From kyst at HUM.KU.DK  Mon Jan  1 14:49:40 2007
From: kyst at HUM.KU.DK (Jon Kyst)
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 15:49:40 +0100
Subject: AAASS 2007 panel on modern Russian poetry
In-Reply-To: <C1ED30A1-B689-4D6A-8204-13F01C4A0084@mimectl>
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Dear SEELANGers,

I would like to organize a panel on modern Russian poetry, perhaps more
specifically on younger St. Petersburg poets. Please get in touch with
off-list me asap if you are interested in presenting a paper (keep in mind
the Jan 12 deadline).

Best regards,

Jon Kyst
Lecturer, PhD
Department of Slavic and East European Studies
University of Copenhagen 
Email: kyst at hum.ku.dk

  

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From eric.laursen at M.CC.UTAH.EDU  Mon Jan  1 16:22:49 2007
From: eric.laursen at M.CC.UTAH.EDU (eric r laursen)
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 09:22:49 -0700
Subject: AAASS Panel on Fantastic
In-Reply-To: <024e01c72d55$d579fc40$e2f7fea9@left>
Message-ID: <MON.1.JAN.2007.092249.0700.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Sure.  Science fiction would be great.  Do you have a specific project in mind?  --Eric



From: Alex
Sent: Sun 12/31/2006 2:54 PM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] AAASS Panel on Fantastic


Hello, Eric

Any "Fantastic"? Science fiction too?

Alex S


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To: <SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 10:26 PM
Subject: [SEELANGS] AAASS Panel on Fantastic


I would like to organize a panel on the Fantastic (in literature and/or
film) for AAASS 2007.   If you are interested in presenting a paper or
serving as chair or discussant, please let me know as soon as possible (the
deadline for submitting the panel is Jan. 12).  --Eric Laursen

Eric Laursen
Associate Professor
Department of Languages and Literature
University of Utah

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From kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM  Tue Jan  2 06:01:35 2007
From: kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Robert Chandler)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 06:01:35 +0000
Subject: Iskander and Stalin
Message-ID: <TUE.2.JAN.2007.060135.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear all,

I’m teaching a course for the first time on post-Stalin literature.  SANDRO
OF CHEGEM will be a set text.  Iskander’s portraits of Stalin and his
entourage are memorable.  In case any students want to make comparisons,
what other good portraits of these people are there in Russian literature?
I’m not well read in this period and I know only of a chapter in THE FIRST
CIRCLE, a chapter in LIFE AND FATE, and a section of Grossman’s wonderful
story ‘Mama’.

And while I’m about it, does this seem like a good choice of extracts from
SANDRO?  Any other chapter anyone would esp. recommend?
Sandro of Chegem (САНДРО ИЗ ЧЕГЕМА)
Gamblers (ИГРОКИ)
Belshazzar's Feasts (ПИРЫ БАЛТАСАРА)
Old Khabag's Mule (РАССКАЗ МУЛА СТАРОГО ХАБУГА )

Best wishes to all of you for 2007!

Robert




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From gianpaolo.gandolfo at FASTWEBNET.IT  Tue Jan  2 15:59:28 2007
From: gianpaolo.gandolfo at FASTWEBNET.IT (Giampaolo Gandolfo)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 16:59:28 +0100
Subject: problems with cyrillic o line when using a Mac
Message-ID: <TUE.2.JAN.2007.165928.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I am using Linguist's Software for my Mac (OS X.4).
    But when I open one of the Cyrillic texts, for example, from the "Basic Electonic Library"  I have many problems.  For instance, often for older texts I get letter nonsense or I am missing the "jat'".  This is frustrating.  It seem to be a Mac problem (?)    How do I get the Cyrillic to be reproduced properly when I go on line?
    Thanks
                Giampaolo Gandolfo

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From sbauckus at EARTHLINK.NET  Tue Jan  2 16:45:08 2007
From: sbauckus at EARTHLINK.NET (Susan Bauckus)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 08:45:08 -0800
Subject: Middlebury Inter-institutional Russian Pedagogy Workshop,
 June 23-28, 2007
Message-ID: <TUE.2.JAN.2007.084508.0800.>

Greetings,
Could you please note the following announcement and share it with interested colleagues. To submit an electronic application, follow the link found at: http://www.international.ucla.edu/languages/middlebury/. Applications are submitted electronically, and the deadline is February 1, 2007.

Thank you,
Susan Bauckus
UCLA Center for World Languages
****


Inter-institutional Summer Immersion Russian Pedagogy Workshop
June 23-28, 2007 Middlebury College 

This workshop is co-sponsored by the following Title VI Centers: the UCLA Center for World Languages, the University of Kansas Center for Russian, East European and Eurasian Studies, the National Capital Language Resource Center (jointly directed by Georgetown University, George Washington University, and the Center for Applied Linguistics), and the University of Wisconsin-Madison Center for Russia, East Europe and Central Asia, with additional support from Middlebury College, and will be held on the Middlebury campus. About a dozen workshop participants will be given a stipend covering travel, lodging and food to come to Middlebury for classes on cutting edge pedagogy including the following topics: 
�                      Enhanced input approaches to teaching (William Comer, University of Kansas), 
�                      Heritage learners in the Russian curriculum (Olga Kagan, UCLA), 
�                      Using technology for teaching listening and reading (Richard Robin, George Washington University), 
�                      Teaching at the advanced level (Benjamin Rifkin, Temple University). 
 
The program is designed to meet the needs of college-level instructors of Russian; participants may be tenured or tenure-track faculty, lecturers, or graduate student teaching assistants. In addition to the workshop, participants will have opportunities to observe instruction at a leading Russian-language summer program in the US and participate in the cultural programming of the Middlebury Russian School. Participants are required to observe and support the Middlebury Language Pledge while on campus; class sessions will be conducted in Russian. Faculty and participants arrive on Saturday, June 23, 2007 and depart the Middlebury campus by noon on Thursday, June 28, 2007.
Applications must be submitted electronically by February 1, 2007. To apply, to go http://www.international.ucla.edu/languages/middlebury/ and click on the �application form� link found on the right-hand side of the page. 

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From eric.laursen at M.CC.UTAH.EDU  Tue Jan  2 17:26:13 2007
From: eric.laursen at M.CC.UTAH.EDU (eric r laursen)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 10:26:13 -0700
Subject: Iskander and Stalin
In-Reply-To: <C1BFA5BF.B964%kcf19@dial.pipex.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.2.JAN.2007.102613.0700.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

There's a Voinovich short story in the Penguin 20th Century anthology entitled "Circle of Friends."



From: Robert Chandler
Sent: Mon 1/1/2007 11:01 PM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: [SEELANGS] Iskander and Stalin


Dear all,

I'm teaching a course for the first time on post-Stalin literature.  SANDRO
OF CHEGEM will be a set text.  Iskander's portraits of Stalin and his
entourage are memorable.  In case any students want to make comparisons,
what other good portraits of these people are there in Russian literature?
I'm not well read in this period and I know only of a chapter in THE FIRST
CIRCLE, a chapter in LIFE AND FATE, and a section of Grossman's wonderful
story 'Mama'.

And while I'm about it, does this seem like a good choice of extracts from
SANDRO?  Any other chapter anyone would esp. recommend?
Sandro of Chegem (САНДРО ИЗ ЧЕГЕМА)
Gamblers (ИГРОКИ)
Belshazzar's Feasts (ПИРЫ БАЛТАСАРА)
Old Khabag's Mule (РАССКАЗ МУЛА СТАРОГО ХАБУГА )

Best wishes to all of you for 2007!

Robert




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From dpbrowne at MAC.COM  Tue Jan  2 18:05:08 2007
From: dpbrowne at MAC.COM (Devin Browne)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 13:05:08 -0500
Subject: Is there an *easy* kutya recipe out there?
Message-ID: <TUE.2.JAN.2007.130508.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

We're planning a Russian Christmas celebration for Friday and I'd like to
include kutya, but all the recipes seem like they take so long to make (I am
not a whiz in the kitchen at all!).  Is there an easy recipe out there?
Something that can be made more quickly perhaps?  Someone suggested there
might be a crock pot recipe out there for it, but I haven't found anything
on the internet.  Maybe it's blasphemous to include kutya and crock pots in
the same sentence??  :-)

If you can help, please contact me at dpbrowne at mac.com

Thanks!
Devin
(aka Divan)

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From benjamin.rifkin at TEMPLE.EDU  Tue Jan  2 18:23:46 2007
From: benjamin.rifkin at TEMPLE.EDU (Benjamin Rifkin)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 13:23:46 -0500
Subject: problems with cyrillic o line when using a Mac
In-Reply-To: <000a01c72e86$fc028f30$0201a8c0@portatile>
Message-ID: <TUE.2.JAN.2007.132346.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Giampolo and other Mac users:

Mac OS X has Cyrillic fonts built into it.  I suspect that your Linguists'
Software may not be loading Unicode compliant Cyrillic fonts.  When you are
using the Unicode fonts, you should have no trouble reading the websites.
See

http://www.friends-partners.org/partners/rusmac/

for more information.

I am not sure where the Jat is, however, in these standardized fonts.

Sincerely,

Ben Rifkin


On 1/2/07 10:59 AM, "Giampaolo Gandolfo" <gianpaolo.gandolfo at FASTWEBNET.IT>
wrote:

> I am using Linguist's Software for my Mac (OS X.4).
>     But when I open one of the Cyrillic texts, for example, from the "Basic
> Electonic Library"  I have many problems.  For instance, often for older texts
> I get letter nonsense or I am missing the "jat'".  This is frustrating.  It
> seem to be a Mac problem (?)    How do I get the Cyrillic to be reproduced
> properly when I go on line?
>     Thanks
>                 Giampaolo Gandolfo
> 
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Professor of Russian and Vice Dean for Undergraduate Affairs
College of Liberal Arts, Temple University
1206 Anderson Hall, 1114 W. Berks St.
Philadelphia, PA 19122 USA
Voice 215-204-1816
Fax 215-204-3731
www.temple.edu/cla
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From Shuffelton at AOL.COM  Tue Jan  2 21:06:32 2007
From: Shuffelton at AOL.COM (Jane Shuffelton)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 16:06:32 EST
Subject: Iskander and Stalin
Message-ID: <TUE.2.JAN.2007.160632.EST.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

How about Vasily Aksyonov's Generations of Winter (Moskovskaya Saga).   It 
has become one of my favorite novels, and I am now deeply engrossed in the  
filmed version on dvd.
 
It sounds like a fascinating course.
 
Jane Shuffelton
President, ACTR

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From cllazm at HOFSTRA.EDU  Tue Jan  2 21:23:24 2007
From: cllazm at HOFSTRA.EDU (Alexandar Mihailovic)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 16:23:24 -0500
Subject: Other Mac Cyrillic Woes (Fonts With Stress Marks?)
Message-ID: <TUE.2.JAN.2007.162324.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear SEELANGovsty:

On a related Cyrillic MacIntosh note, I have had a hard time locating a recent (i.e., System X-
compatible) font  where one can easily place an accent mark over any vowel.  The so-called Accented 
Cyrillic font is extremely limited, and doesn't permit free manipulation of diacritical marks.  Does 
anyone know of a collection of Mac Cyrillic fonts (either free on-line or for purchase) that includes 
such a feature, which would obviously be very useful for putting together supplementary materials 
for language classes?

Alexandar Mihailovic

*************************************
Alexandar Mihailovic
Professor of Russian and Comparative Literature
Calkins Hall, room 312b
Hofstra University
Hempstead,  NY 11549
(516) 463-5435
FAX: (516) 463-7082

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From kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM  Tue Jan  2 21:25:31 2007
From: kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Robert Chandler)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 21:25:31 +0000
Subject: Iskander and Stalin
In-Reply-To: <cb1.7aed70c.32cc2358@aol.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.2.JAN.2007.212531.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Thanks very much - I haven't read this.

Best Wishes,

Robert






> How about Vasily Aksyonov's Generations of Winter (Moskovskaya Saga).   It
> has become one of my favorite novels, and I am now deeply engrossed in the
> filmed version on dvd.
>  
> It sounds like a fascinating course.
>  
> Jane Shuffelton
> President, ACTR
> 
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From katilahti at YAHOO.COM  Tue Jan  2 22:03:55 2007
From: katilahti at YAHOO.COM (Katherine Lahti)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 14:03:55 -0800
Subject: problems with cyrillic o line when using a Mac
In-Reply-To: <000a01c72e86$fc028f30$0201a8c0@portatile>
Message-ID: <TUE.2.JAN.2007.140355.0800.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

The Linguist's software is probably not part of the
solution. 

It may be an encoding issue for the WWW, though I
don't know about the missing jats. The older texts are
probaly in KOI-8 encoding. 

Go to View —>Text Encoding and flip through the 4
options until the text is readable. That's what I do.


--- Giampaolo Gandolfo
<gianpaolo.gandolfo at FASTWEBNET.IT> wrote:

> I am using Linguist's Software for my Mac (OS X.4).
>     But when I open one of the Cyrillic texts, for
> example, from the "Basic Electonic Library"  I have
> many problems.  For instance, often for older texts
> I get letter nonsense or I am missing the "jat'". 
> This is frustrating.  It seem to be a Mac problem
> (?)    How do I get the Cyrillic to be reproduced
> properly when I go on line?
>     Thanks
>                 Giampaolo Gandolfo
> 
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From jack.franke at GMAIL.COM  Tue Jan  2 22:51:21 2007
From: jack.franke at GMAIL.COM (Jack Franke)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 14:51:21 -0800
Subject: Other Mac Cyrillic Woes (Fonts With Stress Marks?)
In-Reply-To: <LISTSERV%200701021623241870.04B4@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
Message-ID: <TUE.2.JAN.2007.145121.0800.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Alexandar:

I have found the company Paratype to be very helpful with accented cyrillic
fonts <http://www.paratype.com/>. You can see samples of all their fonts
online.

A couple of years ago a program called Slavyanski 1.2 was developed in
Russia for Mac OS X.3 and above. It can place accents on any glyph, and in
any direction.

You can also download Apple Russian fonts from their web site in Moscow:
<http://www.apple.ru/download/?ext_fonts>. If you need accented vowels, use
the "show character palette"(where the flag is in the menu once you select a
2nd keyboard in System Preferences), type the vowel, and then select
'combining diacritical marks', and the vowel will be accented.

All the best,

Jack Franke

*********************************
Jack Franke, Ph.D., Professor of Russian
Coordinator, Russian Department C
European and Latin American School
Defense Language Institute Foreign Language Center
Monterey, CA 93944




On 1/2/07, Alexandar Mihailovic <cllazm at hofstra.edu> wrote:
>
> Dear SEELANGovsty:
>
> On a related Cyrillic MacIntosh note, I have had a hard time locating a r
> ecent (i.e., System X-
> compatible) font  where one can easily place an accent mark over any vowe
> l.  The so-called Accented
> Cyrillic font is extremely limited, and doesn't permit free manipulation
> of diacritical marks.  Does
> anyone know of a collection of Mac Cyrillic fonts (either free on-line or
> for purchase) that includes
> such a feature, which would obviously be very useful for putting together
> supplementary materials
> for language classes?
>
> Alexandar Mihailovic
>
> *************************************
> Alexandar Mihailovic
> Professor of Russian and Comparative Literature
> Calkins Hall, room 312b
> Hofstra University
> Hempstead,  NY 11549
> (516) 463-5435
> FAX: (516) 463-7082
>
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From paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM  Wed Jan  3 00:29:55 2007
From: paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM (Paul B. Gallagher)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 19:29:55 -0500
Subject: problems with cyrillic o line when using a Mac
In-Reply-To: <C1C00D62.D6D7%benjamin.rifkin@temple.edu>
Message-ID: <TUE.2.JAN.2007.192955.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Benjamin Rifkin wrote:

> Dear Giampolo and other Mac users:
> 
> Mac OS X has Cyrillic fonts built into it.  I suspect that your Linguists'
> Software may not be loading Unicode compliant Cyrillic fonts.  When you are
> using the Unicode fonts, you should have no trouble reading the websites.
> See
> 
> http://www.friends-partners.org/partners/rusmac/
> 
> for more information.
> 
> I am not sure where the Jat is, however, in these standardized fonts.

According to the Windows applet Character Map, "Ѣ" (capital yat') is at 
position U+0642, and "ѣ" (small yat') is at position U+0643 in the 
Unicode table.

-- 
War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
--
Paul B. Gallagher
pbg translations, inc.
"Russian Translations That Read Like Originals"
http://pbg-translations.com

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From ad2262 at COLUMBIA.EDU  Wed Jan  3 01:10:12 2007
From: ad2262 at COLUMBIA.EDU (Anna Dvigubski)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 20:10:12 -0500
Subject: travel to russia
Message-ID: <TUE.2.JAN.2007.201012.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

dear all:

an undergraduate student asked me about travelling to russia this
upcoming spring for a week. he has never gone there previously and
has had three semesters of russian. he doesn't know how to go about
planning his trip, where and what to look for, and frankly, neither
do i (as i haven't travelled to russia in several years.)
could anyone perhaps recommend a starting point, maybe some sort of
student travel groups or tours travelling to moscow/st. petersburg
from the new york area? i would appreciate any tips/ advice.

thank you and best wishes in the new year.

anna dvigubski,
columbia university

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From ggerhart at COMCAST.NET  Wed Jan  3 03:54:29 2007
From: ggerhart at COMCAST.NET (Genevra Gerhart)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 19:54:29 -0800
Subject: travel to russia
In-Reply-To: <1167786612.459b027476db3@cubmail.cc.columbia.edu>
Message-ID: <TUE.2.JAN.2007.195429.0800.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Tell him from me: he doesn't know enough to go much of anywhere. He is
expecting expend a large amount of money for a relatively small exposure
(one week!). He should not be asking you to do his dirty work. Tell him to
find out for himself.

Best wishes for the New Year to everybody,

Genevra Gerhart
 
ggerhart at comcast.net
 
www.genevragerhart.com
www.russiancommonknowledge.com
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
[mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of Anna Dvigubski
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 5:10 PM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: [SEELANGS] travel to russia

dear all:

an undergraduate student asked me about travelling to russia this
upcoming spring for a week. he has never gone there previously and
has had three semesters of russian. he doesn't know how to go about
planning his trip, where and what to look for, and frankly, neither
do i (as i haven't travelled to russia in several years.)
could anyone perhaps recommend a starting point, maybe some sort of
student travel groups or tours travelling to moscow/st. petersburg
from the new york area? i would appreciate any tips/ advice.

thank you and best wishes in the new year.

anna dvigubski,
columbia university

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From shatsev at HOTMAIL.COM  Wed Jan  3 05:29:36 2007
From: shatsev at HOTMAIL.COM (Vladimir Shatsev)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 00:29:36 -0500
Subject: Iskander and Stalin
In-Reply-To: <C1BFA5BF.B964%kcf19@dial.pipex.com>
Message-ID: <WED.3.JAN.2007.002936.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Robert,

Here is the list of writings about Stalin which comes to my mind right now.
1.Island Crimea by Aksyonov.It is the satirical essay written by Luchnikov  
to the anniversary of Stalin.
2.Generations of Winter by the same Vasily Palich.The chapter in the 2nd 
volume where is depicted the meeting of Zhukov with members of Politbyuro on 
the platform of Subway station at the beginning of the Great Patriotic War.+ 
Some other episodes in the same volume  where we can meet Our Chief and 
Teacher accompanied by his satanic retinue.
3.The Poem about Stalin by Galich(if it is available in translation).

4.The Pretender  on the Throne by Voinovich .The chapter where Stalin and 
Hitler simultaneously contemplate about Chonkin as count Golitsin  and the 
leader of undeground anti-Soviet  resistance.
5. Among Iskander�s stories I remember the one about fishing in the mountain 
river.
6.I have never read Bulgakov�s Batum,but  I have read some unexpected 
interpretations of this play written by critic Smelyansky .

If I were you, Robert ,I would also consider some small poems, not songs,of 
Okudzhava  about Stalin as well as Bulat�s autobiography Uprazdnenniy Teatr 
.
Stalin was responsible was the death of Shalva Okudzava,however in the book 
we can find the writers opinions why his parents were responsible for 
Stalinizm.
If I were you I would strongly recommend to my students to read The Great 
Terror by Conquest.The Legend of Grand Inquisitor by Dostoevsky as well as 
the works of Orwell are also might be considered as a required reading.
I also think that the collection of poetry  such as Rodnomu Stalinu  would 
entertain your students and inspire them to think  why for example Akmatova 
or young Tvardovsky could write such apologetic poetry.Let� s also not 
firget about Mandelshtam�s anti-Stalin epigram and Mandelashtam�s pro- 
stalin poetry.
The poetry of the Magnificent Three (Voznesensky, Evtushenko, and probably 
Rozhdestvensky)would also be considered if they are available in 
translation.

The dozens of volumes of pseudo-historian  Georgy Suvorov (I doubt whether 
they have been translated or not) convince the reader  how really great 
Stalin was and how great purge  was absolutely necessary for the sake the 
victory in the War(??!!).However I believe that the works of  this 
�historian �  and  hypnotist are far from the area of the special field of 
your interest.
Sorry for the chaos in my letter. The topic is very important, but it is too 
late to be precise at the moment.





Regards,

Vladimir Shatsev

Language and Drama Teacher

Russian House Community Centre www.russianhouse.ca

Phone.: 416-236-5563
Cell : 416-333-1840

Email: vladimir.shatsev at russianhouse.ca




>From: Robert Chandler <kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
>Reply-To: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list              
><SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
>To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
>Subject: [SEELANGS] Iskander and Stalin
>Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 06:01:35 +0000
>
>Dear all,
>
>I�m teaching a course for the first time on post-Stalin literature.  SANDRO
>OF CHEGEM will be a set text.  Iskander�s portraits of Stalin and his
>entourage are memorable.  In case any students want to make comparisons,
>what other good portraits of these people are there in Russian literature?
>I�m not well read in this period and I know only of a chapter in THE FIRST
>CIRCLE, a chapter in LIFE AND FATE, and a section of Grossman�s wonderful
>story �Mama�.
>
>And while I�m about it, does this seem like a good choice of extracts from
>SANDRO?  Any other chapter anyone would esp. recommend?
>Sandro of Chegem (������ �� ������)
>Gamblers (������)
>Belshazzar's Feasts (���� ���������)
>Old Khabag's Mule (������� ���� ������� ������ )
>
>Best wishes to all of you for 2007!
>
>Robert
>
>
>
>
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From jwilson at ALINGA.COM  Wed Jan  3 09:58:16 2007
From: jwilson at ALINGA.COM (Josh Wilson)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 12:58:16 +0300
Subject: travel to russia
Message-ID: <WED.3.JAN.2007.125816.0300.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Anna, 

I have to agree with Geneva that one week is an awfully small amount of time to travel and will afford the least exposure for the maximum amount of money. He will have time to come back absolutely loving Russia – or hating it.  But understanding it (or even really picking up much language practice) is far from possible. 

However, curiosity is always to be rewarded in my book – so here are a few things I would recommend:

1) With one week, he should not plan to see much more than Moscow, St. Pete, and maybe someplace in-between (maybe Sergeiv Posod if interested in religion – maybe Novgorod if interested in history). 
2) Recommended hostel in Moscow – Sweet Moscow; Recommended hostel in St. Pete – NORD.  Both can be found with google searches. Location and price are fantastic. 
3) There is a new travel agency in Moscow that specializes in English-speaking service and tours for foreigners.  They are called TravelPartners (www.travelpartners.ru). For now, I can only say that the concept of the business, and that I know that the man who runs it has been around Russia for awhile and seems like a nice guy, makes it a reasonable place to check out.  Ask me in another month when my tickets for Ekaterinburg have been processed and purchased from them and I can say something with greater certainty.  ☺ 
4) Another website to check out is www.expat.ru.  The site is great for networking, and he likely can find some folks (Russians and expats) to hang out with while he is here. Tell him to make a general post in the introductions, café, or travel folders.  But please, tell him not to sound too naïve or to make silly generalizations about foreigners or Russians there or he will be eaten alive by people who have heard it all too often before. 
5) A last website I would recommend is http://www.cheap-moscow.com/. It’s run by this crazy Russian guy, “Uncle Pasha” who at times can seem like the best friend you ever had and at times like a callous jerk (usually when he senses that you need to be “taught” something about Russia).  But his site is a great place to find accommodation, language exchange, cheap domestic tickets, and more. If your student does contact this man, tell him to do some research beforehand and have something specific to request (same with expat.ru, actually – tell him to name SPECIFIC interests he wants info on – asking “what should I do in Moscow” will get him generally nowhere). Pasha can provide the service and product, but he doesn’t do much in the way of advice or planning for you.  His personality doesn’t seem to get in the way of his ability to provide such services and products, by the way.  ;) 
6) Tell him to expect an adventure!  

I hope that helps to some small extent! 

Josh Wilson
Asst. Director
The School of Russian and Asian Studies
Editor-in-Chief
Vestnik, The Journal of Russian and Asian Studies
www.sras.org
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From gianpaolo.gandolfo at FASTWEBNET.IT  Wed Jan  3 10:02:10 2007
From: gianpaolo.gandolfo at FASTWEBNET.IT (Giampaolo Gandolfo)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 11:02:10 +0100
Subject: my thanks
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Dearest Seelangers,

My heartfelt thanks to all who provided me with such useful information on the problem of Cyrillic when online.  I appreciate your help very much.

Sincerely,
Giampaolo Gandolfo

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From ah69 at COLUMBIA.EDU  Wed Jan  3 10:53:27 2007
From: ah69 at COLUMBIA.EDU (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andy_Hicks?=)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 05:53:27 -0500
Subject: Iskander and Stalin
Message-ID: <WED.3.JAN.2007.055327.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

It's possible that your students may also need to read some pre-Thaw
official portraits for context.  If so, it's hard to go wrong with Petr
Pavlenko:  Schast'e's depiction of Stalin and Molotov in the garden (while
on break from the Yalta conference) is a classic, and an earlier passage in
which an apparation of the Leader is seen at Stalingrad might also be helpful.

Pavlenko also collaborated on the screenplay for Padenie Berlina, the Stalin
scenes of which could function as a quick introduction to the period's
iconography.  I've found the film useful to open up discussions of
Shostakovich's and Mikheil Gelovani's artistic fates under Stalinism as well.


Andy Hicks

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From J.Dunn at SLAVONIC.ARTS.GLA.AC.UK  Wed Jan  3 10:53:56 2007
From: J.Dunn at SLAVONIC.ARTS.GLA.AC.UK (John Dunn)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 11:53:56 +0100
Subject: Other Mac Cyrillic Woes (Fonts With Stress Marks?)
Message-ID: <WED.3.JAN.2007.115356.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

The 'combining character' facility can be used with any of the Cyrillic fonts that come supplied with the OS.  To save a lot of messing about each time I need an accent, I copied the 'combining acute accent' into the 'favourites' section of the character palette, which I then I leave permanently open, but 'parked', so to speak, on the amber light in the dock area. 

I hope that this account makes sense to other Mac users and that PC users will treasure this rare glimpse into the mysterious world of 'the other'.

A happy new year to all.

John Dunn.
       

-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Franke <jack.franke at GMAIL.COM>
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 14:51:21 -0800
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Other Mac Cyrillic Woes (Fonts With Stress Marks?)

Alexandar:

I have found the company Paratype to be very helpful with accented cyrillic
fonts <http://www.paratype.com/>. You can see samples of all their fonts
online.

A couple of years ago a program called Slavyanski 1.2 was developed in
Russia for Mac OS X.3 and above. It can place accents on any glyph, and in
any direction.

You can also download Apple Russian fonts from their web site in Moscow:
<http://www.apple.ru/download/?ext_fonts>. If you need accented vowels, use
the "show character palette"(where the flag is in the menu once you select a
2nd keyboard in System Preferences), type the vowel, and then select
'combining diacritical marks', and the vowel will be accented.

All the best,

Jack Franke

*********************************
Jack Franke, Ph.D., Professor of Russian
Coordinator, Russian Department C
European and Latin American School
Defense Language Institute Foreign Language Center
Monterey, CA 93944




On 1/2/07, Alexandar Mihailovic <cllazm at hofstra.edu> wrote:
>
> Dear SEELANGovsty:
>
> On a related Cyrillic MacIntosh note, I have had a hard time locating a r
> ecent (i.e., System X-
> compatible) font  where one can easily place an accent mark over any vowe
> l.  The so-called Accented
> Cyrillic font is extremely limited, and doesn't permit free manipulation
> of diacritical marks.  Does
> anyone know of a collection of Mac Cyrillic fonts (either free on-line or
> for purchase) that includes
> such a feature, which would obviously be very useful for putting together
> supplementary materials
> for language classes?
>
> Alexandar Mihailovic
>
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From Alexandra.Smith at SHEFFIELD.AC.UK  Wed Jan  3 11:13:52 2007
From: Alexandra.Smith at SHEFFIELD.AC.UK (A Smith)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 11:13:52 +0000
Subject: Stalin in literature
In-Reply-To: <LISTSERV%200701030553277030.0CBA@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
Message-ID: <WED.3.JAN.2007.111352.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Robert,

I hope you've included into the list of recommended reading of secondary sources
 for your course Rosalind Marsh's book: 
Rosalind Marsh.Images of Dictatorship: Stalin in Literature  (London and New
York: Routledge), 1989.
 

All very best for 2007,

Alexandra Smith

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From: Wendy.Rosslyn at NOTTINGHAM.AC.UK (Rosslyn Wendy)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 14:15:36 -0000
Subject: Funding for postgraduate study, University of Nottingham UK
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Please see below for details of studentships available in the School of Modern Languages and Cultures at the University of Nottingham for the academic year 2007-2008. 

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http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/prospectuses/postgrad/information.phtml?inc=school&code=000108 http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/slavonic/ 

Informal enquiries to: 

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From temp0001 at SHININGHAPPYPEOPLE.NET  Wed Jan  3 15:49:19 2007
From: temp0001 at SHININGHAPPYPEOPLE.NET (Don Livingston)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 08:49:19 -0700
Subject: problems with cyrillic o line when using a Mac
In-Reply-To: AAAAAK6UaMV1HCFOoMSytGEgq1ykfiwA
Message-ID: <WED.3.JAN.2007.084919.0700.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I highly recommend SIL's Gentium script for dealing with accented Cyrillic letters.  They have a version specifically prepared for Mac OS X (and nine, I believe), and also versions for Linux and Windows which I have successfully used.  The font contains non-spacing diacritics which I regularly use.  The font can be found at:

http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&item_id=Gentium_download

One thing to bear in mind if you wish your text to be readable by others in html on a website is that the reader generally must have a font installed on his system that contains the necessary symbols, and it's best to construct your html in such a way that it directs the browser to use specific fonts that will have those symbols before using ones that doen't have them.  For instance, if I want my readers to view non-spacing diacritics on my blog, I can include the following bit of code in the html "head" section of the web page:

<style type="text/css">
body { font-family:  Gentium,"Arial Unicode MS","Times New Roman",ClearlyU, serif ; }
</style>

This directs the browser first to use the Gentium font, or if that's missing use Arial Unicode MS, then try Times New Roman, then ClearlyU, then the standard system serif font.

A couple notes on the fonts:  Gentium is a glorious font for print.  It's not rendered as nicely on screen as on the page; it's still my first choice for this kind of thing.  Arial Unicode MS is an enormous and fairly complete Unicode font that includes non-spacing diacritics.  In MS Office 2003 the Times New Roman font contains them as well.  ClearlyU is distributed on many Linux systems and also has them.  Therefore this bit of css code should provide multisystem ability to read non-spacing diacritics for most users, provided only that they have installed one of the relevant fonts on their computer.

Installation instructions for Arial Unicode MS are still available at

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;287247

All the best, Don Livingston.

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From lzaharkov at WITTENBERG.EDU  Wed Jan  3 16:06:47 2007
From: lzaharkov at WITTENBERG.EDU (Lila W. Zaharkov)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 11:06:47 -0500
Subject: Iskander and Stalin
In-Reply-To: <BAY125-F11F28C724F5E25A771385DA1B90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <WED.3.JAN.2007.110647.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

At 12:29 AM 01/03/2007, you wrote:

If not already mentioned-Voinovich's Circle of friends-short stroy


>Dear Robert,
>
>Here is the list of writings about Stalin which comes to my mind right now.
>1.Island Crimea by Aksyonov.It is the satirical essay written by Luchnikov
>to the anniversary of Stalin.
>2.Generations of Winter by the same Vasily Palich.The chapter in the 2nd 
>volume where is depicted the meeting of Zhukov with members of Politbyuro 
>on the platform of Subway station at the beginning of the Great Patriotic 
>War.+ Some other episodes in the same volume  where we can meet Our Chief 
>and Teacher accompanied by his satanic retinue.
>3.The Poem about Stalin by Galich(if it is available in translation).
>
>4.The Pretender  on the Throne by Voinovich .The chapter where Stalin and 
>Hitler simultaneously contemplate about Chonkin as count Golitsin  and the 
>leader of undeground anti-Soviet  resistance.
>5. Among Iskander’s stories I remember the one about fishing in the 
>mountain river.
>6.I have never read Bulgakov’s Batum,but  I have read some unexpected 
>interpretations of this play written by critic Smelyansky .
>
>If I were you, Robert ,I would also consider some small poems, not 
>songs,of Okudzhava  about Stalin as well as Bulat’s autobiography 
>Uprazdnenniy Teatr .
>Stalin was responsible was the death of Shalva Okudzava,however in the 
>book we can find the writers opinions why his parents were responsible for 
>Stalinizm.
>If I were you I would strongly recommend to my students to read The Great 
>Terror by Conquest.The Legend of Grand Inquisitor by Dostoevsky as well as 
>the works of Orwell are also might be considered as a required reading.
>I also think that the collection of poetry  such as Rodnomu Stalinu  would 
>entertain your students and inspire them to think  why for example 
>Akmatova or young Tvardovsky could write such apologetic poetry.Let’ s 
>also not firget about Mandelshtam’s anti-Stalin epigram and Mandelashtam’s 
>pro- stalin poetry.
>The poetry of the Magnificent Three (Voznesensky, Evtushenko, and probably 
>Rozhdestvensky)would also be considered if they are available in translation.
>
>The dozens of volumes of pseudo-historian  Georgy Suvorov (I doubt whether 
>they have been translated or not) convince the reader  how really great 
>Stalin was and how great purge  was absolutely necessary for the sake the 
>victory in the War(??!!).However I believe that the works of  this 
>“historian “  and  hypnotist are far from the area of the special field of 
>your interest.
>Sorry for the chaos in my letter. The topic is very important, but it is 
>too late to be precise at the moment.
>
>
>
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Vladimir Shatsev
>
>Language and Drama Teacher
>
>Russian House Community Centre www.russianhouse.ca
>
>Phone.: 416-236-5563
>Cell : 416-333-1840
>
>Email: vladimir.shatsev at russianhouse.ca
>
>
>
>
>>From: Robert Chandler <kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
>>Reply-To: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
>><SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
>>To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
>>Subject: [SEELANGS] Iskander and Stalin
>>Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 06:01:35 +0000
>>
>>Dear all,
>>
>>I’m teaching a course for the first time on post-Stalin literature.  SANDRO
>>OF CHEGEM will be a set text.  Iskander’s portraits of Stalin and his
>>entourage are memorable.  In case any students want to make comparisons,
>>what other good portraits of these people are there in Russian literature?
>>I’m not well read in this period and I know only of a chapter in THE FIRST
>>CIRCLE, a chapter in LIFE AND FATE, and a section of Grossman’s wonderful
>>story ‘Mama’.
>>
>>And while I’m about it, does this seem like a good choice of extracts from
>>SANDRO?  Any other chapter anyone would esp. recommend?
>>Sandro of Chegem (ÑÀÍÄÐÎ ÈÇ ×ÅÃÅÌÀ)
>>Gamblers (ÈÃÐÎÊÈ)
>>Belshazzar's Feasts (ÏÈÐÛ ÁÀËÒÀÑÀÐÀ)
>>Old Khabag's Mule (ÐÀÑÑÊÀÇ ÌÓËÀ ÑÒÀÐÎÃÎ ÕÀÁÓÃÀ )
>>
>>Best wishes to all of you for 2007!
>>
>>Robert
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From TC0JXK1 at WPO.CSO.NIU.EDU  Wed Jan  3 18:46:52 2007
From: TC0JXK1 at WPO.CSO.NIU.EDU (Joanna Kot)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 12:46:52 -0600
Subject: AAASS 2007
Message-ID: <WED.3.JAN.2007.124652.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Seelangers,

I am trying to form a panel or panels for the 2007 AAASS convention. At
present we are suspended in terms of presenters between one and two
panels. If anyone is interested in presenting on Slavic theater and
film, or on Slavic women writers, please let me know.

The deadline for filing is January 12th, so if you would like to give a
paper, please send me an exact title and a short CV.

Joanna Kot
Assoc. prof. of Russian and Polish
Northern Illinois University
(815) 753-6460
jkot at niu.edu 

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From aaanem at WM.EDU  Wed Jan  3 20:23:07 2007
From: aaanem at WM.EDU (Tony Anemone)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 15:23:07 -0500
Subject: Soviet Animation: Creative Freedom and Censorship at Soyuzmultfilm
Message-ID: <WED.3.JAN.2007.152307.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear colleagues,

  I am still looking for one more participant on my animation panel   
at the 2007 AAASS conference in New Orleans:

  Soviet Animation: Creative Freedom and Censorship at Soyuzmultfilm

  If you're interested in participating in this panel, please contact  
me directly at bbginz at wm.edu




Sincerely,

Bella Ginzbursky-Blum

College of William & Mary

757-221-2611

bbginz at wm.edu

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From Janneke.vandeStadt at WILLIAMS.EDU  Wed Jan  3 20:23:35 2007
From: Janneke.vandeStadt at WILLIAMS.EDU (Janneke van de Stadt)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 15:23:35 -0500
Subject: Okno v Parizh
In-Reply-To: <A69926B11B00DF40B222E21CFD9979A9013FEEA7@exchange.temple>
Message-ID: <WED.3.JAN.2007.152335.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

  Dear Seelangers,

I have tried to find the screenplay for Yuri Mamin's "Okno v Parizh"  
in all sorts of places, on and offline, but have failed.  I have also  
tried to obtain the movie on DVD with Russian subtitles, but to no  
avail.

Does anyone know a) whether the screenplay has been published or b)   
whether a DVD version with Russian subtitles actually exists?

Thanks in advance!

Janneke

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From mclellan at PRINCETON.EDU  Wed Jan  3 20:43:36 2007
From: mclellan at PRINCETON.EDU (Frank McLellan)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 15:43:36 -0500
Subject: Okno v Parizh
In-Reply-To: <09BEA07F-9C7C-4356-968E-C7554F0884F7@williams.edu>
Message-ID: <WED.3.JAN.2007.154336.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

>  Dear Seelangers,
>
>I have tried to find the screenplay for Yuri Mamin's "Okno v Parizh" 
>in all sorts of places, on and offline, but have failed.  I have 
>also tried to obtain the movie on DVD with Russian subtitles, but to 
>no avail.
>
>Does anyone know a) whether the screenplay has been published or b)  
>whether a DVD version with Russian subtitles actually exists?
>
>Thanks in advance!
>
>Janneke

I have had the same problem; I've wanted to use this film in a class 
for some time now, but haven't been able to find a version with 
subtitles.  I'd even settle for a video cassette.  I would be 
grateful to learn the answers to Janneke's questions too.

Frank McLellan
-- 
Francis R. McLellan, Ph.D.
Senior Lecturer in Slavic Languages and Literatures
230 East Pyne, Princeton University
Princeton, NJ 08544
Tel:  (609) 258-2190
Fax:  (609) 258-2204

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From eric.laursen at M.CC.UTAH.EDU  Wed Jan  3 20:51:09 2007
From: eric.laursen at M.CC.UTAH.EDU (eric r laursen)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 13:51:09 -0700
Subject: Okno v Parizh
In-Reply-To: <a06110414c1c1c59aae68@[128.112.197.252]>
Message-ID: <WED.3.JAN.2007.135109.0700.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Frank, I found a version with subtitles on VHS on Amazon last year.  I just searched Amazon and found 16 copies available:
http://www.amazon.com/Window-Paris-Valentine-Boukine/dp/6303926770/sr=11-1/qid=1167857185/ref=sr_11_1/103-4119176-5346200
Good luck!  --Eric



From: Frank McLellan
Sent: Wed 1/3/2007 1:43 PM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Okno v Parizh


>  Dear Seelangers,
>
>I have tried to find the screenplay for Yuri Mamin's "Okno v Parizh" 
>in all sorts of places, on and offline, but have failed.  I have 
>also tried to obtain the movie on DVD with Russian subtitles, but to 
>no avail.
>
>Does anyone know a) whether the screenplay has been published or b)  
>whether a DVD version with Russian subtitles actually exists?
>
>Thanks in advance!
>
>Janneke

I have had the same problem; I've wanted to use this film in a class 
for some time now, but haven't been able to find a version with 
subtitles.  I'd even settle for a video cassette.  I would be 
grateful to learn the answers to Janneke's questions too.

Frank McLellan
-- 
Francis R. McLellan, Ph.D.
Senior Lecturer in Slavic Languages and Literatures
230 East Pyne, Princeton University
Princeton, NJ 08544
Tel:  (609) 258-2190
Fax:  (609) 258-2204

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From sdawes at AMERICANCOUNCILS.ORG  Wed Jan  3 21:27:33 2007
From: sdawes at AMERICANCOUNCILS.ORG (Sheila Dawes)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 16:27:33 -0500
Subject: Deadline Reminder: American Councils (ACTR) Title VIII Programs
 for Research & Language Training
Message-ID: <WED.3.JAN.2007.162733.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

American Councils for International Education: ACTR/ACCELS announces the
following Fall 2007 and Academic Year 2007-2008 fellowship programs:

Title VIII Research Scholar Program: Provides full support for three to
nine-month research trips to Russia, Central Asia, the South Caucasus,
Ukraine, Belarus, and Moldova. Fellowships include roundtrip
international travel, housing, living stipends, visas, insurance,
affiliation fees, archive access, research advising, and logistical
support in the field. Open to U.S. graduate students, post-doctoral
scholars, and faculty. Full and partial fellowships are available for
research through American Councils from U.S. Department of State (Title
VIII) grant support. Application deadline: January 15 (Fall and Academic
Year Programs).

Title VIII Combined Research and Language Training Program: Provides
full support for research and approximately ten hours per week of
advanced language instruction for three to nine months in Russia,
Central Asia, the South Caucasus, Ukraine, Belarus, and Moldova.
Fellowships include roundtrip international travel, housing, tuition,
living stipends, visas, insurance, affiliation fees, archive access,
research advising, and logistical support in the field. Open to U.S.
graduate students, post-doctoral scholars, and faculty. Full and partial
fellowships are available for research and/or language study through
American Councils from U.S. Department of State (Title VIII) grant
support. Application deadline: January 15 (Fall and Academic Year
Programs).

Title VIII Special Initiatives Fellowship: Provides grants of up to
$35,000 for field research on policy-relevant topics in Armenia,
Azerbaijan, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and
Turkmenistan. Applicants must hold a Ph.D. in a policy-relevant field
and have sufficient language-ability to carry out proposed research.
Scholars must conduct research for at least four months in the field.
Full and partial fellowships are available for U.S. researchers through
American Councils from U.S. Department of State (Title VIII) grant
support. Application deadline: January 15 (Fall and Academic Year
Programs).

Title VIII Southeastern Europe Research Programs: Provides full support
for three to nine months of research in Southeastern Europe. Fellowships
include roundtrip international travel, housing, living stipends, visas,
insurance, and affiliation fees. Full and partial fellowships are
available for research through American Councils from U.S. Department of
State (Title VIII) grant support. Open to U.S. graduate students,
post-doctoral scholars, and faculty. Application deadline: January 15
(Fall and Academic Year Programs).

Title VIII Southeastern Europe Language Program: Offers international
travel, housing, living stipends, visas, tuition, insurance, and
affiliation fees for one to nine months of intensive language study at
major universities throughout Southeastern Europe. Open to U.S. students
at the MA and Ph.D. level, as well as faculty and post-doctoral
scholars. Full and partial fellowships are available for research and/or
language study through American Councils from U.S. Department of State
(Title VIII) grant support. Application deadline: January 15 (Fall and
Academic Year Programs).

For more information, please contact: Outbound Programs, American
Councils for International Education: ACTR/ACCELS, 1776 Massachusetts
Avenue, NW, Suite 700, Washington, DC 20036; (202) 833-7522, Email:
outbound at americancouncils.org; Website: www.americancouncils.org

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From s-hill4 at UIUC.EDU  Wed Jan  3 22:53:10 2007
From: s-hill4 at UIUC.EDU (Prof Steven P Hill)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 16:53:10 -0600
Subject: national Slavistics meetings in late 2007
Message-ID: <WED.3.JAN.2007.165310.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear colleagues:

I note that some hard-working scholars are making every effort to form 
complete panels for the November '07 meeting of AAASS in New Orleans.  
Let's hope they will succeed in their efforts.

If any scholars would like to form a panel but cannot meet AAASS's
extremely early deadline, keep in mind that a similar organization, 
AATSEEL [Amer. Assoc. Tchrs. Slav. E. Eur. Langs.] is scheduled to 
have ITS annual (inter)national meeting in Chicago, appx. December 
27 - 30, 2007 (same time, same city, as the enormous MLA [Mod.
Lang. Assoc.] annual meeting).  You might try to organize a panel 
under AATSEEL jurisdiction, if you miss out on AAASS.

Let me mention that AATSEEL, although it's smaller,  may even have 
a couple of advantages over AAASS.  (1) 1st (preliminary) deadline 
to submit abstracts (and/or pre-formed panels) is April 2007; and 
the 2d (final) deadline is August 1, 2007.  Much more liberal than 
AAASS!  (2)  I believe that annual membership & registration fees for 
AATSEEL may be a bit less costly than for AAASS.  (3)  For some, the 
midwestern city of Chicago may be closer, i.e., handier to go to, than 
New Orleans.  (4)  For those involved with job interviews in languages, 
literatures, cultures, humanities generally, the fact that MLA will meet 
in Chicago the same week as AATSEEL would enable some to kill 2 birds 
with the same stone (2 sets of interviews on the same trip, i.e., "ubit' 
dvukh zaitsev").  (5)  AATSEEL & MLA wiill gather during school vacations, 
and thus will not conflict (as AAASS does conflict) with a few days of 
regular class sessions.

With New Year's best wishes to all,
Steven P Hill,
University of Illinois.
(Longtime member of both AATSEEL and AAASS).
_ ___ __ __ __ __ ___ __ __ ___ __ __ ___ 

  

 

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From karlahuebner at COMPUSERVE.COM  Wed Jan  3 23:13:04 2007
From: karlahuebner at COMPUSERVE.COM (Karla Huebner)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 00:13:04 +0100
Subject: AAASS 2007
In-Reply-To: <459BA5BC020000130042111B@wpo.cso.niu.edu>
Message-ID: <THU.4.JAN.2007.001304.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Seelangers,

We're in the process of organizing a panel for AAASS 2007, on the 
topic of the Czechoslovak avant-garde 1890 to circa 1950 or so. We 
have two definite presenters and probably the third (the panel could 
be more broadly avant-garde than just Czechoslovak), but are seeking 
a chair and discussant. If interested in one of these, please send your CV to:

Karla Huebner
University of Pittsburgh
karlahuebner at compuserve.com

and

Shawn Clybor
Northwestern University
s-clybor at northwestern.edu

As we will need to propose the panel by January 12, we hope to get 
the personnel lined up in the next week or so.

Thanks in advance,

Karla Huebner

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From erika.wolf at OTAGO.AC.NZ  Thu Jan  4 00:04:30 2007
From: erika.wolf at OTAGO.AC.NZ (Erika Wolf)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 13:04:30 +1300
Subject: French Scholar looking for a AAASS panel
Message-ID: <THU.4.JAN.2007.130430.1300.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I am posting this query on behalf of Ewa Berard, Ecole Normale 
Superieur, Paris. Her research concerns cities and urbanism. A list of 
her current research topics is included below.

Please reply to her directly at: ewa.berard at ens.fr


_My current research covers the following fields_ :
Russian empire and its big cities in the XIXth-XXth century 
(S.Petersburg & Moscow + Warsaw)
State reforms at the turn of the XXth century and the municipal issue.
Urban issue in the 1905 revolution
Comparative historiography of Russian city
Contemporary transformations of the post-socialist city, in particular 
the post-socialist capitals Warsaw and Moscow. 


Ewa Bérard
Centre National de la recherche Scientifique
UMR 8547 Transferts culturels
Ecole Normale Superieure, 45, rue d'Ulm
75005 Paris

-

Dr.Erika Wolf
Senior Lecturer
Programme in Art History and Theory
Department of History
University of Otago
P.O. Box 56
Dunedin, NEW ZEALAND

Phone: +64-3-479-9012
Mobile: +64-21-123-3904
Fax: +64-3-479-8429

erika.wolf at otago.ac.nz
http://www.otago.ac.nz/arthistory/



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From sglebov at SMITH.EDU  Thu Jan  4 00:27:08 2007
From: sglebov at SMITH.EDU (Sergey Glebov)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 19:27:08 -0500
Subject: copyright question
Message-ID: <WED.3.JAN.2007.192708.0500.>

Dear colleagues,
 
I am posting a copyright question (again!) on behalf of someone not
subscribed to SEELANGS. A private Russian-language school in the United
States wants to compile a collection of texts ("khrestomatiia") for the
students' use. The texts include excerpts of up to 2 pages from
contemporary Russian authors, adapted for heritage speakers. Are such
excerpts protected by US copyright law and are the publishers vulnerable
to legal action? 
 
I will be very grateful for off the list responses.
 
With best regards,
 
Sergey Glebov

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From pilch at UIUC.EDU  Thu Jan  4 01:27:02 2007
From: pilch at UIUC.EDU (Janice Pilch)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 19:27:02 -0600
Subject: copyright question
Message-ID: <WED.3.JAN.2007.192702.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Sergey,

To answer this question, more details are needed, as to the materials being used, the authors whose works are being used (death dates) and exactly how they are planned to be used: compiled as handouts for classroom use, printed as a textbook by a publisher or compiled as a coursepack by an instructor, posted to a website, publicly distributed as a textbook, adapted for use through annotations or translation, or some or all of the above. 

Works of contemporary Russian authors, who are alive or who are died within the last 70 years are in most cases still protected by copyright in the U.S., but this does not preclude your use of them in in the U.S. in certain educational situations. It depends on what you plan to do. U.S. law governs such use, and much depends on the application of Section 107 of the law (fair use). The less of the works you use, and the less widely you distribute the materials, the greater chance of your use falling into what would be considered "fair." Adapting the works, then publishing and publicly distributing them as a textbook would probably not qualify as a fair use; handing out print copies of 2-page excerpts of works by 10 different authors to a limited number of students in a classroom, even if adapted in some way with annotations or translations, would no doubt be considered fair. Adapting the works, then posting them to a public website to serve as a textbook for students anywhere!
  w!
ould be questionable. 

If you would like to send me more information on the works and exactly what you would like to do with them, I can provide some helpful advice. In the meantime, if you take a look at section 107 of the U.S. copyright law, and to the website on fair use created by Prof. Kenneth Crews at IUPUI, you will get an idea of the exceptions that U.S. law allows for these kinds of uses of educational material, and how to apply the fair use concept. 

http://www.copyright.gov/title17/chapter01.pdf
http://www.copyright.iupui.edu/index.htm

We can communicate off line on this concerning the details. I'll be away at meetings in Chicago until Friday evening, but will reply again after that.

Sincerely,

Janice Pilch, Chair
AAASS Bibliography and Documentation Subcommittee 
on Copyright Issues

---- Original message ----
>Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 19:27:08 -0500
>From: Sergey Glebov <sglebov at SMITH.EDU>  
>Subject: [SEELANGS] copyright question  
>To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
>
>Dear colleagues,
> 
>I am posting a copyright question (again!) on behalf of someone not
>subscribed to SEELANGS. A private Russian-language school in the United
>States wants to compile a collection of texts ("khrestomatiia") for the
>students' use. The texts include excerpts of up to 2 pages from
>contemporary Russian authors, adapted for heritage speakers. Are such
>excerpts protected by US copyright law and are the publishers vulnerable
>to legal action? 
> 
>I will be very grateful for off the list responses.
> 
>With best regards,
> 
>Sergey Glebov
>
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Head, Slavic and East European Acquisitions
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 
1408 W. Gregory Drive, Urbana, IL 61801  
Tel (217) 244-9399
Fax (217) 333-2214

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From jlabov at STANFORD.EDU  Thu Jan  4 02:27:18 2007
From: jlabov at STANFORD.EDU (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jessie_M_Labov?=)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 21:27:18 -0500
Subject: AAASS 2007 panel proposals by ISRA
Message-ID: <WED.3.JAN.2007.212718.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

The International Samizdat Research Association [ISRA] is organizing panel
proposals for next year’s AAASS meeting in New Orleans on one or more of the
following subjects:

*the transfer of literature between East and West during the Cold War

*contacts between tamizdat publishers 

*non-literary forms of alternative culture in Central and Eastern Europe 

*music crossing borders during and after the Cold War

*texts negotiating between political opposition and aesthetic freedom

Please contact Jessie Labov <jlabov at stanford.edu> or Friederike Kind-Kovács
<kind at zzf-pdm.de> by *MONDAY, JANUARY 8* if you would like to propose a
paper for one of these panels, or for more information about ISRA’s
activities. Also see: http://www.samizdatportal.org/

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From kevin.windle at ANU.EDU.AU  Thu Jan  4 05:04:06 2007
From: kevin.windle at ANU.EDU.AU (Kevin Windle)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 16:04:06 +1100
Subject: Stalin in literature
In-Reply-To: A<C1C07E4B.BA2D%kcf19@dial.pipex.com>
Message-ID: <THU.4.JAN.2007.160406.1100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Robert,

 

There are at least two chapters, XLV and LXXXIII, devoted to Stalin in
Igor Gouzenko's novel, The Fall of a Titan. Cassell published Mervyn
Black's translation in 1954. I believe the original was also published
in London in 1954 (Padenie Titana) but haven't seen it, and can't trace
the name of the publisher. 

 

Alexander Bek's Novoe naznachenie may also be of interest.

 

Kevin Windle

 

 

Dr K. M. Windle,

Reader, School of Language Studies,

Assistant Dean (Post-Graduate Study),

Faculty of Arts,

Australian National University,

Canberra,

A.C.T. 0200,

Australia

Telephone: (61) (02) 6125-2885

Fax: (61) (02) 6125-3252

E-mail: Kevin.Windle at anu.edu.au

 


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From newsnet at FAS.HARVARD.EDU  Thu Jan  4 20:00:19 2007
From: newsnet at FAS.HARVARD.EDU (NewsNet)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 15:00:19 -0500
Subject: AAASS 2007 Convention CFP Deadline Reminder
In-Reply-To: <255237.7848.qm@web30415.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <THU.4.JAN.2007.150019.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

AAASS 2007 Convention CFP Deadline Reminder

Please remember the deadline for submitting panel and roundtable 
proposals, and meeting room request forms for affiliate meetings for 
the 39th National Convention of the American Association for the 
Advancement of Slavic Studies (AAASS) is Friday, JANUARY 12, 2007.

The 39th National Convention will be held at the New Orleans 
Marriott, http://marriott.com/property/propertypage/msyla, in New 
Orleans, Louisiana, from Thursday, November 15, 2007 through Sunday, 
November 19, 2007. The AAASS special group rate for convention 
participants is $169 per night for single or double room. We also 
have a limited number of rooms set aside for graduate students at a 
special rate of $99 per night.

Please note that you may submit your material on line at our website 
by going to the members only/registered users site at 
<http://www.aaass.org>www.aaass.org.

If you will need av equipment for your panel, please be very specific 
about type of equipment (i.e., slide projector and screen, not 
projector and screen).  Please note that we DO NOT pay for powerpoint 
equipment.

For more detailed information about the AAASS and the 2007 National 
Convention, please visit:
http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~aaass/convention.html.

Wendy Walker
AAASS Convention Coordinator
617-495-0678
walker at fas.harvard.edu

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From alexaaa at BGNET.BGSU.EDU  Thu Jan  4 20:51:36 2007
From: alexaaa at BGNET.BGSU.EDU (alexaaa@bgnet.bgsu.edu)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 15:51:36 -0500
Subject: New topic proposal
Message-ID: <THU.4.JAN.2007.155136.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Seelangers,

A colleague and I have a topic on Intergrating Technology into the Culture and 
Language Learning Classroom that we would like to present at the 2007 AAASS 
convention, and we are looking for a panel to join. If our topic fits into your panel, 
please let us know.

Anastasia A. Alexandrova

Instructor of Russian Language and Culture
German, Russian, East Asian Languages Department
Bowling Green State University
(419) 372 8028
(419) 372 2268

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From marc at ADLERPACIFIC.COM  Thu Jan  4 22:40:24 2007
From: marc at ADLERPACIFIC.COM (Marc Adler)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 16:40:24 -0600
Subject: New Wikipedia
Message-ID: <THU.4.JAN.2007.164024.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

In case anyone is interested, there is now a version of Wikipedia in ... 
<*drumroll*> ... Old Church Slavonic (or Ѩзыкъ словѣньскъ if your 
computer can handle that).

http://cu.wikipedia.org/

-- 
Marc Adler
marc at adlerpacific.com

Gauzak ez dira multzutu eta berretu
behar, mengoarik eta premiarik gabe.

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From zielinski at GMX.CH  Thu Jan  4 22:52:00 2007
From: zielinski at GMX.CH (Zielinski)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 23:52:00 +0100
Subject: New Wikipedia
Message-ID: <THU.4.JAN.2007.235200.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Marc Adler:

> Gauzak ez dira multzutu eta berretu
> behar, mengoarik eta premiarik gabe.

Etxeberri Sarakoa?

Jan Zielinski

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From marc at ADLERPACIFIC.COM  Fri Jan  5 00:04:52 2007
From: marc at ADLERPACIFIC.COM (Marc Adler)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 18:04:52 -0600
Subject: New Wikipedia
In-Reply-To: <001f01c73052$f5fd7af0$3afe4b54@JANEK>
Message-ID: <THU.4.JAN.2007.180452.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Zielinski(e)k dio:

> Etxeberri Sarakoa?

Gilen Ockhamgoa!

("Ockhamen labana" da euskaraz. Ortografia "zuzena" behean dago ;) )

-- 
Marc Adler
marc at adlerpacific.com

"Gauçac eztira multçutu, eta berretu
behar mengoaric, eta premiaric gabe"

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From rossen.djagalov at YALE.EDU  Fri Jan  5 00:28:49 2007
From: rossen.djagalov at YALE.EDU (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rossen_Djagalov?=)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 19:28:49 -0500
Subject: AAASS panel proposal: druzhba narodov
Message-ID: <THU.4.JAN.2007.192849.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Friends,

I am currently trying to assemble a panel on how the Soviet Union
attempted to pick up the banner of the anti-colonial movement 
and what forms of cultural engagement with the Third World
came out of the process (internatinoal student exchanges, posters, film
productions, publishing practices, visits, conferences, scholarship, etc.).

Should the idea appeal to you, do let me know of your broader thoughts about
it and also of the possible topic of your paper by writing to
rossen.djagalov at yale.edu.

Happy New Year,
Rossen

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From kbtrans at COX.NET  Fri Jan  5 01:31:23 2007
From: kbtrans at COX.NET (Kim Braithwaite)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 17:31:23 -0800
Subject: Kundera article in New Yorker
Message-ID: <THU.4.JAN.2007.173123.0800.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Milan Kundera has an intriguing article in the January 8 issue of The New Yorker that I think will be of interest to a lot of seelangers: "Die Weltliteratur."

Mr Kim Braithwaite, Translator

    "Good is better than Evil, because it's nicer" -  Mammy Yokum (Al Capp)

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From pstock at BRANDEIS.EDU  Fri Jan  5 01:49:03 2007
From: pstock at BRANDEIS.EDU (David Powelstock)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 20:49:03 -0500
Subject: Kundera article in New Yorker
In-Reply-To: <00ec01c73069$35956130$6401a8c0@your46e94owx6a>
Message-ID: <THU.4.JAN.2007.204903.0500.>

It is an intriguing article. Moreover, it poses some serious challenges to
some ideas that have traditionally shaped the academic field of Slavistics.
In particular, Kundera asserts that we do a disservice to great works of
literature (and their authors) by studying them primarily in national
context or in the context of "Slavic culture," which MK sees as a bogus
construct. Much food for thought for our field in there, whether one agrees
or disagrees. I hope a serious discussion will break out on SEELANGS. 

Happy New Year, one and all,
David Powelstock

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu] On Behalf Of Kim Braithwaite
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 8:31 PM
To: SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu
Subject: [SEELANGS] Kundera article in New Yorker

Milan Kundera has an intriguing article in the January 8 issue of The New
Yorker that I think will be of interest to a lot of seelangers: "Die
Weltliteratur."

Mr Kim Braithwaite, Translator

    "Good is better than Evil, because it's nicer" -  Mammy Yokum (Al Capp)

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From sunnierday at YAHOO.CO.UK  Fri Jan  5 01:50:08 2007
From: sunnierday at YAHOO.CO.UK (sunnie rucker)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 01:50:08 +0000
Subject: Cfa: Discussant and Chair needed for Panel on crime in Serbia,
 AAASS conference 15-18 November 2007
Message-ID: <FRI.5.JAN.2007.015008.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Seelangers, 

We are seeking a discussant and chair for our panel, "The Emergence of Criminal Syndicates in post-war Serbia." The papers contained on the panel are as follows: 

Jason Vuic (Virginia Military Institute), "Crime and Corruption and recent Serbian-American Relations"

Felix Chang (University of Michigan Law School), "The Chinese in Serbia"

Sunnie Rucker-Chang (The Ohio State University), "New Belgrade's Petty Criminals and Urbanscapes in Film" 

If you are interested or know of anyone who might be, please contact me at 
sunnierday at gmail.com. 
Thank you! 

Best, 
Sunnie Rucker-Chang
 Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com 

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From maria.basom at UNI.EDU  Fri Jan  5 02:05:45 2007
From: maria.basom at UNI.EDU (=?koi8-r?Q?Maria_Basom?=)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 21:05:45 -0500
Subject: AAASS 2007 panel on art policies in Russia
Message-ID: <THU.4.JAN.2007.210545.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear SEELANGers,

 I would like to organize a panel on art policy in Russia (history and/or
current policies regarding the arts). Please get in touch with me off-list
ASAP if you are interested in presenting a paper or serving as chair or
discussant (keep in mind the Jan 12 deadline).

Thanks!

Maria Basom
Professor of Russian
Modern Languages
University of Northern Iowa
Cedar Falls, IA 50614-0504
(319) 266-9056
maria.basom at cfu.net

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From s-hill4 at UIUC.EDU  Fri Jan  5 06:20:44 2007
From: s-hill4 at UIUC.EDU (Prof Steven P Hill)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 00:20:44 -0600
Subject: sad story from New Orleans
Message-ID: <FRI.5.JAN.2007.002044.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear colleagues:

The attached news item tonight on another list-server caught my eye,
b/c the latest victim shared my surname, Hill (although not related). 
And her husband has a Baltic surname (Gailiunas).  I trust that this 
epidemic of shootings is concentrated far from the neighborhood 
of the AAASS conference hotel.

Sincerely,
Steven P Hill,
University of Illinois.
__ __ __ ___ __ __ __ _

Date: Thu 4 Jan 23:23:19 CST 2007
From: <LISTSERV at LSV.UKY.EDU> 
Subject: Re: GETPOST AMIA-L 
To: Steven P Hill <S-HILL4 at UIUC.EDU> 

Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 19:01:17 -0600
From: Larry Urbanski <larryu at URBANSKIFILM.COM> 
Subject: Helen Hill killed 

New Orleans sees homicide epidemic
05:32 PM CST on Thursday, January 4, 2007
Associated Press

NEW ORLEANS – An independent filmmaker was the latest victim of New 
Orleans' homicide epidemic – the fifth of five people to die violently in 
a 14-hour span; her husband, a physician who treats the city's poor, 
was injured in the Thursday morning shooting.
Police did not release the names. But weeping friends and neighbors 
who gathered in front of the little white house where the killing occurred
identified them as filmmaker Helen Hill and Dr. Paul Gailiunas. They had
moved to the area of the city known as the Faubourg Marigny with their 
son about a year after Hurricane Katrina wiped out their home in the 
Mid-City neighborhood.
Police said both were shot at their front door about 5:30 a.m. Thursday.
No other details were available.  [ .... ]  "They were wonderful people. 
Two bright spots in New Orleans. They gave us hope that people could 
live together. And they'd do anything for anybody," said Sheri Branch, 
who was taking care of the couple's 2-year-old son while Gailiunas was 
hospitalized.
Hill was among five people shot to death in unrelated incidents spanning
14 hours – three Wednesday night and two Thursday morning. Those, 
along with a New Year's Day killing brought the 2007 total to six.  Police 
also were investigating the suspicious death of a woman but the case had 
not been ruled a homicide as of Thursday.
Hill made short films; her experimental animation shorts had been shown 
at a number of festivals in the United States and Canada.  [ .... ] A Harvard 
graduate, she earned her master of fine arts in experimental animation 
from the California Institute of the Arts in 1995.  Gailiunas, who was in 
stable condition Thursday, opened a clinic for poor people in the Treme 
neighborhood in 2004. It was flooded by Katrina a year later. [ .... ]
No witnesses to any of the killings has come forward, police said 
Thursday, begging for help to solve the most recent murders. Assistant 
Superintendent Steven Nicholas described the recent killings as brazen 
acts, often committed in broad daylight and, in one case, within a block 
of police officers. As police have in the past, Nicholas said police work 
is hamstrung without witnesses.
At a news conference on Monday, Police Superintendent Warren Riley 
said homicides in the city spiked in April, May and July, but had become 
less frequent – something he credited to police initiatives.
Police spokeswoman Bambi Hall said after 19 killings in October and 
another 19 in November, December's total was 15. There were 161 
homicides in the city in 2006. New Orleans' murder rate was 7 to 10 
times the national average for cities of its size in 2005, the latest 
period for which complete data is available. [ ....]
National Guard troops and state police were brought in to help patrol 
some neighborhoods after five teenagers were killed in one night in 
June 2006.  The Guard focused on areas most devastated by Hurricane 
Katrina so police could focus on higher-crime areas. Their patrols are 
expected to continue this year.  [ .... ]
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From O.F.Boele at LET.LEIDENUNIV.NL  Fri Jan  5 10:28:00 2007
From: O.F.Boele at LET.LEIDENUNIV.NL (Boele, O.F.)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 11:28:00 +0100
Subject: Proposal for panel at AAASS 2007
In-Reply-To: A<45902D9A.2040002@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <FRI.5.JAN.2007.112800.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Seelangers,

I'm organizing a panel with the tentative title "Stories of stagnation -
representing the Brezhnev years in post-Soviet literature and cinema".
If you would like to participate as a presenter, discussant or chair,
please let me know as soon as possible. The panel is also open to
scholars working on memoirs or other non-fictional material, but its
focus is on *post*-Soviet representations only. You can reach me at
o.f.boele at let.leidenuniv.nl

Otto Boele 

Dr. Otto Boele
Slavic Department
University of Leiden
P.O. Box 9515
2300 RA Leiden
The Netherlands
Tel. +31-71-5272085

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From kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM  Fri Jan  5 15:56:42 2007
From: kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Robert Chandler)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 15:56:42 +0000
Subject: Telogreika and dushegreika in KAPITANSKAYA DOCHKA
Message-ID: <FRI.5.JAN.2007.155642.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear all,

Is there much difference between these 2 garments?  Vasilisa Yegorovna wears
the former; the Empress wears the latter!  Both, as far as I understand,
seem likely to be padded and sleeveless.

