moskve konferencii po Majakovskomu, pojetomu soobschenie o nej bylo pomescheno srazu v Arhiv: http://www.ruthenia.ru/document/226511.html Po tehnicheskim prichinam "Ssylka nedeli" na jetoj nedele skoree vsego ne pojavitsja. V nachale sledujuschej nedeli chitajte srazu dva vypuska: http://www.ruthenia.ru/hotlinks.html S nastupajuschimi prazdnikami! Ilon Fraiman staff at ruthenia.ru ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ewb2 at CORNELL.EDU Thu Apr 27 11:30:25 2000 From: ewb2 at CORNELL.EDU (ewb2 at CORNELL.EDU) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 07:30:25 -0400 Subject: Croatian reader In-Reply-To: <36.4f41d68.263520e2@aol.com> Message-ID: Something old but useful: Ante Kadic, Croatian reader, with vocabulary. s'-Gravenhage, Mouton, 1960. Short texts--some literary, some not--with notes and a fairly good vocabulary listing. A few comparatively difficult longer ones, too, and samples of dialect. Wayles Browne, Cornell U. On Mon, 24 Apr 2000 Uchityel at AOL.COM wrote: > Dear colleague, > > I have worked through a couple of basic Croatian language textbooks and would > now like to do some reading at the early-intermediate level. Any > recommendations on interesting materials, preferably short selections, that > would be sequencially effective? (Annotated/graded readers, others?) > > All suggestions appreciated. > > Thanks in advance. > > Brian Lehmann > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription > options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: > http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ulrik_e at MAIL1.STOFANET.DK Thu Apr 27 12:37:11 2000 From: ulrik_e at MAIL1.STOFANET.DK (Ulrik D. Eskildsen) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 14:37:11 +0200 Subject: =?Windows-1252?Q?Das_serbische_M=E4dchen?= Message-ID: In Siegfried Lenz' short story "Das serbische Mädchen" (The Serbian Girl) is the main character named Dobrica. Could anyone explane me how to pronounce this name. In the movie that is based on the short story the girl is called Dobrila. Coul you give any reasons for this change? Am I right, when I suppose that Dobrica means "the good"? Hilsen Ulrik ****************************************************** Ulrik Eskildsen, Solbyen 24, DK-9000 Aalborg Tlf. / fax +45 - 98 12 74 66 http://danrus.subnet.dk http://opslag.subnet.dk http://home1.stofanet.dk/solbyen http://momo.subnet.dk ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU Thu Apr 27 13:18:44 2000 From: aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU (Alina Israeli) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 09:18:44 -0400 Subject: Grammatical/Phraseological Query Message-ID: >In fact v + (nominative-looking) plural of male (?) professions is a pretty >common locution usually with the meaning of intending to become one (of >that group). Not only of male: brat' v zheny godits'ja v docheri/v materi nabivat'sja v podrugi ************************************************************** Alina Israeli LFS, American University phone: (202) 885-2387 4400 Mass. Ave., NW fax: (202) 885-1076 Washington, DC 20016 aisrael at american.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU Thu Apr 27 13:39:57 2000 From: aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU (Alina Israeli) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 09:39:57 -0400 Subject: Grammatical/Phraseological Query Message-ID: > male (?) professions female professions: gotovit'sja v medsestry/v uchitel'nicy lezt' v poetessy strich'ja v monaxi i v monaxini otdat' v ucheniki i v uchenicy ************************************************************** Alina Israeli LFS, American University phone: (202) 885-2387 4400 Mass. Ave., NW fax: (202) 885-1076 Washington, DC 20016 aisrael at american.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From kel1 at COLUMBIA.EDU Thu Apr 27 14:31:40 2000 From: kel1 at COLUMBIA.EDU (Gordon N. Bardos, gnb12@columbia.edu) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 10:31:40 -0400 Subject: The Harriman Institute / Associated Press Conference Message-ID: The Seventh Annual Associated Press/ Harriman Institute Conference Russia After Yeltsin Friday, May 5, 2000 International Affairs Building, 15th Floor Columbia University in the City of New York 420 West 118th Street 9:00am Registration and Coffee 9:30am Welcome and Introductory Remarks Ambassador William Luers, President and Chairman, United Nations Association of the US, and Thomas Kent, Deputy Managing Editor, Associated Press 9:45am PANEL I: RUSSIA’S CHANGING POLITICAL SCENE Chair: Ambassador John Matlock, Institute for Advanced Studies, Princeton University, and former US Ambassador to the USSR Panelists: Stephen F. Cohen, New York University Alexander Motyl, Rutgers University Katherine Stoner-Weiss, Princeton University 12:00 LUNCHEON AND KEYNOTE ADDRESS – Thomas Graham, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace 2:00 PANEL II: THE FUTURE OF ECONOMIC REFORM – PROGRESS OR STAGNATION? Chair: Allen Sinai, Primark Decision Economics Panelists: Rose Brady, Buisnessweek Padma Desai, Columbia University Richard Ericson, Columbia University 4:00 PANEL III: WESTERN MEIDA COVERAGE OF RUSSIA Chair: Thomas Kent, Associated Press Panelists: John Heintz, Associated Press Moscow Bureau David Johnson, Center for Defense Information, and Editor, Johnson’s Russia List Serge Schmemann, The New York Times Closing Remarks by Catharine Nepomnyashchy, Assistant Director, Harriman Institute, Columbia University 6:00 Reception Registration Fee: $85. For more information, please contact our program officer, Gordon N. 