khmyr'

[Aizhan Mukanbetkalieva]

It's a sloppy person with morose look: I couldn't find a one-word expression
in English, although there must be one. Hooligans hanging out in subway
stations near Times Square could be called "khmyri". To me, it's usually
people who are up to no good, but then maybe it's just the look
:-).

Aizhan Mukanbetkalieva

>From: Deborah Hoffman <lino59 at AMERITECH.NET>
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>Subject: [SEELANGS] khmyr'
>Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:41:06 -0700
>
>Might I suggest "killjoy" or "wet blanket"?  The
>native speakers will have to confirm whether a khmyr'
>is more of a grump or a loser.
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------
>Date:    Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:42:22 -0500
>From:    Steven Hill <s-hill4 at UIUC.EDU>
>Subject: translating colloquial word
>
>Dear colleagues:
>
>Does anyone out there know a good English equivalent
>for KHMYR'?***  Is
>it possible
>that "Sad Sack" would work?  Or "Poor Sap"?
>
>Although a number of dictionaries I looked at seem not
>to include the
>word at all, I have
>a general impression it means a hapless fellow, a
>loser, someone who
>messes up
>anything he gets into.  In other words, an individual
>who can be
>counted on to snatch
>defeat from the jaws of victory.  If that's so, then
>perhaps it's
>similar to "Sad Sack" or
>"Poor Sap" in English?
>_ _ _  _
>
>  *** In my Russian film studies I've run across this
>curious word, used
>like a name, on
>two  occasions :  (1) SCHASTIE ('35 Medvedkin), where
>Khmyr' is played
>by Petr Zinov'ev);
>(2) DZHENTELMENY UDACHI ('71 Seryi), Khmyr' played by
>the late Georgii
>Vitsin).
>
>Gratefully,
>Steven P Hill,
>University of Illinois.
>_ __ __ _ __ __ __ __ __ __ _ __ _
>
>
>Deborah Hoffman
>Finance Chair, Graduate Student Senate
>Graduate Student - Modern and Classical Language Studies
>Kent State University
>
>http://www.personal.kent.edu/~dhoffma3/index.htm
>
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