Best Wishes,

R.

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From lemelinc at DICKINSON.EDU  Fri Jan  5 16:35:04 2007
From: lemelinc at DICKINSON.EDU (Christopher Lemelin)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 11:35:04 -0500
Subject: "Blazne!"
In-Reply-To: <00ec01c73069$35956130$6401a8c0@your46e94owx6a>
Message-ID: <FRI.5.JAN.2007.113504.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear SEELANG-ers,

I have a quick question for Czech speakers.  A colleague of mine is  
working on the American author Willa Cather, who, I as I understand  
it, wrote a story called "The Bohemian" (or perhaps the character is  
referred to this way).

In any case, in the story one character says "Blazne!"  I took only a  
year of Czech in grad school and have tried to keep it up a bit  
myself, but expletives aren't the kind of thing I encounter  
frequently.  It's clear to me (perhaps incorrectly) that this comes  
from "blazen," "fool, madman," but my sense is that the expletive has  
broadened semantically (or is much more broadly used)....  I want to  
say that you could translate this as something as common as "Dammit!"

Could someone enlighten me on Czech expletives?  Please reply off- 
list to

lemelinc at dickinson.edu

Děkuji!

CWL

========================
Christopher W. Lemelin
Assistant Professor of Russian
Dickinson College
lemelinc at dickinson.edu

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From driagina at PSU.EDU  Fri Jan  5 17:42:01 2007
From: driagina at PSU.EDU (Viktoria Driagina)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 12:42:01 -0500
Subject: AAASS: panel on verbs of motion
Message-ID: <FRI.5.JAN.2007.124201.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Seelangers,

We have put together a panel on Russian verbs of motion and associated insights from teaching and research. We are looking for a chair and discussants. If you are interested in participating, please contact me at driagina at psu.edu.

Best,
Viktoria Driagina.


==================

Viktoria Driagina

PhD Candidate in Applied Linguistics (ABD)

Linguistics and Applied Language Studies

The Pennsylvania State University

University Park, PA 16802

Phone: (814) 865-7365










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From jessikaaguilar at HOTMAIL.COM  Fri Jan  5 18:09:39 2007
From: jessikaaguilar at HOTMAIL.COM (Jessika Aguilar)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 11:09:39 -0700
Subject: AAASS: Panel on post-Soviet culture
Message-ID: <FRI.5.JAN.2007.110939.0700.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Seelangers,
 
We are putting together a panel that will deal with the following topic: 
 
How de-legitimated Soviet master narratives continue to inform post-Soviet space. 
 
We are accepting any applications of this theme in literature, art, film, cultural symbols (such as Lenin's body), etc.  Please contact me at ja2265 at columbia.edu if you are interested in serving as panelist, discussant or chair.  
 
Thanks all!
 
Jessika Aguilar
Dept. of Slavic Languages and Literatures
Columbia University
New York, NY 10032
 
_________________________________________________________________
Get into the holiday spirit, chat with Santa on Messenger.
http://imagine-windowslive.com/minisites/santabot/default.aspx?locale=en-us
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From gjanecek at UKY.EDU  Fri Jan  5 19:19:15 2007
From: gjanecek at UKY.EDU (Gerald Janecek)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 14:19:15 -0500
Subject: Victor Terras 1921-2006
In-Reply-To: <ABC761C1-F91B-43F2-8A35-084212FEA961@american.edu>
Message-ID: <FRI.5.JAN.2007.141915.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

We are deeply saddened by the news of Prof. Terras's passing,  
especially since he was very helpful to SEEJ during the early years  
of my tenure as editor.  I hope someone who is in a good position to  
do so will compose an appreciation of Prof. Terras's career for  
publication in the journal.

Gerald Janecek
Editor, SEEJ

On Dec 22, 2006, at 1:42 PM, John Schillinger wrote:

> 	With great sadness, I wish to inform the many SEELANGERS who knew  
> him and his work, that Victor Terras died peacefully at his home in  
> Chevy Chase, Maryland on December 17.   Victor was an inspiration  
> to students and faculty alike, a highly respected scholar, and the  
> best of colleagues.  Most of all, he was a friend whom I and many  
> others will miss deeply.
>
>
> John Schillinger
> Emeritus Prof. of Russian
> American University
> Home address:
> 192 High St., Strasburg, VA 22657
> (540) 465-2828
>
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Gerald Janecek, Professor of Russian
gjanecek at uky.edu
Dept. of Modern & Classical Languages
University of Kentucky
Lexington, KY 40506

Editor, Slavic & East European Journal
seej at uky.edu

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From maptekman at GMAIL.COM  Fri Jan  5 20:14:26 2007
From: maptekman at GMAIL.COM (Marina Aptekman)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 15:14:26 -0500
Subject: utopia/anti-utopia panel chair
Message-ID: <FRI.5.JAN.2007.151426.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Hi, everyone,

It looks like that we are still looking for a chair on our panel on
Russian twentieth-century Utopia/anti-utopia . Is anyone interested?
Please let me know ASAP if you'd like to join.

Marina Aptekman

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From rhellebu at UCALGARY.CA  Fri Jan  5 20:55:04 2007
From: rhellebu at UCALGARY.CA (Rolf Hellebust)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 13:55:04 -0700
Subject: utopia/anti-utopia panel chair
In-Reply-To: <9415124d0701051214r70142a0cv37e6b058f02ff2f9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.5.JAN.2007.135504.0700.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Marina Aptekman wrote:
> Hi, everyone,
>
> It looks like that we are still looking for a chair on our panel on
> Russian twentieth-century Utopia/anti-utopia . Is anyone interested?
> Please let me know ASAP if you'd like to join.
>
> Marina Aptekman
>
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Hi Marina!

I am interested in this topic, and available to be chair -- assuming 
nobody else has volunteered yet.

Rolf Hellebust
U. of Calgary

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From burry.7 at OSU.EDU  Fri Jan  5 20:59:22 2007
From: burry.7 at OSU.EDU (ALEXANDER BURRY)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 14:59:22 -0600
Subject: utopia/anti-utopia panel chair
Message-ID: <FRI.5.JAN.2007.145922.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Hi Marina,

I would be happy to chair the panel if you haven't found anyone. 
I've taught this topic, although it isn't my primary area of research.

Best,
Alex Burry

----- Original Message -----
From: Marina Aptekman <maptekman at GMAIL.COM>
Date: Friday, January 5, 2007 2:14 pm
Subject: [SEELANGS] utopia/anti-utopia panel chair

> Hi, everyone,
> 
> It looks like that we are still looking for a chair on our panel on
> Russian twentieth-century Utopia/anti-utopia . Is anyone 
interested?
> Please let me know ASAP if you'd like to join.
> 
> Marina Aptekman
> 
> 
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From lemelinc at DICKINSON.EDU  Fri Jan  5 23:08:35 2007
From: lemelinc at DICKINSON.EDU (Christopher Lemelin)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 18:08:35 -0500
Subject: Thanks
In-Reply-To: <00ec01c73069$35956130$6401a8c0@your46e94owx6a>
Message-ID: <FRI.5.JAN.2007.180835.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Thanks to all who offered advice on the Czech expletive "Blazne!"  My  
colleague, Sharon O'Brien, who is editor for the Norton Critical  
Edition of Cather's works also sends her thanks.  The context within  
the story has led us to conclude that something like "you fool!" is  
actually appropriate.  (The expletive is yelled at a horse who shies  
from a jump.  Whether one yells "Fool!" at horses is another matter....)

All best,
Christopher W. Lemelin

========================
Christopher W. Lemelin
Assistant Professor of Russian
Dickinson College
lemelinc at dickinson.edu

(On sabbatical 2006-2007)





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From dshembel at YAHOO.COM  Fri Jan  5 23:14:46 2007
From: dshembel at YAHOO.COM (Daria Shembel)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 18:14:46 -0500
Subject: AAASS 2007: Soviet Film Theory and the West
Message-ID: <FRI.5.JAN.2007.181446.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Seelangers,
We are putting together a panel on the interactions of Soviet Film Theory and the West, which 
deals with the ways in which Soviet Film Theory was approached in the West or influenced Western 
theoreticians/ filmmakers, as well as how Western theorists/filmmakers influenced SFT or even 
later filmmaking. If you are interested in participating as a presenter or chair, please let me know 
as soon as possible. I can be reached at dshembel at yahoo.com 
Thank you very much!

Daria Shembel
Ph.D Candidate
Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures
U of Southern California

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From kpking at MTHOLYOKE.EDU  Sat Jan  6 01:28:00 2007
From: kpking at MTHOLYOKE.EDU (kpking at MTHOLYOKE.EDU)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 20:28:00 -0500
Subject: "Blazne!"
In-Reply-To: <EA0C8358-838C-44D3-BC21-1C7219C0CC6B@dickinson.edu>
Message-ID: <FRI.5.JAN.2007.202800.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

This is the vocative of blazen. Thus more like "you fool!' than "dammit!"

Katya King


Quoting Christopher Lemelin <lemelinc at DICKINSON.EDU>:

> Dear SEELANG-ers,
>
> I have a quick question for Czech speakers.  A colleague of mine is  
> working on the American author Willa Cather, who, I as I understand  
> it, wrote a story called "The Bohemian" (or perhaps the character is  
> referred to this way).
>
> In any case, in the story one character says "Blazne!"  I took only a 
>  year of Czech in grad school and have tried to keep it up a bit  
> myself, but expletives aren't the kind of thing I encounter  
> frequently.  It's clear to me (perhaps incorrectly) that this comes  
> from "blazen," "fool, madman," but my sense is that the expletive has 
>  broadened semantically (or is much more broadly used)....  I want to 
>  say that you could translate this as something as common as "Dammit!"
>
> Could someone enlighten me on Czech expletives?  Please reply off- list to
>
> lemelinc at dickinson.edu
>
> D?kuji!
>
> CWL
>
> ========================
> Christopher W. Lemelin
> Assistant Professor of Russian
> Dickinson College
> lemelinc at dickinson.edu
>
> (On sabbatical 2006-2007)
>
>
>
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From colkitto at ROGERS.COM  Sat Jan  6 18:44:35 2007
From: colkitto at ROGERS.COM (colkitto)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 13:44:35 -0500
Subject: Question for Dostoevsky specialists, especially Karamazov,
 scholars
Message-ID: <SAT.6.JAN.2007.134435.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Mnogouvazaemye SEELANGovcy
Dostojevskovedy

In Karamazov there is a character nicknamed Лягавый (in VIII:2) . 
Apparently the nickname denotes a type of hunting dog.  The form, absent 
from Dal, is an archaic form of  Легавый.

As Karamazov has about 800-1000 pages, it is probably possible to discuss 
the work in detail without any treatment of the name Лягавый.

But on odd occasions it will turn up.

Please answer the following question off the cuff , without looking up - I'm 
interested in general impressions, sort of intuition-based cultural 
connotations, etc..

How obscure do you feel the term Лягавый is? Do you have to explain it to 
students?

Thanks in advance,

Robert Orr

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From shatsev at HOTMAIL.COM  Sat Jan  6 19:11:50 2007
From: shatsev at HOTMAIL.COM (Vladimir Shatsev)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 14:11:50 -0500
Subject: Telogreika and dushegreika in KAPITANSKAYA DOCHKA
In-Reply-To: <C1C425BA.BDA6%kcf19@dial.pipex.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.6.JAN.2007.141150.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Robert,

Telogreyka is not  sleeveless,but it's more like VATNIK : long rough jacket 
or short coat.
Dushegreyka is more delicate thing .It is short and sleeveless with fur 
inwards.

Regards,

Vladimir Shatsev

Language and Drama Teacher

Russian House Community Centre www.russianhouse.ca

Phone.: 416-236-5563
Cell : 416-333-1840

Email: vladimir.shatsev at russianhouse.ca




>From: Robert Chandler <kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
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><SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
>To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
>Subject: [SEELANGS] Telogreika and dushegreika in KAPITANSKAYA DOCHKA
>Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 15:56:42 +0000
>
>Dear all,
>
>Is there much difference between these 2 garments?  Vasilisa Yegorovna 
>wears
>the former; the Empress wears the latter!  Both, as far as I understand,
>seem likely to be padded and sleeveless.
>
>Best Wishes,
>
>R.
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From shatsev at HOTMAIL.COM  Sat Jan  6 19:12:50 2007
From: shatsev at HOTMAIL.COM (Vladimir Shatsev)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 14:12:50 -0500
Subject: Telogreika and dushegreika in KAPITANSKAYA DOCHKA
In-Reply-To: <C1C425BA.BDA6%kcf19@dial.pipex.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.6.JAN.2007.141250.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Robert,

Telogreyka is not  sleeveless,but it's more like VATNIK : long rough jacket 
or short coat.
Dushegreyka is more delicate thing .It is short and sleeveless with fur 
inwards.

Regards,

Vladimir Shatsev

Language and Drama Teacher

Russian House Community Centre www.russianhouse.ca

Phone.: 416-236-5563
Cell : 416-333-1840

Email: vladimir.shatsev at russianhouse.ca




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><SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
>To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
>Subject: [SEELANGS] Telogreika and dushegreika in KAPITANSKAYA DOCHKA
>Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 15:56:42 +0000
>
>Dear all,
>
>Is there much difference between these 2 garments?  Vasilisa Yegorovna 
>wears
>the former; the Empress wears the latter!  Both, as far as I understand,
>seem likely to be padded and sleeveless.
>
>Best Wishes,
>
>R.
>
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From hokanson at UOREGON.EDU  Sat Jan  6 21:32:44 2007
From: hokanson at UOREGON.EDU (Katya Hokanson)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 13:32:44 -0800
Subject: Panelist & Chair needed -- AAASS 2007
Message-ID: <SAT.6.JAN.2007.133244.0800.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear SEELANGtsy,

We would be interested in adding a panelist and a chair to the  
following proposed panel (name subject to change):

"Taboo Topics:  What is Not Discussed in Pushkin and Griboedov [and  
______(?)]"

I will give a paper entitled "Politically Incorrect Pushkin:  the  
Anti-Polish Poems of  1831," and Anna Aydinyan (Yale Univ.) will give  
one entitled "Swept Under the Rug:  Griboedov's Project of a Russian  
Transcaucasian Company."

We have a discussant, Ani Kokobobo (Columbia U.).

The concept of the panel is to look at texts which have been deemed  
unacceptable or unaccepted and hence are usually glossed over,  
ignored, or explained away, rather than given critical analysis.

Please contact me at hokanson at uoregon.edu if you are interested in  
participating.  The final panel title will be changed by mutual  
consent when we have the third speaker.

Sincerely,

Katya Hokanson
Univ. of Oregon 

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From colkitto at ROGERS.COM  Sat Jan  6 22:05:43 2007
From: colkitto at ROGERS.COM (colkitto)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 17:05:43 -0500
Subject: Question for Dostoevsky specialists, especially Karamazov,
 scholars
Message-ID: <SAT.6.JAN.2007.170543.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Mnogouvazaemye SEELANGovcy
Dostojevskovedy

In Karamazov there is a character nicknamed Лягавый (in VIII:2) .
Apparently the nickname denotes a type of hunting dog.  The form, absent
from Dal, is an archaic form of  Легавый.

As Karamazov has about 800-1000 pages, it is probably possible to discuss
the work in detail without any treatment of the name Лягавый.

But on odd occasions it will turn up.

Please answer the following question off the cuff , without looking up - I'm
interested in general impressions, sort of intuition-based cultural
connotations, etc..

How obscure do you feel the term Лягавый is? Do you have to explain it to
students?

Thanks in advance,

Robert Orr 

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From caron.4 at OSU.EDU  Sun Jan  7 02:48:49 2007
From: caron.4 at OSU.EDU (Inna Caron)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 21:48:49 -0500
Subject: Question for Dostoevsky specialists, especially Karamazov,
 scholars
In-Reply-To: <00cf01c731de$d0066810$1a18694a@yourg9zekrp5zf>
Message-ID: <SAT.6.JAN.2007.214849.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Yes, a hunting dog, but even more so, at least in the 20th-century
criminal jargon, it denotes a cop.

Inna 

-----Original Message-----
From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
[mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of colkitto
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 5:06 PM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Question for Dostoevsky specialists, especially
Karamazov, scholars

Mnogouvazaemye SEELANGovcy
Dostojevskovedy

In Karamazov there is a character nicknamed Лягавый (in VIII:2) .
Apparently the nickname denotes a type of hunting dog.  The form, absent
from Dal, is an archaic form of  Легавый.

As Karamazov has about 800-1000 pages, it is probably possible to
discuss
the work in detail without any treatment of the name Лягавый.

But on odd occasions it will turn up.

Please answer the following question off the cuff , without looking up -
I'm
interested in general impressions, sort of intuition-based cultural
connotations, etc..

How obscure do you feel the term Лягавый is? Do you have to explain it
to
students?

Thanks in advance,

Robert Orr 

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From cwoolhis at FAS.HARVARD.EDU  Sun Jan  7 05:09:07 2007
From: cwoolhis at FAS.HARVARD.EDU (Curt F. Woolhiser)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 00:09:07 -0500
Subject: AAASS: Contested Ethnicities and Languages
Message-ID: <SUN.7.JAN.2007.000907.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear SEELANGers,

A colleague and I are looking for additional participants for a panel on
contested ethnicities and languages for the AAASS convention in New Orleans. A
brief description of the panel follows:

Contested Ethnicities and Languages in the Slavic World

This panel will focus on emerging and/or contested ethnolinguistic groups in
the Slavic world (e.g. Kashubians, Rusyns, Lemkos, Polesians, Podlasians,
Silesians, Moravians, etc.), addressing such issues as language and
ethnic/regional/social identity, the rise (and in some cases, fall) of regional
movements and regionalist discourses in the Slavic-speaking countries both
within and outside the European Union, the creation of new Slavic literary
(micro-)languages, and the political, cultural, ideological and socio-economic
factors influencing these processes. Papers may represent work in one or more
of the following disciplines: sociolinguistics, anthropology, ethnography,
sociology and political science.

If you would be interested in reading a paper on this panel, please e-mail me
(cwoolhis at fas.harvard.edu) with a tentative title and a short CV by January 11.

Best regards,

Curt Woolhiser

===================================
Curt Woolhiser
Preceptor in Slavic Languages
Department of Slavic Languages
and Literatures
Harvard University
12 Quincy St., Barker Center
Cambridge, MA 02138-3879 USA

Tel. (617) 495-3528
Fax (617) 496-4466
email: cwoolhis at fas.harvard.edu
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From cwoolhis at FAS.HARVARD.EDU  Sun Jan  7 05:22:05 2007
From: cwoolhis at FAS.HARVARD.EDU (Curt F. Woolhiser)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 00:22:05 -0500
Subject: 2006 Zora Kipel Prize Awards
Message-ID: <SUN.7.JAN.2007.002205.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Winners of the 2006 Zora Kipel Prizes for Publications in Belarusian Studies

The North American Association for Belarusian Studies (NAABS) and the family of
Zora Kipel are pleased to announce the winners of the first (2006) Zora Kipel
Memorial Prize competition for publications in Belarusian studies. The $500.00
book prize has been awarded to Andrej Kotlarchuk (Stockholm, Sweden) for his
innovative study of the Swedish presence in Belarusian history and culture,
"Shvedy u historyi j kultury belarusau" [The Swedes in the History and Culture
of the Belarusians] (Miensk: Encyklapiedyks, 2002). The $200.00 article prize
has been awarded to Uladzimer Kalupajeu (Miensk) for his important contribution
to the history of Belarusian economic thought, "Zabyty renesans: bielaruskaja
ekanamichnaja shkola 1920-kh hh. [Forgotten Renaissance: the Belarusian
Economic School of the 1920s] (Arche 1, 2005).

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From evans-ro at OHIO.EDU  Sun Jan  7 15:58:32 2007
From: evans-ro at OHIO.EDU (Karen Evans-Romaine)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 10:58:32 -0500
Subject: call for papers: volume on teaching through theater
Message-ID: <SUN.7.JAN.2007.105832.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Seelangers,

The following is a courtesy posting. Please respond to the colleagues whose
contact information is at the bottom of this message.

Karen Evans-Romaine
Director, Davis School of Russian, Middlebury College
Associate Professor of Russian, Ohio University

Call for papers

Dramatic Interactions: Teaching Literature, Culture, and Language through Theater

In the last twenty years, the use of dramatic techniques has increasingly
contributed to foreign language teaching methodology, bringing life and
excitement to in-class practice and promoting the speaking of the language
outside the class.  In many cases, staging and performing cultural situations
and literary works in the foreign language have been of primary importance in
the actual process of comprehending the �other.� This volume will offer a
panorama of the most recent and concrete experiences and methodologies of the
teaching of literature, culture, and language through theater and drama used in
secondary and higher foreign language instruction.  

We welcome articles of theoretical and practical orientation that deal with the
teaching methodology of literature, culture, and language through theater and
drama at any level of the acquisition of the language.  In particular, we seek
contributions from the following fields: foreign language acquisition, teaching
pedagogy, performative studies, literature in the foreign language curriculum,
cultural studies, and cross-cultural communication studies. Examples from less
commonly taught languages and multimedia integration are strongly encouraged. 

Please send an abstract of 500 words and a bibliography to both Colleen
Ryan-Scheutz and Nicoletta Marini-Maio by March 1, 2007.

Colleen Ryan-Scheutz, Ph.D.
William M. Scholl Chair, Associate Professor of Italian
Director of Italian Language Program
University of Notre Dame
Department of Romance Languages and Literatures
Notre Dame, IN 46556 (U.S.A.)
Ph: (574) 631-3835
Fax: (574) 631-3493
email ryan.104 at nd.edu

Nicoletta Marini-Maio
Assistant Professor of Italian
Middlebury College
Department of Italian
Voter Hall 111
Middlebury College
Middlebury, VT 05753 (USA)
Ph: (802) 443-5977
Fax: (802) 443-2251
email nmarini at middlebury.edu

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From cwoolhis at FAS.HARVARD.EDU  Sun Jan  7 16:22:35 2007
From: cwoolhis at FAS.HARVARD.EDU (Curt F. Woolhiser)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 11:22:35 -0500
Subject: Call for Entries: 2007 Zora Kipel Prize Competition
Message-ID: <SUN.7.JAN.2007.112235.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Call for Entries: 2007 Zora Kipel Book and Article Prize Competition

The North American Association for Belarusian Studies (NAABS) and the family of
Zora Kipel are pleased to solicit entries for the 2007 Zora Kipel Prize
competition. The prizes, $500.00 for books and $200.00 for articles, will be
awarded to the authors of outstanding new publications in the fields of
Belarusian cultural studies, linguistics, literature, history and politics.
Books and articles published between 2003 and 2007 in either English or
Belarusian are eligible. Winners will be selected by a panel of judges made up
of NAABS officers and members. To enter the competition, please send a copy of
your book or article to the following address by June 1, 2007:

Dr. Curt Woolhiser
Harvard University
Department of Slavic Languages
and Literatures
Barker Center 327, 12 Quincy St.
Cambridge, MA 02138-3804

Winners will be announced in the fall of 2007.


Zora Kipel (1927-2003):
an appreciation
By Thomas E. Bird (CUNY-Queens College) (published in full in Zapisy/Annals
(Belarusian Institute of Arts and Sciences, New York) (New York-Miensk 2004),
27, p. 7).

"Zora Kipel will be remembered by generations to come as a pioneer researcher
who dedicated her life to investigating, rescuing, and helping to preserve
fully and accurately the history and culture of her nation.
   A member of an indomitable generation who survived the Second World War and
went on to build remarkable academic and intellectual careers, she was impelled
by temperament to pursue interests beyond the boundaries of any single
discipline.
    With a flair for responsibility and endowed with unparalleled modesty, she
pursued thoroughness, authenticity, and integrity in both her personal life and
professional work. Courteous and honest in her dealings with others, she was a
cherished cicerone of close friends, visiting scholars, and far-flung
correspondents -- from all of whom she won respect.... "
     "She made a significant contribution to the field of Belarusica through her
research, editing, and collecting, combined with a kaleidoscopic variety of
civic and bibliotecal activities. An omniverous reader, her own research
focused on literary influences. Dr. Jan Zaprudnik has chronicled her
accomplishments in detail." [please see bibliography in Zapisy 27 (2004), pp.
27-34].
    "...Her knowledge, insight and wisdom, her warmth and friendship will be
sorely missed.
      May her memory be eternal!"

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From dalbello at SCILS.RUTGERS.EDU  Sun Jan  7 16:54:05 2007
From: dalbello at SCILS.RUTGERS.EDU (marija dalbello)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 11:54:05 -0500
Subject: Announcing a new book history journal: Libellarium
Message-ID: <SUN.7.JAN.2007.115405.0500.>

Dear SEELANGS Community,

In order to help my colleagues in Croatia launch a new journal that aims
to  address issues relevant to Slavic scholars and as member of its newly
formed editorial board, I am forwarding this call for papers for the first
issue. I hope you will consider submitting your work to Libellarium.
Please note that the journal seeks conceptual and theoretical
contributions in English for its inaugural 2007 issue.

Best regards,

Marija Dalbello

___________________________________________________________________________

CALL FOR PAPERS

Libellarium, Journal for the history of written word, books and memory
institutions
Number 1, 1 (2007)

Dear Colleague,
We are pleased to launch the first call for papers for the newly
established journal for the history of written word, books and memory
institutions. The Journal, Libellarium, will be published by the
University of Zadar, Croatia.
For the first issue we are inviting two kinds of papers, both dealing with
the history of books. The first should contribute to discussions referring
to the substance of book history and its methodological issues (What is
the book history today? Could it be an independent scientific discipline?
What is the state of research in different countries? Etc.).
The second should address a wide range of questions regarding the use of
sources in book history. Contributors are encouraged to interpret the
topics such as bibliographies as a source for the book history, printers’
catalogues and advertisements as a source for the book history, book
dedications and forewords as a source for the book history, missionary
reports as a source for the book history and so forth. We welcome papers
taking an interdisciplinary approach that productively combine history,
literary, and sociology with book history methodologies.

All potential contributors are kindly requested to send an abstracts with
a title (500 words maximum) by 1 February 2007 to e-mail address
zvelagic at ffos.hr. The final versions of papers are expected by 5 April
2007.
All contributions should be submitted in English and not exceed 8000 words
in length (including notes). Please use Chicago Manual of Style,
Author-Date System, available at http://www.libs.uga.edu/ref/chicago.html.
Before publication all contributions will be reviewed by two independent
referees. The English of the submitted manuscripts should be of a suitable
quality for publishing.
Please do not hesitate to request further information if needed, and
address all correspondence to zvelagic at ffos.hr.
Sincerely yours,
Zoran Velagi&#263;, University of Osijek



-- 
 Marija Dalbello, Ph.D.
 Associate Professor
 Department of Library and Information Science
 School of Communication, Information and Library Studies
 Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey
 4 Huntington Street
 New Brunswick, New Jersey 08901-1071
 Voice: 732.932.7500 / 8215
 Internet: dalbello at scils.rutgers.edu
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From kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM  Sun Jan  7 18:51:25 2007
From: kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Robert Chandler)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 18:51:25 +0000
Subject: (Kap dochka) Khorosh gus'
Message-ID: <SUN.7.JAN.2007.185125.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear all,

Pyotr returns to Belogorsk to rescue Masha.  He goes to the priest’s house.
Akulina then talks at him for some time.  She comes out with one phrase
which I entirely understand but cannot translate adequately:
Ай-да Алексей Иванович: хорош гусь!
Ai-da Aleksey Ivanovich: khorosh gus’
At present I have ‘And as for Shvabrin…  He’s a fine fellow and no mistake!’
This is obviously less vivid than the original.  And it is a pity to lose
the goose, all the more so since there a fair number of pigeons, eagles,
ravens and swans are mentioned in the course of the work.

Unfortunately, we tend to think of geese as being silly (You silly goose!),
and Shvabrin is far from silly.  Does anyone have any inspired suggestions?

R




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From aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU  Sun Jan  7 18:58:20 2007
From: aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU (Alina Israeli)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 13:58:20 -0500
Subject: (Kap dochka) Khorosh gus'
In-Reply-To: <C1C6F1AD.BFAA%kcf19@dial.pipex.com>
Message-ID: <SUN.7.JAN.2007.135820.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

No, хорош гусь is an ironic statement: some X.
Lubensky dictionary (do you have it? I highly recommend it) the  
expression is "used to express one's scornful or ironic attitude  
toward s.o."  — what a rascal, louse, weasel etc.

On Jan 7, 2007, at 1:51 PM, Robert Chandler wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> Pyotr returns to Belogorsk to rescue Masha.  He goes to the  
> priest’s house.
> Akulina then talks at him for some time.  She comes out with one  
> phrase
> which I entirely understand but cannot translate adequately:
> Ай-да Алексей Иванович: хорош гусь!
> Ai-da Aleksey Ivanovich: khorosh gus’
> At present I have ‘And as for Shvabrin…  He’s a fine fellow and no  
> mistake!’
> This is obviously less vivid than the original.  And it is a pity  
> to lose
> the goose, all the more so since there a fair number of pigeons,  
> eagles,
> ravens and swans are mentioned in the course of the work.
>
> Unfortunately, we tend to think of geese as being silly (You silly  
> goose!),
> and Shvabrin is far from silly.  Does anyone have any inspired  
> suggestions?
>
> R
>
>
>
>
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From paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM  Sun Jan  7 19:25:13 2007
From: paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM (Paul B. Gallagher)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 14:25:13 -0500
Subject: (Kap dochka) Khorosh gus'
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Alina Israeli wrote:

> No, хорош гусь is an ironic statement: some X.
> Lubensky dictionary (do you have it? I highly recommend it) the  
> expression is "used to express one's scornful or ironic attitude  toward 
> s.o."  — what a rascal, louse, weasel etc.

"He's a real piece of work"?
(may be wrong century for a translation)

-- 
War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
--
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From maria.basom at UNI.EDU  Sun Jan  7 20:14:23 2007
From: maria.basom at UNI.EDU (=?koi8-r?Q?Maria_Basom?=)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 15:14:23 -0500
Subject: AAASS 2007 panel on art policy
Message-ID: <SUN.7.JAN.2007.151423.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear SEELANGers,

 I need one more paper to complete a panel on art policy in Russia (history 
and/or current policies regarding the arts). Please get in touch with me 
off-list (maria.basom at cfu.net)ASAP if you are interested in presenting a 
paper and please forward this request to anyone who might be interested 
(keep in mind the Jan 12 deadline).

Thanks!

Maria Basom
Professor of Russian
Modern Languages
University of Northern Iowa
Cedar Falls, IA 50614-0504
(319) 266-9056
maria.basom at cfu.net

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From Subhash.Jaireth at GA.GOV.AU  Sun Jan  7 21:50:44 2007
From: Subhash.Jaireth at GA.GOV.AU (Subhash.Jaireth at GA.GOV.AU)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 08:50:44 +1100
Subject: Dunya Efros
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Hi All,

It is well known that Chekhov was engaged to be Dunya Efros, his sister's
friend. I am looking for any surviving photos of Efros. Would love to hear
from some one who has more information about her. In Donald Rayfield's
biography of Chekhov it is mentioned that she was in France during the second
world war, imprisoned and then gassed. Terrible.

Thanks

Subhash



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From donna.orwin at UTORONTO.CA  Mon Jan  8 01:16:05 2007
From: donna.orwin at UTORONTO.CA (Donna Orwin)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 20:16:05 -0500
Subject: Tolstoy Conference
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Dear Colleagues,
 
I want to remind those of you who expressed interest in the Tolstoy
conference at Iasnaia Poliana this summer that the application is due on
February 1.  For more details, go to tolstoystudies.org.
 
Sincerely yours,
 
Donna Tussing Orwin
 
----------------------------
Prof. Donna Tussing Orwin
President, Tolstoy Society
Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures
University of Toronto
Alumni Hall 415
121 St. Joseph St. 
Toronto. ON M5S 1J4
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From ameliede at EARTHLINK.NET  Mon Jan  8 01:21:41 2007
From: ameliede at EARTHLINK.NET (Jules Levin)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 17:21:41 -0800
Subject: (Kap dochka) Khorosh gus'
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Message-ID: <SUN.7.JAN.2007.172141.0800.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

At 11:25 AM 1/7/2007, you wrote:
>Alina Israeli wrote:
>
>>No, õîðîø ãóñü is an ironic statement: some X.


I wonder what the origin is?
Consider a German (actually I know it from 
Yiddish) 'ganz gut', which means both
'quite good' and 'the goose [is] good...'
Could the Russian have originated in some cross-language joke?
Jules Levin

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From rar at SLAVIC.UMASS.EDU  Mon Jan  8 02:04:48 2007
From: rar at SLAVIC.UMASS.EDU (Robert A. Rothstein)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 21:04:48 -0500
Subject: (Kap dochka) Khorosh gus'
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Jules Levin wrote:
> I wonder what the origin is?
> Consider a German (actually I know it from Yiddish) 'ganz gut', which 
> means both
> 'quite good' and 'the goose [is] good...'
> Could the Russian have originated in some cross-language joke?
    The dictionary _Russkaia frazeologiia. Istoriko-etimologicheskii 
slovar'_, compiled by Birikh, Mokienko and Stepanova (3rd. ed., 2005) 
suggests the following: "Blagodaria tomu, chto gus' v bukval'nom smysle 
vykhodit iz vody sukhim (voda skatyvaetsia s ego per'ev), slovo _gus'_ 
priobrelo perenosnoe znachenie 'lovkii, plutovatyi chelovek, proidokha'. 
Eto znachenie realizuetsia v slovosochetaniiach: _Nu i gus'! Khorosh 
gus'!" (p. 172).
    The phrase "v bukval'nom smysle" is an allusion to the proverbial 
comparison (in Russian, Polish and elsewhere) "kak s gusia voda," the 
English equivalent of which is "like water off a duck's back."
    Jules Levin's Yiddish example is part of a bit of joking dialog: If 
someone says (in Yiddish) "gants gut" (quite good/well), which is 
homonymous (in some, but not all, Yiddish dialects) with "gandz gut," 
the comeback line is "kachke nokh beser" (a duck [is] even better).

Bob Rothstein

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From s-hill4 at UIUC.EDU  Mon Jan  8 06:50:29 2007
From: s-hill4 at UIUC.EDU (Prof Steven P Hill)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 00:50:29 -0600
Subject: LIAGAVYI & GUS' in Engl. translation
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Date: Mon 8 Jan 00:23:02 CST 2007
From: <LISTSERV at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>  
Subject: Re: GETPOST SEELANGS 
To: Steven Hill <S-HILL4 at UIUC.EDU>

Dear colleagues & Profs Chandler, Orr, & Colkitto:

1.  LIAGAVYI in the sense of "pursuing policeman" might be 
translated, for the lack of anything better,  as "bird dog."

2.  KHOROSH GUS', if nothing else works, might be translated as 
"fine-feathered friend," although that may not quite fit the sense 
here. 

Best wishes to all,
Steven P Hill,
University of Illinois.
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Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 21:48:49 -0500
From: Inna Caron <caron.4 at OSU.EDU> 
Subject: Re: Question for Dostoevsky specialists, esp. Karamazov, scholars 

Yes, a hunting dog, but even more so, at least in the 20th-century
criminal jargon, it denotes a cop.
Inna
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especially Karamazov, scholars

Mnogouvazaemye SEELANGovcy,  Dostojevskovedy
In Karamazov there is a character nicknamed Лягавый (in VIII:2) .
Apparently the nickname denotes a type of hunting dog.  The form, 
absent from Dal, is an archaic form of  Легавый.
As Karamazov has about 800-1000 pages, it is probably possible to
discussthe work in detail without any treatment of the name Лягавый.
But on odd occasions it will turn up.
Please answer the following question off the cuff , without looking up -
I'm interested in general impressions, sort of intuition-based cultural
connotations, etc..
How obscure do you feel the term Лягавый is? Do you have to explain it
tostudents?

Thanks in advance,
Robert Orr 
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Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 18:51:25 +0000
From: Robert Chandler <kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM> 
Subject: (Kap dochka) Khorosh gus' 

Dear all, 
Pyotr returns to Belogorsk to rescue Masha.  He goes to the priest’s house. 
Akulina then talks at him for some time.  She comes out with one phrase 
which I entirely understand but cannot translate adequately: 
Ай-да Алексей Иванович: хорош гусь! 
Ai-da Aleksey Ivanovich: khorosh gus’ 
At present I have ‘And as for Shvabrin…  He’s a fine fellow and no mistake!’ 
This is obviously less vivid than the original.  And it is a pity to lose 
the goose, all the more so since there a fair number of pigeons, eagles, 
ravens and swans are mentioned in the course of the work. 
Unfortunately, we tend to think of geese as being silly (You silly goose!), 
and Shvabrin is far from silly.  Does anyone have any inspired suggestions? 
R
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From Alexandra.Smith at SHEFFIELD.AC.UK  Mon Jan  8 08:52:08 2007
From: Alexandra.Smith at SHEFFIELD.AC.UK (A Smith)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 08:52:08 +0000
Subject: (Kap dochka) Khorosh gus'
In-Reply-To: <C1C6F1AD.BFAA%kcf19@dial.pipex.com>
Message-ID: <MON.8.JAN.2007.085208.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Robert,

I think that the best way to render the phrase 'khorosh gus'" into English is by
using an expression "what a scoundrel", i.e. to emphasise that some people give
an impression of behaving dishonorably towards others.
See, for example one article on Zoschenko:
http://www.pnp.ru/archive/p14310947.html
This article includes a story about one spectator who said to his friend about
one French play adapted for the Russian audience: "A etot Zoschenko...khorosh
gus'! Vse slizal u Diuma, dazhe drugie imena dlia geroev pridumat' ne mog!".

All very best,
Sasha 

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From lino59 at AMERITECH.NET  Mon Jan  8 16:45:00 2007
From: lino59 at AMERITECH.NET (Deborah Hoffman)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 08:45:00 -0800
Subject: khorosh gus'
In-Reply-To: <SEELANGS%200701080000141540.8255@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
Message-ID: <MON.8.JAN.2007.084500.0800.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I know I should remember how to do this, but how does one convert this type of encoding -  I believe it involves a copy and paste into Word? Thanks to anyone!

  -------------------------------------------------
   
  
>
> She comes out with one phrase
>which I entirely understand but cannot translate adequately:
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=F5=EE=F0=EE=F8 =E3=F3=F1=FC!
Ai-da Aleksey Ivanovich: khorosh gus=92
At present I have =91And as for Shvabrin=85  He=92s a fine fellow and 
no mistake!=
=92

   
   
   

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From lypark at UIUC.EDU  Mon Jan  8 20:46:45 2007
From: lypark at UIUC.EDU (Lynda Park)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 14:46:45 -0600
Subject: 2007 Fulbright-Hays seminar in Russia for K-12 Educators
Message-ID: <MON.8.JAN.2007.144645.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

2007 Fulbright-Hays GPA Short-Term Seminar in Russia for K-12 Educators
"Understanding Russia through Everyday Life"

June 20- July 23, 2007 (dates tentative)
June 20–24 Pre-departure workshop at the University of Illinois
June 25–July 23 Seminar in Russia

The Russian, East European, and Eurasian Center (REEEC) at the University 
of Illinois at Urbana–Champaign, in conjunction with faculty at Illinois 
State University in Bloomington-Normal, has submitted a grant application 
for a Fulbright–Hays Group Project Abroad (GPA) to lead a short-term 
seminar in Russia on “Understanding Russia through Everyday Life” for 
maximum fifteen K-12 educators.  The seminar will take place mainly in 
Vladimir, Russia, followed by trips to Murom, St. Petersburg, and 
Moscow.  The seminar will be preceded by a curriculum development 
workshop/predeparture orientation to be held at the University of Illinois, 
Urbana-Champaign.

Although the Fulbright-Hays GPA grant for this program is still pending 
(expected notification date: March 2007), we are proceeding with the 
participant application for the seminar to Russia. Please be aware that the 
proposed seminar is contingent on the grant funding approval.

Application Deadline: February 23, 2007 (postmarked)

For complete information, see http://www.reec.uiuc.edu/outreach/fulbright.htm

To request a hard copy of the application, contact:

Lynda Y. Park, Associate Director
Russian, East European, and Eurasian Center
University of Illinois
104 International Studies Building, MC-487
910 South Fifth Street
Champaign, IL 61820
(217) 333-6022, 333-1244; fax (217) 333-1582
lypark at uiuc.edu
http://www.reec.uiuc.edu

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From kmhst16 at PITT.EDU  Mon Jan  8 20:54:55 2007
From: kmhst16 at PITT.EDU (K. M. Harkness)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 15:54:55 -0500
Subject: AAASS 2007 panel on art policy
In-Reply-To: <LISTSERV%200701071514236700.75F7@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
Message-ID: <MON.8.JAN.2007.155455.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Dr. Basom,

The final chapter of my dissertation deals with Russian art & craft at the
1900 World¹s Fair.  I am currently researching the selection of the
committees and the artists for the exhibition.  While this topic is not
strictly government art policy, I feel that it could round out your panel
nicely.  Let me know what you think.

Thanks.

Kristen

-- 
Kristen Harkness
University of Pittsburgh
Department of the History of Art and Architecture
104 Frick Fine Arts Building
Pittsburgh, PA  15224-2213
kmhst16 at pitt.edu



On 1/7/07 3:14 PM, "Maria Basom" <maria.basom at UNI.EDU> wrote:

> Dear SEELANGers,
> 
>  I need one more paper to complete a panel on art policy in Russia (history
> and/or current policies regarding the arts). Please get in touch with me
> off-list (maria.basom at cfu.net)ASAP if you are interested in presenting a
> paper and please forward this request to anyone who might be interested
> (keep in mind the Jan 12 deadline).
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Maria Basom
> Professor of Russian
> Modern Languages
> University of Northern Iowa
> Cedar Falls, IA 50614-0504
> (319) 266-9056
> maria.basom at cfu.net
> 
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From kmhst16 at PITT.EDU  Mon Jan  8 20:57:10 2007
From: kmhst16 at PITT.EDU (K. M. Harkness)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 15:57:10 -0500
Subject: Sorry!
Message-ID: <MON.8.JAN.2007.155710.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Sorry everyone‹after years of smirking behind my computer at people who
manage to send private messages to the list, I¹ve finally done it myself.
Pride goeth...

Mea culpa!

Kristen

-- 
Kristen Harkness
University of Pittsburgh
Department of the History of Art and Architecture
104 Frick Fine Arts Building
Pittsburgh, PA  15224-2213
kmhst16 at pitt.edu


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From mlermontov at RCN.COM  Mon Jan  8 21:04:45 2007
From: mlermontov at RCN.COM (mikhail lipyanskiy)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 16:04:45 -0500
Subject: AAASS 2007 Panels
Message-ID: <MON.8.JAN.2007.160445.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I am sorry all if this is incorrect to ask, but since I am completly new to 
this...

Is there a full list of panels avaliable somewhere? I havent seen any panel 
proposals for medieval Russian lit, are there just none this year?

thanks!

ML 

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From j-kaminer at NORTHWESTERN.EDU  Mon Jan  8 22:19:13 2007
From: j-kaminer at NORTHWESTERN.EDU (Jenny Kaminer)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 22:19:13 +0000
Subject: AAASS panel on motherhood in 19th-cent Russian lit/culture
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From tpolowy at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Mon Jan  8 22:51:06 2007
From: tpolowy at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Teresa Polowy)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 15:51:06 -0700
Subject: AAASS panel on alcohol in literature
Message-ID: <MON.8.JAN.2007.155106.0700.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Hello Colleagues,
As a result of my earlier postings concerning an AAASS panel
on the representation of alcohol/alcohol abuse in Russian and Slavic
literatures, I have received enough interest for two complete panels. However, I
would be happy to add one more presentation to round off one of the panels. So I
welcome suggestions for papers on 18th, 19th, 20th, and contemporary literary
texts which represent alcohol/alcohol abuse.

Again, if you are interested in participating on such a panel, please
contact me off-list with a title, a brief paragraph outlining the paper, and a
short CV -- tpolowy at email.arizona.edu

Teresa Polowy, Head
Russian and Slavic Studies
University of Arizona







Hello Colleagues,

I am organizing a panel for AAAASS dealing with the representation of
alcohol/alcohol abuse in Russian or other Slavic literature from the 1960s to
the present. If you are interested in participating on such a panel, please
contact me off-list with a title, a brief paragraph outlining the paper, and a
short CV -- tpolowy at email.arizona.edu

Thanks!

Happy  Holidays

Teresa Polowy, Head
Russian and Slavic Studies
University of Arizona

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Teresa Polowy,Head
Department of Russian and Slavic Studies
University of Arizona

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Teresa Polowy,Head
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University of Arizona

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From padunov+ at PITT.EDU  Tue Jan  9 15:51:26 2007
From: padunov+ at PITT.EDU (padunov)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 10:51:26 -0500
Subject: KinoKultura 15 (January 2007)
Message-ID: <TUE.9.JAN.2007.105126.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Issue 15 (January 2007) of KinoKultura is now available online:
 http://www.kinokultura.com/2007/issue15.shtml

Articles:
Peter Bagrov: Ermler, Stalin, and Animation: On the Film The Peasants (1934)
Birgit Beumers and Michael Rouland: Eurasia 2006: An International Festival?
Konstantine Klioutchkine: The Kamenskaia Television Series and the
Conventions of Russian Television
Alena Solntseva: KINOTEATR.DOC: The First Three Years
 
Reviews: feature films
977 by Nikolai Khomeriki  (Anindita Banerjee) 
Alive by Aleksandr Veledinskii (Elena Monastireva-Ansdell)
Borat with Sacha Baron Cohen (Nancy Condee)
Euphoria by Ivan Vyrypaev (Fiona Bjorling) 
The Fall of Berlin by Mikhail Chiaureli (Richard Taylor)
Free Floating by Boris Khlebnikov (Julian Graffy)
Hunting for Piranha by Andrei Kavun (Jeremy Morris)
Inhale - Exhale by Ivan Dykhovichnyi (Vida Johnson)
The Island by Pavel Lungin (Mark Lipovetsky)
Soviet Period Park by Iulii Gusman (Evgenii Dobrenko)
The Spring (Uzbekistan) by Yolqin To'ychiyev (David MacFadyen)
Transit by Aleksandr Rogozhkin (Natasha Rulyova)
The Wanderer by Sergei Karandashov (Alyssa DeBlasio)
The Worm by Aleksei Muradov (Daniel Wild)

Reviews: documentary
Girls by Valeriia Germanica (Michelle Kuhn)

Reviews: television serials
The Golden Calf by Ul'iana Shilkina (Irina Makoveeva)
The First Circle by Gleb Panfilov (Elena Prokhorova)

And a sensational video comes with Peter Bagov's article: Mikhail
Pashchenko's animation of Stalin for Varvara's dream in Ermler's The
Peasants (1934)
 
We have also opened a discussion forum with the January 2007 issue, which
will allow readers to comment on the films and articles of each issue, as
well as topics relating to past issues. In order to make a comment, please
follow the FORUM link and register: this is to avoid spam and follows a
platform similar to Live Journal.

_________________________________________
Vladimir Padunov
Associate Director, Film Studies Program
Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures
427 Cathedral of Learning           voice: 1-412-624-5713
University of Pittsburgh               FAX: 1-412-624-9714
Pittsburgh, PA 15260                        padunov at pitt.edu

Russian Film Symposium   http://www.rusfilm.pitt.edu

KinoKultura                       http://www.kinokultura.com

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From donna.orwin at UTORONTO.CA  Tue Jan  9 17:14:40 2007
From: donna.orwin at UTORONTO.CA (Donna Orwin)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 12:14:40 -0500
Subject: Sleeping Arrangements
Message-ID: <TUE.9.JAN.2007.121440.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Colleagues,
 
One of my students has asked me about the sleeping arrangements for
married couples among high society Russians in the nineteenth century.
Do they share the same bedroom and bed, or do they tend to have their
own rooms, with the husband visiting the wife for conjugal relations?
Do the arrangements change as the century goes on, and do different
classes have different rules?  Different works of fiction seem to differ
on this point.  Where in the house or apartment do lovers meet and sin
when the husband is not home?  Has anyone written about this subject?  
 
Sincerely, and thanks in advance for the information,
 
Donna Orwin
 
----------------------------
Prof. Donna Tussing Orwin
President, Tolstoy Society
Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures
University of Toronto
Alumni Hall 415
121 St. Joseph St. 
Toronto. ON M5S 1J4
Tel. 416-926-1300. ext. 3316
 

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From rjs19 at COLUMBIA.EDU  Tue Jan  9 17:56:53 2007
From: rjs19 at COLUMBIA.EDU (Rebecca Jane Stanton)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 12:56:53 -0500
Subject: translation query: 1950s Soviet usage
Message-ID: <TUE.9.JAN.2007.125653.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear SEELANGers,
I'm posting the following inquiry on behalf of a historian colleague.  
Please feel free to reply to the list or to Professor Roth-Ey directly, 
as you deem appropriate.  Her email address is krothey at yahoo.com .

The substance of the query:
The following is an excerpt from a 1956 article by Igor Il'inskii (the 
comedian) in Literaturnaia gazeta, wherein he browbeats his fellow 
artists for snubbing television.  He writes:
"Takaia pozitsiia predstavlaetsia mne antigosudarstvennoi. Davaite 
rukovodstvovat'sia soobrazheniiami tvorcheskimi, ideinymi, a ne odnoi 
tol'ko zabotei o povyshenii sborov. Ved' my delaem odno i to zhe delo. 
Kak zhe mozhno davat' narodu vmesto luchshikh -- khudshie obraztsy 
iskusstva, stalo byt', rasprostraniat' ikh na gigantskuiu auditoriiu. I 
kto my, v kontse kontsov, --komersanty ili politiki?* *Ia ubezhden, shto 
televidenie nikogda ne zaimet mesta teatra..."
** 
The question concerns the use of the term "politiki" here.  In 1956, is 
it probable that the term only refers to "Western" or "Western-style" 
politicians?  Should a responsible translation render the word not just 
as "politicians" but as "Western-style [or some other adjective] 
politicians"?   For scholarly purposes, the translation
needs to convey the nuance of what Il'inskii means here.

All expert opinions will be appreciated!
Thanks,
RJS

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From newsnet at FAS.HARVARD.EDU  Tue Jan  9 18:14:24 2007
From: newsnet at FAS.HARVARD.EDU (NewsNet)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 13:14:24 -0500
Subject: AAASS 2007 Panels
In-Reply-To: <001201c73368$a0182220$8800a8c0@mmdq8on3oz6yyt>
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Dear Mikhail,

There is no "live" list of panels proposed for the AAASS convention 
available to the public. The preliminary program of the ACCEPTED 
panels will be released some time in May and posted to the AAASS web 
site, the preliminary program will be printed in the August 2007 
issue of NewsNet, and the final program will be distributed at the convention.

If you have a proposal for a panel about medieval Russian literature 
in mind, please do submit it by Friday, January 12.

sincerely,
Jolanta Davis

At 04:04 PM 1/8/2007, mikhail lipyanskiy wrote:
>I am sorry all if this is incorrect to ask, but since I am completly 
>new to this...
>
>Is there a full list of panels avaliable somewhere? I havent seen 
>any panel proposals for medieval Russian lit, are there just none this year?
>
>thanks!
>
>ML
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From greniers at GEORGETOWN.EDU  Tue Jan  9 18:24:51 2007
From: greniers at GEORGETOWN.EDU (Svetlana Grenier)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 13:24:51 -0500
Subject: translation query: 1950s Soviet usage
Message-ID: <TUE.9.JAN.2007.132451.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Rebecca,

To me it does not at all sound like "Western-style politicians" in this context.  It sounds like a positive term:  he is opposing it as a positive to the negative "kommersanty," who are ruled by financial considerations alone, while a Soviet politician (statesman) is ruled by ideological considerations first of all (which include the good of the nation/people).  In that sense this position as "kommersant" is also called "antigosudarstvennaia positsiia".  I can remember the Soviet usage praising various leaders for being "mudryi politik" (growing up in Russia in the 60s-70s).

Best, 
Svetlana Grenier



----- Original Message -----
From: Rebecca Jane Stanton <rjs19 at COLUMBIA.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, January 9, 2007 12:56 pm
Subject: [SEELANGS] translation query: 1950s Soviet usage

> Dear SEELANGers,
> I'm posting the following inquiry on behalf of a historian 
> colleague.  
> Please feel free to reply to the list or to Professor Roth-Ey 
> directly, 
> as you deem appropriate.  Her email address is krothey at yahoo.com .
> 
> The substance of the query:
> The following is an excerpt from a 1956 article by Igor Il'inskii 
> (the 
> comedian) in Literaturnaia gazeta, wherein he browbeats his fellow 
> artists for snubbing television.  He writes:
> "Takaia pozitsiia predstavlaetsia mne antigosudarstvennoi. Davaite 
> rukovodstvovat'sia soobrazheniiami tvorcheskimi, ideinymi, a ne 
> odnoi 
> tol'ko zabotei o povyshenii sborov. Ved' my delaem odno i to zhe 
> delo. 
> Kak zhe mozhno davat' narodu vmesto luchshikh -- khudshie obraztsy 
> iskusstva, stalo byt', rasprostraniat' ikh na gigantskuiu 
> auditoriiu. I 
> kto my, v kontse kontsov, --komersanty ili politiki?* *Ia 
> ubezhden, shto 
> televidenie nikogda ne zaimet mesta teatra..."
> ** 
> The question concerns the use of the term "politiki" here.  In 
> 1956, is 
> it probable that the term only refers to "Western" or "Western-
> style" 
> politicians?  Should a responsible translation render the word not 
> just 
> as "politicians" but as "Western-style [or some other adjective] 
> politicians"?   For scholarly purposes, the translation
> needs to convey the nuance of what Il'inskii means here.
> 
> All expert opinions will be appreciated!
> Thanks,
> RJS
> 
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From mlermontov at RCN.COM  Tue Jan  9 18:43:37 2007
From: mlermontov at RCN.COM (mikhail lipyanskiy)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 13:43:37 -0500
Subject: AAASS 2007 Panels
Message-ID: <TUE.9.JAN.2007.134337.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

thanks so much! since its Jan 9th its a bit too late for me this time - but 
i will keep it in mind for next time and sutely attempt to put something 
together. thanks again

ML
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Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] AAASS 2007 Panels


> Dear Mikhail,
>
> There is no "live" list of panels proposed for the AAASS convention 
> available to the public. The preliminary program of the ACCEPTED panels 
> will be released some time in May and posted to the AAASS web site, the 
> preliminary program will be printed in the August 2007 issue of NewsNet, 
> and the final program will be distributed at the convention.
>
> If you have a proposal for a panel about medieval Russian literature in 
> mind, please do submit it by Friday, January 12.
>
> sincerely,
> Jolanta Davis
>
> At 04:04 PM 1/8/2007, mikhail lipyanskiy wrote:
>>I am sorry all if this is incorrect to ask, but since I am completly new 
>>to this...
>>
>>Is there a full list of panels avaliable somewhere? I havent seen any 
>>panel proposals for medieval Russian lit, are there just none this year?
>>
>>thanks!
>>
>>ML
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> American Association for the Advancement of Slavic Studies (AAASS)
> 8 Story Street
> Cambridge, MA 02138
> tel.: 617-495-0679
> fax: 617-495-0680
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From vbelyanin at GMAIL.COM  Tue Jan  9 19:41:36 2007
From: vbelyanin at GMAIL.COM (Valery Belyanin)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 14:41:36 -0500
Subject: translation query: 1950s Soviet usage
In-Reply-To: <fe0a7104221.104221fe0a7@imap.georgetown.edu>
Message-ID: <TUE.9.JAN.2007.144136.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Rebecca
I also think that in this context the  word "politik" has a positive
meaning.
We are not selling the art we are making a good policy of putting forward
good works of art = that is how I understood that paragraph.


Yours truly, Валерий Белянин / Valery Belyanin,
Email: russianforyou at gmail.com



On 1/9/07, Svetlana Grenier <greniers at georgetown.edu> wrote:
>
> Dear Rebecca,
>
> To me it does not at all sound like "Western-style politicians" in this
> context.  It sounds like a positive term:  he is opposing it as a positive
> to the negative "kommersanty," who are ruled by Best,
> Svetlana Grenier
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rebecca Jane Stanton <rjs19 at COLUMBIA.EDU>
> Date: Tuesday, January 9, 2007 12:56 pm
> Subject: [SEELANGS] translation query: 1950s Soviet usage
>
> > auditoriiu. I
> > kto my, v kontse kontsov, --komersanty ili politiki?* *Ia
> > ubezhden, shto
> > televidenie nikogda ne zaimet mesta teatra..."
>


From es77 at NYU.EDU  Tue Jan  9 22:59:59 2007
From: es77 at NYU.EDU (Evgeny Steiner)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 17:59:59 -0500
Subject: Khlebnikov's Prologue
Message-ID: <TUE.9.JAN.2007.175959.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear SEELANGers,

As an unexpected and pleasant distraction from deciphering surimono I
found myself translating Khlebnikov's Prologue to The Victory over the
Sun. Curious to hear about the validity of the principles of this
translation and interested to gather opinions about my particular
coinage, I'll be happy to offer it to the judgement of all hominibus
bonae voluntatis. I do not mind to post it on the list, but since at
least a half of the 2 pp. space is occupied by footnotes (not properly
convertible), it has to be sent as an attachment to individual e-mail
addresses.

Bud' slukhom (ushast) sozertsal'! I smotryaka.

Thank you,

Evgeny Steiner
Leverhulme Visiting Professor,
The University of Manchester

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From s-hill4 at UIUC.EDU  Wed Jan 10 08:05:00 2007
From: s-hill4 at UIUC.EDU (Prof Steven P Hill)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 02:05:00 -0600
Subject: nuance of "politik" in 50s (cont.)
Message-ID: <WED.10.JAN.2007.020500.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear colleagues & Prof Roth-Ey:

I agree 100% with  Profs. Grenier & Belianin.  In Il'inskii's 1950s context, 
he is giving a very positive spin to the term "politik," clearly with the 
meaning of "statesman-like" or "astute politically."

Best wishes to all,
Steven P Hill,
University of Illinois.
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To: Steven Hill <S-HILL4 at UIUC.EDU> 

Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 12:56:53 -0500 
From: Rebecca Jane Stanton <rjs19 at COLUMBIA.EDU> 
Subject: translation query: 1950s Soviet usage 

Dear SEELANGers, 
 [ ....  Il'inskii ] browbeats his fellow artists for snubbing television.  
He writes: "Takaia pozitsiia predstavlaetsia mne antigosudarstvennoi. 
Davaite rukovodstvovat'sia soobrazheniiami tvorcheskimi, ideinymi, 
a ne odnoi tol'ko zabotei [zabotoi. -- SPH] o povyshenii sborov.
 [ .... ]  I kto my, v kontse kontsov, --komersanty ili politiki? [ ....] 

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From thomas.keenan at YALE.EDU  Wed Jan 10 13:46:04 2007
From: thomas.keenan at YALE.EDU (=?windows-1252?Q?Thomas_Keenan?=)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:46:04 -0500
Subject: Novaia zhizn'
Message-ID: <WED.10.JAN.2007.084604.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Hello,

I'm wondering whether anyone out there might have any information about 
the genesis and evolution of the early XXc. newspaper Novaia zhizn'. It 
appears that it first appeared in 1905 published and edited by Nikolai 
Minsy. I've seen other references to newspapers of the same title from 
1917 and the early 1920s. Is this the same publication or did it have 
multiple avatars? Any assistance greatly appreciated.

Thomas Keenan.

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From colkitto at ROGERS.COM  Wed Jan 10 14:38:33 2007
From: colkitto at ROGERS.COM (colkitto)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 09:38:33 -0500
Subject: Kundera article in New Yorker
Message-ID: <WED.10.JAN.2007.093833.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

One comment that could be made on the Milan Kundera article is that the term
"Slavic" should primarily be thought of as purely linguistic, like "Celtic",
"Germanic", or even "Indo-European", referring to a group of fairly
disparate cultures that happen to speak historically related languages.

To take an extreme example of a similar phenomenon, the fact that American 
English and Farsi are
both Indo-European has not been cited as a factor suggesting that the US
might aspire to closer relations with Iran in the Middle East.

This approach should go some way to answering Kundera's concerns about being 
grouped with classical Russian writer, as a "Slavic
author."

Imagine grouping him with, e.g., Hafiz, or, at the opposite end, Dafydd ap 
Gwilym, as an "Indo-European author."

Meanwhile, for Canadians, there is a specially interesting passage:

"Given that the French are unused to distinguishing between nation and
state, I often hear Kafka described as a Czech writer.  Of course that is
nonsense."

Recently there has been some discussion in Canada as to the exact meaning of
the term "nation", and whether there can be nations within nations, etc.,
mainly centred (of course) on the position of Quebec.  Many  pundits have
tied themselves in knots over whether Quebec can be a nation within the
Canadian nation (or state) or not.  They should read Kundera's article.

Meanwhile Witold Manczak has an article in Bulletin de la Soiciete
Polonaise de la Linguistique (LVIII, 2002) titled Naród a jezyk, panstwo i 
religia,
which deals with some of the same issues, citing changing views of the 
status of Copernicus as an example.

Robert Orr

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From pstock at BRANDEIS.EDU  Wed Jan 10 15:45:53 2007
From: pstock at BRANDEIS.EDU (David Powelstock)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 10:45:53 -0500
Subject: Kundera article in New Yorker
In-Reply-To: <00ac01c734c5$016a8bf0$1a18694a@yourg9zekrp5zf>
Message-ID: <WED.10.JAN.2007.104553.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Thanks to Robert Orr for his thoughtful comments about Kundera's article.
However, I would point out that Kundera is perfectly aware that there is a
linguistic basis for the Slavic grouping. His point, however, is that this
fact is of little or no importance for the study of history and culture, and
specifically of the modern novel. He writes:

"While there is a *linguistic* unity among the Slavic nations, there is no
Slavic *culture*, no Slavic *world*, and that the history of the Czechs,
like that of the Poles, the Slovaks, the Croats, or the Slovenes (and, of
course, the Hungarians, who are not at all Slavic), is entirely Western:
Gothic, Renaissance, Baroque; close contact with the Germanic world; the
struggle of Catholicism against the Reformation. Never anything to do with
Russia, which was far off, another world. Only the Poles lived in direct
relation with Russia* relation much like a death struggle."

Pace Robert, I don't see how the example of grouping a Czech writer with
writers in any and all Indo-European-based languages counters Kundera's
concern. On the contrary, it reinforces Kundera's point that a typology
based on historical linguistics does not serve the study of the history of
culture, the history of literature, or for that matter history per se
(whatever that is). Linguistic family relations become nearly irrelevant
over time, unless they are reinforced by extra-linguistic bonds of
community.

I hope others will weigh in, if interested.

Regards to all,
David

David Powelstock 
Asst. Prof. of Russian & East European Literatures 
Chair, Program in Russian & East European Studies 
Brandeis University 
GRALL, MS 024 
Waltham, MA  02454-9110 
781.736.3347 (Office) 


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu] On Behalf Of colkitto
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 9:39 AM
To: SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Kundera article in New Yorker

One comment that could be made on the Milan Kundera article is that the term
"Slavic" should primarily be thought of as purely linguistic, like "Celtic",
"Germanic", or even "Indo-European", referring to a group of fairly
disparate cultures that happen to speak historically related languages.

To take an extreme example of a similar phenomenon, the fact that American
English and Farsi are both Indo-European has not been cited as a factor
suggesting that the US might aspire to closer relations with Iran in the
Middle East.

This approach should go some way to answering Kundera's concerns about being
grouped with classical Russian writer, as a "Slavic author."

Imagine grouping him with, e.g., Hafiz, or, at the opposite end, Dafydd ap
Gwilym, as an "Indo-European author."

Meanwhile, for Canadians, there is a specially interesting passage:

"Given that the French are unused to distinguishing between nation and
state, I often hear Kafka described as a Czech writer.  Of course that is
nonsense."

Recently there has been some discussion in Canada as to the exact meaning of
the term "nation", and whether there can be nations within nations, etc.,
mainly centred (of course) on the position of Quebec.  Many  pundits have
tied themselves in knots over whether Quebec can be a nation within the
Canadian nation (or state) or not.  They should read Kundera's article.

Meanwhile Witold Manczak has an article in Bulletin de la Soiciete Polonaise
de la Linguistique (LVIII, 2002) titled Naród a jezyk, panstwo i religia,
which deals with some of the same issues, citing changing views of the
status of Copernicus as an example.