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It¹s all the same to them whether they¹re alive or dead.¹ * * * * * The original of Nur-Mohammed's speech is: "Kakie lyudi? Ikh dusha davno rasseyalas', im vse ravno, zhivut oni ili net.' Can anyone suggest a better word than the literal "scattered"? I dislike it because it is so much less idiomatic than the original. But I don't want to move far away from it because the opposition "sobrat"/rasseyat'" is central to the theme of the book. Robert Chandler ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From djbpitt+seelangs at PITT.EDU Thu Apr 27 20:17:05 2000 From: djbpitt+seelangs at PITT.EDU (David J Birnbaum) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 16:17:05 -0400 Subject: aatseel web site down briefly for maintenance Message-ID: Dear SEELANGers, The AATSEEL web site went down for maintenance at around 3:00 p.m. Thursday, April 27. It should be up again by the end of the day on Friday, April 28. With apologies for the inconvenience, David (System Administrator) ________ Professor David J. Birnbaum Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures 1417 Cathedral of Learning University of Pittsburgh Pittsburgh, PA 15260 USA Voice: 1 412 624 5712 Fax: 1 412 624 9714 Email: djbpitt+ at pitt.edu URL: http://clover.slavic.pitt.edu/~djb/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dumanis at ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU Thu Apr 27 21:41:37 2000 From: dumanis at ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU (Edward M Dumanis) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 17:41:37 -0400 Subject: Platonov - Dzhan In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Robert Chandler wrote: > Hello! > > I have already translated, and co-translated several works by Andrey Platonov. At present I am translating the short novel DZHAN. I am having especial difficulty with the penultimate sentence of the following exchange: > > Chagataev went up to Mohammed and asked him where he was leading the people. > > Nur-Mohammed greeted Chagataev and replied: �What people? Their soul scattered?? long ago. It�s all the same to them whether they�re alive or dead.� > > * * * * * > > The original of Nur-Mohammed's speech is: > "Kakie lyudi? Ikh dusha davno rasseyalas', im vse ravno, zhivut oni ili net.' > > Can anyone suggest a better word than the literal "scattered"? I dislike it because it is so much less idiomatic than the original. But I don't want to move far away from it because the opposition "sobrat"/rasseyat'" is central to the theme of the book. > > Robert Chandler > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription > options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: > http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > In Russian, "dusha" (soul) is related to "dukh" (in the sense of "spirit"). The use of the singular form here is, most likely, a glimps of an accent of a non-native speker who is trying to say "Their spirits have gone a long time ago" or "have dissapeared long time ago." The use of "rassejat'sja" can be derived from cliche "rassejat'sja vo mrake" (to dissapear into darkness) - in my humble opinion, of course. Edward Dumanis ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From madonna at SOCRATES.BERKELEY.EDU Thu Apr 27 22:27:34 2000 From: madonna at SOCRATES.BERKELEY.EDU (madonna at SOCRATES.BERKELEY.EDU) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 15:27:34 -0700 Subject: Platonov - Dzhan In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Robert Chandler wrote: > "Kakie lyudi? Ikh dusha davno rasseyalas', im vse ravno, zhivut oni ili net.' > > Can anyone suggest a better word than the literal "scattered"? I dislike > it because it is so much less idiomatic than the original. But I don't > want to move far away from it because the opposition "sobrat"/rasseyat'" > is central try "dissipated." in english, we can use the dissipate/gather opposition of crowds, clouds, steam, power, force, etc. if that sounds too bookish, what about "dried up" or "evaporated"? sylvia (whose youth seems to have dissipated without ever really collecting itself) swift madonna at socrates.berkeley.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Uchityel at AOL.COM Sun Apr 30 03:11:13 2000 From: Uchityel at AOL.COM (Uchityel at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 23:11:13 EDT Subject: Croatian reader Message-ID: Thank you for your recommendation. Since this is probably out of print I may have to try an interlibrary loan. Gratefully, Brian ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From kortava at MAIL.RU Sat Apr 8 21:28:25 2000 From: kortava at MAIL.RU (kortava) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 01:28:25 +0400 Subject: unsibscribe kortava@mail.ru Message-ID: unsibscribe kortava at mail.ru ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at: http://members.home.net/lists/seelangs/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------