From rdelossa at fas.harvard.edu  Sun Jan  2 17:00:32 2000
From: rdelossa at fas.harvard.edu (Robert De Lossa)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 13:00:32 -0400
Subject: Solomea Pavlychko
Message-ID: <SUN.2.JAN.2000.130032.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

It is with great sadness that we have just learned here that Solomea
Pavlychko died on New Year's eve in an accident in her home. She was 41.
Many of us here worked with her in the varied areas in which she was a
vital force in Kyiv and beyond--Ukrainian literature, women's studies,
cultural studies. Besides being a leading intellectual force and author in
Ukraine, she also was an energetic and savvy entrepreneur (having
co-founded Osnovy, one of the few flourishing specialty presses in
Ukraine), had a decisively international and cosmopolitan outlook that
nonetheless was rooted in her country and its culture, and was a wonderful
person to be around. It was inspiring to work with her and engage her
intellect and vision. All of us will miss her tremendously.

Condolences can be faxed to the Institute of Literature at the Academy of
Sciences in Kyiv at 011-380-44-228-52-81.

Vichna ii pamiat'!

Rob De Lossa

____________________________________________________
Robert De Lossa
Director of Publications
Ukrainian Research Institute, Harvard University
1583 Massachusetts Ave., Cambridge, MA 02138
617-496-8768; fax. 617-495-8097
reply to: rdelossa at fas.harvard.edu
http://www.sabre.org/huri/


From mfrazier at mail.slc.edu  Mon Jan  3 15:45:09 2000
From: mfrazier at mail.slc.edu (frazier melissa)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 10:45:09 -0500
Subject: Int. and Adv. Russian classes
In-Reply-To: <v03020900b4953127fbcb@[140.247.202.158]>
Message-ID: <MON.3.JAN.2000.104509.0500.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Seelangers,

I have two questions about Intermediate and Advanced Russian language
classes.
First:  can anyone tell me where I could find the screenplay for "Beregis'
avtomobilia" which I remember reading with great pleasure as a student
and/or suggest other action-filled comedies (ideally attached to films but
literature alone would be fine, too) which would suit a very talented
second-year class?
Second:  I'm curious as to what people use to teach writing skills to
advanced Russian students, both native English-speakers who want a more
sophisticated writing style and heritage learners who can't tell the
difference between English and Russian syntax.  Is there a textbook out
there that focusses on writing skills?  I only know occasional pages in
textbooks offering lists of useful transitions, etc.

Any ideas would be much appreciated.  Please respond to me off-line at
mfrazier at mail.slc.edu.

Thank you,

Melissa Frazier


****************************
Melissa Frazier
Literature/Russian Dept.
Sarah Lawrence College
1 Mead Way
Bronxville, NY  10704
(914)395-2295
mfrazier at mail.slc.edu

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From dbranden at fas.harvard.edu  Mon Jan  3 17:18:44 2000
From: dbranden at fas.harvard.edu (David Brandenberger)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 12:18:44 EST
Subject: Russian textbooks 1945-1955
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> From: "edraitse at shiva.hunter.cuny.edu" <edraitse at shiva.hunter.cuny.edu>

> Does anybody have an idea where and how I could get hold of
> Russian textbooks of 1945-1955. I need to look at Rodnaia
> rech', Xrestomatia po russkoi literature, and history books
> for those years. Any suggestions?

These books are quite hard to locate in the states, although
they are all available in major Russian libraries.  Widener
Library at Harvard has:

Rodnaia rech: kniga dlia chteniia v III klasse for 1946 and '47;
Shestakov's Kratkii kurs istorii SSSR for 1945, '47 and '52;
and a Krestomatiia po russkoi literature from 1952 which seems
aimed at older students.

In my personal collection, I have a Rodnaia rech': kniga dlia
chteniia v II klasse for 1946 and perhaps one more edition
of Shestakov's history text.  There's also Nasha velikaia rodina.
Many of these I treat in my 1999 dissertation "The 'Short Course'
to Modernity: stalinist history textbooks, mass culture and the
formation of modern Russian national identity, 1934-1956."  Feel
free to contact me off-list.

Regards,
David Brandenberger

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From slbaehr at vt.edu  Mon Jan  3 17:50:27 2000
From: slbaehr at vt.edu (Stephen L. Baehr)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 12:50:27 -0500
Subject: Urgent help needed for Dr. Vadim Vatsuro
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Several days ago I was contacted by Prof. Mark Al'tshuller of the
University of Pittsburgh regarding the famed Pushkinist Vadim Erazmovich
Vatsuro of Pushkinskii dom. Dr. Vatsuro has lung cancer and will need three
sessions of chemotherapy. The Academy of Sciences will pay for the first
session, but they will be unable to pay for the remaining two, which cost
$1,500 each.

I am writing to request that as many colleagues as possible help in this
attempt to save Dr. Vatsuro's life.  Given the high cost of the
chemotheraphy, many donations will be needed; all help would be appreciated
as quickly as possible.

Please send contributions (marked "For Dr. Vadim Vatsuro") to:
        Prof. Alexander A. Dolinin
        2303 Keyes Ave.
        Madison, WI 53711
Thanks.
    Steve Baehr

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 Phones:(540) 231-8323 (direct); (540) 231-5361 (secretaries), 231-9846
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From slbaehr at vt.edu  Tue Jan  4 03:45:38 2000
From: slbaehr at vt.edu (Stephen L. Baehr)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 22:45:38 -0500
Subject: More on Vatsuro fund
Message-ID: <MON.3.JAN.2000.224538.0500.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

I was just told that my note did not indicate to whom checks to helo with
Dr. Vadim Vatsuro's chemotherapy should be made out. Please make checks
payable to Prof. Dolinin and send to the address mentioned in my original
posting, which I include below for reference. Prof. Dolinin will then get
the money to SPb.
Thanks.
Steve Baehr
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Original posting:

Several days ago I was contacted by Prof. Mark Al'tshuller of the
University of Pittsburgh regarding the famed Pushkinist Vadim Erazmovich
Vatsuro of Pushkinskii dom. Dr. Vatsuro has lung cancer and will need three
sessions of chemotherapy. The Academy of Sciences will pay for the first
session, but they will be unable to pay for the remaining two, which cost
$1,500 each.

I am writing to request that as many colleagues as possible help in this
attempt to save Dr. Vatsuro's life. Given the high cost of the
chemotheraphy, many donations will be needed; all help would be appreciated
as quickly as possible.

Please send contributions (marked "For Dr. Vadim Vatsuro") to:
Prof. Alexander A. Dolinin
2303 Keyes Ave.
Madison, WI 53711


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From murphy.386 at osu.edu  Tue Jan  4 20:59:11 2000
From: murphy.386 at osu.edu (Dianna Murphy)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 12:59:11 -0800
Subject: Cyrillic Language Kit and the iMac
Message-ID: <TUE.4.JAN.2000.125911.0800.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Seelangers,

HELP!

I recently installed the Cyrillic Language Kit on a new iMac.
Unfortunately, I can't get it to recognize any Cyrillic text from documents
created using an older version of the Language Kit on a Mac Performa.  I'm
using MS Word on both machines (6.0 and whatever comes with Office 98).

I would deeply appreciate any advice or suggestions!  Please respond
off-list to murphy.386 at osu.edu.

Thank you!
Dianna Murphy

**********
Department of Slavic and E. European Languages and Literatures
The Ohio State University

Department of Modern Foreign Languages
Ohio Wesleyan University

361 Olentangy St.
Columbus, OH  43202
(614) 267-9437
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From lmalcolm at gpu.srv.ualberta.ca  Tue Jan  4 18:01:55 2000
From: lmalcolm at gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (L Malcolm)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 11:01:55 -0700
Subject: FW: [PROJECT] LC announces release of Meeting of Frontiers Web Si
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Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 15:05:01 -0500
From: Tamara Swora-Gober <tswo at loc.gov>
Organization: Library of Congress
Subject: LC announces release of Meeting of Frontiers Web Site


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LIBRARY OF CONGRESS - MEETING OF FRONTIERS WEB SITE CHRONICLES PARALLEL
HISTORY OF AMERICA=92S WEST AND RUSSIA=92S EAST

The parallel experiences of the United States and Russia in exploring,
developing and settling their frontiers and the meeting of those
frontiers in Alaska and the Pacific Northwest is the focus of a new Web
site created by the Library of Congress under a special congressional
appropriation.  The site is available at

http://frontiers.loc.gov.

"Meeting of Frontiers" includes more than 2,500 items, comprising some
70,000 images, from the Library's rare book, manuscript, map, prints and
photograph, film and sound recording collections that tell the stories
of the explorers, fur traders, missionaries, exiles, gold miners and
adventurers that peopled both frontiers and their interactions with the
native peoples of Siberia and the American West.  The site is completely
bilingual, in English and Russian, and is intended for use in U.S. and
Russian schools and libraries and by the general public in both
countries.  Scholars, particularly those who do not have ready access to
major research libraries, will benefit from the wealth of primary
material included in "Meeting of Frontiers", much of which has never
been published or is extremely rare.

Collections available in "Meeting of Frontiers" include the Frank G.
Carpenter Collection of photographs from Alaska in the 1910s; the John
C. Grabill Collection of photographs of 1880s frontier life in Colorado,
South Dakota and Wyoming; the Yudin Collection of papers from the
Russian-American Company (1786-1830); and selections from the Alaska
Russian Church Archives.

"Meeting of Frontiers" is a pilot project that was developed in 1999 at
the Library of Congress by a team of Library staff and American and
Russian consultants.  The pilot will be expanded in the coming years
through the addition of materials from the Library's own collections,
from the Elmer E. Rasmuson Library at the University of Alaska Fairbanks
and from other U.S. institutions.  It will also feature materials from
partner institutions in Russia, including the Russian State Library in
Moscow, the National Library of Russia in St. Petersburg and the
Institute of History of the Siberian Branch of the Russian Academy of
Sciences in Novosibirsk.

"Meeting of Frontiers" is funded by a special appropriation in the
Library's FY 1999 budget, which is intended for the Library to obtain
digital copies of unique and rare materials from Russia and to make
those materials freely available through the Internet.  Additional
support for development of the project in Russia is being provided by
the Open Society Institute of Russia.  "Meeting of Frontiers" is the
Library's first major digital project involving international material
and extensive cooperation with foreign institutions to obtain materials
for the Library's collections in digital form.  It is the first
component of an international digital library that will build upon the
Library's National Digital Library Program.

The collection presentation links to items included in American Memory
as illustrations of the Frontiers themes.  The descriptive content for
this site is bilingual ---English and Russian and the English HTML is
searchable.  You may have to adjust your browser's settings to view
pages in Cyrillic properly (for <4.0 browsers).  Instructions on how to
do so are available via the Frontiers homepage and the About the Site page.

About the Site
The design of the pilot site combines elements of two approaches used by
the Library of Congress in presenting educational material in electronic
form: the collections-based approach of the National Digital Librarys
American Memory program, and the method of integrating items from many
collections to tell a single story that is used in Exhibitions: An
Online Gallery.   http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/

The site is designed to operate on three levels.

First, it provides an overview of the historical experience of the
frontier in Russia and America through six narrative sections:
Exploration, Colonization, Development, Alaska, Frontiers and National
Identity, and Mutual Perceptions.  Each of these sections includes
images that illustrate major events and themes, a bibliography with
suggestions for further reading, and links to other web sites with
related content.

Second, within each narrative section there are several modules that
present in greater depth themes relevant to that section.  These modules
contain many more images and additional explanatory text.  They
highlight both the similarities and the differences in the American and
Russian frontier experiences.

Third, Meeting of Frontiers contains complete or substantial parts of
more than twenty collections that have been selected for digitizing
because of their relevance to the American West and Siberia and the
Russian Far East. Items used to illustrate the narrative sections and
the thematic modules are drawn from but represent only a small portion
of these collections.

Users who are new to the subjects treated in Meeting of Frontiers are
advised to follow the narrative text and then explore the collections in
depth.  Users who already have a general grasp of the subject or who are
interested only in a specialized aspect of American or Russian history
may want to proceed directly to the collections.

Please direct questions about the Frontiers exhibition to mof at loc.gov


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From bettyleaver at hotmail.com  Tue Jan  4 18:36:27 2000
From: bettyleaver at hotmail.com (Betty Leaver)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 13:36:27 EST
Subject: advanced writing
Message-ID: <TUE.4.JAN.2000.133627.EST.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

This is in response to Melissa Frazier's question about teaching writing to
advanced students.

1. There are third-year textbooks that can help.
2. There are books on stylistics in Russia, but I don't know how many can be
obtained here. You might call Kamkin or other distributors and see what they
have.
3. Depending on how you are defining "advanced" (Level 2 proficiency, as per
ACTFL), or truly advanced (Level 3 and higher), a textbook, no matter how
good, may not be the answer. In teaching Level 3 and 4 speakers at the FSI,
we used authentic materials (i.e., texts prepared by native speakers for
native speakers with no pedagogical intent) from a variety of genres
(journals, newspapers, scripts, books, letters) in areas such as . One can
then analyze the structure of those texts, have students choose a different
topic, and write a composition, following the structure. This puts the onus
on the teacher to organize the course syllabus, but it can be much more
effective than using a textbook. Any textbook presumes a class of typical
students. No class is ever filled with only typical students.

Betty Lou Leaver
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From jglad at wam.umd.edu  Tue Jan  4 21:43:24 2000
From: jglad at wam.umd.edu (John Glad)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 17:43:24 -0400
Subject: A NEW HISTORY OF THE RUSSIAN EMIGRATION: "RUSSIA ABROAD"
Message-ID: <TUE.4.JAN.2000.174324.0400.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Russia Abroad: Writers, History, Politics
by John Glad, Foreword by Victor Terras
1999, 736 pages, cloth bound

$59.50 (discount to SEELANGS subscribers)

The ONLY COMPREHENSIVE HISTORY OF RUSSIAN EMIGRE LITERATURE & POLITICS
in any language!

Birchbark Press
2601 Woodley Pl. N.W.,
Suite 910
Washington, D.C. 20008
(202) 667-6386
(202) 745-7253 (fax)


 Contents

Foreword, Definitions, Tradition, Interaction of Russian Expatriate
Writers with the West

 The Pre-Soviet Period

Origins, Pilgrims, Travelers, Diplomats, Expatriates, The Politicals,
Exile Within the Empire, Moderates, Early Radicals, Future Soviet
Leaders, Religious Dissenters, America: Economic and Religious
Emigration, Alaska, Demographics, Poverty, Journalism, The Jews, Writers

 The Soviet Period

Politics: Political Fragmentation and Dashed Hopes for Intervention, The
Church, The Constitutional Democrats, The Social Revolutionaries, The
Men'sheviks, Monarchism, The Change of Landmarks (Smena vekh) Movement,
Eurasianism, The Mladoross (Young Russian) League, Solidarism, The
"Russian Fascists," "Postrevolutionary" (porevolyutsionnye) Movements,
"The Trust," Emigre Terrorism in Russia, Freemasonry and the Jews, The
Soviet Government and the Emigre Press, Repatriation, Soviet-Emigre
Relations, Statistics

Geography: Gallipoli-Istanbul, Berlin, Paris, Brussels, Prague,
Belgrade, Warsaw, Sofia, Riga, Tallinn, Scandinavia, Kovno,
Zuerich-Geneva, Kishinev, Uzhgorod, Harbin, Shanghai, Buenos Aires, Sao
Paolo, Jerusalem, British Columbia, San Francisco-Los Angeles, New York,
London, Athens, Rome, Tokyo, Sydney/Melbourne

The Nansen Certificate, Philosophers, Essayists, Critics,
Self-Evaluation: A Mission? Keepers of Culture, "Older" and "Younger"
Generations, Symbolism, The Parisian Note, "Experimenters, "
Independents, The Realists, "Exaggerated Prose," Historical Novelists,
Whimsical Writers, The Publishing Marketplace, Theater, Poverty and
Isolation, Former Tsarist Exiles in Positions of Power, The Approaching
War

 The Second Wave

World War II, The Early Postwar Period, Cynicism, Further Dispersion,
The Late 1940s and 1950s, Composition of the Emigre Community, Political
Groupings, Relations Between First and Second Waves, Geography,
Periodicals and Radio, Shul'gin's Open Letter, Prose Writers, Poets, The
"2 1/2" Wave," The Jewish Struggle for Emigration

 The Third Wave

Russian Jews or Jewish Russians?: A Crisis of Identity, Background, Self
Image, The Soviet Position on Emigration, Deprivation of Citizenship,
Ideology, America, Israel, Germany, Stay Or Go Home? The Mission and
Role of Russian Emigre literature, Assimilation, Attempts at
Soviet-Emigre Literary Detente, The Apolitical Reaction, Publications,
Writers of High Seriousness, The Aesthetes, Creators of Situations and
Ideas, The Natural School Reborn, Poets of High Seriousness,
Light-Hearted Poets, Dissolution of the Empire, Reunification at Last!
The "Near Abroad," Conclusions

 125-page Chronology

 28-page Bibliography

SAMPLE OF 75-PAGE ANNOTATED NAMES LIST:

Bulgakov, Valentin Fedorovich (1886-1966), scholar, memoirist, and prose
writer, personal secretary of Lev Tolstoi,  deported from the Soviet
Union: 1923, returned to Russia in 1949, pp. 178, 534, 537, 539, 552,
561, 571, 585.



REVIEWERS  COMMENTS

"The book is going to be far and away the most comprehensive source of
information on its subject ... the whole is a stupendous achievement and
is nicely rounded off by the end of the USSR." D. Barton Johnson,
University of California at Santa Barbara.

 A remarkably objective presentation of the facts, literary as well as
extra-literary, that make up the vast subject which he has grasped with
insightful erudition. I believe that it will not only serve as an
indispensable source of information, but also promote the general
understanding of the past, the present, and even the future of Russian
literature." Victor Terras, Brown University.

 Among books which are useful not only as a survey of the field, but
also in researching individual authors, Glad s definitely takes first
place,  Wolfgang Kasack, Zeitschrift fuer slavische Philologie.

"This is a fundamental study, detailed, and highly competent." Ivan
Tolstoi, Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty.

 A magnificent addition not only to our scholarship, but to Russian
culture in general!  Laszlo Dienes, University of Massachusetts at
Amherst.

 The first and only comprehensive study of all Russian literature
abroad. Let s hope it appears in Russian,  Boris Khazanov, Novyi
zhurnal.

 A most valuable study, interesting in and of itself; it lays the
groundwork for subsequent research,  Ludmila Foster, Kontinent.

 A serious and deep piece of research, a colossal source of information,
and a powerful stimulus for future researchers,  Valery Golovskoy,
Panorama.

 A very useful overview that surveys the emigration,  Pat Polansky,
Rossiyane v Azii.
  A major study,  Rostislav Polchaninov, Russkij amerikanets.



John Glad is the former Director of the Kennan Institute for Advanced
Russian Studies in the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars.
His books include "Literature in Exile" (Duke University Press),
"Conversations in Exile" (English edition: Duke University Press;
Russian edition: "Besedy v izgnanii," Knizhnaya Palata, Moscow), and
"Twentieth Century Russian Poetry" (University of Iowa Press). His
translations of Varlam Shalamov s "Kolyma Tales" (Penguin Modern
Classics) were judged one of the five best translations from any
language in the 1980 American Book Awards.



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From aaanem at facstaff.wm.edu  Tue Jan  4 23:26:35 2000
From: aaanem at facstaff.wm.edu (Tony Anemone)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 18:26:35 -0500
Subject: Non Fiction in Russian
Message-ID: <TUE.4.JAN.2000.182635.0500.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Having read the recent postings on the difficulties of translating
"non-fiction" into Russian, I was interested to see the following article
from the 7 December 1999 issue (pg 79) of "Itogi:"  "Pervaia iarmarka
intellektual'noi literatury non fiction." ("Non fiction" printed in Latin
letters.)

Tony Anemone

*       *       *       *       *       *       *       *       *
Tony Anemone
Associate Professor of Russian
Modern Languages & Literatures          757-221-3636 (work)
College of William & Mary               757-229-2743 (fax)
Williamsburg, VA 23187-8795             AAANEM at FACSTAFF.WM.EDU
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From wim.coudenys at arts.kuleuven.ac.be  Wed Jan  5 08:32:29 2000
From: wim.coudenys at arts.kuleuven.ac.be (Wim Coudenys)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 09:32:29 +0100
Subject: Russia abroad
Message-ID: <WED.5.JAN.2000.093229.0100.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Seelangers,
I would like to reply to the very positive announcement of John Glad's
'Russia Abroad'. I won't discuss the obvious merits of this book, for I am
sure it's the first overview of 'Russia abroad' in all its aspects.
Nevertheless, I had some serious doubts when I read the chapter on Belgium
(or Brussels - I don't have the book at hand). As I have been publishing on
Russians in Belgium, I was struck by the fact that Glad's small Belgian
chapter consisted almost completely of a weak and hasty summary of what my
colleague Vladimir Ronin (in 'Strana sinej pticy') and myself ('Ivan
Nazhivin v Bel'gii', - Kul'turnoe nasledie rossijskoj emigracii, 1994) have
written on the theme. Some of the things Glad writes are definitely
incorrect, and there's no reference as to his sources. I know this fact
isn't enough to put the whole book aside, but I was wondering whether Glad
had used this same approach to other chapters. I hope not, for I like the
very idea of a 'definite' history of the Russian emigration.
Sincerely,
Wim Coudenys
Dr. Wim Coudenys
Katholieke Universiteit Leuven
Dept. Oosterse en Slavische Studies
Blijde Inkomststraat 21
B-3000 Leuven
Belgium
http://onyx.arts.kuleuven.ac.be/slavic/coudenys/coudenys.htm
e-mail: wim.coudenys at arts.kuleuven.ac.be

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From K.R.Hauge at east.uio.no  Wed Jan  5 10:44:57 2000
From: K.R.Hauge at east.uio.no (Kjetil Ra Hauge)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 11:44:57 +0100
Subject: Cyrillic Language Kit and the iMac
In-Reply-To: <200001041758.MAA04256@mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu>
Message-ID: <WED.5.JAN.2000.114457.0100.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

>I recently installed the Cyrillic Language Kit on a new iMac.
>Unfortunately, I can't get it to recognize any Cyrillic text from documents
>created using an older version of the Language Kit on a Mac Performa.  I'm
>using MS Word on both machines (6.0 and whatever comes with Office 98).

It's Office 98, not the Language Kit, the iMac, or you. Although you can
write Cyrillic with Word 98, it will not recognise Cyrillic from documents
created with the Language Kit in earlier versions of Word. You should still
be able to use Word 6.0, but my suggestion would be to switch to someting
better - AppleWorks, FrameMaker or Nisus Writer.

-- Kjetil Rå Hauge, U. of Oslo. Phone +47/22856710, fax +47/22854140
-- (this msg sent from home, ph. +47/67148424, fax +1/5084372444 [eFax, U.S.])

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From ralph.cleminson at port.ac.uk  Wed Jan  5 11:33:33 2000
From: ralph.cleminson at port.ac.uk (Ralph Cleminson)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 11:33:33 GMT0BST
Subject: Medieval Medicine
Message-ID: <WED.5.JAN.2000.113333.GMT0BST.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Autumn Semester of the Department of Medieval Slavic Studies at
University of Sofia “St. Kliment Oxridski” August 2000

CALL FOR PAPERS: International Interdisciplinary Conference "Medieval
Medicine: Texts, Practices, and Institutions" organised by the
Department of Cyrillo-Methodian Studies at the University of Sofia
(Bulgaria), the Institute of History, Croatian Academy of Sciences,
Zagreb (Croatia), and the Theological Faculty at the University of
Veliko Turnovo (Bulgaria),         on August 29-31, 2000 in Rila
Monastery,  Bulgaria

The conference aims at uniting scholars working in the fields of
medieval medicine and history of healing institutions, cultural
history, archeology, linguistics, and anthropology. Both learned
medical practices and popular healing devices will be in the focus of
the discussions. Special panels will be organised on problems of
distribution of medical texts and their translations; medieval medical
codices; medical terminology; different healing practices; magic and
divination; healing prayers and amulets; medieval dietology; medieval
baths and healing springs; role of the monasteries as healing places;
monastic medicine and hospitals; cults of healer saints; exorcism;
medieval understanding of human body and illness; status of the doctor
and the healer; development of medical institutions; and Ancient
traditions in medieval medicine.

Papers on medieval medical texts, practices, and institutions in
Slavic and Byzantine world, Central Europe, Western Latin, Jewish, and
Islamic traditions, Armenia, and Georgia are equally welcome.
Proposals with the abstracts (up to the 200 words, preferably in
English or Russian) are invited by March 1,  2000 at the e-mail
addresses of:
 Dr. Adelina Angusheva (Sofia) <ady at slav.uni-sofia.bg>; Dr. Tatjana
 Buklijas (Croatia) <tatjana.buklijas at public.srce.hr>, Rossina Kostova
 (Veliko Turnovo) <rosina at vali.bg>, Ljubov Shishkova
 <igna at slav.uni-sofia.bg>, or Dr. Margaret Dimitrova (Sofia)
 <marg at bgnet.bg>.

If your presentation includes visual material, please, indicate it in
your proposal. The papers should be no longer than 10 pages (20
minutes presentation). The programs and summaries of the 1999 Autumn
semester may be seen on the Internet:
http://macmail/pages/oldbulpages/autumnsemester99.html

Organizing committee: Prof. Dr. Ivan Dobrev, Associated Member of the
Bulgarian Academy of Sciences; Associate Prof. Dr. Tatjana Slavova,
Prof. Dr. Kazimir Popkonstantinov, Dr. Adelina Angusheva, Dr. Tatjana
Bukljas, Irena Benjovsky, Rosina Kostova, Ljubov Shishkova
R.M.Cleminson,
Professor of Slavonic Studies,
University of Portsmouth,
Park Building,
King Henry I Street,
Portsmouth PO1 2DZ
tel. +44 23 92 846143, fax: +44 23 92 846040

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From hetzer at uni-bremen.de  Wed Jan  5 11:48:50 2000
From: hetzer at uni-bremen.de (AHetzer)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 12:48:50 +0100
Subject: Russia abroad
Message-ID: <WED.5.JAN.2000.124850.0100.>

Wim Coudenys wrote:
>
> Dear Seelangers,
> I would like to reply to the very positive announcement of John Glad's
> 'Russia Abroad'. I won't discuss the obvious merits of this book, for I am
> sure it's the first overview of 'Russia abroad' in all its aspects.