Robert Orr

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From russell-valentino at UIOWA.EDU  Wed Jan 10 15:54:20 2007
From: russell-valentino at UIOWA.EDU (Valentino, Russell)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 09:54:20 -0600
Subject: Kundera article in New Yorker
In-Reply-To: A<00ac01c734c5$016a8bf0$1a18694a@yourg9zekrp5zf>
Message-ID: <WED.10.JAN.2007.095420.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Great topic.

I found Kundera's objection to being grouped with the Russians by the "eminent Slavist" who meant him no harm rather inconsistent, if not contradictory. That is world literature too. It's just not the one he wants to be primarily associated with, which is obviously centered farther west. I read the objection more as authorial image control, or an attempt at it, under a pretext of something else.

The other, and more seriously troubling aspect of the piece is the utter absence of anything about translation, which is the only way that works get into the "larger context" he wants us all to think about. Leaving translation out of the discussion merely perpetuates the "English-was-good-enough-for-Jesus" assumptions characteristic of most readings and discussions of translated works. Why Kundera of all people should fail to even mention it is puzzling at the very least.

Overall, the piece could have been much more challenging than it was.

(The review of Tom Stoppard's trilogy of plays about Russian nineteenth-century revolutionary thinkers in the same issue was more interesting.)

Russell Valentino

-----Original Message-----
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To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Kundera article in New Yorker

One comment that could be made on the Milan Kundera article is that the term
"Slavic" should primarily be thought of as purely linguistic, like "Celtic",
"Germanic", or even "Indo-European", referring to a group of fairly
disparate cultures that happen to speak historically related languages.

To take an extreme example of a similar phenomenon, the fact that American 
English and Farsi are
both Indo-European has not been cited as a factor suggesting that the US
might aspire to closer relations with Iran in the Middle East.

This approach should go some way to answering Kundera's concerns about being 
grouped with classical Russian writer, as a "Slavic
author."

Imagine grouping him with, e.g., Hafiz, or, at the opposite end, Dafydd ap 
Gwilym, as an "Indo-European author."

Meanwhile, for Canadians, there is a specially interesting passage:

"Given that the French are unused to distinguishing between nation and
state, I often hear Kafka described as a Czech writer.  Of course that is
nonsense."

Recently there has been some discussion in Canada as to the exact meaning of
the term "nation", and whether there can be nations within nations, etc.,
mainly centred (of course) on the position of Quebec.  Many  pundits have
tied themselves in knots over whether Quebec can be a nation within the
Canadian nation (or state) or not.  They should read Kundera's article.

Meanwhile Witold Manczak has an article in Bulletin de la Soiciete
Polonaise de la Linguistique (LVIII, 2002) titled Naród a jezyk, panstwo i 
religia,
which deals with some of the same issues, citing changing views of the 
status of Copernicus as an example.

Robert Orr

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From Elena.Levintova at MONTEREY.ARMY.MIL  Wed Jan 10 16:56:07 2007
From: Elena.Levintova at MONTEREY.ARMY.MIL (Allison Elena N.)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:56:07 -0800
Subject: Khlebnikov's Prologue
Message-ID: <WED.10.JAN.2007.085607.0800.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Evgeny: I would like to see your translation. Please include the original,
too. See my email address below -- please note two "A".
P.S. You should have included your own email address in the message.
Thanks,
Elena


Elena Allison 
Elena at AAllison.com
 

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To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: [SEELANGS] Khlebnikov's Prologue

Dear SEELANGers,

As an unexpected and pleasant distraction from deciphering surimono I found
myself translating Khlebnikov's Prologue to The Victory over the Sun.
Curious to hear about the validity of the principles of this translation and
interested to gather opinions about my particular coinage, I'll be happy to
offer it to the judgement of all hominibus bonae voluntatis. I do not mind
to post it on the list, but since at least a half of the 2 pp. space is
occupied by footnotes (not properly convertible), it has to be sent as an
attachment to individual e-mail addresses.

Bud' slukhom (ushast) sozertsal'! I smotryaka.

Thank you,

Evgeny Steiner
Leverhulme Visiting Professor,
The University of Manchester

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From s-gorin at NORTHWESTERN.EDU  Wed Jan 10 17:49:31 2007
From: s-gorin at NORTHWESTERN.EDU (Shlomit Gorin)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 17:49:31 +0000
Subject: An interesting article
Message-ID: <WED.10.JAN.2007.174931.0000.>

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From herrington.matthew at GMAIL.COM  Wed Jan 10 18:03:59 2007
From: herrington.matthew at GMAIL.COM (Matthew Herrington)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:03:59 -0500
Subject: An interesting article
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To call this article "interesting" is to give it too much credit.
"Shrill" and "confused" better characterize it.

-Matthew Herrington


On 1/10/07, Shlomit Gorin <s-gorin at northwestern.edu> wrote:
> Though this article doesn't pertain specifically to Slavic studies, it is of relevance to anyone
> studying literature.
>
> http://www.theamericanscholar.org/gettingitallwrong-boyd.html
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From marc at ADLERPACIFIC.COM  Wed Jan 10 20:32:12 2007
From: marc at ADLERPACIFIC.COM (Marc Adler)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 14:32:12 -0600
Subject: Kundera article in New Yorker
In-Reply-To: <F95A1564051AD248BF86D88C5FDD5980291037@IOWAEVS02.iowa.uiowa.edu>
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Valentino, Russell(e)k dio:

> the one he wants to be primarily associated with

Leaving aside the question of where Kundera should actually be placed in 
a history of the European novel, I think his point in the article was 
that Slavs are separated by a historical divide (originally religious), 
and to group him with Dostoevsky just because they speak related 
languages is missing that point. We can speculate who Kundera wants to 
be associated with, of course, but he was making a historical point in 
the article.

-- 
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marc at adlerpacific.com

Gauzak ez dira multzutu eta berretu
behar, mengoarik eta premiarik gabe.

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From Kristi.Groberg at NDSU.EDU  Wed Jan 10 20:51:04 2007
From: Kristi.Groberg at NDSU.EDU (Kristi Groberg)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 14:51:04 -0600
Subject: Kundera article in New Yorker
In-Reply-To: <F95A1564051AD248BF86D88C5FDD5980291037@IOWAEVS02.iowa.uiow a.edu>
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At 09:54 10.01.2007, you wrote:
>(The review of Tom Stoppard's trilogy of plays about Russian 
>nineteenth-century revolutionary thinkers in the same issue was more 
>interesting.)

I agree, although I did appreciate the context into which Kundera 
placed Gombrowicz.

Kris Groberg 

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From renee at ALINGA.COM  Wed Jan 10 21:10:36 2007
From: renee at ALINGA.COM (Renee Stillings)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:10:36 -0500
Subject: 2007 SRAS Calendar - "The Russia I Saw"
Message-ID: <WED.10.JAN.2007.161036.0500.>

Dear SEELANGERs,

 

We have a limited number of our 2007 SRAS Calendars left. This calendar,
complete with both US and Russian holidays, is the result of a photo contest
(see http://www.sras.org/news2.phtml?m=814) we ran for our students. We
think the result is spectacular and we'd like to share some with the
SEELANGS readership. 

 

If you'd like a copy (free - while supplies last!) just send me a note
(rstillings at sras.org) with your mailing address!

 

Regards,

 

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www.sras.org <http://www.sras.org/> 

 

 

 

 


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From vassilev at USC.EDU  Wed Jan 10 23:01:50 2007
From: vassilev at USC.EDU (Elena Vassileva)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 15:01:50 -0800
Subject: AAASS 2007 Censorship/Taboos in Russian Visual Culture
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Dear SEELANGS members,

 I am putting together a panel on Censorship/Taboos in Russian Visual Culture, which will discuss topics, spheres or objects whose visual although not necessarily verbal representation is resisted in Russian culture. These issues may be analyzed as medium specific - things that are easily discussed verbally but can never be shown - or as a particular instance of visual censorship pertaining to any period of Russian culture. 
We need one more panelist and a discussant. I know this is late notice but it promises to be a very exciting exchange.

Best,
Elena Vassilieva
contact off the list 
vassilev at usc.edu 

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From pstock at BRANDEIS.EDU  Thu Jan 11 01:44:31 2007
From: pstock at BRANDEIS.EDU (David Powelstock)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 20:44:31 -0500
Subject: Kundera article in New Yorker
In-Reply-To: <F95A1564051AD248BF86D88C5FDD5980291037@IOWAEVS02.iowa.uiowa.edu>
Message-ID: <WED.10.JAN.2007.204431.0500.>

I agree with Russell about the absence of translation--well, in fact,
Kundera *recommends* reading works in translation! There is something to be
said for his ideal of a world literature--after all, there are such
works--primarily novels--that lose relatively little in translation, and
which partake of this alinguistic (cum grano salis, please!) trans-cultural
aesthetic. War and Peace comes to mind. It's the assertion of this aesthetic
as exclusive or even primary that I find not only far-fetched but ultimately
sterile and unappealing. Perhaps if one wishes to write philosophy or found
a religion this might be the way to go, but I like my bones with a little
flesh, thank you. Along these lines, let me add that I find Kundera's
latter-day novels (written in French) as colorless and odorless as natural
gas. 

I also agree with Russell that Kundera is involved in "image control," but
perhaps to a lesser degree than Russell suggests. I think that Kundera
really is pretty deeply invested in the ideas he puts forth--as witnessed by
his migration away from the Czech language and culture and toward greater
abstraction. In fact, I would argue that the tendency was always there in
his works, even the early ones. Whether this trajectory is the one that best
serves his talent is another question. Frankly, he lost my interest several
novels ago. But I do think that he poses a rather serious challenge to the
organization and practices of literary studies in the Academy, and in the
Slavic field in particular. As a Russianist and some-time Bohemist, I find
these cultures to have almost nothing in common. And consider this: has any
Czech author ever gained currency on the West because he was pushed forward
specifically by academic Slavists? One needs translators, of course, but
these needn't be--and often aren't--stationed in the Academy. My point is
simply that there is some truth to Kundera's assertion that Czech writers
profit little by their being headquartered in "Slavic" departments. 

David

David Powelstock
Asst. Prof. of Russian & East European Literatures
Chair, Program in Russian & East European Studies
Brandeis University
GRALL, MS 024
Waltham, MA  02454-9110
781.736.3347 (Office) 

-----Original Message-----
From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
[mailto:SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu] On Behalf Of Valentino, Russell
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 10:54 AM
To: SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Kundera article in New Yorker

Great topic.

I found Kundera's objection to being grouped with the Russians by the
"eminent Slavist" who meant him no harm rather inconsistent, if not
contradictory. That is world literature too. It's just not the one he wants
to be primarily associated with, which is obviously centered farther west. I
read the objection more as authorial image control, or an attempt at it,
under a pretext of something else.

The other, and more seriously troubling aspect of the piece is the utter
absence of anything about translation, which is the only way that works get
into the "larger context" he wants us all to think about. Leaving
translation out of the discussion merely perpetuates the
"English-was-good-enough-for-Jesus" assumptions characteristic of most
readings and discussions of translated works. Why Kundera of all people
should fail to even mention it is puzzling at the very least.

Overall, the piece could have been much more challenging than it was.

(The review of Tom Stoppard's trilogy of plays about Russian
nineteenth-century revolutionary thinkers in the same issue was more
interesting.)

Russell Valentino

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of colkitto
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 8:39 AM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Kundera article in New Yorker

One comment that could be made on the Milan Kundera article is that the term
"Slavic" should primarily be thought of as purely linguistic, like "Celtic",
"Germanic", or even "Indo-European", referring to a group of fairly
disparate cultures that happen to speak historically related languages.

To take an extreme example of a similar phenomenon, the fact that American 
English and Farsi are
both Indo-European has not been cited as a factor suggesting that the US
might aspire to closer relations with Iran in the Middle East.

This approach should go some way to answering Kundera's concerns about being

grouped with classical Russian writer, as a "Slavic
author."

Imagine grouping him with, e.g., Hafiz, or, at the opposite end, Dafydd ap 
Gwilym, as an "Indo-European author."

Meanwhile, for Canadians, there is a specially interesting passage:

"Given that the French are unused to distinguishing between nation and
state, I often hear Kafka described as a Czech writer.  Of course that is
nonsense."

Recently there has been some discussion in Canada as to the exact meaning of
the term "nation", and whether there can be nations within nations, etc.,
mainly centred (of course) on the position of Quebec.  Many  pundits have
tied themselves in knots over whether Quebec can be a nation within the
Canadian nation (or state) or not.  They should read Kundera's article.

Meanwhile Witold Manczak has an article in Bulletin de la Soiciete
Polonaise de la Linguistique (LVIII, 2002) titled Naród a jezyk, panstwo i 
religia,
which deals with some of the same issues, citing changing views of the 
status of Copernicus as an example.

Robert Orr

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From shatsev at HOTMAIL.COM  Thu Jan 11 04:38:49 2007
From: shatsev at HOTMAIL.COM (Vladimir Shatsev)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 23:38:49 -0500
Subject: Sleeping Arrangements
In-Reply-To: <000001c73411$a6292070$6500a8c0@IBMDorwin>
Message-ID: <WED.10.JAN.2007.233849.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Ms. Orwin,
1.	I think that the various works of  fiction seem to differ on this point 
because all the rules in Russia are subject to a lot of exceptions. Your 
students can find some information about matrimonial relations and love 
affairs in various editions of Yury Lotman�s  BIT RUSSKOGO 
DVORIANSTVA.BESEDI O RUSSKOI KULTURE as well as in his Commentaries to 
Evgeniy Onegin.
2.	Probably you remember me .I had written you a couple of letters last 
Autumn with invitation to my lecture about War and Peace at Chapters and 
also about samizdat at the Institute of Comparative Studies where I 
substituted for Associate Professor Ann Komaromi .
Now I would like to invite you to  my lectures at Hart House, U  of T, where 
I regularly teach members of Russian Students� Association, poetry group, 
every Sunday at 7 p.m. The next lecture will take place on Sunday, January 
14th at Hart House. It will be about Mozart and Saliery: Fazil Iskander 
version of events. If you, your students or colleagues will be interested in 
this initiative of RSA and my lectures, please let me know. I will send you 
the schedule of lectures .

Regards,

Vladimir Shatsev

Language and Drama Teacher

Royal Toronto Oblomov Society

Russian House Community Centre www.russianhouse.ca

Phone.: 416-236-5563
Cell : 416-333-1840

Email: vladimir.shatsev at russianhouse.ca




>From: Donna Orwin <donna.orwin at UTORONTO.CA>
>Reply-To: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list              
><SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
>To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
>Subject: [SEELANGS] Sleeping Arrangements
>Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 12:14:40 -0500
>
>Dear Colleagues,
>
>One of my students has asked me about the sleeping arrangements for
>married couples among high society Russians in the nineteenth century.
>Do they share the same bedroom and bed, or do they tend to have their
>own rooms, with the husband visiting the wife for conjugal relations?
>Do the arrangements change as the century goes on, and do different
>classes have different rules?  Different works of fiction seem to differ
>on this point.  Where in the house or apartment do lovers meet and sin
>when the husband is not home?  Has anyone written about this subject?
>
>Sincerely, and thanks in advance for the information,
>
>Donna Orwin
>
>----------------------------
>Prof. Donna Tussing Orwin
>President, Tolstoy Society
>Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures
>University of Toronto
>Alumni Hall 415
>121 St. Joseph St.
>Toronto. ON M5S 1J4
>Tel. 416-926-1300. ext. 3316
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From jessikaaguilar at HOTMAIL.COM  Thu Jan 11 05:55:39 2007
From: jessikaaguilar at HOTMAIL.COM (Jessika Aguilar)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 22:55:39 -0700
Subject: AAASS 2007  post-Soviet panel
Message-ID: <WED.10.JAN.2007.225539.0700.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Seelangers,
 
This is really last minute but previously I had posted a call for participants in a panel on post-Soviet culture with the topic: How de-legitimated Soviet master narratives continue to inform post-Soviet cultural space. 
 
 We now have an almost complete panel: I am presenting on Pelevin's Chapaev i Pustota, Meghan Vicks (CU Boulder) is presenting on "The Return" and Andrew Chapman (University of Pittsburgh) is presenting on the concept of Vospitanie/Perevospitanie in post-Soviet film.  Our discussant is Mark Lipovetsky (CU Boulder). 
 
 We still need a chair, however, so if anyone would be interested in participating in our panel in that capacity, please contact me at ja2265 at columbia.edu ASAP (deadline is tomorrow!) with a current CV.  
 
Thanks so much!
 
Jessika Aguilar
 
Columbia University
Dept. of Slavic Languages and Literatures
New York, NY
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From J.Dunn at SLAVONIC.ARTS.GLA.AC.UK  Thu Jan 11 09:23:16 2007
From: J.Dunn at SLAVONIC.ARTS.GLA.AC.UK (John Dunn)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 10:23:16 +0100
Subject: Kundera article in New Yorker
Message-ID: <THU.11.JAN.2007.102316.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Unfortunately I haven't got access to the original article, which the New Yorker has not made available on-line, but I am not going to let a little detail like that stop me. . . 

In fact, the artificiality of 'Slavonic culture' is a notion that my Czech colleagues in Glasgow have been whispering into my ears for some time, which makes me think that the idea already has some currency in Czech academic circles.  Can someone enlighten us further on this point?

And in this spirit at the end of an experimental course on Globalisation, which we put on last year as part of our Slavonic Civilisation degree programme, I asked our students whether there was anything that could be identified as being specifically and uniquely 'Slavonic'.  Though several partial answers were suggested, it was difficult to find a full answer that went beyond language.

On the other hand, I think, pace Robert Orr, that there is a common Celtic cultural identity that goes beyond  language and which is reflected in such events as the Celtic Connections music festival and various Celtic film festivals. And I believe that the Turks tried to foster a common cultural identity among the Turkic peoples of Central Asia after 1991, though I am not sure what success they have had. Perhaps these are exceptions to the general rule.

And, curiously, the one place where a common Indo-European identity does appear to work is the Caucasus: the Russians are and traditionally have been closer to the Armenians and the Ossetes than to other nations (including the Georgians, to whom they have most in common in religious terms).  

John Dunn.    


John Dunn
Honorary Research Fellow, SMLC (Slavonic Studies)
University of Glasgow, Scotland

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From donna.orwin at UTORONTO.CA  Thu Jan 11 13:40:56 2007
From: donna.orwin at UTORONTO.CA (Donna Orwin)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 08:40:56 -0500
Subject: Sleeping Arrangements
In-Reply-To: <BAY125-F12F627FDFBCB3AA18C80C2A1B10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <THU.11.JAN.2007.084056.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Mr. Shatsev,

Thank you for your information.  Lotman is a good idea, and I will take
a look at it.  Of course I remember you, and thank you for your
invitation.  Where in Hart House will you be lecturing?  

All the best,  Donna Orwin 
----------------------------
Prof. Donna Tussing Orwin
President, Tolstoy Society
Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures
University of Toronto
Alumni Hall 415
121 St. Joseph St. 
Toronto. ON M5S 1J4
Tel. 416-926-1300. ext. 3316


-----Original Message-----
From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
[mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of Vladimir Shatsev
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 11:39 PM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Sleeping Arrangements

Dear Ms. Orwin,
1.	I think that the various works of  fiction seem to differ on
this point 
because all the rules in Russia are subject to a lot of exceptions. Your

students can find some information about matrimonial relations and love 
affairs in various editions of Yury Lotman's  BIT RUSSKOGO 
DVORIANSTVA.BESEDI O RUSSKOI KULTURE as well as in his Commentaries to 
Evgeniy Onegin.
2.	Probably you remember me .I had written you a couple of letters
last 
Autumn with invitation to my lecture about War and Peace at Chapters and

also about samizdat at the Institute of Comparative Studies where I 
substituted for Associate Professor Ann Komaromi .
Now I would like to invite you to  my lectures at Hart House, U  of T,
where 
I regularly teach members of Russian Students' Association, poetry
group, 
every Sunday at 7 p.m. The next lecture will take place on Sunday,
January 
14th at Hart House. It will be about Mozart and Saliery: Fazil Iskander 
version of events. If you, your students or colleagues will be
interested in 
this initiative of RSA and my lectures, please let me know. I will send
you 
the schedule of lectures .

Regards,

Vladimir Shatsev

Language and Drama Teacher

Royal Toronto Oblomov Society

Russian House Community Centre www.russianhouse.ca

Phone.: 416-236-5563
Cell : 416-333-1840

Email: vladimir.shatsev at russianhouse.ca




>From: Donna Orwin <donna.orwin at UTORONTO.CA>
>Reply-To: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list

><SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
>To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
>Subject: [SEELANGS] Sleeping Arrangements
>Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 12:14:40 -0500
>
>Dear Colleagues,
>
>One of my students has asked me about the sleeping arrangements for
>married couples among high society Russians in the nineteenth century.
>Do they share the same bedroom and bed, or do they tend to have their
>own rooms, with the husband visiting the wife for conjugal relations?
>Do the arrangements change as the century goes on, and do different
>classes have different rules?  Different works of fiction seem to
differ
>on this point.  Where in the house or apartment do lovers meet and sin
>when the husband is not home?  Has anyone written about this subject?
>
>Sincerely, and thanks in advance for the information,
>
>Donna Orwin
>
>----------------------------
>Prof. Donna Tussing Orwin
>President, Tolstoy Society
>Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures
>University of Toronto
>Alumni Hall 415
>121 St. Joseph St.
>Toronto. ON M5S 1J4
>Tel. 416-926-1300. ext. 3316
>
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From jessikaaguilar at HOTMAIL.COM  Thu Jan 11 15:08:38 2007
From: jessikaaguilar at HOTMAIL.COM (Jessika Aguilar)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 08:08:38 -0700
Subject: AAASS 2007 chair needed for post-Soviet panel
Message-ID: <THU.11.JAN.2007.080838.0700.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Seelangers, This is really last minute but previously I had posted a call for participants in a panel on post-Soviet culture with the topic: How de-legitimated Soviet master narratives continue to inform post-Soviet cultural space.   We now have an almost complete panel: I am presenting on Pelevin's Chapaev i Pustota, Meghan Vicks (CU Boulder) is presenting on "The Return" and Andrew Chapman (University of Pittsburgh) is presenting on the concept of Vospitanie/Perevospitanie in post-Soviet film.  Our discussant is Mark Lipovetsky (CU Boulder).   We still need a chair, however, so if anyone would be interested in participating in our panel in that capacity, please contact me at ja2265 at columbia.edu ASAP (deadline is tomorrow!) with a current CV.   Thanks so much! **Sorry if this message repeats, I don't think it worked the first time I sent it.
 
Jessika Aguilar Columbia UniversityDept. of Slavic Languages and LiteraturesNew York, NY
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From jessikaaguilar at HOTMAIL.COM  Thu Jan 11 15:14:14 2007
From: jessikaaguilar at HOTMAIL.COM (Jessika Aguilar)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 08:14:14 -0700
Subject: AAASS 2007 Chair needed for post-Soviet panel
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Dear Seelangers, This is really last minute but previously I had posted a call for participants in a panel on post-Soviet culture with the topic: How de-legitimated Soviet master narratives continue to inform post-Soviet cultural space.   We now have an almost complete panel: I am presenting on Pelevin's Chapaev i Pustota, Meghan Vicks (CU Boulder) is presenting on "The Return" and Andrew Chapman (University of Pittsburgh) is presenting on the concept of Vospitanie/Perevospitanie in post-Soviet film.  Our discussant is Mark Lipovetsky (CU Boulder).   We still need a chair, however, so if anyone would be interested in participating in our panel in that capacity, please contact me at ja2265 at columbia.edu ASAP (deadline is tomorrow!) with a current CV.   Thanks so much!
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 Jessika Aguilar Columbia UniversityDept. of Slavic Languages and LiteraturesNew York, NY



> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 23:38:49 -0500> From: shatsev at HOTMAIL.COM> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Sleeping Arrangements> To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU> > Dear Ms. Orwin,> 1. I think that the various works of fiction seem to differ on this point > because all the rules in Russia are subject to a lot of exceptions. Your > students can find some information about matrimonial relations and love > affairs in various editions of Yury Lotman’s BIT RUSSKOGO > DVORIANSTVA.BESEDI O RUSSKOI KULTURE as well as in his Commentaries to > Evgeniy Onegin.> 2. Probably you remember me .I had written you a couple of letters last > Autumn with invitation to my lecture about War and Peace at Chapters and > also about samizdat at the Institute of Comparative Studies where I > substituted for Associate Professor Ann Komaromi .> Now I would like to invite you to my lectures at Hart House, U of T, where > I regularly teach members of Russian Students’ Association, poetry group, > every Sunday at 7 p.m. The next lecture will take place on Sunday, January > 14th at Hart House. It will be about Mozart and Saliery: Fazil Iskander > version of events. If you, your students or colleagues will be interested in > this initiative of RSA and my lectures, please let me know. I will send you > the schedule of lectures .> > Regards,> > Vladimir Shatsev> > Language and Drama Teacher> > Royal Toronto Oblomov Society> > Russian House Community Centre www.russianhouse.ca> > Phone.: 416-236-5563> Cell : 416-333-1840> > Email: vladimir.shatsev at russianhouse.ca> > > > > >From: Donna Orwin <donna.orwin at UTORONTO.CA>> >Reply-To: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list > ><SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>> >To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU> >Subject: [SEELANGS] Sleeping Arrangements> >Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 12:14:40 -0500> >> >Dear Colleagues,> >> >One of my students has asked me about the sleeping arrangements for> >married couples among high society Russians in the nineteenth century.> >Do they share the same bedroom and bed, or do they tend to have their> >own rooms, with the husband visiting the wife for conjugal relations?> >Do the arrangements change as the century goes on, and do different> >classes have different rules? Different works of fiction seem to differ> >on this point. Where in the house or apartment do lovers meet and sin> >when the husband is not home? Has anyone written about this subject?> >> >Sincerely, and thanks in advance for the information,> >> >Donna Orwin> >> >----------------------------> >Prof. Donna Tussing Orwin> >President, Tolstoy Society> >Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures> >University of Toronto> >Alumni Hall 415> >121 St. Joseph St.> >Toronto. ON M5S 1J4> >Tel. 416-926-1300. ext. 3316> >> >> >-------------------------------------------------------------------------> > Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription> > options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at:> > http://seelangs.home.comcast.net/> >-------------------------------------------------------------------------> > _________________________________________________________________> Your opinion matters. Please tell us what you think and be entered into a > draw for a grand prize of $500 or one of 20 $50 cash prizes. > http://www.youthographyinsiders.com/R.aspx?a=116> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------> Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription> options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at:> http://seelangs.home.comcast.net/> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From dlcoop at UIUC.EDU  Thu Jan 11 16:45:13 2007
From: dlcoop at UIUC.EDU (David L. Cooper)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 10:45:13 -0600
Subject: AAASS panel on nation and literature
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Seelangers,

We are looking for an additional paper for a panel on literature and nation in 19th century Russia. Current panel papers address Gogol's national sublime and Andrei Turgenev and the national turn in Russian criticism. Please contact me offlist if you are interested in joining the panel (dlcoop at uiuc.edu). This is last minute, so don't wait! 

Thanks,
David
--------------------------
David L. Cooper
Assistant Professor
Slavic Languages and Literatures
Ph: 217-244-4666

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From ah69 at COLUMBIA.EDU  Thu Jan 11 19:06:17 2007
From: ah69 at COLUMBIA.EDU (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andy_Hicks?=)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 14:06:17 -0500
Subject: I.M. Sechenov in Stalinist Culture
Message-ID: <THU.11.JAN.2007.140617.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

In Semyon Babaevskii's Svet nad zemlei, ownership of a book by I.M. Sechenov
causes a character to rise in the esteem of the regional Party Secretary. 
Ivan Sechenov (1829-1905) was apparently a founder of neurophysiology and
seems to be regarded as a precursor to I.P. Pavlov and his work with
conditioned reflexes.  Other than that vague resonance, do the members of
this list know of any cultural significance that Sechenov might have in the
Stalinist era?


Many thanks,


Andy Hicks

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From Alexandra.Smith at ED.AC.UK  Thu Jan 11 15:16:35 2007
From: Alexandra.Smith at ED.AC.UK (Alexandra Smith)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:16:35 +0000
Subject: CALL FOR PAPERS:CRCEES Research Days, 11-12 May 2007/Glasgow
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CALL FOR PAPERS:

CRCEES Research Days, 11-12 May 2007

Kelvin Conference Centre

Call for Papers


The Centre for Russian, Central and East European Studies (CRCEES)  
will be holding the
first of its annual Research Days at the Kelvin Conference Centre,  
University of Glasgow,
on 11-12 May 2007.

The plan is to have a combination of research panels, plenary sessions  
and informal
workshops in order to explore the five research themes within CRCEES.  
These are:

Aspects of identity and culture and their social, political and  
economic implications;

Economic and social transformation;

Political transformation and international relations;

Literary, cinematic and cultural developments in the area;

The politics of language.


CRCEES has established an Organising Committee to arrange this event,  
chaired by Geoff
Swain (Glasgow) and comprising Moya Flynn and Jon Oldfield (Glasgow),  
Cynthia Marsh
(Nottingham) and Lara Ryazanova-Clarke (Edinburgh)

The Organising Committee is calling for proposals for individual  
papers or panels,
plenary sessions, and workshops. It is particularly keen to involve  
contributions from
post-graduate students; these may either take the form of papers  
integrated within panels
or discreet post-graduate events. Participants from outside the CRCEES  
network are
welcome, but their funding can not be guaranteed.

The members of the Organising Committee are happy to give advice, and  
all propels should
be with Geoff Swain (g.swain at lbss.gla.ac.uk) by the deadline of 31  
January 2007.



===========================================
Alexandra Smith (PhD, University of London)
Lecturer in Russian
School of European Languages and Cultures
The University of Edinburgh
David Hume Tower
George Square
Edinburgh EX8 9JX
UK

tel. +44-(0)131-511381
fax: +44- (0) 650-3604
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From vassilev at USC.EDU  Thu Jan 11 21:22:13 2007
From: vassilev at USC.EDU (Elena Vassileva)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 13:22:13 -0800
Subject: CALL FOR PAPERS:CRCEES Research Days, 11-12 May 2007/Glasgow
In-Reply-To: <20070111151635.yf2cu7gmsc48wwwo@www.staffmail.ed.ac.uk>
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----- Original Message -----
From: Alexandra Smith <Alexandra.Smith at ED.AC.UK>
Date: Thursday, January 11, 2007 11:59 am
Subject: [SEELANGS] CALL FOR PAPERS:CRCEES Research Days, 11-12 May 2007/Glasgow
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU

> CALL FOR PAPERS:
> 
> CRCEES Research Days, 11-12 May 2007
> 
> Kelvin Conference Centre
> 
> Call for Papers
> 
> 
> The Centre for Russian, Central and East European Studies (CRCEES)  
> will be holding the
> first of its annual Research Days at the Kelvin Conference Centre,  
> University of Glasgow,
> on 11-12 May 2007.
> 
> The plan is to have a combination of research panels, plenary 
> sessions  
> and informal
> workshops in order to explore the five research themes within 
> CRCEES.  
> These are:
> 
> Aspects of identity and culture and their social, political and  
> economic implications;
> 
> Economic and social transformation;
> 
> Political transformation and international relations;
> 
> Literary, cinematic and cultural developments in the area;
> 
> The politics of language.
> 
> 
> CRCEES has established an Organising Committee to arrange this 
> event,  
> chaired by Geoff
> Swain (Glasgow) and comprising Moya Flynn and Jon Oldfield 
> (Glasgow),  
> Cynthia Marsh
> (Nottingham) and Lara Ryazanova-Clarke (Edinburgh)
> 
> The Organising Committee is calling for proposals for individual  
> papers or panels,
> plenary sessions, and workshops. It is particularly keen to involve 
> 
> contributions from
> post-graduate students; these may either take the form of papers  
> integrated within panels
> or discreet post-graduate events. Participants from outside the 
> CRCEES  
> network are
> welcome, but their funding can not be guaranteed.
> 
> The members of the Organising Committee are happy to give advice, 
> and  
> all propels should
> be with Geoff Swain (g.swain at lbss.gla.ac.uk) by the deadline of 31  
> January 2007.
> 
> 
> 
> ===========================================
> Alexandra Smith (PhD, University of London)
> Lecturer in Russian
> School of European Languages and Cultures
> The University of Edinburgh
> David Hume Tower
> George Square
> Edinburgh EX8 9JX
> UK
> 
> tel. +44-(0)131-511381
> fax: +44- (0) 650-3604
> e-mail: Alexandra.Smith at ed.ac.uk
> 
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From votruba+ at PITT.EDU  Thu Jan 11 22:36:41 2007
From: votruba+ at PITT.EDU (Martin Votruba)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:36:41 -0500
Subject: Kundera article in New Yorker
In-Reply-To: <1168507396.4156703cJ.Dunn@slavonic.arts.gla.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <THU.11.JAN.2007.173641.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

> the artificiality of 'Slavonic culture'

Rather than whispering as your Czech colleagues, John, our U. of 
Pittsburgh takes that view loud and clear as it recognizes courses 
concerning Russia, Ukraine, China, Japan as meeting the "Non-Western 
Culture Course" undergraduate requirement, but courses on Slovak and 
Polish topics do not meet it just like German, French, Italian 
courses don't.


Martin

votruba "at" pitt "dot" edu

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From lily.alexander at UTORONTO.CA  Thu Jan 11 23:20:26 2007
From: lily.alexander at UTORONTO.CA (Lily Alexander)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 18:20:26 -0500
Subject: I.M. Sechenov in Culture, Stalin, Stanislavsky and Demidov
In-Reply-To: <LISTSERV%200701111406172650.0643@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
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As far as I know, Sechenov was a teacher of Nikolai Demidov, a young 
physician, who was a doctor of the Stanislavsky family, in particular, 
of the director's many children.

Demidov leaned a lot from Sechenov, and was his follower in many ways, 
as a scholar.

As Stanislavsky's kids were frequently sick, as kids usually are during 
cold Russian winters, the doctor visited often, and the young Demidov 
and Stanislavsky spent a lot of time together.  One was fascinated by 
the teaching of his guru, Sechenov, and another by the new winds in 
theatre and acting. Demidov was a great fan of MHAT and Stanislavsly's 
directing.

Out of the hundreds of hours of their passionate discussions, which 
involved what Demidov had learned from Sechenov, the system of 
Stanislavsky, or The Method, was born.

People who knew both closely, have written that Stanislavsky could never 
come up with the Method on his own. He was a genius on stage, but not 
too verbal or articulate, needless to mention, not too eloquent in 
writing or knowledgeable in science. He would have never come up with 
the elaborate system of acting without Demidov's instruction every step 
of the way. Demidov became an at home consultant to Stanislavsky in his 
development of the System, or his shadow co-author through the 
developemnt of those 4 or 6 volumes, the director published as his 
system. Their collaboration lasted for many years, and Demidov's and 
hence Sechenov's influence, was central to what is now known around the 
world as The Method Acting, with Stasberg, a student of Mikhail Chekhov, 
making it accessible to the American actors from De Niro to Jack Nicholson.

As is well known, Stanislavsky has never given any credit to Demidov, 
nor did he acknowledge Demidov's vital significance to the entire Method 
acting project. I am not judging: he was a genius in his own right, and 
perhaps at some point he sincerely persuaded himself that the System was 
his baby only.

The System became a celebrity, and although some of the Master's 
favorite but rebellious students, such as Meierhold and Mikhail Chekhov, 
rebelled against it and proposed their own alternative "Methods," it was 
the System of Stanislavsky that became the Number 1 theory, which could 
not be questioned under Stalin.

Stalin was a big fan as well. He adored Stanislavsky and considered the 
System an achievement he can be proud of, as Soviet leaders were proud 
of their cosmonauts and ballerinas.

Demidov lived through the 30s and 40s, and tried to dirct and opened an 
acting school. his studnets adored him, and thoughgt he was a great man. 
I met some of them. When Demidov realized that his name would never be 
mentioned in respect to the acting system, he wrote his own book, his 
version of the System. For him, it was not a matter of auhtorship (he 
was more like Bakhtin kind of guy, who was not obsessed about his own 
name), but a matter of correct interpretation of what the method was. A 
group of people during the Brezhnev time were trying to collect 
information on Demidov, and I was among the fortunate who had a chance 
to read Demivov's unpublished manuscript on method acting. It was a 
fascinating book, a take on acting and emotions of the serious scholar, 
and it has persuaded me, personally, beyond the reasonable doubt, that 
he indeed was a co-author of the Method. His version was however a bit 
different, but amazingly interesting and effective. Demidov had been 
trying throughout the Stalin's time to get his book published. But he 
was stonewalled: this simply was not possible. There was One Method, One 
Stanislavsky, and Stalin would not allow anybody (especially some 
questionable scientist) to challenge the authorship of Stanislavsky, 
whom his adopted as one of this celebrities.

(Stanislavsky actually did not do a thing for his love; he was helping 
Meierhold and others to survive, but he was just "lucky" to be loved by 
Stalin.). Stanislavsky also did not create obstacles for Demidov either 
- no harm was done, but he simply ignored him.

In a sense, Demidov's manuscript, if published, would have offered an 
alternative version of the body-mind connection in acting, rooted in the 
teaching of Sechenov. And it was not that under Stalin his approach was 
suspicious. It was a matter of unquestionable authorship and authority 
of Stanislavsky that Stalin would not allow to doubt. He obviously 
projected his own rules on his pet artists and scholars: 1 leader, 1 
acting guru, 1 leading biologist, 1 linguist, etc.

Even during the Brezhnev era, those who tried to publish Demidov's 
manuscript (and I repeat - I read it and it was a serious, highly 
original and valuable work), simply could not do this. The unoffcial 
taboo or censorship was still there... Imagine that: censorship of the 
Method acting!..

Demidov was teaching, among other things, how to engage the micro-units 
of muscles and body language, humdreds of times more detailed that the 
Method engages, and his version of method, is valuable for close-ups 
especially - he was completimng his book in the 30s, likely with cinema 
art in mind.

Perhaps the time came to give some credit to Nikolai Demidov and publish 
"his Method". After all, Mikhail Chekhov's alternative method was also 
prohibited in Russia almost until peresroika, but now it is published in 
many books and widely accessible around the world.

If somebody would like to research the issue or write about Demidov, the 
student of Sechenov, I would be happy to share everything I know on the 
subject. Besides, hopefully, Demidov's unpublished manuscript is still 
somewhere out there, in Russia.

All best,

Lily Alexander
NYU

Andy Hicks wrote:

>In Semyon Babaevskii's Svet nad zemlei, ownership of a book by I.M. Sechenov
>causes a character to rise in the esteem of the regional Party Secretary. 
>Ivan Sechenov (1829-1905) was apparently a founder of neurophysiology and
>seems to be regarded as a precursor to I.P. Pavlov and his work with
>conditioned reflexes.  Other than that vague resonance, do the members of
>this list know of any cultural significance that Sechenov might have in the
>Stalinist era?
>
>
>Many thanks,
>
>
>Andy Hicks
>
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From s-hill4 at UIUC.EDU  Fri Jan 12 01:05:42 2007
From: s-hill4 at UIUC.EDU (Prof Steven P Hill)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 19:05:42 -0600
Subject: Kundera article (cont.)
Message-ID: <THU.11.JAN.2007.190542.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear colleagues:

To the extent that Mr Kundera would like at least a few people to be 
interested enough to want to learn to read and study his (early) writings 
in the original Czech, he should keep in mind that those interested folks
probably will be studying and/or teaching in departments and programs 
of Slavic languages and literatures.  Such people might start with Russian 
(as a language), and proceed to other Slavic languages, including Czech
 -- which would be made much more accessible by prior studies within 
the same language family (Slavic).

Moreover, in time (if not already), new Katerina Clarks and new Sheila 
Fitzpatricks may appear on the scene, who will launch serious studies 
of various "satellite" literatures and cultures in the era of the Soviet bloc 
(c. 1946-89).  If such new looks at eastern- and Soviet-oriented literatures 
and cultures are undertaken, including various permutations of "socialist 
realism," all around the Soviet bloc, such studies would probably include 
also what was then Czechoslovakia -- and Mr Kundera's role in that 
eastern- and Soviet-oriented literature.

Best wishes to all,
Steven P Hill,
University of Illinois.
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From chaput at FAS.HARVARD.EDU  Fri Jan 12 03:32:08 2007
From: chaput at FAS.HARVARD.EDU (Patricia Chaput)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:32:08 -0500
Subject: AAASS: panel on verbs of motion
In-Reply-To: <1168018919l.606420l.0l@psu.edu>
Message-ID: <THU.11.JAN.2007.223208.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Are you still looking for participants in your panel?  Verbs of motion 
are one of my favorite topics and I would be happy to be a discussant or 
chair (or panelist).  Pat Chaput

**************************************************
Professor Patricia R. Chaput
Director of the Language Program
Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures
Barker Center, 12 Quincy Street
Harvard University
Cambridge, MA  02138

Email:  chaput at fas.harvard.edu
Department tel.  617-495-4065
Department fax  617-496-4466
Home tel. 508-651-3871
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On 1/5/07 12:42 PM, Viktoria Driagina wrote:
> Dear Seelangers,
> 
> We have put together a panel on Russian verbs of motion and associated insights from teaching and research. We are looking for a chair and discussants. If you are interested in participating, please contact me at driagina at psu.edu.
> 
> Best,
> Viktoria Driagina.
> 
> 
> ==================
> 
> Viktoria Driagina
> 
> PhD Candidate in Applied Linguistics (ABD)
> 
> Linguistics and Applied Language Studies
> 
> The Pennsylvania State University
> 
> University Park, PA 16802
> 
> Phone: (814) 865-7365
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From chaput at FAS.HARVARD.EDU  Fri Jan 12 03:36:32 2007
From: chaput at FAS.HARVARD.EDU (Patricia Chaput)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:36:32 -0500
Subject: AAASS: panel on verbs of motion
In-Reply-To: <45A70138.5030608@fas.harvard.edu>
Message-ID: <THU.11.JAN.2007.223632.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Sorry, my mistake, this was supposed to have gone to Viktoria Driagina.
Pat Chaput

On 1/11/07 10:32 PM, Patricia Chaput wrote:
> Are you still looking for participants in your panel?  Verbs of motion 
> are one of my favorite topics and I would be happy to be a discussant or 
> chair (or panelist).  Pat Chaput
> 
> **************************************************
> Professor Patricia R. Chaput
> Director of the Language Program
> Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures
> Barker Center, 12 Quincy Street
> Harvard University
> Cambridge, MA  02138
> 
> Email:  chaput at fas.harvard.edu
> Department tel.  617-495-4065
> Department fax  617-496-4466
> Home tel. 508-651-3871
> **************************************************
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/5/07 12:42 PM, Viktoria Driagina wrote:
> 
>> Dear Seelangers,
>>
>> We have put together a panel on Russian verbs of motion and associated 
>> insights from teaching and research. We are looking for a chair and 
>> discussants. If you are interested in participating, please contact me 
>> at driagina at psu.edu.
>>
>> Best,
>> Viktoria Driagina.
>>
>>
>> ==================
>>
>> Viktoria Driagina
>>
>> PhD Candidate in Applied Linguistics (ABD)
>>
>> Linguistics and Applied Language Studies
>>
>> The Pennsylvania State University
>>
>> University Park, PA 16802
>>
>> Phone: (814) 865-7365
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From kmhst16 at PITT.EDU  Fri Jan 12 03:49:05 2007
From: kmhst16 at PITT.EDU (K. M. Harkness)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:49:05 -0500
Subject: SHERA?
Message-ID: <THU.11.JAN.2007.224905.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Does anyone know what has become of SHERA (that¹s Society of Historians of
East European and Russian Art and Architecture, not She-Ra)?  I¹ve attempted
to contact the (last-known) officers regarding renewing my lapsed
membership, but have heard nothing.  Perhaps the society is now defunct?
Any information will be much appreciated.

Thank you.

Kristen

-- 
Kristen Harkness
University of Pittsburgh
Department of the History of Art and Architecture
104 Frick Fine Arts Building
Pittsburgh, PA  15224-2213
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From timur2000 at JUNO.COM  Fri Jan 12 06:41:47 2007
From: timur2000 at JUNO.COM (Tim West)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 06:41:47 GMT
Subject: Kundera article (cont.)
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From Alexandra.Smith at ED.AC.UK  Fri Jan 12 10:17:18 2007
From: Alexandra.Smith at ED.AC.UK (Alexandra Smith)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 10:17:18 +0000
Subject: I.M. Sechenov
In-Reply-To: <45A6C63A.5080500@utoronto.ca>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.JAN.2007.101718.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Andy Hicks,

If you wish to understand Sechenov's legacy in Stalin's Russia you  
might be interested in consulting one important book on the  
development of psychological studies in Soviet times. See: David  
Joravsky. Russian Psychology: A Critical History, New York: Basic  
Blackwell, 1989. It contains several references to Sechenov and  
provides lots of useful insights into cultural and political debates  
of the 1920-50s.

Best,
Alexandra



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Lecturer in Russian
School of European Languages and Cultures
The University of Edinburgh
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From peitlovakatarina at TISCALI.IT  Fri Jan 12 11:30:37 2007
From: peitlovakatarina at TISCALI.IT (Peitlova Katarina)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 12:30:37 +0100
Subject: Kundera article (cont.)
Message-ID: <FRI.12.JAN.2007.123037.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

  Such people might start with Russian
> (as a language), and proceed to other Slavic languages, including Czech
> -- which would be made much more accessible by prior studies within
> the same language family (Slavic).

It's rather curious : if I want to study Japanese language  I should at 
first study Chines? I don't think that everybody should at first learn 
Russian language if he wants to know Czech,Slovak,Polish,Serb,Croat - and so 
long - other Slavic languages.  There's really abyss between Russian and 
Czech. First and not least the alphabet / cyrillic against latin.  We should 
finally recognize that nowadays  doesn't exist old  geopolitical "division" 
of  part of Europe to so called "EAST " and "WEST"  .I can't hear anymore 
how Italian TV news program continues  to call "paesi dell'est"  non 
distinguishing the existence of present  political changes  after 1989.
Division "EAST" and "WEST" was purely political  - it came in usage  after 
second WW 1945. Nobody called  Czechoslovakia  ,established in 1918, 
"EAST". It was and still is geografically the Central part of Europe . So 
STOP with this EAST! And I think that  even Kundera  is trying to  call 
attention  to this problem : that  Czechs   with their culture,literature 
and story don't make part of "oriental" Russia.

PhDr.Katarina Peitlova -Tocci
Italia 

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From jwilson at ALINGA.COM  Fri Jan 12 11:35:56 2007
From: jwilson at ALINGA.COM (Josh Wilson)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 14:35:56 +0300
Subject: An interesting article
In-Reply-To: <143408770701101003v1a783d94h5191386c80be9b91@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.JAN.2007.143556.0300.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I've just managed to get through this article - and must say that to a large
part, I just don't get it.  

The major flaw that I see here is that human thought cannot be understood
purely in terms of biology. As evolution goes, it may have been handy to
have a brain capable of basic communication to pass on knowledge about
hunting, growing, and even food storage. However, in terms of survival,
there is no reason we should have brains capable of nuclear physics,
international diplomacy, or, for that matter, literature. The brain is
large, expensive, evolutionary unsound organ. Long story short, thought and
the development of thought cannot be understood in terms of pure biology -
it is now a process and science all of its own. 

I also have a hard time imagining, and the author here doesn't seem to
exactly say, how this new science (beyond the rigorous critical theories and
processes we already have) is supposed to help us to understand specific
works of literature or specific authors. I agree that expansive histories of
developmental literature and author's place within that could be interesting
- but we already have criticisms that can look at social and technological
influences on literature - if I'm right that a biological approach to
thought is wanting, then but how else is Biocriticism supposed to be
applied?  

Just two cents, cuz I like intellectual batting about... 

JW 

-----Original Message-----
From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
[mailto:SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu] On Behalf Of Matthew Herrington
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 9:04 PM
To: SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] An interesting article

To call this article "interesting" is to give it too much credit.
"Shrill" and "confused" better characterize it.

-Matthew Herrington


On 1/10/07, Shlomit Gorin <s-gorin at northwestern.edu> wrote:
> Though this article doesn't pertain specifically to Slavic studies, it is
of relevance to anyone
> studying literature.
>
> http://www.theamericanscholar.org/gettingitallwrong-boyd.html
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From colkitto at ROGERS.COM  Fri Jan 12 14:04:35 2007
From: colkitto at ROGERS.COM (colkitto)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 09:04:35 -0500
Subject: Kundera article in New Yorker
Message-ID: <FRI.12.JAN.2007.090435.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

...........

On the other hand, I think, pace Robert Orr, that there is a common Celtic
cultural identity that goes beyond  language and which is reflected in such
events as the Celtic Connections music festival and various Celtic film
festivals.

........
John Dunn.


John Dunn
Honorary Research Fellow, SMLC (Slavonic Studies)
University of Glasgow, Scotland

Address:
Via Carolina Coronedi Berti 6
40137 Bologna
Italy
Tel.: +39 051/1889 8661
e-mail: J.Dunn at slavonic.arts.gla.ac.uk
johnanthony.dunn at fastwebnet.it

The whole point about this "Celtic cultural identity" is that a lot of it is
New Age, Wiccan, etc., etc., and a check of much "Celtic", e.g., music
reveals that there is very little that is actually Celtic,  pace John Dunn.
A partial hypothetical parallel in Slavic might  be if it had been
hypothesised that in Caesar's time there had been Polabian-speaking druids
(or the equivalent), and various locals had "revived" their customs during
the Enlightenment, while conducting all their ceremonies in German, and
referring to this phenomenon as "Slavic mysticism", "Old Slavic religion",
etc., etc.

As this not a Celtic thread (despite a couple of Celtic borrowings in early
Slavic, e.g., sluga),  and theories of a Celtic substratum to explain Polish
mazurzenie (yeah, really), I will end here by citing my own article on the
topic: "Demythologising Celtic - Celtic as non-Exotic Compared with Other
Linguistic Systems", Journal of Celtic Language Learning 7: 5-44, 2002.

Robert Orr
.

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From cllazm at HOFSTRA.EDU  Fri Jan 12 15:32:35 2007
From: cllazm at HOFSTRA.EDU (Alexandar Mihailovic)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 10:32:35 -0500
Subject: Kundera article (cont.)
Message-ID: <FRI.12.JAN.2007.103235.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Given that Japanese and Chinese don't belong to the same language group, I don't thing anyone 
argues that Chinese would help in the study of Japanese.   While Japanese does use a large 
number of characters borrowed from Chinese, I haven't heard any specialist in Japanese assert that 
a prior knowledge of Chinese is particularly useful in coming to grips with the vocabulary and 
linguistic paradigms of Japanese, which are quite different from those that Chinese uses.   
Speaking from my own experience, I do think that a prior knowledge of a Slavic language can be 
somewhat useful in the transition in studying other Slavic languages.  I have found that Americans 
who were raised speaking West and South Slavic languages are able to grasp certain grammatical 
structures more quickly than other students, although of course they later run into difficulties that 
non-Slavic speaking students don't have (i.e., the dreaded cognates and "false friends" in 
vocabulary).

Alex Mihailovic

On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 12:30:37 +0100, Peitlova Katarina <peitlovakatarina at TISCALI.IT> wrote:

>  Such people might start with Russian
>> (as a language), and proceed to other Slavic languages, including Czech
>> -- which would be made much more accessible by prior studies within
>> the same language family (Slavic).
>
>It's rather curious : if I want to study Japanese language  I should at
>first study Chines? I don't think that everybody should at first learn
>Russian language if he wants to know Czech,Slovak,Polish,Serb,Croat - and so
>long - other Slavic languages.  There's really abyss between Russian and
>Czech. First and not least the alphabet / cyrillic against latin.  We should
>finally recognize that nowadays  doesn't exist old  geopolitical "division"
>of  part of Europe to so called "EAST " and "WEST"  .I can't hear anymore
>how Italian TV news program continues  to call "paesi dell'est"  non
>distinguishing the existence of present  political changes  after 1989.
>Division "EAST" and "WEST" was purely political  - it came in usage  after
>second WW 1945. Nobody called  Czechoslovakia  ,established in 1918,
>"EAST". It was and still is geografically the Central part of Europe . So
>STOP with this EAST! And I think that  even Kundera  is trying to  call
>attention  to this problem : that  Czechs   with their culture,literature
>and story don't make part of "oriental" Russia.
>
>PhDr.Katarina Peitlova -Tocci
>Italia
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From marc at ADLERPACIFIC.COM  Fri Jan 12 15:36:22 2007
From: marc at ADLERPACIFIC.COM (Marc Adler)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 09:36:22 -0600
Subject: Kundera article (cont.)
In-Reply-To: <20070111190542.AHU26824@expms6.cites.uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.JAN.2007.093622.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Prof Steven P Hill(e)k dio:

> To the extent that Mr Kundera would like at least a few people to be 
> interested enough to want to learn to read and study his (early) writings 
> in the original Czech, he should keep in mind that those interested folks

If he wanted people to study Czech, he shouldn't have certified the 
French translations of those early works as being of equal literary 
value as the original. What an insult to the Czech language!

-- 
Marc Adler
marc at adlerpacific.com

Gauzak ez dira multzutu eta berretu
behar, mengoarik eta premiarik gabe.

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From avs2120 at COLUMBIA.EDU  Fri Jan 12 15:53:31 2007
From: avs2120 at COLUMBIA.EDU (Andrey Shcherbenok)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 10:53:31 -0500
Subject: Kundera article (cont.)
In-Reply-To: <004801c7363d$1bcc3060$6cfbde54@amministrazione>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.JAN.2007.105331.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Slavoj Zizek once noted that almost every country in Europe has
traditionally perceived itself as the outpost of the civilized "West"
bordering with oriental barbarians on the East. Indeed, to extend Zizek's
examples, in their own self-conception Great Britain is, of course, more
civilized than continental Europe, France has to defend European values
against barbarian oriental Germany, Slovenia is an outpost of the West
against the oriental orthodox Serbia, Germans, of course, regard countries
like Slovenia or Poland as essentially Eastern, Poland sees itself as the
desperate defender of civilization against the barbarian pressure of the
oriental Russian Empire, Ukraine is, as we know, part of Europe, unlike its
oriental neighbor on the East, and Russia more often than not perceived
itself as the essentially Western country protecting Europe from the attacks
of Mongolian hordes and exporting European civilization to Central Asia et
al. So, I believe Kundera's article is just another instance of the same
speculative way of thinking, made more urgent by the struggle of the new
members of the EU not to be regarded second-rate compared with the EU's
older members.

Andrey Shcherbenok
Columbia University

-----Original Message-----
From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
[mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of Peitlova Katarina
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 6:31 AM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Kundera article (cont.)

  Such people might start with Russian
> (as a language), and proceed to other Slavic languages, including Czech
> -- which would be made much more accessible by prior studies within
> the same language family (Slavic).

It's rather curious : if I want to study Japanese language  I should at 
first study Chines? I don't think that everybody should at first learn 
Russian language if he wants to know Czech,Slovak,Polish,Serb,Croat - and so

long - other Slavic languages.  There's really abyss between Russian and 
Czech. First and not least the alphabet / cyrillic against latin.  We should

finally recognize that nowadays  doesn't exist old  geopolitical "division" 
of  part of Europe to so called "EAST " and "WEST"  .I can't hear anymore 
how Italian TV news program continues  to call "paesi dell'est"  non 
distinguishing the existence of present  political changes  after 1989.
Division "EAST" and "WEST" was purely political  - it came in usage  after 
second WW 1945. Nobody called  Czechoslovakia  ,established in 1918, 
"EAST". It was and still is geografically the Central part of Europe . So 
STOP with this EAST! And I think that  even Kundera  is trying to  call 
attention  to this problem : that  Czechs   with their culture,literature 
and story don't make part of "oriental" Russia.

PhDr.Katarina Peitlova -Tocci
Italia 

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From alexander.brookes at YALE.EDU  Fri Jan 12 15:55:40 2007
From: alexander.brookes at YALE.EDU (Alexander Brookes)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 10:55:40 -0500
Subject: AAASS panel on nation and literature
In-Reply-To: <20070111104513.AIK93693@expms1.cites.uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.JAN.2007.105540.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Mr. Cooper,

Cheers, thanks for your reply.  Take care, Alec

-----Original Message-----
From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
[mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of David L. Cooper
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 11:45 AM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: [SEELANGS] AAASS panel on nation and literature

Seelangers,

We are looking for an additional paper for a panel on literature and
nation in 19th century Russia. Current panel papers address Gogol's
national sublime and Andrei Turgenev and the national turn in Russian
criticism. Please contact me offlist if you are interested in joining
the panel (dlcoop at uiuc.edu). This is last minute, so don't wait! 

Thanks,
David
--------------------------
David L. Cooper
Assistant Professor
Slavic Languages and Literatures
Ph: 217-244-4666

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From alexander.brookes at YALE.EDU  Fri Jan 12 15:56:39 2007
From: alexander.brookes at YALE.EDU (Alexander Brookes)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 10:56:39 -0500
Subject: AAASS panel on nation and literature
In-Reply-To: <000601c73662$1bfb56e0$0a01000a@PC246622175321>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.JAN.2007.105639.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Oi, sorry  - Alec

-----Original Message-----
From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
[mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of Alexander Brookes
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 10:56 AM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] AAASS panel on nation and literature

Dear Mr. Cooper,

Cheers, thanks for your reply.  Take care, Alec

-----Original Message-----
From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
[mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of David L. Cooper
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 11:45 AM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: [SEELANGS] AAASS panel on nation and literature

Seelangers,

We are looking for an additional paper for a panel on literature and
nation in 19th century Russia. Current panel papers address Gogol's
national sublime and Andrei Turgenev and the national turn in Russian
criticism. Please contact me offlist if you are interested in joining
the panel (dlcoop at uiuc.edu). This is last minute, so don't wait! 

Thanks,
David
--------------------------
David L. Cooper
Assistant Professor
Slavic Languages and Literatures
Ph: 217-244-4666

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From aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU  Fri Jan 12 15:58:58 2007
From: aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU (Alina Israeli)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 10:58:58 -0500
Subject: Kundera article (cont.)
In-Reply-To: <45A7AAF6.30306@adlerpacific.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.JAN.2007.105858.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I don't know these French translations nor Mr. Kundera's reasons for  
certifying them, but I'd like to open another can of worms:

Wouldn't some list members agree that Pasternak's translations are  
con-genius to the original and works of art in and of themselves  
(Shakespeare and Goethe, for ex)? The same could be said of  
Lozinsky's translations, of Cola Brugnon, for example. I could find a  
few more amazing translators: Rita Rajt-Kovaleva, Golyshev, Ljubimov  
and others, of course.

> If he wanted people to study Czech, he shouldn't have certified the  
> French translations of those early works as being of equal literary  
> value as the original. What an insult to the Czech language!


Alina Israeli
LFS, American University
4400 Massachusetts Ave., NW
Washington DC. 20016
(202) 885-2387 	
fax (202) 885-1076
aisrael at american.edu




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From kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM  Fri Jan 12 16:09:03 2007
From: kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Robert Chandler)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:09:03 +0000
Subject: Kundera article (and insults.)
In-Reply-To: <45A7AAF6.30306@adlerpacific.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.JAN.2007.160903.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Seelangers,

Kundera was not insulting the Czech language, but Marc Adler is certainly
insulting translators.  It may not happen often but it is certainly not
impossible for a translation to be as fine as an original work; it can even
be finer (Poe is said to be more highly thought of in France than in the USA
because he was translated by Baudelaire).  Maybe Kundera was just feeling
grateful to his translators; maybe he genuinely believed what he was saying.
Either way, there is no insult to the Czech language.  What makes a work
great (whether it is original or translated) is the talent of the writer or
translator - not the language it is written in!

Best Wishes to all,

R.

> Prof Steven P Hill(e)k dio:
> 
>> To the extent that Mr Kundera would like at least a few people to be
>> interested enough to want to learn to read and study his (early) writings
>> in the original Czech, he should keep in mind that those interested folks
> 
> If he wanted people to study Czech, he shouldn't have certified the
> French translations of those early works as being of equal literary
> value as the original. What an insult to the Czech language!

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From colkitto at ROGERS.COM  Fri Jan 12 16:12:10 2007
From: colkitto at ROGERS.COM (colkitto@rogers.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 11:12:10 -0500
Subject: Kundera article (cont.)
Message-ID: <FRI.12.JAN.2007.111210.0500.>

Turkish is equally distant from Arabic and Persian from the point of view
of language groups, and yet it used to be commonplace to study Arabic and
Persian as part of studying Turkish.  As the late G.L. Lewis put it,
however, that was like learnign Latin and Greek as part of studying English.


Given that Japanese and Chinese don't belong to the same language group, I
don't thing anyone 
argues that Chinese would help in the study of Japanese.   While Japanese
does use a large 
number of characters borrowed from Chinese, I haven't heard any specialist
in Japanese assert that 
a prior knowledge of Chinese is particularly useful in coming to grips with
the vocabulary and 
linguistic paradigms of Japanese, which are quite different from those that
Chinese uses.   
Speaking from my own experience, I do think that a prior knowledge of a
Slavic language can be 
somewhat useful in the transition in studying other Slavic languages.  I
have found that Americans 
who were raised speaking West and South Slavic languages are able to grasp
certain grammatical 
structures more quickly than other students, although of course they later
run into difficulties that 
non-Slavic speaking students don't have (i.e., the dreaded cognates and
"false friends" in 
vocabulary).

Alex Mihailovic

On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 12:30:37 +0100, Peitlova Katarina
<peitlovakatarina at TISCALI.IT> wrote:

>  Such people might start with Russian
>> (as a language), and proceed to other Slavic languages, including Czech
>> -- which would be made much more accessible by prior studies within
>> the same language family (Slavic).
>
>It's rather curious : if I want to study Japanese language  I should at
>first study Chines? I don't think that everybody should at first learn
>Russian language if he wants to know Czech,Slovak,Polish,Serb,Croat - and
so
>long - other Slavic languages.  There's really abyss between Russian and
>Czech. First and not least the alphabet / cyrillic against latin.  We
should
>finally recognize that nowadays  doesn't exist old  geopolitical "division"
>of  part of Europe to so called "EAST " and "WEST"  .I can't hear anymore
>how Italian TV news program continues  to call "paesi dell'est"  non
>distinguishing the existence of present  political changes  after 1989.
>Division "EAST" and "WEST" was purely political  - it came in usage  after
>second WW 1945. Nobody called  Czechoslovakia  ,established in 1918,
>"EAST". It was and still is geografically the Central part of Europe . So
>STOP with this EAST! And I think that  even Kundera  is trying to  call
>attention  to this problem : that  Czechs   with their culture,literature
>and story don't make part of "oriental" Russia.
>
>PhDr.Katarina Peitlova -Tocci
>Italia
>
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From Alexandra.Smith at ED.AC.UK  Fri Jan 12 16:17:14 2007
From: Alexandra.Smith at ED.AC.UK (Alexandra Smith)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:17:14 +0000
Subject: Kundera article (cont.)
In-Reply-To: <200701121555.l0CFtBH3019796@jalapeno.cc.columbia.edu>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.JAN.2007.161714.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Quoting Andrey Shcherbenok <avs2120 at COLUMBIA.EDU>:

Russia more often than not perceived
> itself as the essentially Western country protecting Europe from the attacks
> of Mongolian hordes and exporting European civilization to Central Asia et
> al.

- Andrey,

My impression is that the view expressed above represents only a  
certain group of Russian intellectuals advocating Eurasian ideas...
I also think that Kundera's previously expressed views on European  
poetry and European novel help to understand his search for new  
identity conveyed in his recently published article... And if we view  
him as postmodern author, we could detect some polemical touches with  
Masaryk who was part of the modernist paradigm... In the end of the  
day, any writer of significance wants to mould his or her image in  
accordance with his/her creative needs... It seems to me that in this  
particular article Kundera fashions himself in the clothes of  
anti-Solzhenitsyn and/or anti-Havel...since Havel stressed the point  
that living in truth should be considered as integral part of the  
Czech literary tradition...perhaps, Kundera views his own works  in  
metanarrative terms?

All best,
Alexandra


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From colkitto at ROGERS.COM  Fri Jan 12 16:17:51 2007
From: colkitto at ROGERS.COM (colkitto@rogers.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 11:17:51 -0500
Subject: Kundera article (cont.)
Message-ID: <FRI.12.JAN.2007.111751.0500.>

One can go even further west.  In Wales many people point out that Wales
was the only part of the Roman Empire not to be overrun by barbarians, and
they view the Saxons to the East as examples of the said "barbarians."


Slavoj Zizek once noted that almost every country in Europe has
traditionally perceived itself as the outpost of the civilized "West"
bordering with oriental barbarians on the East. Indeed, to extend Zizek's
examples, in their own self-conception Great Britain is, of course, more
civilized than continental Europe, France has to defend European values
against barbarian oriental Germany, Slovenia is an outpost of the West
against the oriental orthodox Serbia, Germans, of course, regard countries
like Slovenia or Poland as essentially Eastern, Poland sees itself as the
desperate defender of civilization against the barbarian pressure of the
oriental Russian Empire, Ukraine is, as we know, part of Europe, unlike its
oriental neighbor on the East, and Russia more often than not perceived
itself as the essentially Western country protecting Europe from the attacks
of Mongolian hordes and exporting European civilization to Central Asia et
al. So, I believe Kundera's article is just another instance of the same
speculative way of thinking, made more urgent by the struggle of the new
members of the EU not to be regarded second-rate compared with the EU's
older members.

Andrey Shcherbenok
Columbia University

-----Original Message-----
From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
[mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of Peitlova Katarina
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 6:31 AM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Kundera article (cont.)

  Such people might start with Russian
> (as a language), and proceed to other Slavic languages, including Czech
> -- which would be made much more accessible by prior studies within
> the same language family (Slavic).

