Question re "Ubei presidenta"

[Edward M Dumanis]

No way! There is no comparison. There is no talk of violence against our
government except maybe among some fringe groups. Any hatred here against
our current administration leads only to political activities against it
and its allies. Some people are happy, and some are unhappy. This is a
normal healthy political life here, at least, for now. I do not think that
anybody on this list familiar with our political reality can even remotely
see US President as a target of this poem, no matter what political
conviction is held.

Sincerely,

Edward Dumanis <dumanis at buffalo.edu>

On Thu, 26 May 2005, colkitto wrote:

> It reads like a lot of material aimed at the US President (apart from the 
> facial hair!) these days in the US itself (some of the sentiments of which 
> may even have been expressed by subscribers to this list in conversation, in 
> reference to said President!!!!).
> In "liberal democracies" outside the US which enjoy all the relevant 
> freedoms, but do not  have Presidents (e.g., Canada, UK, most Scandinavian 
> countries, Japan, etc.), the target might be seen as the US President, 
> rather than the local head of state.
> Any police inquiries in such countries might themselves be seen as 
> manifestations of unhealthy US influence .........
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Elena Gapova" <e.gapova at WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
> To: <SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 10:54 AM
> Subject: [SEELANGS] Question re "Ubei presidenta"
> 
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> I have a question "inspired" by the poem "Ubei presidenta" by the Belarusian 
> poet Slavamir Adamovich. After its publication (1996) the author was 
> arrested and spent about 10 months in prison, accused, id i am not mistaken, 
> of "prizyv k nasiliyu" (article 182 of the "ugolovnyi kodeks"). After his 
> release, the poet "provel aktsiyu "zashityi rot" (1997), protesting against 
> the assault on the freedom of speech in Belarus.
> 
> The poem is below. I am interested how this (or similar) text would be 
> "dealt with" in liberal democracy: most propbaably, would there be public 
> discussion, or legal action (taking into account the topic of the poem and 
> what it actually calls for), or nothing at all? My question is more about if 
> there is anything in the law re such texts, than  general implications of 
> the first amendment.
> 
> e.g.
> 
> Славамір Адамовіч
> 
> УБЕЙ ПРЕЗИДЕНТА
> 
> Убей эту сволочь, которая
> так гнусно топорщит усы
> над нашими всё же просторами,
> над ликом родимой красы.
> 
> Чем можешь, убей, не раздумывай,
> возьми автомат иль топор
> и вскрой эту голову «умную»,
> и выбрось в клоаку, как сор.
> 
> Убей эту мразь авторучкою,
> иль зонтиком, или «пером»,
> иль вовсе ма-а-аленькой штучкою,
> подброшенной в терпкий ром.
> 
> Убей же врага, чтобы молодость
> твоя не осталась в дерьме,
> чтоб Край наш воспрянул с гордостью
> во славе, а не в ярме!
> 
> Убей аккуратно, дерзостно,
> как может убить лишь Бог,
> покончи геройски с мерзостью
> и выкинь её за парог!
> 
> Очищенный дом беларуский наш,
> проветренный, солнцу представленный,
> он будет закрыт для усатых саш,
> но миру свободному явленный.
> 
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