If the whole book is written by one author, mistakes and shortcomings
are inevitable. In German there is a similar book ed. by Karl Schlvgel.
Der Grosse Exodus. Munich 1994, 448 p., ISBN 3 406 38656 3

This one deals with the emigration up to WWII, and every single chapter
is written by another author (most of them translated from English). I
think such an approach is better, because no one can deal with all
aspects of Russian emigration on an equal level of quality.

Kind regards
AHetzer
--
PD Dr. Armin Hetzer
URL: http://www1.uni-bremen.de/~hetzer
Mailto: a_hetzer at yahoo.de; nikom at flashmail.com

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From rrobin at gwu.edu  Wed Jan  5 13:45:57 2000
From: rrobin at gwu.edu (Richard Robin)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 08:45:57 -0500
Subject: Cyrillic Language Kit and the iMac
Message-ID: <WED.5.JAN.2000.084557.0500.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Does anyone know if this is because Office 98 for the mac has now switched to
Unicode? I'm not a Mac user, but I have to exchange Cyrillic documents with Mac
Word users, and the adoption of Unicode for recent Microsoft Windows products
seems tot not have been duplicated on the Mac side. Are the current Mac OS and
 the
latest version of word processors now Unicode compatible? If so, cross-platform
Cyrillic issues should begin to disappear. (If not... I guess it's more of the
same ole-same ole.)

-Rich Robin

Kjetil Ra Hauge wrote:

> It's Office 98, not the Language Kit, the iMac, or you. Although you can
> write Cyrillic with Word 98, it will not recognise Cyrillic from documents
> created with the Language Kit in earlier versions of Word.

--
Richard Robin - http://gwis2.circ.gwu.edu/~rrobin
German and Slavic Dept.
The George Washington University
WASHINGTON, DC 20052
Can read HTML mail.
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From eginzbur at midway.uchicago.edu  Wed Jan  5 14:53:27 2000
From: eginzbur at midway.uchicago.edu (elizabeth ginzburg)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 08:53:27 -0600
Subject: Int. and Adv. Russian classes
Message-ID: <WED.5.JAN.2000.085327.0600.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

If you still need Beregis' automobilia, please, send your address to:
ginzburg at math.uchicago.edu, for Liza, and I will send a xerox to you.
Liza Ginzburg

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From vessela at u.washington.edu  Wed Jan  5 17:50:50 2000
From: vessela at u.washington.edu (Vessela S. Warner)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 09:50:50 -0800
Subject: Bosnian institutes
Message-ID: <WED.5.JAN.2000.095050.0800.>

Dear listfolks,
I am looking for any contacts with Bosinian students and/or scholars in
literature and theater. I'd be happy to communicate with such people via
E-mail (preferably in English), so any personal E-mail addresses, as
well as webpages of Bosnian cultural institutes, Universities, Drama
Academy will be a great asset to me.
Thank you!
Vessela Warner
School of Drama
University of Washington

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From brifkin at facstaff.wisc.edu  Wed Jan  5 17:58:07 2000
From: brifkin at facstaff.wisc.edu (Benjamin Rifkin)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 11:58:07 -0600
Subject: advanced writing
Message-ID: <WED.5.JAN.2000.115807.0600.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

In response to Betty Lou Leaver's comment about advanced level writing:

Most students in undergraduate Russian programs do not come near superior
level writing (level 3 in the ILR scale) in a mere 4 years of language
training.  This excludes from consideration those students who are heritage
learners; their background varies considerably.

For more information about realistic expectations of the achievement of
learners of Russian in the United States, see the following works:

Brecht, R., Davidson, D., and Ginsberg, R.  1993.  Predictors of Foreign
Language Gain During Study Abroad.  Washington, DC:  National Foreign
Language Center.

Carroll, J. B.  1967.  "Foreign Language Proficiency Levels Attained by
Language Majors Near Graduation from College."  Foreign Language Annals 1:
131-151. [NOT MUCH HAS CHANGED!]

Thompson, I.  1996.  "Assessing Foreign Language Skills: Data from Russian."
Modern Language Journal 80:  47-65.

In this context, **most** 3rd or 4th year Russian language classes in the US
should probably be focused on addressing the learning goals of students
whose speaking and writing proficiency is in the intermediate range (aiming
for production at the advanced level according to the ACTFL Proficiency
Guidelines.)  Again, this excludes the case of heritage learners and
learners with atypical learning backgrounds, e.g. returning missionaries.

Ben Rifkin





At 01:36 PM 1/4/00 EST, Betty Lou Leaver wrote:
>This is in response to Melissa Frazier's question about teaching writing to
>advanced students.
>
>3. Depending on how you are defining "advanced" (Level 2 proficiency, as per
>ACTFL), or truly advanced (Level 3 and higher), a textbook, no matter how
>good, may not be the answer.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Benjamin Rifkin, Assoc. Prof., Slavic Dept., UW-Madison
1432 Van Hise Hall, 1220 Linden Dr., Madison, WI  53706 USA
voice:  (608) 262-1623; fax:  (608) 265-2814

Director of the Russian School, Middlebury College
Freeman International Center, Middlebury, VT  05753 USA
voice:  (802) 443-5533
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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From napooka at aloha.net  Wed Jan  5 19:13:03 2000
From: napooka at aloha.net (Irene Thompson)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 09:13:03 -1000
Subject: advanced writing
In-Reply-To: <200001051758.LAA205916@mail1.doit.wisc.edu>
Message-ID: <WED.5.JAN.2000.091303.1000.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

For that matter, many native speakers do not achieve Superior-level writing
skills unless they are EDUCATED Native speakers.
Irene Thompson
At 11:58 AM 1/5/2000 -0600, you wrote:
>In response to Betty Lou Leaver's comment about advanced level writing:
>
>Most students in undergraduate Russian programs do not come near superior
>level writing (level 3 in the ILR scale) in a mere 4 years of language
>training.  This excludes from consideration those students who are heritage
>learners; their background varies considerably.
>
>For more information about realistic expectations of the achievement of
>learners of Russian in the United States, see the following works:
>
>Brecht, R., Davidson, D., and Ginsberg, R.  1993.  Predictors of Foreign
>Language Gain During Study Abroad.  Washington, DC:  National Foreign
>Language Center.
>
>Carroll, J. B.  1967.  "Foreign Language Proficiency Levels Attained by
>Language Majors Near Graduation from College."  Foreign Language Annals 1:
>131-151. [NOT MUCH HAS CHANGED!]
>
>Thompson, I.  1996.  "Assessing Foreign Language Skills: Data from Russian."
>Modern Language Journal 80:  47-65.
>
>In this context, **most** 3rd or 4th year Russian language classes in the US
>should probably be focused on addressing the learning goals of students
>whose speaking and writing proficiency is in the intermediate range (aiming
>for production at the advanced level according to the ACTFL Proficiency
>Guidelines.)  Again, this excludes the case of heritage learners and
>learners with atypical learning backgrounds, e.g. returning missionaries.
>
>Ben Rifkin
>
>
>
>
>
>At 01:36 PM 1/4/00 EST, Betty Lou Leaver wrote:
>>This is in response to Melissa Frazier's question about teaching writing to
>>advanced students.
>>
>>3. Depending on how you are defining "advanced" (Level 2 proficiency, as per
>>ACTFL), or truly advanced (Level 3 and higher), a textbook, no matter how
>>good, may not be the answer.
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Benjamin Rifkin, Assoc. Prof., Slavic Dept., UW-Madison
>1432 Van Hise Hall, 1220 Linden Dr., Madison, WI  53706 USA
>voice:  (608) 262-1623; fax:  (608) 265-2814
>
>Director of the Russian School, Middlebury College
>Freeman International Center, Middlebury, VT  05753 USA
>voice:  (802) 443-5533
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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From rrobin at gwu.edu  Wed Jan  5 19:02:36 2000
From: rrobin at gwu.edu (Richard Robin)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:02:36 -0500
Subject: advanced writing
Message-ID: <WED.5.JAN.2000.140236.0500.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

To that I would add my own piece about what constitutes realistic "product" in
writing Russian as L2:

Robin, Richard. 1998. "Writing Real Russian: Process or Product?" in And Meaning
for a Life Entire: Festschrift for Charles Moser (Peter Rollberg, ed.). pp
479-498. Bloomington, Indiana: Slavica.

Benjamin Rifkin wrote:

> In response to Betty Lou Leaver's comment about advanced level writing:
>
> Most students in undergraduate Russian programs do not come near superior
> level writing (level 3 in the ILR scale) in a mere 4 years of language
> training.  This excludes from consideration those students who are heritage
> learners; their background varies considerably.
>

--
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German and Slavic Dept.
The George Washington University
WASHINGTON, DC 20052
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From rrobin at gwu.edu  Wed Jan  5 22:25:12 2000
From: rrobin at gwu.edu (Richard Robin)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:25:12 -0500
Subject: Non Fiction in Russian
Message-ID: <WED.5.JAN.2000.172512.0500.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Applause to Tony Anemone for finding an attested form in answer to the
"non-fiction" query!

SEELANGS gets lots of Kak po-russki riddles. I'll archive any attested finds at
the GW site: http://www.gwu.edu/~slavic/nrs. In that vein can anyone name the
page where Pelevin uses "message" in direct Cyrillic transliteration (minus the
silent e: MESSAG, I'm pretty sure) in Generation P? I'd like to snag that one
as well.

-Rich Robin

Tony Anemone wrote:

> Having read the recent postings on the difficulties of translating
> "non-fiction" into Russian, I was interested to see the following article
> from the 7 December 1999 issue (pg 79) of "Itogi:"  "Pervaia iarmarka
> intellektual'noi literatury non fiction." ("Non fiction" printed in Latin
> letters.)

--
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German and Slavic Dept.
The George Washington University
WASHINGTON, DC 20052
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From asrednew at netscape.net  Thu Jan  6 00:50:01 2000
From: asrednew at netscape.net (Steve Marder)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 19:50:01 EST
Subject: [Re: Non Fiction in Russian]
Message-ID: <WED.5.JAN.2000.195001.EST.SEELANGS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

> Richard Robin <rrobin at gwu.edu> wrote:
<...>

> SEELANGS gets lots of Kak po-russki riddles. I'll archive any attested finds
at
> the GW site: http://www.gwu.edu/~slavic/nrs. In that vein can anyone name
the
> page where Pelevin uses "message" in direct Cyrillic transliteration (minus
the
> silent e: MESSAG, I'm pretty sure) in Generation P? I'd like to snag that
one
> as well.

> -Rich Robin

Although I can't help with the Pelevin reference -- I haven't read "Generation
P" -- I might just mention that "messag" (m.) and "messaga" (f.) are not that
rare an occurrence on the Russian Internet in the computer slang meaning of
"e-mail (message)".

Steve Marder

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From AHRJJ at CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU  Thu Jan  6 02:40:12 2000
From: AHRJJ at CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (Alex Rudd)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 21:40:12 EST
Subject: SEELANGS Administrivia - The list has moved
Message-ID: <WED.5.JAN.2000.214012.EST.>

Dear SEELangers,

Apologies for the delay in moving the list.  The LISTSERV
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From Leaver at AOL.COM  Thu Jan  6 05:36:12 2000
From: Leaver at AOL.COM (Leaver at AOL.COM)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 00:36:12 EST
Subject: SEELANGS Digest - 4 Jan 2000 to 5 Jan 2000 (#2000-4)
Message-ID: <THU.6.JAN.2000.003612.EST.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Rich, Irene, Ben --

I did not mean to imply that any university program was likely to produce 
students at level 3 or 4 in writing (or in any skill for that matter)! 
However, not only university professors read this list, and the word, 
"advanced," unfortunately, means several things, depending on who is using 
it. Among the university crowd, it seems to mean one of two things: 1) the 
ACTFL level (i.e., Level 2), or 2) anyone in third year or above, regardless 
of proficiency level. Among the government crowd, advanced courses have 
traditionally referred to student input at Level 3 and output at somewhat 
higher. Current FSI "advanced" courses in Russian and French are Level 3 
intake with a goal of Level 4 graduate. DLI, as far as I know, has not taught 
an advanced course in years (although I was in one as a student in the 
1970s�ouch, I just dated myself!); however, the Marshall Center still does, I 
believe, with similar level expectations. At DLI, the "intermediate" course 
is Level 2 input and, I believe, Level 2+ output is the current goal, 
although in my experience, many, if not most, students do achieve Level 3. 
So, the differences (that exist or do not exist, depending on whose view is 
holding sway) between the ACTFL and ILR scales aside, we do have a 
terminology issue. 

I simply wanted to clarify the definition I was using as a basis for my 
comments, rather than to imply that universities can realistically deliver 
"advanced" graduates. 

And, of course, there is always the heritage question. One might well end up 
with an "advanced" student who does write at a Level 3.

Well, hopefully, I have now clarified and not muddied the waters more!

Betty Lou Leaver

In a message dated 1/5/00 7:02:12 PM, LISTSERV at CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU writes:

<< Most students in undergraduate Russian programs do not come near superior
> level writing (level 3 in the ILR scale) in a mere 4 years of language
> training.  This excludes from consideration those students who are heritage
> learners; their background varies considerably.
> >>

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From Mourka1 at AOL.COM  Thu Jan  6 14:25:42 2000
From: Mourka1 at AOL.COM (Mourka1 at AOL.COM)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 09:25:42 EST
Subject: RUSSIAN NEW YEARS MILLENIUM CELEBRATION
Message-ID: <THU.6.JAN.2000.092542.EST.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Seelangers:

I'm posting an announcement of our RUSSIAN MILLENIUM CELEBRATION which will
be held on Sunday, January 16th, starting at 3:00  at OTRADA, INC., 385 S.
Pascack Road, Spring Valley, New York.  (About one hour from New York City).
The celebration will include a concert starting at 3:00 featuring MOURKA AND
THE TSIGANE, with special guest GARY NOVA, performing Russian balalaika,
folk, romance and gypsy music.  The concert will be followed by a Russian
traditional buffet complete with pelymeni and golubtsi and other goodies.
After dinner, there will be dancing and merriment with MOURKA AND THE TSIGANE
AND GARY NOVA singing tangos and waltzes and rhumbas.  The cost is $25.00 per
person.

Come!  We will have a good time for sure!

For more information and for reservations (table space is limited) please
call 914 658 7102 or Email: mourka1 at aol.com

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From yoo.3 at OSU.EDU  Thu Jan  6 18:38:12 2000
From: yoo.3 at OSU.EDU (Syeng-Mann Yoo)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 13:38:12 -0500
Subject: Slavic Translator's Discussion List
Message-ID: <THU.6.JAN.2000.133812.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear list members.

I am sending this message to inform you of Slavic Translator's Discussion
List. If you are freelance translator/interpretor (from or to any of Slavic
languages), or if you want to communicate with other professional
translators or scholars about translation issues in any Slavic languages,
STDL is the right place to join.  The web site address is:
http://www.slavophilia.net/translate.htm
Please share the info with anyone who might be interested in. Thank you.

Sincerely

Syeng-Mann Yoo
STDL moderator

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From sipkadan at EROLS.COM  Thu Jan  6 21:49:23 2000
From: sipkadan at EROLS.COM (Danko Sipka)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:49:23 -0500
Subject: Belarussian and Albanian immersion programs
Message-ID: <THU.6.JAN.2000.164923.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Seelangers:
I am looking for any information about Belarussian and Albanian (both Gheg and
Tosk) immersion programs in Belarus and Albania/Kosova respectively, ideally a
semester at one of their universities.
Please, respond off-list to: sipkdana at erols.com
Sincerely,

Danko Sipka

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From eginzbur at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU  Thu Jan  6 23:35:57 2000
From: eginzbur at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (elizabeth ginzburg)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 17:35:57 -0600
Subject: Int. and Adv. Russian classes
Message-ID: <THU.6.JAN.2000.173557.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Marina: Vash adres poterian!
Napishite, pozhaluista, esche raz!
Liza ginzburg

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From Wambah at AOL.COM  Fri Jan  7 04:44:32 2000
From: Wambah at AOL.COM (Wambah at AOL.COM)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 23:44:32 EST
Subject: Documentary on Russian Sports
Message-ID: <THU.6.JAN.2000.234432.EST.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear All,
Would anyone happen to know of a general documentary on Russian or Soviet
sports, or one which chronicles the life or career of a particular sportsman
(hockey player, ice skater, etc).
I would be grateful for any suggestions.
Thank you.
Sincerely,

Laura Kline
Lecturer
Wayne State University

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From K.R.Hauge at EAST.UIO.NO  Fri Jan  7 09:37:59 2000
From: K.R.Hauge at EAST.UIO.NO (Kjetil Ra Hauge)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 10:37:59 +0100
Subject: SEELANGS Administrivia - The list has moved
In-Reply-To: <SEELANGS%2000010521563534@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
Message-ID: <FRI.7.JAN.2000.103759.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Congratulations from SEELANG's Nordic cousin NordicSlav, who has also
acquired a web interface these days. List administration at:

http://east-lists.uio.no/mailman/listinfo/nordicslav at east.uio.no

Instructions here are in English ("Mailman" package), but most traffic on
the list is in Nordic languages.

-- Kjetil Rå Hauge, U. of Oslo. Phone +47/22856710, fax +47/22854140
-- (this msg sent from home, ph. +47/67148424, fax +1/5084372444 [eFax, U.S.])

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From rrobin at GWU.EDU  Fri Jan  7 13:50:55 2000
From: rrobin at GWU.EDU (Richard Robin)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 08:50:55 -0500
Subject: Documentary on Russian Sports
Message-ID: <FRI.7.JAN.2000.085055.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Wambah at AOL.COM wrote:

> Dear All,
> Would anyone happen to know of a general documentary on Russian or Soviet
> sports, or one which chronicles the life or career of a particular sportsman
> (hockey player, ice skater, etc).
> I would be grateful for any suggestions.
>

The one documentary I know of is "Are You Going to the Ball?", described in the
our library's (George Washington U.) card catalog below. I highly recommend it.

_Are you going to the ball?_ [videorecording] / Citizen
Exchange Council (New York) with the assistance of The American-Soviet Film
Initiative (Moscow)
Publisher/Date: Oakland, CA : Video Project, 1987.
Series (Searchable by title or keyword): Glasnost film festival 12
Description: 1 videocassette (46 min.) : sd., col. ; 1/2 in.
Notes: "The glasnost film festival is [22 films in] a 12 videotape collection
representing
the first Soviet documentaries released in the 'glasnost era'." VHS format. In
Russian with English subtitles.
Summary:
Are you going to the ball?: An unprecedented look at the Soviet Union's
women's gymnastic team. Olga Korbut is featured. (28 min.) 1987.
--
Richard Robin - http://gwis2.circ.gwu.edu/~rrobin
German and Slavic Dept.
The George Washington University
WASHINGTON, DC 20052
Can read HTML mail.
Читаю по-русски в любой кодировке.
Chitayu po-russki v lyuboi kodirovke.

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From sekerina at RUCCS.RUTGERS.EDU  Fri Jan  7 13:49:58 2000
From: sekerina at RUCCS.RUTGERS.EDU (Irina A. Sekerina)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 08:49:58 -0500
Subject: RUSSIAN NEW YEARS MILLENIUM CELEBRATION
Message-ID: <FRI.7.JAN.2000.084958.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Hello,

Are the children allowed to attend the Russian New Year Party on Jan. 16th or is
it a adults only event?

Sincerely,
--
Irina Sekerina, Ph.D.
Rutgers University
Center for Cognitive Science
http://www.ruccs.rutgers.edu/~sekerina

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From kenneth.udut at SPCORP.COM  Fri Jan  7 17:53:53 2000
From: kenneth.udut at SPCORP.COM (Udut, Kenneth)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 12:53:53 -0500
Subject: List of known Russian Morphemes?
Message-ID: <FRI.7.JAN.2000.125353.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Is there a list of known Russian Morphemes
available online?

If not, does, perhaps, Slavica or another company
publish a list of Russian morphemes?

[there's about 300-400 morphemes in Russian, no?]

Thank you!

--
-- Kenneth.Udut at SPCORP.COM
--

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From eginzbur at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU  Fri Jan  7 19:03:04 2000
From: eginzbur at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (elizabeth ginzburg)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 13:03:04 -0600
Subject: List of known Russian Morphemes?
Message-ID: <FRI.7.JAN.2000.130304.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

i esche - net li u nee knig, podpisannyh konceptualistami?
pozhaluista, sdelai eto dlia menia!
L

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From ewb2 at CORNELL.EDU  Fri Jan  7 20:03:33 2000
From: ewb2 at CORNELL.EDU (Wayles Browne)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 15:03:33 -0500
Subject: List of known Russian Morphemes?
In-Reply-To: <97A32872DFFED211A62E0008C79168A4532658@kenmsg03b.us.schp.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.7.JAN.2000.150333.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

K.Udut:
>If not, does, perhaps, Slavica or another company
>publish a list of Russian morphemes?
>
>[there's about 300-400 morphemes in Russian, no?]

A lot more than that! Slavica has three good books: Gribble, A Russian
Root List (just the roots exceed 2000). Then you need to know about
prefixes that you put on before roots, suffixes that you put after roots,
and endings that you put on after the suffixes. There is something about
prefixes and suffixes in Gribble; more in Cubberley, Handbook of Russian
Affixes, and in Townsend, Russian Word Formation.
When you add them all up, it's quite a large number of morphemes. But
still it's worthwhile knowing about them, because each one shows up
over and over again in the formation of words.


>

Wayles Browne, Assoc. Prof. of Linguistics
Department of Linguistics
Morrill Hall 321, Cornell University
Ithaca, New York 14853, U.S.A.

tel. 607-255-0712 (o), 607-273-3009 (h)
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From holdeman.2 at OSU.EDU  Fri Jan  7 20:14:13 2000
From: holdeman.2 at OSU.EDU (Jeff Holdeman)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 15:14:13 -0500
Subject: List of known Russian Morphemes?
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From kenneth.udut at SPCORP.COM  Fri Jan  7 20:17:19 2000
From: kenneth.udut at SPCORP.COM (Udut, Kenneth)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 15:17:19 -0500
Subject: List of known Russian Morphemes?
Message-ID: <FRI.7.JAN.2000.151719.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

You've reminded me that I should update my root list book -
I have a very nice, but old one from 1959 (with words that everybody
tells me are obsolete, although the roots are likely still valid :) )

I'm still learning Russian, but since I'm used to processing large
amounts of raw data, categorizing, graphing and charting and putting
together reports (it's the kind of stuff I do, and actually enjoy :) ),
long lists of similar data (such as lists of prefixes, then lists
of affixes, etc) should be interesting to process, change the presentation
of it (perhaps in flow-chart format - something I've been doing on and
off with those little declension charts in the back of Russian textbooks),
color coding, font coding, etc...  all for my own usage, of course -
sometimes
I'll see a word 100 or so times in a text, and suddenly, the meaning locks
into place.

Thanks for the tips on the books!  I will login to slavica.com
when I get home tonight and check them out!

[and here I was thinking there were a few hundred morphemes <grin> )

It is interesting how it's easier (for me, at least) to identify
a word by reading it aloud in my head (saying it aloud takes too long),
quickly noting if there are any familiar prefix or affix or at the very
least, the 'main' word, scanning to the left and right to see if
there is a matching adjective or noun, preposition or preposition
hiding there to give me a little more of a clue to context...  this is
so much easier and faster (takes 1/2 a second really, although my
'internal database' of prefixes/affixes/etc to scan for is very small),
than trying to piece a word together from scratch.

Perhaps Russian Word Formation will clue me in on these things!

Thanks again!

--
-- Kenneth.Udut at SPCORP.COM
--


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|Sent: Friday, January 07, 2000 3:04 PM
|To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
|Subject: Re: List of known Russian Morphemes?
|
|
|K.Udut:
|>If not, does, perhaps, Slavica or another company
|>publish a list of Russian morphemes?
|>
|>[there's about 300-400 morphemes in Russian, no?]
|
|A lot more than that! Slavica has three good books: Gribble, A Russian
|Root List (just the roots exceed 2000). Then you need to know about
|prefixes that you put on before roots, suffixes that you put
|after roots,
|and endings that you put on after the suffixes. There is
|something about
|prefixes and suffixes in Gribble; more in Cubberley, Handbook
|of Russian
|Affixes, and in Townsend, Russian Word Formation.
|When you add them all up, it's quite a large number of morphemes. But
|still it's worthwhile knowing about them, because each one shows up
|over and over again in the formation of words.
|
|
|>
|
|Wayles Browne, Assoc. Prof. of Linguistics
|Department of Linguistics
|Morrill Hall 321, Cornell University
|Ithaca, New York 14853, U.S.A.
|
|tel. 607-255-0712 (o), 607-273-3009 (h)
|fax 607-255-2044 (write FOR W. BROWNE)
|e-mail ewb2 at cornell.edu
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From dpbrowne+ at PITT.EDU  Sat Jan  8 16:44:32 2000
From: dpbrowne+ at PITT.EDU (Devin P Browne)
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 11:44:32 -0500
Subject: FAMOUS BILINGUALS - page update - what do you think?
Message-ID: <SAT.8.JAN.2000.114432.0500.DPBROWNE@PITT.EDU>

Hi all - Thanks for the suggestions and comments on the bilingual page.  I
changed a few things, including the opening remarks to make it more
general, not just geared toward Pittsburgh Public Schools (this may or may
not change back yet - I'm not sure).  I've added a link to a reverse index
as well, so you can check out bilingual people by language.  And yes, I've
correct Spiro Agnew's spelling!!  :-)

I'd like to include some remarks about the number of people people in the
world who are bi/multilingual in comparison to the US, but that will have
to wait until I have time to dig up some stats.  Rick Donato suggested I
check CAL's web site - any other suggestions?