It's rather curious : if I want to study Japanese language  I should at 
first study Chines? I don't think that everybody should at first learn 
Russian language if he wants to know Czech,Slovak,Polish,Serb,Croat - and so

long - other Slavic languages.  There's really abyss between Russian and 
Czech. First and not least the alphabet / cyrillic against latin.  We should

finally recognize that nowadays  doesn't exist old  geopolitical "division" 
of  part of Europe to so called "EAST " and "WEST"  .I can't hear anymore 
how Italian TV news program continues  to call "paesi dell'est"  non 
distinguishing the existence of present  political changes  after 1989.
Division "EAST" and "WEST" was purely political  - it came in usage  after 
second WW 1945. Nobody called  Czechoslovakia  ,established in 1918, 
"EAST". It was and still is geografically the Central part of Europe . So 
STOP with this EAST! And I think that  even Kundera  is trying to  call 
attention  to this problem : that  Czechs   with their culture,literature 
and story don't make part of "oriental" Russia.

PhDr.Katarina Peitlova -Tocci
Italia 

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From svejk at MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU  Fri Jan 12 16:23:01 2007
From: svejk at MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU (Craig Cravens)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 10:23:01 -0600
Subject: Kundera article (and insults.)
In-Reply-To: <C1CD631F.C5BB%kcf19@dial.pipex.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.JAN.2007.102301.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Unfortunately for us, the translating team of Aaron Asher (who  
doesn't know Czech) and Milan Kundera (whose English is rudimentary)  
is greatly inferior to Michael Heim (whose style is masterful in both  
languages).

If you're really interested in the whole Kundera translatorial saga,  
please see "Translating Milan Kundera" by Michelle Woods (2006).

And by the way, what's with Kundera's claim (in the article) that he  
left Czechoslovakia in the 1960s?  Is he just trying to forget his  
whole spat with Havel?

Craig



On Jan 12, 2007, at 10:09 AM, Robert Chandler wrote:

> Dear Seelangers,
>
> Kundera was not insulting the Czech language, but Marc Adler is  
> certainly
> insulting translators.  It may not happen often but it is certainly  
> not
> impossible for a translation to be as fine as an original work; it  
> can even
> be finer (Poe is said to be more highly thought of in France than  
> in the USA
> because he was translated by Baudelaire).  Maybe Kundera was just  
> feeling
> grateful to his translators; maybe he genuinely believed what he  
> was saying.
> Either way, there is no insult to the Czech language.  What makes a  
> work
> great (whether it is original or translated) is the talent of the  
> writer or
> translator - not the language it is written in!
>
> Best Wishes to all,
>
> R.
>
>> Prof Steven P Hill(e)k dio:
>>
>>> To the extent that Mr Kundera would like at least a few people to be
>>> interested enough to want to learn to read and study his (early)  
>>> writings
>>> in the original Czech, he should keep in mind that those  
>>> interested folks
>>
>> If he wanted people to study Czech, he shouldn't have certified the
>> French translations of those early works as being of equal literary
>> value as the original. What an insult to the Czech language!
>
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From marc at ADLERPACIFIC.COM  Fri Jan 12 16:37:26 2007
From: marc at ADLERPACIFIC.COM (Marc Adler)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 10:37:26 -0600
Subject: Kundera article (cont.)
In-Reply-To: <637300C9-94C1-48C8-A73A-5FB26CFD082D@american.edu>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.JAN.2007.103726.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Alina Israeli(e)k dio:
> I don't know these French translations nor Mr. Kundera's reasons for 
> certifying them, but I'd like to open another can of worms:
> 
> Wouldn't some list members agree that Pasternak's translations are 
> con-genius to the original and works of art in and of themselves 
> (Shakespeare and Goethe, for ex)? The same could be said of Lozinsky's 
> translations, of Cola Brugnon, for example. I could find a few more 
> amazing translators: Rita Rajt-Kovaleva, Golyshev, Ljubimov and others, 
> of course.

That's an interesting question, but it's different from what I'm getting 
at, which is that in Kundera's case, the author himself is saying the 
translation is just as "good" as the original. Note that he didn't say 
certify the translations as "good." By certifying their literary value, 
he's saying that the original Czech had nothing in it that couldn't be 
replaced by a French translation. Does he think so little of his native 
language? That's what perplexes me. (This is also aside from the 
question of whether originals have the inherent literary value of 
authenticity.)

-- 
Marc Adler
marc at adlerpacific.com

Gauzak ez dira multzutu eta berretu
behar, mengoarik eta premiarik gabe.

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From kpking at MTHOLYOKE.EDU  Fri Jan 12 16:40:21 2007
From: kpking at MTHOLYOKE.EDU (Katerina King)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 11:40:21 -0500
Subject: Kundera article (cont.)
In-Reply-To: <200701121555.l0CFtBH3019796@jalapeno.cc.columbia.edu>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.JAN.2007.114021.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Finally a post that gets to the crux. Thank you! I think Kundera's 
article is not about where Czech literature should be but about Kundera 
trying to position *himself* as a Western, (not Slavic!) writer, for now 
and for posterity. This is nothing new or surprising; he's been riding 
that hobby-horse for many years. It is also, if I may, a typically Czech 
stance. We hate to be grouped with Russians after the many humiliations 
of the post 1948 era. But this was not always the case in Czech history. 
Are there cultural similarities between us and other Slavs? Of course 
there are! And kicking and screaming, in French or otherwise, won't make 
that fact go away.

Sincerely,

Katya King

On 1/12/2007 10:53 AM, Andrey Shcherbenok wrote:
> Slavoj Zizek once noted that almost every country in Europe has
> traditionally perceived itself as the outpost of the civilized "West"
> bordering with oriental barbarians on the East. Indeed, to extend Zizek's
> examples, in their own self-conception Great Britain is, of course, more
> civilized than continental Europe, France has to defend European values
> against barbarian oriental Germany, Slovenia is an outpost of the West
> against the oriental orthodox Serbia, Germans, of course, regard countries
> like Slovenia or Poland as essentially Eastern, Poland sees itself as the
> desperate defender of civilization against the barbarian pressure of the
> oriental Russian Empire, Ukraine is, as we know, part of Europe, unlike its
> oriental neighbor on the East, and Russia more often than not perceived
> itself as the essentially Western country protecting Europe from the attacks
> of Mongolian hordes and exporting European civilization to Central Asia et
> al. So, I believe Kundera's article is just another instance of the same
> speculative way of thinking, made more urgent by the struggle of the new
> members of the EU not to be regarded second-rate compared with the EU's
> older members.
> 
> Andrey Shcherbenok
> Columbia University
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
> [mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of Peitlova Katarina
> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 6:31 AM
> To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Kundera article (cont.)
> 
>   Such people might start with Russian
>> (as a language), and proceed to other Slavic languages, including Czech
>> -- which would be made much more accessible by prior studies within
>> the same language family (Slavic).
> 
> It's rather curious : if I want to study Japanese language  I should at 
> first study Chines? I don't think that everybody should at first learn 
> Russian language if he wants to know Czech,Slovak,Polish,Serb,Croat - and so
> 
> long - other Slavic languages.  There's really abyss between Russian and 
> Czech. First and not least the alphabet / cyrillic against latin.  We should
> 
> finally recognize that nowadays  doesn't exist old  geopolitical "division" 
> of  part of Europe to so called "EAST " and "WEST"  .I can't hear anymore 
> how Italian TV news program continues  to call "paesi dell'est"  non 
> distinguishing the existence of present  political changes  after 1989.
> Division "EAST" and "WEST" was purely political  - it came in usage  after 
> second WW 1945. Nobody called  Czechoslovakia  ,established in 1918, 
> "EAST". It was and still is geografically the Central part of Europe . So 
> STOP with this EAST! And I think that  even Kundera  is trying to  call 
> attention  to this problem : that  Czechs   with their culture,literature 
> and story don't make part of "oriental" Russia.
> 
> PhDr.Katarina Peitlova -Tocci
> Italia 
> 
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From russell-valentino at UIOWA.EDU  Fri Jan 12 16:43:19 2007
From: russell-valentino at UIOWA.EDU (Valentino, Russell)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 10:43:19 -0600
Subject: Kundera article (cont.)
Message-ID: <FRI.12.JAN.2007.104319.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

________________________________

Alina Israeli wrote:

Wouldn't some list members agree that Pasternak's translations are 
con-genius to the original and works of art in and of themselves 
(Shakespeare and Goethe, for ex)? The same could be said of 
Lozinsky's translations, of Cola Brugnon, for example. I could find a 
few more amazing translators: Rita Rajt-Kovaleva, Golyshev, Ljubimov 
and others, of course.

This happens often into English as well. And in the context of the comment, let me plug the oldest extant Master in Fine Arts program in literary translation in the U.S., a three-year arts degree that originated in the Writer's Workshop at the University of Iowa and now exists alongside the MFAs in Ficiton, Poetry, Non-fiction, and Playwriting, as well as the International Writing Program, whose alumni include Tomaz Salamun, Viktor Pelevin, Dubravka Ugresic, and a host of others form around the world. Good translation is good writing.
 
Take a look at how all this works together here: http://www.writinguniversity.org/.
 
Russell Valentino
 

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From marc at ADLERPACIFIC.COM  Fri Jan 12 17:06:53 2007
From: marc at ADLERPACIFIC.COM (Marc Adler)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 11:06:53 -0600
Subject: Kundera article (and insults.)
In-Reply-To: <C1CD631F.C5BB%kcf19@dial.pipex.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.JAN.2007.110653.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Robert Chandler(e)k dio:

> Kundera was not insulting the Czech language, but Marc Adler is certainly
> insulting translators.  It may not happen often but it is certainly not
> impossible for a translation to be as fine as an original work; it can even
> be finer (Poe is said to be more highly thought of in France than in the USA

As someone who makes his living translating, I'm certainly not insulting 
translators, and I do believe that translations, as independent works of 
art, can reach very high levels of quality. (Full disclosure: I don't do 
literary translation - I have to feed my family, after all! ;) ) A 
translation can never replace the original, however, and that's what it 
seems to me Kundera is trying to do. If he was grateful to the 
translator, why didn't he just say that "this translation is very good"? 
By certifying the literary value of the translation as being _equal_ to 
that of the original, he's doing something more than saying the 
translation is good. He's saying the translation can take the place of 
the original.

My speculation on his motive is this: it was a pragmatic step. He wanted 
his books translated into as many languages as possible, and knew there 
were many more French (-to-native-language) translators out there than 
there were for Czech, so by certifying the French translations as equal 
to the original, he made it possible for them to be used for translation 
purposes. And indeed, many of his translations are done from the French. 
A quick browse through www.amazon.co.jp shows that "The Joke," "The 
Farewell Party," and "Life is Elsewhere" are all translated into 
Japanese from the French (by Yoshinari Nishinaga). I think most people 
on this list would question the value of a translation of a translation. 
By certifying the value of the French translation, he pre-empted any 
such questioning of translations made from those French versions.

So, if he had wanted to show gratitude, he could've done just that. He 
didn't, though, and what he did was different, and, I believe, insulting 
to the Czech language, because it's saying that there was nothing 
uniquely Czech about the original. Then again, maybe there wasn't. Maybe 
he wrote in some kind of "styleless" style devoid of linguistic 
originality or beauty (like a Tom Clancy of Czech literature). I've 
never read the originals, so I don't know. If that's the case, then I 
stand corrected.

-- 
Marc Adler
marc at adlerpacific.com

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From sglebov at SMITH.EDU  Fri Jan 12 17:16:57 2007
From: sglebov at SMITH.EDU (Sergey Glebov)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 12:16:57 -0500
Subject: FW: Kundera article (cont.)
Message-ID: <FRI.12.JAN.2007.121657.0500.>

Dear Alexandra,

Eurasianists would actually argue otherwise: they would say Russia-Eurasia
completely lacked Western notions of civilizing mission and was an organic
unity of Slavic and "Turanian" elements. In contrast, most Russian
historical writing, with minor exceptions, represented Russia as an outpost
of Christian Europe against Asia. Such was the famous view of Kliuchevsky,
for example: Muscovy created a powerful state, "thus saving the European
culture from the strikes by the Tatars. In this way we became the
arrière-garde of Europe, we guarded the rear of European civilization. But
the guard’s service is often forgotten, especially when it is well-done..." 
The Eurasianists, in fact, would say something similar to what Kundera
spelled out: there is a historical border between the Western Slavs and the
Eastern ones. It's actually interesting that Roman Jakobson referred to the
Czechs loosing "miagkost' soglasnykh" under the German influence as a sign
of their difference (recalling Jan Hus!) in his book on the Eurasian
language union. 

I fully subscribe to Andrey Scherbenok's view. What strikes me is how
essentialist is Kundera's perception of "East" and "West" and how much his
rhetoric of orientalizing the Russians (and by default Ukrainians and
Belarusians, I suppose) reminds one of a classic WestCiv narrative of 50
years ago or so.   
Having said that, I also do not see any point in claiming that there indeed
exists any common "Slavic culture." But there is also no point in denying
that Central AND Eastern Europe shared a lot of historical experiences:
belated modernization, late survival of serfdom, belonging to multiethnic
and dynastic empires of the Habsburgs, the Hohenzollerns, the Romanovs and
the Ottomans, often "incomplete" social structure of national movements,
common experiences of highly authoritarian regimes in the interwar period
(with the single exception of Czechoslovakia), and the most recent
experiences of Soviet-style Communism. Some of these are definitely tragic
historical experiences, to say the least, but it is naïve to deny them a
commonality in CEE... 

My apologies for this historical intervention into a philological and
linguistic debate.

Kind regards,

Sergey Glebov

-----Original Message-----
From: Alexandra Smith [mailto:Alexandra.Smith at ED.AC.UK] 
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: Kundera article (cont.)

Quoting Andrey Shcherbenok <avs2120 at COLUMBIA.EDU>:

Russia more often than not perceived
> itself as the essentially Western country protecting Europe from the
attacks
> of Mongolian hordes and exporting European civilization to Central Asia et
> al.

- Andrey,

My impression is that the view expressed above represents only a  
certain group of Russian intellectuals advocating Eurasian ideas...
I also think that Kundera's previously expressed views on European  
poetry and European novel help to understand his search for new  
identity conveyed in his recently published article... And if we view  
him as postmodern author, we could detect some polemical touches with  
Masaryk who was part of the modernist paradigm... In the end of the  
day, any writer of significance wants to mould his or her image in  
accordance with his/her creative needs... It seems to me that in this  
particular article Kundera fashions himself in the clothes of  
anti-Solzhenitsyn and/or anti-Havel...since Havel stressed the point  
that living in truth should be considered as integral part of the  
Czech literary tradition...perhaps, Kundera views his own works  in  
metanarrative terms?

All best,
Alexandra


=====================================
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Lecturer in Russian
School of European Languages and Cultures
The University of Edinburgh
David Hume Tower
George Square
Edinburgh EX8 9JX
UK

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From vanya1v at YAHOO.COM  Fri Jan 12 17:59:46 2007
From: vanya1v at YAHOO.COM (J.W.)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 12:59:46 -0500
Subject: Modern Russian literary text
Message-ID: <FRI.12.JAN.2007.125946.0500.>

Ottawa (Canada), Friday 12/1/07 12h45 EST

Dear SEELANGers,

Two books by a fairly prominent contemporary Russian writer have
recently been published in America in my English translation.  His
well-written novel and short stories focus on the day-to-day life of
Russian Jews, mainly in the post-war period.  A few of the stories touch
upon the emigration question.

The publisher is preparing an announcement to send out to Slavic and
English literature departments across America, and would like to know
the kind of information literature professors would be most interested
in -- e.g., details about the content of the stories, relevance to
Russian-Jewish emigration to America, etc.  To what extent would
information about the author's professional background, his numerous
laudatory reviews and awards be significant in encouraging further
interest in the English translation of his books?

You may reply off-list (if you prefer) at:
jw at kanadacha.ca

Thank you in advance to responders.

J. Woodsworth

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From kbtrans at COX.NET  Fri Jan 12 18:57:26 2007
From: kbtrans at COX.NET (Kim Braithwaite)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 10:57:26 -0800
Subject: Another notable New Yorker item
Message-ID: <FRI.12.JAN.2007.105726.0800.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

First, let me say how personally edifying it has been to see all the intense interest and insightful commentary generated by the Kundera article which I (ahem) alerted the SEELANGS community to last week. Yes, I realize someone else would have picked up on it.

Now I'd like to recommend Joan Acocella's review of Martin Amis's new novel  "House of Meetings," in the January 15th  issue of the New Yorker. Quite apart from the merits of the novel, I have to say I'm a bit put off by the reviewer's smug introductory paragraph chiding Amis for seeming "to think that he was bringing us the news" (of the atrocities of the bolshevik era) in his earlier work, "Koba the Dread." I don't believe the "news" was ever brought home hard enough, even after Solzhenitsyn.

Mr Kim Braithwaite, Translator

                "Good is better than Evil, because it's nicer" - Mammy Yokum (Al Capp) 

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From sglebov at SMITH.EDU  Fri Jan 12 18:59:29 2007
From: sglebov at SMITH.EDU (Sergey Glebov)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 13:59:29 -0500
Subject: FW: Kundera article
Message-ID: <FRI.12.JAN.2007.135929.0500.>

Dear Susan,

 

No, it doesn't, it seems to me. Apart from the fact that there is little
"objective" in history or, indeed, in "the West," the Habsburg empire was as
different (or, perhaps, more different?) from France or England as it was
from the Russian empire. I find the very attempt to create "historical
regions" of Europe highly problematic. Sweden and Finland, for instance, did
not share in the Renaissance and hardly had any "feudalism." Does it make
them less "European"? And as we know from a number of recent studies, the
perception of, say, Bohemia or Hungary as "eastern" has become a commonplace
long before the 20th century. This is not to say they should be treated as
such or lumped together with Russia in some sort of "eastern bloc" thing.
But it also futile to try sustain a historical argument of a profound
difference or a boundary of "the west". 

We simply cannot take for granted inventions of cultural boundaries. It's
not an analytical concept but a concept of political practice. We should,
perhaps, be more interested in why and how these boundaries are invented,
and in that sense I think Andrey Shcherbanok's argument is right to the
point. 

The exception of Czechoslovakia from the authoritarian rule is no more
evidence that it is profoundly different from Russia than that it is, say,
profoundly different from Hungary. I am afraid, history can be of little
help to Kundera here.  

 

Susan Kresin wrote: 

 

I think that a "historical intervention," as you call it, is completely on
line here.  After all, doesn't the Hapsburg history of the Czech lands
automatically - and objectively - give them a more Western orientation that
sets them apart from Russia? The "single exception of Czechoslovakia" during
the interwar period is perhaps further evidence.

 

Susan Kresin

 

 


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From darancourlaferriere at COMCAST.NET  Fri Jan 12 20:09:30 2007
From: darancourlaferriere at COMCAST.NET (Daniel Rancour-Laferriere)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 12:09:30 -0800
Subject: Kundera article (cont.)
In-Reply-To: <20070112161714.98c4x80f4gkgkgwo@www.staffmail.ed.ac.uk>
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12 Jan 2007

Dear Andrey and Alexandra,
I think you have both caught the Russian nationalist subtext.  The 
nationalist idea of Russia taking pride in protecting Europe goes back 
to people as different as Pushkin, Blok, and Stalin.  The Eurasianist 
movement of today (e.g., Dugin) is an extreme variant of Russian 
nationalism.  Solzhenitsyn too is a Russian nationalist.  The odd thing 
is that no one yet has mentioned the Slavophiles (who were really 
Russophiles in disguise) and the pan-Slavist movement (again, really 
pan-Russian).  For details, see my ROSSIIA I RUSSKIE GLAZAMI 
AMERIKANSKOGO PSIKHOANALITIKA (Moscow: Ladomir, 2003).

Regards to the list,

Daniel Rancour-Laferriere


Alexandra Smith wrote:

> Quoting Andrey Shcherbenok <avs2120 at COLUMBIA.EDU>:
>
> Russia more often than not perceived
>
>> itself as the essentially Western country protecting Europe from the 
>> attacks
>> of Mongolian hordes and exporting European civilization to Central 
>> Asia et
>> al.
>
>
> - Andrey,
>
> My impression is that the view expressed above represents only a  
> certain group of Russian intellectuals advocating Eurasian ideas...
> I also think that Kundera's previously expressed views on European  
> poetry and European novel help to understand his search for new  
> identity conveyed in his recently published article... And if we view  
> him as postmodern author, we could detect some polemical touches with  
> Masaryk who was part of the modernist paradigm... In the end of the  
> day, any writer of significance wants to mould his or her image in  
> accordance with his/her creative needs... It seems to me that in this  
> particular article Kundera fashions himself in the clothes of  
> anti-Solzhenitsyn and/or anti-Havel...since Havel stressed the point  
> that living in truth should be considered as integral part of the  
> Czech literary tradition...perhaps, Kundera views his own works  in  
> metanarrative terms?
>
> All best,
> Alexandra
>
>
> =====================================
> Alexandra Smith (PhD, University of London)
> Lecturer in Russian
> School of European Languages and Cultures
> The University of Edinburgh
> David Hume Tower
> George Square
> Edinburgh EX8 9JX
> UK
>
> tel. +44-(0)131-511381
> fax: +44- (0) 650-3604
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From pstock at BRANDEIS.EDU  Fri Jan 12 21:19:11 2007
From: pstock at BRANDEIS.EDU (David Powelstock)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:19:11 -0500
Subject: Kundera article (cont.)
In-Reply-To: <20070111190542.AHU26824@expms6.cites.uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.JAN.2007.161911.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

 
First, Kundera avowedly and emphatically does not care whether anyone reads
his works in Czech. He doesn't even write them in Czech anymore. That's what
I take to be his point, right or wrong.

Second, while I personally am intrigued by the idea of studying Kundera and
others in the context of "Soviet bloc literature," it is probably Kundera's
worst nightmare. 

The elephant in the room is this: Kundera wants to be thought of as a "World
Writer," and this drives much of what he says and does. His explicit reason
for writing in French is that there are more translators from French into
other languages than from Czech. It's a pretty consistent position, if
somewhat megalomaniacal.

His antipathy toward being associated with "the Russians" is a bit more
peevish, and it leads him to a position that seems somewhat in tension with
"World Literature" program: as an alternative to reading Czech literature in
a (non-existent) "Slavic" context, he considers it more appropriate to read
it in a "Central European" context. I can tell you from personal teaching
experience that he is absolutely right. I have for some years taught a
contemporary "Central and East European" literature. I include Czech,
Polish, Hungarian, Romanian, and others. The title was established by
committee, so to speak, and for the same reason I include a soupcon of
Russian lit. (My ideal would be to call it Central European and drop the
Russian out of it.) The Russian stands out like a sore thumb in a course of
study that regularly surprises me with newer and deeper threads of
coherence.  But what Kundera really wants, I suspect, is to be seen as
utterly transcending geography. His Russophobic peeve leads him to stray
from this a bit in the article, is how I read it.

Cheers,
David

David Powelstock 
Asst. Prof. of Russian & East European Literatures 
Undergraduate Advising Head, Russian Language and Literature 
Chair, Program in Russian & East European Studies 
Brandeis University 
GREA, MS 024 
Waltham, MA  02454-9110 
781.736.3347 (Office) 


-----Original Message-----
From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
[mailto:SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu] On Behalf Of Prof Steven P Hill
<snip>

To the extent that Mr Kundera would like at least a few people to be
interested enough to want to learn to read and study his (early) writings in
the original Czech, he should keep in mind that those interested folks
probably will be studying and/or teaching in departments and programs of
Slavic languages and literatures.  Such people might start with Russian (as
a language), and proceed to other Slavic languages, including Czech
 -- which would be made much more accessible by prior studies within the
same language family (Slavic).

Moreover, in time (if not already), new Katerina Clarks and new Sheila
Fitzpatricks may appear on the scene, who will launch serious studies of
various "satellite" literatures and cultures in the era of the Soviet bloc
(c. 1946-89).  If such new looks at eastern- and Soviet-oriented literatures
and cultures are undertaken, including various permutations of "socialist
realism," all around the Soviet bloc, such studies would probably include
also what was then Czechoslovakia -- and Mr Kundera's role in that
eastern- and Soviet-oriented literature.

Best wishes to all,
Steven P Hill,
University of Illinois.
__ __ __ __ ___ __ __ __

   

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From avs2120 at COLUMBIA.EDU  Fri Jan 12 21:51:54 2007
From: avs2120 at COLUMBIA.EDU (Andrey Shcherbenok)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:51:54 -0500
Subject: Kundera article (cont.)
In-Reply-To: <45A7EAFA.8060800@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.JAN.2007.165154.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Daniel,

I can only quote Sergey Glebov's post on this point:

>Eurasianists would actually argue otherwise: they would say Russia-Eurasia
>completely lacked Western notions of civilizing mission and was an organic
>unity of Slavic and "Turanian" elements. In contrast, most Russian
>historical writing, with minor exceptions, represented Russia as an outpost
>of Christian Europe against Asia. <...> 

I do not think that thinkers as different as Kliuchevsky and Dugin can fit
under the same category of Russian nationalists -- except, of course, you
define Russian nationalists as a group of people who say something good
about Russia, even if for opposite reasons. I, however, do not see much
analytical benefit of the category "nationalist" defined so widely. I did
not read your article, though, so, maybe I misunderstand something.

What I find most interesting, however, is that the discourse of people like
Kliuchevsky is structurally very similar to that of many Polish or French or
German or Serbian or Ukrainian or whatever authors, including Kundera, who
would all position their respective countries as the outposts of European
civilization bordering with the orientalized non-European (or at least
not-quite-European) East. What particular culture qualifies as "East" is,
therefore, purely relational -- as Sergey Glebov wrote, cultural boundaries
is not an analytical concept but a concept of political practice. Depending
of what factors you emphasize, they can be drawn pretty much wherever one
pleases.

Andrey Shcherbenok


-----Original Message-----
From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
[mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of Daniel Rancour-Laferriere
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 3:10 PM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Kundera article (cont.)

12 Jan 2007

Dear Andrey and Alexandra,
I think you have both caught the Russian nationalist subtext.  The 
nationalist idea of Russia taking pride in protecting Europe goes back 
to people as different as Pushkin, Blok, and Stalin.  The Eurasianist 
movement of today (e.g., Dugin) is an extreme variant of Russian 
nationalism.  Solzhenitsyn too is a Russian nationalist.  The odd thing 
is that no one yet has mentioned the Slavophiles (who were really 
Russophiles in disguise) and the pan-Slavist movement (again, really 
pan-Russian).  For details, see my ROSSIIA I RUSSKIE GLAZAMI 
AMERIKANSKOGO PSIKHOANALITIKA (Moscow: Ladomir, 2003).

Regards to the list,

Daniel Rancour-Laferriere


Alexandra Smith wrote:

> Quoting Andrey Shcherbenok <avs2120 at COLUMBIA.EDU>:
>
> Russia more often than not perceived
>
>> itself as the essentially Western country protecting Europe from the 
>> attacks
>> of Mongolian hordes and exporting European civilization to Central 
>> Asia et
>> al.
>
>
> - Andrey,
>
> My impression is that the view expressed above represents only a  
> certain group of Russian intellectuals advocating Eurasian ideas...
> I also think that Kundera's previously expressed views on European  
> poetry and European novel help to understand his search for new  
> identity conveyed in his recently published article... And if we view  
> him as postmodern author, we could detect some polemical touches with  
> Masaryk who was part of the modernist paradigm... In the end of the  
> day, any writer of significance wants to mould his or her image in  
> accordance with his/her creative needs... It seems to me that in this  
> particular article Kundera fashions himself in the clothes of  
> anti-Solzhenitsyn and/or anti-Havel...since Havel stressed the point  
> that living in truth should be considered as integral part of the  
> Czech literary tradition...perhaps, Kundera views his own works  in  
> metanarrative terms?
>
> All best,
> Alexandra
>
>
> =====================================
> Alexandra Smith (PhD, University of London)
> Lecturer in Russian
> School of European Languages and Cultures
> The University of Edinburgh
> David Hume Tower
> George Square
> Edinburgh EX8 9JX
> UK
>
> tel. +44-(0)131-511381
> fax: +44- (0) 650-3604
> e-mail: Alexandra.Smith at ed.ac.uk
>
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From wochensky.1 at OSU.EDU  Fri Jan 12 21:51:17 2007
From: wochensky.1 at OSU.EDU (Luke Wochensky)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:51:17 -0500
Subject: AWSS Conference Deadline Extended
Message-ID: <FRI.12.JAN.2007.165117.0500.>

* Deadline Extended to 1 February 2007 *

 

INTERDISCIPLINARY CONFERENCE

 

3rd Biennial Conference of the Association for Women in Slavic Studies

 

"Beyond Little Vera: Women's Bodies, Women's Welfare in Russian and
Central/Eastern Europe"

 

April 26-27, 2007

The Ohio State University

 

Sponsored by:

 

The Ohio State University Center for Slavic and East European Studies, The
Ohio State University Department of Slavic and East European Languages and
Literatures, the Ohio State University Women's Studies Department, and the
Ohio State University Women in Development

 

This Conference will focus on discussing new research on women's health and
welfare in Russia and Central/Eastern Europe since 1990. From a variety of
disciplinary, theoretical and methodological approaches, participants will
consider the changing social, cultural and political situations in this
important part of contemporary Europe and their impact on women. BEYOND
LITTLE VERA will follow up on recent conferences addressing trafficking of
women in these parts of the world, but will expand that focus to a more
general consideration of the treatment and representation of women's bodies
and welfare. Crises in women's treatment and exploitation in Russia and
Central/Eastern Europe have perhaps never been more acute, given the now
more entrenched negative impact of the market and "globalization" in this
area. Scholarly exchange on these issues will thus be more than merely
academic, and the cross-disciplinary conversations that emerge may have an
effect on policy both in the U.S. and abroad.

 

Using a multi- and inter-disciplinary approach to women's health issues -
from domestic relations to sex education, from prison conditions to artistic
representations - the conference will explore the wide-ranging implications
of the collapse of social networks and government structures in the former
Communist bloc countries.

 

All proposals are due by: February 1, 2007 and must include:

 

1.)    A 150-200 word abstract for each paper; and

2.)    A one-page CV for each participant

 

Limited funding may be available for housing.

 

Proposals should be submitted electronically to:

The Center for Slavic and East European Studies, csees at osu.edu

 

 

Luke E. Wochensky

Assistant Director

Center for Slavic and East European Studies

The Ohio State University

303 Oxley Hall

1712 Neil Avenue

Columbus, OH 43210-1219

Phone: (614) 292-8770

Fax: (614) 292-4273

E-mail: wochensky.1 at osu.edu

 


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From cwoolhis at FAS.HARVARD.EDU  Fri Jan 12 22:23:03 2007
From: cwoolhis at FAS.HARVARD.EDU (Curt F. Woolhiser)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 17:23:03 -0500
Subject: Zora Kipel Prize for Student Research Papers
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Call for Entries: Zora Kipel Prize for Student Research Papers in Belarusian
Studies

The North American Association for Belarusian Studies (NAABS) and the family of
Zora Kipel are pleased to announce the creation of a new prize ($100) for
outstanding research papers in Belarusian studies by undergraduate and graduate
students. Unpublished papers at least 15 pages (double-spaced) in length written
between 2004 and 2007 are eligible for the 2007 competition. Winners will be
selected by a panel of judges made up of NAABS officers and members. To enter
the competition, please send three copies of your paper to the following
address by June 1, 2007:

Dr. Curt Woolhiser
Harvard University
Department of Slavic Languages
and Literatures
Barker Center 327, 12 Quincy St.
Cambridge, MA 02138-3804

Winners will be announced in the fall of 2007.


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From kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM  Fri Jan 12 23:04:54 2007
From: kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Robert Chandler)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 23:04:54 +0000
Subject: KAP DOCHKA, end of chapter 9, khot' shersti klok
Message-ID: <FRI.12.JAN.2007.230454.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear all,

In the last lines of chapter 9 Savelich comes out with an odd variant of the
more usual ‘s parshivoi ovtsy khot’s shersti klok’.

"Вот  видишь ли, сударь", - сказал старик,  - "что  я не даром подал
мошеннику челобитье:
вору-то  стало совестно, хоть башкирская долговязая  кляча да овчинный тулуп
не  стоят и половины того, что они,  мошенники, у нас украли, и того, что ты
ему  сам изволил  пожаловать;  да всe же  пригодится, а с лихой  собаки хоть
шерсти клок".
Transliterated, the last line is ‘da vses zhe prigoditsya, a s likhoi sobaki
khot’ shersti klok’.

How comical is this?  I mean, is it just an acceptable variant of the normal
saying, or is Savelich getting laughably muddled?  What is the relationship
between the tulup and the shersti klok, or is that not intended?

My draft translation is:
 “His heart knows shame after all – not that a spindle-shanked Bashkir nag
and a sheepskin coat are worth half of what the bandits stole and what you
were pleased to give the rascal yourself.  Still they’re better than nothing
– and there’s worse to be got from a vicious dog than a tuft of fur.”

But the last words no longer seem right to me.  They seem self-consciously
clever in a way that is quite wrong for Savelich.  I could, of course, just
change ‘fur’ to ‘hair’.

Best wishes,

R.


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From aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU  Fri Jan 12 23:31:43 2007
From: aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU (Alina Israeli)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 18:31:43 -0500
Subject: KAP DOCHKA, end of chapter 9, khot' shersti klok
In-Reply-To: <C1CDC496.C634%kcf19@dial.pipex.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.JAN.2007.183143.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I think it was in this article http://links.jstor.org/sici? 
sici=0037-6752(198321)1%3A27%3A1%3C1%3ATSATIT%3E2.0.CO%3B2-P that  
Sergei Davydov was linking тулуп, платок, платеж etc. In other words,  
nothing is accidental in Pushkin.

As for the phrase itself, it's quite common and not humorous at all,  
I would say.

Alina

On Jan 12, 2007, at 6:04 PM, Robert Chandler wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> In the last lines of chapter 9 Savelich comes out with an odd  
> variant of the
> more usual ‘s parshivoi ovtsy khot’s shersti klok’.
>
> "Вот  видишь ли, сударь", - сказал старик,  - "что  я не даром подал
> мошеннику челобитье:
> вору-то  стало совестно, хоть башкирская долговязая  кляча да  
> овчинный тулуп
> не  стоят и половины того, что они,  мошенники, у нас украли, и  
> того, что ты
> ему  сам изволил  пожаловать;  да всe же  пригодится, а с лихой   
> собаки хоть
> шерсти клок".
> Transliterated, the last line is ‘da vses zhe prigoditsya, a s  
> likhoi sobaki
> khot’ shersti klok’.
>
> How comical is this?  I mean, is it just an acceptable variant of  
> the normal
> saying, or is Savelich getting laughably muddled?  What is the  
> relationship
> between the tulup and the shersti klok, or is that not intended?
>
> My draft translation is:
>  “His heart knows shame after all – not that a spindle-shanked  
> Bashkir nag
> and a sheepskin coat are worth half of what the bandits stole and  
> what you
> were pleased to give the rascal yourself.  Still they’re better  
> than nothing
> – and there’s worse to be got from a vicious dog than a tuft of fur.”
>
> But the last words no longer seem right to me.  They seem self- 
> consciously
> clever in a way that is quite wrong for Savelich.  I could, of  
> course, just
> change ‘fur’ to ‘hair’.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> R.
>
>
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From karlahuebner at COMPUSERVE.COM  Sat Jan 13 01:19:03 2007
From: karlahuebner at COMPUSERVE.COM (Karla Huebner)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 02:19:03 +0100
Subject: AAASS 2007
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.0.20070104000150.01a509e8@compuserve.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.13.JAN.2007.021903.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Just a query before it's too late: I just tried to post a panel 
proposal online, but was interrupted by the phone a few times in the 
process. When I hit submit, the screen reverted to the member login. 
Is this normal or did I time out and need to try again? I haven't 
used AAASS's online proposal system before.

Thanks,

Karla Huebner
University of Pittsburgh

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From kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM  Sat Jan 13 05:58:44 2007
From: kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Robert Chandler)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 05:58:44 +0000
Subject: KAP DOCHKA, end of chapter 9, khot' shersti klok
In-Reply-To: <6D8FC482-CAAD-46FB-A7C8-E9E5B9601831@american.edu>
Message-ID: <SAT.13.JAN.2007.055844.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Alina,

I appreciate that the phrase is not inherently in any way humorous.  What
interests me is its humorousness IN CONTEXT.  Pyotr has just been given a
sheepskin coat, and then Savelich talks of 'klok shersti'.  But somehow this
kind of humour seems uncharacteristic of Savelich.  Or am I wrong?

R.




> I think it was in this article http://links.jstor.org/sici?
> sici=0037-6752(198321)1%3A27%3A1%3C1%3ATSATIT%3E2.0.CO%3B2-P that
> Sergei Davydov was linking тулуп, платок, платеж etc. In other words,
> nothing is accidental in Pushkin.
> 
> As for the phrase itself, it's quite common and not humorous at all,
> I would say.
> 
> Alina
> 
> On Jan 12, 2007, at 6:04 PM, Robert Chandler wrote:
> 
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> In the last lines of chapter 9 Savelich comes out with an odd
>> variant of the
>> more usual ‘s parshivoi ovtsy khot’s shersti klok’.
>> 
>> "Вот  видишь ли, сударь", - сказал старик,  - "что  я не даром подал
>> мошеннику челобитье:
>> вору-то  стало совестно, хоть башкирская долговязая  кляча да
>> овчинный тулуп
>> не  стоят и половины того, что они,  мошенники, у нас украли, и
>> того, что ты
>> ему  сам изволил  пожаловать;  да всe же  пригодится, а с лихой
>> собаки хоть
>> шерсти клок".
>> Transliterated, the last line is ‘da vses zhe prigoditsya, a s
>> likhoi sobaki
>> khot’ shersti klok’.
>> 
>> How comical is this?  I mean, is it just an acceptable variant of
>> the normal
>> saying, or is Savelich getting laughably muddled?  What is the
>> relationship
>> between the tulup and the shersti klok, or is that not intended?
>> 
>> My draft translation is:
>>  “His heart knows shame after all – not that a spindle-shanked
>> Bashkir nag
>> and a sheepskin coat are worth half of what the bandits stole and
>> what you
>> were pleased to give the rascal yourself.  Still they’re better
>> than nothing
>> – and there’s worse to be got from a vicious dog than a tuft of fur.”
>> 
>> But the last words no longer seem right to me.  They seem self-
>> consciously
>> clever in a way that is quite wrong for Savelich.  I could, of
>> course, just
>> change ‘fur’ to ‘hair’.
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> R.
>> 
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From Alexandra.Smith at ED.AC.UK  Sat Jan 13 09:33:18 2007
From: Alexandra.Smith at ED.AC.UK (Alexandra Smith)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 09:33:18 +0000
Subject: Kundera (cont.)/Eurasianists
In-Reply-To: <002c01c7366d$77815bd0$66841370$@edu>
Message-ID: <SAT.13.JAN.2007.093318.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Sergey,

Thank you very much for your informative response to my comments  
regards Andrey's views related to Kundera, Russian identity, etc. I've  
meant to say that the emphasis on the pivotal role of Mongols in the  
course of Russian history appears to have some Eurasianist overtones  
or rather evocative of some Eurasianist tenets...
Since you wrote your PhD thesis on Eurasianists,it would be  
interesting to know whether you agree with Halperin's statement  
(expressed in his article on Vernadsky, Slavic Review, 41, vol.3,  
autumn 1982) that "Vernadsky's conception of the role of Mongols in  
the rise of Moscow derived from Karamzin, although it had been  
rejected by Solov'ev and Kliuchevsky" (p.479).
I think that in any discussion of Russian identity in terms of spatial  
symbolism, one shouldn't overlook the fact that the North was often  
seen as a symbol of national particularity. This notion was especially  
well developed in literary texts penned by Russian Romantics. Otto  
Boele discusses this issue very  convincingly in his book "The North  
in Russian Romantic Literature" (Rodopi, Amsterdam, 1996). According  
to this book, in Russian Romantic literature the North replaced the  
East as the symbol of national identity. Russian Symbolists/modernists  
(Gippius, Merezhkovsky, Prishvin, etc.) also were interested in this  
notion and travelled to the North of Russia searching for various  
manifestation of pure Russian spirit there...The  mythologeme related  
to Kitezh was well explored in many works of the modernist period,  
too...
In sum, I think that it's important to bear in mind the  
Northern-Southern cultural paradigm, too, when we talk about Russian  
identity in cultural and literary contexts.

All very best,
Alexandra


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From Alexandra.Smith at ED.AC.UK  Sat Jan 13 10:46:22 2007
From: Alexandra.Smith at ED.AC.UK (Alexandra Smith)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 10:46:22 +0000
Subject: KAP DOCHKA
In-Reply-To: <C1CE2594.C670%kcf19@dial.pipex.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.13.JAN.2007.104622.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I appreciate that the phrase is not inherently in any way humorous.  What
> interests me is its humorousness IN CONTEXT.  Pyotr has just been given a
> sheepskin coat, and then Savelich talks of 'klok shersti'.  But somehow this
> kind of humour seems uncharacteristic of Savelich.


--Dear Robert,

It seems to me that you uncovered (in the example provided above) the  
use of symmetrical compositions in "Kapitanskaia dochka". Pushkin's  
works are full of such symmetrical compositions. Kap. dochka has a lot  
of inner rhymes of this kind; they form certain semantic clusters. In  
this particular case, the "rhyme" acts as a part of the binary  
opposition of the wolf-sheep imagery.
In my opinion, it's true to say that it is Pushkin, not Savel'ich, who  
is amused by such rhyming...
Efim Etkind wrote a book on symmetrical compositions in Pushkin's  
works. I'm sure you could find in the SSEES library. If not, you could  
check my review of this book for further details (Efim Etkind’s book  
“Simmetricheskie kompositsii u Pushkina”, SEER, vol.68, 1, January  
1990, pp.110-11.).

All very best,
Sasha


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From kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM  Sat Jan 13 10:57:52 2007
From: kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Robert Chandler)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 10:57:52 +0000
Subject: KAP DOCHKA
In-Reply-To: <20070113104622.bq1p54nw4kw4wo0c@www.staffmail.ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <SAT.13.JAN.2007.105752.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Sasha,

What you say here is nicely put:
> In my opinion, it's true to say that it is Pushkin, not Savel'ich, who
> is amused by such rhyming...

Now I just have to find a way of translating it that doesn't give the
impression that Savelich thinks he is being terribly clever!

Poka,

R.



> I appreciate that the phrase is not inherently in any way humorous.  What
>> interests me is its humorousness IN CONTEXT.  Pyotr has just been given a
>> sheepskin coat, and then Savelich talks of 'klok shersti'.  But somehow this
>> kind of humour seems uncharacteristic of Savelich.
> 
> 
> --Dear Robert,
> 
> It seems to me that you uncovered (in the example provided above) the
> use of symmetrical compositions in "Kapitanskaia dochka". Pushkin's
> works are full of such symmetrical compositions. Kap. dochka has a lot
> of inner rhymes of this kind; they form certain semantic clusters. In
> this particular case, the "rhyme" acts as a part of the binary
> opposition of the wolf-sheep imagery.
> In my opinion, it's true to say that it is Pushkin, not Savel'ich, who
> is amused by such rhyming...
> Efim Etkind wrote a book on symmetrical compositions in Pushkin's
> works. I'm sure you could find in the SSEES library. If not, you could
> check my review of this book for further details (Efim Etkind¹s book
> ³Simmetricheskie kompositsii u Pushkina², SEER, vol.68, 1, January
> 1990, pp.110-11.).
> 
> All very best,
> Sasha
> 
> 
> =============================================
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> Lecturer in Russian
> School of European Languages and Cultures
> The University of Edinburgh
> David Hume Tower
> George Square
> Edinburgh EX8 9JX
> UK
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From Mourka at HVC.RR.COM  Sat Jan 13 15:09:19 2007
From: Mourka at HVC.RR.COM (Mourka)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 10:09:19 -0500
Subject: Fw: Restoring St. Sophia
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Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 10:22 AM
Subject: Fw: Restoring St. Sophia



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tanya Tjoa" <tanya at tjoa.com>
To: <tanya at tjoa.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 12:27 AM
Subject: Restoring St. Sophia


> Dear All-
>
> I typically do not forward anything to anyone, but this msg seemed worthy
of
> exception:
>
> ----
> Restoring St. Sophia
> PLEASE FORWARD TO AS MANY RECIPIENTS AS YOU CAN.
>
> To all of you who are Orthodox and to all of you who support
> freedom of religion and protection of fundamental rights:
>
> The European Parliament is pressuring the Turkish Government to
> Restore Saint Sophia Cathedral from a museum into a Greek Orthodox Church.
> However the Parliament has set a requirement of 1,000,000 signatures on a
> Petition before it makes this conversation a prerequisite for Turkey's
> Admission into the European Union.
>
> You are requested to cast your vote at:
> http://www.hagiasophiablog.com/
>
> This is an opportunity for each of you to have an
> Impact on world events. Get as many Orthodox and
> Christian friends of yours to sign the petition and make history.
> ----
>
>

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From marc at ADLERPACIFIC.COM  Sat Jan 13 16:08:45 2007
From: marc at ADLERPACIFIC.COM (Marc Adler)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 10:08:45 -0600
Subject: Fw: Restoring St. Sophia
In-Reply-To: <00ac01c73724$cd1982e0$6501a8c0@hvc.rr.com>
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Mourka(e)k dio:

>> The European Parliament is pressuring the Turkish Government to
>> Restore Saint Sophia Cathedral from a museum into a Greek Orthodox Church.

Before it became a museum, it was a mosque for 500 years, right? 
Wouldn't it be more appropriate to convert it back to mosque?

-- 
Marc Adler
marc at adlerpacific.com

Ошибок нет, за исключением
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From es77 at NYU.EDU  Sat Jan 13 16:51:16 2007
From: es77 at NYU.EDU (Evgeny Steiner)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 11:51:16 -0500
Subject: Fw: Restoring St. Sophia
In-Reply-To: <45A9040D.4060304@adlerpacific.com>
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You seem to have a rather peculiar sense of humour, Marc!

----- Original Message -----
From: Marc Adler <marc at ADLERPACIFIC.COM>
Date: Saturday, January 13, 2007 11:08 am
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Fw: Restoring St. Sophia

> Mourka(e)k dio:
> 
> >> The European Parliament is pressuring the Turkish Government to
> >> Restore Saint Sophia Cathedral from a museum into a Greek 
> Orthodox Church.
> 
> Before it became a museum, it was a mosque for 500 years, right? 
> Wouldn't it be more appropriate to convert it back to mosque?
> 
> -- 
> Marc Adler
> marc at adlerpacific.com
> 
> Ошибок нет, за исключением
> абсолютного незнания материала.
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From dumanis at BUFFALO.EDU  Sat Jan 13 16:59:46 2007
From: dumanis at BUFFALO.EDU (Edward M Dumanis)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 11:59:46 -0500
Subject: Fw: Restoring St. Sophia
In-Reply-To: <d3b9f78e16946.45a8c7b4@mail.nyu.edu>
Message-ID: <SAT.13.JAN.2007.115946.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

There is nothing peculiar here.
Just pure logic.
I like it.
(I mean the introduced twist since the list is not a
political/ideological/religious group)

Sincerely,

Edward Dumanis



On Sat, 13 Jan 2007, Evgeny Steiner wrote:

> You seem to have a rather peculiar sense of humour, Marc!
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Marc Adler <marc at ADLERPACIFIC.COM>
> Date: Saturday, January 13, 2007 11:08 am
> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Fw: Restoring St. Sophia
> 
> > Mourka(e)k dio:
> > 
> > >> The European Parliament is pressuring the Turkish Government to
> > >> Restore Saint Sophia Cathedral from a museum into a Greek 
> > Orthodox Church.
> > 
> > Before it became a museum, it was a mosque for 500 years, right? 
> > Wouldn't it be more appropriate to convert it back to mosque?
> > 
> > -- 
> > Marc Adler
> > marc at adlerpacific.com
> > 
> > ������ ���, �� �����������
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From mantic at WISC.EDU  Sat Jan 13 17:06:50 2007
From: mantic at WISC.EDU (Marina Antic)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 18:06:50 +0100
Subject: Fw: Restoring St. Sophia
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.05.10701131154190.26822-100000@callisto.acsu.buffalo.edu>
Message-ID: <SAT.13.JAN.2007.180650.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Having just visited St. Sophia I have to say that it would be an 
unspeakable crime to "restore" it by destroying the amalgam of Christian 
and Muslim art that makes it a unique historical monument to the 
religious history of the region.

Marina Antic

Edward M Dumanis wrote:
> There is nothing peculiar here.
> Just pure logic.
> I like it.
> (I mean the introduced twist since the list is not a
> political/ideological/religious group)
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Edward Dumanis
>
>
>
> On Sat, 13 Jan 2007, Evgeny Steiner wrote:
>
>   
>> You seem to have a rather peculiar sense of humour, Marc!
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Marc Adler <marc at ADLERPACIFIC.COM>
>> Date: Saturday, January 13, 2007 11:08 am
>> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Fw: Restoring St. Sophia
>>
>>     
>>> Mourka(e)k dio:
>>>
>>>       
>>>>> The European Parliament is pressuring the Turkish Government to
>>>>> Restore Saint Sophia Cathedral from a museum into a Greek 
>>>>>           
>>> Orthodox Church.
>>>
>>> Before it became a museum, it was a mosque for 500 years, right? 
>>> Wouldn't it be more appropriate to convert it back to mosque?
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Marc Adler
>>> marc at adlerpacific.com
>>>
>>> ?????? ???, ?? ???????????
>>> ??????????? ???????? ?????????.
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From aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU  Sat Jan 13 17:14:52 2007
From: aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU (Alina Israeli)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 12:14:52 -0500
Subject: Fw: Restoring St. Sophia
In-Reply-To: <45A9040D.4060304@adlerpacific.com>
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> Before it became a museum, it was a mosque for 500 years, right?  
> Wouldn't it be more appropriate to convert it back to mosque?

Oh, but Turkey wants to join the EU and feels that its faith is its  
liability.

Alina Israeli
LFS, American University
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Washington DC. 20016
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From mp at MIPCO.COM  Sat Jan 13 17:24:53 2007
From: mp at MIPCO.COM (mipco)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 11:24:53 -0600
Subject: Armalinsky on video
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Now you can view Mikhail Armalinsky reading his poems and the short 
story. He posted his videos in the recent 149th issue of his General 
Erotic Journal http://www.mipco.com/win/GEr149.html

Alexander Sokolov
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From kbtrans at COX.NET  Sat Jan 13 17:39:40 2007
From: kbtrans at COX.NET (Kim Braithwaite)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 09:39:40 -0800
Subject: Fw: Restoring St. Sophia
Message-ID: <SAT.13.JAN.2007.093940.0800.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

And let's not forget two ancient adages of sublime wisdom (sophia):

What's mine is mine; what's yours is negotiable.
and
Possession is nine points of the law.

Here in San Diego, revered tribal elders of the Kumeyaay have been 
converting the sacred hills and valleys of their fathers into lavish 
casinos.

Mr Kim Braithwaite, Translator
                    "Good is better than Evil, because it's nicer" - Mammy 
Yokum (Al Capp)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marina Antic" <mantic at WISC.EDU>
To: <SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Fw: Restoring St. Sophia


> Having just visited St. Sophia I have to say that it would be an 
> unspeakable crime to "restore" it by destroying the amalgam of Christian 
> and Muslim art that makes it a unique historical monument to the religious 
> history of the region.
>
> Marina Antic
>
> Edward M Dumanis wrote:
>> There is nothing peculiar here.
>> Just pure logic.
>> I like it.
>> (I mean the introduced twist since the list is not a
>> political/ideological/religious group)
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Edward Dumanis
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 13 Jan 2007, Evgeny Steiner wrote:
>>
>>
>>> You seem to have a rather peculiar sense of humour, Marc!
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Marc Adler <marc at ADLERPACIFIC.COM>
>>> Date: Saturday, January 13, 2007 11:08 am
>>> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Fw: Restoring St. Sophia
>>>
>>>
>>>> Mourka(e)k dio:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> The European Parliament is pressuring the Turkish Government to
>>>>>> Restore Saint Sophia Cathedral from a museum into a Greek
>>>> Orthodox Church.
>>>>
>>>> Before it became a museum, it was a mosque for 500 years, right? 
>>>> Wouldn't it be more appropriate to convert it back to mosque?
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Marc Adler
>>>> marc at adlerpacific.com
>>>>
>>>> ?????? ???, ?? ???????????
>>>> ??????????? ???????? ?????????.
>>>>
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From sglebov at SMITH.EDU  Sat Jan 13 19:12:02 2007
From: sglebov at SMITH.EDU (Sergey Glebov)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 14:12:02 -0500
Subject: Eurasianists
Message-ID: <SAT.13.JAN.2007.141202.0500.>

Dear Alexandra,

 

all Russian historians had to say something about the Mongols, of course,
but apart from the Eurasianists very few people had anything positive to say
about them. Charles Halperin's argument regarding Karamzin's influence on
Vernadsky is substantiated because Karamzin saw the Mongols as an external
force that spearheaded the unification of divided Rus' princedoms. You have
this wonderful sentence in Karamzin's History: "". And Moscow owned its
greatness to the Khans." He also mentioned the re-enforcement of oriental
ties 
of Russia acquired through Byzantium by the Mongol invasion in his Memoir 
but never specified what these ties were. 

But Halperin talks about the impact of the Mongols on the rise of the Moscow
STATE specifically. In all other respects, Karamzin believed that settled
and Christian Russians were infinitely superior to the "barabric" Mongols
and was reluctant to admit that these barbarians had any other impact on the
course of Russian history apart from utter destruction of civilization and
the subsequent need to unify the princedoms by Moscow. Karamzin saw the
Russian state as derived from Kiev, and the latter he described as similar
to other European states (feudal monarchies of Europe were founded by
Germanic barbarians, and so was Kievan Russia by Varangians).

This very positive mentioning of the Mongols in Karamzin needs to be read in
the context of his conception of the unique and positive protective role of
the Russian autocracy, which he developed under the impact of the French
Revolution and the subsequent Napoleonic wars. Otherwise, Karamzin's view of
the Mongols doesn't seem to differ from that of other Russian historians.
Solov'ev, of course, dismissed the Mongols as "irrelevant" because they had
nothing to add to his Hegelian scheme of the development of state, and I
already mentioned Kliuchevsky's view.  I am not qualified to say much about
the North as a lieu of Russian identity in literature but I don't think the
East (meaning Muslim or nomadic east of "Eurasia") was ever (before the
Eurasianists) a powerful symbol of that identity.

 

With friendly regards,

 

Sergey

 

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Dear Sergey,

 

Thank you very much for your informative response to my comments regards
Andrey's views related to Kundera, Russian identity, etc. I've meant to say
that the emphasis on the pivotal role of Mongols in the course of Russian
history appears to have some Eurasianist overtones or rather evocative of
some Eurasianist tenets...

Since you wrote your PhD thesis on Eurasianists,it would be interesting to
know whether you agree with Halperin's statement (expressed in his article
on Vernadsky, Slavic Review, 41, vol.3, autumn 1982) that "Vernadsky's
conception of the role of Mongols in the rise of Moscow derived from
Karamzin, although it had been rejected by Solov'ev and Kliuchevsky"
(p.479).

I think that in any discussion of Russian identity in terms of spatial
symbolism, one shouldn't overlook the fact that the North was often seen as
a symbol of national particularity. This notion was especially well
developed in literary texts penned by Russian Romantics. Otto Boele
discusses this issue very  convincingly in his book "The North in Russian
Romantic Literature" (Rodopi, Amsterdam, 1996). According to this book, in
Russian Romantic literature the North replaced the East as the symbol of
national identity. Russian Symbolists/modernists (Gippius, Merezhkovsky,
Prishvin, etc.) also were interested in this notion and travelled to the
North of Russia searching for various manifestation of pure Russian spirit
there...The  mythologeme related to Kitezh was well explored in many works
of the modernist period, too...

In sum, I think that it's important to bear in mind the Northern-Southern
cultural paradigm, too, when we talk about Russian identity in cultural and
literary contexts.

 

All very best,

Alexandra

 


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From darancourlaferriere at COMCAST.NET  Sat Jan 13 08:45:08 2007
From: darancourlaferriere at COMCAST.NET (Daniel Rancour-Laferriere)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 00:45:08 -0800
Subject: Russian nationalism
Message-ID: <SAT.13.JAN.2007.004508.0800.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

12 Jan 07

Dear Colleagues,

Andrey Shcherbenok wrote:

>I do not think that thinkers as different as Kliuchevsky and Dugin can fit
>under the same category of Russian nationalists -- except, of course, you
>define Russian nationalists as a group of people who say something good
>about Russia, even if for opposite reasons. I, however, do not see much
>analytical benefit of the category "nationalist" defined so widely. I did
>not read your article, though, so, maybe I misunderstand something.
>
>What I find most interesting, however, is that the discourse of people like
>Kliuchevsky is structurally very similar to that of many Polish or French or
>German or Serbian or Ukrainian or whatever authors, including Kundera, who
>would all position their respective countries as the outposts of European
>civilization bordering with the orientalized non-European (or at least
>not-quite-European) East. What particular culture qualifies as "East" is,
>therefore, purely relational -- as Sergey Glebov wrote, cultural boundaries
>is not an analytical concept but a concept of political practice. Depending
>of what factors you emphasize, they can be drawn pretty much wherever one
>pleases.
>

I would characterize Kliuchevsky as a professional historian rather than 
a nationalist.  For example, he was well informed about the several 
nuances of meaning to the term "Rus'," and he certainly understood the 
difference between "Rus'" and "Rossiia" - which his nationalistic 
predecessor Karamzin did not (as amply demonstrated by Richard Pipes).  
As for Dugin, he is a right-wing pseudo-scholar who spouts grandiose, 
racist ideas borrowed from the Nazis, and makes incomprehensible 
statements like: "The continental integration of Eurasia is connected 
with the eschatological motifs of Aryan gnosis."  There is just no 
comparison with Kliuchevsky.

I agree that the term "East" is utilized differently by different 
authors, and that it is "relational."  That's pretty obvious.  It is 
"relational" even within the orbit of Russian nationalism, which is to 
say that Russian nationalists have a difficult time deciding whether 
Russia is East or West, Asia or Europe, etc.  They have an identity 
problem, as is so often the case with nationalists who have been studied 
by psychologists.  But I treat all that in great detail in my book (NOT 
"article"), which is available in both English and Russian.  No need to 
burden this list with things already said in books.

And why did Russian nationalism come up?  - Because that is what (in 
part) was bothering Kundera.  He has a "Russophobic peeve," as David 
Powelstock puts it.  Or, as Alexandra Smith writes, Kundera, in part,

> fashions himself in the clothes of  anti-Solzhenitsyn

And can you blame him?

Regards to the list,

Daniel Rancour-Laferriere
Emeritus Professor of Russian
University of California, Davis

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From atacama at GLOBAL.CO.ZA  Sat Jan 13 19:15:44 2007
From: atacama at GLOBAL.CO.ZA (Vera Beljakova)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 21:15:44 +0200
Subject: Russian Cellphone jargon
Message-ID: <SAT.13.JAN.2007.211544.0200.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Listers,
How do you say in Russian "give me a missed call".
In other words, Mr A. rings Mr B. on the cellphone,
but Mr. B. does not answer, in order to save money
for Mr. A.  However, Mr B. can see that Mr A. is trying to
contact him, and (graciously) returns the call at his own
expense.

Cellphone > in other countries: Mobile-, Hand- or Karmanyi
telefon.

I am asking on behalf of a South African student who wants
to tell his
Russian pals to give him a 'missed call'.

Thanks,
Dear Listers,
How do you say in Russian "give me a missed call".
In other words, Mr A. rings Mr B. on the cellphone,
but Mr. B. does not answered, in order to save money
for Mr. A.  However, Mr B. can see that Mr A. is trying to
contact him, and (graciously) returns the call at his own
expense.

Cellphone > in other countries: Mobile-, Hand- or Karmanyi
telefon.

I am asking on behalf of a South African student who wants
to tell his
Russian pals to give him a 'missed call'.

Thanks,

Vera Beljakova
Johannesburg
Vera Beljakova
Johannesburg

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From paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM  Sat Jan 13 19:59:39 2007
From: paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM (Paul B. Gallagher)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 14:59:39 -0500
Subject: Fw: Restoring St. Sophia
In-Reply-To: <16C200B5-2F9E-4940-A0C2-56FD1B94FE96@american.edu>
Message-ID: <SAT.13.JAN.2007.145939.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Alina Israeli wrote:

>> Before it became a museum, it was a mosque for 500 years, right?  
>> Wouldn't it be more appropriate to convert it back to mosque?
> 
> Oh, but Turkey wants to join the EU and feels that its faith is its  
> liability.

As everyone knows, Turkey's biggest liability is its antidemocratic 
treatment of the Kurds recently and the Armenians historically. If all 
Turkish citizens were equal, they would have been welcomed in already. 
As things stand, the Türks are first-class citizens, and everyone else 
is second class; many in Europe find that offensive.

-- 
War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
--
Paul B. Gallagher
pbg translations, inc.
"Russian Translations That Read Like Originals"
http://pbg-translations.com

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From eric.laursen at M.CC.UTAH.EDU  Sat Jan 13 20:33:26 2007
From: eric.laursen at M.CC.UTAH.EDU (eric r laursen)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 13:33:26 -0700
Subject: AAASS 2007
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.0.20070113021632.01a9ffd8@compuserve.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.13.JAN.2007.133326.0700.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I don't remember what the final page was like, but, after submitting a panel on-line, I received a confirmation e-mail.  --Eric



From: Karla Huebner
Sent: Fri 1/12/2007 6:19 PM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] AAASS 2007


Just a query before it's too late: I just tried to post a panel 
proposal online, but was interrupted by the phone a few times in the 
process. When I hit submit, the screen reverted to the member login. 
Is this normal or did I time out and need to try again? I haven't 
used AAASS's online proposal system before.

Thanks,

Karla Huebner
University of Pittsburgh

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From aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU  Sat Jan 13 21:19:43 2007
From: aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU (Alina Israeli)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 16:19:43 -0500
Subject: first-class citizens
In-Reply-To: <45A93A2B.3000704@pbg-translations.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.13.JAN.2007.161943.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

On Jan 13, 2007, at 2:59 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

> As things stand, the Türks are first-class citizens, and everyone  
> else is second class; many in Europe find that offensive.
>


And we don't find such situations anywhere else in Europe, right?


Alina Israeli
LFS, American University
4400 Massachusetts Ave., NW
Washington DC. 20016
(202) 885-2387 	
fax (202) 885-1076
aisrael at american.edu




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From paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM  Sat Jan 13 21:27:34 2007
From: paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM (Paul B. Gallagher)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 16:27:34 -0500
Subject: first-class citizens
In-Reply-To: <E9DA7701-FE06-4C9B-9CD7-32148E82DBD6@american.edu>
Message-ID: <SAT.13.JAN.2007.162734.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Alina Israeli wrote:

> On Jan 13, 2007, at 2:59 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> 
>> As things stand, the Türks are first-class citizens, and everyone  
>> else is second class; many in Europe find that offensive.
> 
> And we don't find such situations anywhere else in Europe, right?

They say we see our faults most clearly in others.

-- 
War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
--
Paul B. Gallagher
pbg translations, inc.
"Russian Translations That Read Like Originals"
http://pbg-translations.com

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From afisher at WOOSTER.EDU  Sun Jan 14 00:32:48 2007
From: afisher at WOOSTER.EDU (Anne Fisher)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 19:32:48 -0500
Subject: hours-to-proficiency measure?
Message-ID: <SAT.13.JAN.2007.193248.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Hello Seelangers,

Where can I find a table of creditable (ACTFL, DLI, etc.) standards  
estimating the number of hours of instruction required to achieve  
superior fluency in various languages?

I've googled around for this and didn't find it, so I hope somebody  
else knows more than I do.

Thanks,

Annie Fisher


________________________

Anne O. Fisher
Visiting Assistant Professor and Chair
Russian Studies
The College of Wooster
afisher at wooster.edu
330-263-2166
________________________

"The academy responds to the demands of disciplines and faculty. It  
is a culture that cherishes independence and freedom. And it is a  
culture seriously out of touch with much of America." - from an op-ed  
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From kjanicka at BRYNMAWR.EDU  Sun Jan 14 01:51:45 2007
From: kjanicka at BRYNMAWR.EDU (Katie Janicka)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 20:51:45 -0500
Subject: hours-to-proficiency measure?
In-Reply-To: <C576205B-0260-4E7D-9778-BA111CA8338D@wooster.edu>
Message-ID: <SAT.13.JAN.2007.205145.0500.>

Annie,

In her book Teaching Language in Context, Alice Omaggio Hadley gives a
table (p. 26) of expected levels of speaking proficiency according to
length of instruction per language difficulty. The information has been
adapted from Judith E. Liskin-Gasparro. ETS Oral Proficiency Testing
Manual. Princeton, NJ.: ETS, 1982.

Regards,

Katie Janicka

******************
Katie Janicka
Russian Department
Bryn Mawr College
******************

On Sat, January 13, 2007 7:32 pm, Anne Fisher said:
> Hello Seelangers,
>
> Where can I find a table of creditable (ACTFL, DLI, etc.) standards
> estimating the number of hours of instruction required to achieve
> superior fluency in various languages?
>
> I've googled around for this and didn't find it, so I hope somebody
> else knows more than I do.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Annie Fisher
>
>
> ________________________
>
> Anne O. Fisher
> Visiting Assistant Professor and Chair
> Russian Studies
> The College of Wooster
> afisher at wooster.edu
> 330-263-2166
> ________________________
>
> "The academy responds to the demands of disciplines and faculty. It
> is a culture that cherishes independence and freedom. And it is a
> culture seriously out of touch with much of America." - from an op-ed
> piece on higher education in the New York TImes, October 11, 2006
>
>
>
>
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From brifkin at TEMPLE.EDU  Sun Jan 14 02:26:03 2007
From: brifkin at TEMPLE.EDU (Benjamin Rifkin)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 21:26:03 -0500
Subject: Blogs and Podcasts from Russia
Message-ID: <SAT.13.JAN.2007.212603.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear SEELANGers:

Does anyone know of an index of blogs and/or an index of podcasts in Russian?  I was thinking it would be nice to incorporate some authentic texts from these sources in my Russian course.

Thanks for any tips.

