FW: [SEELANGS] FW: russian psychoanalysts

[Robert Chandler]

Dear all, 

I enclose some information from a friend who has been helping to train
Jungian analysts in both Petersburg and Moscow.

Best Wishes,

Robert

Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] FW: russian psychoanalysts

Dear Robert
Very sad to hear about Liz's mother. These deaths of the older generation
leave huge sorrowful gaps in our lives, even though it is the natural way of
things. How good for her and you that you were able to see a lot of her in
the last years - I imagine you and Liz are comforted by warm memories. My
father died a year ago, and I like remembering and thinking about him, but
it is poignant seeing photos of him. Please give my condolences to Liz.

About Russian psychoanalysts - I only really know about Jungians, probably
not what the questioner is asking. There are 9 Jungian analysts accredited
as members of the IAAP (Intl. Assoc. for Analytical Psychology) - i.e.fully
trained. 6 are in St Petersburg and 3 in Moscow. All trained on our Russian
Revival programme except one who trained in Germany and has returned to
Russia. Several more of our students in both cities are 'routers' towards
IAAP membership, so quite soon we expect the numbers will expand.

I don't know about the Freudian numbers, but I believe there are a small
number, who have trained abroad and returned to Russia. These may be the 18
referred to. I can probably find out and let you know.

The confusion may be that in St Petersburg there is The East European
Institute of Psychoanalysis, and there are equivalent institutes in Moscow
(but I'm more familiar with the St P scene). The graduates of EEIP call
themselves psychoanalysts, but are not recognised by the IPA (International
Psychoanalytical Association) because they are self-taught, i.e.have not had
(enough/ any) analysis and supervision from IPA members. The theoretical
training is pretty sound, but the analysis and supervision that is yet
available locally is obviously lacking in experience and depth, as the
profession was banned until the mid-1990s.

The same strictures apply to the Jungian accreditation by IAAP. Our Jungian
training takes selected graduates from the EEIP and our programme provides
the IAAP analysis and supervision, before they take international exams and
have interviews to establish the standard of their work. Because we believe
it is important to encourage a local community of analysts, we have done the
work there, not invited people to study here. Hence, labour and cost
intensive over the past 10 years! But we are seeing the fruits of our
labours come through now, and there will soon be a recognised Russian
Society for Analytical Psychology.

We are in the throes of rewriting our Russian Revival website, but some
basic information can be found at www.russianrevival.co.uk

Hope that is helpful. Have a good summer!

Love
Catherine




----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Chandler" <kcf19 at dial.pipex.com>
To: "catherine crowther" <c.s.crowther at talk21.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 6:39 AM
Subject: FW: [SEELANGS] FW: russian psychoanalysts


> Dear Catherine,
>
> Several questions about Russian psychoanalysis have been asked on an email
> discussion group to which I belong.  Have you got time and energy to
> answer
> them?  If so, I suggest you send a message to me and I'll forward it to
> the
> various parties.
>
> I hope all is well with you and Jan!
>
> Liz's mother died at the end of May - a great loss for both of us.  We had
> been seeing a lot of her since the death of her husband 3 years before.
>
> with Love,
>
> Robert
>
> ------ Forwarded Message
> From: Inna Caron <caron.4 at OSU.EDU>
>
> Dear Bob Mann and Natalia Fitzgibbons,
>
> Thank you both for the response, but once again, I merely served as a
> transfer of this inquiry between the two listserves (SEELANGS and
> PSYART) in lieu of DRL who would normally do the honors. Anyone who has
> the requested information - please include PSYART at LISTS.UFL.EDU and/or
> s.leibovici at chello.nl in the address line.
>
> In the meantime, this post was added to the string:
>
> From: Saundra Segan [mailto:smsegan at EARTHLINK.NET]
>    Subject: RE: FW: russian psychoanalysts
>
>    Dear Solange,
> I always wondered about the level of training of the psychoanalysts we
> met
> in St. Petersburg.
> So remember there is that issue as well.
>    Saundra Segan
>
>>     From: Solange Leibovici [mailto:s.leibovici at chello.nl]
>>     Subject: russian psychoanalysts
>>
>>     Hi,
>>
>>     I just read in a serious Dutch weekly magazine that there are
>> only 18 psychoanalysts in Russia. We've met psychoanalysts when the
>> Conference took place in Petersburg so I don't believe it. Can anyone
>> give me the right number?
>>     Best regards,
>>     Solange
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> 


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