Also, rumor has it the pope speaks quite a few languages...anyone out
there know exactly which languages?

Thanks again for your time!

Devin

Devin P Browne
dpbrowne+ at pitt.edu

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From jglad at WAM.UMD.EDU  Sat Jan  8 16:26:11 2000
From: jglad at WAM.UMD.EDU (John Glad)
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 12:26:11 -0400
Subject: ANY ADVICE?
Message-ID: <SAT.8.JAN.2000.122611.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

    Would anyone have any ideas for an American 18 year-old in the way
of an internship in Russia (something other than taking classes). He is
already about a 2+ in Russian. Money not important, but housing would be
a strong plus. Any suggestions welcome. Thanks in advance.

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From mllemily at ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU  Sat Jan  8 13:56:46 2000
From: mllemily at ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU (Emily Tall)
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:56:46 +0000
Subject: List of known Russian Morphemes?
Message-ID: <SAT.8.JAN.2000.135646.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I believe a predecessor of the books mentioned below is Catherine
Volkonskaya's "Russian Root List" (I may have got the title wrong) which used
to be published by Columbia University Press way back when in the 60s. Emily
Tall

Wayles Browne wrote:

> K.Udut:
> >If not, does, perhaps, Slavica or another company
> >publish a list of Russian morphemes?
> >
> >[there's about 300-400 morphemes in Russian, no?]
>
> A lot more than that! Slavica has three good books: Gribble, A Russian
> Root List (just the roots exceed 2000). Then you need to know about
> prefixes that you put on before roots, suffixes that you put after roots,
> and endings that you put on after the suffixes. There is something about
> prefixes and suffixes in Gribble; more in Cubberley, Handbook of Russian
> Affixes, and in Townsend, Russian Word Formation.
> When you add them all up, it's quite a large number of morphemes. But
> still it's worthwhile knowing about them, because each one shows up
> over and over again in the formation of words.
>
> >
>
> Wayles Browne, Assoc. Prof. of Linguistics
> Department of Linguistics
> Morrill Hall 321, Cornell University
> Ithaca, New York 14853, U.S.A.
>
> tel. 607-255-0712 (o), 607-273-3009 (h)
> fax 607-255-2044 (write FOR W. BROWNE)
> e-mail ewb2 at cornell.edu
>
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From dpbrowne+ at PITT.EDU  Sat Jan  8 19:00:10 2000
From: dpbrowne+ at PITT.EDU (Devin P Browne)
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:00:10 -0500
Subject: FAMOUS BILINGUALS - page update - what do you think? (2)
Message-ID: <SAT.8.JAN.2000.140010.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

http://www.pitt.edu/~dpbrowne/bilingual/

Hi all - Thanks for the suggestions and comments on the bilingual page.  I
changed a few things, including the opening remarks to make it more
general, not just geared toward Pittsburgh Public Schools (this may or may
not change back yet - I'm not sure).  I've added a link to a reverse index
as well, so you can check out bilingual people by language.  And yes, I've
correct Spiro Agnew's spelling!!  :-)

I'd like to include some remarks about the number of people people in the
world who are bi/multilingual in comparison to the US, but that will have
to wait until I have time to dig up some stats.  Rick Donato suggested I
check CAL's web site - any other suggestions?

Also, rumor has it the pope speaks quite a few languages...anyone out
there know exactly which languages?

Thanks again for your time!

Devin

Devin P Browne
dpbrowne+ at pitt.edu

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From a.jameson at DIAL.PIPEX.COM  Sat Jan  8 19:41:08 2000
From: a.jameson at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Andrew Jameson)
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 19:41:08 -0000
Subject: List of known Russian Morphemes?
Message-ID: <SAT.8.JAN.2000.194108.0000.>

I would offer a word of caution on the Volkonsky and
Poltoratsky book (Handbook of Russian Roots, Columbia UP
69, maybe later edns.). Much work undoubtedly went into it
and the authors are to be praised for this, but the book lacks
important information on the conditioned alternants of roots
and cannot be said to give the whole picture.
There is also a book still available as a reprint by George Z
Patrick (Roots of the Russian Language), which dates back a
long way and which I would also advise against because of the
inaccuracies it contains. Unbegaun describes it as "riddled with
elementary mistakes".
Andrew Jameson
Chair, Russian Committee, ALL
Languages and Professional Development
1 Brook Street, Lancaster LA1 1SL UK
Tel: 01524 32371  (+44 1524 32371)

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From: Emily Tall <mllemily at ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU>
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: Re: List of known Russian Morphemes?
Date: 08 January 2000 13:56

I believe a predecessor of the books mentioned below is Catherine
Volkonskaya's "Russian Root List" (I may have got the title wrong) which used
to be published by Columbia University Press way back when in the 60s. Emily
Tall

Wayles Browne wrote:

> K.Udut:
> >If not, does, perhaps, Slavica or another company
> >publish a list of Russian morphemes?
> >
> >[there's about 300-400 morphemes in Russian, no?]
>
> A lot more than that! Slavica has three good books: Gribble, A Russian
> Root List (just the roots exceed 2000). Then you need to know about
> prefixes that you put on before roots, suffixes that you put after roots,
> and endings that you put on after the suffixes. There is something about
> prefixes and suffixes in Gribble; more in Cubberley, Handbook of Russian
> Affixes, and in Townsend, Russian Word Formation.
> When you add them all up, it's quite a large number of morphemes. But
> still it's worthwhile knowing about them, because each one shows up
> over and over again in the formation of words.
>
> >
>
> Wayles Browne, Assoc. Prof. of Linguistics
> Department of Linguistics
> Morrill Hall 321, Cornell University
> Ithaca, New York 14853, U.S.A.
>
> tel. 607-255-0712 (o), 607-273-3009 (h)
> fax 607-255-2044 (write FOR W. BROWNE)
> e-mail ewb2 at cornell.edu
>
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From jowen at BRYNMAWR.EDU  Mon Jan 10 04:48:14 2000
From: jowen at BRYNMAWR.EDU (Jeanette Owen)
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 20:48:14 -0800
Subject: Soviet sports documentary
Message-ID: <SUN.9.JAN.2000.204814.0800.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

PBS made a series called "The Red Files." The second documentary in the
series, "The Soviet Sports Machine," has interviews with Anatoly Firsov and
Alexandr Yakushev about the first Red Army hockey team, the victory over
the Canadians at the 1956 Olympics, and the 1972  8-game series against
Canadian NHL players.  Larissa Latynina (18 gold medals), Natasha
Kuchinskaya and Olga Korbut talk about gymnastics and the role of the
individual athlete in the Soviet system, and long jump stars Ralph Boston
(US) and Igor Ter-Ovanesyan reminisce about the 1960 Olympics in Rome and
how their friendship grew over the years.

pbs.org should have further info on the subject, and the tel. number for
ordering is:    1-800-play pbs.



__________________
Jeanette Owen
Dept. of Modern Languages and Literatures
Swarthmore College
500 College Avenue
Swarthmore, PA 19081-1397
(610) 328-8147
jowen1 at swarthmore.edu

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From ursula.doleschal at WU-WIEN.AC.AT  Mon Jan 10 11:10:57 2000
From: ursula.doleschal at WU-WIEN.AC.AT (Ursula Doleschal)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 12:10:57 +0100
Subject: glokaja kuzdra
Message-ID: <MON.10.JAN.2000.121057.0100.URSULA.DOLESCHAL@WUWIEN.AC.AT>

Could anyone please help me with the following informations:
1) the complete citation of the Russian nonsense-word sentence "glokaja kuzdra ...budlanula bokrenka"
2) an equivalent of such a sentence in Polish AND Czech (cf. German: Piroten karulieren elatisch)
3) If there are morpheme and/or word-formational dictionaries for Polish and Czech (as Kuznetsova/Efremova Slovar morfem or Tichonov Slovoobrazovatelnyj slovar).

I s Novym Godom!

Dr. Ursula Doleschal
Inst. f. Slawische Sprachen, WU Wien
Rossauer Laende 23, A-1090 Wien
Tel.: ++43-1-31336-4115, Fax: 744

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From glenw at SULMAIL.STANFORD.EDU  Mon Jan 10 11:32:40 2000
From: glenw at SULMAIL.STANFORD.EDU (Glen Worthey)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 03:32:40 -0800
Subject: Tolstoy help?
Message-ID: <MON.10.JAN.2000.033240.0800.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I'm looking for something I recall having seen, but now have somehow
lost: a facsimile of a title page from Tolstoy's journal "Iasnaia
Poliana," displaying the epigraph from Goethe, "Du glaubst zu schieben
und [du] wirst geschoben" (Thomas Winner [1] omits the second "du,"
though it appears in Goethe).  The Jubilee PSS (v.8) has a facsimile
of the  journal's cover, which sports no Goethe; I'm looking for the
title page, which I believe I saw in some volume of Tolstoyana
(memoirs? essays? selections?), probably of Soviet provenance.  Has
any of you stumbled across it?

As far as I can tell (though I would be pleased to be wrong here!),
Tolstoy's journal is not available, even on microfilm, anywhere in the
U.S.  (The PSS includes all of Tolstoy's writings from the journal,
and Professor Winner [2] published reprints of all the original
children's writings from it; but the complete text itself seems to be
nowhere close to home.)  If anyone knows otherwise, please tell!

Thanks,

Glen Worthey
Berkeley/Stanford


[1] "'Glaubst zu schieben und wirst geschoben': Some observations
about Tolstoj's experiments with children's writing."  Slavic poetics:
Essays in honor of Kiril Taranovsky, 1973, 507-524.

[2] Tvorcheskie raboty uchenikov Tolstogo v Yasnoi Polyane.  Ed. and
intro. Thomas G. Winner.  Brown Univ. Slavic Reprint X, 1974.

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From c0654038 at TECHST02.TECHNION.AC.IL  Mon Jan 10 11:58:58 2000
From: c0654038 at TECHST02.TECHNION.AC.IL (Alexey I. Fuchs)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:58:58 +0200
Subject: glokaja kuzdra
In-Reply-To: <009801bf5b5b$60480f30$40acd089@wuwien.ac.at>
Message-ID: <MON.10.JAN.2000.135858.0200.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Please answer publicly, on the list, for I ought to know that too. I've
been hearing this sentence since I was a child. I believe it goes like
that:
"Glokaya kuzdra shteko budlanula bokra i kurdyachit bokrenka."

I am not so sure. Please, if anybody knows, give also the source (who was
the famous academic) and references.


                                                                  _
                                                                A.F.

On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Ursula Doleschal wrote:

> Could anyone please help me with the following informations:
> 1) the complete citation of the Russian nonsense-word sentence "glokaja kuzdra ...budlanula bokrenka"
> 2) an equivalent of such a sentence in Polish AND Czech (cf. German: Piroten karulieren elatisch)
> 3) If there are morpheme and/or word-formational dictionaries for Polish and Czech (as Kuznetsova/Efremova Slovar morfem or Tichonov Slovoobrazovatelnyj slovar).
>
> I s Novym Godom!
>
> Dr. Ursula Doleschal
> Inst. f. Slawische Sprachen, WU Wien
> Rossauer Laende 23, A-1090 Wien
> Tel.: ++43-1-31336-4115, Fax: 744
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From ursula.doleschal at WU-WIEN.AC.AT  Mon Jan 10 12:07:39 2000
From: ursula.doleschal at WU-WIEN.AC.AT (Ursula Doleschal)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:07:39 +0100
Subject: Fw: glokaja kuzdra
Message-ID: <MON.10.JAN.2000.130739.0100.URSULA.DOLESCHAL@WUWIEN.AC.AT>

----- Original Message -----
From: Danko Sipka <sipkadan at erols.com>
To: Ursula Doleschal <ursula.doleschal at wu-wien.ac.at>
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: glokaja kuzdra


> > 1) the complete citation of the Russian nonsense-word sentence "glokaja
kuzdra ...budlanula bokrenka"
> >
>
> Glokaja kuzdra `steko budlanula bokra i kudrja`cit bokrenka.
>
> The sentence is from LV Scerba's lectures. One of the lectures of the
Russian course from the book I unfortunately have in Poznan describes the
whole sceene. The
> text is called The algebra of language.
>
> Best,
>
> Danko Sipka
>
>

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From Gottscha at ACTR.ORG  Mon Jan 10 13:47:44 2000
From: Gottscha at ACTR.ORG (Kate Gottschall)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 08:47:44 -0500
Subject: ANY ADVICE?
Message-ID: <MON.10.JAN.2000.084744.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Please send your resume to me so I can forward to our field offices in Russia for their consideration.  What period of time is the individual available for the internship?  Please respond by email or fax: 202-872-9178.  Thanks.


Kate M. Gottschall
Human Resources Director
American Councils for International Education
1776 Massachusetts Avenue, N.W., Suite 700
Washington, DC  20036
202-833-7522
fax:  202-872-9178
www.actr.org

>>> John Glad <jglad at WAM.UMD.EDU> 01/08/00 11:26AM >>>
    Would anyone have any ideas for an American 18 year-old in the way
of an internship in Russia (something other than taking classes). He is
already about a 2+ in Russian. Money not important, but housing would be
a strong plus. Any suggestions welcome. Thanks in advance.

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From ursula.doleschal at WU-WIEN.AC.AT  Mon Jan 10 15:35:25 2000
From: ursula.doleschal at WU-WIEN.AC.AT (Ursula Doleschal)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:35:25 +0100
Subject: Int. and Adv. Russian classes
Message-ID: <MON.10.JAN.2000.163525.0100.URSULA.DOLESCHAL@WUWIEN.AC.AT>

There is an old book which I found very helpful for my course preparing to
Academic writing in Russian, but I think it might be useful for other
genres, too: Dobrovol'skaja, V.V. 1977. Prakticheskoe posobie po razvitiju
navykov pis'mennoj rechi, Moskva.

Dr. Ursula Doleschal
Inst. f. Slawische Sprachen, WU Wien
Rossauer Laende 23, A-1090 Wien
Tel.: ++43-1-31336-4115, Fax: 744
----- Original Message -----
From: frazier melissa <mfrazier at mail.slc.edu>
To: <SEELANGS at CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2000 4:45 PM
Subject: Int. and Adv. Russian classes


> Dear Seelangers,
>
> Second:  I'm curious as to what people use to teach writing skills to
> advanced Russian students, both native English-speakers who want a more
> sophisticated writing style and heritage learners who can't tell the
> difference between English and Russian syntax.  Is there a textbook out
> there that focusses on writing skills?  I only know occasional pages in
> textbooks offering lists of useful transitions, etc.
>
> Any ideas would be much appreciated.  Please respond to me off-line at
> mfrazier at mail.slc.edu.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Melissa Frazier
>
>
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From kenneth.udut at SPCORP.COM  Mon Jan 10 15:41:18 2000
From: kenneth.udut at SPCORP.COM (Udut, Kenneth)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 10:41:18 -0500
Subject: List of known Russian Morphemes?
Message-ID: <MON.10.JAN.2000.104118.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Hello Andrew!

This one that you mention (by George Z Patrick), is the text
that I had been using, (1959, a reprint even *then* from
a previous text if I remember right) before several folks
mentioned archaic words in it.  That's one of the things that put me on the
quest for some more modern texts on roots, prefixes,
suffixes - and from the overwhelming responses,

--
-- Kenneth.Udut at SPCORP.COM
--


|-----Original Message-----
|From: Andrew Jameson [mailto:a.jameson at DIAL.PIPEX.COM]
[...]
|There is also a book still available as a reprint by George Z
|Patrick (Roots of the Russian Language), which dates back a
|long way and which I would also advise against because of the
|inaccuracies it contains. Unbegaun describes it as "riddled with
|elementary mistakes".
|Andrew Jameson

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From ltaxman at UCSJ.COM  Mon Jan 10 15:54:46 2000
From: ltaxman at UCSJ.COM (Lindsey Taxman)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 10:54:46 -0500
Subject: ANY ADVICE?
In-Reply-To: <s8799cbb.089@mail.actr.org>
Message-ID: <MON.10.JAN.2000.105446.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

The Union of Councils for Soviet Jews has bureaus and human rights monitors
throughout Russia.  If human rights issues are of interest to your student,
please send the resume to our DC office for us to review.  For more
information, please contact Sarah Manaker at 202 775 9770 x16.

Resumes may be sent to:

Sarah Manaker
Office Manager
1819 H Street NW Suite 230
Washington, DC 20006

or

smanaker at ucsj.com

or

(202) 775 - 9776 (fax)

Lindsey Paige Taxman
National Outreach Director
ltaxman at ucsj.com

>>>> John Glad <jglad at WAM.UMD.EDU> 01/08/00 11:26AM >>>
>    Would anyone have any ideas for an American 18 year-old in the way
>of an internship in Russia (something other than taking classes). He is
>already about a 2+ in Russian. Money not important, but housing would be
>a strong plus. Any suggestions welcome. Thanks in advance.







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From holmsted at FAS.HARVARD.EDU  Mon Jan 10 15:06:20 2000
From: holmsted at FAS.HARVARD.EDU (Hugh M. Olmsted)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 11:06:20 -0400
Subject: List of known Russian Morphemes?
Message-ID: <MON.10.JAN.2000.110620.0400.>

Dear Colleagues,

Speaking of root lists and the 60's, I thought I'd share a bit of history.

When Alex Lipson, Chuck Gribble and I were all in Cambridge in the early
sixties, we devised a fairly ambitious plan to come up with a root list for
serious pedagogical work at the intermediate-to-advanced level of Russian
study, grading into teaching historical and comparative Slavic linguistics.
Alex was to provide the introduction and if memory ne podvodit some
exercises, and Chuck and I the root list proper.  Chuck already had an early
version he was using at Brandeis, and it was to provide the kernel around
which the further work was to develop.

Job Geography took us to various places--Alex and I went to Cornell, Chuck
to Indiana--and one way or another the great joint project never was brought
off.  Chuck and I both kept working on our versions of enriched rootlists,
however, and Chuck, as the one with the publishing house (Slavica), did
issue two editions of his good rootlist, which has become deservedly well
known.

For my part, I also kept developing my version, which I used with
generations of students at Cornell; it included or was accompanied by my own
effort at a prefix list, a systematic introduction, and exercises.  Alex
also used it in his classes, endorsed it, and made helpful suggestions.

Since this version has remained less known than the published Slavica
editions, I'll mention a few of its features:

1. The entries, in Cyrillic, were supposed morphophonemic base forms, with
all native roots taken as ending in Consonants (sonorants or prime
obstruents: no sh/zh/ch/shch or their equivalents--the latter were taken as
produced by derivational and inflectional rules).

2. The depth of historical/morphophonemic derivation did not go deeper than
the forms indicated in point 1).  VRAT and VOROT, for example, were not
taken from a putative *VORT, but entered as coordinate related forms with
appropriate marking of register / origin (OCS / Russian).

3. It contained a fairly full-blown system of primary versus secondary roots
(of the sort KAZ --> SKAZ) with the information entered under both members
of the pair.  In numerous cases the non-primary forms were not just
secondary, but tertiary, quaternary, and so on.  In some instances the
relationship was more or less transparent synchronically; in others, far
from it (hence the gradation into historical use) -- (of the type VERT -->
VERST or VREMEN)

4. In other cases the relation was one not of parent to child but of sibling
to sibling, also represented by a system of coordination in the list (cf.
the VRAT:VOROT:VERT, or PUST:PUSK).  Here, too, the relationship was
indicated under both (all) members of the pair (group).

5. A systematic attempt was made to give English-language equivalent
base-forms, largely of Latin and Greek origin, that "work" in parallel
fashion in English, whether as a result of outright calquing historically
(e.g. in Greek to Latin on the one hand / Greek to OCS to Russian, on the
other) or as the result of a sort of natural / typological parallelism.
Example: the entry STOI (in Cyrillic, with i kratkoe) would in its English
definition include the root -SIST- (as in consist [sostoiat'], insist
[nastoiat'/-ivai+], resist [otstoiat'/-ivai+], etc.).

This old list has lain unused now for many years.  It doubtless contains all
sorts of fossile errors and omissions.  But if after all it were of interest
to anyone to take a look at, I would be happy to send out a copy for the
cost of reproduction.

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From jglad at WAM.UMD.EDU  Mon Jan 10 17:09:01 2000
From: jglad at WAM.UMD.EDU (John Glad)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:09:01 -0400
Subject: ANY ADVICE?
Message-ID: <MON.10.JAN.2000.130901.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Mr. Taxman,
    Many thanks for the tip. My son Aaron Pearce will definitely look
into it. As the chief translator of the Black Book for Holocaust Library
and the future translator of the Unknow Black Book for the Holocaust
Museum, I would be pleased if something like this could be arranged.
    PS It is with difficulty that I refrain from making IRS jokes about
your surname, but people are constantly kidding me about mine, so I know
when to keep my mouth shut.

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From jglad at WAM.UMD.EDU  Mon Jan 10 17:23:02 2000
From: jglad at WAM.UMD.EDU (John Glad)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:23:02 -0400
Subject: ANY ADVICE?
Message-ID: <MON.10.JAN.2000.132302.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Ms. Gottschall,
    It is my son, Aaron Pearce, who is interested in the internship. He
will graduate from high school at the end of the spring semester. He has
already spent 6 months in Leningrad studying Russian, and can more or
less keep up his end of the conversation in Russian already. He really
needs a break from school before enrolling in the university, and this
would be a great experience for him. Many thanks  for your assistance.
John Glad

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From jglad at WAM.UMD.EDU  Mon Jan 10 18:12:15 2000
From: jglad at WAM.UMD.EDU (John Glad)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:12:15 -0400
Subject: List of known Russian Morphemes?
Message-ID: <MON.10.JAN.2000.141215.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Hey, Emily! Is you still out thare? What's up?
Kisses,
(a retired) John

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From elenapol at UKIM.EDU.MK  Mon Jan 10 19:27:24 2000
From: elenapol at UKIM.EDU.MK (Paul Foster)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 20:27:24 +0100
Subject: Zhalna vest
Message-ID: <MON.10.JAN.2000.202724.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I am sorry to announce that on 9 January 2000 in Skopje, Macedonia, Olivera
Jashar-Nasteva, long-time professor in the Department of Macedonian and
South Slavic Languages at the University "Kiril i Metodij" in Skopje and
member of the Macedonian Academy of Sciences and Arts passed away.

A memorial service is planned for 11 January at the Academy.  Condolences
may be sent to dejan at manu.edu.mk


Paul Foster

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From rar at SLAVIC.UMASS.EDU  Mon Jan 10 20:09:17 2000
From: rar at SLAVIC.UMASS.EDU (Robert A. Rothstein)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 15:09:17 -0500
Subject: glokaja kuzdra
Message-ID: <MON.10.JAN.2000.150917.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Shcherba's famous sentence is "Glo'kaia kuzdra shte'ko budlanu'la bo'kra
i kudria'chit bokre"nka."  This is the version cited (complete with
accent marks as reproduced here) by Lev Vasil'evich Uspenskii in the
section "Glokaia kuzdra" of Chapter 6 (also called "Glokaia kuzdra") of
his book _Slova o slovakh_. The book was originally published in 1954;
the edition that I have in front of me was published by "Detskaia
literatura" in Leningrad in 1971 (in a combined edition with Uspenskii's
_Pochemu ne inache?_).  In this section Uspenskii tells how Shcherba
dictated the sentence to one of his students on the first day of his
"Introduction to Linguistics" and asked the student to analyze the
sentence.  This was in 1925 in the Institut istorii iskusstv in
Leningrad.
    According to K. V. Dushenko, the author of _Slovar' sovremennykh
tsitat_ (Moscow, 1997), p. 412, Uspenskii's 1954 citation of "Glokaia
kuzdra..." was the first time it ever appeared in print.  Dushenko also
cites an oral account by the writer Iraklii Andronikov to the effect
that Shcherba first version was "Kudmataia bokra shteko budlanula
tukasten'kogo bokrenochka."

                                                            Bob
Rothstein

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From wjcomer at UKANS.EDU  Mon Jan 10 20:26:59 2000
From: wjcomer at UKANS.EDU (William J. Comer)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:26:59 -0600
Subject: AATSEEL 2000 Conference: Call for Papers
Message-ID: <MON.10.JAN.2000.142659.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Colleagues:
The Call for Papers for the AATSEEL 2000 Conference (Washington, DC,
December 28-30, 2000) will appear in the February AATSEEL Newsletter.  If
you would like to proposal a panel, or if you would like to chair one of
the regularly scheduled panels, please contact one of the Program Committee
Division Heads listed below as soon as possible.

Ideally, a person proposing a panel, or agreeing to chair one, will
actively recruit participants to submit abstracts for that panel for either
the April or August deadlines.

Literature

Professor Malynne Sternstein
Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures
University of Chicago
Foster Hall 405
1130 East 59th Street
Chicago, IL 60637
Phone: 773-834-0894 (office), 773-702-8033 (department)
Fax: 773-702-7030
Email: msternst at midway.uchicago.edu

Methodology and Pedagogy

Professor William J. Comer
Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures
Wescoe Hall 2134
University of Kansas
Lawrence, KS 66045
Phone: 785-864-3313
Fax: 785-864-4298
Email: wjcomer at ukans.edu


Linguistics

Alla Nedashkivska, Assistant Professor
200 Arts Building
Department of Modern Languages and Cultural Studies: Germanic, Romance, Slavic
University of Alberta
Edmonton, Alberta T6G 2E6 Canada
Email: alla.nedashkivska at ualberta.ca
Phone: 780-492-3498
Fax: 780-492-9106

Sincerely,

William Comer
AATSEEL Program Committee


William J. Comer
Director, Ermal Garinger Academic Resource Center
Associate Professor, Slavic Languages and Literatures
University of Kansas
Lawrence, KS  66045
voice: 785-864-4701
fax: 785-864-4298
e-mail: wjcomer at ukans.edu

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From roman at ADMIN.UT.EE  Mon Jan 10 20:25:35 2000
From: roman at ADMIN.UT.EE (R_L)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:25:35 +0200
Subject: Georgij Aleksandrovich Lesskis (19.12.1918 - 10.01.2000)
In-Reply-To: <200001100148.DAA08929@kadri.ut.ee>
Message-ID: <MON.10.JAN.2000.222535.0200.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Georgij Aleksandrovich Lesskis
                                      (19.12.1918 - 10.01.2000)
Na 82 godu zhizni skonchalsya moskovskij literaturoved i lingvist G.A.
Lesskis, avtor monografij o Pushkine, Tolstom, Bulgakove, Iskandere, odin
iz osnovatelej moskovskogo muzeya Pushkina, uchastnik pervyx Letnix shkol v
Ka"a"riku.