With best regards to all for the old new year,

BR

*******
Benjamin Rifkin
Professor of Russian and
Vice Dean for Undergraduate Affairs
College of Liberal Arts, Temple University
1206 Anderson Hall, 1114 W. Berks St.
Philadelphia, PA 19122 USA
voice (215) 204 1816
fax (215) 204 3731
brifkin at temple.edu
www.temple.edu/fgis/rifkin

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From brifkin at TEMPLE.EDU  Sun Jan 14 02:39:39 2007
From: brifkin at TEMPLE.EDU (Benjamin Rifkin)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 21:39:39 -0500
Subject: Hours to Proficiency
Message-ID: <SAT.13.JAN.2007.213939.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear SEELANGers:

The data reported by Omaggio-Hadley are confirmed in my research, specifically for Russian, reported in the Modern Language Journal in 2005:

"A Ceiling Effect in Traditional Classroom Foreign Language Instruction:  Data from Russian."  Modern Language Journal 89.1 (2005):  3-18.

Best regards to all,

BR

*******
Benjamin Rifkin
Professor of Russian and
Vice Dean for Undergraduate Affairs
College of Liberal Arts, Temple University
1206 Anderson Hall, 1114 W. Berks St.
Philadelphia, PA 19122 USA
voice (215) 204 1816
fax (215) 204 3731
brifkin at temple.edu
www.temple.edu/fgis/rifkin

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From aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU  Sun Jan 14 02:57:53 2007
From: aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU (Alina Israeli)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 21:57:53 -0500
Subject: Blogs and Podcasts from Russia
In-Reply-To: <A69926B11B00DF40B222E21CFD9979A9013FEFD7@exchange.temple>
Message-ID: <SAT.13.JAN.2007.215753.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

http://blogs.yandex.ru/

On Jan 13, 2007, at 9:26 PM, Benjamin Rifkin wrote:

> Dear SEELANGers:
>
> Does anyone know of an index of blogs and/or an index of podcasts  
> in Russian?  I was thinking it would be nice to incorporate some  
> authentic texts from these sources in my Russian course.
>
> Thanks for any tips.
>
> With best regards to all for the old new year,
>
> BR
>
> *******
> Benjamin Rifkin
> Professor of Russian and
> Vice Dean for Undergraduate Affairs
> College of Liberal Arts, Temple University
> 1206 Anderson Hall, 1114 W. Berks St.
> Philadelphia, PA 19122 USA
> voice (215) 204 1816
> fax (215) 204 3731
> brifkin at temple.edu
> www.temple.edu/fgis/rifkin
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
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LFS, American University
4400 Massachusetts Ave., NW
Washington DC. 20016
(202) 885-2387 	
fax (202) 885-1076
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From jack.franke at GMAIL.COM  Sun Jan 14 06:40:09 2007
From: jack.franke at GMAIL.COM (Jack Franke)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 22:40:09 -0800
Subject: Blogs and Podcasts from Russia
In-Reply-To: <497137E6-9BE5-4081-9DD2-DE5AB8139258@american.edu>
Message-ID: <SAT.13.JAN.2007.224009.0800.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

http://www.rpod.ru/  has a wonderful index for podcasts in Russian.

Best,

Jack

*********************************
Jack Franke, Ph.D., Professor of Russian
Coordinator, Russian Department B
European and Latin American School
Defense Language Institute Foreign Language Center
Monterey, CA 93944



On 1/13/07, Alina Israeli <aisrael at american.edu> wrote:
>
> http://blogs.yandex.ru/
>
> On Jan 13, 2007, at 9:26 PM, Benjamin Rifkin wrote:
>
> > Dear SEELANGers:
> >
> > Does anyone know of an index of blogs and/or an index of podcasts
> > in Russian?  I was thinking it would be nice to incorporate some
> > authentic texts from these sources in my Russian course.
> >
> > Thanks for any tips.
> >
> > With best regards to all for the old new year,
> >
> > BR
> >
> > *******
> > Benjamin Rifkin
> > Professor of Russian and
> > Vice Dean for Undergraduate Affairs
> > College of Liberal Arts, Temple University
> > 1206 Anderson Hall, 1114 W. Berks St.
> > Philadelphia, PA 19122 USA
> > voice (215) 204 1816
> > fax (215) 204 3731
> > brifkin at temple.edu
> > www.temple.edu/fgis/rifkin
>

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From jennifercarr at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK  Sun Jan 14 09:30:18 2007
From: jennifercarr at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Jenny Carr)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 09:30:18 -0000
Subject: hours-to-proficiency measure?
Message-ID: <SUN.14.JAN.2007.093018.0000.JENNIFERCARR@BLUEYONDER.CO.UK>

There is an interesting table on
http://www-personal.umich.edu/%7Ewbaxter/howhard.html
Jenny Carr

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Anne Fisher" <afisher at WOOSTER.EDU>
To: <SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 12:32 AM
Subject: [SEELANGS] hours-to-proficiency measure?


> Hello Seelangers,
>
> Where can I find a table of creditable (ACTFL, DLI, etc.) standards
> estimating the number of hours of instruction required to achieve
> superior fluency in various languages?
>
> I've googled around for this and didn't find it, so I hope somebody
> else knows more than I do.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Annie Fisher
>
>
> ________________________
>
> Anne O. Fisher
> Visiting Assistant Professor and Chair
> Russian Studies
> The College of Wooster
> afisher at wooster.edu
> 330-263-2166
> ________________________
>
> "The academy responds to the demands of disciplines and faculty. It
> is a culture that cherishes independence and freedom. And it is a
> culture seriously out of touch with much of America." - from an op-ed
> piece on higher education in the New York TImes, October 11, 2006
>
>
>
>
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From tbuzina at YANDEX.RU  Sun Jan 14 09:45:27 2007
From: tbuzina at YANDEX.RU (Tatyana Buzina)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 12:45:27 +0300
Subject: Russian Cellphone jargon
In-Reply-To: <000001c73747$3d4b4fe0$c769fea9@VERA80GB>
Message-ID: <SUN.14.JAN.2007.124527.0300.>

In my experience, we don't. If you wish to save money you just text which is cheaper. There's a clear understanding that if you choose to call that's your money you're kissing good-bye to. That's why, before they introduced the "calling party pays" scheme last July, it was good manners not to call cell phones from landline phones because that call was free for the caller but cost money to the cell phone owner. 
There's the expression though, 'sbrosit' zvonok.' It means that you call somebody, and that somebody promptly hangs up on you, or 'sbrasyvaet vash zvonok.' It means they cannot talk at the moment, and they usually call you back when they can talk. It's not considered rude as it would've been on a landline, it just means you called them at a wrong moment. 
Tatyana

>Dear Listers,
>How do you say in Russian "give me a missed call".
>In other words, Mr A. rings Mr B. on the cellphone,
>but Mr. B. does not answer, in order to save money
>for Mr. A.  However, Mr B. can see that Mr A. is trying to
>contact him, and (graciously) returns the call at his own
>expense.
>
>Cellphone > in other countries: Mobile-, Hand- or Karmanyi
>telefon.
>
>I am asking on behalf of a South African student who wants
>to tell his
>Russian pals to give him a 'missed call'.
>
>Thanks,
>Dear Listers,
>How do you say in Russian "give me a missed call".
>In other words, Mr A. rings Mr B. on the cellphone,
>but Mr. B. does not answered, in order to save money
>for Mr. A.  However, Mr B. can see that Mr A. is trying to
>contact him, and (graciously) returns the call at his own
>expense.
>
>Cellphone > in other countries: Mobile-, Hand- or Karmanyi
>telefon.
>
>I am asking on behalf of a South African student who wants
>to tell his
>Russian pals to give him a 'missed call'.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Vera Beljakova
>Johannesburg
>Vera Beljakova
>Johannesburg
>
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From karlahuebner at COMPUSERVE.COM  Sun Jan 14 16:31:16 2007
From: karlahuebner at COMPUSERVE.COM (Karla Huebner)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 17:31:16 +0100
Subject: AAASS 2007
In-Reply-To: <A764C10C-6397-4527-A8E7-273A9429AAEF@mimectl>
Message-ID: <SUN.14.JAN.2007.173116.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Oh. No confirmation email has arrived. Not good.

Karla

At 09:33 PM 1/13/2007, you wrote:
>I don't remember what the final page was like, but, after submitting 
>a panel on-line, I received a confirmation e-mail.  --Eric
>
>
>
>From: Karla Huebner
>Sent: Fri 1/12/2007 6:19 PM
>To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
>Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] AAASS 2007
>
>
>Just a query before it's too late: I just tried to post a panel 
>proposal online, but was interrupted by the phone a few times in the 
>process. When I hit submit, the screen reverted to the member login. 
>Is this normal or did I time out and need to try again? I haven't 
>used AAASS's online proposal system before.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Karla Huebner
>University of Pittsburgh

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From emoussin at INDIANA.EDU  Mon Jan 15 11:23:18 2007
From: emoussin at INDIANA.EDU (Elizaveta Moussinova)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 06:23:18 -0500
Subject: Russian Cellphone jargon
In-Reply-To: <000001c73747$3d4b4fe0$c769fea9@VERA80GB>
Message-ID: <MON.15.JAN.2007.062318.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I can't think of any word apart from "perezvonit". But usually the 
caller pays. I don't know all the details, but the Russian mentality 
wouldn't like it, I suppose. It would be considered cheap to call your 
friends and expect them to call you back. It's like you save on them.

If I'm short of money, I sms. The MTS, one of the Russian mobile 
companies, has an option to send an sms from their website 
(http://sms.mts.ru/). To send an sms abroad from Russia might be more 
expensive than to send it to a Russian phone, but cheaper than to call 
abroad.

> Cellphone > in other countries: Mobile-, Hand- or Karmanyi
> telefon.

Here it's called "mobilniy telefon", "mobilnik", "mobila". An sms 
message is an "sms-ka". "Otpravit' sms / sms-ku".

Liz


Quoting Vera Beljakova <atacama at GLOBAL.CO.ZA>:

> Dear Listers,
> How do you say in Russian "give me a missed call".
> In other words, Mr A. rings Mr B. on the cellphone,
> but Mr. B. does not answer, in order to save money
> for Mr. A.  However, Mr B. can see that Mr A. is trying to
> contact him, and (graciously) returns the call at his own
> expense.
>
> Cellphone > in other countries: Mobile-, Hand- or Karmanyi
> telefon.
>
> I am asking on behalf of a South African student who wants
> to tell his
> Russian pals to give him a 'missed call'.
>
> Thanks,
> Dear Listers,
> How do you say in Russian "give me a missed call".
> In other words, Mr A. rings Mr B. on the cellphone,
> but Mr. B. does not answered, in order to save money
> for Mr. A.  However, Mr B. can see that Mr A. is trying to
> contact him, and (graciously) returns the call at his own
> expense.
>
> Cellphone > in other countries: Mobile-, Hand- or Karmanyi
> telefon.
>
> I am asking on behalf of a South African student who wants
> to tell his
> Russian pals to give him a 'missed call'.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Vera Beljakova
> Johannesburg
> Vera Beljakova
> Johannesburg
>
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From paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM  Mon Jan 15 11:44:54 2007
From: paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM (Paul B. Gallagher)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 06:44:54 -0500
Subject: Russian Cellphone jargon
In-Reply-To: <20070115062318.44yepsqk1s00wo4g@webmail.iu.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.15.JAN.2007.064454.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Elizaveta Moussinova wrote:

> ... An sms message is an "sms-ka". "Otpravit' sms / sms-ku".

Three syllables, not four, right? «Эсмэска», а не «Эсэмэска»?

But Google has 9,400 hits for the latter and only 32 for the former...

-- 
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--
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From emoussin at INDIANA.EDU  Mon Jan 15 12:00:23 2007
From: emoussin at INDIANA.EDU (Elizaveta Moussinova)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 07:00:23 -0500
Subject: Russian Cellphone jargon
In-Reply-To: <45AB6936.5000108@pbg-translations.com>
Message-ID: <MON.15.JAN.2007.070023.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

4 syllables: es-em-es-ka (ýñ-ýì-ýñ-êà)! :)
There is a verb, too: esemesit' / SMSit' (ÑÌÑèòü). "îòýñåìåñèòü âñåì äðóçüÿì".

Google has 7 180 000 for CMC (written in Cyrillic).

Liz



Quoting "Paul B. Gallagher" <paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM>:

> Elizaveta Moussinova wrote:
>
>> ... An sms message is an "sms-ka". "Otpravit' sms / sms-ku".
>
> Three syllables, not four, right? «???????», ? ?? «????????»?
>
> But Google has 9,400 hits for the latter and only 32 for the former...
>
> --
> War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
> --
> Paul B. Gallagher
> pbg translations, inc.
> "Russian Translations That Read Like Originals"
> http://pbg-translations.com
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From aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU  Mon Jan 15 15:10:33 2007
From: aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU (Alina Israeli)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 10:10:33 -0500
Subject: Russian Cellphone jargon
In-Reply-To: <20070115062318.44yepsqk1s00wo4g@webmail.iu.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.15.JAN.2007.101033.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

> Here it's called "mobilniy telefon", "mobilnik", "mobila". An sms  
> message is an "sms-ka". "Otpravit' sms / sms-ku".
>

Also "truba" and "trubka".

Some mobile humor: http://www.polyfonia.com.ru/humor.html



Alina Israeli
LFS, American University
4400 Massachusetts Ave., NW
Washington DC. 20016
(202) 885-2387 	
fax (202) 885-1076
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From jwilson at ALINGA.COM  Mon Jan 15 15:37:34 2007
From: jwilson at ALINGA.COM (Josh Wilson)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:37:34 +0300
Subject: Russian Cellphone jargon
In-Reply-To: <20070115070023.kvx2sz1blcsw04gw@webmail.iu.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.15.JAN.2007.183734.0300.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I have heard this often around Moscow and concur - I've always heard it as
four syllables.  

I have also had it explained to me at least once that "sms-ka" is a bit
"provincial" - that the proper phrasing is "otprivt' sms" and that "sms"
should never decline "because it is not Russian."  (This from a Russian grad
student studying linguistics - so could just be she is soapboxing the issue)

JW

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu] On Behalf Of Elizaveta Moussinova
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 3:00 PM
To: SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Russian Cellphone jargon

4 syllables: es-em-es-ka (ýñ-ýì-ýñ-êà)! :)
There is a verb, too: esemesit' / SMSit' (ÑÌÑèòü). "îòýñåìåñèòü âñåì
äðóçüÿì".

Google has 7 180 000 for CMC (written in Cyrillic).

Liz



Quoting "Paul B. Gallagher" <paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM>:

> Elizaveta Moussinova wrote:
>
>> ... An sms message is an "sms-ka". "Otpravit' sms / sms-ku".
>
> Three syllables, not four, right? «???????», ? ?? «????????»?
>
> But Google has 9,400 hits for the latter and only 32 for the former...
>
> --
> War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
> --
> Paul B. Gallagher
> pbg translations, inc.
> "Russian Translations That Read Like Originals"
> http://pbg-translations.com
>
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From Alexandra.Smith at ED.AC.UK  Mon Jan 15 17:08:37 2007
From: Alexandra.Smith at ED.AC.UK (Alexandra Smith)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:08:37 +0000
Subject: 3rd IATIS CONFERENCE - MELBOURNE 2009
In-Reply-To: <200701151537.l0FFbad4017513@alinga.com>
Message-ID: <MON.15.JAN.2007.170837.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

  3rd IATIS CONFERENCE - MELBOURNE 2009
International Association of Translation and Intercultural Studies (IATIS)
(http://www.iatis.org) <http://www.iatis.org/>

CONFERENCE ANNOUNCEMENT


  IATIS is delighted to announce that the 3rd Conference of the International
Association for Translation and Intercultural Studies will be hosted by the
School of Languages, Cultures and Linguistics at Monash University,
Melbourne, Australia, from July 8th to 10th, 2009.

The Conference theme will be Mediation and Conflict: Translation and Culture
in a Global Context and a first call for papers and panel proposals will be
issued in 2007.

The Local Organizing Committee, chaired by Rita Wilson and Brigid Maher of
the Monash Translation and Interpreting Studies Programme, has plans for an
exciting academic and social programme, and the conference will be preceded
on July 7th by a workshop on broadcasting in a multilingual and
multiplatform digital environment, run by SBS, Australia's multicultural and
multilingual public broadcaster.

Prospective participants may also be interested to know that IPrA's 11th
International Pragmatics Conference will take place in Melbourne from July
12th to 17th, 2009, making 'back-to-back' conference attendance feasible for
many.

Updates on the conference will be posted on the IATIS website www.iatis.org
<http://www.iatis.org/> .

IATIS
iatis at iatis.org



=============================================
Alexandra Smith (PhD, University of London)
Lecturer in Russian
School of European Languages and Cultures
The University of Edinburgh
David Hume Tower
George Square
Edinburgh EX8 9JX
UK

tel. +44-(0)131-511381
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From aaanem at WM.EDU  Mon Jan 15 17:22:04 2007
From: aaanem at WM.EDU (Tony Anemone)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 12:22:04 -0500
Subject: Translation question
Message-ID: <MON.15.JAN.2007.122204.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Aleksei Balabanov's new film, presently in production, is called  
GRUZ-200 (Official English translation is CARGO 200).   This is  
apparently a bureaucratic phrase describing the shipment home of  
military coffins of soldiers killed in action.   The movie is set  
during the late "zastoi" and concerns a soldier killed in  
Afghanistan.  I'm hoping that someone on the list will be able to  
tell me more about this term:  is it a reference to the weight of the  
coffin and body? 200 kg seems heavy, but Balabanov speaks of "zinc"  
coffins in an on-line interview. . .  Does (did?) the Russian army  
commonly use zinc in coffins? is the term used and understood today?

Thanks in advance,

Tony




Tony Anemone
Visiting Associate Professor of Humanities and Russian
University Humanities Program
The New School
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From goscilo+ at PITT.EDU  Mon Jan 15 17:29:04 2007
From: goscilo+ at PITT.EDU (goscilo)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 12:29:04 -0500
Subject: Translation question
In-Reply-To: <1ECFEF08-FC09-4052-9B40-65C3FDE17C79@wm.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.15.JAN.2007.122904.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Tony,

Yes, bodies WERE sent back in zinc coffins.  See Svetlana Aleksievich's 
ZINKY BOYS, translated into Eng. approx. 12 years ago.  A good source for 
death in the Afghan war.

Helena

--On Monday, January 15, 2007 12:22 PM -0500 Tony Anemone <aaanem at WM.EDU> 
wrote:r

> Aleksei Balabanov's new film, presently in production, is called
> GRUZ-200 (Official English translation is CARGO 200).   This is
> apparently a bureaucratic phrase describing the shipment home of
> military coffins of soldiers killed in action.   The movie is set  during
> the late "zastoi" and concerns a soldier killed in  Afghanistan.  I'm
> hoping that someone on the list will be able to  tell me more about this
> term:  is it a reference to the weight of the  coffin and body? 200 kg
> seems heavy, but Balabanov speaks of "zinc"  coffins in an on-line
> interview. . .  Does (did?) the Russian army  commonly use zinc in
> coffins? is the term used and understood today?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Tony
>
>
>
>
> Tony Anemone
> Visiting Associate Professor of Humanities and Russian
> University Humanities Program
> The New School
> anemonea at newschool.edu
> 757-870-8083
>
>
>
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From Philippe.FRISON at COE.INT  Mon Jan 15 17:51:51 2007
From: Philippe.FRISON at COE.INT (FRISON Philippe)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:51:51 +0100
Subject: RE�: [SEELANGS] Gruz-200
Message-ID: <MON.15.JAN.2007.185151.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

During the oviet-Afghan war, Gruz-200 was the code name for coffins supposed to contain 200 cm corpses...
 
As for zinc people, it is an allusion to Bielorussian writer Svetlana Alexievitch's "ZInkovye mal'chiki" book on returnees from Afghanistan.
 
Best regards
 
Philippe Frison
(Strasbourg - France)

________________________________

De: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list de la part de Tony Anemone
Date: lun. 15/01/2007 18:22
À: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Objet : [SEELANGS] Translation question



Aleksei Balabanov's new film, presently in production, is called 
GRUZ-200 (Official English translation is CARGO 200).   This is 
apparently a bureaucratic phrase describing the shipment home of 
military coffins of soldiers killed in action.   The movie is set 
during the late "zastoi" and concerns a soldier killed in 
Afghanistan.  I'm hoping that someone on the list will be able to 
tell me more about this term:  is it a reference to the weight of the 
coffin and body? 200 kg seems heavy, but Balabanov speaks of "zinc" 
coffins in an on-line interview. . .  Does (did?) the Russian army 
commonly use zinc in coffins? is the term used and understood today?

Thanks in advance,

Tony




Tony Anemone
Visiting Associate Professor of Humanities and Russian
University Humanities Program
The New School
anemonea at newschool.edu
757-870-8083




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From jwilson at ALINGA.COM  Mon Jan 15 18:37:11 2007
From: jwilson at ALINGA.COM (Josh Wilson)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 21:37:11 +0300
Subject: hours-to-proficiency measure?
Message-ID: <MON.15.JAN.2007.213711.0300.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

http://www.sras.org/news.phtml?m=502

 

That same table, with other related information, (and lots of other goodies)
can be found at the link above.  

 

JW 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
[mailto:SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu] On Behalf Of Jenny Carr

Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 12:30 PM

To: SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu

Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] hours-to-proficiency measure?

 

There is an interesting table on

http://www-personal.umich.edu/%7Ewbaxter/howhard.html

Jenny Carr

 

 

Josh Wilson

Asst. Director

The School of Russian and Asian Studies

Editor-in-Chief

Vestnik, The Journal of Russian and Asian Studies

www.sras.org

jwilson at sras.org

 


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From condee at PITT.EDU  Mon Jan 15 18:40:28 2007
From: condee at PITT.EDU (N. Condee)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 13:40:28 -0500
Subject: Krakow furnished flat (Feb through June)?
Message-ID: <MON.15.JAN.2007.134028.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

A colleague of mine is looking for a centrally located, furnished one- or
two- bedroom apartment in Krakow to rent from the end of January (or
beginning of February) to the end of June. The apartment would ideally be
internet-ready. Email for contact:  <mailto:petrepet at gmail.com>
petrepet at gmail.com.
 

Prof. N. Condee

Dept. of Slavic Languages and Literatures

1417 CL

University of Pittsburgh

Pittsburgh, PA 15260

412-624-5906

 

 

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From paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM  Mon Jan 15 18:44:46 2007
From: paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM (Paul B. Gallagher)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 13:44:46 -0500
Subject: Translation question
In-Reply-To: <1ECFEF08-FC09-4052-9B40-65C3FDE17C79@wm.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.15.JAN.2007.134446.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Tony Anemone wrote:

> Aleksei Balabanov's new film, presently in production, is called 
> GRUZ-200 (Official English translation is CARGO 200). This is 
> apparently a bureaucratic phrase describing the shipment home of 
> military coffins of soldiers killed in action. The movie is set 
> during the late "zastoi" and concerns a soldier killed in
> Afghanistan. I'm hoping that someone on the list will be able to tell
> me more about this term: is it a reference to the weight of the
> coffin and body? 200 kg seems heavy, but Balabanov speaks of "zinc"
> coffins in an on-line interview. . . Does (did?) the Russian army
> commonly use zinc in coffins? is the term used and understood today?

Does he speak of "цинковые" or "оцинкованные"? The former would be 
"zinc," the latter "galvanized." And of course the latter would make 
much more sense -- it's a common treatment applied to steel to prevent 
corrosion. A solid zinc coffin would be prohibitively expensive, but the 
thin film of zinc applied in galvanizing is not, and the process is well 
understood and widely available.

This is a fairly common error among nontechnical translators.

-- 
War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
--
Paul B. Gallagher
pbg translations, inc.
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From aaanem at WM.EDU  Mon Jan 15 19:24:23 2007
From: aaanem at WM.EDU (Tony Anemone)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 14:24:23 -0500
Subject: Translation question
Message-ID: <MON.15.JAN.2007.142423.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Thanks to Helene, Philippe and Inessa for the information about zinc  
coffins and code words for coffin transport.  What an amazing  
resource this list can be!

Tony



De: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list de la part  
de Tony Anemone
Date: lun. 15/01/2007 18:22
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Aleksei Balabanov's new film, presently in production, is called
GRUZ-200 (Official English translation is CARGO 200).   This is
apparently a bureaucratic phrase describing the shipment home of
military coffins of soldiers killed in action.   The movie is set
during the late "zastoi" and concerns a soldier killed in
Afghanistan.  I'm hoping that someone on the list will be able to
tell me more about this term:  is it a reference to the weight of the
coffin and body? 200 kg seems heavy, but Balabanov speaks of "zinc"
coffins in an on-line interview. . .  Does (did?) the Russian army
commonly use zinc in coffins? is the term used and understood today?

Thanks in advance,

Tony





Tony Anemone
Visiting Associate Professor of Humanities and Russian
University Humanities Program
The New School
anemonea at newschool.edu
757-870-8083




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From tsergay at COLUMBUS.RR.COM  Mon Jan 15 20:40:58 2007
From: tsergay at COLUMBUS.RR.COM (Timothy D. Sergay)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:40:58 -0500
Subject: Gruz-200 i eshche Gruz-300 i mozhet byt' i Gruz-400
Message-ID: <MON.15.JAN.2007.154058.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

There is a great deal of confirmation on the Russian web that "gruz 200" is 
military code or jargon for transport of KIAs (killed in action), but also 
that "gruz 300" refers to transport of wounded. So I don't see a very clear 
correlation between the numbers (200, 300) and either centimeters or 
kilograms. At least one site mentions "gruz 400" but without a 
"translation."

References to zinc are not limited to particular books or works: it's 
understood that KIAs from the Afghan war returned in zinc coffins. E.g., the 
song "Afganistan" by Katia Yarovaia about new recruits to that war: "Idut 
obratno v tsinkovykh grobakh."

Best to all,

Tim Sergay

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "FRISON Philippe" <Philippe.FRISON at COE.INT>
To: <SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 12:51 PM
Subject: [SEELANGS] RE : [SEELANGS] Gruz-200


During the oviet-Afghan war, Gruz-200 was the code name for coffins supposed 
to contain 200 cm corpses...

As for zinc people, it is an allusion to Bielorussian writer Svetlana 
Alexievitch's "ZInkovye mal'chiki" book on returnees from Afghanistan.

Best regards

Philippe Frison
(Strasbourg - France)

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From jan.fellerer at WOLFSON.OXFORD.AC.UK  Tue Jan 16 00:30:42 2007
From: jan.fellerer at WOLFSON.OXFORD.AC.UK (Jan Fellerer)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 00:30:42 +0000
Subject: Junior Research Fellowships - Wolfson College, Oxford, UK
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From aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU  Tue Jan 16 00:59:52 2007
From: aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU (Alina Israeli)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 19:59:52 -0500
Subject: Gruz-200 i eshche Gruz-300 i mozhet byt' i Gruz-400
In-Reply-To: <00de01c738e5$7636af30$0302a8c0@blackie>
Message-ID: <MON.15.JAN.2007.195952.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Even prior to the war abroad (and during WWII Soviet soldiers were  
buried wherever they died, so no coffins were involved), vernut'sja v  
cinkovom grobu, or privezli v cinkovom grobu meant that the body was  
in such a state that the coffin was not to be opened (i.e. so that  
the relatives would not see the disfiguration).

Alina Israeli
LFS, American University
4400 Massachusetts Ave., NW
Washington DC. 20016
(202) 885-2387 	
fax (202) 885-1076
aisrael at american.edu




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From J.Dunn at SLAVONIC.ARTS.GLA.AC.UK  Tue Jan 16 09:49:37 2007
From: J.Dunn at SLAVONIC.ARTS.GLA.AC.UK (John Dunn)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:49:37 +0100
Subject: New rules for foreign nationals
Message-ID: <TUE.16.JAN.2007.104937.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

New rules concerning the status of foreign nationals in Russia have just come into force.  You can find details at:

http://www.newsru.com/russia/15jan2007/fms.html

They mostly affect those seeking work, but there does seem to be some general tidying-up and a move to come closer into line with what happens elsewhere in Europe.  Or is that wishful thinking?

John Dunn.


John Dunn
Honorary Research Fellow, SMLC (Slavonic Studies)
University of Glasgow, Scotland

Address:
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40137 Bologna
Italy
Tel.: +39 051/1889 8661
e-mail: J.Dunn at slavonic.arts.gla.ac.uk
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From emoussin at INDIANA.EDU  Tue Jan 16 09:54:35 2007
From: emoussin at INDIANA.EDU (Elizaveta Moussinova)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 04:54:35 -0500
Subject: Russian Cellphone jargon
In-Reply-To: <200701151537.l0FFbad4017513@alinga.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.16.JAN.2007.045435.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Quoting Josh Wilson <jwilson at ALINGA.COM>:

>
> I have also had it explained to me at least once that "sms-ka" is a bit
> "provincial" - that the proper phrasing is "otprivt' sms" and that "sms"
> should never decline "because it is not Russian."  (This from a Russian grad
> student studying linguistics - so could just be she is soapboxing the issue)

I actually agree with your friend but didn't know how to explain it 
without being accused of snobbism. :)) "Sms-ka" does sound provincial 
just like "psikhushka" (psikhiatricheskaia bol'nitsa), "fotka", 
"stiralka" (referring to a washing machine or an eraser. Really 
horrible...), etc.

Liz


>> -----Original Message-----
> From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
> [mailto:SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu] On Behalf Of Elizaveta Moussinova
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 3:00 PM
> To: SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu
> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Russian Cellphone jargon
>
> 4 syllables: es-em-es-ka (ýñ-ýì-ýñ-êà)! :)
> There is a verb, too: esemesit' / SMSit' (ÑÌÑèòü). "îòýñåìåñèòü âñåì
> äðóçüÿì".
>
> Google has 7 180 000 for CMC (written in Cyrillic).
>
> Liz
>
>
>
> Quoting "Paul B. Gallagher" <paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM>:
>
>> Elizaveta Moussinova wrote:
>>
>>> ... An sms message is an "sms-ka". "Otpravit' sms / sms-ku".
>>
>> Three syllables, not four, right? «???????», ? ?? «????????»?
>>
>> But Google has 9,400 hits for the latter and only 32 for the former...
>>
>> --
>> War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
>> --
>> Paul B. Gallagher
>> pbg translations, inc.
>> "Russian Translations That Read Like Originals"
>> http://pbg-translations.com
>>
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From dieter.debruyn at UGENT.BE  Tue Jan 16 10:01:52 2007
From: dieter.debruyn at UGENT.BE (=?windows-1252?Q?Dieter_De_Bruyn?=)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 05:01:52 -0500
Subject: Publishing houses and Slavic studies
Message-ID: <TUE.16.JAN.2007.050152.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Seelangers,

I was wondering if there exists a good list of publishing houses 
(worldwide) which are specialized in (all kinds of) Slavic studies. Does 
any of you have a clue?

Thanks in advance!
Dieter De Bruyn
Ghent University
Belgium
dieter.debruyn at ugent.be

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From suzanne.wickum at EU.DODEA.EDU  Tue Jan 16 10:05:24 2007
From: suzanne.wickum at EU.DODEA.EDU (=?windows-1252?Q?Suzanne_Wickum?=)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 05:05:24 -0500
Subject: Polish Language courses online
Message-ID: <TUE.16.JAN.2007.050524.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Hello,
Does anyone know of a college or university who offers Polish credit 
courses online?
Thanks

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From emoussin at INDIANA.EDU  Tue Jan 16 10:20:34 2007
From: emoussin at INDIANA.EDU (Elizaveta Moussinova)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 05:20:34 -0500
Subject: New rules for foreign nationals
In-Reply-To: <1168940977.4003d31cJ.Dunn@slavonic.arts.gla.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <TUE.16.JAN.2007.052034.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Here are other sources:
http://www.fmsmoscow.ru/news/news_01.html  It explains the details: 
what codes/ laws were changed and other changes.

Also for work visas: Regulation No. 681 dated 15 November 2006 "On the 
Procedure of Issuing Documents Permitting Foreign Employees to 
Temporarily Carry Out Work in the Russian Federation", which came into 
force on 15 January 2007.

Liz

Quoting John Dunn <J.Dunn at SLAVONIC.ARTS.GLA.AC.UK>:

> New rules concerning the status of foreign nationals in Russia have
> just come into force.  You can find details at:
>
> http://www.newsru.com/russia/15jan2007/fms.html
>
> They mostly affect those seeking work, but there does seem to be some
> general tidying-up and a move to come closer into line with what
> happens elsewhere in Europe.  Or is that wishful thinking?
>
> John Dunn.
>
>
> John Dunn
> Honorary Research Fellow, SMLC (Slavonic Studies)
> University of Glasgow, Scotland
>
> Address:
> Via Carolina Coronedi Berti 6
> 40137 Bologna
> Italy
> Tel.: +39 051/1889 8661
> e-mail: J.Dunn at slavonic.arts.gla.ac.uk
> johnanthony.dunn at fastwebnet.it
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From paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM  Tue Jan 16 10:21:35 2007
From: paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM (Paul B. Gallagher)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 05:21:35 -0500
Subject: Russian Cellphone jargon
In-Reply-To: <200701151537.l0FFbad4017513@alinga.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.16.JAN.2007.052135.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Josh Wilson wrote:

> I have heard this often around Moscow and concur - I've always heard it as
> four syllables.  

OK, thanks to you and Liz.

-- 
War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
--
Paul B. Gallagher
pbg translations, inc.
"Russian Translations That Read Like Originals"
http://pbg-translations.com

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From g_cad-zeichenservice at GMX.DE  Tue Jan 16 10:35:08 2007
From: g_cad-zeichenservice at GMX.DE (Andreas Giebelhaus)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:35:08 +0100
Subject: Russian Cellphone jargon
In-Reply-To: <20070116045435.t5mqysun6048s8k4@webmail.iu.edu>
Message-ID: <TUE.16.JAN.2007.113508.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

>I actually agree with your friend but didn't know how to explain it
>without being accused of snobbism. :)) "Sms-ka" does sound provincial
>just like "psikhushka" (psikhiatricheskaia bol'nitsa), "fotka",
>"stiralka" (referring to a washing machine or an eraser. Really
>horrible...), etc.

Hi All,

AFAIK  eraser is "stjorka", not "stiralka"

>"Sms-ka" does sound provincial just like "psikhushka" (psikhiatricheskaia bol'nitsa),

o takoj assoziazii pervyj raz slyshu ....


Andreas

German-Russian
www.giebelhaus-uebersetzungen.de


__________________________________________________________________________________
Am 16.01.07 10:54:35 schrieb Elizaveta Moussinova <emoussin at INDIANA.EDU>:

>Quoting Josh Wilson <jwilson at ALINGA.COM>:
>
>>
>> I have also had it explained to me at least once that "sms-ka" is a bit
>> "provincial" - that the proper phrasing is "otprivt' sms" and that "sms"
>> should never decline "because it is not Russian."  (This from a Russian grad
>> student studying linguistics - so could just be she is soapboxing the issue)
>
>I actually agree with your friend but didn't know how to explain it
>without being accused of snobbism. :)) "Sms-ka" does sound provincial
>just like "psikhushka" (psikhiatricheskaia bol'nitsa), "fotka",
>"stiralka" (referring to a washing machine or an eraser. Really
>horrible...), etc.
>
>Liz

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From jwilson at ALINGA.COM  Tue Jan 16 11:38:32 2007
From: jwilson at ALINGA.COM (Josh Wilson)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 14:38:32 +0300
Subject: Russian Cellphone jargon
In-Reply-To: <A7EE2024-BB3E-43CD-B22B-7A23750EB399@american.edu>
Message-ID: <TUE.16.JAN.2007.143832.0300.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I don't believe anyone has mentioned another variant: sotovyi telefon
(сотовый телефон). 

Landline is "gorodskoi telefon."

Truba is interesting because it can be applied to a sotovyi telefon or to
the handset of a gorodskoi telefon


-----Original Message-----
From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
[mailto:SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu] On Behalf Of Alina Israeli
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 6:11 PM
To: SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Russian Cellphone jargon

> Here it's called "mobilniy telefon", "mobilnik", "mobila". An sms  
> message is an "sms-ka". "Otpravit' sms / sms-ku".
>

Also "truba" and "trubka".

Some mobile humor: http://www.polyfonia.com.ru/humor.html



Alina Israeli
LFS, American University
4400 Massachusetts Ave., NW
Washington DC. 20016
(202) 885-2387 	
fax (202) 885-1076
aisrael at american.edu




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From tbuzina at YANDEX.RU  Tue Jan 16 11:41:23 2007
From: tbuzina at YANDEX.RU (Tatyana Buzina)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 14:41:23 +0300
Subject: Russian Cellphone jargon
In-Reply-To: <20070116045435.t5mqysun6048s8k4@webmail.iu.edu>
Message-ID: <TUE.16.JAN.2007.144123.0300.>

"Fotka" is indeed horrible, and the verb "sforkat'" is even worse. Makes me want to scream and pounce on whoever says that :). However, "sms-ka" is widely used by everybody, including university professors, and, most importantly, some rather snobbish people here, and ditto "psikhushka." This is overly optimistic to expect people to pronounce "psikhiatricheskaia bol'nista" each time they want to refer to such an institution. It's colloquial and slightly sloppy, if I may put it like that, but not expressly provincial. 
"Skin'te/sbros'te mne vash nomer sms-koi." 
While I am at it, there's also "sterka" for eraser. That one was very popular when I was at school, and is still running strong. And I've never heard stiralka in either sense. Interesting. I'll ask my students and colleagues about it. 

>Quoting Josh Wilson <jwilson at ALINGA.COM>:
>
>>
>> I have also had it explained to me at least once that "sms-ka" is a bit
>> "provincial" - that the proper phrasing is "otprivt' sms" and that "sms"
>> should never decline "because it is not Russian."  (This from a Russian grad
>> student studying linguistics - so could just be she is soapboxing the issue)
>
>I actually agree with your friend but didn't know how to explain it 
>without being accused of snobbism. :)) "Sms-ka" does sound provincial 
>just like "psikhushka" (psikhiatricheskaia bol'nitsa), "fotka", 
>"stiralka" (referring to a washing machine or an eraser. Really 
>horrible...), etc.
>
>Liz
>
>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
>> [mailto:SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu] On Behalf Of Elizaveta Moussinova
>> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 3:00 PM
>> To: SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu
>> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Russian Cellphone jargon
>>
>> 4 syllables: es-em-es-ka (эс-эм-эс-ка)! :)
>> There is a verb, too: esemesit' / SMSit' (СМСить). "отэсемесить всем
>> друзьям".
>>
>> Google has 7 180 000 for CMC (written in Cyrillic).
>>
>> Liz
>>
>>
>>
>> Quoting "Paul B. Gallagher" <paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM>:
>>
>>> Elizaveta Moussinova wrote:
>>>
>>>> ... An sms message is an "sms-ka". "Otpravit' sms / sms-ku".
>>>
>>> Three syllables, not four, right? ╚???????╩, ? ?? ╚????????╩?
>>>
>>> But Google has 9,400 hits for the latter and only 32 for the former...
>>>
>>> --
>>> War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
>>> --
>>> Paul B. Gallagher
>>> pbg translations, inc.
>>> "Russian Translations That Read Like Originals"
>>> http://pbg-translations.com
>>>
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From jwilson at ALINGA.COM  Tue Jan 16 12:23:09 2007
From: jwilson at ALINGA.COM (Josh Wilson)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 15:23:09 +0300
Subject: Eurasianists
Message-ID: <TUE.16.JAN.2007.152309.0300.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Vestnik, The Journal of Russian and Asian Studies, published a paper on the
effects of the Mongol Empire on Russia. The paper takes a largely
positive-to-neutral view of the topic and covers topics of language,
religion, government, and general development. 

 

http://www.sras.org/news2.phtml?m=477  

 

Best, 

 

JW 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
[mailto:SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu] On Behalf Of Sergey Glebov

Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 10:12 PM

To: SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu

Subject: [SEELANGS] Eurasianists

 

Dear Alexandra,

 

 

 

all Russian historians had to say something about the Mongols, of course,
but apart from the Eurasianists very few people had anything positive to say
about them. Charles Halperin's argument regarding Karamzin's influence on
Vernadsky is substantiated because Karamzin saw the Mongols as an external
force that spearheaded the unification of divided Rus' princedoms. You have
this wonderful sentence in Karamzin's History: "". And Moscow owned its
greatness to the Khans." He also mentioned the re-enforcement of oriental
ties of Russia acquired through Byzantium by the Mongol invasion in his
Memoir but never specified what these ties were. 

 

But Halperin talks about the impact of the Mongols on the rise of the Moscow
STATE specifically. In all other respects, Karamzin believed that settled
and Christian Russians were infinitely superior to the "barabric" Mongols
and was reluctant to admit that these barbarians had any other impact on the
course of Russian history apart from utter destruction of civilization and
the subsequent need to unify the princedoms by Moscow. Karamzin saw the
Russian state as derived from Kiev, and the latter he described as similar
to other European states (feudal monarchies of Europe were founded by
Germanic barbarians, and so was Kievan Russia by Varangians).

 

This very positive mentioning of the Mongols in Karamzin needs to be read in
the context of his conception of the unique and positive protective role of
the Russian autocracy, which he developed under the impact of the French
Revolution and the subsequent Napoleonic wars. Otherwise, Karamzin's view of
the Mongols doesn't seem to differ from that of other Russian historians.

Solov'ev, of course, dismissed the Mongols as "irrelevant" because they had
nothing to add to his Hegelian scheme of the development of state, and I
already mentioned Kliuchevsky's view.  I am not qualified to say much about
the North as a lieu of Russian identity in literature but I don't think the
East (meaning Muslim or nomadic east of "Eurasia") was ever (before the

Eurasianists) a powerful symbol of that identity.

 

 

 

With friendly regards,

 

 

 

Sergey

 

 

Josh Wilson

Asst. Director

The School of Russian and Asian Studies

Editor-in-Chief

Vestnik, The Journal of Russian and Asian Studies

www.sras.org

jwilson at sras.org

 


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From emoussin at INDIANA.EDU  Tue Jan 16 13:36:13 2007
From: emoussin at INDIANA.EDU (Elizaveta Moussinova)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 08:36:13 -0500
Subject: Russian Cellphone jargon
In-Reply-To: <HC4Y43SP82YX54FEADASR2WC82VYU.45acaa5c@lucki-flight>
Message-ID: <TUE.16.JAN.2007.083613.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Quoting Andreas Giebelhaus <g_cad-zeichenservice at GMX.DE>:

>> I actually agree with your friend but didn't know how to explain it
>> without being accused of snobbism. :)) "Sms-ka" does sound provincial
>> just like "psikhushka" (psikhiatricheskaia bol'nitsa), "fotka",
>> "stiralka" (referring to a washing machine or an eraser. Really
>> horrible...), etc.
>
> Hi All,
>
> AFAIK  eraser is "stjorka", not "stiralka"
>
>> "Sms-ka" does sound provincial just like "psikhushka"
>> (psikhiatricheskaia bol'nitsa),
>
> o takoj assoziazii pervyj raz slyshu ....
>

"psikhushka" started being used much earlier than fotka or smska, but 
it's the same. It has almost entered a standard language. Unfortunately.

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From ingunn.lunde at KRR.UIB.NO  Tue Jan 16 13:42:32 2007
From: ingunn.lunde at KRR.UIB.NO (Ingunn Lunde)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 14:42:32 +0100
Subject: Russian Cellphone jargon
In-Reply-To: <200701161138.l0GBcOlg031796@alinga.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.16.JAN.2007.144232.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

For those interested in the various nominations of the cell phone in  
Russian (mobil'nyi/sotovyi (telefon), mobil'nik, mobilka, sotik,  
sotka, truba, trubka, sotovik, mobil', pelefon, khendi, mobila,  
mobil, mobil'ka, mobla, moblo, mobl, moblik) and their dissemination  
all over the Russian-speaking world, see V.I. Belikov's recent  
article: "Russkoe iazykovoe prostranstvo i tekhnicheskii progress",  
in Russkii iazyk segodnia, vyp. 4, M. 2006, pp. 62-76.

-------------
Ingunn Lunde
University of Bergen
http://www.hf.uib.no/i/russisk/landslide/ingunn.html


Am 16.01.2007 um 12:38 Uhr schrieb Josh Wilson:

> I don't believe anyone has mentioned another variant: sotovyi telefon
> (сотовый телефон).
>
> Landline is "gorodskoi telefon."
>
> Truba is interesting because it can be applied to a sotovyi telefon  
> or to
> the handset of a gorodskoi telefon




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From aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU  Tue Jan 16 14:11:35 2007
From: aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU (Alina Israeli)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 09:11:35 -0500
Subject: Russian Cellphone jargon
In-Reply-To: <45ACB9E3.000013.27336@webmail10.yandex.ru>
Message-ID: <TUE.16.JAN.2007.091135.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

On Jan 16, 2007, at 6:41 AM, Tatyana Buzina wrote:

> "Fotka" is indeed horrible, and the verb "sforkat'" is even worse.  
> Makes me want to scream and pounce on whoever says that :).  
> However, "sms-ka" is widely used by everybody, including university  
> professors, and, most importantly, some rather snobbish people  
> here, and ditto "psikhushka."

Same for "fotka" among those who use them most: bloggers who upload  
photographs on daily if not hourly basis, many of whom are  
professional artists, designers or photographers.

> While I am at it, there's also "sterka" for eraser. That one was  
> very popular when I was at school, and is still running strong. And  
> I've never heard stiralka in either sense. Interesting. I'll ask my  
> students and colleagues about it.


Here's what the web dictionary says (http://www.lingvo.ru/goroda/ 
dictionary.asp?word=150): Словарь «Языки русских городов»
ластик

Москва
изделие из резины или сходных мягких материалов для стирания надписей  
и рисунков

Syn:
резинка, стёрка, стиралка
БТС Изделие из резины или сходных мягких материалов для стирания  
надписей и рисунков
ОШ Кусочек специально обработанной резины для стирания написанного,  
нарисованного, резинка.


BTS the printed version or the BSZh (Bol'shoj slovar' zhargona) do  
not have the last two words.



Alina Israeli
LFS, American University
4400 Massachusetts Ave., NW
Washington DC. 20016
(202) 885-2387 	
fax (202) 885-1076
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From lehkost at GMAIL.COM  Tue Jan 16 15:10:02 2007
From: lehkost at GMAIL.COM (Bob Johnson)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 09:10:02 -0600
Subject: Polish Language courses online
In-Reply-To: <LISTSERV%200701160505249540.99E3@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
Message-ID: <TUE.16.JAN.2007.091002.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

The only university I know of that does that is the University of
Wisconsin.  They offer a two-course sequence in reading Polish at their
Independent Learning "campus."  The website for U of Wisconsin Independent
Learning is at http://learn.wisconsin.edu/il/ .  It's not a full program, so
you won't find it under any sort of major, but I'm fairly certain you can
find it by perusing the list of courses available.  I don't know how easy it
is to be admitted into the classes, but I don't think there is any
restriction to those residing outside of the United States (though maybe it
costs more).

Robert Johnson



On 1/16/07, Suzanne Wickum <suzanne.wickum at eu.dodea.edu> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> Does anyone know of a college or university who offers Polish credit
> courses online?
> Thanks
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From anne.lounsbery at NYU.EDU  Tue Jan 16 15:19:28 2007
From: anne.lounsbery at NYU.EDU (Anne Lounsbery)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:19:28 -0500
Subject: Russian Cellphone jargon (as "provincial")
In-Reply-To: <45ACB9E3.000013.27336@webmail10.yandex.ru>
Message-ID: <TUE.16.JAN.2007.101928.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I'm curious about the use of the term "provincial" in the discussion of cell
phone jargon.  What exactly do people see as the connotations of calling
something (a locution, a behavior, whatever) "provintsial'nyi" in
contemporary Russian context?   Is it perceived to have have anything to do
with geography really, or not?

As in:

>>"It's colloquial and slightly sloppy, if I may put it like that, but not
expressly provincial."

If anyone has thoughts on this I'd appreciate hearing them off-list at
anne.lounsbery at nyu.edu.  Thanks.



Anne Lounsbery
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Department of Russian and Slavic Studies
New York University
19 University Place, 2nd floor
New York, NY 10003

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From lehkost at GMAIL.COM  Tue Jan 16 15:15:08 2007
From: lehkost at GMAIL.COM (Bob Johnson)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 09:15:08 -0600
Subject: Publishing houses and Slavic studies
In-Reply-To: <LISTSERV%200701160501526420.99DE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
Message-ID: <TUE.16.JAN.2007.091508.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dieter,

There is a publisher called Slavica out of the U.S. (Columbus, OH) that
specializes in Slavic studies.  I'm not sure about the scope or breadth of
the materials they publish.  Depending on what particular subject matter or
how specialized it might be, there are many very good publishing houses in
the respective countries that offer very good books on their respective
languages.

Robert Johnson


On 1/16/07, Dieter De Bruyn <dieter.debruyn at ugent.be> wrote:
>
> Dear Seelangers,
>
> I was wondering if there exists a good list of publishing houses
> (worldwide) which are specialized in (all kinds of) Slavic studies. Does
>
> any of you have a clue?
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Dieter De Bruyn
> Ghent University
> Belgium
> dieter.debruyn at ugent.be
>
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From: sbauckus at EARTHLINK.NET (Susan Bauckus)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 07:40:11 -0800
Subject: Middlebury Inter-Institutional Russian Pedagogy Workshop,
 June 23-28, 2007
Message-ID: <TUE.16.JAN.2007.074011.0800.>

Dear Colleagues,
The following announces this summer's Middlebury Pedagogy Workshop. Please note that we have extended the application deadline to February 15 to accommodate those who are on break for January. 
 
Thank you,
Susan Bauckus
UCLA Center for World Languages
****
 
Inter-institutional Summer Immersion Russian Pedagogy Workshop
June 23-28, 2007 Middlebury College 
 
This workshop is co-sponsored by the following Title VI Centers: the UCLA Center for World Languages, the University of Kansas Center for Russian, East European and Eurasian Studies, the National Capital Language Resource Center (jointly directed by Georgetown University, George Washington University, and the Center for Applied Linguistics), and the University of Wisconsin-Madison Center for Russia, East Europe and Central Asia, with additional support from Middlebury College, and will be held on the Middlebury campus. About a dozen workshop participants will be given a stipend covering travel, lodging and food to come to Middlebury for classes on cutting edge pedagogy including the following topics: 
� Enhanced input approaches to teaching (William Comer, University of Kansas), 
� Heritage learners in the Russian curriculum (Olga Kagan, UCLA), 
� Using technology for teaching listening and reading (Richard Robin, George Washington University), 
� Teaching at the advanced level (Benjamin Rifkin, Temple University). 
The program is designed to meet the needs of college-level instructors of Russian; participants may be tenured or tenure-track faculty, lecturers, or graduate student teaching assistants. Participants will also have opportunities to observe instruction at a leading Russian-language summer program in the US and participate in the cultural programming of the Middlebury Russian School. Participants are required to observe and support the Middlebury Language Pledge while on campus; class sessions will be conducted in Russian. Faculty and participants arrive on Saturday, June 23, 2007 and depart the Middlebury campus on Thursday, June 28, 2007.

Applications must be submitted by February 15, 2007. To apply, to go http://www.international.ucla.edu/languages/middlebury/ and click on the �application form� link found on the right-hand side of the page. 

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From Mogens.Jensen at SKOLEKOM.DK  Tue Jan 16 15:41:30 2007
From: Mogens.Jensen at SKOLEKOM.DK (Mogens Jensen)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 16:41:30 +0100
Subject: Rachmaninov: Ave Maria
In-Reply-To: <HC4Y43SP82YX54FEADASR2WC82VYU.45acaa5c@lucki-flight>
Message-ID: <TUE.16.JAN.2007.164130.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Seelangers
A local choir will like to perform Rachmaninov: ”Ave Maria”.
In english the first words in transscription look as follows:

Bôgôroditse Deyvo, raduissya Blagôdatnaya Mariye

Can anyone help me with the russian text ?
(I have been asked to teach a proper pronunciation...)
Best regards, Mogens Jensen, Denmark



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From benjamin.rifkin at TEMPLE.EDU  Tue Jan 16 16:07:58 2007
From: benjamin.rifkin at TEMPLE.EDU (Benjamin Rifkin)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:07:58 -0500
Subject: Ruscico?
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Dear SEELANGers:

Do any of you order films from Ruscico?  They seem to distribute only from
Russia and russiandvd.com does not carry their titles.

Thanks for sharing your experience.

Sincerely,

BR

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Philadelphia, PA 19122 USA
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From maberdy at ONLINE.RU  Tue Jan 16 16:50:33 2007
From: maberdy at ONLINE.RU (=?windows-1251?Q?Michele_A_Berdy?=)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:50:33 -0500
Subject: SMSKI
Message-ID: <TUE.16.JAN.2007.115033.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

"SMSKI" a provincialism?  Gosh.  It's pretty much standard here in Moscow, 
even, as noted, among distinguished linguistics professors.  I was puzzled 
at first that these messages aren't called SMSes in English, but rather 
text messages.  BTW, trubka was originally St. Petersburg slang for a cell 
phone, and at first not understood down here in the southern capital.  

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From anne.lounsbery at NYU.EDU  Tue Jan 16 16:54:17 2007
From: anne.lounsbery at NYU.EDU (Anne Lounsbery)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:54:17 -0500
Subject: "provincial" expressions
In-Reply-To: <LISTSERV%200701161150338920.ADF9@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
Message-ID: <TUE.16.JAN.2007.115417.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I'm re-posting the query below with a different subject line, in case it was
missed by anyone not following the cell phone jargon thread.  Please forgive
the duplication.



I'm curious about the use of the term "provincial" in the discussion of cell
phone jargon.  What exactly do people see as the connotations of calling
something (a locution, a behavior, whatever) "provintsial'nyi" in
contemporary Russian context?   Is it perceived to have have anything to do
with geography really, or not?

As in:

>>"It's colloquial and slightly sloppy, if I may put it like that, but not
expressly provincial."
and
>>"SMSKI" a provincialism?  Gosh.  It's pretty much standard here in Moscow"

If anyone has thoughts on this I'd appreciate hearing them off-list at
anne.lounsbery at nyu.edu.  Thanks.



Anne Lounsbery
Assistant Professor and Director of Graduate Study
Department of Russian and Slavic Studies
New York University
19 University Place, 2nd floor
New York, NY 10003

(212) 998-8674

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From n_shevchuk at YAHOO.COM  Tue Jan 16 16:59:48 2007
From: n_shevchuk at YAHOO.COM (Nina Shevchuk)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 08:59:48 -0800
Subject: Publishing houses and Slavic studies
In-Reply-To: <ff816a450701160715j2890bc6al5bc0c7ade98ad1f4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.16.JAN.2007.085948.0800.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

http://www.awsshome.org/resources/publishers.pdf
   
  This is one list that could help us all. Perhaps, some of us are in the position to contact AWSS if they find mistakes or omissions on this list. It is very useful as it is, though.
   
  Best to all,
  Nina

Bob Johnson <lehkost at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
  Dieter,

There is a publisher called Slavica out of the U.S. (Columbus, OH) that
specializes in Slavic studies. I'm not sure about the scope or breadth of
the materials they publish. Depending on what particular subject matter or
how specialized it might be, there are many very good publishing houses in
the respective countries that offer very good books on their respective
languages.

Robert Johnson


On 1/16/07, Dieter De Bruyn wrote:
>
> Dear Seelangers,
>
> I was wondering if there exists a good list of publishing houses
> (worldwide) which are specialized in (all kinds of) Slavic studies. Does
>
> any of you have a clue?
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Dieter De Bruyn
> Ghent University
> Belgium
> dieter.debruyn at ugent.be
>
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8:00? 8:25? 8:40?  Find a flick in no time
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From ptydepe at UMICH.EDU  Tue Jan 16 17:20:06 2007
From: ptydepe at UMICH.EDU (Jindrich Toman)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:20:06 -0500
Subject: Publishing houses and Slavic studies
In-Reply-To: <155608.8467.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.16.JAN.2007.122006.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Not to forget MSP, see link below. JT

http://www.lsa.umich.edu/slavic/msp/



On 16.1.2007 11:59, "Nina Shevchuk" <n_shevchuk at YAHOO.COM> wrote:

> http://www.awsshome.org/resources/publishers.pdf
>    
>   This is one list that could help us all. Perhaps, some of us are in the
> position to contact AWSS if they find mistakes or omissions on this list. It
> is very useful as it is, though.
>    
>   Best to all,
>   Nina
> 
> Bob Johnson <lehkost at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>   Dieter,
> 
> There is a publisher called Slavica out of the U.S. (Columbus, OH) that
> specializes in Slavic studies. I'm not sure about the scope or breadth of
> the materials they publish. Depending on what particular subject matter or
> how specialized it might be, there are many very good publishing houses in
> the respective countries that offer very good books on their respective
> languages.
> 
> Robert Johnson
> 
> 
> On 1/16/07, Dieter De Bruyn wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Seelangers,
>> 
>> I was wondering if there exists a good list of publishing houses
>> (worldwide) which are specialized in (all kinds of) Slavic studies. Does
>> 
>> any of you have a clue?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance!
>> Dieter De Bruyn
>> Ghent University
>> Belgium
>> dieter.debruyn at ugent.be
>> 
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From lzaharkov at WITTENBERG.EDU  Tue Jan 16 19:17:36 2007
From: lzaharkov at WITTENBERG.EDU (Lila W. Zaharkov)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 14:17:36 -0500
Subject: Ruscico?
In-Reply-To: <C1D2628E.DE67%benjamin.rifkin@temple.edu>
Message-ID: <TUE.16.JAN.2007.141736.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

At 11:07 AM 01/16/2007, you wrote:
I've gotten all my Rusico films(mainly fairy tales from Russian DVD.com



>Dear SEELANGers:
>
>Do any of you order films from Ruscico?  They seem to distribute only from
>Russia and russiandvd.com does not carry their titles.
>
>Thanks for sharing your experience.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>BR
>
>--
>Benjamin Rifkin
>Professor of Russian and Vice Dean for Undergraduate Affairs
>College of Liberal Arts, Temple University
>1206 Anderson Hall, 1114 W. Berks St.
>Philadelphia, PA 19122 USA
>Voice 215-204-1816
>Fax 215-204-3731
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From rjs19 at COLUMBIA.EDU  Tue Jan 16 18:01:06 2007
From: rjs19 at COLUMBIA.EDU (Rebecca Jane Stanton)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:01:06 -0500
Subject: Rachmaninov: Ave Maria
In-Reply-To: <fc.000f47bd23db6a413b9aca00be1a9ec4.23db6adc@skolekom.dk>
Message-ID: <TUE.16.JAN.2007.130106.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Mogens,
the full prayer appears on the following webpage, under the heading 
"Pesn' Presviatoi Bogoroditse":
http://www.4udel.nne.ru/prayers/prayer_02.php
Other elements of the liturgy are there too, in case your choir decides 
to expands its Slavonic repertoire.
Best,
RJS

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From lehkost at GMAIL.COM  Tue Jan 16 20:14:45 2007
From: lehkost at GMAIL.COM (Bob Johnson)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 14:14:45 -0600
Subject: Rachmaninov: Ave Maria
In-Reply-To: <fc.000f47bd23db6a413b9aca00be1a9ec4.23db6adc@skolekom.dk>
Message-ID: <TUE.16.JAN.2007.141445.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Also, and correct me if I'm wrong people, the fortunate thing about singing
this is that you can use a simple pronunciation key...maybe from wikipedia?
In singing like this, I'm fairly certain that it is pronounced as it is
written, not as it is spoken.

Cheers,
Robert Johnson


On 1/16/07, Mogens Jensen <Mogens.Jensen at skolekom.dk> wrote:
>
> Dear Seelangers
> A local choir will like to perform Rachmaninov: "Ave Maria".
> In english the first words in transscription look as follows:
>
> Bôgôroditse Deyvo, raduissya Blagôdatnaya Mariye
>
> Can anyone help me with the russian text ?
> (I have been asked to teach a proper pronunciation...)
> Best regards, Mogens Jensen, Denmark
>
>
>
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From rjs19 at COLUMBIA.EDU  Tue Jan 16 21:14:48 2007
From: rjs19 at COLUMBIA.EDU (Rebecca Jane Stanton)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 16:14:48 -0500
Subject: Rachmaninov: Ave Maria
In-Reply-To: <ff816a450701161214i3caea224v641a3b0a851c53ba@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.16.JAN.2007.161448.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Yes, Church Slavic is sung "as written," i.e. with each Cyrillic letter 
consistently representing the same phoneme, but the transliterations can 
vary wildly!  I've seen monstrosities such as "byeahssmyeahrtnooee" for 
"bessmertnyi," for example.  So it really helps to have the text in 
modern Cyrillic, if it isn't already printed on the score (and in older 
Western editions, it isn't always).

Genevra Gerhart asked, very practically, if there were recordings 
available online with the proper pronunciation.  All I've been able to 
find is this, which has excellent MP3 files of several prayers and 
troparia, but not the one addressed to the Virgin, unfortunately!:
http://www.orthodoxepubsoc.org/prayers.htm

Best,
RJS

Bob Johnson wrote:

> Also, and correct me if I'm wrong people, the fortunate thing about 
> singing
> this is that you can use a simple pronunciation key...maybe from 
> wikipedia?
> In singing like this, I'm fairly certain that it is pronounced as it is
> written, not as it is spoken.
>
> Cheers,
> Robert Johnson
>
>
> On 1/16/07, Mogens Jensen <Mogens.Jensen at skolekom.dk> wrote:
>
>>
>> Dear Seelangers
>> A local choir will like to perform Rachmaninov: "Ave Maria".
>> In english the first words in transscription look as follows:
>>
>> Bôgôroditse Deyvo, raduissya Blagôdatnaya Mariye
>>
>> Can anyone help me with the russian text ?
>> (I have been asked to teach a proper pronunciation...)
>> Best regards, Mogens Jensen, Denmark
>>

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From pankova+ at PITT.EDU  Tue Jan 16 21:39:20 2007
From: pankova+ at PITT.EDU (Lenka Pankova)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 16:39:20 -0500
Subject: Kundera panel
In-Reply-To: <LISTSERV%200701160501526420.99DE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
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Dear Seelangers,

now that Milan Kundera has made a splash on this list, let me remind you
that I have been trying to put together an AATSEEL panel on topics clearly
dear to a SEELANGER's heart. This is the ad again (originally meant for
AAASS, but, as Kundera emphasized in his Jerusalem address, "man thinks,
God laughs"...
All the best, Lenka Pankova





Topics may include (but are not limited to):
-Kundera's reception /or lack thereof?/ in post-socialist Bohemia
-Kundera and the art of anti-nostalgia(???)
-Kundera and his "Central European Pleiad" (Gombrowicz, Kafka, Broch, Musil)
-Kundera's "key words" throughout his ouevre (for instance, memory,
forgetting, lightness, heaviness etc.)
-Music as an organizing principle in Kundera's works
-Targets of Kundera's sarcasm (ideologies East and West, consumerism,
graphomania, "free love," feminist literary theory...)

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From gbpeirce at UCIS.PITT.EDU  Tue Jan 16 21:43:35 2007
From: gbpeirce at UCIS.PITT.EDU (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gina_Peirce?=)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 16:43:35 -0500
Subject: Polish Language courses online
Message-ID: <TUE.16.JAN.2007.164335.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

The University of Pittsburgh has offered a first-year Polish language course
online at <http://polish.slavic.pitt.edu> for the past four years. The
course was designed by Professor Oscar Swan. Although academic credit for
the course is available only to University of Pittsburgh students, others
may wish to be aware of this resource.

Gina M. Peirce
Assistant Director
Center for Russian and East European Studies 
University of Pittsburgh
4414 Posvar Hall
Pittsburgh, PA 15260
Phone: (412) 648-2290
Fax: (412) 648-7002

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From sdsures at GMAIL.COM  Tue Jan 16 21:44:04 2007
From: sdsures at GMAIL.COM (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stephanie_Sures?=)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 16:44:04 -0500
Subject: "foto" for "fotografia"?
Message-ID: <TUE.16.JAN.2007.164404.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Is it acceptable (in Russian) to use a shortened form of the word &#1092;&#1086;&#1090;&#1086;&#1075;&#1088;&#1072;&amp;#1092;&#1080;&#1103;
- something like "&#1092;&#1086;&#1090;&#1086;"? 

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From sdsures at GMAIL.COM  Tue Jan 16 21:48:47 2007
From: sdsures at GMAIL.COM (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stephanie_Sures?=)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 16:48:47 -0500
Subject: "foto" for "fotografia"?
Message-ID: <TUE.16.JAN.2007.164847.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

My apologies to the list; my Russian font in Gmail didn't come through in
seelangs. :-) Internet multilingual gremlins lurk always. 

Here's a repost of my message:

Is it acceptable (in Russian) to use a shortened form of the word
"fotografia" - something like "foto"? 

Regards,
Stephanie Sures. 

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From kdlunde at MAC.COM  Tue Jan 16 21:54:56 2007
From: kdlunde at MAC.COM (Kern Lunde)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 16:54:56 -0500
Subject: Publishing houses and Slavic studies
In-Reply-To: <ff816a450701160715j2890bc6al5bc0c7ade98ad1f4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.16.JAN.2007.165456.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Actually, it's now located in Bloomington, Indiana:  http://slavica.com/

Kern Lunde

On Jan 16, 2007, at 10:15 AM, Bob Johnson wrote:

> Dieter,
>
> There is a publisher called Slavica out of the U.S. (Columbus, OH)  
> that
> specializes in Slavic studies.  I'm not sure about the scope or  
> breadth of
> the materials they publish.  Depending on what particular subject  
> matter or
> how specialized it might be, there are many very good publishing  
> houses in
> the respective countries that offer very good books on their  
> respective
> languages.
>
> Robert Johnson
>
>
> On 1/16/07, Dieter De Bruyn <dieter.debruyn at ugent.be> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Seelangers,
>>
>> I was wondering if there exists a good list of publishing houses
>> (worldwide) which are specialized in (all kinds of) Slavic  
>> studies. Does
>>
>> any of you have a clue?
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>> Dieter De Bruyn
>> Ghent University
>> Belgium
>> dieter.debruyn at ugent.be
>>
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From kdlunde at MAC.COM  Tue Jan 16 21:56:36 2007
From: kdlunde at MAC.COM (Kern Lunde)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 16:56:36 -0500
Subject: Polish Language courses online
In-Reply-To: <ff816a450701160710v258539d8v9b41bb70b34ea9bd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.16.JAN.2007.165636.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I'm taking the first of these course at present, not for credit, but  
just to gain the knowledge.  I believe they offer 1st and 2nd  
semester for high school credit or as a continuing education course  
(but not as a college credit course).

