glokaja / colorless ideas

[Valery Belyanin]

Hlebnikov was earlier.


Tom Priestly wrote:

> Andrew Jameson:
> Rather than "Colorless green ideas" (which has meaningful morphemes in an
> less-than-normally meaningful combination), a better English parallel to
> "glokaja kuzdra" would be "'Twas brillig and the slithy toves did gyre and
> gimble in the wabe," - where you have meaningless (or close-to-meaningless)
> morphemes in a meaningful combination.
> For all:
> I have a question (being very vague when it comes to chronology): which
> came first - "glokaja kuzdra", or the experiments in "sound-poetry" by
> Khlebnikov, Sel'vinskij and others, some of which could have been used by
> Shcherba in his lecture (if the poems antedated the lecture)? Or is there
> some earlier potential Russian source for the one, for the other, or for
> both (e.g., an early Russian translation of 'Jabberwocky'?)
> Tom Priestly
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