(http://www.ruthenia.ru/ruth/hronika.html)
R_L

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From patzody at NWU.EDU  Tue Jan 11 12:37:03 2000
From: patzody at NWU.EDU (Patricia L. Zody)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 13:37:03 +0100
Subject: IMAC problem
Message-ID: <TUE.11.JAN.2000.133703.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Seelangers,

If you could help with the problem
described below, I would be very grateful.

Thank you, Pat Zody

********************

The problem is that after moving documents and fronts from a PowerMac 7200
to a new iMac, some of the fonts appear correctly on the screen but do not
print properly on a PostScript laser printer.

The original computer (PowerMac 7200/120 if memory serves) was running
system 8.0, LaserWriter driver 8.4.3 and MS Word 6.0.1.  The fonts that
were transferred were bitmap fonts, there were no printer components for
these fonts.  The new computer is an iMac 350Mhz with 128Mb ram,
LaserWriter 8.4.3 (downgraded from 8.7)  running MS Office 98 and trying to
print to any number of postscript laserwriters.  When I was setting up the
iMac I had installed the Russian and other Slavic sounding language kits
from System 9.  However the Prof indicated that this would change how she
worked and the keyboard mapping of characters and asked me to remove the
language kits.  I removed them using the custom remove option of the OS 9
installer.  I wouldn't expect that any of the problems were caused by this
or am I wrong?

One of the more interesting caveats that I encountered was that if I copy
text from one of the troubled documents and paste it into another
application, say Stickies, the text no longer appears on screen as it did
while the text was in word.  It has minor character variations compared to
the characters looking correct in Word.  However, the variations do not
match what is printed from Word.  Additionally, if I print the text from
Stickies the printout has character changes when compared to the text that
is shown in Stickies and is different from the text printed from Word.

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From beyer at JAGUAR.MIDDLEBURY.EDU  Tue Jan 11 23:57:09 2000
From: beyer at JAGUAR.MIDDLEBURY.EDU (Beyer, Tom)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:57:09 -0500
Subject: IMAC problem
Message-ID: <TUE.11.JAN.2000.185709.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I think the problem is with Word and Office 98, I have a Russian text that
appears fine and prints okay and transfers between programs if opened with
Word 5.1. But in Office 98 the Russian letter "e" literally disappears from
the screen. Try copying you old word program to the Imac and using it for
now.

Anyone else had problems with Office 98 for the MAC?

> ----------
> From:         Patricia L. Zody
> Reply To:     Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
> Sent:         Tuesday, January 11, 2000 7:37 AM
> To:   SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
> Subject:      IMAC problem
>
> Dear Seelangers,
>
> If you could help with the problem
> described below, I would be very grateful.
>
> Thank you, Pat Zody
>
> ********************
>
> The problem is that after moving documents and fronts from a PowerMac 7200
> to a new iMac, some of the fonts appear correctly on the screen but do not
> print properly on a PostScript laser printer.
>
> The original computer (PowerMac 7200/120 if memory serves) was running
> system 8.0, LaserWriter driver 8.4.3 and MS Word 6.0.1.  The fonts that
> were transferred were bitmap fonts, there were no printer components for
> these fonts.  The new computer is an iMac 350Mhz with 128Mb ram,
> LaserWriter 8.4.3 (downgraded from 8.7)  running MS Office 98 and trying
> to
> print to any number of postscript laserwriters.  When I was setting up the
> iMac I had installed the Russian and other Slavic sounding language kits
> from System 9.  However the Prof indicated that this would change how she
> worked and the keyboard mapping of characters and asked me to remove the
> language kits.  I removed them using the custom remove option of the OS 9
> installer.  I wouldn't expect that any of the problems were caused by this
> or am I wrong?
>
> One of the more interesting caveats that I encountered was that if I copy
> text from one of the troubled documents and paste it into another
> application, say Stickies, the text no longer appears on screen as it did
> while the text was in word.  It has minor character variations compared to
> the characters looking correct in Word.  However, the variations do not
> match what is printed from Word.  Additionally, if I print the text from
> Stickies the printout has character changes when compared to the text that
> is shown in Stickies and is different from the text printed from Word.
>
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From tsutsumi at CC.KANAGAWA-U.AC.JP  Wed Jan 12 08:29:14 2000
From: tsutsumi at CC.KANAGAWA-U.AC.JP (M. Tsutsumi)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 17:29:14 +0900
Subject: What is kukumaria?
Message-ID: <WED.12.JAN.2000.172914.0900.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Seelangers,

    What is kukumaria ( or kukumarija )? My colleague said these
Cyrillic letters was on a can.


    Masanori TSUTSUMI
    Kanagawa University
    Yokohama, Japan

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From chaput at FAS.HARVARD.EDU  Wed Jan 12 13:31:07 2000
From: chaput at FAS.HARVARD.EDU (Patricia Chaput)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 08:31:07 -0500
Subject: IMAC problem
In-Reply-To: <A72E340C1CE4D011947A00805F312A83044BBCF1@jaguar.middlebury.edu>
Message-ID: <WED.12.JAN.2000.083107.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Several of us in our department have had problems.  Some problems we've
managed to fix (that is, with technical assistance) and some remain.  The
only safe route for us has been to stick with Word 5.1.  Pat Chaput

******************************************
Patricia R. Chaput
Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures
Barker Center, 12 Quincy St.
Harvard University
Cambridge, Ma.  02138
Dept. tel:  617-495-4065; fax:  617-496-4466
******************************************

On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, Beyer, Tom wrote:

> I think the problem is with Word and Office 98, I have a Russian text that
> appears fine and prints okay and transfers between programs if opened with
> Word 5.1. But in Office 98 the Russian letter "e" literally disappears from
> the screen. Try copying you old word program to the Imac and using it for
> now.
>
> Anyone else had problems with Office 98 for the MAC?
>
> > ----------
> > From:         Patricia L. Zody
> > Reply To:     Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
> > Sent:         Tuesday, January 11, 2000 7:37 AM
> > To:   SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
> > Subject:      IMAC problem
> >
> > Dear Seelangers,
> >
> > If you could help with the problem
> > described below, I would be very grateful.
> >
> > Thank you, Pat Zody
> >
> > ********************
> >
> > The problem is that after moving documents and fronts from a PowerMac 7200
> > to a new iMac, some of the fonts appear correctly on the screen but do not
> > print properly on a PostScript laser printer.
> >
> > The original computer (PowerMac 7200/120 if memory serves) was running
> > system 8.0, LaserWriter driver 8.4.3 and MS Word 6.0.1.  The fonts that
> > were transferred were bitmap fonts, there were no printer components for
> > these fonts.  The new computer is an iMac 350Mhz with 128Mb ram,
> > LaserWriter 8.4.3 (downgraded from 8.7)  running MS Office 98 and trying
> > to
> > print to any number of postscript laserwriters.  When I was setting up the
> > iMac I had installed the Russian and other Slavic sounding language kits
> > from System 9.  However the Prof indicated that this would change how she
> > worked and the keyboard mapping of characters and asked me to remove the
> > language kits.  I removed them using the custom remove option of the OS 9
> > installer.  I wouldn't expect that any of the problems were caused by this
> > or am I wrong?
> >
> > One of the more interesting caveats that I encountered was that if I copy
> > text from one of the troubled documents and paste it into another
> > application, say Stickies, the text no longer appears on screen as it did
> > while the text was in word.  It has minor character variations compared to
> > the characters looking correct in Word.  However, the variations do not
> > match what is printed from Word.  Additionally, if I print the text from
> > Stickies the printout has character changes when compared to the text that
> > is shown in Stickies and is different from the text printed from Word.
> >
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From roman at ADMIN.UT.EE  Wed Jan 12 14:42:10 2000
From: roman at ADMIN.UT.EE (R_L)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:42:10 +0200
Subject: What is kukumaria?
In-Reply-To: <200001120841.KAA23099@kadri.ut.ee>
Message-ID: <WED.12.JAN.2000.164210.0200.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

http://www.altavista.com/cgi-bin/query?pg=q&KL=isitczdakonllvenltetnofiplfrd
eroelrueshusv&enc=cp1251&sc=on&q=%EA%F3%EA%F3%EC%E0%F0%E8%FF&kl=XX&stype=ste
xt&search.x=28&search.y=9

A kind of seafood. "Sea cucumber".
See also:

http://www.altavista.com/cgi-bin/query?pg=q&sc=on&q=cucumaria&kl=XX&stype=st
ext&search.x=21&search.y=14

R_L

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From elenalev at IX.NETCOM.COM  Wed Jan 12 15:00:46 2000
From: elenalev at IX.NETCOM.COM (Elena Levintova)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 07:00:46 -0800
Subject: What is kukumaria?
Message-ID: <WED.12.JAN.2000.070046.0800.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Kukumaria was a sea fish we used to eat in the hungrier years "rastsveta
zastoya".  I tried to look it up in my food and biology dictionaries, but it
was not there.

M. Tsutsumi wrote:

> Dear Seelangers,
>
>     What is kukumaria ( or kukumarija )? My colleague said these
> Cyrillic letters was on a can.
>
>     Masanori TSUTSUMI
>     Kanagawa University
>     Yokohama, Japan
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From roman at ADMIN.UT.EE  Wed Jan 12 15:09:25 2000
From: roman at ADMIN.UT.EE (R_L)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 17:09:25 +0200
Subject: What is kukumaria?
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At 07:00 12.01.00 -0800, you wrote:
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>Kukumaria was a sea fish we used to eat in the hungrier years "rastsveta
>zastoya".  I tried to look it up in my food and biology dictionaries, but it
>was not there.
No way.
The portrait of this creature you can find at:
http://www.fegi.ru/PRIMORYE/atlas/at23.htm


R_L

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From VLK960 at CJ.AUBG.BG  Wed Jan 12 17:37:42 2000
From: VLK960 at CJ.AUBG.BG (Uladzimir Katkouski)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 19:37:42 +0200
Subject: slavic lang's translation businesses on-line
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Szanownyja SEELANGcy,

I'd be thankful if someone could provide information about Slavic
languages translation business on the Internet.

- What are their fees and costs (I'm interested in Czech, Polish,
Serbian);
- What modes of payment do they accept?
- How fast/reliable/efficient are they?
- What are the best Web sites where one can find info about such on-
line businesses?

Zahadzia vialiki dziakuj,
U.K.


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From Gottscha at ACTR.ORG  Wed Jan 12 18:54:32 2000
From: Gottscha at ACTR.ORG (Kate Gottschall)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:54:32 -0500
Subject: Position Announcements - Listing
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The American Councils for International Education: ACTR/ACCELS

Searches are currently underway for the positions listed below.  For complete descriptions and qualifications, please refer to the American Councils website: www.actr.org.

Senior Program Manager, Higher Education Program
Location:  Washington, DC

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The American Councils for International Education: ACTR/ACCELS is a private, non-profit educational association and exchange organization devoted to improving education, professional training and research within and regarding the countries of the former Soviet Union.  American Councils develops and administers educational and training programs for U.S. and NIS government agencies, educational institutions, and businesses; conducts in-country professional development programs for alumni of exchange and training programs, including conferences and workshops; serves as a forum for policymakers on U.S.-NIS relations; recruits for and manages more than fifteen major sponsored exchange programs with the countries of the former Soviet Union; manages student advising centers in Russia, Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, and Uzbekistan; administers standardized testing in the NIS for the Educational Testing Service; and publishes textbooks and materials for the teaching of Russian and English as foreign languages. Our overseas staff of 250, both Americans and foreign nationals, stretches across thirty-one cities in twelve countries of the NIS.

The American Councils welcomes applications for current and future position vacancies.  We retain resumes of qualified candidates for approximately nine months and will contact prospective candidates, as suitable positions become available.  Anticipate appointments beginning immediately through fall 2000.

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From gadassov at WANADOO.FR  Wed Jan 12 18:54:40 2000
From: gadassov at WANADOO.FR (Adassovsky Georges)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 19:54:40 +0100
Subject: IMAC problem
In-Reply-To: <v04011700b4a0d3afbe07@[129.105.248.122]>
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>Dear Seelangers,
>
>If you could help with the problem
>described below, I would be very grateful.
>
>Thank you, Pat Zody

Your problem may come from Word. Did you try to use the word translator
when opening your documents ? (word 6 to word 98)
Georges

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From a.jameson at DIAL.PIPEX.COM  Thu Jan 13 11:07:42 2000
From: a.jameson at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Andrew Jameson)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:07:42 -0000
Subject: colourless green ideas
Message-ID: <THU.13.JAN.2000.110742.0000.>

Or, in English: "Colourless green ideas sleep furiously"
(Noam Chomsky). Others better versed in linguistics
than I will fill in the date and correct me if necessary.
Andrew Jameson
Chair, Russian Committee, ALL
Languages and Professional Development
1 Brook Street, Lancaster LA1 1SL UK
Tel: 01524 32371  (+44 1524 32371)

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From: Alexey I. Fuchs <c0654038 at TECHST02.TECHNION.AC.IL>
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: Re: glokaja kuzdra
Date: 10 January 2000 11:58

Please answer publicly, on the list, for I ought to know that too. I've
been hearing this sentence since I was a child. I believe it goes like
that:
"Glokaya kuzdra shteko budlanula bokra i kurdyachit bokrenka."

I am not so sure. Please, if anybody knows, give also the source (who was
the famous academic) and references.


                                                                  _
                                                                A.F.

On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Ursula Doleschal wrote:

> Could anyone please help me with the following informations:
> 1) the complete citation of the Russian nonsense-word sentence "glokaja kuzdra ...budlanula bokrenka"
> 2) an equivalent of such a sentence in Polish AND Czech (cf. German: Piroten karulieren elatisch)
> 3) If there are morpheme and/or word-formational dictionaries for Polish and Czech (as Kuznetsova/Efremova Slovar morfem or
Tichonov Slovoobrazovatelnyj slovar).
>
> I s Novym Godom!
>
> Dr. Ursula Doleschal
> Inst. f. Slawische Sprachen, WU Wien
> Rossauer Laende 23, A-1090 Wien
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From natalia.pylypiuk at UALBERTA.CA  Thu Jan 13 14:24:48 2000
From: natalia.pylypiuk at UALBERTA.CA (Natalia Pylypiuk)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 07:24:48 -0700
Subject: Ukrainian & Russian position, Univ. of Saskatchewan
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Please reply directly to address given below.
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
/////////////////////////////////////////

UNIVERSITY OF SASKATCHEWAN
Department of Languages and Linguistics,
Tenure Track Position in Slavic.

The Department of Languages and Linguistics at the
University of Saskatchewan invites applications for a
tenure-track position in Slavic Languages (Russian and Ukrainian)
at the Assistant Professor level, commencing 1 July 2000,
subject to budgetary approval. Applicants should
have a PhD (complete or near completion) in a relevant area of
specialization and possess native or near-native fluency in Russian,
Ukrainian and English. They should have demonstrated excellence in
teaching.

The successful candidate will teach and/or supervise
instruction in Russian and Ukrainian at all levels, as well as literature
and/or linguistics and/or culture courses related to either of the two
languages. She or he will also participate in program development at the
undergraduate and graduate levels. The Department wishes to hire
an individual who has an active research program or potential
for establishing such a program, and who is also willing to foster good
relations with persons outside the University.

Candidates are asked to submit their curricula vitae and
arrange for three current letters of reference to be sent directly to:

Dr. Nancy Senior, Head,
Department of Languages and Linguistics,
University of Saskatchewan,
9 Campus Drive,
Saskatoon, SK       S7N 5A5
CANADA

The closing date for applications is January 28, 2000.
For more information about the University of Saskatchewan, you may
visit our web site at http://www.usask.ca or e-mail
Professor Nancy Senior at <seniorn at duke.usask.ca>

The University is committed to Employment Equity. Members of
Designated Groups (women, aboriginal people, people with disabilities
and visible minorities) are encouraged to self-identify on their applications.

This position has been cleared for advertising at the tier-two level.
Applications are invited from qualified individuals, regardless of
their immigration status.

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From kenneth.udut at SPCORP.COM  Thu Jan 13 15:08:32 2000
From: kenneth.udut at SPCORP.COM (Udut, Kenneth)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:08:32 -0500
Subject: Electronic Russian Dictionary/Spell Checker wanted...
Message-ID: <THU.13.JAN.2000.100832.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Hello SEELANGers!  For those on break, hope y'all are enjoying it!

A quick question:

Is there an electronic Russian dictionary/spellchecker (the spellchecker
portion is less important) for Windows95 which has each word
coded, as to whether it is a noun, masc, singular, nominative,
an adjective, feminine, plural, dative -- etc?

I've been working with materials that I've found online, and
some aren't bad, this is one area they're all lacking.

Of course, they all assume that one can identify whether a
word is a noun, or adjective or verb (etc), and only tell you
the gender if it doesn't follow one of the standard rules for
figuring out that sort of thing.


So, any leads on an electronic dictionary which has these
things?  [the dictionary itself should be exportable, along
with the 'tag' information]


One more (dumb) question, to not waste space:
What are the rules again for figuring out syllable breaks
in Russian words?
I feel silly for asking, as I have read it somewhere, but I can't
seem to find the information in any of my books @ home, nor online,
so I don't know where I've read it.

Thanks again!

-Kenneth


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From tom.priestly at UALBERTA.CA  Thu Jan 13 15:10:09 2000
From: tom.priestly at UALBERTA.CA (Tom Priestly)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 08:10:09 -0700
Subject: glokaja / colorless ideas
Message-ID: <THU.13.JAN.2000.081009.0700.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Andrew Jameson:
Rather than "Colorless green ideas" (which has meaningful morphemes in an
less-than-normally meaningful combination), a better English parallel to
"glokaja kuzdra" would be "'Twas brillig and the slithy toves did gyre and
gimble in the wabe," - where you have meaningless (or close-to-meaningless)
morphemes in a meaningful combination.
For all:
I have a question (being very vague when it comes to chronology): which
came first - "glokaja kuzdra", or the experiments in "sound-poetry" by
Khlebnikov, Sel'vinskij and others, some of which could have been used by
Shcherba in his lecture (if the poems antedated the lecture)? Or is there
some earlier potential Russian source for the one, for the other, or for
both (e.g., an early Russian translation of 'Jabberwocky'?)
Tom Priestly

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From natalia.pylypiuk at UALBERTA.CA  Thu Jan 13 15:26:21 2000
From: natalia.pylypiuk at UALBERTA.CA (Natalia Pylypiuk)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 08:26:21 -0700
Subject: CAS, second Call for Papers, deadline approaching
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FEBRUARY 15, 2000, DEADLINE:


Annual Meeting of the Canadian Association of Slavists (CAS):
27-29 May 1999, University of Alberta, Edmonton, AB

Dear Colleagues and Students,

In the year 2000 the Congress of the Social Sciences and Humanities
will be held at the University of Alberta in Edmonton.  The annual
meeting of the Canadian Association of Slavists has been scheduled
for the 27, 28 and 29 of May.  As Programme Chair I invite all
Slavists to join us in Edmonton!

To facilitate the organization of panels, I have posted on the site
of *Canadian Slavonic Papers* (http://www.ualberta.ca/~csp) two
electronic proposal forms, one for Individual Papers and one for Panels.
I encourage you to submit whenever possible complete panel proposals.
A hard copy of the proposal forms will appear in the CAS Fall
Newsletter.  However, electronic submissions are preferable.

This year's programme will include brief synopses of all papers and a
fifty-word resume is required.  Kindly note that the deadline for
submission of proposals is February 15.  This will ensure the timely
preparation of a preliminary programme along with the reservation of
rooms and appropriate equipment. Many associations will be meeting on
May 27, 28 and 29.  Thus competition for space and equipment will be
keen.

To defray administrative costs of processing late submissions, a fee
of ten dollars--payable directly to the Canadian Association of
Slavists--will be charged for proposals that arrive after February
15. No proposals will be accepted after March 31.

All participants in the CAS meeting, be they presenters or members of
the audience, must register. (For purposes of registration at the
Congress, the Canadian Association of Slavists is no. 56.) The number
of registered participants determines the amount of support that the
Canadian Federation of the Social Sciences and Humanities lends to
CAS. The *Congress Registration Guide* will inform you about
registration procedures (by mail, fax, WWW or in person), hotel and
dormitory accommodations, and method of payment. The deadline for
early registration is March 31.

SPECIAL COLLOQUIA

Three international and interdisciplinary colloquia will be staged
over the eight-day duration of the Congress (May 24-31, 2000).

The topics of the colloquia are: (1) Globalization, Societies,
Culture. Contact: Dr. Vanaja Dhruvarajan, President, Canadian
Sociology and Anthropology Association
<dhruvarajan-v at s-h.uwinnipeg,ca>
   (2) The North (including the Circumpolar North). Contact: Dr. John
Tucker, President, Association for the Advancement of Scandinavian
Studies in Canada <jtucker at uvic.ca>
   (3) Law, Culture and Society. Contact: Dr. Tim Burton
<tim.burton at ualberta.ca>.
Associations like CAS may join other member associations to sponsor
events in conjunction with the colloquia.  These events must (a) have
clear pertinence across several disciplines in the humanities and
social sciences; (b) involve leading researchers in the relevant
areas; (c) have representation from scholars outside Canada; (d) have
some representation from sectors outside academe.  For more
information, please contact individuals named above.

JOINT SESSIONS

The Federation encourages interdisciplinary outreach and will award
special funds to associations holding joint sessions.  For this
reason, I draw your attention to associations whose meeting dates
overlap with those of CAS.

On May 27: Canadian Society of Biblical Studies (6), Association for
Canadian and Quebec Literatures (7), Canadian Society for the Study
of Church History (9), Canadian Association of Hispanists (24),
Canadian Comparative Literature Association (38), Canadian Society
for the Study of Names (42), Canadian Society of Patristic Studies
(45), Canadian Philosophical Association (47), Association for
Canadian Theatre Research (64), Canadian Society for Renaissance
Studies (51),Canadian Theological Society (65), Canadian Association
of Learned Journals (98), Canadian Association for Translation
Studies (240), Canadian Society of Medievalists (249), Canadian
Association of Applied Linguists (256), Canadian Lesbian and Gay
Studies Association (268).

On May 27 and 28: Canadian Society for the Study of Religion (50),
Film Studies Association (242).

On May 27, 28 and 29: Folklore Studies Association of Canada (20),
Canadian Historical Association (26), Canadian Linguistic Association
(27), Canadian Women's Studies Association (96), Association for
Canadian Studies ( 202).

On May 28 and 29: Association for Canadian Jewish Studies (34),
Canadian Population Society (49), Society for Socialist Studies (58),
Canadian Sociology and Anthropology Association (59), International
Association for Philosophy of Law and Social Philosophy (130),
Canadian Association for International Development (225), Canadian
Association for Future Studies (230), Bibliographical Society of
Canada (238), Canadian Cultural Research Network (290).

If you wish to organize a joint session with any one of these
associations, please write to me <natalia.pylypiuk at ualberta.ca>
indicating the name and number of the member association, and I will
send you the names of colleagues whom you should contact.

I look forward to your panel proposals.

        Laskavo prosymo v Edmonton na Konhres!

Natalia Pylypiuk, Programme Chair
Canadian Association of Slavists
Congress 2000



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From ursula.doleschal at WU-WIEN.AC.AT  Thu Jan 13 15:32:36 2000
From: ursula.doleschal at WU-WIEN.AC.AT (Ursula Doleschal)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:32:36 +0100
Subject: glokaja / colorless ideas
Message-ID: <THU.13.JAN.2000.163236.0100.URSULA.DOLESCHAL@WUWIEN.AC.AT>

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Priestly <tom.priestly at UALBERTA.CA>
To: <SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 4:10 PM
Subject: glokaja / colorless ideas


> Andrew Jameson:
> Rather than "Colorless green ideas" (which has meaningful morphemes in an
> less-than-normally meaningful combination), a better English parallel to
> "glokaja kuzdra" would be "'Twas brillig and the slithy toves did gyre and
> gimble in the wabe," Exactly, thank you for the citation. Would anyone
know the Polish and Czech translations for this poem?

- where you have meaningless (or close-to-meaningless)
> morphemes in a meaningful combination.

Mhm, actually just the lexical roots are meaningless, the meaning of
grammatical morphemes is getting obvious at once.

Dr. Ursula Doleschal
Inst. f. Slawische Sprachen, WU Wien
Rossauer Laende 23, A-1090 Wien
Tel.: ++43-1-31336-4115, Fax: 744

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From natalia.pylypiuk at UALBERTA.CA  Thu Jan 13 15:54:18 2000
From: natalia.pylypiuk at UALBERTA.CA (Natalia Pylypiuk)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 08:54:18 -0700
Subject: 2-nd Call for Papers: Teaching Slavic Languages & Cultures; CAS
Message-ID: <THU.13.JAN.2000.085418.0700.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

     FEBRUARY 15, 2000, DEADLINE:


                   Teaching Slavic Languages and Cultures
Annual Meeting of the Canadian Association of Slavists (CAS)
                            27, 28, 29 May 2000
                            University of Alberta
                           Edmonton, AB, Canada


In the year 2000 the University of Alberta will host the Congress of the Social
Sciences and Humanities. In conjunction with this event the Slavic Division of
the Department of Modern Languages and Cultural Studies will organize sessions
devoted to the various aspects of teaching Slavic languages to English-speaking
students.  These sessions will be held during the annual meeting of
the Canadian
Association of Slavists which has been scheduled for the 27, 28 and 29 of May.

The Department of Modern Languages and Cultural Studies at the University of
Alberta enters the new millennium with a strong interdisciplinary and
culturally-
oriented curriculum. We invite you to submit papers that address
theoretical and/or
practical questions concerning the cultural component of language instruction.
We are also interested in discussing the impact of new technologies
on the cultural
and second-language curriculum at the university level.  Papers devoted to
methodologies of second-language teaching and the practical
ramifications of new
theoretical models are equally welcome.