Kern Lunde


On Jan 16, 2007, at 10:10 AM, Bob Johnson wrote:

> The only university I know of that does that is the University of
> Wisconsin.  They offer a two-course sequence in reading Polish at  
> their
> Independent Learning "campus."  The website for U of Wisconsin  
> Independent
> Learning is at http://learn.wisconsin.edu/il/ .  It's not a full  
> program, so
> you won't find it under any sort of major, but I'm fairly certain  
> you can
> find it by perusing the list of courses available.  I don't know  
> how easy it
> is to be admitted into the classes, but I don't think there is any
> restriction to those residing outside of the United States (though  
> maybe it
> costs more).
>
> Robert Johnson
>
>
>
> On 1/16/07, Suzanne Wickum <suzanne.wickum at eu.dodea.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>> Does anyone know of a college or university who offers Polish credit
>> courses online?
>> Thanks
>>
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From maptekman at GMAIL.COM  Tue Jan 16 22:35:14 2007
From: maptekman at GMAIL.COM (Marina Aptekman)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:35:14 -0500
Subject: SEELANGS Digest - 16 Jan 2007 - Special issue (#2007-24)
In-Reply-To: <SEELANGS%200701161656400790.B164@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
Message-ID: <TUE.16.JAN.2007.173514.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

 Dear Ben,

Russiandvd.com DOES carry most of the ruscico titles - all films with
english subtitles on russiandvd.com are from ruscico.I ordered a lot
of them.

masha Aptekman
Brandeis Univeristy

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From a_strat at KHARKOV.COM  Tue Jan 16 22:25:06 2007
From: a_strat at KHARKOV.COM (Alex)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 00:25:06 +0200
Subject: "foto" for "fotografia"?
Message-ID: <WED.17.JAN.2007.002506.0200.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Stephanie! Try KOI-8.

Дорогая Стефани! Попробуйте кодировку KOI-8. Она должна работать здесь.
"Фото" вместо "фотография" звучит действительно несколько "простонародно",
но по сравнению с появившимся недавно совершенно жутким словечком "ФОТКА"
"фото" выглядит вполне "невинно" ;)))  Есть еще одно приемлемое
"неформальное"
слово - "снимок" (или фотоснимок).

Дядя Саша


----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephanie Sures" <sdsures at GMAIL.COM>
To: <SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 11:48 PM
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] "foto" for "fotografia"?


My apologies to the list; my Russian font in Gmail didn't come through in
seelangs. :-) Internet multilingual gremlins lurk always.

Here's a repost of my message:

Is it acceptable (in Russian) to use a shortened form of the word
"fotografia" - something like "foto"?

Regards,
Stephanie Sures.

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From lypark at UIUC.EDU  Tue Jan 16 22:06:02 2007
From: lypark at UIUC.EDU (Lynda Park)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 16:06:02 -0600
Subject: CfA: Balkan and Central Asia-Caucasus studies workshops for
 junior scholars, U of Illinois
Message-ID: <TUE.16.JAN.2007.160602.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Call for Applications

University of Illinois
Summer Research Laboratory on Russia, Eastern Europe, and Eurasia
http://www.reec.uiuc.edu/srl/srl.html

Central Asia-Caucasus Studies Training Workshop for Junior Scholars
“From Chechnya to Kabul: New Directions in Central Asian and Caucasus Studies”
June 26–28, 2007

Balkan Studies Training Workshop for Junior Scholars
“Building Balkan Studies: Integrating Multidisciplinary Perspectives”
June 27–29, 2007

The workshops are part of the Summer Research Laboratory on Russia, Eastern 
Europe, and Eurasia; organized by the Russian, East European, and Eurasian 
Center and the Slavic and East European Library at the University of 
Illinois, Urbana-Champaign; and funded in part by the U.S. Department of 
State Title VIII program.
====================================================================

Central Asia-Caucasus Studies Training Workshop for Junior Scholars

Dates
June 26–28, 2007

Workshop Moderator
Douglas Northrop, Associate Professor of History and Near Eastern Studies, 
University of Michigan

Workshop Goals
The central aim of this three-day workshop is to bring together advanced 
graduate students, junior faculty and other professionals who focus on 
modern Central Asia and the Caucasus in various disciplines to discuss 
their work and issues in the field. The workshop’s objectives are to foster 
a supportive network of colleagues involved in this field and to explore 
recent research paradigms and resources. The workshop will provide a superb 
forum in which to investigate a variety of pressing issues, including, but 
not limited to, the following:

§   State formation and democratization
§   Shifting geopolitical positions vis-à-vis the EU, the U.S., Russia, and 
the Middle East
§   Post-Soviet economic conditions; political economy; oil-gas politics
§   Ethnopolitics and the civil rights of minorities
§   The role of language (identity and citizenship; maintenance, shift, and 
endangerment)
§   Law reform, the writing of new legal codes
§   The place of Islam and other religions
§   Human security (terrorism, trafficking of women and children, organized 
crime syndicates)
§   Demographic movement (displaced peoples, diasporic formations, 
populations on the move, nomads)
§   Environmental politics--the implications of ecology
§   Gender, especially changing roles and images of women in society
§   The culture of socialism and postsocialism
§   Education (rewriting of curricula; establishment of new institutions 
for higher learning)
§   Popular culture and contemporary society (the entertainment industry, 
especially music)
§   The arts, social change, and postsocialist identity (literature, fine 
arts, architecture)
§   Rethinking historiography
==========================================

Balkan Studies Training Workshop for Junior Scholars
“Building Balkan Studies: Integrating Multidisciplinary Perspectives”

Dates
June 27–29, 2007

Workshop Moderator
Victor Friedman, Mellon Professor of Slavic Languages & Literatures and 
Linguistics, Director of CEERES, University of Chicago

Workshop Goals
The central aim of this three-day workshop is to bring together advanced 
graduate students, junior faculty and other professionals who focus on the 
modern Balkans in various disciplines to discuss their work and issues in 
the field. Although massive political change and the Yugoslav wars 
regularly put the region on the front page of major newspapers throughout 
the 1990s, Balkan studies is still a relatively underrepresented field. The 
workshop’s objectives are to foster a supportive network of colleagues 
involved in this field and to explore recent research paradigms and 
resources. The workshop will provide a superb forum in which to investigate 
a variety of pressing issues, including, but not limited to, the following:

§   State formation and democratization
§   Privatization and the creation of new market economies
§   Ethnopolitics and the civil rights of minorities
§   The role of language (identity and citizenship; maintenance, shift, and 
endangerment)
§   Law reform, the writing of new legal codes, and rethinking intellectual 
property rights
§   Human security (terrorism, trafficking of women and children, organized 
crime syndicates)
§   Demographic movement (displaced peoples, diasporic formations, 
refugees, guest workers)
§   The culture of socialism and postsocialism
§   Education (rewriting of curricula; establishment of new institutions 
for higher learning)
§   Popular culture and contemporary society (the entertainment industry, 
especially music and film)
§   The arts, social change, and postsocialist identity (literature, fine 
arts, architecture)
§   The changing position of Balkan states vis-à-vis the EU, the U.S., 
Russia, and the Middle East
§   Islam in Europe (architectural restoration, revival of Sufism, renewal 
of worship practices)
§   Gender, especially changing roles and images of women in society
=====================================================

Workshop Eligibility
The workshops are open to advanced graduate students and junior faculty in 
any discipline and professionals who specialize in the respective regions. 
To be eligible for the workshop housing and travel grants, which are funded 
by a U.S. State Department Title VIII grant, applicants must be U.S. 
citizens/permanent residents and must state the policy relevance (broadly 
defined) of their research in the application. Depending on space 
availability, those who do not qualify for financial support may 
participate in the workshop at their own expense.

Housing and Travel Grants
Participants who are eligible for the workshop may also apply for 
additional Summer Research Lab housing grants­-total of up to 14 days for 
graduate students; 8 for all others. Graduate students may also apply for 
travel grants of up to $200.

Deadline
15 April 2007 for US citizen/permanent resident applications
1 April 2007 for international applications (limited housing grant only)

Application
All participants are considered Summer Lab associates and must submit a 
Summer Research Lab application and application fee. To apply for financial 
assistance, applicants must also submit a one- to two-page research 
proposal that includes a statement clearly indicating the policy relevance 
of the proposed research.  Workshop space is limited.

To download an application form go to 
<http://www.reec.uiuc.edu/srl/srl.html>www.reec.uiuc.edu/srl/srl.html and 
click on “how to apply” in the navigation bar. To request a paper 
application form contact:

Summer Research Lab
Russian, East European, and Eurasian Center
University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
104 International Studies Building
910 S. Fifth Street
Champaign, IL 61820
(217) 333-1244; fax (217) 333-1582
<mailto:reec at uiuc.edu>reec at uiuc.edu
www.reec.uiuc.edu



Lynda Y. Park, Associate Director
Russian, East European, and Eurasian Center
University of Illinois
104 International Studies Building, MC-487
910 South Fifth Street
Champaign, IL 61820
(217) 333-6022, 333-1244; fax (217) 333-1582
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From lino59 at AMERITECH.NET  Wed Jan 17 01:37:50 2007
From: lino59 at AMERITECH.NET (Deborah Hoffman)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:37:50 -0800
Subject: Publishing houses and Slavic studies
In-Reply-To: <SEELANGS%200701161656400790.B164@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
Message-ID: <TUE.16.JAN.2007.173750.0800.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I think Slavica may have relocated to Indiana University at Bloomington...Indiana University Press also publishes Slavics-related material.
   
  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
   
   
  Date:    Tue, 16 Jan 2007 09:15:08 -0600
From:    Bob Johnson <lehkost at GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Publishing houses and Slavic studies

Dieter,

There is a publisher called Slavica out of the U.S. (Columbus, OH) that
specializes in Slavic studies.  I'm not sure about the scope or breadth 
of
the materials they publish.  Depending on what particular subject 
matter or
how specialized it might be, there are many very good publishing houses 
in
the respective countries that offer very good books on their respective
languages.

Robert Johnson


On 1/16/07, Dieter De Bruyn <dieter.debruyn at ugent.be> wrote:
>
> Dear Seelangers,
>
> I was wondering if there exists a good list of publishing houses
> (worldwide) which are specialized in (all kinds of) Slavic studies. 
Does
>
> any of you have a clue?
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Dieter De Bruyn
> Ghent University
> Belgium
> dieter.debruyn at ugent.be
>


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From lino59 at AMERITECH.NET  Wed Jan 17 01:49:18 2007
From: lino59 at AMERITECH.NET (Deborah Hoffman)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:49:18 -0800
Subject: Russian cellphone jargon
In-Reply-To: <SEELANGS%200701161020005950.ACB9@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
Message-ID: <TUE.16.JAN.2007.174918.0800.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I'd always thought that psikhushka originated as camp jargon.  Which I guess would be provincial in another sense...
   
  I had a house guest from Eastern Ukraine who called my machine stiralka. Do people really go to the trouble of saying stiral'naia mashina in everyday conversation instead?
   
  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
  Date:    Tue, 16 Jan 2007 08:36:13 -0500
From:    Elizaveta Moussinova <emoussin at INDIANA.EDU>
Subject: Re: Russian Cellphone jargon

Quoting Andreas Giebelhaus <g_cad-zeichenservice at GMX.DE>:

>> I actually agree with your friend but didn't know how to explain it
>> without being accused of snobbism. :)) "Sms-ka" does sound 
provincial
>> just like "psikhushka" (psikhiatricheskaia bol'nitsa), "fotka",
>> "stiralka" (referring to a washing machine or an eraser. Really
>> horrible...), etc.
>
> Hi All,
>
> AFAIK  eraser is "stjorka", not "stiralka"
>
>> "Sms-ka" does sound provincial just like "psikhushka"
>> (psikhiatricheskaia bol'nitsa),
>
> o takoj assoziazii pervyj raz slyshu ....
>

"psikhushka" started being used much earlier than fotka or smska, but 
it's the same. It has almost entered a standard language. 
Unfortunately.


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From Mogens.Jensen at SKOLEKOM.DK  Wed Jan 17 09:34:44 2007
From: Mogens.Jensen at SKOLEKOM.DK (Mogens Jensen)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:34:44 +0100
Subject: Rachmaninov: Ave Maria
In-Reply-To: <ff816a450701161214i3caea224v641a3b0a851c53ba@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <WED.17.JAN.2007.103444.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Many thanks to all the kind, knowing, helpful people out there !
I have now got, what is necessary to help the choir ("Vox Humana").
May you all be happe !
Best regards, Mogens Jensen (who was very good in Russian 20 years ago...)


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From emoussin at INDIANA.EDU  Wed Jan 17 10:45:33 2007
From: emoussin at INDIANA.EDU (Elizaveta Moussinova)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 05:45:33 -0500
Subject: "foto" for "fotografia"?
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Yes, it's acceptable. "Posmotri vot eto foto." It's neuter and undeclinable.

(I can't also see Cyrillic fonts for some reason.)

Quoting Stephanie Sures <sdsures at GMAIL.COM>:

> My apologies to the list; my Russian font in Gmail didn't come through in
> seelangs. :-) Internet multilingual gremlins lurk always.
>
> Here's a repost of my message:
>
> Is it acceptable (in Russian) to use a shortened form of the word
> "fotografia" - something like "foto"?
>
> Regards,
> Stephanie Sures.
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From jwilson at ALINGA.COM  Wed Jan 17 13:49:06 2007
From: jwilson at ALINGA.COM (Josh Wilson)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 16:49:06 +0300
Subject: "provincial" expressions
In-Reply-To: <HGEOKBCPAMOPGFJAGJBNOEEPDOAA.anne.lounsbery@nyu.edu>
Message-ID: <WED.17.JAN.2007.164906.0300.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

No, it really has nothing to do with geography anymore and is really much
more another way of saying "low-brow" or even something like "trailer park"
or "ghetto" in English. 

When I was in high school, we used to use "trailer park" as an adjective
(E.g. Yeah, she's cute, but a bit trailer park). It would mean uneducated
and coarse in character. "Ghetto" is more commonly used in this context in
English slang - but we didn't have many ghettos in Idaho. :) But I
digress... and am now rather self-conscience that I ever used any these
expressions in such a way... sigh... how trailer park. :) 





-----Original Message-----
From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
[mailto:SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu] On Behalf Of Anne Lounsbery
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 7:54 PM
To: SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu
Subject: [SEELANGS] "provincial" expressions

I'm re-posting the query below with a different subject line, in case it was
missed by anyone not following the cell phone jargon thread.  Please forgive
the duplication.



I'm curious about the use of the term "provincial" in the discussion of cell
phone jargon.  What exactly do people see as the connotations of calling
something (a locution, a behavior, whatever) "provintsial'nyi" in
contemporary Russian context?   Is it perceived to have have anything to do
with geography really, or not?

As in:

>>"It's colloquial and slightly sloppy, if I may put it like that, but not
expressly provincial."
and
>>"SMSKI" a provincialism?  Gosh.  It's pretty much standard here in Moscow"

If anyone has thoughts on this I'd appreciate hearing them off-list at
anne.lounsbery at nyu.edu.  Thanks.



Anne Lounsbery
Assistant Professor and Director of Graduate Study
Department of Russian and Slavic Studies
New York University
19 University Place, 2nd floor
New York, NY 10003

(212) 998-8674

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From dumanis at BUFFALO.EDU  Wed Jan 17 14:44:38 2007
From: dumanis at BUFFALO.EDU (Edward M Dumanis)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 09:44:38 -0500
Subject: Russian cellphone jargon
In-Reply-To: <516343.22185.qm@web80610.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <WED.17.JAN.2007.094438.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I guess it just shows that Russian is manyfold as other languges.
Eastern Ukraine and Moscow might handle it differently.

Sincerely,

Edward Dumanis <dumanis at buffalo.edu>

On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Deborah Hoffman wrote:

............../snip/...........    
>   I had a house guest from Eastern Ukraine who called my machine stiralka. Do people really go to the trouble of saying stiral'naia mashina in everyday conversation instead?

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From hhalva at MINDSPRING.COM  Wed Jan 17 15:32:10 2007
From: hhalva at MINDSPRING.COM (Helen Halva)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:32:10 -0500
Subject: Russian cellphone jargon
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.05.10701170938590.17534-100000@joxer.acsu.buffa
 lo.edu>
Message-ID: <WED.17.JAN.2007.103210.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I often heard "stiralka" in Rostov-na-Donu . . . . Maybe due to location 
not far from Ukraine?

HH




At 09:44 AM 1/17/2007 -0500, you wrote:
>I guess it just shows that Russian is manyfold as other languges.
>Eastern Ukraine and Moscow might handle it differently.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Edward Dumanis <dumanis at buffalo.edu>
>
>On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Deborah Hoffman wrote:
>
>............../snip/...........
> >   I had a house guest from Eastern Ukraine who called my machine 
> stiralka. Do people really go to the trouble of saying stiral'naia 
> mashina in everyday conversation instead?
>
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From aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU  Wed Jan 17 15:41:06 2007
From: aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU (Alina Israeli)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:41:06 -0500
Subject: "provincial" expressions
In-Reply-To: <200701171349.l0HDn7Ys003275@alinga.com>
Message-ID: <WED.17.JAN.2007.104106.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

1. We have to distinguish a) prescriptive usage and b) descriptive  
usage. Even the most academic of academic dictionaries include the  
standard and not so standard language.

2. We have to know where each variety of language - standard, not so  
standard, substandard, and so on (there are more than 3 Lomonosov's  
styles, but three is a good start) - is appropriate: who says what to  
whom and on what occasion.

3. There are different dialects, territorial as well as social ones.  
When I grew up in Leningrad I was well aware as a girl that the  
janitor's daughter who lived in the same apartment building as I  
spoke a very different language, she had a different pronunciation even.

Descriptively, Eastern Ukraine or Ekaterinbourg dialects are very  
interesting, prescriptively, I don't think I would necessarily follow  
their usage.

When we say "provincial" in common conversations we probably mean the  
condescending attitude the people in big cities (and I don't exclude  
my former self) take towards non-city relatives: they don't know how  
to dress, how to use the fork and knife and how to use the napkin.  
Language-wise this attitude means that they don't know point 2 above:  
they cannot maneuver from one style of discourse to another and use  
the language and its styles appropriately.

>   I had a house guest from Eastern Ukraine who called my machine  
> stiralka. Do people really go to the trouble of saying stiral'naia  
> mashina in everyday conversation instead?

I don't know if we can call it "go to the trouble", some devices do  
have long names, and some have acquired abbreviations. We say in  
English "washing machine" or "washer" but the latter mostly in the  
context of "washer and dryer", so Americans do go to the trouble of  
saying "washing machine" on many occasions. Or take "hair dryer": it  
hasn't become HD, or simply "dryer". One may be using it every day,  
but not necessarily talking about it every day.

It very much depends on how often the term is used. Those who use  
them on daily basis AND talk about them constantly must have shortcuts.

Going back to "psikhushka":


>> "Sms-ka" does sound provincial just like "psikhushka"
>> (psikhiatricheskaia bol'nitsa),


It very much depends on p.2 again. In my time that's where dissidents  
were taken, and those discussing it from the top floor to the the  
bottom of my apartment building (although not with one another, each  
on his own floor) would state: Ego uvezli v psixushku. A person  
working in the psychiatric ward will certainly not use that term  
about herself, and probably not even about the dissident in question.  
Speaking of someone who had a nervous breakdown, it depends on my  
attitude towards that person, his/her disease, his/her attitude  
towards the disease and also, his/her behavior prior to  
hospitalizations: if the person was raging mad, the word psixushka is  
very appropriate, if the person was a quiet paranoid nice person, I  
am more likely to say "ego polozhili v bol'nicu" while the  
psychiatrist from three lines above is more likely to say "ego  
gospitalizirovali".


And as a serious person that I am, I simply must mention Andrei  
Bil'zho who begins every little story with the words: Когда я работал  
в маленькой психиатрической больнице... http://www.peoples.ru/tv/bilzho/
Some may know better his caricatures: http://www.petrovich.ru/picture/


Alina Israeli
LFS, American University
4400 Massachusetts Ave., NW
Washington DC. 20016
(202) 885-2387 	
fax (202) 885-1076
aisrael at american.edu




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From iradzeva at GMAIL.COM  Wed Jan 17 18:20:49 2007
From: iradzeva at GMAIL.COM (Iryna Prykarpatska)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 19:20:49 +0100
Subject: Help with a survey
Message-ID: <WED.17.JAN.2007.192049.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear SEELANGERS,

Could you please help me to collect the empirical data for the project
"Culture-specific differences in realization of polite speech acts in
American English and Ukrainian". The collected data will be used in teaching
English  as a foreign language to  Ukrainians. All you need is just to
complete a questionnaire provided below.
There is just one requirement - the questionnaire has to be completed only
by those whose native language is American English.
Please forward this message to your American colleagues. This is a link to
the questionnaire:


http://wms.mat.agh.edu.pl/~yarchyk/survey/survey.php?surveyid=4

Thank you very much
Best regards,
Iryna Prykarpatska
Jagiellonian University
Poland

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From Kristi.Groberg at NDSU.EDU  Wed Jan 17 20:11:05 2007
From: Kristi.Groberg at NDSU.EDU (Kristi Groberg)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:11:05 -0600
Subject: SHERA?
In-Reply-To: <C1CC6F61.565A%kmhst16@pitt.edu>
Message-ID: <WED.17.JAN.2007.141105.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

At 21:49 11.01.2007, you wrote:
>Does anyone know what has become of SHERA (that¹s Society of Historians of
>East European and Russian Art and Architecture, not She-Ra)?  I¹ve attempted
>to contact the (last-known) officers regarding renewing my lapsed
>membership, but have heard nothing.  Perhaps the society is now defunct?
>Any information will be much appreciated.
>
>Thank you.
>
>Kristen

Our contact and membership person used to be 
Karen Kettering at the Hillwood Museum in DC. <kkettering at hillwoodmuseum.org>
As far as I know, we are not defunct.

Kris Groberg, Ph.D.
324D division of Fine Arts
NDSU Box 5691
Fargo, ND 58105-5691

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From HumanResources at AMERICANCOUNCILS.ORG  Wed Jan 17 21:52:35 2007
From: HumanResources at AMERICANCOUNCILS.ORG (HumanResources HumanResources)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 16:52:35 -0500
Subject: Disc: " Job Opening at American Councils for International Ed in
 Yekaterinburg, Russia"
Message-ID: <WED.17.JAN.2007.165235.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Position Description


SUMMARY:
The Office Director is the key individual in the field office responsible program administration.  Primary responsibilities include: recruitment and testing of potential program participants; orientation and coordination of logistics for participants; oversight of administrative and finance functions; participation in coordination of alumni events;  liaison with US and Russian government officials; and development of initiatives related to American Councils’ work in the region.  The Office Director reports to the Regional Director for Russia, and works in conjunction with: Moscow administrative officers and Washington-based program managers.

PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITIES INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO: 
Administration and Finance Duties:  
·	Organize and maintain all participant document files;
·	Respond to inquiries and correspondence related to all programs;
·	Assist with recruitment of office staff;
·	Prepare materials for training seminars;
·	Prepare and submit timesheets twice a month; 
·	Oversee and conduct performance reviews for office staff;
·	Monitor outgoing and incoming funds; 
·	Manage fiscal operations of the office;
·	Provide DC office with finance reports and budgets on a monthly basis
·	Assist in the development of new organizational and business development initiatives  

Alumni Events:  
·	Appoint and oversee alumni assistants;
·	Assist in planning, organizing and implementing events; 
·	Prepare report on alumni events; 	
·	Monitor recruiters’ alumni activities

Government Liaison:
·	Meet with ministry officials before program recruitment begins to provide information and overview of the competition process; keep them informed of changes regarding the competition;
·	Provide ministry officials with program and competition materials, as requested;
·	Facilitate meeting with candidates and their parents
·	Maintain regular communications with US Consulate staff on recruitment, processing, participant on-program support, and alumni programming.

Recruitment/Testing:  
·	Assist recruiters in finding recruiting assistants ;
·	Prepare contracts for recruiting assistants ;
·	Oversee recruitment activities to assure the competition is conducted properly and in a timely manner;
·	Secure advertising and testing location;
·	Conduct testing;
·	Organize and participate in meetings with candidates, finalists and their parents;
·	Conduct interviews with candidates;
·	Prepare materials for finalist packets;
·	Prepare correspondence with candidates, finalists, those not selected, and alternates;

Orientation:  
·	Organize and conduct meetings for all finalists and alternates;
·	Organize and lead multiple cycles of 3 day pre-departure orientations for finalists;
·	Respond to requests and relay information to finalists and alternates;
·	Assist in all travel and lodging logistics:  meeting flights; transporting to hotels; organizing meeter greeters;
·	Assist with participant orientation registration; 
·	Organize parents’ meeting, including contributions from alumni, local assistants, and Americans;
·	Serve as liaison with ministry and USG officials to encourage attendance; 

Returning Participants:  
·	Maintain contact with parents of returning students;
·	Organize and conduct meeting for parents of returning students;
·	Purchase travel tickets for returning students;

QUALIFICATIONS:
·	Program administration experience;
·	Supervisory experience;
·	Fluent in Russian and/or regional languages;
·	Experience traveling extensively under difficult conditions;
·	Experience in budget management;
·	BA in relevant field (e.g. Russian language, Russian area studies, education, etc.) required; advanced degree preferred

TO APPLY:
Send letter/resume and salary requirements to HR Department, American Councils, 1776 Massachusetts Avenue, Suite 700, Washington, DC  20036.  Fax: 202-872-9178 or 202-833-7523; email: resumes at americancouncils.org. Affirmative Action / Equal Opportunity Employer.

American Councils for International Education: ACTR/ACCELS is an international not-for-profit organization working to advance education, research, and mutual understanding across the United States and the nations of Eastern Europe, Eurasia, and Southeast Europe. Its mission is to foster democratic development and civil societies by advancing education and research, cultivating leadership, and empowering individuals and institutions through learning. With a staff of 400 professionals in 17 countries, American Councils designs, implements, and supports innovative programs in education, community outreach, and scholarly research.

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From Subhash.Jaireth at GA.GOV.AU  Thu Jan 18 03:04:51 2007
From: Subhash.Jaireth at GA.GOV.AU (Subhash.Jaireth at GA.GOV.AU)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:04:51 +1100
Subject: Yalta
Message-ID: <THU.18.JAN.2007.140451.1100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Hi,

I was wondering if some one has recently visited Yalta? I need to confirm a
few things about Yalta for an essay I am writing.

Thanks and best wishes


Subhash

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From nflrc at HAWAII.EDU  Thu Jan 18 05:04:13 2007
From: nflrc at HAWAII.EDU (National Foreign Language Resource Center)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 19:04:13 -1000
Subject: "Developing Useful Evaluation Practices in College Foreign
 Language Programs" (NFLRC Summer Institute) - application
 deadline February 15
Message-ID: <WED.17.JAN.2007.190413.1000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Our apologies for any cross-postings . . .


The National Foreign Language Resource Center at the University of Hawaii
at Manoa is pleased to announce its 2007 Summer Institute workshop:


		"Developing Useful Evaluation Practices
		 in College Foreign Language Programs"

	      University of Hawaii at Manoa, Honolulu, HI

			  May 28 - June 6, 2007

		http://nflrc.hawaii.edu/prodev/si07d/


SUMMARY:
This NFLRC Summer Institute is designed to help college foreign language
administrators and teachers engage in useful, practical, and effective
program evaluations to meet a variety of purposes. It takes seriously the
values, goals, and constraints that characterize college language programs
and will provide language educators with a user-oriented approach to
developing evaluations that maximize benefits for language learners and
teachers, while minimizing potential negative consequences. It will also
provide participants with tools and strategies for making program
evaluation a systematic and consistently useful component of their FL
departments.

ACTIVITIES:
The Institute will be run by DR. JOHN M. NORRIS (UH Dept. of Second
Language Studies), an expert in language program evaluation and
assessment.  Activities over the 9-day institute will include lectures and
demonstrations, in-depth analyses of practical evaluation examples,
invited guest speakers (language evaluation experts), social events, and
extensive hands-on development and discussion of evaluation plans,
procedures, and instruments for immediate use in the participants specific
program settings.

PARTICIPANT ELIGIBILITY:
This workshop is intended for U.S. foreign language administrators and
teachers who are directly responsible for program evaluations in their
foreign language departments. It assumes no prior grounding in program
evaluation theory or practice, but it requires a willingness to help
increase evaluation capacity in college FL education. In order to maximize
the impact of this event across U.S. colleges, participants will be
purposefully selected to represent diverse FL program types, based on
size, languages taught, geography, and institutional status.

PARTIAL FINANCIAL SUPPORT is available to all participants in the NFLRC
Summer Institute, on a competitive and space-limited basis. Summer
Institute participants are also highly encouraged to participate in the
ADFL SUMMER SEMINAR WEST (directly following the Summer Institute in
Hawaii), where they will have opportunities to share their program
evaluation work.


APPLY TODAY!
For more details about the Summer Institute (including information about
affordable lodging options, fees, and more) or for the online application
form, visit our website at http://nflrc.hawaii.edu/prodev/si07d/

ONLINE APPLICATION DEADLINE - FEBRUARY 15, 2007


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From jwilson at ALINGA.COM  Thu Jan 18 11:32:05 2007
From: jwilson at ALINGA.COM (Josh Wilson)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:32:05 +0300
Subject: Help with a survey
In-Reply-To: <8a9977930701171020w31762640u4ffb2c2a70e55e32@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <THU.18.JAN.2007.143205.0300.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Irina, 

Do you have a personal contact email for folks who might have questions on
this? 

Best, 

JW 

-----Original Message-----
From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
[mailto:SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu] On Behalf Of Iryna Prykarpatska
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 9:21 PM
To: SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu
Subject: [SEELANGS] Help with a survey

Dear SEELANGERS,

Could you please help me to collect the empirical data for the project
"Culture-specific differences in realization of polite speech acts in
American English and Ukrainian". The collected data will be used in teaching
English  as a foreign language to  Ukrainians. All you need is just to
complete a questionnaire provided below.
There is just one requirement - the questionnaire has to be completed only
by those whose native language is American English.
Please forward this message to your American colleagues. This is a link to
the questionnaire:


http://wms.mat.agh.edu.pl/~yarchyk/survey/survey.php?surveyid=4

Thank you very much
Best regards,
Iryna Prykarpatska
Jagiellonian University
Poland

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From miquelcabal at WANADOO.ES  Thu Jan 18 09:06:15 2007
From: miquelcabal at WANADOO.ES (Miquel Cabal Guarro)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:06:15 +0100
Subject: PhD Dissertations
In-Reply-To: <E3712168-8EC7-47DD-AB5D-E429B2FBD21B@american.edu>
Message-ID: <THU.18.JAN.2007.100615.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Hello,

I am a student of the PhD program on Linguistics at the University of  
Barcelona. My dissertation will deal with the question of the writing  
systems amongst the early Slavic tribes, and I would like to get as  
much information as possible about it.

Moreover, I am looking for any kind of PhD Dissertation about Russian  
language, Slavic historical linguistics, writing systems, etc.

Thank you,

Miquel Cabal Guarro
Universitat de Barcelona

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From paerok at NAROD.RU  Thu Jan 18 17:39:10 2007
From: paerok at NAROD.RU (paerok)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:39:10 +0300
Subject: PhD Dissertations
In-Reply-To: <9E248CD1-8D3F-461C-8862-7922AB54A1C5@wanadoo.es>
Message-ID: <THU.18.JAN.2007.203910.0300.PAEROK@NAROD.RU>

This may appear helpful:
http://paerok.narod.ru/linx/index.htm

Sergey A. Naumov

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From iradzeva at GMAIL.COM  Thu Jan 18 18:00:10 2007
From: iradzeva at GMAIL.COM (Iryna Prykarpatska)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:00:10 +0100
Subject: Help with a survey
In-Reply-To: <200701181131.l0IBVohZ005548@alinga.com>
Message-ID: <THU.18.JAN.2007.190010.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Yes I have, iradzeva at gmail.com -  it is my personal email address.


2007/1/18, Josh Wilson <jwilson at alinga.com>:
>
> Irina,
>
> Do you have a personal contact email for folks who might have questions on
> this?
>
> Best,
>
> JW
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
> [mailto:SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu] On Behalf Of Iryna Prykarpatska
> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 9:21 PM
> To: SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu
> Subject: [SEELANGS] Help with a survey
>
> Dear SEELANGERS,
>
> Could you please help me to collect the empirical data for the project
> "Culture-specific differences in realization of polite speech acts in
> American English and Ukrainian". The collected data will be used in
> teaching
> English  as a foreign language to  Ukrainians. All you need is just to
> complete a questionnaire provided below.
> There is just one requirement - the questionnaire has to be completed only
> by those whose native language is American English.
> Please forward this message to your American colleagues. This is a link to
> the questionnaire:
>
>
> http://wms.mat.agh.edu.pl/~yarchyk/survey/survey.php?surveyid=4
>
> Thank you very much
> Best regards,
> Iryna Prykarpatska
> Jagiellonian University
> Poland
>
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From e.gapova at WORLDNET.ATT.NET  Thu Jan 18 18:28:10 2007
From: e.gapova at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Elena Gapova)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 13:28:10 -0500
Subject: Yalta
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I have. Failry recently.
e.g.

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Hi,

I was wondering if some one has recently visited Yalta? I need to confirm a
few things about Yalta for an essay I am writing.

Thanks and best wishes


Subhash

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From iradzeva at GMAIL.COM  Thu Jan 18 18:57:29 2007
From: iradzeva at GMAIL.COM (Iryna Prykarpatska)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:57:29 +0100
Subject: politeness survey
In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.1.20070118004252.03985498@alphap.csd.uwm.edu>
Message-ID: <THU.18.JAN.2007.195729.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Hi Joseph,


Thank you very much for your recommendations. I have been thinking for quite
a long time how to  construct this questionnaire in the respect of the
socio-demographic characteristics of the interlocutors and as well as the
most prototypical situations in which the polite speech acts, which I
research (greetings, complaints), occur . And I decided to make the majority
of the questions in the questionaire open-ended, thus giving the respondents
certain freedom in providing their own responses. After I collect the
empirical data and I see the most prototypical answers I will be able to
group and classify them and then make another questionnaire with multiple
answers. Let's see what I get.
By the way, how do you research politeness, in what language and what polite
speech acts?

Thank you
Best regards
Iryna


2007/1/18, Joseph Peschio <peschio at uwm.edu>:
>
>
> Hi Iryna,




I tried to take your survey (always glad to help - especially because
> I'm very interested in politeness constructions), but I couldn't
> really complete it because it's very difficult to understand what,
> exactly, you're after because the scenarios are not really specific
> enough.  If I may be so bold, I'd suggest that you run the survey
> questions by a couple test subjects before you try to gather survey
> results from a broader sample.  Unfortunately, I'm a little pressed
> for time and can't help you in this regard just now.  I suspect your
> test subjects would tell you that it would be better if you provided
> them possible variants for each situation.  For example:  a) Hi  b)
> Hello  c) Good morning  d) How are you  e) Other
>
> Cheers,
> Joe
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Joe Peschio, PhD
> Coordinator, Slavic Languages and REES
> Foreign Languages and Linguistics/Slavic
> University of Wisconsin--Milwaukee
> Milwaukee, WI 53201-0413 USA
> (414) 229-4949
>
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From man3 at LEHIGH.EDU  Thu Jan 18 19:02:44 2007
From: man3 at LEHIGH.EDU (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mary_Nicholas?=)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:02:44 -0500
Subject: Student success stories needed!
Message-ID: <THU.18.JAN.2007.140244.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Colleagues! As you settle into the spring semester, please consider
sharing the success stories of your students with a wider audience. 

The AATSEEL web site is currently being updated, and the new site will
include a spot for feature stories. We hope to include interesting feature
articles about students---your students!---who have studied Slavic languages
and then gone on to use those languages in interesting lives and careers.

The articles are meant to be short, informative, and inspirational, and we
can contact the students for you if you like or work with the material you
already have available. This is a way for you to highlight your program and
share your success so please consider contributing even a line or two to
inspire others. Tell us about recent graduates working in the Slavic world
or even about students with interesting semester or summer experiences.

Please contact me off-list at mary.nicholas at lehigh.edu with material you are
willing to have publicized. We'd love to hear from you! 

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From chaput at FAS.HARVARD.EDU  Thu Jan 18 19:10:04 2007
From: chaput at FAS.HARVARD.EDU (Patricia Chaput)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:10:04 -0500
Subject: politeness survey
In-Reply-To: <8a9977930701181057l340e52faj66257402da55a7d9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <THU.18.JAN.2007.141004.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I did the survey and had similar problems, but I typed in variations for 
different scenarios.  I don't think I would go with supplied options, 
since I think they would be constraining.  I think that after you have 
received some of the surveys back, you may have some idea of how to 
narrow the situations.  So many of the situations presented depend on 
specifics of the situations and relationships between the interlocutors, 
plus what you are tyring to communicate.  For example, on the question 
about someone arriving twenty minutes late--Do you want to put the 
person at ease?  Does it really matter that s/he is late?  Is there a 
time constraint?  Is this a form of chronic rudeness?  Each scenario 
would take a different response.  I find this topic very interesting and 
hope that you will let participants know where they can learn about your 
results.
Patricia Chaput
Slavic Department
Harvard University

On 1/18/2007 1:57 PM, Iryna Prykarpatska wrote:
> Hi Joseph,
>
>
> Thank you very much for your recommendations. I have been thinking for 
> quite
> a long time how to  construct this questionnaire in the respect of the
> socio-demographic characteristics of the interlocutors and as well as the
> most prototypical situations in which the polite speech acts, which I
> research (greetings, complaints), occur . And I decided to make the 
> majority
> of the questions in the questionaire open-ended, thus giving the 
> respondents
> certain freedom in providing their own responses. After I collect the
> empirical data and I see the most prototypical answers I will be able to
> group and classify them and then make another questionnaire with multiple
> answers. Let's see what I get.
> By the way, how do you research politeness, in what language and what 
> polite
> speech acts?
>
> Thank you
> Best regards
> Iryna
>
>
> 2007/1/18, Joseph Peschio <peschio at uwm.edu>:
>>
>>
>> Hi Iryna,
>
>
>
>
> I tried to take your survey (always glad to help - especially because
>> I'm very interested in politeness constructions), but I couldn't
>> really complete it because it's very difficult to understand what,
>> exactly, you're after because the scenarios are not really specific
>> enough.  If I may be so bold, I'd suggest that you run the survey
>> questions by a couple test subjects before you try to gather survey
>> results from a broader sample.  Unfortunately, I'm a little pressed
>> for time and can't help you in this regard just now.  I suspect your
>> test subjects would tell you that it would be better if you provided
>> them possible variants for each situation.  For example:  a) Hi  b)
>> Hello  c) Good morning  d) How are you  e) Other
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Joe
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Joe Peschio, PhD
>> Coordinator, Slavic Languages and REES
>> Foreign Languages and Linguistics/Slavic
>> University of Wisconsin--Milwaukee
>> Milwaukee, WI 53201-0413 USA
>> (414) 229-4949
>>
>>
>
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From: ldi99 at YAHOO.COM (=?windows-1251?Q?Lisa_Di_Bartolomeo?=)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:50:05 -0500
Subject: Russian Speakers Sought
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An Announcement for qualified applicants:

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From darancourlaferriere at COMCAST.NET  Thu Jan 18 19:47:26 2007
From: darancourlaferriere at COMCAST.NET (Daniel Rancour-Laferriere)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 11:47:26 -0800
Subject: Translation question
Message-ID: <THU.18.JAN.2007.114726.0800.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

18 Jan 07

Dear colleagues,

A colleague in Moscow who is translating Samuel Butler into Russian has 
posed a question which I cannot answer (even the English in unclear to 
me).  Could anyone lend a helping hand?

>I hope, you wouldn't mind my bothering you about a difficult passage from Samuel Butler, which I'm at a loss how to translate, and none of the professional translators whom I asked was able to offer me a satisfactory variant. So, your assistance as a native speaker and also Russian-speaking literature scholar would be of an immense value to me. 
>
>Here's the passage:
>
>"There is no casting of swine's meat before men worse than that which would flatter virtue as though her true origin were not good enough for her, but she must have a lineage, deduced as it were by spiritual heralds, from some stock with which she has nothing to do." (Samuel Butler. The Way of All Flesh. Chap. XIX (Par. 5))
>
>I would appreciate very much any ideas regarding the translation or at least explanation of the first part of the phrase prior to the first comma. Definitely, there's a biblical allusion here ("cast pearls before swine"), but what it MEANS in this context or how it is related to the rest of it, I'm at my wits' end.
>
Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

Regards to the list,

Daniel Rancour-Laferriere

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From kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM  Thu Jan 18 20:21:25 2007
From: kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Robert Chandler)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:21:25 +0000
Subject: Translation question
In-Reply-To: <45AFCECE.7000206@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <THU.18.JAN.2007.202125.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I would summarize the sense of the entire passage as follows: 'Virtue is its
own justification.  Inventing false stories in justification of virtue is
damaging.'

R.




> 18 Jan 07
> 
> Dear colleagues,
> 
> A colleague in Moscow who is translating Samuel Butler into Russian has
> posed a question which I cannot answer (even the English in unclear to
> me).  Could anyone lend a helping hand?
> 
>> I hope, you wouldn't mind my bothering you about a difficult passage from
>> Samuel Butler, which I'm at a loss how to translate, and none of the
>> professional translators whom I asked was able to offer me a satisfactory
>> variant. So, your assistance as a native speaker and also Russian-speaking
>> literature scholar would be of an immense value to me.
>> 
>> Here's the passage:
>> 
>> "There is no casting of swine's meat before men worse than that which would
>> flatter virtue as though her true origin were not good enough for her, but
>> she must have a lineage, deduced as it were by spiritual heralds, from some
>> stock with which she has nothing to do." (Samuel Butler. The Way of All
>> Flesh. Chap. XIX (Par. 5))
>> 
>> I would appreciate very much any ideas regarding the translation or at least
>> explanation of the first part of the phrase prior to the first comma.
>> Definitely, there's a biblical allusion here ("cast pearls before swine"),
>> but what it MEANS in this context or how it is related to the rest of it, I'm
>> at my wits' end.
>> 
> Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
> 
> Regards to the list,
> 
> Daniel Rancour-Laferriere
> 
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From crosswhi at RICE.EDU  Thu Jan 18 20:57:10 2007
From: crosswhi at RICE.EDU (Katherine Crosswhite)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:57:10 -0600
Subject: Translation question
In-Reply-To: <45AFCECE.7000206@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <THU.18.JAN.2007.145710.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Well, here's my translation into, uh, English:

"There's nothing that invites a person to act incorrectly more than the 
claim that virtue has a fancy lineage, that virtue springs from 
religion/God."  It was pretty opaque at first, but I looked on Project 
Gutenberg and in context it is clear that "flatter virtue as though her 
true origin" is meant to be parsed something like "flatter virtue by 
telling her that her true origin is...", with a personified virtue.  I 
think casting swine's meat before men is supposed to be mean "doing 
something to make someone else (unknowingly) sin" but maybe someone with 
more knowledge of the Bible could weigh in.

In the preceding paragraphs, the author is arguing that virtue is a very 
mundane thing -- that people should figure out what things "lead to long 
life and comfort, and act accordingly."  In the following section, he 
says that is some "purported virtue" time and again leads to 
unhappiness, it should instead be viewed as an "insidious form of vice."

That's my take.

Best,

K.

Daniel Rancour-Laferriere wrote:
> 18 Jan 07
>
> Dear colleagues,
>
> A colleague in Moscow who is translating Samuel Butler into Russian 
> has posed a question which I cannot answer (even the English in 
> unclear to me).  Could anyone lend a helping hand?
>
>> I hope, you wouldn't mind my bothering you about a difficult passage 
>> from Samuel Butler, which I'm at a loss how to translate, and none of 
>> the professional translators whom I asked was able to offer me a 
>> satisfactory variant. So, your assistance as a native speaker and 
>> also Russian-speaking literature scholar would be of an immense value 
>> to me.
>> Here's the passage:
>>
>> "There is no casting of swine's meat before men worse than that which 
>> would flatter virtue as though her true origin were not good enough 
>> for her, but she must have a lineage, deduced as it were by spiritual 
>> heralds, from some stock with which she has nothing to do." (Samuel 
>> Butler. The Way of All Flesh. Chap. XIX (Par. 5))
>>
>> I would appreciate very much any ideas regarding the translation or 
>> at least explanation of the first part of the phrase prior to the 
>> first comma. Definitely, there's a biblical allusion here ("cast 
>> pearls before swine"), but what it MEANS in this context or how it is 
>> related to the rest of it, I'm at my wits' end.
>>
> Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
>
> Regards to the list,
>
> Daniel Rancour-Laferriere
>
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From ggerhart at COMCAST.NET  Thu Jan 18 22:56:29 2007
From: ggerhart at COMCAST.NET (Genevra Gerhart)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:56:29 -0800
Subject: Translation question
In-Reply-To: <45AFCECE.7000206@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <THU.18.JAN.2007.145629.0800.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I would like to suggest that the passage might be much more comprehensible
if you try diagramming it. 

Genevra Gerhart
 
ggerhart at comcast.net
 
www.genevragerhart.com
www.russiancommonknowledge.com
 
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of Daniel Rancour-Laferriere
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 11:47 AM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: [SEELANGS] Translation question

18 Jan 07

Dear colleagues,

A colleague in Moscow who is translating Samuel Butler into Russian has 
posed a question which I cannot answer (even the English in unclear to 
me).  Could anyone lend a helping hand?

>I hope, you wouldn't mind my bothering you about a difficult passage from
Samuel Butler, which I'm at a loss how to translate, and none of the
professional translators whom I asked was able to offer me a satisfactory
variant. So, your assistance as a native speaker and also Russian-speaking
literature scholar would be of an immense value to me. 
>
>Here's the passage:
>
>"There is no casting of swine's meat before men worse than that which would
flatter virtue as though her true origin were not good enough for her, but
she must have a lineage, deduced as it were by spiritual heralds, from some
stock with which she has nothing to do." (Samuel Butler. The Way of All
Flesh. Chap. XIX (Par. 5))
>
>I would appreciate very much any ideas regarding the translation or at
least explanation of the first part of the phrase prior to the first comma.
Definitely, there's a biblical allusion here ("cast pearls before swine"),
but what it MEANS in this context or how it is related to the rest of it,
I'm at my wits' end.
>
Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

Regards to the list,

Daniel Rancour-Laferriere

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From tsergay at COLUMBUS.RR.COM  Thu Jan 18 23:18:11 2007
From: tsergay at COLUMBUS.RR.COM (Timothy D. Sergay)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:18:11 -0500
Subject: Translation question ("swine's meat before men")
Message-ID: <THU.18.JAN.2007.181811.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear colleagues,

    I think the key to the figure "swine's meat" is the archaic English 
sense of "meat": "food of any kind" (New Oxford American English 
Dictionary). The philosophic topic is the derivation of virtue, that is, the 
tracing of our knowledge of the good to its proper roots, specifically, the 
question of whether those roots lie in some metaphysical realm or in the 
realm of natural and common human experience. Butler argues strongly for the 
latter. As for Butler's figure in its context, I believe the rhetoric of 
"casting swine's meat before men" would parse logically as follows: it is a 
satirical reversal of the Gospel figure "to cast pearls before swine" that 
operates by redistributing the attributes "worthy" and "unworthy" between 
two elements: (1) the thing cast (i.e., offered) and (2) the party BEFORE 
whom (1) is cast (i.e., the party TO whom [1] is offered). Pigs, or more 
precisely, the category "swinish," functions as a metaphor for 
"unworthiness" in both cases. In the Gospel, element 1, pearls, something of 
great worth, is cast before swine (unworthy recipients); in Butler's figure, 
element 1, "swine's meat," is something unworthy of men (worthy recipients): 
it is "meat fit for swine". If you cast "swine's meat before men," you offer 
men something unworthy of them, unfit for human consumption. In Butler, 
then, element 1, the thing offered, is ethical theories that seek to derive 
virtue from something other than "man's experience concerning his own 
well-being," namely, "a lineage, deduced as it were by spiritual heralds, 
from some stock with which she [virtue] has nothing to do." In other words, 
there is no doctrine of ethics more wretchedly unfit to offer to human 
beings than that which seeks to derive virtue from metaphysical sources, 
i.e., sources other than human experience of natural comfort and advantage. 
(In ethics, I believe Butler's preferred line of thinking derives from 
Plato, if not further back: what is good ultimately contributes to human 
wellbeing, vice is in essence its own punishment, as in the hangover.) The 
true, sufficient and only source of virtue is, again, "man's experience 
concerning his own well-being." Prosecuting any other view of ethics, i.e., 
any metaphysical accounting for its origins, is akin to offering decent 
human beings meat fit only for swine.

    The whole passage of "Way of All Flesh" is available here:
http://www.worldwideschool.org/library/books/lit/drama/TheWayofAllFlesh/chap19.html.

    I would expect the Russian treatment of the sequence before the comma to 
go something like "нет худшего метания свинского корма перед человеками, чем 
то, что тщится льстить добродетели, будто ее недостойны ее жe собстсвенные 
истоки, но ей необходима родословная..." ("net khudshego metaniia svinskogo 
korma pered chelovekami, chem to, chto tshchitsia l'stit' dobrodeteli, budto 
ee nedostoiny ee zhe sobstvennye istoki, no ei neobkhodima 
rodoslovnaia...").

Best wishes to all,

Tim Sergay 

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From Alexandra.Smith at ED.AC.UK  Thu Jan 18 23:59:15 2007
From: Alexandra.Smith at ED.AC.UK (Alexandra Smith)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:59:15 +0000
Subject: Translation question
In-Reply-To: <019101c73b56$ec2eba20$0302a8c0@blackie>
Message-ID: <THU.18.JAN.2007.235915.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

"net khudshego metaniia svinskogo korma pered
> chelovekami, chem to, chto tshchitsia l'stit' dobrodeteli, budto ee   
> nedostoiny ee zhe sobstvennye istoki, no ei neobkhodima   
> rodoslovnaia...").---

Why not to be more bold and say: stoit li metat' biser pered  
svin'iami? eto podobno..., etc.?....

All best,
Alexandra




==========================
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Lecturer in Russian
School of European Languages and Cultures
The University of Edinburgh
David Hume Tower
George Square
Edinburgh EX8 9JX
UK

tel. +44-(0)131-6511381
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From lemelinc at DICKINSON.EDU  Thu Jan 18 21:30:29 2007
From: lemelinc at DICKINSON.EDU (Christopher Lemelin)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:30:29 -0500
Subject: politeness survey
In-Reply-To: <45AFC60C.9070403@fas.harvard.edu>
Message-ID: <THU.18.JAN.2007.163029.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

On Jan 18, 2007, at 2:10 PM, Patricia Chaput wrote:

> I find this topic very interesting and hope that you will let  
> participants know where they can learn about your results.

I second Prof. Chaput's request....

CWL
========================
Christopher W. Lemelin
Assistant Professor of Russian
Dickinson College
lemelinc at dickinson.edu

(On sabbatical 2006-2007)





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From kbtrans at COX.NET  Fri Jan 19 01:31:40 2007
From: kbtrans at COX.NET (Kim Braithwaite)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:31:40 -0800
Subject: Translating TY-VY; pre-glasnost literary realism
Message-ID: <THU.18.JAN.2007.173140.0800.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I'd like to request anyone's expert input, not terribly urgent, on two topics. I will be grateful for communication via seelangs or to me personally at kbtrans at cox.net:

 

(1) When translating a short story or a novel, what are some good ways to convey in English the subtleties of familiarity/affection (or over-familiarity or disdain) as expressed by the various uses of ty/tebya..., versus respect/formality (or obsequiousness), as expressed by vy/vas...? I realize that the "subtleties" are on a sliding scale, and in many passages there's no need to spell it out explicitly in the English. In other contexts it makes a big difference, and the difficulties are compounded when one or both parties to a dialogue switch back and forth in a game of one-upmanship (or perhaps just playfulness). Also, what about the nice custom of people agreeing to be friends and switch from vy/vas to ty/tebya...?



(2) I've never read much Russian literature, either the classics or popular contemporary works, but I have read a lot of Georgian stories and novels. And in the 1970s and early 1980s - before the full advent of glasnost - I was struck by what seemed to be an increasing trend toward frank depiction of the bleaker and nastier aspects of life in Soviet Georgia. Many of the protagonists of high or low status, even "sympathetic" ones, were shown to be mean-spirited, tyrannical, ready to stoop to anything for their own gain, material or otherwise. Corruption was shown to be always blatant or lurking just below the surface. My question: Were things being portrayed the same way in Russian stories and novels around that time? My hunch is that they were. How about other languages?

 

Thanks for your comments!

 

Mr Kim Braithwaite, Translator

 

                "Good is better than Evil, because it's nicer" - Mammy Yokum (Al Capp)

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From s-hill4 at UIUC.EDU  Fri Jan 19 09:28:36 2007
From: s-hill4 at UIUC.EDU (Prof Steven P Hill)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 03:28:36 -0600
Subject: Prykarpatska's survey
Message-ID: <FRI.19.JAN.2007.032836.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear colleagues and Prof. Prykarpatska:

This brief note is from one of the busy people, who have not yet tried to
 fill in the survey.  When I read today that the survey questions are "open 
ended", I understood such a survey is not for me (a busy person).  I am 
probably not alone.

If Prof Prykarpatska will REVISE AND RE-ANNOUNCE her survey, so that 
each little question will be very specific and very limited ("yes, no, does 
not apply"), then I will glad to try to respond to it.  

Best wishes,
Steven P Hill,
University of Illinois.
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[mailto:SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu] On Behalf Of Iryna Prykarpatska 
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 9:21 PM 
To: SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu 
Subject: [SEELANGS] Help with a survey 

Dear SEELANGERS, 

Could you please help me to collect the empirical data for the project 
"Culture-specific differences in realization of polite speech acts in 
American English and Ukrainian". The collected data will be used in teaching 
English  as a foreign language to  Ukrainians. All you need is just to 
complete a questionnaire provided below. 
There is just one requirement - the questionnaire has to be completed only 
by those whose native language is American English. 
Please forward this message to your American colleagues. This is a link to 
the questionnaire: 

http://wms.mat.agh.edu.pl/~yarchyk/survey/survey.php?surveyid=4 

Thank you very much 
Best regards, 
Iryna Prykarpatska 
Jagiellonian University 
Poland 
__ __ ___ __ ___ _ __ __ ___ __ _ 

Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:00:10 +0100 
From: Iryna Prykarpatska <iradzeva at GMAIL.COM> 
Subject: Re: Help with a survey 

Yes I have, iradzeva at gmail.com -  it is my personal email address.  
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From brifkin at TEMPLE.EDU  Fri Jan 19 13:33:48 2007
From: brifkin at TEMPLE.EDU (=?windows-1252?Q?Benjamin_Rifkin?=)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 08:33:48 -0500
Subject: Current Prices
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Dear SEELANGers:

Can someone please tell me where I can find on the web information about 
current prices for basic foodstuffs in major Russian cities (e.g., a store 
with prices marked on line).  

Thanks for helping me keep up to date.

Ben Rifkin

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From sbpearl1 at VERIZON.NET  Fri Jan 19 15:05:27 2007
From: sbpearl1 at VERIZON.NET (STEPHEN PEARL)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 07:05:27 -0800
Subject: SEELANGS Digest - 18 Jan 2007 (#2007-28)
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The problem of ty vs.vy, the subject of the first of Kim Braithwaite's two queries, is one I address in the Translator's Note to my recently published translation of "Oblomov". What follows is an expanded version of the relevant excerpt.
   
  "The Problem of “You”.
   
        One of the most fascinating aspects of comparative language study is the way in which, with respect to one and the same universal reality, one language feels it necessary to make distinctions which another language is content to do without.
   
        Spanish need two versions of “corner” [“rincon”, “esquina”] – not to mention the verb “to be” [“ser”, “estar”], where English has one.
  French has two words for “year” [“an”, “annee”] and “day” [“jour”, “journee”]; English has one. Chinese has six or more words for different kinds of “uncle” and at least the same number for the different kinds of “carrying”. Russian has two words for “blue”,and at least three for brother-in-law. English, on the other hand, compared with other languages, is peculiarly rich in words for ambulation or getting from A to B on two feet [“amble”,“stroll”,“saunter”,“sidle” “lurch”, just to name a few]. Other languages have to struggle to catch up by using adverbs or paraphrase.
   
        However, when it comes to the matter of “you”, English, in comparison with almost all other European languages is truly the maverick, the odd man out. English alone stuggles along manfully with but a single version of “you”. Clearly where there is such a strong consensus in favor of two versions of “you” on the other side, the distinction must be a useful, if not a necessary one. 
   
        In Russian, like most of the other languages in question, use is made of what is grammatically a singular and a plural version, although the uses to which these pronouns are put are by no means necessarily just grammatical. Russian, like many of the other languages, also uses these two versions “ty” [singular] and “vy”[plural] to convey distinctions of respect or deference due to superior status of age or rank. Broadly speaking “vy” is used when speaking to one’s elders and betters and “ty” to one’s juniors and inferiors. When two people of comparable station interact, the choice of “ty” or “vy” will often depend on the degree of familiarity.
   
        One of the most appealing features of “Oblomov” is its humor and irony, humor ranging from glinting and subtle to something close to farce or knockabout, when Oblomov and his manservant, Zakhar, are on stage. Here the stumbling block of the British-American divide arises in a special way. There are two competing models for the dialogue between master and servant.  On the one hand, there is the Britain of Dickens with its landed gentry and its servants – the “upstairs-downstairs” model – where the relations between the two classes, and hence the language of the exchanges between them, was clearly delineated, formal and cold to the point of frigidity. On the other hand there is the land-owning and plantation-owning gentry of the America of Mark Twain and their slaves.
   
        The relations between slave and master in the U.S and between serf and master in Russian in roughly the same part of the nineteenth century had much more in common with each other than either had with the British master-servant model of the same period. The former were marked by the same paradoxical blend of familiarity, even intimacy, often born in both cases of a shared childhood, and brutality and even outright cruelty. 
   
        Oblomov and Zakhar were in very real sense family members. These bonds were strengthened further both by their shared roots in the ancestral Oblomov household and by the fact that by the time their story begins, they were the only surviving members of it, with memories they could share only with each other. Their master-servant relationship was complicated by their older brother-younger brother relationship where the servant was the older and the master the younger brother. Their mutual dependence was well-nigh total, although not necessarily symmetrical. If one was parasitic on the other, it would have been hard to say which was the ivy and which the oak. Like all cohabiting family members, they could each see right through the other’s poses and artifices to their hidden vulnerabilities and knew instinctively which buttons to push in both attack and defence.
   
        The language of Zakhar’s exchanges with his master could be impudent, even insolent to the very limits of insubordination, but it would have been unthinkable for him to have transgressed to the point of addressing him as “ty”, or ever making him the subject of anything but a plural verb – another token of the proper deference. Equally unthinkable was the possibility of Oblomov ever addressing Zakhar as “Vy” or making him the subject of a verb in the plural. Thus, no matter how insubordinate the content, these lines were clearly drawn and never crossed.
   
         English lacks the means of conveying this crucial notion, at least directly, but part of the art and craft of translation is to find ways of transferring the semantic and other charges carried by the vocabulary, grammar and syntax of the sentence in the original language to other forms and parts of the sentence in the target language. Thus,in British restaurants at least, waiters and waitresses, without realizing that they are instinctively and ingeniously solving what is in essence a knotty translation problem, will compensate for having to use the equalizing “you” to their customers, by resorting to such locutions as : ”Were you wanting/ would you be wanting another beer?” or “ Would madam prefer the lamb?”, and making the deferential verb tense or the switch to the third person do the work that the “vous”,and the “vy” would be doing in their respective languages.
   
        It was with some regret that this translator dismissed the possibility of using the closest available equivalent to the missing “vy”, namely “yourself” or “your honour” [analogous to the Spanish “vuestra merced” which in the form of “Usted” has now become the standard form of the formal second person] These were the forms traditionally favored by Irish retainers of bygone times for addressing, and referring to, their Anglo masters and mistresses. Doing so would have meant unaccountably and bizarrely placing the whole novel, lock, stock and barrel, in a nineteenth century Irish setting. The price was too high.
   
        At one point in my career, this was a problem I was simply incapable of solving in a high pressure simultaneous interpretation setting. I was interpreting an extensive interview with Manuel Noriega from his Florida jail for ABC TV’s “20/20”. His interviewer was the young and attractive Diane Sawyer. Noriega started out circumspectly while he was feeling out his opponent and used “Usted” in addressing her. Later, clearly feeling he had taken the measure of the opposition, he switched to “tu”. There was no way in the circumstances that I could convey to the English listening audience the subtle manner in which Noriega had now declared himself master of the situation. With hindsight I might have signaled the shift by initially translating “Usted” as “Ms. Sawyer” and then switching to “you”, when Noriega switched to “tu”.
   
      I hope this sheds some light for Kim Braithwaite. Stephen Pearl
   
  

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There are 4 messages totalling 204 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

1. Translation question ("swine's meat before men")
2. Translation question
3. politeness survey
4. Translating TY-VY; pre-glasnost literary realism

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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:18:11 -0500
From: "Timothy D. Sergay" <tsergay at COLUMBUS.RR.COM>
Subject: Re: Translation question ("swine's meat before men")

Dear colleagues,

I think the key to the figure "swine's meat" is the archaic English 
sense of "meat": "food of any kind" (New Oxford American English 
Dictionary). The philosophic topic is the derivation of virtue, that is, the 
tracing of our knowledge of the good to its proper roots, specifically, the 
question of whether those roots lie in some metaphysical realm or in the 
realm of natural and common human experience. Butler argues strongly for the 
latter. As for Butler's figure in its context, I believe the rhetoric of 
"casting swine's meat before men" would parse logically as follows: it is a 
satirical reversal of the Gospel figure "to cast pearls before swine" that 
operates by redistributing the attributes "worthy" and "unworthy" between 
two elements: (1) the thing cast (i.e., offered) and (2) the party BEFORE 
whom (1) is cast (i.e., the party TO whom [1] is offered). Pigs, or more 
precisely, the category "swinish," functions as a metaphor for 
"unworthiness" in both cases. In the Gospel, element 1, pearls, something of 
great worth, is cast before swine (unworthy recipients); in Butler's figure, 
element 1, "swine's meat," is something unworthy of men (worthy recipients): 
it is "meat fit for swine". If you cast "swine's meat before men," you offer 
men something unworthy of them, unfit for human consumption. In Butler, 
then, element 1, the thing offered, is ethical theories that seek to derive 
virtue from something other than "man's experience concerning his own 
well-being," namely, "a lineage, deduced as it were by spiritual heralds, 
from some stock with which she [virtue] has nothing to do." In other words, 
there is no doctrine of ethics more wretchedly unfit to offer to human 
beings than that which seeks to derive virtue from metaphysical sources, 
i.e., sources other than human experience of natural comfort and advantage. 
(In ethics, I believe Butler's preferred line of thinking derives from 
Plato, if not further back: what is good ultimately contributes to human 
wellbeing, vice is in essence its own punishment, as in the hangover.) The 
true, sufficient and only source of virtue is, again, "man's experience 
concerning his own well-being." Prosecuting any other view of ethics, i.e., 
any metaphysical accounting for its origins, is akin to offering decent 
human beings meat fit only for swine.

The whole passage of "Way of All Flesh" is available here:
http://www.worldwideschool.org/library/books/lit/drama/TheWayofAllFlesh/chap19.html.

I would expect the Russian treatment of the sequence before the comma to 
go something like "íåò õóäøåãî ìåòàíèÿ ñâèíñêîãî êîðìà ïåðåä ÷åëîâåêàìè, ÷åì 
òî, ÷òî òùèòñÿ ëüñòèòü äîáðîäåòåëè, áóäòî åå íåäîñòîéíû åå æe ñîáñòñâåííûå 
èñòîêè, íî åé íåîáõîäèìà ðîäîñëîâíàÿ..." ("net khudshego metaniia svinskogo 
korma pered chelovekami, chem to, chto tshchitsia l'stit' dobrodeteli, budto 
ee nedostoiny ee zhe sobstvennye istoki, no ei neobkhodima 
rodoslovnaia...").

Best wishes to all,

Tim Sergay 

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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:59:15 +0000
From: Alexandra Smith <Alexandra.Smith at ED.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Translation question

"net khudshego metaniia svinskogo korma pered
> chelovekami, chem to, chto tshchitsia l'stit' dobrodeteli, budto ee 
> nedostoiny ee zhe sobstvennye istoki, no ei neobkhodima 
> rodoslovnaia...").---

Why not to be more bold and say: stoit li metat' biser pered 
svin'iami? eto podobno..., etc.?....

All best,
Alexandra




==========================
Alexandra Smith (PhD, University of London)
Lecturer in Russian
School of European Languages and Cultures
The University of Edinburgh
David Hume Tower
George Square
Edinburgh EX8 9JX
UK

tel. +44-(0)131-6511381
fax: +44- (0)131 650-3604
e-mail: Alexandra.Smith at ed.ac.uk

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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:30:29 -0500
From: Christopher Lemelin <lemelinc at DICKINSON.EDU>
Subject: Re: politeness survey

On Jan 18, 2007, at 2:10 PM, Patricia Chaput wrote:

> I find this topic very interesting and hope that you will let 
> participants know where they can learn about your results.

I second Prof. Chaput's request....

