"teatr - kiyater" (cont.)

[Prof Steven P Hill]

 Dear colleagues & Prof Trubikhina: 

I suppose "thuh the-AY-ter" (4 syllables) is better than any other 
possibility.  But if Trubikhina prefers not use Braithwaite's excellent 
suggestion after all, then she might consider using a phrase like 
"Goin' to thuh Show" (5 syllables). 

Best wishes to all, 
Steven P Hill, 
University of Illinois. 
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Date: Sun 22 Apr 02:06:31 CDT 2007 
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Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 14:38:10 -0400 
From: trubikhina at AOL.COM 
Subject: Translation query 

Hi, 
I am translating a review of an early futurist art exhibition for a 
publication. One of the dismissive descriptions that the author 
is using is "kiyater," which is the "prostonarodnoe" or criminal 
slang word for "teatr" (theater). It is used ironically obviously, 
and such use of "kiyater" can also be encountered in satirical 
pieces by Teffi or in the actual or stylized speech of Gilyarovsky's 
criminal characters. What would be a distorted English word that 
an uneducated person of that time (late 19th-early 20th century) 
might have used? 

Thank you, 
Julia Trubikhina 
Assistant Professor of Russian 
Montclair State University 
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Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 12:16:26 -0700 
From: Kim Braithwaite <kbtrans at COX.NET> 
Subject: Re: Translation query 

Possibly the-AY-ter might work. In the prosto socioeconomic milieu 
of my boyhood that's the way we pronounced it until Miss Fidditch 
corrected us in the fifth grade, wielding her ruler across the knuckles. 
And there was a semi-popular song about a burlesque show ("Take 
it off!") whose meter required that pronunciation. Just a thought. 
Mr Kim Braithwaite, Translator 
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