FEBRUARY 15 DEADLINE:
To facilitate the organization of panels, two electronic proposal
forms, one for
Individual Papers and one for Panels, have been posted on the site of *Canadian
Slavonic Papers* (http://www.ualberta.ca/~csp).  We encourage you
to submit whenever possible complete panel proposals. Kindly note
that a fifty-word
resume is required.  The deadline for the submission of proposals is
February 15.
It is imperative that all orders for special equipment be made at this time.


JOINT SESSIONS
Slavists wishing to organize a joint session with the Canadian Association of
Applied Linguists (256), whose annual meeting overlaps with CAS on May 27,
should contact Dr. Alla Nedashkiska <alla.nedashkivska at ualberta.ca>.

SELECTED AND REFEREED PROCEEDINGS

Selected papers from these special sessions will be published in
*Canadian Slavonic Papers.*  These will be edited by the
organizers of the sessions:
          Dr. Waclaw Osadnik <wosadnik at gpu.srv.ualberta.ca>
          Dr. Alla Nedashkivska <alla.nedashkivska at ualberta.ca>
          and Dr. Natalia Pylypiuk

We look forward to your panel proposals.


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CAS, Congress 2000
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From ryan.sullivan at EXPEDITORS.COM  Thu Jan 13 19:07:55 2000
From: ryan.sullivan at EXPEDITORS.COM (ryan.sullivan at EXPEDITORS.COM)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:07:55 -0500
Subject: Help on Bulgarian Translation
Message-ID: <THU.13.JAN.2000.140755.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Hello,
It has been a few years since I have studied Bulgarian, and I am having a bit of
trouble with part of a translation.  I need to translate the following sentence
into Bulgarian for some legal documents:

"This section states that the animal was hunted legally."

Here is what I have so far:

"Otdel''t zajavjava to, che zhivotnoto __________________  s''obrazno zakona."

I'm not sure how to expres the past passive participle for "lovja."  Could any
Bulgarian scholars be of some assistance?  Please forgive me if this sort of
question is not welcome in this arena, but I am desperate for help!  Thank you.

Best regards,
Ryan Sullivan
MIS Support - CMH, CLE
Expeditors International
ryan.sullivan at expeditors.com

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From sipkadan at EROLS.COM  Thu Jan 13 21:46:12 2000
From: sipkadan at EROLS.COM (Danko Sipka)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:46:12 -0500
Subject: Czech translator/interpreter needed
Message-ID: <THU.13.JAN.2000.164612.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear SEELANGERS:
My company (McNeil Technologies, Inc. http://www.mcneiltech.com) is
looking for a part-time Czech translator/interpreter residing in the
Washington DC metro area.
If you are interested, send your inquiry at:

JMcNeil at mcneiltech.com (James L. McNeil, CEO)

Please put "Czech translator/interpreter" as your subject line.

Best,


Danko Sipka

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From yamato at YT.CACHE.WASEDA.AC.JP  Thu Jan 13 23:27:18 2000
From: yamato at YT.CACHE.WASEDA.AC.JP (Yoshimasa Tsuji)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 08:27:18 +0900
Subject: Electronic Russian Dictionary/Spell Checker wanted...
In-Reply-To: <97A32872DFFED211A62E0008C79168A4FAE1D2@kenmsg03b.us.schp.com>
 (kenneth.udut@SPCORP.COM)
Message-ID: <FRI.14.JAN.2000.082718.0900.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Kenneth,
      What are the rules again for figuring out syllable breaks
      in Russian words?

Well, I would answer as follows:
   1. splits can occur only somewhere between vowels. Thus, KGB cannot be
      split not only it is an abbreviation, but also it consists less than
      two vowels though pronunciation wise it has three vowels.
   2. split into components, especially into words, after prefixes,
       and before suffixes (etymology principle).
         e.g. spec-odezhda, kom-intern, zhelezno-dorozhnyj, pod"-ezd
   2a. "y" cannot be split from its preceding consonant. (<pred"-idushchij>
      has become out of fashion already in Grot's days, but I have seen
      <pred-idushchij> in the late 1920's).
   3. hyphenation rules proper such as
       a. abbreviation in upper case only should not be split
       b. double identical consonants to be split between them
            Ros-sija (not Ro-ssija as pronunciation suggests)
       c. "j"(short i) is usually split after it if a vowel precedes it
              raj-onnyj
These three rules are the most basic rules, but there are some
conventional rules as well:
      4. "st", "sk" are advised not not be split
             lenin-skij, etc.
      5. two or more consecutive consonants to be split after the first
         although v-cccv, vc-ccv, vcc-cv are possible. (Please note
         vccc-v is not allowed except in accordance with the rule 2).
            dozh-dja

The hyphenation rules used to be very complicated up to 1930's when
there were pre-1918 intellectuals who preferred old style hyphenation
(as to Grot's manual, see http://www.yt.cache.waseda.ac.jp/razbivka.html),
but the 1918 rules have allowed everyone to do hyphenation just as they
like. School teachers wanted to teach rules that are not so complicated
as old generation compositors knew (they would have split Schwarzen-egger),
but not so simple as the 1918 decree. The result is the 1956 rules that
have become the standard to date.
   However, apart from the fact that most of the software cannot reliably
hyphenate Russian words, there are too many ambiguities in the rules,
especially the rule 2 which heavily depends upon the linguistic knowledge
of the user.

   If hyphenation rules exist to help readers to pronounce the words
correctly (pronunciation principle) even when split, "sam-izdat" is
certainly welcome as "m" there is "hard", but "drozh-zhi" isn't because
"zh" there will not be pronounced "soft" before you knew the subsequent
"zhi". In the case where a consonant is pronounced soft, it should not
be taken apart from the subsequent consonant (the "r" in <Perm'> is one
of the rare cases where "r" is pronounced soft, so <v Pe-rmi> will help
readers better).

  As far as I know, hyphenation dictionaries have ceased to be published
after WW2 and people have become much more tolerant towards breaking rules
which after all did not help readers but always reminded them of their
ignorance of Church Slavonic and European languages.

Cheers,
Tsuji

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From colkitto at SPRINT.CA  Fri Jan 14 01:10:30 2000
From: colkitto at SPRINT.CA (Robert Orr)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 20:10:30 -0500
Subject: glokaja / colorless ideas
Message-ID: <THU.13.JAN.2000.201030.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Actually, I'm not sure that either 'colourless green ideas" or "' twas
brillig .." are meaningless as such:

1) It has been claimed that "colourless green ideas sleep furiously" was an
accurate description of the Rio Conference on the Enviroment in 1992.

2) Lewis Carroll actually provides an elucidation (through, I think Humpty
Dumpty) of "twas brillig .." accompanied by an illustration.  Has anyone
attempted to illustrate "glokaja kuzdra .."? (I always think of a sinister,
goatlike creature ...)

Robert Orr

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From tom.priestly at UALBERTA.CA  Fri Jan 14 01:55:02 2000
From: tom.priestly at UALBERTA.CA (Tom Priestly)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 18:55:02 -0700
Subject: glokaja / colorless ideas
In-Reply-To: <200001140108.SAA15881@pilsener.srv.ualberta.ca>
Message-ID: <THU.13.JAN.2000.185502.0700.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

In reply to  Robert Orr:

>Actually, I'm not sure that either 'colourless green ideas" or "' twas
>brillig .." are meaningless as such:
>
>1) It has been claimed that "colourless green ideas sleep furiously" was an
>accurate description of the Rio Conference on the Enviroment in 1992.
>
>2) Lewis Carroll actually provides an elucidation (through, I think Humpty
>Dumpty) of "twas brillig .." accompanied by an illustration.  Has anyone
>attempted to illustrate "glokaja kuzdra .."? (I always think of a sinister,
>goatlike creature ...)


I tried to allow for the potential meaningfulness of both the above in my
formulation:

. . . . "Colorless green ideas" (which has meaningful morphemes in an
LESS-THAN-NORMALLY MEANINGFUL combination. . .
and
. . . "'Twas brillig and the slithy toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe,"
- where you have meaningless (or CLOSE-TO-MEANINGLESS) morphemes . . .
Knowing of Humpty Dumpty's explanation, which I accept 100%, having heard
it dozens of times as a child; and also once having read a beautiful poem
(by a Sister Someone, forgive my memory) which ends, logically, "and green
ideas furiously sleep."
Re:  both "kuzdra" and "toves"- their non-arbitrary, phonetic-symbolic
meanings are not negligible. "glokaja" is certainly sinister, and the whole
Shcherba's sentence has an abnormal abudance of "dark" sounds. In which
context, does 'shteko' have a [yo]?

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
*  Tom Priestly, Professor
*  Slavic & East European Studies
*  Modern Languages and Cultural Studies
*  University of Alberta
*  Edmonton, Alberta, Canada T6G 2E6
---------------------------------------------------------------

*  day-time telephone:  780 - 492 - 5688
*  fax:               780 - 492 - 9106

*  email:           tom.priestly at ualberta.ca
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From rar at SLAVIC.UMASS.EDU  Fri Jan 14 02:48:04 2000
From: rar at SLAVIC.UMASS.EDU (Robert A. Rothstein)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 21:48:04 -0500
Subject: glokaja...
Message-ID: <THU.13.JAN.2000.214804.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

> . In which
> context, does 'shteko' have a [yo]?

        No, it doesn't.  As I pointed out in my previous posting, Lev Uspenskii
marks the stresses in all the words in Shcherba's sentence except for 'kuzdra',
distinguishing between 'bokrenka' with a diaresis and 'shteko' with an accent
mark.
                                                                        Bob
Rothstein

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From SARIC at HRZ1.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE  Fri Jan 14 09:56:25 2000
From: SARIC at HRZ1.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE (SARIC LJILJANA FB11)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:56:25 MET-1METDST
Subject: (Fwd) SLE 2000, Praepositionen
Message-ID: <FRI.14.JAN.2000.095625.MET1METDST.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Forwarded message:
From:     Self <HRZ1/SARIC>
To:       polyslav at heckel.sfb.uni-tuebingen.de
Subject:  SLE 2000, Pr�positionen
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 13:53:48 MET-1METDST

Liebe Kolleginnen und Kollegen,

SOCIETAS LINGUISTICA EUROPAEA h�lt vom 31. August-2. September 2000
ihre j�hrliche Konferenz in Poznan. Ich werde einen Workshop zum
Thema PR�POSITIONEN organisieren. Wer Lust hat, einen Beitrag zu
diesem Thema zu leisten, melde sich bitte m�glichst schnell bei mir.
N�here Infos zur Konferenz allgemein: http://elex.amu.edu.pl/ifa/sle


Dear collegaues,
SOCIEATS LINGUISTICA EUROPAEA holds its yearly conference from August
31 - 2 September in Poznan. I am going to organise a workshop on
PREPOSITIONS. Anyone who likes to participate in this complex, please
contact me as soon as possible! Further informations about the
conference in general: http://elex.amu.edu.pl/ifa/sle
***********************

Dr. Ljiljana Saric
Slavische Philologie
Universit�t Oldenburg
Postfach 2503
26111 Oldenburg
Fax: (0441)7982307

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From mgorham at UFL.EDU  Fri Jan 14 12:14:29 2000
From: mgorham at UFL.EDU (Michael Gorham)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 08:14:29 -0400
Subject: Cyrillic for Windows 98
Message-ID: <FRI.14.JAN.2000.081429.0400.>

Cyrillic for Windows 98
by David Crawford, MSEE, University of Florida
dec at ufl.edu

The "Cyrillic for Windows 98" web page is now available online at URL:

http://nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu/~decrawf/4905/index.html

This page is designed to assist students and teachers of the Russian
language (with moderate levels of computer experience) in setting up
their personal computers for Russian language applications.  Plain-
English instructions with example illustrations are provided on how
to properly install the fonts and keyboards already provided with the
Windows 98 operating system (American versions), and then use them
within various computer applications.  An emphasis is placed on
Internet software.  Use of add-in driver software and fonts is
minimized.  A few links to other useful Cyrillic computing and
Russian web sites are included.  Comments, suggestions, corrections,
and requests for additional Windows 98 topic coverage are welcome via
email to the author.








-----------------------------
Michael S. Gorham
Department of Germanic and Slavic Studies
University of Florida

263 Dauer Hall
P.O. Box 117430
Gainesville, FL 32611-7430
Phone: 352-392-2101 ex. 206
Fax: 352-392-1067
Email: mgorham at germslav.ufl.edu

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From julie.curtis at WOLFSON.OXFORD.AC.UK  Fri Jan 14 14:06:47 2000
From: julie.curtis at WOLFSON.OXFORD.AC.UK (Julie Curtis)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:06:47 +0000
Subject: Irina Efimovna Kunina-Aleksander
Message-ID: <FRI.14.JAN.2000.140647.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Seelangers,
        I am trying to track down information on Irina Efimovna
Kunina-Aleksander (born St Petersburg, 1903), who was a correspondent of
Evgenii Zamiatin's. She married Bozhidar Aleksander in 1926, and played an
active role in literary life in Yugoslavia in the 1920s and 1930s. During
the 40s she was in New York with her husband, a UN diplomat, and much later
on lived in Switzerland. I have information gleaned from standard Yugoslav
encyclopaedias etc., but am particularly interested in her address in
Switzerland and information about any family members I could contact?
        Please reply to me directly, not to the list.
        many thanks,
        Julie Curtis

Dr Julie Curtis,
Wolfson College,
Oxford
OX2 6UD

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From as at TICOM.KHARKOV.UA  Fri Jan 14 11:44:49 2000
From: as at TICOM.KHARKOV.UA (Alex)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:44:49 +0200
Subject: slavic lang's translation businesses on-line
Message-ID: <FRI.14.JAN.2000.134449.0200.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Uladzimir Katkouski wrote:
>
> Szanownyja SEELANGcy,
>
> I'd be thankful if someone could provide information about Slavic
> languages translation business on the Internet.
>
> - What are their fees and costs (I'm interested in Czech, Polish,
> Serbian);
> - What modes of payment do they accept?
> - How fast/reliable/efficient are they?
> - What are the best Web sites where one can find info about such on-
> line businesses?

I'm sorry, Uladzimir. Did you get an answer? Maybe off the list?
If you did please let me know.

Alexander Stratienko (Ukraine)

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From sforres1 at SWARTHMORE.EDU  Fri Jan 14 20:14:44 2000
From: sforres1 at SWARTHMORE.EDU (Sibelan Forrester)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:14:44 -0500
Subject: Question...
Message-ID: <FRI.14.JAN.2000.151444.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear colleagues,
A friend of mine is writing a feature on the Lenin Library for the
CHRONICLE OF HIGHER EDUCATION and would like very much to include
comments, opinions and anecdotes from foreigners who have used the
library in the past (distant or recent).  If you have experience
there and would be willing to share those impressions, please e-mail
him at your soonest convenience at:

bmacwil at glasnet.ru (Bryon MacWilliams).

It's a good way to give our field a little publicity!

Thank you for your attention --

Sibelan Forrester
not a card-holder

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From KrishGR at AOL.COM  Sat Jan 15 03:55:37 2000
From: KrishGR at AOL.COM (KrishGR at AOL.COM)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 22:55:37 EST
Subject: Phonology of loan words in Russian
Message-ID: <FRI.14.JAN.2000.225537.EST.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Seelangers,

I am currently researching the phonological adaptation of Tatar loan words
into Russian. Do any of you know of resources on this topic and/or general
Russian loan phonology? Thank you very much.

Sincerely,

Krishna Ramaraju
KrishGR at aol.com

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From vbelyanin at MTU-NET.RU  Sat Jan 15 06:41:00 2000
From: vbelyanin at MTU-NET.RU (Valery Belyanin)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 09:41:00 +0300
Subject: glokaja / colorless ideas
Message-ID: <SAT.15.JAN.2000.094100.0300.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Hlebnikov was earlier.


Tom Priestly wrote:

> Andrew Jameson:
> Rather than "Colorless green ideas" (which has meaningful morphemes in an
> less-than-normally meaningful combination), a better English parallel to
> "glokaja kuzdra" would be "'Twas brillig and the slithy toves did gyre and
> gimble in the wabe," - where you have meaningless (or close-to-meaningless)
> morphemes in a meaningful combination.
> For all:
> I have a question (being very vague when it comes to chronology): which
> came first - "glokaja kuzdra", or the experiments in "sound-poetry" by
> Khlebnikov, Sel'vinskij and others, some of which could have been used by
> Shcherba in his lecture (if the poems antedated the lecture)? Or is there
> some earlier potential Russian source for the one, for the other, or for
> both (e.g., an early Russian translation of 'Jabberwocky'?)
> Tom Priestly
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> *  Tom Priestly, Professor
> *  Slavic & East European Studies
> *  Modern Languages and Cultural Studies
> *  University of Alberta
> *  Edmonton, Alberta, Canada T6G 2E6
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *  day-time telephone:  780 - 492 - 5688
> *  fax:               780 - 492 - 9106
>
> *  email:           tom.priestly at ualberta.ca
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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        and Moscow State Linguistic University (Dept of psycholinguistics)
                and New Humanitarian University (dept of foreign languages)
        and Kaluga State University (dept of general and forensic psychology)
     Doctoral thesis:  http://linguistlist.org/diss/diss-html/29678.html (in English)
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From holdeman.2 at OSU.EDU  Sat Jan 15 20:03:36 2000
From: holdeman.2 at OSU.EDU (Jeff Holdeman)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 15:03:36 -0500
Subject: Phonology of loan words in Russian
In-Reply-To: <c0.7ad511.25b149b9@aol.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.15.JAN.2000.150336.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Krishna,

I would suggest looking into these works:

Shipova, Elizaveta Nikolaevna. 1976. Slovar' tiurkizmov v russkom iazyke.
Alma-Ata: Nauka.

Vasmer, Max.  1986.  Etymologicheskii slovar' russkogo iazyka.  Moskva:
Progress.  In the back there are words grouped by language.

Shanskii, Nikolai Maksimovich [Translated by B. S. Johnson. Edited by J. E.
S. Cooper]. 1969.  Russian lexicology.  Oxford, New York: Pergamon Press.
He speaks quite a bit about loan words and their adaptation in Russian.

I hope this helps.

Jeff Holdeman
The Ohio State University
holdeman.2 at osu.edu


>Dear Seelangers,
>
>I am currently researching the phonological adaptation of Tatar loan words
>into Russian. Do any of you know of resources on this topic and/or general
>Russian loan phonology? Thank you very much.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Krishna Ramaraju
>KrishGR at aol.com
>
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From brifkin at FACSTAFF.WISC.EDU  Sun Jan 16 03:30:35 2000
From: brifkin at FACSTAFF.WISC.EDU (Benjamin Rifkin)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 21:30:35 -0600
Subject: Applied Linguistics at MLA
Message-ID: <SAT.15.JAN.2000.213035.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

CALL FOR PAPERS

2000 MLA CONVENTION IN WASHINGTON, DC

The Applied Linguistics Division will sponsor 3 panels as follows:

1.      Gender and Language Learning.

Papers focusing on gender
as a variable in FL study and may examine performance,
motivation, learning styles, language processing strategies and so forth.
Papers must be theoretically grounded.



2.      Feedback and Language Learning.

We welcome papers
examining feedback from instructors, peers, or others on written or spoken
discourse with respect to cognitive, affective or metacognitive issues.
Papers must be theoretically grounded.

3.  Heritage Learners in the Language Classroom

We welcome papers
exploring learner profiles, learner needs, and learning goals for heritage
learners in instructed L2 study of any language.  Papers must be
theoretically grounded.



THE DEADLINE FOR THE SUBMISSION OF ABSTRACTS FOR ALL THREE PANELS IS MARCH 1.

THE SUBMISSION OF ABSTRACTS BY E-MAIL (NOT ATTACHMENTS) IS PREFERED:  Please
send complete contact information (e-mail address, surface mail address,
telephone number, fax number) in the message with the abstract.  Send
abstracts (or queries) to Prof. Benjamin Rifkin at
<brifkin at facstaff.wisc.edu> by March 1, 2000.

I will also accept abstracts (or queries) by the deadline submitted by
surface mail or fax to this address and fax number:

Prof. Benjamin Rifkin
Slavic Dept., UW-Madison
1432 Van Hise Hall, 1220 Linden Dr.
Madison, WI  53706 USA

fax:  (608) 265-2814


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Benjamin Rifkin, Assoc. Prof., Slavic Dept., UW-Madison
1432 Van Hise Hall, 1220 Linden Dr., Madison, WI  53706 USA
voice:  (608) 262-1623; fax:  (608) 265-2814

Director of the Russian School, Middlebury College
Freeman International Center, Middlebury, VT  05753 USA
voice:  (802) 443-5533
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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From pfandl at KFUNIGRAZ.AC.AT  Sun Jan 16 17:14:09 2000
From: pfandl at KFUNIGRAZ.AC.AT (Heinrich Pfandl)
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 18:14:09 +0100
Subject: Glokaja kuzdra shteko budlanula bokra
Message-ID: <SUN.16.JAN.2000.181409.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Seelangers,

I'd like to point out (and agree with one of the participants of the
discussion, Robert Orr) that sentences of this kind have a meaning, and not
only a grammatical one. One of the possible semantic interpretations of
this phrase can be found in Boris Gasparov's wonderful book "Jazyk.
Pamjat'. Obraz" (Moscow 1996), pp. 94-96.

One could translate Shcherba's example into German in very different ways:
Die nülzische Kunsche schripfte daldig den Writt
Die delfige Schrinte wesste nosrig den Mauf
etc. etc.
and every sentence would have, for every speaker of German (native or not),
a different semantic aura: connotations, associations, sound...





                                * * *

Heinrich Pfandl
Institut fuer Slawistik der Universitaet Graz
Merangasse 70
A-8010 GRAZ, Austria.
Tel.: +43/316/380-2525 oder 2520.
Fax: +43/316/380-9773.
mailto:pfandl at kfunigraz.ac.at

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From c0654038 at TECHST02.TECHNION.AC.IL  Sun Jan 16 17:56:47 2000
From: c0654038 at TECHST02.TECHNION.AC.IL (Alexey I. Fuchs)
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 19:56:47 +0200
Subject: Glokaja kuzdra shteko budlanula bokra
In-Reply-To: <l03130300b4a697b171ef@[143.50.33.36]>
Message-ID: <SUN.16.JAN.2000.195647.0200.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

> Dear Seelangers,
> 
> I'd like to point out (and agree with one of the participants of the
> discussion, Robert Orr) that sentences of this kind have a meaning, and not
> only a grammatical one. One of the possible semantic interpretations of
> this phrase can be found in Boris Gasparov's wonderful book "Jazyk.
> Pamjat'. Obraz" (Moscow 1996), pp. 94-96.

I tend to disagree with that. Once I puzzled myself trying to make up a
word that would have no meaning whatsoever. It turned out to be a
non-trivial task, for anything I would come up with had, as you say,
semantic aura for me. The word "shteko," for example, invariably stack to
"shteker," and I imagined a sinister creature lifting up the poor "bokr"
(or, rather, "bokyor?") on two sharpened fork-like fingers. Shteko thus
meant "shtekeropodobno." "Budlanula" means more or less "bodnula", but
phonetic similarity is not a semantic guide. I can bring more examples.

Semantic aura, as I see it, should be classified more or less as a
subjective feeling and dealt with from the aesthetic, rather than
linguistic point of view. Not one word out of the famous phrase (apart
from "i") has specific meaning. "Kuzdra," though imaginable, is nowhere
defined, it is not a russian word, and thus has no meaning as well as
"shteko" and "bokr."

I do not bring arguments of the type "it is not in the dictionary,"
because for me anything that is created according to word generation
traditions (I do not even say "laws") and sounds well for the language can
be considered to be a "legal" word. Scherba's example, however, does not
contain anything naturally generated, not even onomatopaeic creatures or
etymologically traceable roots. It's charm and "intolerable lightness of
being" is in its agreeable sound. It is void of meaning, because anyone
who desires to bestow a meaning upon it, can do it according to his own
connotations and associations, and the fact that it can be translated in
different ways underlines this observation. From my point of view.


					Sincerely,
							Alexey Fuchs

> 
> One could translate Shcherba's example into German in very different ways:
> Die n�lzische Kunsche schripfte daldig den Writt
> Die delfige Schrinte wesste nosrig den Mauf
> etc. etc.
> and every sentence would have, for every speaker of German (native or not),
> a different semantic aura: connotations, associations, sound...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>                                 * * *
> 
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> Institut fuer Slawistik der Universitaet Graz
> Merangasse 70
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> Fax: +43/316/380-9773.
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From gadassov at WANADOO.FR  Sun Jan 16 20:10:50 2000
From: gadassov at WANADOO.FR (Adassovsky Georges)
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 21:10:50 +0100
Subject: Glokaja kuzdra shteko budlanula bokra
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.95.1000116192820.21020A-100000@techst02.technion.ac.il>
Message-ID: <SUN.16.JAN.2000.211050.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

>> I'd like to point out (and agree with one of the participants of the
>> discussion, Robert Orr) that sentences of this kind have a meaning, and not
>> only a grammatical one. One of the possible semantic interpretations of
>> this phrase can be found in Boris Gasparov's wonderful book "Jazyk.
>> Pamjat'. Obraz" (Moscow 1996), pp. 94-96.