CWL
========================
Christopher W. Lemelin
Assistant Professor of Russian
Dickinson College
lemelinc at dickinson.edu

(On sabbatical 2006-2007)





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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:31:40 -0800
From: Kim Braithwaite <kbtrans at COX.NET>
Subject: Translating TY-VY; pre-glasnost literary realism

I'd like to request anyone's expert input, not terribly urgent, on two topics. I will be grateful for communication via seelangs or to me personally at kbtrans at cox.net:



(1) When translating a short story or a novel, what are some good ways to convey in English the subtleties of familiarity/affection (or over-familiarity or disdain) as expressed by the various uses of ty/tebya..., versus respect/formality (or obsequiousness), as expressed by vy/vas...? I realize that the "subtleties" are on a sliding scale, and in many passages there's no need to spell it out explicitly in the English. In other contexts it makes a big difference, and the difficulties are compounded when one or both parties to a dialogue switch back and forth in a game of one-upmanship (or perhaps just playfulness). Also, what about the nice custom of people agreeing to be friends and switch from vy/vas to ty/tebya...?



(2) I've never read much Russian literature, either the classics or popular contemporary works, but I have read a lot of Georgian stories and novels. And in the 1970s and early 1980s - before the full advent of glasnost - I was struck by what seemed to be an increasing trend toward frank depiction of the bleaker and nastier aspects of life in Soviet Georgia. Many of the protagonists of high or low status, even "sympathetic" ones, were shown to be mean-spirited, tyrannical, ready to stoop to anything for their own gain, material or otherwise. Corruption was shown to be always blatant or lurking just below the surface. My question: Were things being portrayed the same way in Russian stories and novels around that time? My hunch is that they were. How about other languages?



Thanks for your comments!



Mr Kim Braithwaite, Translator



"Good is better than Evil, because it's nicer" - Mammy Yokum (Al Capp)

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From renee at ALINGA.COM  Fri Jan 19 19:59:00 2007
From: renee at ALINGA.COM (Renee Stillings)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 14:59:00 -0500
Subject: a few calendars left
Message-ID: <FRI.19.JAN.2007.145900.0500.>

Dear SEELANGERS,

 

We have about 20 calendars left. Many of you have probably already received
copies (and we hope you like them!) but if you have not and would still like
to request one for yourself or a colleague, drop me a note at
rstillings at sras.org with the mailing address.

 

Regards,

Renee

www.sras.org <http://www.sras.org/> 

 


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From donna.orwin at UTORONTO.CA  Fri Jan 19 20:17:54 2007
From: donna.orwin at UTORONTO.CA (Donna Orwin)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:17:54 -0500
Subject: Research materials in Russia
In-Reply-To: <03ca01c6c652$598f4fa0$6500a8c0@INSPIRON8600>
Message-ID: <FRI.19.JAN.2007.151754.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Tuan,

Thanks.  Cliff is in Ottawa today.  We'll talk over the choices when he
gets back, and I'll email you.

Best, Donna

----------------------------
Prof. Donna Tussing Orwin
President, Tolstoy Society
Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures
University of Toronto
Alumni Hall 415
121 St. Joseph St. 
Toronto. ON M5S 1J4
Tel. 416-926-1300. ext. 3316


-----Original Message-----
From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
[mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of David Powelstock
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 9:21 PM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Research materials in Russia

Dear Jules (and anyone else interested),

Such services already exist. One I used some years ago is Russkii
kur'er:
www.edd.ru (English home page at http://www.edd.ru/eng/e_Home.htm). I
was
completely satisfied with their services and thought the prices
reasonable.
I take their continued existence as a hopeful sign of continued
reliability.
(If anyone else has positive or negative experiences with them, I'd love
to
hear about it offline at powelstock at brandeis.edu. I'll anonymize and
summarize any data I receive for the list.)

Regards to all,
David Powelstock

-----Original Message-----
From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
[mailto:SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu] On Behalf Of Jules Levin
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 8:35 PM

It has occurred to me that if it is feasible to photocopy pages from
such
materials in Russia (in 1981 I actually was shown a 19th C. St.
Petersburg
address book in the Lenin Library reading room), someone there could
earn
something charging for the service.  I would be happy to post
information on
the Jewishgen list.
Jules Levin

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From donna.orwin at UTORONTO.CA  Fri Jan 19 20:59:13 2007
From: donna.orwin at UTORONTO.CA (Donna Orwin)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:59:13 -0500
Subject: Research materials in Russia
In-Reply-To: <000201c73c06$e73b6c10$6500a8c0@IBMDorwin>
Message-ID: <FRI.19.JAN.2007.155913.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

My apologies to the list for mistakenly posting a private communication.



----------------------------
Prof. Donna Tussing Orwin
President, Tolstoy Society
Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures
University of Toronto
Alumni Hall 415
121 St. Joseph St. 
Toronto. ON M5S 1J4
Tel. 416-926-1300. ext. 3316


-----Original Message-----
From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
[mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of Donna Orwin
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:18 PM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Research materials in Russia

Dear Tuan,

Thanks.  Cliff is in Ottawa today.  We'll talk over the choices when he
gets back, and I'll email you.

Best, Donna

----------------------------
Prof. Donna Tussing Orwin
President, Tolstoy Society
Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures
University of Toronto
Alumni Hall 415
121 St. Joseph St. 
Toronto. ON M5S 1J4
Tel. 416-926-1300. ext. 3316


-----Original Message-----
From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
[mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of David Powelstock
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 9:21 PM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Research materials in Russia

Dear Jules (and anyone else interested),

Such services already exist. One I used some years ago is Russkii
kur'er:
www.edd.ru (English home page at http://www.edd.ru/eng/e_Home.htm). I
was
completely satisfied with their services and thought the prices
reasonable.
I take their continued existence as a hopeful sign of continued
reliability.
(If anyone else has positive or negative experiences with them, I'd love
to
hear about it offline at powelstock at brandeis.edu. I'll anonymize and
summarize any data I receive for the list.)

Regards to all,
David Powelstock

-----Original Message-----
From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
[mailto:SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu] On Behalf Of Jules Levin
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 8:35 PM

It has occurred to me that if it is feasible to photocopy pages from
such
materials in Russia (in 1981 I actually was shown a 19th C. St.
Petersburg
address book in the Lenin Library reading room), someone there could
earn
something charging for the service.  I would be happy to post
information on
the Jewishgen list.
Jules Levin

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From soroka at FAS.HARVARD.EDU  Sat Jan 20 01:27:28 2007
From: soroka at FAS.HARVARD.EDU (George Soroka)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:27:28 -0500
Subject: N. Fedorov quote
Message-ID: <FRI.19.JAN.2007.202728.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Hello,

    First of all, I wanted to say that while I am new to the list and have very
much enjoyed the discussions taking place here.

    I was hoping someone could help me confirm/find the source of a quote
attributed to N. Fedorov, the Russian futurist/philosopher. It is something
along the lines of Russia being an autocracy tempered by holy foolishness,
though I would like to find, if possible, the wording in the original. Thank
you.

--
George Soroka
Ph.D. Candidate
Dept. of Government
Harvard University
Cambridge, MA 02138

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From emilka at MAC.COM  Sat Jan 20 05:38:13 2007
From: emilka at MAC.COM (Emily Saunders)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 21:38:13 -0800
Subject: Current Prices
In-Reply-To: <LISTSERV%200701190833489230.025D@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
Message-ID: <FRI.19.JAN.2007.213813.0800.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I googled dostavka na dom (доставка на дом) and found a supermarket  
delivery service at:  http://mobilefood.ru/index.php

At first glance the prices seem to be what I remember from when my  
husband and I lived in Moscow 2003-2004.  I'm sure there are others out  
there.

Regards,

Emily Saunders

On Jan 19, 2007, at 5:33 AM, Benjamin Rifkin wrote:

> Dear SEELANGers:
>
> Can someone please tell me where I can find on the web information  
> about
> current prices for basic foodstuffs in major Russian cities (e.g., a  
> store
> with prices marked on line).
>
> Thanks for helping me keep up to date.
>
> Ben Rifkin
>
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From Alexandra.Smith at ED.AC.UK  Sat Jan 20 10:40:12 2007
From: Alexandra.Smith at ED.AC.UK (Alexandra Smith)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 10:40:12 +0000
Subject: POST ON AMNESTY'S RUSSIA TEAM
In-Reply-To: <1169256448.45b170008de57@webmail.fas.harvard.edu>
Message-ID: <SAT.20.JAN.2007.104012.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

POST ON AMNESTY'S RUSSIA TEAM
Campaigner (Russia)

Salary: £25,680 per annum
Duration: Fixed term contract until March 2008
Hours: 35 hours per week
Location: Clerkenwell, central London
Closing date: 07 February 2007
Ref. no: ECA/07/03

Amnesty International needs a campaigner for its team working on the  
Russian Federation to help develop strategies and actions to mobilize  
the organization's worldwide membership to campaign effectively  
against human rights violations there. You will act as a focal point  
to provide advice to membership on actions, develop campaigning  
materials for them, and help organize other campaigning events. You  
must have a broad knowledge of the Russian Federation. You will also  
need campaigning experience, an interest in human rights, sensitivity  
to the cultures and peoples of the region, effective writing and  
communication skills and an understanding of membership organizations.  
You must have fluent English and a good ability to speak, read and  
understand Russian.

Interviews are planned for the 19th and 20th of February 2007.

For further information about this and our other current vacancies,  
and how to apply online, please visit us at www.amnesty.org/jobs fax  
us on 020 7413 5822 or send an A4 SAE (42p) to the Recruitment Team,  
HR Programme, 1 Easton Street, London WC1X 0DW. CV's will not be  
accepted.



=========================================
Alexandra Smith (PhD, University of London)
Lecturer in Russian
School of European Languages and Cultures
The University of Edinburgh
David Hume Tower
George Square
Edinburgh EX8 9JX
UK

tel. +44-(0)131-6511381
fax: +44- (0) 650-3604
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From Alexandra.Smith at ED.AC.UK  Sat Jan 20 14:06:21 2007
From: Alexandra.Smith at ED.AC.UK (Alexandra Smith)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 14:06:21 +0000
Subject: Symposium: From Russia with Death (Frontpage articles)
In-Reply-To: <1169256448.45b170008de57@webmail.fas.harvard.edu>
Message-ID: <SAT.20.JAN.2007.140621.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear colleagues,

Some of you might be interested in the symposium on Litvinenko and  
Politkovskaya   organised by the Frontpagemac.com. It was published on  
the internet  
yesterday:http://www.frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=26509
The list of discussants includes Professor Richard Pipes, former  
Soviet general Oleg Kalugin,and Vladimir Bukovsky.

All best,
Alexandra Smith


==========================================
Alexandra Smith (PhD, University of London)
Lecturer in Russian
School of European Languages and Cultures
The University of Edinburgh
David Hume Tower
George Square
Edinburgh EX8 9JX
UK

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fax: +44- (0)131- 650-3604
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From darancourlaferriere at COMCAST.NET  Sat Jan 20 06:06:14 2007
From: darancourlaferriere at COMCAST.NET (Daniel Rancour-Laferriere)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 22:06:14 -0800
Subject: Many thanks
Message-ID: <FRI.19.JAN.2007.220614.0800.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

19 Jan 07

Dear Colleagues,

Many thanks to all of you who responded (both on-list and off-list) to 
the translation question about Samuel Butler.  I have forwarded all your 
responses to the Moscow colleague who raised the question, and I am sure 
she will be most grateful for your assistance.

With regards to the list,

Daniel Rancour-Laferriere

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From Dtsavslavic at AOL.COM  Sat Jan 20 20:44:08 2007
From: Dtsavslavic at AOL.COM (David Savignac)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 15:44:08 EST
Subject: Slavic (historical) linguistics books available
Message-ID: <SAT.20.JAN.2007.154408.EST.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear SEELANGSers,
 
I am in the process of making room  in my library and have about 60  mostly 
antiquarian books -- mainly Slavic historical linguistics -- that I am  ready 
to part with.  Books by Meillet, Leskien, Shakhmatov, Mikkola, etc.;  
collections of essays; the Slovar' russkikh narodnykh govorov as published to  date -- 
that sort of thing.  If you are in the market for such, please  send me an 
e-mail OFF LIST to _dsavignac at aol.com_ (mailto:dsavignac at aol.com)  and I'll email 
you a list  of what I have.  
 
My email occasionally acts weird, so if you get a Daemon, just give me a  
call.  What doesn't get purchased will be donated to a University.
 
David Savignac
Crofton, MD
410-721-3896
 
 

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From atacama at GLOBAL.CO.ZA  Sat Jan 20 22:08:14 2007
From: atacama at GLOBAL.CO.ZA (Vera Beljakova)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 00:08:14 +0200
Subject: Cellphone jargon
Message-ID: <SUN.21.JAN.2007.000814.0200.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Thank you to everyone for making the discussion on
cellphone jargon so
interesting.

Vera Beljakova
Johannesburg

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From karlahuebner at COMPUSERVE.COM  Sun Jan 21 18:42:22 2007
From: karlahuebner at COMPUSERVE.COM (karlahuebner@compuserve.com)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:42:22 -0500
Subject: SHERA?
Message-ID: <SUN.21.JAN.2007.134222.0500.>

I had no luck contacting Karen Kettering when I wanted to join last summer.
If I remember correctly, the email bounced. Might I suggest that SHERA (and
some of the other smaller Slavic organizations) use a downloadable PDF
application that one could print, fill out, and mail in? There were two or
three organizations I wanted to join that I could not because emails to the
contact people did not go through and there was no downloadable application
form.

Karla Huebner
University of Pittsburgh


At 09:11 PM 1/17/2007, you wrote:

At 21:49 11.01.2007, you wrote:

Does anyone know what has become of SHERA (that¹s Society of Historians of
East European and Russian Art and Architecture, not She-Ra)?  I¹ve attempted
to contact the (last-known) officers regarding renewing my lapsed
membership, but have heard nothing.  Perhaps the society is now defunct?
Any information will be much appreciated.

Thank you.

Kristen

Our contact and membership person used to be Karen Kettering at the
Hillwood Museum in DC. <kkettering at hillwoodmuseum.org>
As far as I know, we are not defunct.

Kris Groberg, Ph.D.
324D division of Fine Arts
NDSU Box 5691
Fargo, ND 58105-5691


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From blokman2002 at YAHOO.COM  Sun Jan 21 06:28:31 2007
From: blokman2002 at YAHOO.COM (James Brewczynski)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 22:28:31 -0800
Subject: Current Prices
In-Reply-To: <33f689c814bb37267d875b7035255074@mac.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.20.JAN.2007.222831.0800.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Another well-known grocery outlet in Moscow with home delivery is Sedmoi Kontinent:
  http://dostavka.7cont.ru/
   
  There you will find a catalog of products with prices
   
  I never ordered from their delivery service so can't say if the prices are higher than in the store (they do offer free delivery for over 1500 rubles). Their in-store prices seemed in line with most larger, full service grocers.
   
  JJ

Emily Saunders <emilka at MAC.COM> wrote:
  I googled dostavka na dom (ÄÏÓÔÁ×ËÁ ÎÁ ÄÏÍ) and found a supermarket 
delivery service at: http://mobilefood.ru/index.php

At first glance the prices seem to be what I remember from when my 
husband and I lived in Moscow 2003-2004. I'm sure there are others out 
there.

Regards,

Emily Saunders

On Jan 19, 2007, at 5:33 AM, Benjamin Rifkin wrote:

> Dear SEELANGers:
>
> Can someone please tell me where I can find on the web information 
> about
> current prices for basic foodstuffs in major Russian cities (e.g., a 
> store
> with prices marked on line).
>
> Thanks for helping me keep up to date.
>
> Ben Rifkin
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
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From aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU  Mon Jan 22 02:52:52 2007
From: aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU (Alina Israeli)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:52:52 -0500
Subject: Current Prices
In-Reply-To: <66406.82097.qm@web54107.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SUN.21.JAN.2007.215252.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Here are a variety of prices, some may be of use:

http://travel.sea.ru/tour11.htm
http://www.emmausfest.ru/price.html
http://24-7-365.ru/
http://abc.ru/


Alina Israeli
LFS, American University
4400 Massachusetts Ave., NW
Washington DC. 20016
(202) 885-2387 	
fax (202) 885-1076
aisrael at american.edu




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From cosmoschool2 at MAIL.RU  Mon Jan 22 07:10:20 2007
From: cosmoschool2 at MAIL.RU (Natasha Bodrova)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 10:10:20 +0300
Subject: Summer Camp in SIBERIA
Message-ID: <MON.22.JAN.2007.101020.0300.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Colleagues,

The Educational Center "COSMOPOLITAN", located in Novosibirsk, the largest city in Siberia, Russia, is still accepting applications for participation in the "LINKING THE PLANET" International Summer Language Camp. One can participate in the program as either a volunteer teacher/workshop coordinator/camp counselor or as an international student of the Russian course. Many of the teaching positions have been filled now because quite a lot of people have taken advantage of an early-bird application opportunity and signed up for the program before January 1st. At the same time, there are still a few volunteer teacher's vacancies available at each of the four summer sessions of the camp, and the number of international student's positions is not limited at this point. 

Could you please inform your students and colleagues about the program that we offer and advise them to take advantage of this unique cultural opportunity. 

The Summer Camp will be taking place in a picturesque area outside of the largest Siberian city of Novosibirsk, during the summer 2007 in four consecutive two-week sessions, with participation of local Russian children, youth and adults, as well as volunteer teachers and international students from around the globe. 

The program is a great chance for international participants to learn the Russian language and get a first-hand experience of the Russian culture. It provides the unique cultural opportunity of daily interaction with the Russian children, youth and the teaching staff. The RUSSIAN COURSE is organized for overseas students and volunteer teachers and includes language studies as well as learning about the Russian culture, history and society.

We are looking for native speakers of English, German, French, Spanish and other languages, who would like to participate in the Summer Camp as VOLUNTEER TEACHERS of their language or Volunteer Creativity Workshop Coordinators or VOLUNTEER CAMP COUNCELORS. No previous teaching experience is required. University students are eligible to apply as volunteer teachers/workshop coordinators/camp counselors. Teaching at the camp can be considered as an INTERNSHIP with all necessary paperwork and an on-site internship supervision provided. We are looking for people who are energetic, enthusiastic, open-minded, sociable, enjoy camp experiences, are willing to share their knowledge and culture. 

We also seek people worldwide (middle school through university STUDENTS, and ADULTS) to join the Summer Camp as international students of the Russian course and enjoy all the exciting activities scheduled within the program.

The major benefits to join our summer program are as follows:
1) You don't have to be a professional teacher in order to
volunteer for the program. The most important aspect is your willingness to
participate and share your knowledge and culture, as well as your enthusiasm
and good will. Teaching at the camp is not like an academic teaching routine, it's more like fun where emphasis is
made on communication. Our school will provide you with the daily topical schedule for the classes and will be happy to assist with lesson planning and teaching materials. University students are eligible to apply as volunteer teachers. You will gain valuable practical experience, proven ability and contacts that you can use to get a future job.  
2) This is a not-for-profit program. Volunteer teachers/workshop coordinators and international students pay for their living and meals expenses, international students' fee also includes intensive tuition in the Russian language and culture. (Teachers/workshop coordinators/camp counselors do not have to pay for the Russian course, it is provided by our school as a benefit for their volunteer teaching). Participation fee covers expenses on accommodation in a recreation center and ALL meals. If you come to Russia (Siberia) on your own or through a travel agency you will spend much more money compared to what you would pay to participate in our
program. Participating in our program you won't need much pocket
money, just maybe some to buy souvenirs and gifts to take back home.
All the local services (airport pick-up, local transportation, excursions)
are provided by our school without any additional payment.
3) Russian course is organized for ALL international participants of the program. Russian classes are taught by well-educated native
speakers trained to teach foreigners. You will be placed in a group
according to your level of Russian. No previous knowledge of Russian is
required. Peculiarity of our Russian courses for
international students consists in combination of intensive tuition and
extensive social and cultural programs, and this is what makes our Russian
studies programs different from the ones offered by other schools. In
addition to the in-class tuition our course also includes dynamic "live and
learn" intercultural conversational sessions which allow to gain language
practice in real life situatons. We also offer workshops related to the
Russian culture and traditions.
4) We organize an exciting cultural, social and excursion program for all 
international participants of the camp, which is a very enriching experience.
You will be involved in interaction with the Russian children, youth and
adults all the time. This is the kind of experience you will never get if
you go as a tourist.
5) You will gain a first-hand experience of the Russian culture and life
style and particularly the Siberian one. They say if you want to know what
real Russia is like you should go to Siberia.
6) If you are planning a trip to Russia and would like to consider our
program you should take into consideration that if you do go to Russia you
will need an invitation to receive the Russian visa in any case. All travel
agencies and tourist companies charge for an invitation. As far as our
program is concerned, you won't have to pay anything extra for the official
invitation form that you will need to get the Russian visa. We provide all our foreign participants with the
invitation and arrange their registration on arrival.
7) You will meet people from other countries who are going to participate in
this program and this is a very interesting experience. Many of our former
foreign participants keep in touch with each other after the program and
even visit each other in all the different countries.
8) We also offer excursion packages which include trips to Moscow, St.
Petersburg, Novosibirsk, Krasnoyarsk, Lake Baikal, the Altai Mountains, TransSiberian Railroad, 'Welcome to
Siberia' program. All the details and tour descriptions are available at request.


* Have you always wanted to add some meaning to an overseas adventure?
* Do you want a new, challenging experience?

* Do you like to meet people from other countries and get your energy from working towards a goal as part of a team?

* Are you willing to gain experience, improve communication abilities, and develop skills that will help in your future employment?

* Have you ever daydreamed about gaining insight into the Russian culture and life in a way no traveler could?

 

If 'yes' is the answer, our program  is the best way for you to spend your summer vacation! For further details please email cosmopolitan at online.nsk.su  or cosmoschool2 at mail.ru 


Regards,

 

Natasha Bodrova,

 

Director of the Educational Center "Cosmopolitan",

 

Novosibirsk, Russia

 

cosmopolitan at online.nsk.su



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From Kristi.Groberg at NDSU.EDU  Mon Jan 22 13:37:54 2007
From: Kristi.Groberg at NDSU.EDU (Kristi Groberg)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:37:54 -0600
Subject: N. Fedorov quote
In-Reply-To: <1169256448.45b170008de57@webmail.fas.harvard.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.22.JAN.2007.073754.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

At 19:27 19.01.2007, you wrote:
>  I was hoping someone could help me confirm/find the source of a quote
>attributed to N. Fedorov, the Russian futurist/philosopher. It is something
>along the lines of Russia being an autocracy tempered by holy foolishness,
>though I would like to find, if possible, the wording in the original. Thank
>you.

Hi, check with George Young, a Fedorov scholar, at University of New England.

Kris Groberg 

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From douglas at NYU.EDU  Mon Jan 22 13:54:46 2007
From: douglas at NYU.EDU (Charlotte Douglas)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:54:46 -0500
Subject: SHERA?
In-Reply-To: <380-220071021184222123@M2W004.mail2web.com>
Message-ID: <MON.22.JAN.2007.085446.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

The Shera list serv address is: shera at lists.oakland.edu

The moderator is: machmutj at oakland.edu

Charlotte Douglas
douglas at nyu.edu


>I had no luck contacting Karen Kettering when I wanted to join last summer.
>If I remember correctly, the email bounced. Might I suggest that SHERA (and
>some of the other smaller Slavic organizations) use a downloadable PDF
>application that one could print, fill out, and mail in? There were two or
>three organizations I wanted to join that I could not because emails to the
>contact people did not go through and there was no downloadable application
>form.
>
>Karla Huebner
>University of Pittsburgh
>
>
>At 09:11 PM 1/17/2007, you wrote:
>
>At 21:49 11.01.2007, you wrote:
>
>Does anyone know what has become of SHERA (that's Society of Historians of
>East European and Russian Art and Architecture, not She-Ra)?  I've attempted
>to contact the (last-known) officers regarding renewing my lapsed
>membership, but have heard nothing.  Perhaps the society is now defunct?
>Any information will be much appreciated.
>
>Thank you.
>
>Kristen
>
>Our contact and membership person used to be Karen Kettering at the
>Hillwood Museum in DC. <kkettering at hillwoodmuseum.org>
>As far as I know, we are not defunct.
>
>Kris Groberg, Ph.D.
>324D division of Fine Arts
>NDSU Box 5691
>Fargo, ND 58105-5691
>
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From douglas at NYU.EDU  Mon Jan 22 14:01:39 2007
From: douglas at NYU.EDU (Charlotte Douglas)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 09:01:39 -0500
Subject: PS SHERA
Message-ID: <MON.22.JAN.2007.090139.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Shera also has a handy website with an archive of messages:

http://lists.oakland.edu/pipermail/shera

Charlotte

>I had no luck contacting Karen Kettering when I wanted to join last summer.
>If I remember correctly, the email bounced. Might I suggest that SHERA (and
>some of the other smaller Slavic organizations) use a downloadable PDF
>application that one could print, fill out, and mail in? There were two or
>three organizations I wanted to join that I could not because emails to the
>contact people did not go through and there was no downloadable application
>form.
>
>Karla Huebner
>University of Pittsburgh
>
>
>At 09:11 PM 1/17/2007, you wrote:
>
>At 21:49 11.01.2007, you wrote:
>
>Does anyone know what has become of SHERA (that's Society of Historians of
>East European and Russian Art and Architecture, not She-Ra)?  I've attempted
>to contact the (last-known) officers regarding renewing my lapsed
>membership, but have heard nothing.  Perhaps the society is now defunct?
>Any information will be much appreciated.
>
>Thank you.
>
>Kristen
>
>Our contact and membership person used to be Karen Kettering at the
>Hillwood Museum in DC. <kkettering at hillwoodmuseum.org>
>As far as I know, we are not defunct.
>
>Kris Groberg, Ph.D.
>324D division of Fine Arts
>NDSU Box 5691
>Fargo, ND 58105-5691
>
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From sforres1 at SWARTHMORE.EDU  Mon Jan 22 14:04:48 2007
From: sforres1 at SWARTHMORE.EDU (Sibelan E S Forrester)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 09:04:48 -0500
Subject: CFP in Slavic Linguistics!
Message-ID: <MON.22.JAN.2007.090448.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

*****************************************************************************************

CALL FOR PANEL PROPOSALS!

PLEASE ADVERTISE AS WIDELY AS POSSIBLE!

In view of the fact that the Slavic Linguistics Society (SLS) is 
meeting this year in August in Berlin, and as a way of stimulating 
participation by linguists in American Association of Teachers of 
Slavic and East European Languages (AATSEEL), SLS will sponsor a 
winter meeting at AATSEEL 2007 (Chicago, 28-30 December). We would 
like to function as an affiliate of AATSEEL and to follow their 
deadlines and guidelines as much as possible. Here is the plan:

What do I need? Send your panel proposals directly to AATSEEL Program 
Committee chair Bill Comer (wjcomer at ku.edu), but please also copy 
Steven Franks at franks at indiana.edu. It would help if you can do this 
by 31 January if possible; later declarations can of course be made, 
but this deadline will ensure fuller publicity and help to avoid 
conflicts.

What does this mean? All we require at this point is your name, 
contact information, and the title of the panel you intend to 
organize. This information will be posted on the AATSEEL and SLS web 
sites.

What happens next? It is your job to fill the proposed panel. You 
will eventually need to obtain an abstract for each paper, where the 
abstract should conform to standard AATSEEL guidelines. Each panel 
will last two hours. There are several options: you can select three 
abstracts or four abstracts. If you select three abstracts, you 
should have a discussant (which could be you, but then someone else 
must ultimately be assigned to chair the panel). If you select four, 
you are ordinarily expected to chair it, but if you cannot (either 
because you cannot attend the meeting or you are organizing more than 
one panel, since you can only chair one), then all you need to do is 
organize the panel and a chair will be assigned later.

Who can present? Anyone who is a member of SLS or AATSEEL. AATSEEL 
will waive membership for SLS panel presenters who are not in 
departments of Slavic Languages // Russian // Modern Languages and 
Literatures. Of course, all participants must however register for 
the AATSEEL conference.

What if you get more than four good abstracts? You do not need to 
turn these away. There are two straightforward options. You can 
either break your topic into two panels (although you would only be 
able personally to chair one of them). Alternatively, you could 
advise authors of those you cannot accept to submit them directly to 
AATSEEL. Please remind them the AATSEEL Program Committee needs to 
receive abstracts submitted directly to them by 1 August.

What to do with the abstracts of the papers you want in your 
panel(s)? You should send these as a set to the AATSEEL Program 
Committee (specifically, Linguistics Division head Grant Lundberg 
grant_lundberg at byu.edu) by 1 August. It is your responsibility to 
ensure high quality abstracts, so you are encouraged to work with the 
presenters to submit appropriate abstracts. Official confirmation 
will be received from AATSEEL Program Committee by 1 September. 
AATSEEL will schedule papers and notify participants of their time 
slots by 20 September. If an abstract requires some revision, the 
revised version must be received by the program committee by 1 
October in order to be published on the web site and in the program 
book.

PLEASE PASS THIS INFORMATION ON TO YOUR COLLEAGUES, PLEASE POST TO 
YOUR DISTRIBUTION LISTS, AND OTHERWISE DISSEMINATE AS BROADLY AS 
POSSIBLE!

Steven Franks

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From anthony.j.vanchu at NASA.GOV  Mon Jan 22 14:53:33 2007
From: anthony.j.vanchu at NASA.GOV (Vanchu, Anthony J. (JSC-AH)[TTI])
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:53:33 -0600
Subject: N. Fedorov quote
In-Reply-To: A<7.0.1.0.0.20070122073721.01be85c8@ndsu.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.22.JAN.2007.085333.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

For help with finding your Fedorov quote, you might also try Michael Hagemeister:  Michael.Hagemeister at unibas.ch

Besides German and Russian, his English is superb, if that matters.

He's also the author of:  Nikolaj Fedorov: Studien zu Leben, Werk und Wirkung, München: Sagner, 1989, a book that you might want to have a look at in any event.

Snail mail address:
Dr. Michael Hagemeister 
Universität Basel
Historisches Seminar 
Hirschgässlein 21 
4051 Basel 

Tel: 061 295 96 66 
FAX: 061 295 96 40

*****
One word of caution about looking for a direct "quote" from Fedorov:  if memory serves correct (it's been a while since I've delved into Fedorov myself), most of his works are actually collections of notes from his students, so you will most likely not be getting a true quote, but an attribution to an idea or ideas of his as recalled in the notes of his students.

Finally, you might also want to look at Svetlana Semyonova's Nikolai Fedorov:  Tvorchestvo zhizni where you might be able to find what you need.

Hope something among the above will be of use for you.

Tony Vanchu

Dr. Anthony J. Vanchu
Director, JSC Language Education Center
TechTrans International, Inc.
NASA Johnson Space Center
Houston, TX
Phone:  (281) 483-0644
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From karlahuebner at COMPUSERVE.COM  Mon Jan 22 15:26:45 2007
From: karlahuebner at COMPUSERVE.COM (karlahuebner@compuserve.com)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 10:26:45 -0500
Subject: PS SHERA
Message-ID: <MON.22.JAN.2007.102645.0500.>

Thanks!

Karla Huebner

Original Message:
-----------------
From: Charlotte Douglas douglas at NYU.EDU
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 09:01:39 -0500
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: [SEELANGS] PS SHERA


 
Shera also has a handy website with an archive of messages:

http://lists.oakland.edu/pipermail/shera

Charlotte

>I had no luck contacting Karen Kettering when I wanted to join last summer.
>If I remember correctly, the email bounced. Might I suggest that SHERA (and
>some of the other smaller Slavic organizations) use a downloadable PDF
>application that one could print, fill out, and mail in? There were two or
>three organizations I wanted to join that I could not because emails to the
>contact people did not go through and there was no downloadable application
>form.
>
>Karla Huebner
>University of Pittsburgh
>
>
>At 09:11 PM 1/17/2007, you wrote:
>
>At 21:49 11.01.2007, you wrote:
>
>Does anyone know what has become of SHERA (that's Society of Historians of
>East European and Russian Art and Architecture, not She-Ra)?  I've
attempted
>to contact the (last-known) officers regarding renewing my lapsed
>membership, but have heard nothing.  Perhaps the society is now defunct?
>Any information will be much appreciated.
>
>Thank you.
>
>Kristen
>
>Our contact and membership person used to be Karen Kettering at the
>Hillwood Museum in DC. <kkettering at hillwoodmuseum.org>
>As far as I know, we are not defunct.
>
>Kris Groberg, Ph.D.
>324D division of Fine Arts
>NDSU Box 5691
>Fargo, ND 58105-5691
>
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From Elena_Baraban at UMANITOBA.CA  Mon Jan 22 15:52:32 2007
From: Elena_Baraban at UMANITOBA.CA (Elena_Baraban at UMANITOBA.CA)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 09:52:32 -0600
Subject: CFP: Canadian Association of Slavists
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CANADIAN ASSOCIATION OF SLAVISTS
ANNUAL CONFERENCE

May 26-28, 2007
(Saturday – Monday)

- Deadline reminder:

University of Saskatchewan
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan

The annual conference of the Canadian Association of Slavists will take place 
in Saskatoon (Saskatchewan) on May 26-28, 2007 as part of the Congress of the 
Humanities and Social Sciences Federation. 

The theme of the 2007 Congress is BRIDGING COMMUNITIES.
The goals of the conference are to encourage the study of Slavic societies, 
cultures, languages, and literatures and to establish connections among 
scholars working in these areas. There will be parallel sections that will 
focus on literature, linguistics, film, folklore, history, music, sociology, 
religious studies, international relations, political science, and cultural 
studies.
Proposals are invited for individual papers, panels, and roundtable 
discussions.  Proposals for complete panels are preferred. Please follow 
abstract specifications (see below) when submitting your proposal(s). 
We particularly want to encourage young scholars to participate in this 
conference. Deadline for proposals:  1 February, 2007. Notifications of the 
Organizing Committee’s decisions will be sent out by 1 March 2007. Audio-
visual equipment will be provided upon request. The deadline for A-V equipment 
requests is 10 March, 2007.

Each paper will be allowed thirty minutes (including 10 minutes for 
discussion). Presentations should be in English. All presenters must be 
members of CAS. 

Abstract specifications:
To apply for participation in the conference, please submit an individual 
paper proposal, a roundtable proposal, or a panel proposal form; and your CV). 
The text of the abstract should be sent in an attached file. This file should 
not include the author's name. The abstracts should not exceed 400 words. 
Please use MS Word for Windows and Times New Roman or MS Word for Apple and 
TimesCE or pure Unicode text. Make sure to use the Library of Congress 
transliteration system to render words in a Cyrillic alphabet. Your abstract 
should present a hypothesis and outline your plan for defending that 
hypothesis, i.e. it should specify research question(s), an approach/method to 
the data, and theoretical framework. Each abstract will be anonymously 
reviewed by independent reviewers. If electronic submission is not possible, 
send hard copies of your proposal to 

Elena Baraban, Ph.D. 
Assistant Professor of Russian 
Room 325, Fletcher Argue Bldg. 
German and Slavic Studies 
University of Manitoba 
Winnipeg, MB 
Canada  R3T 2N2. 

Please, do not hesitate to contact us for further details or questions 
(baraban at cc.umanitoba.ca; (204) 474-9735).

For information about registration, accommodation, special events, and the 
conference program, please consult the following web sites:
 
http://www.ualberta.ca/~csp/cas/association.html 

http://www.ualberta.ca/~csp/cas/conference.html



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From anthony.j.vanchu at NASA.GOV  Mon Jan 22 19:15:31 2007
From: anthony.j.vanchu at NASA.GOV (Vanchu, Anthony J. (JSC-AH)[TTI])
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:15:31 -0600
Subject: Current Prices
In-Reply-To: A<66406.82097.qm@web54107.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <MON.22.JAN.2007.131531.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

You might also check out Ramstore:  http://www.ramstore.ru/  They also
have a flier that supposedly can be downloaded in .pdf file form.  I
wasn't able to on my first try and haven't had time to get back to it.

One thing comes to mind about the other two places mentioned, namely,
students should be made aware who among the Russian populace would be
most likely to shop in those stores.  Although it's been a while since
I've been to a Sed'moi kontinent store, during my previous visits I saw
only foreigners and rather well heeleed Russians; perhaps just a
coincidence, but worth noting.  The wares were certainly higher end.  On
the other hand, both websites are well organized and could be easily
used for web-based exercises.

My two cents.

Tony

Dr. Anthony J. Vanchu
Director, JSC Language Education Center
TechTrans International, Inc.
NASA Johnson Space Center
Houston, TX
Phone:  (281) 483-0644
Fax:  (281) 483-4050

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From dmbethea at WISC.EDU  Mon Jan 22 20:56:29 2007
From: dmbethea at WISC.EDU (DAVID M BETHEA)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:56:29 -0600
Subject: Oxford Pushkin Seminar
Message-ID: <MON.22.JAN.2007.145629.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Pushkin Seminar at Oxford University, July 8-15, 2007


The editors of a new Pushkin edition are organizing a one-week seminar at Oxford University to take place July 8-15, 2007.  The purpose of the seminar is to acquaint younger generation scholars (advanced students, graduate students, recent Ph.D.’s) with the editing principles of the new edition and to recruit potential editors/commentators for future volumes.  While participants are not required to be Pushkin specialists or native Russians, they should have a solid knowledge of the Pushkin era and fluency in the language.  The seminar will be convened at Wadham College and expenses will be paid – room, board, and travel – for the participants.  Five places at the seminar will be set aside for participants on a competitive basis.  Those interested should submit a cover letter, cv, writing sample, and one-two letters of support from senior scholars to: Oxford Pushkin Seminar Screening Committee, The Pushkin Center, University of Wisconsin-Madison, Madison, WI 53706; electronic
 submissions (with the subject heading “Oxford Pushkin Seminar”) are also possible at pushkin at slavic.wisc.edu.  The application deadline is March 15, 2007, with notification of the final results of the competition to take place by April 15, 2007.  All completed applications will be acknowledged.

The co-organizers of the seminar are David Bethea (Wisconsin, Oxford), Alexander Dolinin (Wisconsin, St. Petersburg), and Alexander Ospovat (UCLA, Moscow).  Over the past several years they have been directly involved in the editorship of Sochineniia Pushkina (Moscow: Novoe izdatel’stvo, 2006-), the first volume of which, Poemy i povesti (part one), has recently appeared.  Volume 2, Boris Godunov, is now in production and will appear in the spring.  Additional volumes are in the planning stages.  In the preface to Poemy i povesti David Bethea (the general editor) explains the rationale for the new edition: the “Pushkin House” tradition of textology, while fruitful for much of the twentieth century, now needs to be modified by an approach that looks at the given work from various angles simultaneously: compositional history, the physical text as Pushkin approved it, literary and historical contexts, native and foreign sources, contemporary commentary, etc.

The seminar will be conducted by leading Pushkinists from around the world.  The tentative schedule is: Sunday, July 8 (arrival and orientation); Monday, July 9 (reference works, archives, textology: Alexander Dolinin, Alexander Ospovat, Maria Virolainen, Oleg Proskurin); Tuesday, July 10 (“Andzhelo”: Alexander Dolinin); Wednesday, July 11 (Ruslan i Liudmila: Oleg Proskurin); Thursday, July 12 (Boris Godunov: Maria Virolainen); Friday, July 13 (Kapitanskaia dochka: Alexander Opsovat); Saturday, July 14 (summaries, future plans).  Local Oxford academics and students will also be participating in the seminar’s activities.

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From jwilson at ALINGA.COM  Tue Jan 23 07:01:53 2007
From: jwilson at ALINGA.COM (Josh Wilson)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:01:53 +0300
Subject: Current Prices
In-Reply-To: <292558FA7545964CBC439F3D15BAB06A013021FC@NDJSEVS11.ndc.nasa.gov>
Message-ID: <TUE.23.JAN.2007.100153.0300.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

This is quite true - the prices at any of these websites will be higher than
normal. If you are looking at a delivery service, they are likely to be much
higher than the average. 

I encourage the students on our study abroad programs to shop at the rynoki
- not only do they get more language practice that way, but they get better
products for half the price... most of the folks who claim Moscow is so
fabulously expensive shop in these western-style stores. The folks who
survive in Moscow on $300 a month shop in the rynoki.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
[mailto:SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu] On Behalf Of Vanchu, Anthony J.
(JSC-AH)[TTI]
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 10:16 PM
To: SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Current Prices

You might also check out Ramstore:  http://www.ramstore.ru/  They also
have a flier that supposedly can be downloaded in .pdf file form.  I
wasn't able to on my first try and haven't had time to get back to it.

One thing comes to mind about the other two places mentioned, namely,
students should be made aware who among the Russian populace would be
most likely to shop in those stores.  Although it's been a while since
I've been to a Sed'moi kontinent store, during my previous visits I saw
only foreigners and rather well heeleed Russians; perhaps just a
coincidence, but worth noting.  The wares were certainly higher end.  On
the other hand, both websites are well organized and could be easily
used for web-based exercises.

My two cents.

Tony

Dr. Anthony J. Vanchu
Director, JSC Language Education Center
TechTrans International, Inc.
NASA Johnson Space Center
Houston, TX
Phone:  (281) 483-0644
Fax:  (281) 483-4050

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From emilka at MAC.COM  Tue Jan 23 07:17:20 2007
From: emilka at MAC.COM (Emily Saunders)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 23:17:20 -0800
Subject: Translating Russian high school credits into the UK system
Message-ID: <MON.22.JAN.2007.231720.0800.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Hello,

I have a former ESL student of mine who is applying to a UK university 
and is having difficulty with getting her transcripts to match the U.K. 
requirements.  Can anyone assist or advise as to what in the Russian 
system would qualify as A level exams?  This is a somewhat urgent 
request as she is facing an application deadline.  She's an extremely 
bright, motivated, and talented student and I would really like to help 
her out with this.  Any advice as to how she might best proceed would 
be greatly appreciated!

Thank you in advance!

Emily Saunders

P.S.  I've included a copy of the correspondence from the student for 
reference as to what I know of her situation.

Begin forwarded message:

>
> Hello Emily
>
> my application has been sent for considertion, but i have some prolems 
> concerning my grades. The grading system in UK is different from UK as 
> you know so my Russian Attestat might be not enough. Here are the 
> emails. I would appreciate if you could give me any advice how I could 
> solve this problem...
>
> To:  Alisa Kim
>
> Your UCAS application has been passed to the School for decision.  
> However, on checking NARIC to compare the Russian Attestat with the UK 
> system, it states that this is equivalent only to a GCSE level.  If 
> this is the case, you would not qualify for entry to an undergraduate 
> programme unless you could confirm that you have achieved the 
> equivalent of a UK A level.  Have you omitted to include exam results 
> taken after the Attestat?
>
> I would appreciate your response as we cannot proceed further with 
> your application until we have this further information.
>
>
> To whom it may concern,
>
> My Russsian Attestat is called GCSE. However I received it in my final 
> year of school and the grades are considered when entering the 
> university. I also had 3 special exams needed specifically for 
> university entrance . I took those exams and then received my GCSE, 
> because the results influenced my final grades. I have omitted to 
> include exam results. They are:
>
> Mathematics : 5
> Russian : 5
> Civics : 4
>
> I also took an exam in English and recieved 5. I have no proof of it 
> though, except my final grade in GCSE. The exams mentioned above are 
> based on a general level. All Russian students take them. My school is 
> specialized in English so we didn't take that type of exam in English 
> because the school deemed it too easy for us. So we had a special 
> exam, organised by the staff at my school. The grade for this exam, 
> just like for other exams influenced my final grades. So I do not have 
> any special document proving that I have successfuly passed the exam. 
> Only my final grades.
>
> Thank you for your help on this matter,kind regards.
> Alisa Kim
>
>
>
> To:  Alisa Kim
>
> Thank you for responding to my email so promptly.  You state that the 
> Russian Attestat is called a GCSE.  In the UK the GCSE is an 'O' 
> level; these exams precede 'A' levels.  For entry to the undergraduate 
> Architecture programme an applicant is required to have a minimum 240 
> UCAS points which can be accrued from A levels, AVCEs, BTEC Awards, 
> Certficates or Diplomas.  We also have direct comparisons for the 
> International Baccalaureate, Apolytirions, etc but I am unable to 
> assess whether your Russian studies would qualify you for entry.  If 
> the Attestat is only equivalent to GCSE level then you would 
> definitely not be qualified for entry.  However, if the subsequent 3 
> special exams taken have the effect of raising this level, then that 
> might affect the assessment.
>
> Any additional information you can provide would be appreciated.
>
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From soroka at FAS.HARVARD.EDU  Tue Jan 23 14:30:05 2007
From: soroka at FAS.HARVARD.EDU (George Soroka)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:30:05 -0500
Subject: N. Fedorov quote
In-Reply-To: <292558FA7545964CBC439F3D15BAB06A01301F64@NDJSEVS11.ndc.nasa.gov>
Message-ID: <TUE.23.JAN.2007.093005.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Thanks Tony, especially for the insight about the difficulty in getting "direct"
quotes. I really appreciate your response and will follow up in the manner
suggested. NASA, huh? Pretty cool!

George

Quoting "Vanchu, Anthony J. (JSC-AH)[TTI]" <anthony.j.vanchu at NASA.GOV>:

> For help with finding your Fedorov quote, you might also try Michael
> Hagemeister:  Michael.Hagemeister at unibas.ch
>
> Besides German and Russian, his English is superb, if that matters.
>
> He's also the author of:  Nikolaj Fedorov: Studien zu Leben, Werk und
> Wirkung, München: Sagner, 1989, a book that you might want to have a look at
> in any event.
>
> Snail mail address:
> Dr. Michael Hagemeister
> Universität Basel
> Historisches Seminar
> Hirschgässlein 21
> 4051 Basel
>
> Tel: 061 295 96 66
> FAX: 061 295 96 40
>
> *****
> One word of caution about looking for a direct "quote" from Fedorov:  if
> memory serves correct (it's been a while since I've delved into Fedorov
> myself), most of his works are actually collections of notes from his
> students, so you will most likely not be getting a true quote, but an
> attribution to an idea or ideas of his as recalled in the notes of his
> students.
>
> Finally, you might also want to look at Svetlana Semyonova's Nikolai Fedorov:
>  Tvorchestvo zhizni where you might be able to find what you need.
>
> Hope something among the above will be of use for you.
>
> Tony Vanchu
>
> Dr. Anthony J. Vanchu
> Director, JSC Language Education Center
> TechTrans International, Inc.
> NASA Johnson Space Center
> Houston, TX
> Phone:  (281) 483-0644
> Fax:  (281) 483-4050
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Dept. of Government
Harvard University
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From fomina_brainina at YAHOO.COM  Tue Jan 23 15:23:13 2007
From: fomina_brainina at YAHOO.COM (Maria Fomina)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 07:23:13 -0800
Subject: N. Fedorov quote
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.0.20070122073721.01be85c8@ndsu.edu>
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Dear Kristi,
you can find a most of N. Fedorov  on
anthropology.rchgi.spb.ru/fedorov/fedorov.html . You
can also turn to
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1913;
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&#1052;.:&#1058;&#1088;&#1072;&#1076;&#1080;&#1094;&#1080;&#1103;,
1997
Maria Fomina
--- Kristi Groberg <Kristi.Groberg at NDSU.EDU> wrote:

> At 19:27 19.01.2007, you wrote:
> >  I was hoping someone could help me confirm/find
> the source of a quote
> >attributed to N. Fedorov, the Russian
> futurist/philosopher. It is something
> >along the lines of Russia being an autocracy
> tempered by holy foolishness,
> >though I would like to find, if possible, the
> wording in the original. Thank
> >you.
> 
> Hi, check with George Young, a Fedorov scholar, at
> University of New England.
> 
> Kris Groberg 
> 
>
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From ecruise at MTHOLYOKE.EDU  Tue Jan 23 16:24:11 2007
From: ecruise at MTHOLYOKE.EDU (Edwina Cruise)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 11:24:11 -0500
Subject: Cyrillic fonts
In-Reply-To: <1169562605.45b61bedc6bd8@webmail.fas.harvard.edu>
Message-ID: <TUE.23.JAN.2007.112411.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I have just purchased a new computer, PC, currently working on Windows 
XP, but soon to be ugraded to Windows Vista.  I would like advice on the 
best Cyrillic font software package for XP and Vista.

Edwina Cruise
Mount Holyoke College

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From wochensky.1 at OSU.EDU  Tue Jan 23 16:47:28 2007
From: wochensky.1 at OSU.EDU (Luke Wochensky)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 11:47:28 -0500
Subject: Midwest Slavic Conference Deadline Approaching
Message-ID: <TUE.23.JAN.2007.114728.0500.>

*Proposal Deadline: 31 January 2007*

 

Midwest Slavic Conference

 

12-14 April 2007

 

The Midwest Slavic Association, the Ohio State University Center for Slavic
and East European Studies, and the OSU Office of International Affairs
proudly announce the 2007 Midwest Slavic Conference, to be held at 

the Blackwell Hotel and Conference Center from 12-14 April 2007 on the
campus of Ohio State University.

 

The conference will open with a keynote address and reception on the evening
of Thursday 12 April, followed by two days of academic and business-related
panels. Conference organizers are inviting proposals for panels or
individual papers addressing all disciplines related to Slavic histories,
political science, literatures, linguistics, sociology, economics, and other
fields.  Please send a one-paragraph abstract, along with a brief c.v. to
csees at osu.edu by 31 January 2007.  Persons proposing papers must be willing
to be scheduled either Friday or Saturday.

 

Graduate students are particularly encouraged to submit presentations.
Limited funding will be available to subsidize graduate hotel stays. Foreign
travel will not be supported.  For more information, contact the Center for
Slavic and East European Studies at 614-292-8770 or at csees at osu.edu

 

Luke E. Wochensky

Assistant Director

Center for Slavic and East European Studies

The Ohio State University

303 Oxley Hall

1712 Neil Avenue

Columbus, OH 43210-1219

Phone: (614) 292-8770

Fax: (614) 292-4273

E-mail: wochensky.1 at osu.edu

 


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From iradzeva at GMAIL.COM  Tue Jan 23 19:15:54 2007
From: iradzeva at GMAIL.COM (Iryna Prykarpatska)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:15:54 +0100
Subject: Cyrillic fonts
In-Reply-To: <45B636AB.5070302@mtholyoke.edu>
Message-ID: <TUE.23.JAN.2007.201554.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Just read this: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/PaulGor/
and  http://russian.dmll.cornell.edu/fonts/brtf_win_rusfonts.htm



2007/1/23, Edwina Cruise <ecruise at mtholyoke.edu>:
>
> I have just purchased a new computer, PC, currently working on Windows
> XP, but soon to be ugraded to Windows Vista.  I would like advice on the
> best Cyrillic font software package for XP and Vista.
>
> Edwina Cruise
> Mount Holyoke College
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From iradzeva at GMAIL.COM  Tue Jan 23 19:16:59 2007
From: iradzeva at GMAIL.COM (Iryna Prykarpatska)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:16:59 +0100
Subject: Cyrillic fonts
In-Reply-To: <8a9977930701231115q21671f1ar51b37dc8c5ac513f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.23.JAN.2007.201659.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

and this : http://babel.uoregon.edu/yamada/fonts/russian.html

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From dpbrowne at MAC.COM  Wed Jan 24 10:53:58 2007
From: dpbrowne at MAC.COM (Devin Browne)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 05:53:58 -0500
Subject: "hoodie" in Russian
Message-ID: <WED.24.JAN.2007.055358.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Greetings all!  I need the word for "hoodie," both in French and
Russian.  Hoodie, in this case, being a hooded sweatshirt, zippered or
not.  Are there French and Russian equivalents?

The things that become important to high school students....  :-)

Merci & Spassibo!

Devin

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From nathanlongan at GMAIL.COM  Wed Jan 24 12:20:00 2007
From: nathanlongan at GMAIL.COM (Nathan Longan)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:20:00 +0300
Subject: Current Prices
In-Reply-To: <200701230701.l0N71sR7011567@alinga.com>
Message-ID: <WED.24.JAN.2007.152000.0300.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

You can go to
lenta.com
they don't have lots of food prices on their site, but they'll email you
their catalogue twice a month if you go to the "rassylki" section and sign
up.

Lenta is a very reasonably priced store.  The selection isn't great, but for
basics it is a good place to shop (and they're open 24 hrs so you can avoid
the traffic if you're willing to get up early in the morning).  However,
they, like lots of big stores, expect that most of their customers have
cars.

Some neighborhood "discount" food store chains are:
"Diksi" no site
"Pyatyorochka" http://www.e5.ru/  NO PRICES listed
"Kopeyka" http://www.kopeyka.ru/customers/ A few prices listed
"Polushka" no site

All these places have pretty reasonable prices.

I beg to differ with Mr. Wilson.  The markets (rynki) are not the place to
get good prices.  They are usually very colorful, and the selection is
usually pretty good.  However, except if you're buying potatoes and onions
from the real local producers, almost nothing is locally produced.  That's
hardly surprising given Russia's northern location, but the fruit and
vegetables at the 'rynki' come from the same place that come from at the
grocery stores.  We go to the 'rynki' for our Thanksgiving turkey and
Christmas bird because we know the seller and like the birds she sells (they
are local).  We also buy other things when we're there, but it is very much
a "buyer beware" situation.  Many scales are about 20% underweighted.

It won't win you any friends at the markets, and might get you in trouble,
but if you take a 100 g weight and put it on scales at the market you'll be
shocked how many will show that the weight is 120 g.  I've done it, and am
now very cautious about buying at the rynki.

Nathan

-- 
Nathan Longan, PhD
Resident Director
CIEE Study Center
St. Petersburg, Russia


On 1/23/07, Josh Wilson <jwilson at alinga.com> wrote:
>
> This is quite true - the prices at any of these websites will be higher
> than
> normal. If you are looking at a delivery service, they are likely to be
> much
> higher than the average.
>
> I encourage the students on our study abroad programs to shop at the
> rynoki
> - not only do they get more language practice that way, but they get
> better
> products for half the price... most of the folks who claim Moscow is so
> fabulously expensive shop in these western-style stores. The folks who
> survive in Moscow on $300 a month shop in the rynoki.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
> [mailto:SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu] On Behalf Of Vanchu, Anthony J.
> (JSC-AH)[TTI]
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 10:16 PM
> To: SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu
> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Current Prices
>
> You might also check out Ramstore:  http://www.ramstore.ru/  They also
> have a flier that supposedly can be downloaded in .pdf file form.  I
> wasn't able to on my first try and haven't had time to get back to it.
>
> One thing comes to mind about the other two places mentioned, namely,
> students should be made aware who among the Russian populace would be
> most likely to shop in those stores.  Although it's been a while since
> I've been to a Sed'moi kontinent store, during my previous visits I saw
> only foreigners and rather well heeleed Russians; perhaps just a
> coincidence, but worth noting.  The wares were certainly higher end.  On
> the other hand, both websites are well organized and could be easily
> used for web-based exercises.
>
> My two cents.
>
> Tony
>
> Dr. Anthony J. Vanchu
> Director, JSC Language Education Center
> TechTrans International, Inc.
> NASA Johnson Space Center
> Houston, TX
> Phone:  (281) 483-0644
> Fax:  (281) 483-4050
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From dhh2 at COLUMBIA.EDU  Wed Jan 24 17:15:41 2007
From: dhh2 at COLUMBIA.EDU (Diana Howansky)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:15:41 -0500
Subject: Shevchenko Scientific Society events and fellowships
Message-ID: <WED.24.JAN.2007.121541.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Saturday, January 27

NEW YORK: The Shevchenko Scientific Society invites all to a lecture by 
Dr. Alexander Motyl, professor of political science at Rutgers 
University, on the subject "Ukraine - 2007: What Next?"  The lecture 
will take place (in Ukrainian) at the society's building, 63 Fourth Ave. 
(between Ninth and 10th streets) at 5 p.m.  For additional information, 
call (212) 254-5130.

**********

POSTDOCTORAL FELLOWSHIPS IN UKRAINIAN STUDIES
	
The Shevchenko Scientific Society, Inc. invites applications for the 
Shevchenko Society Postdoctoral Fellowship for the 2007-2008 academic 
year. Funded by generous contributions from the Ukrainian-American 
community, the Shevchenko Postdoctoral Fellowship is intended to support 
aspiring young scholars in the US and Canada who work in the fields of 
Ukrainian philology and linguistics or Ukrainian literature. Other areas 
in Ukrainian studies, such as history and social science, may be 
considered under special circumstances.

The fellowship award will be up to $35,000, commensurate to the 
qualification of a candidate and requires the recipient to be affiliated 
with an accredited North American university, preferably one with a 
program in Ukrainian studies, during the fellowship period. Preference 
will be given to individuals who will have an opportunity to teach in 
the Ukrainian area at their university. The award period is for one 
year, with the potential for renewal during the second year.

Candidates must have recently earned a PhD degree with a concentration 
in Ukrainian subjects. Ideal applicants should have a strong potential 
for developing independent research in Ukrainian philology, linguistics 
or Ukrainian literature and be interested in pursuing a career in 
Ukrainian studies at the university level.

Completed applications must be received before February 1, 2007 and include:

1) fellowship application form printed below
2) a two to three page summary of research interests and goals (see below);
3) curriculum vitae;
4) (optional) a scholarly paper written in the past two years.

Applications are accepted by e-mail at: info at shevchenko.org or by 
regular mail. A reprint of a recent publication can be forwarded 
electronically or mailed separately to:

Fellowship Committee,
Shevchenko Scientific Society, Inc.,
63 Fourth Avenue,
New York, NY 10003

The fellowship award will be announced in April, 2007 by e-mail and 
begin after July 1, 2007.

For more information, please see the webpage: 
http://www.shevchenko.org/grants/grant.php?uid=15 or call (212) 254-5130.

-- 
Diana Howansky
Staff Associate
Ukrainian Studies Program
Columbia University
Room 1208, MC3345
420 W. 118th Street
New York, NY  10027
(212) 854-4697
ukrainianstudies at columbia.edu
http://www.harrimaninstitute.org/courses/ukrainian_studies_program.html

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From emilka at MAC.COM  Wed Jan 24 17:45:14 2007
From: emilka at MAC.COM (Emily Saunders)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:45:14 -0800
Subject: Translating Russian high school credits into the UK system
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.05.10701231028450.10087-100000@joxer.acsu.buffalo.edu>
Message-ID: <WED.24.JAN.2007.094514.0800.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Thank you to all who have written in on this.  Basically the advice was 
to get correct Russian terminology to describe the credits and exams.  
At any rate I have passed on most of the suggestions to my student, who 
in turn wrote to me that she's subsequently been in touch with the 
admissions folks and it seems that they are able to match things up a 
bit better.  Now she's just doing the usual nail biting about how 
they'll consider her application in its entirety.  Thank you so much 
for the help and suggestions!

Emily Saunders

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From dhh2 at COLUMBIA.EDU  Wed Jan 24 17:32:42 2007
From: dhh2 at COLUMBIA.EDU (Diana Howansky)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:32:42 -0500
Subject: Search for Curator at Ukrainian Institute of Modern Art in Chicago
Message-ID: <WED.24.JAN.2007.123242.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

----- Forwarded message from Nicholas Sawicki
<nsawicki at uima-art.org> -----
     Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:04:50 -0600 (CST)
     From: Nicholas Sawicki <nsawicki at uima-art.org>
Reply-To: nsawicki at uima-art.org
  Subject: [Fwd: Position description submission]
       To: nsawicki at uima-art.org

Dear Friends,

I would like to inform you that the Ukrainian Institute of Modern
Art in Chicago has opened a search for a Curator of Collections and
Exhibitions.

A description for the position is attached. I would encourage all of
you to circulate it among colleagues and associates who may be 
interested. The deadline for submitted applications is March 15.

With best wishes,
Nick Sawicki

-- 
Nicholas Sawicki
Chair, Visual Arts Programming
Ukrainian Institute of Modern Art
nsawicki at uima-art.org
www.uima-art.org

----- End forwarded message -----

Curator of Collections and Exhibitions
Ukrainian Institute of Modern Art

The Ukrainian Institute of Modern Art, a non-profit museum and 
exhibition space in Chicago’s Ukrainian Village neighborhood, invites 
applications for the contracted position of Curator of Collections and 
Exhibitions, beginning June 1, 2007.

The Curator will be responsible for overseeing the Institute’s permanent 
collection, which consists of over eight hundred works of art by 
20th-century Ukrainian, Ukrainian diaspora, and central and eastern 
European artists. The collection has particularly strong holdings in 
postwar art and works on paper. The position will require designing and 
implementing policies for the cataloging, care, and expansion of the 
collection; identifying works that require conservation and overseeing 
the hiring of outside contractors for conservation work; responding to 
requests for loans and documentation; and maintaining research files on 
past exhibitors and artists represented in the collection. The Curator 
will also plan and execute five to six temporary exhibitions each year 
on the premises of the Institute. He or she will seek out and field 
potential exhibitors, and will implement and install these exhibitions.

The Curator will report directly to the President, and will oversee 
student interns who will assist in collection care and exhibition 
planning. He or she will also have access to the resources and 
assistance of the Institute’s existing volunteer committees.

The successful candidate will have a strong knowledge of modern and 
contemporary visual art and culture, with a demonstrated interest in 
Ukrainian or central and eastern European art. He or she will have a 
minimum of two years of experience working in a museum or gallery 
environment, and direct experience in exhibition planning and collection 
management. A graduate degree in a related field such as museum or 
curatorial studies, conservation, art history, library science, or arts 
administration is preferred, but applicants with equivalent professional 
experience will be considered. The working language of the Institute is 
English, but preference will be given to candidates who have knowledge 
of Ukrainian, or those who have an interest in learning basic Ukrainian 
language skills. The ideal candidate will have strong relationship 
building skills and will be required to report on his activities on a 
frequent basis to the Institute’s Executive Committee and Board of 
Directors. The annual salary for the position is $32,000 to $40,000, 
contingent on experience. The application is for a seven-month contract 
beginning June 1, 2007, renewable for up to two years pending budgetary 
approval.

Please send a detailed letter of application, curriculum vitae, 
documentation or samples of recent curatorial or writing projects, and 
the names of three professional references by March 15, 2007
to: Search Committee, Ukrainian Institute of Modern Art, 2320 West 
Chicago Avenue, Chicago, IL 60622. No phone calls please.



-- 
Diana Howansky
Staff Associate
Ukrainian Studies Program
Columbia University
Room 1208, MC3345
420 W. 118th Street
New York, NY  10027
(212) 854-4697
ukrainianstudies at columbia.edu
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From byrdc at UGA.EDU  Wed Jan 24 20:48:16 2007
From: byrdc at UGA.EDU (Charles Byrd)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:48:16 -0500
Subject: Terms for Academic Disciplines
Message-ID: <WED.24.JAN.2007.154816.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Colleagues,

Does anyone happen to know current Russian names for the American academic disciplines designated "Environmental Health" and "Special Education"?  

Thanks,

Charles Byrd,

Department of Germanic and Slavic Languages
The University of Georgia
Room 201 Joseph E. Brown Hall
Athens, GA  30602-6797

(706) 583-8160
byrd at uga.edu

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From lgoering at CARLETON.EDU  Wed Jan 24 21:10:53 2007
From: lgoering at CARLETON.EDU (Laura Goering)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:10:53 -0600
Subject: Pique Dame
Message-ID: <WED.24.JAN.2007.151053.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Colleagues,

Can anyone tell me when Pushkin's Pikovaia dama was first translated 
into German?

Reply off-list to lgoering at carleton.edu.

Many thanks,

Laura Goering

-- 
**************************
Laura Goering
Professor of Russian
Chair, Dept. of German and Russian
Carleton College
Northfield, MN 55057
lgoering at carleton.edu

Office: (507) 646-4125
Dept. office: (507) 646-4252
Fax: (507) 646-5942
Home: (507) 663-6142

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From maria.basom at UNI.EDU  Wed Jan 24 21:39:07 2007
From: maria.basom at UNI.EDU (Maria Basom)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:39:07 -0600
Subject: Distance Learning
Message-ID: <WED.24.JAN.2007.153907.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Colleagues,

I had an inquiry from a high school student in a small town in Iowa, who was 
asking about on-line courses in Russian.  She was adopted from Russia in May 
2005 at the age of 13.  She speaks, reads and writes both Russian and 
English.  The distance high school courses her family has investigated would 
allow her to demostrate that she has taken a foreign language, but not help 
her expand her language skills. Are there any distance learning programs 
anyone can recommend (Russian for heritage learners?)?  She could handle 
college level course work (but she does not live near a college); for 
example, she has read all of the Harry Potter books in Russian.

Please respond off-list.
Thanks for your help!!!
Maria

Maria Basom
University of Northern Iowa

maria.basom at uni.edu

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From paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM  Thu Jan 25 00:59:18 2007
From: paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM (Paul B. Gallagher)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 19:59:18 -0500
Subject: Translation question (education field)
Message-ID: <WED.24.JAN.2007.195918.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Anyone here have a good American English equivalent for 
"нормативно-подушевое финансирование" (в вузах и т.п.)?

Context:

Министр образования и науки Андрей Фурсенко:
«Появилась ясность в организации самого образовательного процесса. Нигде 
до недавних пор не были сформулированы требования к учителю, школе и так 
далее. Недавно мы этот пробел устранили. И третье — введение новых 
подходов к финансированию системы. Это в первую очередь 
***нормативно-подушевое финансирование.*** Когда стало понятно, за что 
именно школа получает деньги — а получает она за обучение определенного 
количества учеников с поправками на тип учреждения, — исчезли многие 
неразрешимые, казалось, конфликты. Кроме того, мы доказали, что деньги 
учителю надо платить не только за часы, но еще за количество обучаемых 
им людей и результат.»

Thanks much. Due Thursday morning.

-- 
War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
--
Paul B. Gallagher
pbg translations, inc.
"Russian Translations That Read Like Originals"
http://pbg-translations.com

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From tsergay at COLUMBUS.RR.COM  Thu Jan 25 01:46:40 2007
From: tsergay at COLUMBUS.RR.COM (Timothy D. Sergay)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 20:46:40 -0500
Subject: Translation question (education field)
Message-ID: <WED.24.JAN.2007.204640.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Paul,

I find 21 hits for "standard per-student funding." Plenty for "per-student," 
which seems to me good US education jargon for the podushevoe.

