Khrushchev's words and his shoe banging

[pjs]

I wouldn't be surprised if our (US) organs of disinformation fabricated
that footage that we all remember seeing.  You know, exactly the same way
they've fabricated the "weapons of mass destruction" that Saddam is
supposed to have.  (Actually what I remember is a photomontage with an
ominous voice over)

Peter Scotto


> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Khrushchev's words and his shoe banging
>
> I am not suggesting that people are having false memories of the shoe
> incident, but the fact that Taubman when discussing whether the incident
> actually took place(!) mentions no video or film record - plus the absence
> from such a clip in various cold war documentaries (like CNN's exhaustive
> Cold War series) - makes me think that no such clip exists. On the other
> hand, the UN scene was reenacted many times, mostly in spoofs both on TV and
> in the movies.
>
> -Rich
>
> Richard Robin, Associate Professor
> German and Slavic Dept.
> The George Washington University
> Washington, DC 20008
> rrobin at gwu.edu
> http://home.gwu.edu/~rrobin
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> From: "Kenneth Brostrom" <ad5537 at WAYNE.EDU>
> To: <SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 6:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Khrushchev's words and his shoe banging
>
>
> > For what it's worth, I also retain this memory.  I'm sure I saw it on
> > television, perhaps more than once.
> >
> > Ken Brostrom
> >
> > >[Richard Robin] > All in all, it's very disappointing to realize that
> none
> > >of this [K's shoe banging] seems to have been captured on tape for
> > >posterity. I always thought that if one searched long enough one could
> find
> > >an old film of the shoe-banging as well as "We will bury you" and "Your
> > >grandchildren..." What a let-down to know that these defining
> Khrushchevian
> > >moments (which actually got me interested in Russian) appear to be lost
> > >forever.
> > >
> > >Although my memory may be in error, I recall seeing the shoe banging more
> > >than once on American television in the early sixties.  The first time
> was
> > >probably the original incident, which took place when my mother's
> parents,
> > >Russian speakers, were visiting my family.  (How grandmother rolled her
> eyes
> > >at K's antics!  "The only good thing the Soviets have done for Russia is
> > >improve education," she said.)  But my recollection is of having seen the
> > >shoe banging at least one other time, perhaps as part of a documentary.
> > >Film or videotape of the incident may very well survive today.
> > >
> > >Ernie Sjogren
> > >
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