>I tend to disagree with that. Once I puzzled myself trying to make up a
>word that would have no meaning whatsoever. It turned out to be a
>non-trivial task, for anything I would come up with had, as you say,
>semantic aura for me. The word "shteko," for example, invariably stack to
>"shteker," and I imagined a sinister creature lifting up the poor "bokr"
>(or, rather, "bokyor?") on two sharpened fork-like fingers. Shteko thus
>meant "shtekeropodobno." "Budlanula" means more or less "bodnula", but
>phonetic similarity is not a semantic guide. I can bring more examples.
>
>Semantic aura, as I see it, should be classified more or less as a
>subjective feeling and dealt with from the aesthetic, rather than
>linguistic point of view. Not one word out of the famous phrase (apart
>>from "i") has specific meaning. "Kuzdra," though imaginable, is nowhere
>defined, it is not a russian word, and thus has no meaning as well as
>"shteko" and "bokr."
>
>I do not bring arguments of the type "it is not in the dictionary,"
>because for me anything that is created according to word generation
>traditions (I do not even say "laws") and sounds well for the language can
>be considered to be a "legal" word. Scherba's example, however, does not
>contain anything naturally generated, not even onomatopaeic creatures or
>etymologically traceable roots. It's charm and "intolerable lightness of
>being" is in its agreeable sound. It is void of meaning, because anyone
>who desires to bestow a meaning upon it, can do it according to his own
>connotations and associations, and the fact that it can be translated in
>different ways underlines this observation. From my point of view.
>
>
>                                       Sincerely,
>                                                       Alexey Fuchs

Well, Scherba tryed to demonstrate something through his sentence, doesn't he?

Georges

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From tom.priestly at UALBERTA.CA  Mon Jan 17 16:43:42 2000
From: tom.priestly at UALBERTA.CA (Tom Priestly)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 09:43:42 -0700
Subject: Russian frequency lists
Message-ID: <MON.17.JAN.2000.094342.0700.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Please reply off-list:
Have there been any Russian-language frequency lists ('dictionaries')
published in the last 10 years? (And if not, when was the most recent one
published?) And especiaslly, any based on spoken-language corpora?
With thanks,
Tom Priestly

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From m-greenberg at UKANS.EDU  Mon Jan 17 22:05:29 2000
From: m-greenberg at UKANS.EDU (Marc L. Greenberg)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 16:05:29 -0600
Subject: (Fwd) University of Kansas Croatian summer program
Message-ID: <MON.17.JAN.2000.160529.0600.>

Dear SEELANGers,
I am forwarding the following message for Prof. William March at the
University of Kansas, who will be running the summer program in
Croatian in Zagreb. Please contact him directly (e-mail and other
addresses below) for further information.
Sincerely,
Marc L. Greenberg
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Date sent:              Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:26:17 -0800 (PST)
From:                   bill.march at excite.com
Subject:                KU croatian program
To:                     m-greenberg at UKANS.EDU

Here is the latest information on the KU-Zagreb U-Matica 2000 Summer
Language and Culture Program in Zagreb, Croatia.

The University of Kansas, through the sponsorship of the Department
of
Slavic Languages and Literatures and the Office of Study Abroad will
be
sending a group of students to the Zagreb University Summer School of
Croatian Language and Culture. While still tentative at this point,
depending on the enrollment of a minimum number of eight students, it
now
appears fairly certain there will be enough students, judging by the
interest expressed thus far.

Intensive language instruction will be held in Zagreb, July 1 - 28, 5
hours daily, M-F, for a total of 100 hours. Additionally, after the
conclusion of the Zagreb School, in order to meet the usual
requirements
for American summer study abroad programs, a ten-day culture and
study
tour on the coast, July 29 - August 7, will be conducted.  The tour will
include 2 hours of language instruction daily, which makes a total of 120
hours of formal language classroom study for the program.  The additional
days, plus the 20 hours of instruction make the program’s participants
eligible for outside funding such as FLAS, NSEP and student loans.  The
language will be taught at several levels, from beginning to advanced. The
teaching in Zagreb will be done by Zagreb U. instructors and on the tour
by the KU group leader. The total duration of the program in Croatia will
be 5 weeks, 3 days.

The cultural content will consist of numerous visits to museums, galleries
of art and other cultural institutions, as well as attendance at concerts,
theater performances, the ‘Smotra folklora’ folk festival and weekend
study trips outside of Zagreb.  Full weekend tours will visit Istria and
Plitvica Lakes National Park in Lika.  The tour of the Croatian coast will
visit a number of places of interest, yet to be determined (possibly the
islands of Cres, Los"inj and Rab, and the towns of Senj, Zadar, Trogir and
Split).

The cost of the program for the participants will vary depending on the
housing and board options chosen. The academic program, including all
cultural aspects and tours will be about $2,240.  The dorm located in
Gornji grad in the very center of town has double occupancy rooms. Room
and board with 3 meals is $18/day ($540 for 30 days), with breakfast and
dinner is $14/day ($420), with breakfast only $10/day  ($300).  Students
may also make their own living arrangements in Zagreb with friends or
relatives, etc., but will be required to attend all activities of the
group, regardless of their housing location.  The cost of meals on the
10-day coastal tour are to be covered by the students individually (an
estimated $150 should be sufficient). An additional $200 should be enough
for local transportation, books and study materials, etc. Of course, other
personal expenses are up to the individual student’s budget and lifestyle
($250 is a suggested reasonable figure).  Finally, the cost of a passport
and airfare and ground transportation to and from Croatia will vary,
depending on the student’s starting point (about $1,200 from Kansas).
Thus, the costs of sample budgets for the Program range as follows:

 minimum                                maximum

  $2,240 (no room and board)      $2,780 (dorm room w/ full board).
     150 (tour meals)                        150 (tour meals)
     200 (books, etc.)                       200 (books, etc.)
     250 (personal exp.)                     250 (personal exp.)
   1,200 (airfare, etc.)                   1,200 (airfare, etc.)
  ______________                  ______________
  $2,840 (total)                              $3,380 (total)

Naturally, the total amount will vary with the student’s actual expenses
for the four lower items listed above.

Students will earn 8 hours undergraduate credits from KU upon successful
completion of the program.  This also applies to high school graduates not
yet enrolled in college, who are welcome to participate.

Application materials and further information can be obtained by
contacting Prof. Bill March by e-mail (bill.march at excite.com; or,
znerezin at falcon.cc.ukans.edu) or by phone at home in the evening, except
Thursdays (785-842-0959).





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Tel. (785) 864-3313 (Dept. secretary)
Fax: (785) 864-4298
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From mireille.graedel at BLUEMAIL.CH  Mon Jan 17 23:17:25 2000
From: mireille.graedel at BLUEMAIL.CH (Mireille Graedel)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 00:17:25 +0100
Subject: Nabokovs dar as a work of literary criticism
Message-ID: <TUE.18.JAN.2000.001725.0100.>

Hello

I'm a new member of the seelangs maillist. I'm a student of russian and
polish literature at the university of fribourg/switzerland.

Currently i'm looking for the article "V. Nabokovs Dar as a Work of
Literary Criticism..." by Simon Karlinsky. The article was edited in
Slavic and East European Journal 7 in 1963; pages 284 to 296.

Who has this article and can send it to me by e-mail
(mireille.graedel at bluemail.ch).
I need it rather urgently for a talk at university.

Thanks a lot.
Regard, Mireille
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From ccosner at DEPAUW.EDU  Tue Jan 18 02:44:41 2000
From: ccosner at DEPAUW.EDU (Chris Cosner)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:44:41 -0500
Subject: funding for Russian undergraduates
Message-ID: <MON.17.JAN.2000.214441.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Would anyone have suggestions on where undergraduate Russian
citizens studying in the US might look for grants and fellowships?
(other than the institution they are attending) Thank you!

Chris Cosner
Assistant Professor of Russian
DePauw Universi

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From aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU  Tue Jan 18 13:49:00 2000
From: aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU (Alina Israeli)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:49:00 -0500
Subject: glokaja kuzdra
Message-ID: <TUE.18.JAN.2000.084900.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Way back in 1997 when this subject was first (?) discussed, K Evans-Romaine
<kat at frognet.net> wrote:

>You might try contacting Shelly Harrison (shelly at cyllene.uwa.edu.au) of the
>Centre for Linguistics of the University of Western Australia. Shelly's
>Linguistics 100 page
>(http://www.general.uwa.edu.au/u/shelly/lin100/introduction.html)
>contains the phrase "the iggle squiggs wombled in the harlish gloop."

**************************************************************
Alina Israeli
LFS, American University                phone:  (202) 885-2387
4400 Mass. Ave., NW                     fax:    (202) 885-1076
Washington, DC 20016

aisrael at american.edu

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From tom.priestly at UALBERTA.CA  Wed Jan 19 17:44:57 2000
From: tom.priestly at UALBERTA.CA (Tom Priestly)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 10:44:57 -0700
Subject: P. Okhrimenko
Message-ID: <WED.19.JAN.2000.104457.0700.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I hope someone can help:

One of the Russian translations of the Slovene short story "Hlapec Jernej
in njegova pravica" by Ivan Cankar (1907) is the following:

Okhrimenko, P. *Pravda batraka*. Moskva (Biblioteka Ogonyok 410), 1929.

When one looks at this and does some comparisons, it is immediately obvious
that (at least mostly, perhaps in toto) Okhrimenko did not translate from
the Slovene, but from the English-language translation made by the Slovene
émigré to the U.S.A., Louis Adamic:

Adamic, Louis. *Yerney's Justice*. New York: Vanguard Press, 1926.

My question: who was P. Okhrimenko? In the sources available to me, I find
a P.P. Okhrimenko as author of works on Belarusian folklore and Ukrainian
literature, published between 1959 and 1970. Almost certainly, the person I
am looking for is not her/him, but - much more likely - s/he is the P.
Okhrimenko who translated Richard Garnett's book *Twilight of the Gods* as
*Sumerki bogov: antireligioznye novelly* (Moscow: Izdatel'stvo polit.
literatury, 1967).

There is a 38-year gap between the Cankar/Adamic translation and the
Garnett translation, but (a) there may have been an earlier edition of
*Sumerki bogov*, and/or (b) one person could have translated two books with
this time gap between them.
In favour of it being the same person to translate both the Cankar and
Garnett, is the fact the Cankar short story is very unsympathetic towards
the representatives of organized religion who occur in it. And this is
*even more* true of the version presented in Adamic's translation.

So: if anyone can tell me anything about the P. Okhrimenko who translated
Cankar/Adamic, and/or the P. Okhrimenko who translated Garnett, and whether
it is one and the same person - or, tell me how I can find out -  I shall
be very grateful!

OfFF-LIST, please.
Tom Priestly



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From denis at DA2938.SPB.EDU  Wed Jan 19 21:39:50 2000
From: denis at DA2938.SPB.EDU (Denis Akhapkine)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 00:39:50 +0300
Subject: Tsvetaeva Works' Translators Seminar
Message-ID: <THU.20.JAN.2000.003950.0300.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear colleagues!
Irma Kudrova asked me to make this announcement.

>>From 10 to 14 of May, 2000, Marina Tsvetaeva's Museum in Moscow is arranging
a Tsvetaeva works' translators seminar. Translators are
invited to link up with Irma Kudrova immediately by the e-mail:
irma at IK5300.spb.edu.
NB! The Museum can't pay travel, location or any others expenses.

We're also searching for some addresses of those translators:

R.Marciniak /Poland/
W.Slobodnik /Poland/
A.Slucky /Poland/
Маrie Luise Bott /Germany/
Каterine Graciadei /Italy/
Veronique Lossky /France, Paris/
Ilma Rakusa   /Switzerland, Zurich University/
Felix Ingold /Publishing House Munchen - Wien - Hanser/
J. Zambor   /Slovakija/
V. Radinska /Bulgaria/
N. Popova /Bulgaria/
?. Lilova /Bulgaria/

Everyone, who'd like to take part in the planned seminar,
or owns any information about people from the list above, please mail to
Irma Kudrova (irma at IK5300.spb.edu) or me.

Thanks in advanse

Denis


Denis Akhapkine                                 phone +7 (812) 552-9750 (home)
Phd Student                                     e-mail denis at da2938.spb.edu
Department of Russian Language
Faculty of Philology
Saint-Petersburg State University
Universitetskaya nab. 11
Saint-Petersburg
199034, Russia

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From sforres1 at SWARTHMORE.EDU  Wed Jan 19 23:35:57 2000
From: sforres1 at SWARTHMORE.EDU (Sibelan Forrester)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 18:35:57 -0500
Subject: 2000 Heldt Prizes -- request for nominations
Message-ID: <WED.19.JAN.2000.183557.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

                                     2000 Heldt Prizes
                                Request for Nominations

The Association for Women In Slavic Studies (AWSS) will award the
2000 Heldt Prizes during its annual meeting at the AAASS National
Convention in November.  Nominations are invited in the following
categories:

1. Best book in Slavic/Eastern European/Eurasian women's  studies;
2. Best book by a woman in any area of Slavic/Eastern
European/Eurasian studies;
3. Best article in Slavic/Eastern European/Eurasian women's studies.

You may nominate material in more than one category, and you may
nominate more than one item within a category.  English language
books or articles published from 31 May 1999 to 31 May 2000 are
eligible for consideration, unless submitted in previous Heldt Prize
competitions.  NOMINATIONS ARE DUE NO LATER THAN 1 JUNE 2000.  To
nominate a book or an article in any category, please send or request
the publisher to send one copy to each member of the prize committee:

n Professor Christine Ruane, Chair, Department of  History,
University of Tulsa, Tulsa, OK  74104;
n Professor Jane Costlow, Department of Foreign Languages, Bates
College, Lewiston, ME  04240;
n Professor Susanne Fusso, Department of Russian, Wesleyan
University, Middletown, CT  06459;
n Professor Anastasia Karakasidou, Department of Anthropology,
Wellesley College, Wellesley, MA 02481.

The Heldt Translation Prize Committee will award a separate prize for
the Best Translation in Slavic/Eastern European/Eurasian Women's
Studies.  To nominate an English-language scholarly or literary
translation published between 31 May 1999 and 31 May 2000, please
send one copy to each committee member no later than 1 JUNE 2000.

n Professor Christine Ruane, Chair, Department of History, University
of Tulsa, Tulsa, OK  74104;
n Professor Rachel May, 655 Allen Street, Syracuse, NY  13210;
n Professor Sibelan Forrester, Department of Modern Languages,
Swarthmore College, 500 College Avenue, Swarthmore, PA  19081.

If you have any questions, please contact Professor Christine Ruane
at the above address or christine-ruane at utulsa.edu. Further
information about the prize competition and about AWSS is available
on the organization's web page at http://130.58.154.91/slavic/AWSS.
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From thebaron at INTERACCESS.COM  Thu Jan 20 05:44:15 2000
From: thebaron at INTERACCESS.COM (baron chivrin)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 23:44:15 -0600
Subject: russian word processing
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s novim godom, seelangisti'

can anyone recommend a good, affordable russian word processing software
program with spell-check for pc computers (not MAC)?

please reply off-list.

blagodaryu.

baron chivrin
thebaron at interaccess.com

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From kenneth.udut at SPCORP.COM  Thu Jan 20 16:39:10 2000
From: kenneth.udut at SPCORP.COM (Udut, Kenneth)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:39:10 -0500
Subject: Interesting site for learning Russian or English
Message-ID: <THU.20.JAN.2000.113910.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I tend towards overexcitement about things - you'll have
to excuse that in me :-)


On a whim, I looked around the web for sites that teach
English for Russians, hoping to find some nice side-by-side
material.

Lo, and behold!

http://www.ispol.com/Learn-English-Fast/lessons.html

This contains 50 'grades', which seem to spiral upwards in
complexity.  All are English and Russian side-by-side in
very short phrases, and I am finding, as a "late beginning level,
perhaps very-nearly-early intermediate" level student, that it
is quite helpful to me.

I am curious if the Russian sounds as 'choppy' as the English
does.  The choppiness is not troublesome to me in the English,
because it is understandable.  But the Russian side is invaluable
for me, since it does a lot of repeating of words and phrases,
making subtle changes here and there, as it moves up through
the 'grades'.

I'm finally starting to "grasp" things that I should have been
able to understand months and months ago - the way suffixes
seem to work through the various cases - and the rythym of
a matched gender/case/declension/number is starting to come
together in my musical brain.

For anyone using "Total Physical Response Storytelling"
{TPRS} in your Russian classes, this should provide nice
material for the purpose.

http://www.ispol.com/Learn-English-Fast/lessons.html

-Kenneth

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From anthony.j.vanchu1 at JSC.NASA.GOV  Thu Jan 20 17:54:37 2000
From: anthony.j.vanchu1 at JSC.NASA.GOV (VANCHU, ANTHONY J. (JSC-AH))
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:54:37 -0600
Subject: Russian Language Teaching Positions
Message-ID: <THU.20.JAN.2000.115437.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

NOTE:  APPLICANTS SHOULD SPECIFY WHICH POSITION THEY ARE APPLYING FOR


TechTrans International, a Houston based company, seeks a qualified
Instructor for a FULL-TIME POSITION to teach Russian in its language
training program at the NASA Johnson Space Center in Houston. Candidates
should demonstrate superior teaching ability, have experience with adult
students, at least an M.A. in Russian or a related field, and be familiar
with current Russian teaching methods, especially task-based and
content-based instruction.  At least near-native fluency in Russian
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From k.r.hauge at EAST.UIO.NO  Fri Jan 21 14:50:00 2000
From: k.r.hauge at EAST.UIO.NO (Kjetil Ra Hauge)
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:50:00 +0100
Subject: Bulgarian indefinite pronouns
In-Reply-To: <A1F9D6905A28D011857D0020AFFC0919056DCE94@jsc-ems-mbs04.jsc.nasa.gov>
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The _avtoreferat_ of Petya Ossenova's 1999 dissertation _Semantika i
funkcionirane na neopredelitelnite mestoimenija v balgarskija ezik_ is now
available through:

http://www.hf.uio.no/east/bulg/mat/index.html

--- Kjetil Ra Hauge, U. of Oslo.
--- Tel. +47/22 85 67 10, fax +47/22 85 41 40

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From kenneth.udut at SPCORP.COM  Fri Jan 21 20:39:19 2000
From: kenneth.udut at SPCORP.COM (Udut, Kenneth)
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:39:19 -0500
Subject: What makes up a Russian noun is like a candle flame...
Message-ID: <FRI.21.JAN.2000.153919.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

[Please delete if not interested in
the short ramblings of a young fool.]


I'm starting to see why certain parts of
Russian grammar have been giving me so much
mental trouble.

For example, a Russian noun.


A Russian noun has a 'case' (Nom, Acc, Gen, Dat, Instrum, Prep)
A Russian noun has a 'gender' (Masc, Fem, Neut)
A Russian noun has a 'number' (Sing, Plur)

[there is more than this, of course, but I'm still at basic levels]

Now, I should have just accepted these things, and have,
to a degree, but for some reason, I just couldn't wrap
my mind around what was bothering me.

Now I'm starting to see why.

Without a case, it is not a Russian noun.
without a gender, it is not a Russian noun.
Without a number, it is not a Russian noun.

Do you have a noun if you have only case and gender?
No - you also need number.
Do you have a noun if you have only gender and number?
No, you need the case.
Do you have a noun if you have only number and case?
No - you need the gender.

It is within the communion of those three things
that a noun is a noun, and its function/place known.

The entry in dictionaries, is done properly.
It shows the Gender (masc, fem, neut), and
sometimes Number (usually Singular, but sometimes
Plural), and the case is almost always Nominative.

The Number usually can change.
The Case certainly can change.
The Gender does not (as far as I know).

But there can be no entry in the dictionary
if it does not indicate the noun's Case, Gender,
and Number.

It's usually assumed that you know it is:

Masculine
Nominative
Singular

unless it specifies otherwise.


It is like a candle flame - without heat, it is
not a flame.  Without light, it is not a flame.
It is both heat and light.  There are different
degrees of heat and light, but there is always heat
and light in a flame.

Just like there is always case, gender and number
in a Russian noun.


I knew this before - it's explained well enough in
the various books I have on it.  But it's only just
'sunk in'.

Never study Russian Orthodox Christian theology (esp on
nature of the Trinity) at the same
time you are trying to comprehend Russian grammar!

Apophatic (sp?) theology of the Trinity (does not exist
without the Son, does not exist without the Father,
does not exist without the Holy Spirit), and trying
to get a 'grasp' on that, and accept it, led me to
proceed with the same process of thinking on Russian nouns,
pronouns, adjectives, and verbs.

It's taken about a year before my first exposure to Russian
cases, before it is finally just starting to sink in deeply.

It only just 'clicked in' that I was using the same process
of thinking on Russian grammar -- which is entirely unnecessary.

[and, actually, it leads to the same point - that you just
have to accept that "it is so".  Some accept it right away,
some after just a little questioning and thinking, and some
take a whole year before it 'clicks in', and it can be
accepted]

Thanks for listening to my ramble!

-Kenneth

--
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From dienes at COMPLIT.UMASS.EDU  Sat Jan 22 00:26:06 2000
From: dienes at COMPLIT.UMASS.EDU (Laszlo Dienes)
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 19:26:06 -0500
Subject: Money transfer to Moscow
In-Reply-To: <97A32872DFFED211A62E0008C79168A4FAE257@kenmsg03b.us.schp.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.21.JAN.2000.192606.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear colleagues,

I would greatly appreciate current information about methods for
transferring money to Moscow.

I'd be interested in learning about any method (official, semiofficial,
unofficial...) that you have found to be "working" these days (i.e., the
money ended up in the hands of the intended recipient, without
jeopardizing his safety). (This last clause is a reflection on stories one
hears about people receiving money thru a bank, then being robbed as they
leave the bank!)

Thanks in advance for any ideas or suggestions!

Laszlo Dienes
dienes at complit.umass.edu

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From jglad at WAM.UMD.EDU  Fri Jan 21 23:31:50 2000
From: jglad at WAM.UMD.EDU (John Glad)
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 19:31:50 -0400
Subject: Money transfer to Moscow
Message-ID: <FRI.21.JAN.2000.193150.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I just send money and medicines through friends.

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From edmir at GLASNET.RU  Sat Jan 22 01:18:20 2000
From: edmir at GLASNET.RU (edmir)
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 04:18:20 +0300
Subject: Money transfer to Moscow
Message-ID: <SAT.22.JAN.2000.041820.0300.>

Hi from Moscow/Russia!

I am a Russian translator/interpreter here in Moscow. Can assure you from
my own experience - there can be absolutely no problem with money transfer
from abroad.

Leaving alone private ways like through friends, etc. you can safely and
legally transfer USD to a person's bank account here in Moscow - if he/she
has a bank account in USD (no problem to open one, needs just USD 5 to do
it).
The other way: through Western Union - they have dozens of branches
throughout Moscow and the country. Just check it yourself with the nearest
to you WU office.
You can even mail a check by registered mail - it's also ok, but will take
in some cases up to 3 months to get cleared.

Bank transfer takes up to 10 days and the receiver pays banking fee
depending on the amount transferred, but not less than USD 10.
Western Union transfer is instant, the fee is payed by the sender, they can
even give a call to the addressee and inform him of the arrived money. You
can get all info from them.

It's all bullshit about people being robbed while leaving banks. There
could have been cases - but just like anywhere else in the world. You have
cash in your pocket - you can't be absent-minded and careless. That is all
about it.

My best

Pavel Kozlov
Member, Translators Union of Russia
ICQ 3839553
----------
> From: Laszlo Dienes <dienes at COMPLIT.UMASS.EDU>
> To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
> Subject: Money transfer to Moscow
> Date: 22 ÿíâàðÿ 2000 ã. 3:26
>
> Dear colleagues,
>
> I would greatly appreciate current information about methods for
> transferring money to Moscow.
>
> I'd be interested in learning about any method (official, semiofficial,
> unofficial...) that you have found to be "working" these days (i.e., the
> money ended up in the hands of the intended recipient, without
> jeopardizing his safety). (This last clause is a reflection on stories
one
> hears about people receiving money thru a bank, then being robbed as they
> leave the bank!)
>
> Thanks in advance for any ideas or suggestions!
>
> Laszlo Dienes
> dienes at complit.umass.edu
>
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From rrobin at GWU.EDU  Sat Jan 22 01:23:54 2000
From: rrobin at GWU.EDU (Richard Robin)
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 20:23:54 -0500
Subject: Money transfer to Moscow
Message-ID: <FRI.21.JAN.2000.202354.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

In July 1998, I succesfully transfered $600 tax free to a Russian friend in SPb
through Western Union. The cost was $66. The procedure I used was to name the
person and address here in the U.S. over the phone. I paid by credit card. The
money transfered instantly (well - next business day, since I was calling at
5pm ET, 1 am MT) The person in question showed up the next morning, passport in
hand and got the money hassle-free. Just in case WU provides a transaction
number, which you can optionally give to the recipient by phone. I had also
used this procedure in 1997. Every few months I hear something about the
authorities cracking down on this kind of operation, but i don't know if that
has happened.

- Richard Robin

Laszlo Dienes wrote:

> Dear colleagues,
>
> I would greatly appreciate current information about methods for
> transferring money to Moscow.
>
> I'd be interested in learning about any method (official, semiofficial,
> unofficial...) that you have found to be "working" these days (i.e., the
> money ended up in the hands of the intended recipient, without
> jeopardizing his safety). (This last clause is a reflection on stories one
> hears about people receiving money thru a bank, then being robbed as they
> leave the bank!)
>
> Thanks in advance for any ideas or suggestions!
>
> Laszlo Dienes
> dienes at complit.umass.edu
>
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German and Slavic Dept.
The George Washington University
WASHINGTON, DC 20052
Can read HTML mail.
Читаю по-русски в любой кодировке.
Chitayu po-russki v lyuboi kodirovke.

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From yamato at YT.CACHE.WASEDA.AC.JP  Sat Jan 22 01:58:04 2000
From: yamato at YT.CACHE.WASEDA.AC.JP (Yoshimasa Tsuji)
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 10:58:04 +0900
Subject: What makes up a Russian noun is like a candle flame...
In-Reply-To: <97A32872DFFED211A62E0008C79168A4FAE257@kenmsg03b.us.schp.com>
 (kenneth.udut@SPCORP.COM)
Message-ID: <SAT.22.JAN.2000.105804.0900.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Hello Kenneth,
  You don't need to worry about grammar unless you have a special
need to speak/write as if you were an educated Russian. For the
overwhelming majority of people what counts is memorizing
useful expressions like (hello, thank you, please, give me a hand, etc.).
Usage comes first, the definition and grammar come later.
  They teach you case/gender/number etc. from the very first perhaps
because they assume that you are well educated and comfortable with
those categories: e.g. you learnt Classic Greek in an exclusive
kindergarten.

Cheers,
Tsuji

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From yamato at YT.CACHE.WASEDA.AC.JP  Sat Jan 22 02:23:09 2000
From: yamato at YT.CACHE.WASEDA.AC.JP (Yoshimasa Tsuji)
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 11:23:09 +0900
Subject: Money transfer to Moscow
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.10.10001211923460.26610-100000@wilde.oit.umass.edu>
 (message from Laszlo Dienes on Fri, 21 Jan 2000 19:26:06 -0500)
Message-ID: <SAT.22.JAN.2000.112309.0900.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Hello,
  Most people seem to use Western Union to send money to Russia. There may
be some other wire transfer to a bank account in Russia, but it won't be
practical (Bank account of non-Russian banks are not open to Russian
individuals, for example).
  The easiest method is paying into the bank account outside Russia so that
your friend may draw the money with her/his bank card in Moscow.
  Please bear in mind that some Russians are extremely afraid of tax
police and don't want to withdraw money from a bank account.
  Never send money(particularly US currency) by post!! The customs
officers have a device to detect it and rightly confiscate it without
notifying you. (including of course TNT, Fedex, DHL, ExpressMail).
  Also please remember that paying with a credit card in Russia will
result in charging you with a substantial payment of interest.

Cheers,
Tsuji

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From as at TICOM.KHARKOV.UA  Fri Jan 21 22:12:44 2000
From: as at TICOM.KHARKOV.UA (Alex)
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 00:12:44 +0200
Subject: What makes up a Russian noun is like a candle flame...
Message-ID: <SAT.22.JAN.2000.001244.0200.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

"Udut, Kenneth" wrote:

> I'm starting to see why certain parts of
> Russian grammar have been giving me so much
> mental trouble.
>
> For example, a Russian noun.
>
> A Russian noun has a 'case' (Nom, Acc, Gen, Dat, Instrum, Prep)
> A Russian noun has a 'gender' (Masc, Fem, Neut)
> A Russian noun has a 'number' (Sing, Plur)
>
> [there is more than this, of course, but I'm still at basic levels]
......................

Dear Kenneth!

A five-year old Russian child has no idea about such things. And
nevertheless it NEVER confuses gender, cases or prepositions.
Except of some nasty mistakes borrowed from adults. This is because
it never learns grammar BEFORE listening and then speaking and then,
perhaps, reading!
So if you want to be as close as possible to native speaking do not try
to learn grammar before LISTENING, SPEAKING and then reading. Otherwise
you are  going to learn Russian as long as I was learning English
(over 40 years!) only to realize in the end that you were wrong
from the very beginning!

Regards

Alex

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From daf at MEIRIONNYDD.FORCE9.CO.UK  Fri Jan 21 18:20:06 2000
From: daf at MEIRIONNYDD.FORCE9.CO.UK (Daf)
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 18:20:06 -0000
Subject: Interesting site for learning Russian or English
Message-ID: <FRI.21.JAN.2000.182006.0000.>

Kenneth Udat wrote
> Lo, and behold!
>
> http://www.ispol.com/Learn-English-Fast/lessons.html
Funnily enough someone told me about this on the list for Russians using
English e-groups e4r. I intend to go and have a look tomorrow. Incidentally
I have started a section on my site for Russians learning English, but at
present it doesn't have a two way section for phrases. It has corrections
of Russian English with explanations. I know this is no use to you as you
want Russian not English. But it might be useful for any Russians who are
listening.
Daf
[web page- http://www.meirionnydd.force9.co.uk ]

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From daf at MEIRIONNYDD.FORCE9.CO.UK  Fri Jan 21 18:13:09 2000
From: daf at MEIRIONNYDD.FORCE9.CO.UK (Daf)
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 18:13:09 -0000
Subject: Russian word processing
Message-ID: <FRI.21.JAN.2000.181309.0000.>

> can anyone recommend a good, affordable russian word processing software
> program with spell-check for pc computers (not MAC)?
>
> please reply off-list.

Actually I for one would be grateful if anyone with this knowledge would
post it on-list.
Daf
[web page- http://www.meirionnydd.force9.co.uk ]

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From djbpitt+seelangs at PITT.EDU  Sat Jan 22 20:05:35 2000
From: djbpitt+seelangs at PITT.EDU (David J Birnbaum)
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 15:05:35 -0500
Subject: AATSEEL 2000 Call for Papers
Message-ID: <SAT.22.JAN.2000.150535.0500.DJBPITTSEELANGS@PITT.EDU>

AATSEEL 2000: Call for Papers

The AATSEEL 2000 Call for Papers is now available on the World Wide Web at
the following URL:

http://clover.slavic.pitt.edu/~djb/aatseel.html

The Call for Papers lists all panels that have been declared by members or
proposed by the Program Committee. Additional panel declarations (for
regular panels, roundtables, workshops, and fora on instructional
materials) are still welcome, and the Call for Papers includes information
about how these should be submitted. The text of the Call for Papers to be
published in the February AATSEEL Newsletter has already gone to press, but
panel declarations will continue to be added to the on-line Call for Papers
as they are received.

The URL noted above also contains links to deadlines, guidelines, and other
conference-related information. Please note that, as in the past, panel
chairs are encouraged to recruit participants (authors of papers and
discussants) for their panels.

Persons interested in presenting a paper at the conference should submit a
one-page abstract to the appropriate Program Committee contact person
(listed in the Call for Papers; please send your abstract directly to the
Program Committee, and not only to the panel chair) by either the 15 April
or 1 August deadline (see the general conference guidelines on the web site
for an explanation of these deadlines). After the abstracts have undergone
anonymous peer review, the Program Committee will work with the panel
chairs to ensure that papers are placed appropriately.

In conformance with the AATSEEL bylaws, all participants in the conference
must be AATSEEL members in good standing. Those who are not North American
Slavists may apply for a waiver of this requirement when they submit their
abstracts or panel declarations.

Looking forward to seeing you in Washington, DC,

David J. Birnbaum
Chair, AATSEEL Program Committee
djbpitt+ at pitt.edu
________

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Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures
1417 Cathedral of Learning
University of Pittsburgh
Pittsburgh, PA 15260 USA
Voice: 1 412 624 5712
Fax: 1 412 624 9714
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From aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU  Sat Jan 22 14:43:22 2000
From: aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU (Alina Israeli)
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 09:43:22 -0500
Subject: What makes up a Russian noun is like a candle flame...
Message-ID: <SAT.22.JAN.2000.094322.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

>A five-year old Russian child has no idea about such things. And
>nevertheless it NEVER confuses gender, cases or prepositions.

Maybe bacause it's not "it" but a he or a she.


**************************************************************
Alina Israeli
LFS, American University                phone:  (202) 885-2387
4400 Mass. Ave., NW                     fax:    (202) 885-1076
Washington, DC 20016

aisrael at american.edu

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From daf at MEIRIONNYDD.FORCE9.CO.UK  Sat Jan 22 18:44:13 2000
From: daf at MEIRIONNYDD.FORCE9.CO.UK (Daf)
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 18:44:13 -0000
Subject: What makes up a Russian noun is like a candle flame...
Message-ID: <SAT.22.JAN.2000.184413.0000.>

>>and, actually, it leads to the same point - that you just
have to accept that "it is so".  Some accept it right away,
some after just a little questioning and thinking, and some
take a whole year before it 'clicks in', and it can be
accepted]<<
We do have our revenge you know. Spare a thought for poor Russians who have
to get into our psyche in order to attach either 'the' or  'a' or nothing
to the aforesaid nouns, when they know perfectly well that one can do
without articles altogether.

>>Thanks for listening to my ramble!

Not at all Kenneth. It was a pleasure <g>
Daf
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From ilon at UT.EE  Sun Jan 23 15:12:11 2000
From: ilon at UT.EE (Ilon Fraiman)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 17:12:11 +0200
Subject: help on spelling
Message-ID: <SUN.23.JAN.2000.171211.0200.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Seelangers,
I will be very grateful to anyone for answering me this question how to
spell prof. Jules Levin's name in Russian (I mean surname, of cource). Does
it pronounce in English  like a French or like a Russian surname?
Please, write offlist.
Thank you in advance,
Ilon Fraiman.

ilon at ut.ee

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From frankdp at EROLS.COM  Sun Jan 23 20:22:50 2000
From: frankdp at EROLS.COM (Frank Poulin)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 15:22:50 -0500
Subject: SEEJ journals for free
Message-ID: <SUN.23.JAN.2000.152250.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Hi All:

I have a collection of SEEJ journals from 1989 to 1996 that I'd like to give to anyone who needs them.  The person only needs to pay for the shipment.  I'll also throw in my Russian Review journals (from about 1993-1995) and Slavic Review journals (from about 1994-1995).

If interested, please reply to my e-mail address above (frankdp at erols.com).

Thanks, 
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From Patrick.Seriot at SLAV.UNIL.CH  Sun Jan 23 20:58:52 2000
From: Patrick.Seriot at SLAV.UNIL.CH (Patrick.Seriot at SLAV.UNIL.CH)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 21:58:52 +0100
Subject: SEEJ journals for free
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Je médite et te réponds tout à l'heure
Patrick

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From aaanem at FACSTAFF.WM.EDU  Mon Jan 24 15:05:59 2000
From: aaanem at FACSTAFF.WM.EDU (Tony Anemone)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 10:05:59 -0500
Subject: Job announcement
Message-ID: <MON.24.JAN.2000.100559.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Assistant Professor of Russian at The College of William and Mary

Tenure-track position in Russian beginning August 2000. Requirements for
the position: Ph.D., near-native proficiency in Russian and English,
ability to teach Russian language, literature and culture courses. Research
specialization open. Ability to teach interdisciplinary or comparative
courses desirable. Three course per semester teaching load. Send cover
letter, CV, and three references to Dr. Katherine Kulick, Chair, Dept of
Modern Languages and Literatures, The College of William and Mary, PO Box
8795, Williamsburg, VA 23187-8795. Review of applicants will begin Feb 23,
and will continue until the position is filled. The College of William and
Mary is an EO/AA employer.

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From tarn at CHASS.UTORONTO.CA  Mon Jan 24 17:50:53 2000
From: tarn at CHASS.UTORONTO.CA (Maxim Tarnawsky)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:50:53 -0500
Subject: Ukrainian Position in Toronto
Message-ID: <MON.24.JAN.2000.125053.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Just a reminder that the deadline for applications for the position
described below in January 31, 2000, a week away.

Ukrainian Literature and Language


The Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures at the University of
Toronto invites applications for a tenure-stream appointment in Ukrainian
Literature and Language at the rank of Assistant Professor. The appointment
will commence on July 1, 2000.  The successful candidate must have a PhD,
demonstrate promise or significant achievement in research and publication
in a field of Ukrainian literature or Ukrainian language, and show
competence in teaching Ukrainian literature and Ukrainian language.  The
successful candidate will be expected to teach undergraduate and graduate
courses in any or all of the following: Ukrainian literature (both in the
original and in translation) from its origins to the present day,
Ukrainian culture and civilization, and Ukrainian language from beginners'
to advanced levels. Competence in a second field of Slavic literature or
linguistics also required. Familiarity with recent developments in literary
theory and cultural developments in Ukraine will be considered an asset.
Salary:  commensurate with qualifications and experience.

Please send your curriculum vitae, letter of application, and names of
three referees to:  Professor Christopher Barnes, Department of Slavic
Languages and Literatures, 21 Sussex Ave., Toronto, Ontario, M5S 1A1.
Application deadline: 31 January 2000.

In accordance with Canadian immigration requirements, Canadian citizens and
permanent residents will be considered first for this position.

In accordance with its employment equity policy, the University of Toronto
encourages applications from qualified men and women, members of visible
minorities, aboriginal peoples and persons with disabilities.
_____________________________
Maxim Tarnawsky,  tarn at chass.utoronto.ca   (Ìàêñèì Òàðíàâñüêèé)
Canadian Institute of Ukrainian Studies Press
Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures
University of Toronto,  21 Sussex Avenue.   Toronto, Ont. M5S 1A1
tel: 416-978-8240;       FAX: 416-978-2672;       http://www.utoronto.ca/cius

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From elenalev at IX.NETCOM.COM  Tue Jan 25 05:56:32 2000
From: elenalev at IX.NETCOM.COM (Elena Levintova)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:56:32 -0800
Subject: Russian spellchecker
Message-ID: <MON.24.JAN.2000.215632.0800.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Can anybody tell me where I can download a Russian spellchecker for Word 97?
The only place I checked was Aiki Software, and you cannot download it, they
only can send it to you by snail mail, and for Russian they only have it for
Office 97, (i wonder if it will work on mine stand-alone Word 97) and they
don't even give you an email address to ask a question.
I would appreciate any tips.

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From frankdp at EROLS.COM  Tue Jan 25 11:41:08 2000
From: frankdp at EROLS.COM (Frank Poulin)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 06:41:08 -0500
Subject: Free SEEJ offer accepted
Message-ID: <TUE.25.JAN.2000.064108.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Hi All

I've found someone to take my SEEJ journals.  Thanks for the responses.  I'm glad to know that these journals will be put to good use.

Regards, 
Frank

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From r.jiggins at BRADFORD.AC.UK  Tue Jan 25 12:06:30 2000
From: r.jiggins at BRADFORD.AC.UK (Bob Jiggins)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 12:06:30 +0000
Subject: Call for Papers: YU conference
Message-ID: <TUE.25.JAN.2000.120630.0000.>

                        Call for Papers

     The Yugoslav Crisis: evaluating international responses and the way
                            forward

              An international conference at the

     University of Bradford, UK, March 25th and 26th 2000

Webpage: http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/rusees/conference.html
  --------------------------------------------------------------
   Submissions for the conference are invited within the following themes:
  International and strategic issues

  The recent NATO/Yugoslav war has thrown into sharp relief a large number of issues that deserve
  consideration. This is a huge area and we wish to limit topics to the following: an examination of the
  process of NATO and EU enlargement into the Balkans - causes, difficulties and consequences; an
  assessment of the Dayton and Kosovo settlements'; relations within rump' Yugoslavia; and the reasons,
  real or presented, for NATO's actions over the Kosovo crisis and actual and possible consequences for
  the Balkan region.

  Responses to the crisis: NGOs and aid

  The west' in general has involved itself extensively with Yugoslavia in the 1990s. Given the intense
  interest and involvement of many NGOs and charities it is necessary to examine the effectiveness of
  these organizations in the field'. Also needed are examinations of the concepts of civil' society and
  democracy as applied to the Balkans and the role of NGOs and local government in this.

  Challenging the nationalist paradigm

  The predominant perception held within the wider public is that nationalism is responsible for the Wars
  of Yugoslav Sucession. This view is being increasingly challenged and papers that address such issues
  as class and urban/rural relations will be welcomed. Other topics suitable for inclusion in this theme are
  those that examine the role of the Yugoslav media since 1991 - especially the independent media.

  The environment

  Any consideration of the environment generally assumes a very low profile in situations of conflict
  although this has increasingly been highlighted in recent wars (such as the Gulf) and most recently in
  Yugoslavia. Sober assessments of direct and indirect environmental damage caused by bombing are
  needed - to include the bombing of chemical plants, food production systems and similar. Also needed
  are papers examining the short vs long term effects of the war on the whole Balkan region, the often
  forgotten environmental impact of refugees and environmental destruction as a military objective in
  modern warfare. Finally we need to consider the environment as an issue for peace activists and war as
  an issue for environmentalists.

  The economic dimension

  Economics is generally forgotten when explaining the collapse of Yugoslavia and when it is
  remembered answers are generally sought within the rubric of imperialism.We wish to encourage
  contributions that seek to address the economic space within Yugoslavia and examine the connections
  with external phenomena - especially regarding Kosovo. We also need an evaluation of the effectiveness
  and consequences of sanctions on former Yugoslavia, an examination of the relations between state and
  non-state institutions within Yugoslavia, of development strategies' of foreign powers and the effects of
  war. Official prescriptions for the future of Yugoslavia are generally along the lines of the policies
  adopted towards other transition' states - which begs the question of transition from what to what? The
  specific experiences of each transition' state are generally overlooked in the rush to encourage
  marketisation - and in the case of Yugoslavia self-management (long unfashionable)is forgotten. Papers
  that focus on the legacy of self-management and its implications for policy are welcomed.

  Enquiries:

  Enquiries should be made to Bob Jiggins (r.jiggins at bradford.ac.uk or +44(0)1484 329203) or John
  Allcock (j.b.allcock at bradford.ac.uk or +44(0)1274233993). The workinglanguage of the conference will
  be English.

  Abstracts (no more than a side of A4) should be sent by email (preferably) to r.jiggins at bradford.ac.uk ;
  fax to +44(0)1274 720494 or post to the research unit. It is theintention of the organizers to seek
  publication of the papers after the conference.

  Closing date: Friday 18th February 2000

  Workshops

  Organisations who wish to have an official presence at the conference are invited to present their
  perspectives and work, and have this debated, in workshops grouped into the following themes: direct
  aid & organizing aid in Britain; voluntary work and aid abroad; conflict prevention and resolution;
  campaigning, education and peacework in Britain (including town twinning). Enquiries should be made
  to the organizers by email: r.jiggins at bradford.ac.uk, fax: +44(0)7050 644569 or  phone: +44(0)1484
  329203.

--
Bob Jiggins
Research Unit in South East European Studies
University of Bradford
UK
Tel: +44(0)7050 615511
Fax: +44(0)7050 644569
Email: rjiggins at bradford.ac.uk

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From a.jameson at DIAL.PIPEX.COM  Tue Jan 25 16:36:13 2000
From: a.jameson at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Andrew Jameson)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:36:13 -0000
Subject: Fw: Military Schools in the Caucasus
Message-ID: <TUE.25.JAN.2000.163613.0000.>

----------
From: SarahJY at aol.com
To: russian-studies at mailbase.ac.uk
Subject: Military Schools in the Caucasus
Date: 25 January 2000 15:47

Can anybody help?

I saw a brief news item on TV before Christmas (and unfortunately I can't
remember whether I saw it in Britain or Russia) about a traditional military
training school for Cadets in the Caucasus, and am interested in finding out
some more about it.  If anybody could help me with a name or location, or
knows where (or from whom) I might be able to find such information, I would
be very grateful.

Thanks in advance

Sarah Young
Department of Slavonic Studies
University of Nottingham

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From crees at KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU  Tue Jan 25 18:03:35 2000
From: crees at KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU (crees)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 13:03:35 EST
Subject: CFP: Czech and Slovak Studies
Message-ID: <TUE.25.JAN.2000.130335.EST.>

CALL FOR PAPERS:

NEW PERSPECTIVES IN
CZECH AND SLOVAK STUDIES
	a series of special sessions at the
20th WORLD CONGRESS of the
CZECHOSLOVAK SOCIETY OF ARTS AND SCIENCES
	9-13 August 2000
	American University, Washington, DC

Founded in 1958 by Czech and Slovak intellectuals living in exile, the
Czechoslovak Society of Arts and Sciences (Spolecnost pro vedy a umení-SVU)
remains the only international association devoted to Czech and Slovak studies
across the disciplines.  As part of its efforts to support the work of young
scholars, SVU will organize a special series of panels as part of its 20th
World Congress in August 2000 in Washington, DC.  The series of meetings will
allow young scholars in different disciplines, from the United States and
Canada as well as the Czech and Slovak republics, to discuss their research
and exchange ideas on the current issues in the field.  For those graduate
students or junior scholars starting an academic career in Czech and Slovak
studies, the event will be an opportunity to hear the views of, and establish
contacts with, colleagues from North America and Europe who will contribute to
the field for years to come.  Recent Ph.D.'s and graduate students in the
humanities and social sciences are invited to submit proposals for papers.
Panels will include presenters from different disciplines and different
countries.

Themes of the panels will include:
Ethnic Relations and Nationalism
Social and Cultural Consequences of Transition
Czechs, Slovaks, and Europe: Past and Present
Modernism in Czechoslovakia
Creating Democracy: Institutions and Attitudes
Views of the "Former Regime"
Ingredients in Czech and Slovak Identity


Please send a one-page proposal of a paper and a short vita, by 13 March 2000,
to:
Center for Russian and East European Studies
106 Lippincott
University of Kansas
Lawrence, KS 66045
Or, send proposals via e-mail to <crees at kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>

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From mllemily at ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU  Tue Jan 25 19:46:13 2000
From: mllemily at ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU (Emily Tall)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 19:46:13 +0000
Subject: icons
Message-ID: <TUE.25.JAN.2000.194613.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Can anyone enlighten me on the color symbolism in Russian icons? Are the
colors fixed or does the painter have any choice?
    Also, in the Rublev icon of the Trinity, what is the front panel
with the "window" in it? And what are the angels' feet resting on?
Thanks! Emily Tall

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From twc78 at CNSVAX.ALBANY.EDU  Wed Jan 26 04:40:17 2000
From: twc78 at CNSVAX.ALBANY.EDU (Toby Clyman SUNYA Account)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 23:40:17 -0500
Subject: icons
Message-ID: <TUE.25.JAN.2000.234017.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Emily,
    I recommend reading Kandinsky's, The Spiritual in ARt. He talks about
the symbolic use of colors in Icons.
Tanya
-----Original Message-----
From: Emily Tall <mllemily at ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU>
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU <SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 6:47 PM
Subject: icons


Can anyone enlighten me on the color symbolism in Russian icons? Are the
colors fixed or does the painter have any choice?
    Also, in the Rublev icon of the Trinity, what is the front panel
with the "window" in it? And what are the angels' feet resting on?
Thanks! Emily Tall

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From Bjoern.Wiemer at UNI-KONSTANZ.DE  Wed Jan 26 13:38:17 2000
From: Bjoern.Wiemer at UNI-KONSTANZ.DE (Bjoern Wiemer)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:38:17 +0100
Subject: kosnojazychie
Message-ID: <WED.26.JAN.2000.143817.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Hello,

how would you translate Russian 'kosnojazychie' into English? Is it simply
"defect of speech", or is there a more appropriate term?

Best,
        Bjoern Wiemer.


#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#

Dr. Bjoern Wiemer
Universitaet Konstanz
Philosophische Fakultaet / FB Sprachwissenschaft - Slavistik
Postfach 55 60 - D 179
D- 78457 Konstanz

e-mail: Bjoern.Wiemer at uni-konstanz.de
tel.: 07531 / 88- 2582
fax:  07531 / 88- 4007
                - 2741

*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*

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From Philippe.FRISON at COE.INT  Wed Jan 26 13:46:16 2000
From: Philippe.FRISON at COE.INT (FRISON Philippe)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:46:16 +0100
Subject: kosnojazychie
Message-ID: <WED.26.JAN.2000.144616.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Hello!

The scientific English equivalent which I found is 'dyslalia'

Best regards

Philippe FRISON

E-mail: Philippe.Frison at Coe.int
.
Bur. EG 104
Conseil de l'Europe
F - 67075 Strasbourg Cedex


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bjoern Wiemer [SMTP:Bjoern.Wiemer at UNI-KONSTANZ.DE]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 2:38 PM
> To:   SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
> Subject:      kosnojazychie
>
> Hello,
>
> how would you translate Russian 'kosnojazychie' into English? Is it simply
> "defect of speech", or is there a more appropriate term?
>
> Best,
>         Bjoern Wiemer.
>
>
> #+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#
>
> Dr. Bjoern Wiemer
> Universitaet Konstanz
> Philosophische Fakultaet / FB Sprachwissenschaft - Slavistik
> Postfach 55 60 - D 179
> D- 78457 Konstanz
>
> e-mail: Bjoern.Wiemer at uni-konstanz.de
> tel.: 07531 / 88- 2582
> fax:  07531 / 88- 4007
>                 - 2741
>
> *^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*
>
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From as at TICOM.KHARKOV.UA  Wed Jan 26 14:39:33 2000
From: as at TICOM.KHARKOV.UA (Alex)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 16:39:33 +0200
Subject: kosnojazychie
Message-ID: <WED.26.JAN.2000.163933.0200.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Bjoern Wiemer wrote:

> how would you translate Russian 'kosnojazychie' into English? Is it simply
> "defect of speech", or is there a more appropriate term?

In my dictionary there are two terms:

'confused articulation' and 'tongue-tie'

I think 'tongue-tie' is most appropriate.

Best wishes

Alex

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From kenneth.udut at SPCORP.COM  Wed Jan 26 16:57:14 2000
From: kenneth.udut at SPCORP.COM (Udut, Kenneth)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 11:57:14 -0500
Subject: RusEng Dictionary w/words organized by "type"
Message-ID: <WED.26.JAN.2000.115714.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Hello again SEELANGers!

Is there a Russian/English dictionary (or even just
a Russian dictionary w/out English) - which has the
words organized by "type" [I'm sure there is a better
word for this - perhaps declinsion and conjugation
patterns].

For example:

All masc, singular, nominative nouns which
end in ', and follow normal rules, are grouped
together.

All verbs which end in at', and follow the
standard at' declinsion pattern, are grouped
together.

One of my frustrations is not so much with nouns
and adjectives - but with verbs and declension
patterns.

There seems to be definiancy in examples - perhaps
one example, or a small handful, or a few exercises
to help understanding.

But if this is a rule that one needs to learn to
apply to encounters with large numbers of verbs,
it would be helpful to keep the 'regular' verbs
together, all of the ones that follow all of the
rules of the particular conjugation pattern.

Otherwise, each verb needs to be learned dinstinct
and separate, and as a student of Russian, it gets
confusing.

Either print or electronic dictionary would be fine!

-Kenneth

--
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From djbpitt+seelangs at PITT.EDU  Wed Jan 26 17:54:12 2000
From: djbpitt+seelangs at PITT.EDU (David J Birnbaum)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 12:54:12 -0500
Subject: RusEng Dictionary w/words organized by "type"
In-Reply-To: <97A32872DFFED211A62E0008C79168A4FAE285@kenmsg03b.us.schp.com>
Message-ID: <WED.26.JAN.2000.125412.0500.DJBPITTSEELANGS@PITT.EDU>

Dear SEELANGers,

A couple of thoughts about Kenneth's recent message about dictionaries that
group words according to grammatical properties (appended),

For the benefit of those who have not already encountered it, an excellent
print reference more of less of this type (see below for details) is A. A.
Zaliznjak's Grammaticheskii Slovar' Russkogo Iazyka. Briefly:

1. The dictionary contains words followed by columns of index values
pointing to tables that describe the word's grammatical properties. For
example, the dictionary uses its own taxonomy of conjugation patterns, and
each verb has a number listing the relevant properties. There are also
index values for verb aspect, gender and animacy of nouns, and just about
any other inflectional information a linguist or language student might
want to find. There are no definitions (in Russian or English) except where
needed to distinguish homonyms. There is a comment field with notes about
morphological properties that are not easily reduced to index values and
tables.

2. The head words in the dictionary are arranged in alphabetical order from
the *rear* of the word, following the model of the "obratnyi slovar'." That
is, the dictionary begins with words that *end* in "a" and ends with words
that end in "ia". This makes it very easy to find words with similar
endings.

3. The dictionary does not group words by grammatical properties (other
than to the extent that grammatical properties might be determined by the
way the head word ends). But there is an electronic version of this
dictionary, and one can search it for the values from the index columns and
retrieve a list of words that match the query input. For example, to
retrieve all masculine nouns ending in soft signs but no other words ending
in soft signs, one would search for all words ending in soft signs and then
pipe the output of that first search through a second search that would
locate the index values that represent masculine nouns.

Authorized licenses for the electronic version of the dictionary are
available from David Hart at Brigham Young University. You can write to
David directly for more information at david_hart at byu.edu .

Cheers,

David J. Birnbaum
________

> Is there a Russian/English dictionary (or even just
> a Russian dictionary w/out English) - which has the
> words organized by "type" [I'm sure there is a better
> word for this - perhaps declinsion and conjugation
> patterns].
>
> For example:
>
> All masc, singular, nominative nouns which
> end in ', and follow normal rules, are grouped
> together.
>
> All verbs which end in at', and follow the
> standard at' declinsion pattern, are grouped
> together.
>
> One of my frustrations is not so much with nouns
> and adjectives - but with verbs and declension
> patterns.
>
> There seems to be definiancy in examples - perhaps
> one example, or a small handful, or a few exercises
> to help understanding.
>
> But if this is a rule that one needs to learn to
> apply to encounters with large numbers of verbs,
> it would be helpful to keep the 'regular' verbs
> together, all of the ones that follow all of the
> rules of the particular conjugation pattern.
>
> Otherwise, each verb needs to be learned dinstinct
> and separate, and as a student of Russian, it gets
> confusing.
>
> Either print or electronic dictionary would be fine!
>
> -Kenneth
>
> --
> -- Kenneth.Udut at SPCORP.COM
________

Professor David J. Birnbaum
Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures
1417 Cathedral of Learning
University of Pittsburgh
Pittsburgh, PA 15260 USA
Voice: 1 412 624 5712
Fax: 1 412 624 9714
Email: djb at clover.slavic.pitt.edu
URL: http://clover.slavic.pitt.edu/~djb/

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From mllemily at ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU  Wed Jan 26 14:28:47 2000
From: mllemily at ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU (Emily Tall)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:28:47 +0000
Subject: icons
Message-ID: <WED.26.JAN.2000.142847.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I inadvertently deleted the first reply to my message about icons. I
don't remember who you are but you are male and I think the last name
begins with a w. Could you repost your reply! Thanks, and sorry for the
bother. Emily Tall

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From gadassov at WANADOO.FR  Wed Jan 26 20:54:40 2000
From: gadassov at WANADOO.FR (Adassovsky Georges)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:54:40 -0500
Subject: RusEng Dictionary w/words organized by "type"
In-Reply-To: <97A32872DFFED211A62E0008C79168A4FAE285@kenmsg03b.us.schp.com>
Message-ID: <WED.26.JAN.2000.155440.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

>Hello again SEELANGers!
>
>Is there a Russian/English dictionary (or even just
>a Russian dictionary w/out English) - which has the
>words organized by "type" [I'm sure there is a better
>word for this - perhaps declinsion and conjugation
>patterns].

Try Zaliznjak, grammaticeskij slovar' Russkogo jazyka,Moskva, Russkij
jazyk, 1977.
Georges

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From brifkin at FACSTAFF.WISC.EDU  Thu Jan 27 03:23:47 2000
From: brifkin at FACSTAFF.WISC.EDU (Benjamin Rifkin)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:23:47 -0600
Subject: Middlebury Summer 2000
Message-ID: <WED.26.JAN.2000.212347.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear SEELANG-ers:

As the Director of the Russian School of Middlebury College, I am pleased to
inform you of our program for the summer of 2000.  Please share this
information with your students, undergraduate and graduate, who may be
interested in Russian language immersion programming in Summer 2000.
Financial aid is available.  Middlebury is located in Northeastern Vermont,
one hour's drive south of Burlington.

UNDERGRADUATE PROGRAM:  June 9 - August 11, 2000

First- through Fourth-Year Russian:  proficiency oriented instruction, 4
hours in class per day

GRADUATE PROGRAM:  June 26 - August 11, 2000

Colloquial Russian, E. A. Zemskaya (MGU)
Advanced Grammar, N. A. Zhuravlyova (SUNY-Albany)
Stylistics, N. A. Zhuravlyova (SUNY-Albany)
Practical Phonetics, A. I. Leonov (Voronezh State U.)
Slovoobrazovanie, E. A. Zemskaya (MGU)
History of the Russian Language, A. I. Leonov (Voronezh State U.)
Russian History: 1613-1917, D. I. Ungurianu (Vassar)
Russian Intellectual History, L. I. Livak (Grinnell)
History of Russian Film Comedy, G. G. Aksenova (Independent Scholar)
Language of the Social Sciences, N. N. Sadomskaya (RGGU)
Samizdat and Tamizdat, N. N. Sadomskaya (RGGU)
Russian Poetry of the 19th and 20th Centuries, L. I. Livak (Grinnell)
Tolstoy's Novel _War and Peace, D. I. Ungurianu (Vassar)

CO-CURRICULAR PROGRAM

Our co-curricular program includes a theatrical performance, a choir,
soccer, a radio club, a newspaper club, a talent show, and more.

INQUIRIES AND MORE INFORMATION

Please see our web page at

www.middlebury.edu (click on language schools, then on Russian)

OR

Contact me (information in my e-mail signature below).


Sincerely,

Ben Rifkin

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Benjamin Rifkin, Assoc. Prof., Slavic Dept., UW-Madison
1432 Van Hise Hall, 1220 Linden Dr., Madison, WI  53706 USA
voice:  (608) 262-1623; fax:  (608) 265-2814

Director of the Russian School, Middlebury College
Freeman International Center, Middlebury, VT  05753 USA
voice:  (802) 443-5533
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From sipkadan at EROLS.COM  Thu Jan 27 01:00:07 2000
From: sipkadan at EROLS.COM (Danko Sipka)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 20:00:07 -0500
Subject: SerboCroatian-English Colloquial Dictionary
Message-ID: <WED.26.JAN.2000.200007.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear colleagues:
At the page:

http://main.amu.edu.pl/~sipkadan/sample.htm

you can find the introductory text to my SerboCroatian-English
Colloquial Dictionary, and the section A-C from the second draft of the
dictionary. I applied some elements of cognitive and cross-cultural
methodology to the lexicographic treatment in this dictionary.

I would be very grateful for any comments at: sipkadan at erols.com

Sincerely,


Danko Sipka

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From mcarlson at KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU  Thu Jan 27 14:48:59 2000
From: mcarlson at KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU (Maria Carlson)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 08:48:59 -0600
Subject: [Fwd: Summer Institute]
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From yamato at YT.CACHE.WASEDA.AC.JP  Thu Jan 27 15:35:57 2000
From: yamato at YT.CACHE.WASEDA.AC.JP (Yoshimasa Tsuji)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 00:35:57 +0900
Subject: Karamzin concordance.
Message-ID: <FRI.28.JAN.2000.003557.0900.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

An acquaintance of mine, Dr Urai Yasuo has published "A Lemmatized
Concordance to LETTERS OF A RUSSIAN TRAVELER of N.M.Karamzin". It is
an impressive work, but I have had another thought on this.

There is a very useful commercial product by AABBY soft of Moscow that
analyzes a natural language (Russian), parses into parts of speech,
pinpoints to the exact form of the root word. It is incorporated in Lingvo6
and Prompt98 (a russian/english/russian translator). With the help of this
module (it is sold as an API module in a MS Windows environment with a
documentation), I would have thought most of the need for a concordance
could be satisfied.
  Zaliznjak can be a useful tool too when expanded to all the possible
forms: it was indeed the basis of Russian spelling checkers of the first
generation. Today's spelling checkers (notably Stylus and Prompt98, or even
ORFO5) have a limited capability of natural language parsing, and thus far
better than previous versions.

  As for me, a regular expression search is almost always more than adequate
for me to search word usage in classic works (I love to search through the
whole complete works of Chekhov).

Dr Urai works at a LitFak of Hokkaido University. Perhaps you can get
in touch with him by browsing the HomePage of the university.

Cheers,
Tsuji

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From kenneth.udut at SPCORP.COM  Thu Jan 27 17:14:36 2000
From: kenneth.udut at SPCORP.COM (Udut, Kenneth)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:14:36 -0500
Subject: What nobody told me about Russian case/gender/number/tense/person
 endings..
Message-ID: <THU.27.JAN.2000.121436.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I must be slow, sluggish, "sweet but not too bright" as
a friend once told me - but would it be correct to say
that:

The study of Russian case/gender/number/tense/person
endings, is the study of a certain small
handful morphemes, the rules that govern them,
and how to manipulate them?

[or is this a controversial issue?]

If this is so, it would have made life easier from
the start, rather than trying (and usually failing)
to memorize seemingly unconnected endings with
seemingly arbitrary rules.  It's no particular
teacher's fault, of course - just the manner of
presentation in textbooks, self-study guides, etc.

[if this is so, and I hope y'all will be kind
enough to tell me, studying has just been made
100% easier for me.]

Thanks for taking time for this neophyte on this
list where I am really quite out of my league.

--
The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing
at the right time, but also to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the
tempting moment.   -author unknown
[Kenneth Udut   kenneth.udut at spcorp.com  simplify3 at juno.com]

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From kenneth.udut at SPCORP.COM  Thu Jan 27 18:12:43 2000
From: kenneth.udut at SPCORP.COM (Udut, Kenneth)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:12:43 -0500
Subject: Two fundamental questions.
Message-ID: <THU.27.JAN.2000.131243.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Two questions:

1) If you are faced
with a series
of unintelligible sounds,
that you want to understand,
how would you approach
this situation?

How have others approached
this situation in the past?

2) If you are faced
with a series
of letters
on a page,
in an alphabet
that you
do not know,
that you want to understand,
how would you approach
this situation?

How have others approached
this situation in the past?

--
The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing
at the right time, but also to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the
tempting moment.   -author unknown
[Kenneth Udut   kenneth.udut at spcorp.com  simplify3 at juno.com]

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From darancourlaferriere at UCDAVIS.EDU  Thu Jan 27 22:49:27 2000
From: darancourlaferriere at UCDAVIS.EDU (Daniel Rancour-Laferriere)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:49:27 -0800
Subject: Russian icons
Message-ID: <THU.27.JAN.2000.144927.0800.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

27 Jan 00

Dear Colleagues:

Is anyone out there inclined to have a panel on Russian religious icons at
the upcoming AATSEEL meeting in Washington?  If so, please send me an
abstract and I will try to organize a panel in accordance with the
procedures outlined on the AATSEEL conference web site.  Please reply off
list.

Thanks,

Daniel Rancour-Laferriere
Professor of Russian
Director, Russian Program
University of California
One Shields Ave.
Davis, CA 95616

darancourlaferriere at ucdavis.edu


PS. - Emily, on colors in Rublev's Troitsa, see: Leonid Ouspensky and Vl.
Lossky, _The Meaning of Icons_ (Crestwood: St. Vladimir's Seminary Press,
1989), 200-205.  See also the exhaustive bibliography on that icon in vol 1
of the Katalog of the Tretiakovka collection (editor in chief Ia. Bruk, 1995).

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From vbelyanin at MTU-NET.RU  Thu Jan 27 07:53:56 2000
From: vbelyanin at MTU-NET.RU (Valery Belyanin)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:53:56 +0300
Subject: kosnojazychie
Message-ID: <THU.27.JAN.2000.105356.0300.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Kosnojazychije has two meanings:
1. In Ozhegov dictionary it is written that it is wrong pronounciation,
defect of speech.
2. Most people will call it: disability to speak correctly in terms of
grammar and literary style.
I usually say that it is close to_shepeljavost'_
which is a defect of the tong which does not allow to pronounce such
sounds as "s" "sch" "ts" and others (for russian language).

Valery Belyanin, psycholingust.
<vbelyanin at mtu-net.ru>

Bjoern Wiemer wrote:

> Hello,
>
> how would you translate Russian 'kosnojazychie' into English? Is it simply
> "defect of speech", or is there a more appropriate term?
>
> Best,
>         Bjoern Wiemer.
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From reei at INDIANA.EDU  Fri Jan 28 13:18:31 2000
From: reei at INDIANA.EDU (Russian & East European Institute, David L. Ransel, Director)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:18:31 -0500
Subject: Indiana University SWSEEL 2000
Message-ID: <FRI.28.JAN.2000.081831.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

The Indiana University Summer Workshop in Slavic, East European, and
Central Asian Languages (SWSEEL) will take place June 16 - August 11,
2000. This summer's intensive language program will offer first- through
sixth-year Russian; first-year Czech, Polish, Hungarian, Serbian/Croatian,
Romanian, Azeri, Kazak, Turkmen, and Uzbek; second-year Uzbek; and a
special four week program in Russian (June 16 - July 14). Should funding
from external sources become available, first-year Slovene and Georgian as
well as second-year Polish will also be offered.

The application deadline for all languages is March 20, 2000.

Applications for the SWSEEL program may be completed on-line or downloaded
from the SWSEEL web site: http://www.indiana.edu/~iuslavic/swseel.shtml

Paper applications can also be obtained by request from the Slavics
Department. Please reply to this e-mail or contact Jerzy Kolodziej, SWSEEL
Director, or Deborah Kornblau, SWSEEL Secretary, tel: 812-855-2608, fax:
812-855-2107, e-mail: swseel at indiana.edu

A limited number of Foreign Language and Area Studies (FLAS) and Social
Science Research Council (SSRC) fellowships will be awarded to eligible
students. Detailed financial information and instructions for applying for
fellowships are contained in the above web site.

-------

Russian & East European Institute
Ballantine Hall 565, Indiana University, Bloomington, IN 47405
(812)855-7309     (812)855-6411 (fax)
URL: http://www.indiana.edu/~reeiweb

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From mllemily at ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU  Fri Jan 28 16:26:22 2000
From: mllemily at ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU (Emily Tall)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:26:22 +0000
Subject: more on Rublev's Trinity
Message-ID: <FRI.28.JAN.2000.162622.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

    Thanks to those who suggested resources on this. One good one was
Hamilton's "Art and ARchitecture of Russia," but a better one, which I
came upon by serendipity, was in "The ARts of Russia," by Kira
Kornilovich, trans. from the Russian in 1967, vol. 1, pp. 121-124. She
gave the best analysis, from the artistic point of view, that I have
seen. I gave every student a beautiful color reproduction of the icon
(they paid, of course) and had them just sit and look at it and talk
about what they saw, supplemented by my comments.  While I'm at it, you
may be interested in the small book, "Behold the Beauty of the Lord:
Praying with Icons," by Henri J. M. Nouwen, which I encountered at a
Chautauqua workshop led by Father (and Prof.) Anthony Ugol'nik. Cheers
to all. Emily Tall

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From lkeefe at FALCON.CC.UKANS.EDU  Fri Jan 28 21:00:00 2000
From: lkeefe at FALCON.CC.UKANS.EDU (Leann Keefe)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:00:00 -0600
Subject: Maslenitsa scenes in movies
In-Reply-To: <3891C32E.1D17BC27@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Message-ID: <FRI.28.JAN.2000.150000.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I was wondering if someone can tell me if there are any maslenitsa scenes
in Russian movies (or American movies made from Russian novels).

I know that there is one in Sibirskij tsirjul'nik (The Barber of Siberia)
but I don't know if that movie is available in the U.S. yet.

If you know of any scenes please respond to me off list.
Thank you.
Leann Keefe

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From lkeefe at FALCON.CC.UKANS.EDU  Fri Jan 28 21:05:03 2000
From: lkeefe at FALCON.CC.UKANS.EDU (Leann Keefe)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:05:03 -0600
Subject: maslenitsa scenes in movies
In-Reply-To: <3891C32E.1D17BC27@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Message-ID: <FRI.28.JAN.2000.150503.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I was wondering if someone knows of any maslenitsa scenes in Russian
movies (or in American movies made from Russian novels).

I know that there is a good scene in Sibirskij tsirjul'nik (The Barber of
Siberia) but I don't know if that movie is available yet in the U.S.

If you have any suggestions please respond to me off list.

Thanks.

Leann Keefe

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From Cashner at ACTR.ORG  Fri Jan 28 20:48:48 2000
From: Cashner at ACTR.ORG (Catharine Cashner)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:48:48 -0500
Subject: Grant Opportunity:  U.S.-NIS Partners in Education
Message-ID: <FRI.28.JAN.2000.154848.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Grant opportunity

United States*NIS
Partners in Education Program 

The American Councils for International Education is soliciting proposals to host a group of NIS educators in fall 2000. Please write wmorse at actr.org for details about the program.

Short Program Description

The Partners in Education Program (PiE) is administered by the American Councils for International Education: ACTR/ACCELS with funding from United States Information Agency (USIA).

PiE supports democracy-building efforts in the NIS by providing secondary school teachers and school administrators with the opportunity to collaborate with U.S. colleagues in the field of civic education.

Eight to twelve educators from selected regions of the NIS  will travel to the United States, where they will work closely with U.S. counterparts to research and develop curriculum materials.  NIS  educators will focus on U.S. teaching methods in Civics, which may be used at home.

Experts in education and the NIS  will select U.S. host sites in an open competition.  Two U.S. educators from each of the host districts later will visit the communities of NIS partners to solidify long-term partnership ties, and further modify the materials developed during the internship at the host site.

The NIS Participants

Internship participants are selected through an open, merit-based competition in their region.  Each participant must demonstrate high ability in the following areas:  ability to teach civics, innovation in teaching, professionalism, and leadership.  Upon their return home, participants share the knowledge, techniques, materials, and insights gained while on the internship with their colleagues.

Pre-Academic Orientation in Washington, D.C.

Upon arrival in the United States, the educators take part in a five-day orientation and civics education program in Washington, D.C., organized by the American Councils.  In Washington, the American Councils provides a general orientation to the U.S. education system and life in the United States, and arranges a variety of activities, both professional and cultural, related to American studies and civic education, including an overview of U.S. libraries and research tools, meetings with professional organizations, and visits to government and historical sites.  One representative of each host site attends the orientation to interact formally with all participants and make a short presentation on the history of their state.

Internship at Host Site

Following the orientation, each group of participants travel to their host site to take part in a five-week internships, where they observe classes, especially those related to civic education.  Participants also deliver presentations; give lessons or team-teach at the host school or other local schools, parent-teacher organizations, and community groups.  They will engage in program and curriculum development; participate in professional development workshops and in-service training; review and collect teaching materials for use in their home schools; make site visits to other local schools; attend school board meetings; and participate in field trips to municipal and state government institutions and historical sites.

Professional Development Workshops

During the internship period, participants take part in professional development workshops organized by their U.S. host site. The workshops are school district in-service training programs, local university or other institutional professional development programs, or original training programs developed exclusively for PiE educators.

Post-Program Debriefing

participants attend a debriefing workshop, Developing Civic Education in the NIS, in Washington, D.C., at the conclusion of the internship period.  Each NIS group selects an individual to present a synopsis of the materials and lesson plan they developed during the internship.  PiE participants, government officials, and other educators attend the workshop.

Reciprocal Program in the NIS

In the semester following the internship, two U.S. teachers or administrators from each U.S. host school district visit schools in the participants' regions for two weeks.


Funding for the Partners in Education Program comes from the Bureau of Educational and Cultural Affairs of the United States Information Agency under the authority of the Fulbright-Hays Act of 1961, as amended.

William Morse
Program Officer
American Councils
1776 Massachuestts Ave. NW 700
Washington, D.C., 20036
tel. (202) 833-7522
fax. (202) 872-9178

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From kalbj at GWM.SC.EDU  Fri Jan 28 21:28:19 2000
From: kalbj at GWM.SC.EDU (Judith Kalb)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:28:19 -0500
Subject: textbooks for reading Russian
Message-ID: <FRI.28.JAN.2000.162819.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Colleagues,
We are planning to offer a reading Russian course next fall and are looking
into textbooks.  The course will be at the elementary level, rather than
for students with prior knowledge of Russian.  Any suggestions you have
would be much appreciated.
Thank you,
Judith Kalb

Dr. Judith E. Kalb
Assistant Professor of Russian and Comparative Literature
Director of the Russian Program
University of South Carolina
Columbia, SC 29208
phone (803) 777-9615
fax (803) 777-0132
jkalb at sc.edu

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From clogan at ITOL.COM  Sat Jan 29 13:44:15 2000
From: clogan at ITOL.COM (Carol Z. Logan)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 07:44:15 -0600
Subject: map site
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Can anyone recommend an internet site from which I can download a map of
the world that places the Russian land mass in the center of the map (as
does the old Soviet "Politicheskaja Karta Mira"), so that one can see
Russia in its entirety, instead of its being divided into two pieces, as
when North America is in the center.

Thanks. Carol Logan

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From yoo.3 at OSU.EDU  Sat Jan 29 14:00:29 2000
From: yoo.3 at OSU.EDU (Syeng-Mann Yoo)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 09:00:29 -0500
Subject: map site
In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20000129074415.006b8294@itol.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.29.JAN.2000.090029.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

You can tale a look at http://slavophilia.net/russia/refer.htm



At 07:44 AM 1/29/00 -0600, you wrote:
>Can anyone recommend an internet site from which I can download a map of
>the world that places the Russian land mass in the center of the map (as
>does the old Soviet "Politicheskaja Karta Mira"), so that one can see
>Russia in its entirety, instead of its being divided into two pieces, as
>when North America is in the center.
>
>Thanks. Carol Logan
>
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From roman at ADMIN.UT.EE  Sat Jan 29 14:39:22 2000
From: roman at ADMIN.UT.EE (R_L)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 16:39:22 +0200
Subject: map site
In-Reply-To: <200001291345.PAA20025@kadri.ut.ee>
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http://www.lib.utexas.edu/Libs/PCL/Map_collection/world_maps/World_pol98.jpg

R_L

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From mllemily at ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU  Sat Jan 29 11:42:35 2000
From: mllemily at ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU (Emily Tall)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:42:35 +0000
Subject: textbooks for reading Russian
Message-ID: <SAT.29.JAN.2000.114235.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I believe Slavica published such a book by Patricia Arant a while ago. You
might try it. She taught with it at Brown for quite a while, I believe. Emily
Tall

Judith Kalb wrote:

> Dear Colleagues,
> We are planning to offer a reading Russian course next fall and are looking
> into textbooks.  The course will be at the elementary level, rather than
> for students with prior knowledge of Russian.  Any suggestions you have
> would be much appreciated.
> Thank you,
> Judith Kalb
>
> Dr. Judith E. Kalb
> Assistant Professor of Russian and Comparative Literature
> Director of the Russian Program
> University of South Carolina
> Columbia, SC 29208
> phone (803) 777-9615
> fax (803) 777-0132
> jkalb at sc.edu
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From ilon at UT.EE  Mon Jan 31 23:14:19 2000
From: ilon at UT.EE (Ilon Fraiman)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 01:14:19 +0200
Subject: V.E.Vacuro (1935-2000)
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.011419.0200.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

31 janvarja skonchalsja vydajushchijsja filolog Vadim Erazmovich Vacuro,
vedushchij specialist v oblasti istorii russkoj literatury konca XVIII -
pervoj poloviny XIX veka, avtor monografij o poezii, literaturnom byte,
istorii knigi i pressy pushkinskoj pory, a takzhe bol'shogo kolichestva
statej, posvjashchennyh tvorchestvu Pushkina i Lermontova.

http://www.ruthenia.ru/hronika.html

Roman Leibov,
Ilon Fraiman

staff at ruthenia.ru

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From a.jameson at DIAL.PIPEX.COM  Sun Jan 30 12:40:33 2000
From: a.jameson at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Andrew Jameson)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 12:40:33 -0000
Subject: textbooks for reading Russian
Message-ID: <SUN.30.JAN.2000.124033.0000.>

Jules F Levin and Peter Haikalis produced a brilliant
book called "Reading Modern Russian" also published
by Slavica, in 1979. To my mind it is unsurpassed in
applying a "scientific" approach to reading Russian and
it is very well suited to teaching the utilitarian non-humanities
type brain the quickest way into reading Russian. I used it
with a group of mathematicians and it seemed to be
appreciated.
Andrew Jameson
Chair, Russian Committee, ALL
Languages and Professional Development
1 Brook Street, Lancaster LA1 1SL UK
Tel: 01524 32371  (+44 1524 32371)

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From: Emily Tall <mllemily at ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU>
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: Re: textbooks for reading Russian
Date: 29 January 2000 11:42

I believe Slavica published such a book by Patricia Arant a while ago. You
might try it. She taught with it at Brown for quite a while, I believe. Emily
Tall

Judith Kalb wrote:

> Dear Colleagues,
> We are planning to offer a reading Russian course next fall and are looking
> into textbooks.  The course will be at the elementary level, rather than
> for students with prior knowledge of Russian.  Any suggestions you have
> would be much appreciated.
> Thank you,
> Judith Kalb
>
> Dr. Judith E. Kalb
> Assistant Professor of Russian and Comparative Literature
> Director of the Russian Program
> University of South Carolina
> Columbia, SC 29208
> phone (803) 777-9615
> fax (803) 777-0132
> jkalb at sc.edu
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