Tim Sergay
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul B. Gallagher" <paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM>
To: <SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 7:59 PM
Subject: [SEELANGS] Translation question (education field)


> Anyone here have a good American English equivalent for 
> "нормативно-подушевое финансирование" (в вузах и т.п.)?
>
> Context:
>
> Министр образования и науки Андрей Фурсенко:
> «Появилась ясность в организации самого образовательного процесса. Нигде 
> до недавних пор не были сформулированы требования к учителю, школе и так 
> далее. Недавно мы этот пробел устранили. И третье — введение новых 
> подходов к финансированию системы. Это в первую очередь 
> ***нормативно-подушевое финансирование.*** Когда стало понятно, за что 
> именно школа получает деньги — а получает она за обучение определенного 
> количества учеников с поправками на тип учреждения, — исчезли многие 
> неразрешимые, казалось, конфликты. Кроме того, мы доказали, что деньги 
> учителю надо платить не только за часы, но еще за количество обучаемых им 
> людей и результат.»
>
> Thanks much. Due Thursday morning.
>
> -- 
> War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
> --
> Paul B. Gallagher
> pbg translations, inc.
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From: nataliek at UALBERTA.CA (nataliek at UALBERTA.CA)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 19:15:46 -0700
Subject: New Issue of Folklorica
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New Issue of Folklorica

We would like to announce the contents of the latest issue of  
FOLKLORICA the Journal of the Slavic and East European Folklore  
Association (Formerly SEEFA Journal) 2006, Vol. XI

ARTICLES

Nineteenth-Century Collectors of Ukrainian Folk Legends:Their Views,  
Objectives, Methods and Their Informants
Roman I. Shiyan						1

Coexistence or Conflict? The Problem of Dual Belief in Polish Folklore
Anna Brzozowska-Krajka					16

 From "Walled-Up Wife" to a "Room of One's Own:" Gender and Migration  
among Macedonians in Germany
Lidija Stojanovi&#263;					28

Rural Stories about Parental Malediction(based on field materials from  
Novgorod and Vologda regions)
Anna Kushkova						50

TEXT PUBLICATION

Qazim Shemaj’s “Veronica’s Dream”: A Contemporary Albanian Fairytale
Kristin Peterson-Bidoshi				78

REVIEWS

Elizabeth Ann Warner (E. E. Uorner). Vladimir Iakovlevich Propp i  
russkaia fol'kloristika.
Jack V. Haney						117

Robert Elsie and Janice Mathie-Heck, eds. and trans. Songs of the  
Frontier Warriors, Këngë Kreshnikësh.
John Kolsti						120

Margaret Paxson.  Solovyovo:  The Story of Memory in a Russian Village.
Sibelan Forrester					123

Marina Balina, Helena Goscilo, and Mark Lipovetsky, eds.Politicizing  
Magic: An Anthology of Russian and Soviet Fairy Tales.
Natalie Kononenko					126

Jack V. Haney.  The Complete Russian Folktale, Vol. 6: Russian Tales  
of Love and Life.Jack V. Haney.  The Complete Russian Folktale, Vol.  
7: Russian Tales of Clever Fools.
Andreas Johns						129

The Snow Maiden and Other Russian Tales (World Folklore Series).  
Translated and retold by Bonnie C. Marshall
John Hill						133

OBITUARY

In Memory of Evgenii Alekseevich Kostiukhin
Tatyana Ivanova.
(Translated by James Bailey and Faith Wigzell)		136




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From marc at ADLERPACIFIC.COM  Thu Jan 25 02:20:36 2007
From: marc at ADLERPACIFIC.COM (Marc Adler)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 20:20:36 -0600
Subject: Translation question (education field)
In-Reply-To: <45B800E6.4000609@pbg-translations.com>
Message-ID: <WED.24.JAN.2007.202036.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Paul B. Gallagher(e)k dio:

> Anyone here have a good American English equivalent for 
> "нормативно-подушевое финансирование" (в вузах и т.п.)?

"No Child Left Behind"? <g>

This is just a guess, but "financing on a per-student basis predicated 
on normative guidelines for scholastic achievement" might be something 
natural. I don't know if you could achieve the same compression as the 
Russian, so introducing it once and then just saying "this kind of 
financing" (or coming up with a shorter variant) throughout the rest of 
the text might be an option.

As I say, there might be a standard American-English way of saying this 
that I just don't know, however, so - to repeat - this is just a guess.

-- 
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marc at adlerpacific.com

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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:58:23 -1000
Subject: REMINDER: 2007 Pragmatics & Language Learning Conference -
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Our apologies for any cross-postings . . .


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From paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM  Thu Jan 25 11:23:14 2007
From: paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM (Paul B. Gallagher)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 06:23:14 -0500
Subject: Translation question (education field)
In-Reply-To: <02f001c74022$a9294b70$0302a8c0@blackie>
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Thanks to all who responded, both on- and off-list.

I went with "standardized per-student funding";
"standard" sounded too much like "нормальный, обычный."

The entire interview can be found at 
<http://www.mon.gov.ru/news/interview/ministr/3036/>.

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From d344630 at ER.UQAM.CA  Thu Jan 25 14:05:18 2007
From: d344630 at ER.UQAM.CA (Saskia Ouaknine)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 09:05:18 -0500
Subject: "hoodie" in Russian
In-Reply-To: <4b269ac0701240253l84700fcg7f28985517035851@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <THU.25.JAN.2007.090518.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Devin,

It's a "Kangourou", in French.

Saskia Ouaknine


Surlignage Devin Browne <dpbrowne at MAC.COM>:

> Greetings all!  I need the word for "hoodie," both in French and
> Russian.  Hoodie, in this case, being a hooded sweatshirt, zippered or
> not.  Are there French and Russian equivalents?
> 
> The things that become important to high school students....  :-)
> 
> Merci & Spassibo!
> 
> Devin
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From vbelyanin at GMAIL.COM  Thu Jan 25 14:50:19 2007
From: vbelyanin at GMAIL.COM (Valery Belyanin)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 09:50:19 -0500
Subject: Leningrad cowboys
Message-ID: <THU.25.JAN.2007.095019.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Hello everybody
for those who are interested in how a documentary film can be combined with
rock and weird outfit and for those who want the name Leningrad back it will
be interesting to watch a 5 min song of Leningrad cowboys.
This is really awful. Do not watch it in the morning and before going to
bed:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXP7ZeuW_T4

-- 
Yours truly, Валерий Белянин / Valery Belyanin,


From anthony.j.vanchu at NASA.GOV  Thu Jan 25 14:50:52 2007
From: anthony.j.vanchu at NASA.GOV (Vanchu, Anthony J. (JSC-AH)[TTI])
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 08:50:52 -0600
Subject: "hoodie" in Russian
In-Reply-To: A<1169733918.45b8b91e66936@courriel1.sitel.uqam.ca>
Message-ID: <THU.25.JAN.2007.085052.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

kengurukha or kengurushka

You can find kengurkha at the following sites:
http://www.pinq.ru/wear_theory_wear.htm

http://shop.ice-cream.ws/index.php?productID=297&PHPSESSID=eb9dc43236113
c2906d628323cf8c189

Tony Vanchu

Dr. Anthony J. Vanchu
Director, JSC Language Education Center
TechTrans International, Inc.
NASA Johnson Space Center
Houston, TX
Phone:  (281) 483-0644
Fax:  (281) 483-4050


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 8:05 AM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] "hoodie" in Russian

Devin,

It's a "Kangourou", in French.

Saskia Ouaknine


Surlignage Devin Browne <dpbrowne at MAC.COM>:

> Greetings all!  I need the word for "hoodie," both in French and 
> Russian.  Hoodie, in this case, being a hooded sweatshirt, zippered or

> not.  Are there French and Russian equivalents?
> 
> The things that become important to high school students....  :-)
> 
> Merci & Spassibo!
> 
> Devin
> 
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From Alexandra.Smith at ED.AC.UK  Thu Jan 25 15:11:55 2007
From: Alexandra.Smith at ED.AC.UK (Alexandra Smith)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 15:11:55 +0000
Subject: Sokurov's Madam Bovary
In-Reply-To: <6e5389890701250650k40a6943do31d9fc59521e0600@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <THU.25.JAN.2007.151155.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear colleagues,

A colleague of mine who teaches French and European cinema at the  
University of Edinburgh is very keen to find a copy of Sokurov's film  
based on the novel "Madame Bovary". The film was produced in 1989; the  
title is "Spasi i sokhrani". It received several international prizes  
and was severely criticised in Russia for being asocial and  
indifferent to the aesthetic needs of the perestroika period. I've  
found a few interesting responses to this film in various Russian  
journals, etc. but I can't find any references to a DVD or VHS copy of  
this film. My colleague would like to obtain a copy of it for one of  
her postgraduate courses.
I will appreciate your help very much.

All very best,
Sasha Smith



=========================================
Alexandra Smith (PhD, University of London)
Lecturer in Russian
School of European Languages and Cultures
The University of Edinburgh
David Hume Tower
George Square
Edinburgh EX8 9JX
UK

tel. +44-(0)131-6511381
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From monniern at MISSOURI.EDU  Thu Jan 25 15:17:00 2007
From: monniern at MISSOURI.EDU (Nicole Monnier)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 09:17:00 -0600
Subject: Leningrad cowboys
In-Reply-To: <6e5389890701250650k40a6943do31d9fc59521e0600@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <THU.25.JAN.2007.091700.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

And disturbing in yet a different way is their (the Leningrad Cowboys')
rendition of "Sweet Home Alabama with the Red Army Choir:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt2YuLds48k

Not for the faint of heart, indeed . . .

Nicole


****************************
Dr. Nicole Monnier
Assistant Professor of Instruction
Director of Undergraduate Studies (Russian)
German & Russian Studies
415 GCB
University of Missouri
Columbia, MO 65211

phone: 573.882.3370



On 1/25/07 8:50 AM, "Valery Belyanin" <vbelyanin at GMAIL.COM> wrote:

> Hello everybody
for those who are interested in how a documentary film can be
> combined with
rock and weird outfit and for those who want the name Leningrad
> back it will
be interesting to watch a 5 min song of Leningrad cowboys.
This
> is really awful. Do not watch it in the morning and before going
> to
bed:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXP7ZeuW_T4

-- 
Yours truly, Валерий
> Белянин / Valery Belyanin,

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From Kristi.Groberg at NDSU.EDU  Thu Jan 25 15:21:20 2007
From: Kristi.Groberg at NDSU.EDU (Kristi Groberg)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 09:21:20 -0600
Subject: Leningrad cowboys
In-Reply-To: <C1DE260C.8F77%monniern@missouri.edu>
Message-ID: <THU.25.JAN.2007.092120.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

At 09:17 25.01.2007, you wrote:
>And disturbing in yet a different way is their (the Leningrad Cowboys')
>rendition of "Sweet Home Alabama with the Red Army Choir:
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt2YuLds48k

Thanks, this made my day. I haven't laughed so hard for quite a 
while. The poor Red Army Chorus.
Kris Groberg

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From asred at COX.NET  Thu Jan 25 15:36:02 2007
From: asred at COX.NET (Steve Marder)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 10:36:02 -0500
Subject: "hoodie" in Russian
Message-ID: <THU.25.JAN.2007.103602.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

---- "Vanchu wrote: 
> kengurukha or kengurushka
> 
> You can find kengurkha at the following sites:
> http://www.pinq.ru/wear_theory_wear.htm
> 
> http://shop.ice-cream.ws/index.php?productID=297&PHPSESSID=eb9dc43236113
> c2906d628323cf8c189

Quite true, although it's important to point out that "kengurushka" also (if not primarily) serves to denote "baby sling."

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From tbuzina at YANDEX.RU  Thu Jan 25 15:37:32 2007
From: tbuzina at YANDEX.RU (Tatyana Buzina)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 18:37:32 +0300
Subject: Sokurov's Madam Bovary
In-Reply-To: <20070125151155.iihul3dz34k80w0c@www.staffmail.ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <THU.25.JAN.2007.183732.0300.>

Hello,
apparently, it has not been released officially. THere's a bootleg copy floating out there, unfortunately, from what I found, it can be ordered in Russia only. If your friend has friends in Russia who'd be willing to help him/her, it would be possible to order it in SPb and then mail it on to Edinburgh. 
Here's the link for what it's worth.

http://videoprokat.spb.ru/catalogue/film/id9085

Good luck,
Tatyana

>Dear colleagues,
>
>A colleague of mine who teaches French and European cinema at the  
>University of Edinburgh is very keen to find a copy of Sokurov's film  
>based on the novel "Madame Bovary". The film was produced in 1989; the  
>title is "Spasi i sokhrani". It received several international prizes  
>and was severely criticised in Russia for being asocial and  
>indifferent to the aesthetic needs of the perestroika period. I've  
>found a few interesting responses to this film in various Russian  
>journals, etc. but I can't find any references to a DVD or VHS copy of  
>this film. My colleague would like to obtain a copy of it for one of  
>her postgraduate courses.
>I will appreciate your help very much.
>
>All very best,
>Sasha Smith
>
>
>
>=========================================
>Alexandra Smith (PhD, University of London)
>Lecturer in Russian
>School of European Languages and Cultures
>The University of Edinburgh
>David Hume Tower
>George Square
>Edinburgh EX8 9JX
>UK
>
>tel. +44-(0)131-6511381
>fax: +44- (0)131- 650-3604
>e-mail: Alexandra.Smith at ed.ac.uk
>
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From emilka at MAC.COM  Thu Jan 25 16:17:27 2007
From: emilka at MAC.COM (Emily Saunders)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 08:17:27 -0800
Subject: "hoodie" in Russian
In-Reply-To: <5585317.1169739362117.JavaMail.root@eastrmwml04.mgt.cox.net>
Message-ID: <THU.25.JAN.2007.081727.0800.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

On Jan 25, 2007, at 7:36 AM, Steve Marder wrote:

>
> Quite true, although it's important to point out that "kengurushka" 
> also (if not primarily) serves to denote "baby sling."
>

This could be just an isolated usage, but my friends in Vladivostok 
used the term "kenguryatnik" to denote a baby sling (and possibly 
snugli).

Emily Saunders

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From asred at COX.NET  Thu Jan 25 16:33:29 2007
From: asred at COX.NET (Steve Marder)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 11:33:29 -0500
Subject: "hoodie" in Russian
Message-ID: <THU.25.JAN.2007.113329.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

> This could be just an isolated usage, but my friends in Vladivostok 
> used the term "kenguryatnik" to denote a baby sling (and possibly 
> snugli).

It's fair to say that different people understand such words differently, and there may be all kinds of regional variants. "Kenguryatnik," for example, is commonly used in the sense of "'roo' bars," "bull bars," "crash bars (on an off-road vehicle)" etc., and "kengurushnik" can also refer to "(baby) sling." Where does one draw the line, and where (and when!) does one stop?

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From tbuzina at YANDEX.RU  Thu Jan 25 16:40:08 2007
From: tbuzina at YANDEX.RU (Tatyana Buzina)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 19:40:08 +0300
Subject: "hoodie" in Russian
In-Reply-To: <f4a2ae5811234df88adc3f698339a204@mac.com>
Message-ID: <THU.25.JAN.2007.194008.0300.>

I don't presume to pronounce anything on baby-slings (although "kengurushka" seems the more wide-spread term here), but kenguriatnik (kengurina) is also a front bumper protector for SUVs. Just too many different things named after the same animal, if you ask me :).

http://www.4runner.ru/information.php?pages_id=7

>On Jan 25, 2007, at 7:36 AM, Steve Marder wrote:
>
>>
>> Quite true, although it's important to point out that "kengurushka" 
>> also (if not primarily) serves to denote "baby sling."
>>
>
>This could be just an isolated usage, but my friends in Vladivostok 
>used the term "kenguryatnik" to denote a baby sling (and possibly 
>snugli).
>
>Emily Saunders
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From chernev at MUOHIO.EDU  Thu Jan 25 18:46:15 2007
From: chernev at MUOHIO.EDU (Vitaly Chernetsky)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:46:15 -0500
Subject: 'hoodie' in Russian
In-Reply-To: <292558FA7545964CBC439F3D15BAB06A0133AB7C@NDJSEVS11.ndc.nasa.gov>
Message-ID: <THU.25.JAN.2007.134615.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Devin, dear colleagues,

One of the websites Tony included in his message also mentions another
popular Russian name for a hoodie: "tolstovka." Yes, believe it or not,
this word no longer refers exclusively to the Russian peasant style shirt
Lev Nikolaevich used to wear, but now is primarily used to refer to
sweatshirts, especially hooded ones. See, for example:

http://www.ilovedress.ru/guide/01_07/tolstovka/

Best,

Vitaly Chernetsky

On Thu, January 25, 2007 9:50 am, Vanchu, Anthony J. (JSC-AH)[TTI] said:
> kengurukha or kengurushka
>
> You can find kengurkha at the following sites:
> http://www.pinq.ru/wear_theory_wear.htm
>
> http://shop.ice-cream.ws/index.php?productID=297&PHPSESSID=eb9dc43236113
> c2906d628323cf8c189
>
> Tony Vanchu
>
> Dr. Anthony J. Vanchu
> Director, JSC Language Education Center
> TechTrans International, Inc.
> NASA Johnson Space Center
> Houston, TX
> Phone:  (281) 483-0644
> Fax:  (281) 483-4050
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
> [mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of Saskia Ouaknine
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 8:05 AM
> To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] "hoodie" in Russian
>
> Devin,
>
> It's a "Kangourou", in French.
>
> Saskia Ouaknine
>
>
> Surlignage Devin Browne <dpbrowne at MAC.COM>:
>
>> Greetings all!  I need the word for "hoodie," both in French and
>> Russian.  Hoodie, in this case, being a hooded sweatshirt, zippered or
>
>> not.  Are there French and Russian equivalents?
>>
>> The things that become important to high school students....  :-)
>>
>> Merci & Spassibo!
>>
>> Devin
>

-- 
Vitaly Chernetsky
Assistant Professor
Dept. of German, Russian & East Asian Languages
Miami University
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From condee at PITT.EDU  Thu Jan 25 18:46:27 2007
From: condee at PITT.EDU (N. Condee)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:46:27 -0500
Subject: Russian scholars on Warhol?
Message-ID: <THU.25.JAN.2007.134627.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Do any SEELANGS subscribers know of Russia-based scholars (in art, culture,
or cinema) doing research on Andy Warhol's work?  I may be reached off list
at condee at pitt.edu . Thanks.
 

Prof. N. Condee

Dept. of Slavic Languages and Literatures

1417 CL

University of Pittsburgh

Pittsburgh, PA 15260

412-624-5906

 

 

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From dpbrowne at MAC.COM  Thu Jan 25 18:46:36 2007
From: dpbrowne at MAC.COM (Devin Browne)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:46:36 -0500
Subject: Opportunity for current & prospective Russian teachers
Message-ID: <THU.25.JAN.2007.134636.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

*Please distribute widely:*
**
**
*SPECIAL SUMMER OPPORTUNITY FOR CURRENT AND PROSPECTIVE RUSSIAN LANGUAGE
TEACHERS*

The Center for Russian and East European Studies and the Department of
Slavic Languages and Literatures at the University of Pittsburgh will offer
a* Russian Heritage Speakers' Course* in Pitt's 2007 Summer Language
Institute through a grant from the US Department of Education's
Fulbright-Hays Group Projects Abroad Program  The course will provide
advanced intensive instruction for five weeks in Pittsburgh, followed by
five weeks in Moscow, to graduate and upper-level undergraduate students who
grew up in the US in an informal Russian-language environment (usually, a
Russian-speaking home), but have not achieved full Russian linguistic and
cultural proficiency.

Current or prospective middle or high school Russian language teachers – who
need not be heritage speakers themselves – also are eligible for the course.
* Teachers taking part in the program will sharpen their own Russian
language skills and cultural knowledge while also learning strategies for
teaching heritage speakers,* who now make up an increasing portion of the
students enrolled in Russian language classes across the nation. The course
will use individualized tutoring and mentoring to address the specific needs
of heritage speakers, such as improving their Russian reading and writing
skills and their ability to communicate in formal and professional
situations.* Individualized cultural excursions and research projects
conducted in Moscow* will further assist students and teachers in developing
higher-level proficiency in their specific areas of interest.

All course participants (both students and teachers) must be US citizens or
permanent residents.*** Airfare and living expenses in Moscow will be fully
covered by the Fulbright-Hays grant.** Participants may also receive full or
partial tuition scholarships for the 10 University of Pittsburgh credits to
be awarded for successful completion of the course.*
The 2007 program takes place at the University of Pittsburgh from June 4 to
July 6, and then at Moscow State University from July 7 to August 10.* The
application deadline is March 22, 2007*. To obtain additional information
and an application form, please visit the website of the Summer Language
Institute (*http://slavic.sli.pitt.edu* <http://slavic.sli.pitt.edu/>), or
contact Christine Metil at the Department of Slavic Languages and
Literatures (412-624-5906 or slavic at pitt.edu).

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From dhh2 at COLUMBIA.EDU  Thu Jan 25 21:49:33 2007
From: dhh2 at COLUMBIA.EDU (Diana Howansky)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 16:49:33 -0500
Subject: Researcher looking for housing and contacts
Message-ID: <THU.25.JAN.2007.164933.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

A 26-year-old female PhD student in Sociology from Padua University 
(Italy) is looking for temporary housing in New York City from March 
19-May 20, 2007. She would like to share an apartment with other 
graduate students or researchers, or to live with a family. She will be 
in NYC at Hofstra University researching Ukrainian female migration to 
Italy. (Scholars studying this topic are also welcome to contact her.) 
Please direct all suggestions/questions to Francesca Vianello by email 
at: f.vianello at unipd.it.

-- 
Diana Howansky
Staff Associate
Ukrainian Studies Program
Columbia University
Room 1208, MC3345
420 W. 118th Street
New York, NY  10027
(212) 854-4697
ukrainianstudies at columbia.edu
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From thomasy at WISC.EDU  Thu Jan 25 23:26:54 2007
From: thomasy at WISC.EDU (Molly Thomasy)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:26:54 -0600
Subject: Summer program app. deadline extended
Message-ID: <THU.25.JAN.2007.172654.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

A summer Russian language program designed exclusively for Graduate Students and recent PhDs!

        ***Please note: Application deadline extended to February 15th!***

                 MIKHAILOVSKOE SLAVIC SCHOLARS PROGRAM

                  June 10-Aug 5, 2007 in Pushkinskie Gory, Russia

                Our website:  http://slavic.lss.wisc.edu/pushkin/mikh

Mikhailovskoe Slavic Scholars is an innovative new program designed to meet the professional
development and language study needs of individuals who are pursuing a career in Slavic studies.
The program is intended for graduate students, junior faculty and recent PhDs who already possess
advanced level Russian language proficiency, but who are looking for additional intensive language
training and stimulating topics courses.  Through a rigorous 8-week program of advanced language
and literature courses, participants will work toward developing the professional-level Russian
language skills necessary to give professional papers and conduct literature and culture courses in
Russian. In addition to completing coursework (see below), participants will have an opportunity to
develop and deliver an academic lecture in Russian on a topic of their choice at a symposium at the
end of the program.

2007 Course offerings:
- Registers of Russian Philology: Syntax and Stylistics (Weeks 1-8)
- Пушкин в Михайловком (Pushkin v Mikhailovskom) (Weeks 1-2)
- Русский формализм и структурализм (Russkii formalizm i structuralizm) (Weeks 3-4)
- Раннее Советское кино: 20е-30е годы  (Rannee Sovetskoe kino) (Weeks 5-6)
- Борис Акунин: между высокой и массовой литературами (Weeks 7-8)
  (Boris Akunin: mezhdu vysokoi i massovoi literaturami)

Applications due: February 15, 2007.  Notification by March 1, 2007

For more information or to apply visit http://slavic.lss.wisc.edu/pushkin/mikh

Contact program coordinators Laura Little and Molly Thomasy at pushkin at slavic.wisc.edu

The 2007 Mikhailovskoe Slavic Scholars Program is a partnership between the Wisconsin Center for
Pushkin Studies (UW-Madison), and the Piligrim Humanitarian-Cultural Center in St. Petersburg.

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From feldstei at INDIANA.EDU  Fri Jan 26 17:18:10 2007
From: feldstei at INDIANA.EDU (=?windows-1251?Q?Ronald_Feldstein?=)
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:18:10 -0500
Subject: Visiting Lecturer position in Russian and Ukrainian Language
Message-ID: <FRI.26.JAN.2007.121810.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Visiting Lecturer position in Russian and Ukrainian Language

The Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures at Indiana University, 
Bloomington, announces an opening for a visiting lecturer’s position for 
three semesters, in the Russian and Ukrainian languages, starting in 
Spring, 2008 (early January, 2008) and ending in Spring, 2009 (May, 2009). 
The candidate should have native or near-native Russian and Ukrainian and 
be able to teach upper-level Russian courses plus elementary and 
intermediate levels of Ukrainian; fluent English and experience teaching 
Russian and Ukrainian to English-speaking students are essential. 
Candidates should be practitioners of modern methods of foreign language 
pedagogy and should hold the M.A. degree or higher, in a field related to 
the teaching of Russian and Ukrainian languages. Familiarity with the 
American university system and culture is required. Planned course load is 
three courses per semester. We are seeking an enthusiastic teacher of 
Russian and Ukrainian, who is committed to promoting the language and 
culture in our extracurricular activities and outreach programs, which 
include language tables and student interest clubs. The ideal candidate 
will also show an interest in helping us promote and expand our current 
offerings in Russian and Ukrainian.

Send curriculum vitae, letter of interest, and three letters of 
recommendation to: Search Committee, Department of Slavic Languages and 
Literatures, Indiana University, BH 502, Bloomington, IN 47405-7103. 
Applications can also be submitted electronically, to: 
iuslavic at indiana.edu, subject line: Russian-Ukrainian visiting position. 
If available, please send copies of your syllabi for fourth- and fifth-
year Russian and first-year Ukrainian. Applications should be received by 
March 1, 2007. Indiana University is an Equal Opportunity-Affirmative 
Action Employer; Indiana University encourages applications from women and 
minorities.

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From anne.lounsbery at NYU.EDU  Fri Jan 26 17:26:14 2007
From: anne.lounsbery at NYU.EDU (Anne Lounsbery)
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:26:14 -0500
Subject: seeking Petersburg apt. May-June 2007
In-Reply-To: <45B8DD68.000004.25989@tide.yandex.ru>
Message-ID: <FRI.26.JAN.2007.122614.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I'm hoping to rent a comfortable, centrally located, not-too-small apartment
in Petersburg, ideally from mid-May through June of this year.

Dates are fairly flexible and budget is not particularly tight.

Please contact me off-list at anne.lounsbery at nyu.edu.

Thank you very much!


Anne Lounsbery
Assistant Professor and Director of Graduate Study
Department of Russian and Slavic Studies
New York University
19 University Place, 2nd floor
New York, NY 10003

(212) 998-8674

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From vinarska at YAHOO.COM  Fri Jan 26 18:16:27 2007
From: vinarska at YAHOO.COM (Maryna Vinarska)
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 10:16:27 -0800
Subject: Leningrad cowboys
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.0.20070125092010.01b81048@ndsu.edu>
Message-ID: <FRI.26.JAN.2007.101627.0800.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Well... it's really something... But they definitely borrowed the idea from Verka Serdiuchka. I saw smth like this in "Goluboj Ogoniek" two or three years ago. I mean with the Army Choir.  Konec sveta... U Serdiuchki teper' konkurenty est'...
Regards,
MV

Kristi Groberg <Kristi.Groberg at NDSU.EDU> wrote: At 09:17 25.01.2007, you wrote:
>And disturbing in yet a different way is their (the Leningrad Cowboys')
>rendition of "Sweet Home Alabama with the Red Army Choir:
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt2YuLds48k

Thanks, this made my day. I haven't laughed so hard for quite a 
while. The poor Red Army Chorus.
Kris Groberg

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From dmbethea at WISC.EDU  Fri Jan 26 20:56:21 2007
From: dmbethea at WISC.EDU (DAVID M BETHEA)
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:56:21 -0600
Subject: seeking Petersburg apt. May-June 2007
In-Reply-To: <HGEOKBCPAMOPGFJAGJBNIEKNDOAA.anne.lounsbery@nyu.edu>
Message-ID: <FRI.26.JAN.2007.145621.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Anne,

I have an apartment on ulitsa Rubenshteina right off of Nevsky.  Super location, large one bedroom with "evro remont."  Let me know if you're interested and I'll put you in touch with my booking person.  In the summer months it will probably go for $80/night.

Best, David

David M. Bethea
Vilas Professor in Slavic
Department of Slavic Langs. and Lits.
University of Wisconsin-Madison
Madison, WI 53706
(608) 262-9766, 262-3498

----- Original Message -----
From: Anne Lounsbery <anne.lounsbery at NYU.EDU>
Date: Friday, January 26, 2007 2:10 pm
Subject: [SEELANGS] seeking Petersburg apt. May-June 2007
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU


> I'm hoping to rent a comfortable, centrally located, not-too-small apartment
>  in Petersburg, ideally from mid-May through June of this year.
>  
>  Dates are fairly flexible and budget is not particularly tight.
>  
>  Please contact me off-list at anne.lounsbery at nyu.edu.
>  
>  Thank you very much!
>  
>  
>  Anne Lounsbery
>  Assistant Professor and Director of Graduate Study
>  Department of Russian and Slavic Studies
>  New York University
>  19 University Place, 2nd floor
>  New York, NY 10003
>  
>  (212) 998-8674
>  
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From akaladio at KEENE.EDU  Fri Jan 26 22:09:12 2007
From: akaladio at KEENE.EDU (Kaladiouk, Anna)
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 17:09:12 -0500
Subject: Leningrad cowboys
Message-ID: <FRI.26.JAN.2007.170912.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Irochka,
 
posmotri, podivis'.
 
a

________________________________

From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list on behalf of Valery Belyanin
Sent: Thu 1/25/2007 9:50 AM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: [SEELANGS] Leningrad cowboys



Hello everybody
for those who are interested in how a documentary film can be combined with
rock and weird outfit and for those who want the name Leningrad back it will
be interesting to watch a 5 min song of Leningrad cowboys.
This is really awful. Do not watch it in the morning and before going to
bed:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXP7ZeuW_T4

--
Yours truly, ??????? ??????? / Valery Belyanin,



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From akaladio at KEENE.EDU  Fri Jan 26 22:10:04 2007
From: akaladio at KEENE.EDU (Kaladiouk, Anna)
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 17:10:04 -0500
Subject: Leningrad cowboys
Message-ID: <FRI.26.JAN.2007.171004.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I esche.

________________________________

From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list on behalf of Maryna Vinarska
Sent: Fri 1/26/2007 1:16 PM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Leningrad cowboys



Well... it's really something... But they definitely borrowed the idea from Verka Serdiuchka. I saw smth like this in "Goluboj Ogoniek" two or three years ago. I mean with the Army Choir.  Konec sveta... U Serdiuchki teper' konkurenty est'...
Regards,
MV

Kristi Groberg <Kristi.Groberg at NDSU.EDU> wrote: At 09:17 25.01.2007, you wrote:
>And disturbing in yet a different way is their (the Leningrad Cowboys')
>rendition of "Sweet Home Alabama with the Red Army Choir:
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt2YuLds48k

Thanks, this made my day. I haven't laughed so hard for quite a
while. The poor Red Army Chorus.
Kris Groberg

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From dhh2 at COLUMBIA.EDU  Fri Jan 26 22:45:20 2007
From: dhh2 at COLUMBIA.EDU (Diana Howansky)
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 17:45:20 -0500
Subject: Searching for participants of Orange Revolution
Message-ID: <FRI.26.JAN.2007.174520.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

A PhD student from New School University in New York, NY is interested 
in speaking to Ukrainians -- either in Ukraine or who arrived in the 
U.S. during the past 5 years -- with regard to her dissertation 
concerning the Orange Revolution, Technology, and Popular Culture. (Her 
research deals with, for example, the use of text messages in 
disseminating information during the Orange Revolution.) Those who 
participated in the Orange Revolution would be particularly helpful. For 
further information, please contact Christine Emeran at: 
emerc095 at newschool.edu.


-- 
Diana Howansky
Staff Associate
Ukrainian Studies Program
Columbia University
Room 1208, MC3345
420 W. 118th Street
New York, NY  10027
(212) 854-4697
ukrainianstudies at columbia.edu
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From anthony.j.vanchu at NASA.GOV  Fri Jan 26 23:07:41 2007
From: anthony.j.vanchu at NASA.GOV (Vanchu, Anthony J. (JSC-AH)[TTI])
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 17:07:41 -0600
Subject: Leningrad cowboys
In-Reply-To: A<3E58EA5EABA507428E70A48D954770082BBDC2@washington.keene.edu>
Message-ID: <FRI.26.JAN.2007.170741.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Just a point of information:  the Leningrad Cowboys and Red Army Choir
Ensemble performance was from a *1993* Finnish television broadcast...



-----Original Message-----
From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
[mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of Kaladiouk, Anna
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 4:10 PM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Leningrad cowboys

I esche.

________________________________

From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list on behalf of
Maryna Vinarska
Sent: Fri 1/26/2007 1:16 PM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Leningrad cowboys



Well... it's really something... But they definitely borrowed the idea
from Verka Serdiuchka. I saw smth like this in "Goluboj Ogoniek" two or
three years ago. I mean with the Army Choir.  Konec sveta... U
Serdiuchki teper' konkurenty est'...
Regards,
MV

Kristi Groberg <Kristi.Groberg at NDSU.EDU> wrote: At 09:17 25.01.2007, you
wrote:
>And disturbing in yet a different way is their (the Leningrad Cowboys')

>rendition of "Sweet Home Alabama with the Red Army Choir:
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt2YuLds48k

Thanks, this made my day. I haven't laughed so hard for quite a while.
The poor Red Army Chorus.
Kris Groberg

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From aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU  Fri Jan 26 23:26:25 2007
From: aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU (Alina Israeli)
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 18:26:25 -0500
Subject: Leningrad cowboys
In-Reply-To: <292558FA7545964CBC439F3D15BAB06A0133B5B0@NDJSEVS11.ndc.nasa.gov>
Message-ID: <FRI.26.JAN.2007.182625.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

On Jan 26, 2007, at 6:07 PM, Vanchu, Anthony J. (JSC-AH)[TTI] wrote:

> Just a point of information:  the Leningrad Cowboys and Red Army Choir
> Ensemble performance was from a *1993* Finnish television broadcast...
>

On Jan 26, 2007, at 1:16 PM, Maryna Vinarska wrote:
> Well... it's really something... But they definitely borrowed the  
> idea from Verka Serdiuchka. I saw smth like this in "Goluboj  
> Ogoniek" two or three years ago. I mean with the Army Choir.  Konec  
> sveta... U Serdiuchki teper' konkurenty est'...
> Regards,
> MV


I have a CD of the Leningrad cowboys, a bona fide Russian pop, except  
sung in English. If it were in Russian I would have used in class.  
Verka Serdjuchka is a performer in drags more akin to Dame Edna (and  
I am a great fan of Dame Edna), but they hardly have anything in  
common, I mean Verka Serdiuchka and Leningrad cowboys.



Alina Israeli
LFS, American University
4400 Massachusetts Ave., NW
Washington DC. 20016
(202) 885-2387 	
fax (202) 885-1076
aisrael at american.edu




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From kmhst16 at PITT.EDU  Sat Jan 27 02:19:16 2007
From: kmhst16 at PITT.EDU (K. M. Harkness)
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 21:19:16 -0500
Subject: Leningrad cowboys
In-Reply-To: <33A673A5-1CB1-44D4-ACE4-3E74CA7F7884@american.edu>
Message-ID: <FRI.26.JAN.2007.211916.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Just in case there is some confusion, the Leningrad Cowboys are a Finnish
group.

Kristen


On 1/26/07 6:26 PM, "Alina Israeli" <aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU> wrote:

> On Jan 26, 2007, at 6:07 PM, Vanchu, Anthony J. (JSC-AH)[TTI] wrote:
> 
>> > Just a point of information:  the Leningrad Cowboys and Red Army Choir
>> > Ensemble performance was from a *1993* Finnish television broadcast...
>> >
> 
> On Jan 26, 2007, at 1:16 PM, Maryna Vinarska wrote:
>> > Well... it's really something... But they definitely borrowed the
>> > idea from Verka Serdiuchka. I saw smth like this in "Goluboj
>> > Ogoniek" two or three years ago. I mean with the Army Choir.  Konec
>> > sveta... U Serdiuchki teper' konkurenty est'...
>> > Regards,
>> > MV
> 
> 
> I have a CD of the Leningrad cowboys, a bona fide Russian pop, except
> sung in English. If it were in Russian I would have used in class.
> Verka Serdjuchka is a performer in drags more akin to Dame Edna (and
> I am a great fan of Dame Edna), but they hardly have anything in
> common, I mean Verka Serdiuchka and Leningrad cowboys.
> 
> 
> 
> Alina Israeli
> LFS, American University
> 4400 Massachusetts Ave., NW
> Washington DC. 20016
> (202) 885-2387  
> fax (202) 885-1076
> aisrael at american.edu
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From Irene.Zohrab at VUW.AC.NZ  Sat Jan 27 20:51:38 2007
From: Irene.Zohrab at VUW.AC.NZ (Irene Zohrab)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 09:51:38 +1300
Subject: Leningrad cowboys and Leningrad
Message-ID: <SUN.28.JAN.2007.095138.1300.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Someone said that the price of crosss-culturalism might be some initial confusion.
Could some SEELANGERS by any chance be confusing the Leningrad cowboys, a Finnish band that has been around since the late 1980s, with the band Leningrad, a Russian ska-punk band that provided three songs to the soundtrack of “Everything Is Illuminated”, as did the Gogol Bordello band??? 


Irene Zohrab
Victoria University
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From nataliek at UALBERTA.CA  Sat Jan 27 21:59:58 2007
From: nataliek at UALBERTA.CA (nataliek at UALBERTA.CA)
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 14:59:58 -0700
Subject: Searching for participants of Orange Revolution
In-Reply-To: <45BA8480.3020301@columbia.edu>
Message-ID: <SAT.27.JAN.2007.145958.0700.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Quoting Diana Howansky <dhh2 at COLUMBIA.EDU>:

> A PhD student from New School University in New York, NY is interested
> in speaking to Ukrainians -- either in Ukraine or who arrived in the
> U.S. during the past 5 years -- with regard to her dissertation
> concerning the Orange Revolution, Technology, and Popular Culture. (Her
> research deals with, for example, the use of text messages in
> disseminating information during the Orange Revolution.) Those who
> participated in the Orange Revolution would be particularly helpful.
> For further information, please contact Christine Emeran at:
> emerc095 at newschool.edu.
>
>

I'm reply to the group since this might be of wider interest.  An  
article on Folklore of the Orange Revolution by Britsyna and Holovakha  
came out in Folklorica about a year ago.  Mostly it's about grafitti,  
but there is discussion of text messaging.

Natalie Kononenko
Kule Chair of Ukrainian Ethnography
University of Alberta
Modern Languages and Cultural Studies
200 Arts Building
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada T6G 2E6
Phone: 780-492-6810
Web: http://www.arts.ualberta.ca/uvp/

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From vinarska at YAHOO.COM  Sat Jan 27 19:16:27 2007
From: vinarska at YAHOO.COM (Maryna Vinarska)
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 11:16:27 -0800
Subject: Leningrad cowboys
In-Reply-To: <C1E020D4.595F%kmhst16@pitt.edu>
Message-ID: <SAT.27.JAN.2007.111627.0800.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Does it really matter? Aren't we one big family now?.. A global family, this is how it is called, as far as I remember... You see, cowboys (Finnish!) in Leningrad, the Red Army Choir and Alabama...
Anyway, the site, this www.youtube.com, turned out to be a very good site. 
I found a _great_ song performed by Sofia Rotaru, "Odna kalyna": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TQvlsc5iWo. Highly recommend to those who love Ukrainian music. 
Besides, there is smth from our classics, so to say, on this site:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A90dlhuz8k0 (pozovi menia s soboj),
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDqKSMphdVs (etot mir). Nice songs which are forever. And here one can see our Serdiuchka in his authentic form: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48m6BXVM2mw (novyj god)
Regards,
Maryna Vinarska

"K. M. Harkness" <kmhst16 at PITT.EDU> wrote: Just in case there is some confusion, the Leningrad Cowboys are a Finnish
group.

Kristen


On 1/26/07 6:26 PM, "Alina Israeli"  wrote:

> On Jan 26, 2007, at 6:07 PM, Vanchu, Anthony J. (JSC-AH)[TTI] wrote:
> 
>> > Just a point of information:  the Leningrad Cowboys and Red Army Choir
>> > Ensemble performance was from a *1993* Finnish television broadcast...
>> >
> 
> On Jan 26, 2007, at 1:16 PM, Maryna Vinarska wrote:
>> > Well... it's really something... But they definitely borrowed the
>> > idea from Verka Serdiuchka. I saw smth like this in "Goluboj
>> > Ogoniek" two or three years ago. I mean with the Army Choir.  Konec
>> > sveta... U Serdiuchki teper' konkurenty est'...
>> > Regards,
>> > MV
> 
> 
> I have a CD of the Leningrad cowboys, a bona fide Russian pop, except
> sung in English. If it were in Russian I would have used in class.
> Verka Serdjuchka is a performer in drags more akin to Dame Edna (and
> I am a great fan of Dame Edna), but they hardly have anything in
> common, I mean Verka Serdiuchka and Leningrad cowboys.
> 
> 
> 
> Alina Israeli
> LFS, American University
> 4400 Massachusetts Ave., NW
> Washington DC. 20016
> (202) 885-2387  
> fax (202) 885-1076
> aisrael at american.edu
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From tolstoy at MSCC.HUJI.AC.IL  Sat Jan 27 11:10:36 2007
From: tolstoy at MSCC.HUJI.AC.IL (Helena Tolstoy)
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 13:10:36 +0200
Subject: utopia/anti-utopia panel chair
In-Reply-To: <9415124d0701051214r70142a0cv37e6b058f02ff2f9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.27.JAN.2007.131036.0200.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Marina, Is it late to send in a paper title? If not I could speak on
"The unknown Early Soviet Anti-Utopias of Nadezhda Bromley". Vasha--Lena
Tolstaja.

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[mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of Marina Aptekman
Sent: 05 January 2007 22:14
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: [SEELANGS] utopia/anti-utopia panel chair

Hi, everyone,

It looks like that we are still looking for a chair on our panel on
Russian twentieth-century Utopia/anti-utopia . Is anyone interested?
Please let me know ASAP if you'd like to join.

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From vinarska at YAHOO.COM  Sat Jan 27 13:30:19 2007
From: vinarska at YAHOO.COM (Maryna Vinarska)
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 05:30:19 -0800
Subject: Leningrad cowboys
In-Reply-To: <292558FA7545964CBC439F3D15BAB06A0133B5B0@NDJSEVS11.ndc.nasa.gov>
Message-ID: <SAT.27.JAN.2007.053019.0800.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Unbelievable... How come that it has never been broadcast on our TV? So unfair... Eto zh za chto nas tak obdelili?! Za chto nam etu nespravedlivost' zapodeiali?! 
Does it mean that the first clip is also from those times? I suppose so. It can't be that these "cowboys" are still wearing the same "snogshibatel'nyi" outfit. I hope that the guys from the same country who won the last Eurovision contest are not going to devote their next masterpiece to any of Russian cities... From the other side... I am absolutely sure that Russian will become popular again and very soon. 
Regards,
Maryna Vinarska

"Vanchu, Anthony J. (JSC-AH)[TTI]" <anthony.j.vanchu at NASA.GOV> wrote: Just a point of information:  the Leningrad Cowboys and Red Army Choir
Ensemble performance was from a *1993* Finnish television broadcast...



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of Kaladiouk, Anna
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 4:10 PM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Leningrad cowboys

I esche.

________________________________

From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list on behalf of
Maryna Vinarska
Sent: Fri 1/26/2007 1:16 PM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Leningrad cowboys



Well... it's really something... But they definitely borrowed the idea
from Verka Serdiuchka. I saw smth like this in "Goluboj Ogoniek" two or
three years ago. I mean with the Army Choir.  Konec sveta... U
Serdiuchki teper' konkurenty est'...
Regards,
MV

Kristi Groberg  wrote: At 09:17 25.01.2007, you
wrote:
>And disturbing in yet a different way is their (the Leningrad Cowboys')

>rendition of "Sweet Home Alabama with the Red Army Choir:
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt2YuLds48k

Thanks, this made my day. I haven't laughed so hard for quite a while.
The poor Red Army Chorus.
Kris Groberg

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From tolstoy at MSCC.HUJI.AC.IL  Sat Jan 27 11:00:51 2007
From: tolstoy at MSCC.HUJI.AC.IL (Helena Tolstoy)
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 13:00:51 +0200
Subject: CALL FOR PAPERS:CRCEES Research Days, 11-12 May 2007/Glasgow
In-Reply-To: <f6b9d32e1d93.45a63a05@usc.edu>
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Dear Sirs, 
My name is Helen Tolstoy. I am professor of Russian Literature at Hebrew
University. I could speak on "An Invisible Culture: New  Russian-language
writing in Israel".
Best, HT 
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[mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of Elena Vassileva
Sent: 11 January 2007 23:22
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] CALL FOR PAPERS:CRCEES Research Days, 11-12 May
2007/Glasgow
Importance: High

----- Original Message -----
From: Alexandra Smith <Alexandra.Smith at ED.AC.UK>
Date: Thursday, January 11, 2007 11:59 am
Subject: [SEELANGS] CALL FOR PAPERS:CRCEES Research Days, 11-12 May
2007/Glasgow
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU

> CALL FOR PAPERS:
> 
> CRCEES Research Days, 11-12 May 2007
> 
> Kelvin Conference Centre
> 
> Call for Papers
> 
> 
> The Centre for Russian, Central and East European Studies (CRCEES)  
> will be holding the
> first of its annual Research Days at the Kelvin Conference Centre,  
> University of Glasgow,
> on 11-12 May 2007.
> 
> The plan is to have a combination of research panels, plenary 
> sessions  
> and informal
> workshops in order to explore the five research themes within 
> CRCEES.  
> These are:
> 
> Aspects of identity and culture and their social, political and  
> economic implications;
> 
> Economic and social transformation;
> 
> Political transformation and international relations;
> 
> Literary, cinematic and cultural developments in the area;
> 
> The politics of language.
> 
> 
> CRCEES has established an Organising Committee to arrange this 
> event,  
> chaired by Geoff
> Swain (Glasgow) and comprising Moya Flynn and Jon Oldfield 
> (Glasgow),  
> Cynthia Marsh
> (Nottingham) and Lara Ryazanova-Clarke (Edinburgh)
> 
> The Organising Committee is calling for proposals for individual  
> papers or panels,
> plenary sessions, and workshops. It is particularly keen to involve 
> 
> contributions from
> post-graduate students; these may either take the form of papers  
> integrated within panels
> or discreet post-graduate events. Participants from outside the 
> CRCEES  
> network are
> welcome, but their funding can not be guaranteed.
> 
> The members of the Organising Committee are happy to give advice, 
> and  
> all propels should
> be with Geoff Swain (g.swain at lbss.gla.ac.uk) by the deadline of 31  
> January 2007.
> 
> 
> 
> ===========================================
> Alexandra Smith (PhD, University of London)
> Lecturer in Russian
> School of European Languages and Cultures
> The University of Edinburgh
> David Hume Tower
> George Square
> Edinburgh EX8 9JX
> UK
> 
> tel. +44-(0)131-511381
> fax: +44- (0) 650-3604
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From tolstoy at MSCC.HUJI.AC.IL  Sat Jan 27 11:05:22 2007
From: tolstoy at MSCC.HUJI.AC.IL (Helena Tolstoy)
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 13:05:22 +0200
Subject: Tolstoy Conference
In-Reply-To: <000101c732c2$91e6e160$6500a8c0@IBMDorwin>
Message-ID: <SAT.27.JAN.2007.130522.0200.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Ms. Orwin,
I am professor Helen Tolstoy of the Hebrew University. I have a theme: "Mind
Control Techniques in Tolstoy's Prose". 
Best, HT


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[mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of Donna Orwin
Sent: 08 January 2007 03:16
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: [SEELANGS] Tolstoy Conference

Dear Colleagues,
 
I want to remind those of you who expressed interest in the Tolstoy
conference at Iasnaia Poliana this summer that the application is due on
February 1.  For more details, go to tolstoystudies.org.
 
Sincerely yours,
 
Donna Tussing Orwin
 
----------------------------
Prof. Donna Tussing Orwin
President, Tolstoy Society
Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures
University of Toronto
Alumni Hall 415
121 St. Joseph St. 
Toronto. ON M5S 1J4
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From emilka at MAC.COM  Sun Jan 28 01:18:56 2007
From: emilka at MAC.COM (Emily Saunders)
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 17:18:56 -0800
Subject: Leningrad cowboys
In-Reply-To: <56640.46901.qm@web30805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.27.JAN.2007.171856.0800.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

There was an actual full-length movie I recall watching in my  
undergraduate days called, I think, Leningrad Cowboys Go America.  The  
plot line is that there are these bunch of brothers? who all have long  
pompadours and long narrow feet (shoes?0 and they have a rock band.   
One of the brothers dies playing in his guitar (or balalaika?) in the  
snow in winter and so in his honor they decide to go on tour in the  
U.S.  So they travel around with their brother in a coffin on top of a  
car all the while pursued by the black sheep of the family -- the one  
guy with a small pompadour and normal sized feet -- who just wants to  
be part of the club.  It is a truly weird film, but if you liked the  
uTube snip, you gotta watch this flick.  Imdb.com has a review that  
calls it the Finnish answer to Spinal Tap.

Emily Saunders

On Jan 27, 2007, at 5:30 AM, Maryna Vinarska wrote:

> Unbelievable... How come that it has never been broadcast on our TV?  
> So unfair... Eto zh za chto nas tak obdelili?! Za chto nam etu  
> nespravedlivost' zapodeiali?!
> Does it mean that the first clip is also from those times? I suppose  
> so. It can't be that these "cowboys" are still wearing the same  
> "snogshibatel'nyi" outfit. I hope that the guys from the same country  
> who won the last Eurovision contest are not going to devote their next  
> masterpiece to any of Russian cities... From the other side... I am  
> absolutely sure that Russian will become popular again and very soon.
> Regards,
> Maryna Vinarska
>
> "Vanchu, Anthony J. (JSC-AH)[TTI]" <anthony.j.vanchu at NASA.GOV> wrote:  
> Just a point of information:  the Leningrad Cowboys and Red Army Choir
> Ensemble performance was from a *1993* Finnish television broadcast...
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
> [mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of Kaladiouk, Anna
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 4:10 PM
> To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Leningrad cowboys
>
> I esche.
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list on behalf of
> Maryna Vinarska
> Sent: Fri 1/26/2007 1:16 PM
> To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Leningrad cowboys
>
>
>
> Well... it's really something... But they definitely borrowed the idea
> from Verka Serdiuchka. I saw smth like this in "Goluboj Ogoniek" two or
> three years ago. I mean with the Army Choir.  Konec sveta... U
> Serdiuchki teper' konkurenty est'...
> Regards,
> MV
>
> Kristi Groberg  wrote: At 09:17 25.01.2007, you
> wrote:
>> And disturbing in yet a different way is their (the Leningrad  
>> Cowboys')
>
>> rendition of "Sweet Home Alabama with the Red Army Choir:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt2YuLds48k
>
> Thanks, this made my day. I haven't laughed so hard for quite a while.
> The poor Red Army Chorus.
> Kris Groberg
>
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From donna.orwin at UTORONTO.CA  Sun Jan 28 03:27:14 2007
From: donna.orwin at UTORONTO.CA (Donna Orwin)
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 22:27:14 -0500
Subject: Tolstoy Conference
In-Reply-To: <001001c74203$0a472bc0$010a0a0a@Notebook>
Message-ID: <SAT.27.JAN.2007.222714.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Professor Tolstoy,

I will add your name and title to my list.  Please send me a Russian
title as well.  When I receive more information about the conference
from Iasnaia Poliana, I will pass it on to everybody.

I believe that I learned from Wolf Moskovich that you are related
directly to Aleksei, not to Lev Tolstoy.  Is that correct?  It just so
happens that I will be in Israel in February to visit our son, who is
studying Arabic in the master's program at Hebrew U.  Perhaps we could
meet for coffee.  Unfortunately, I will be in Jerusalem only three days,
from late Thursday, Feb. 22 to Sunday.

All the best,

Donna Orwin

P.S. Если Вам это легче, пожалуйста, пишите мне по-русски, и простите
мой сломанный русский язык.

----------------------------
Prof. Donna Tussing Orwin
President, Tolstoy Society
Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures
University of Toronto
Alumni Hall 415
121 St. Joseph St. 
Toronto. ON M5S 1J4
Tel. 416-926-1300. ext. 3316


-----Original Message-----
From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
[mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of Helena Tolstoy
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 6:05 AM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Tolstoy Conference

Dear Ms. Orwin,
I am professor Helen Tolstoy of the Hebrew University. I have a theme:
"Mind
Control Techniques in Tolstoy's Prose". 
Best, HT


-----Original Message-----
From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
[mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of Donna Orwin
Sent: 08 January 2007 03:16
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: [SEELANGS] Tolstoy Conference

Dear Colleagues,
 
I want to remind those of you who expressed interest in the Tolstoy
conference at Iasnaia Poliana this summer that the application is due on
February 1.  For more details, go to tolstoystudies.org.
 
Sincerely yours,
 
Donna Tussing Orwin
 
----------------------------
Prof. Donna Tussing Orwin
President, Tolstoy Society
Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures
University of Toronto
Alumni Hall 415
121 St. Joseph St. 
Toronto. ON M5S 1J4
Tel. 416-926-1300. ext. 3316
 

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From donna.orwin at UTORONTO.CA  Sun Jan 28 03:30:23 2007
From: donna.orwin at UTORONTO.CA (Donna Orwin)
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 22:30:23 -0500
Subject: Tolstoy Conference
In-Reply-To: <000001c7428c$34faba10$6500a8c0@IBMDorwin>
Message-ID: <SAT.27.JAN.2007.223023.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear SEELANGers,

Pardon me for posting a private communication.

Donna Orwin

----------------------------
Prof. Donna Tussing Orwin
President, Tolstoy Society
Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures
University of Toronto
Alumni Hall 415
121 St. Joseph St. 
Toronto. ON M5S 1J4
Tel. 416-926-1300. ext. 3316


-----Original Message-----
From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
[mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of Donna Orwin
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 10:27 PM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Tolstoy Conference

Dear Professor Tolstoy,

I will add your name and title to my list.  Please send me a Russian
title as well.  When I receive more information about the conference
from Iasnaia Poliana, I will pass it on to everybody.

I believe that I learned from Wolf Moskovich that you are related
directly to Aleksei, not to Lev Tolstoy.  Is that correct?  It just so
happens that I will be in Israel in February to visit our son, who is
studying Arabic in the master's program at Hebrew U.  Perhaps we could
meet for coffee.  Unfortunately, I will be in Jerusalem only three days,
from late Thursday, Feb. 22 to Sunday.

All the best,

Donna Orwin

P.S. Если Вам это легче, пожалуйста, пишите мне по-русски, и простите
мой сломанный русский язык.

----------------------------
Prof. Donna Tussing Orwin
President, Tolstoy Society
Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures
University of Toronto
Alumni Hall 415
121 St. Joseph St. 
Toronto. ON M5S 1J4
Tel. 416-926-1300. ext. 3316


-----Original Message-----
From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
[mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of Helena Tolstoy
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 6:05 AM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Tolstoy Conference

Dear Ms. Orwin,
I am professor Helen Tolstoy of the Hebrew University. I have a theme:
"Mind
Control Techniques in Tolstoy's Prose". 
Best, HT


-----Original Message-----
From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
[mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of Donna Orwin
Sent: 08 January 2007 03:16
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: [SEELANGS] Tolstoy Conference

Dear Colleagues,
 
I want to remind those of you who expressed interest in the Tolstoy
conference at Iasnaia Poliana this summer that the application is due on
February 1.  For more details, go to tolstoystudies.org.
 
Sincerely yours,
 
Donna Tussing Orwin
 
----------------------------
Prof. Donna Tussing Orwin
President, Tolstoy Society
Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures
University of Toronto
Alumni Hall 415
121 St. Joseph St. 
Toronto. ON M5S 1J4
Tel. 416-926-1300. ext. 3316
 

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From jennifercarr at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK  Sat Jan 27 11:00:37 2007
From: jennifercarr at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Jenny Carr)
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 11:00:37 -0000
Subject: Fw: Galya Mazurenko
Message-ID: <SAT.27.JAN.2007.110037.0000.JENNIFERCARR@BLUEYONDER.CO.UK>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: John Langran 
To: RUSSIAN-TEACHING at JISCMAIL.AC.UK 
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 8:04 PM
Subject: Galya Mazurenko


Dear colleages

Does anyone know of any current research on the Ukrainian 20C poet Galya Mazurenko? Does anyone have a particular interest in her work? Her granddaughter who is learning Russian has asked me to find out anything I can. 

John Langran
Ruslan Limited, 19 Highfield Road, Moseley, Birmingham, B13 9HL
00 44 (0) 121 449 1578
www.ruslan.co.uk

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From rar at SLAVIC.UMASS.EDU  Sun Jan 28 18:12:10 2007
From: rar at SLAVIC.UMASS.EDU (Robert A. Rothstein)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 13:12:10 -0500
Subject: Kundera article (cont.)
In-Reply-To: <637300C9-94C1-48C8-A73A-5FB26CFD082D@american.edu>
Message-ID: <SUN.28.JAN.2007.131210.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Alina Israeli wrote:
> Wouldn't some list members agree that Pasternak's translations are 
> con-genius to the original and works of art in and of themselves 
> (Shakespeare and Goethe, for ex)? The same could be said of Lozinsky's 
> translations, of Cola Brugnon, for example. I could find a few more 
> amazing translators: Rita Rajt-Kovaleva, Golyshev, Ljubimov and 
> others, of course.
>

A delayed reaction to Alina's posting above: I would argue that Boris 
Zakhoder's _Prikliucheniia Alisy v strane chudes_ is as brilliant as the 
Lewis Carroll original, and, perhaps heretically, that his _Vinni-pukh i 
vse-vse-vse_ is better than A. A. Milne's _Winnie-the-Pooh_.

Bob Rothstein

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From caron.4 at OSU.EDU  Sun Jan 28 18:27:06 2007
From: caron.4 at OSU.EDU (Inna Caron)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 13:27:06 -0500
Subject: Kundera article (cont.)
In-Reply-To: <45BCE77A.8010302@slavic.umass.edu>
Message-ID: <SUN.28.JAN.2007.132706.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Robert A. Rothstein wrote:

>A delayed reaction to Alina's posting above: I would argue that Boris 
>Zakhoder's _Prikliucheniia Alisy v strane chudes_ is as brilliant as
the 
>Lewis Carroll original, and, perhaps heretically, that his _Vinni-pukh
i 
>vse-vse-vse_ is better than A. A. Milne's _Winnie-the-Pooh_.


And Volkov's "Volshebnik Izumrudnogo Goroda" (the entire 6-volume
sequence) vs. Baum's "Wizard of Oz" 

Heretically yours,

IC

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From aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU  Sun Jan 28 18:31:33 2007
From: aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU (Alina Israeli)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 13:31:33 -0500
Subject: Kundera article (cont.)
In-Reply-To: <000c01c74309$ebda7e00$0601a8c0@acer2e68c49b20>
Message-ID: <SUN.28.JAN.2007.133133.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Except it should not have had Volkov's name above the title.


On Jan 28, 2007, at 1:27 PM, Inna Caron wrote:

> Robert A. Rothstein wrote:
>
>> A delayed reaction to Alina's posting above: I would argue that Boris
>> Zakhoder's _Prikliucheniia Alisy v strane chudes_ is as brilliant as
> the
>> Lewis Carroll original, and, perhaps heretically, that his _Vinni- 
>> pukh
> i
>> vse-vse-vse_ is better than A. A. Milne's _Winnie-the-Pooh_.
>
>
> And Volkov's "Volshebnik Izumrudnogo Goroda" (the entire 6-volume
> sequence) vs. Baum's "Wizard of Oz"
>
> Heretically yours,
>
> IC
>

Alina Israeli
LFS, American University
4400 Massachusetts Ave., NW
Washington DC. 20016
(202) 885-2387 	
fax (202) 885-1076
aisrael at american.edu




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From dumanis at BUFFALO.EDU  Sun Jan 28 21:18:48 2007
From: dumanis at BUFFALO.EDU (Edward M Dumanis)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 16:18:48 -0500
Subject: Kundera article (cont.)
In-Reply-To: <1CFD748F-586B-4DA7-8E40-4496BEFEB957@american.edu>
Message-ID: <SUN.28.JAN.2007.161848.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I second it.



On Sun, 28 Jan 2007, Alina Israeli wrote:

> Except it should not have had Volkov's name above the title.
> 
> 
> On Jan 28, 2007, at 1:27 PM, Inna Caron wrote:
> 
> > Robert A. Rothstein wrote:
> >
> >> A delayed reaction to Alina's posting above: I would argue that Boris
> >> Zakhoder's _Prikliucheniia Alisy v strane chudes_ is as brilliant as
> > the
> >> Lewis Carroll original, and, perhaps heretically, that his _Vinni- 
> >> pukh
> > i
> >> vse-vse-vse_ is better than A. A. Milne's _Winnie-the-Pooh_.
> >
> >
> > And Volkov's "Volshebnik Izumrudnogo Goroda" (the entire 6-volume
> > sequence) vs. Baum's "Wizard of Oz"
> >
> > Heretically yours,
> >
> > IC
> >
> 
> Alina Israeli
> LFS, American University
> 4400 Massachusetts Ave., NW
> Washington DC. 20016
> (202) 885-2387 	
> fax (202) 885-1076
> aisrael at american.edu
> 
> 
> 
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From natalia.pylypiuk at UALBERTA.CA  Sun Jan 28 20:28:01 2007
From: natalia.pylypiuk at UALBERTA.CA (Natalia Pylypiuk)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 13:28:01 -0700
Subject: the poet and painter Halya Mazurenko
In-Reply-To: <00a601c74202$6102a6c0$6403a8c0@jenny>
Message-ID: <SUN.28.JAN.2007.132801.0700.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Mr. Langran and Fellow SEELANGERS,

The fourth letter of the Ukrainian alphabet  ( Г ) is transliterated  
into English with an H,
whereas the fifth letter ( Ґ ) is rendered with a G.  Thus,  
Mazurenko's first name should be
transliterated as Halia  (Library of Congress system), or  Halja   
(Internationa Standard),
or Halya (British and various other anglophone systems).

There is a brief entry on the poet and painter Halia Mazurenko in the  
III Volume of the *Encyclopedia of
Ukraine* (CIUS & University of Toronto, 1993), which enumerates her  
collections of poetry
and features a photograph. The following articles might be a good  
place to start for studying
Halia Mazurenko's legacy:
(1)  "Halia Mazurenko (Boholiubova Halyna Serhiïvna)" in
Dnipropetrovshchyna: rehional'nyi informatsiinyi portal
http://irp.dp.ua/site/topicitem.jsp? 
category_id=58850801&item_id=201713134

(2) Myroslav Makarevych, "V poshukakh vtrachenoï intelihentsiï...  
cherez pryzmu doli
odniieï rodyny,"  *Dzerkalo tyzhnia*, 9-15  hrudnia 2000
http://www.zn.kiev.ua/nn/show/321/29693/    [There is a Russian  
version of this article:
http://www.zerkalo-nedeli.com/nn/show/321/29693/ ]

(3) Alena Moravkova, "Oksana Liaturyns'ka i Halia Mazurenko --  
studentky Ukraïns'koï studiï
plastychnoho mystetstva,"  *Ukraïns'ke mystets'ke seredovyshche v  
mizhvoiennii
Chekhoslovachchyni  (Praha [Prague], 2005) pp. 163-168

(4) Also, In *Ukraïins'ke zhyttia v Sevastopoli*
http://ukrlife.org/main/evshan/teliha_100about.htm
there is an article about the Ukrainian poet Olena Teliha (who was  
shot in Babyn Iar), in which
her circle of friends, including Halia Mazurenko, is mentioned.

Also, I suggest perusing the following publications:
1) the official organ of the Institute of Literature, *Slovo i chas,*  
which
is published in Kyiv.  I recall reading about Halia Mazurenko in one  
of the 2003 issues.
2) the almanac *Sicheslavshchyna*, which is published by the  
Dnipropetrovsk branch of the
*Vseukraïns'ka spilka kraieznavtsiv* and the *Dnipropetrovs'ka  
oblasna naukova biblioteka.*
3)  the journal *Sicheslav*
4) the site of the Dinipropetrovs'ka tsentral'na mis'ka biblioteka

I would also consider articles on the Prague school of Ukrainian  
poets.  Google has quite a few entries
in Ukrainian (and some in Russian) on Halia Mazurenko.  Good luck!

Natalia Pylypiuk (University of Alberta)

On Jan 27, 2007, at 4:00 AM, Jenny Carr wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Langran
> To: RUSSIAN-TEACHING at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 8:04 PM
> Subject: Galya Mazurenko
>
> Dear colleages
>
> Does anyone know of any current research on the Ukrainian 20C poet  
> Galya Mazurenko? Does anyone have a particular interest in her  
> work? Her granddaughter who is learning Russian has asked me to  
> find out anything I can.
>
> John Langran
> Ruslan Limited, 19 Highfield Road, Moseley, Birmingham, B13 9HL
> 00 44 (0) 121 449 1578
> www.ruslan.co.uk
>

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From pstock at BRANDEIS.EDU  Sun Jan 28 22:10:51 2007
From: pstock at BRANDEIS.EDU (David Powelstock)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 17:10:51 -0500
Subject: Isaiah Berlin in high demand
Message-ID: <SUN.28.JAN.2007.171051.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Thanks to the current production of Tom Stoppard's trilogy of plays about
the 19th-c. intelligentsia, "The Coast of Utopia," Isaiah Berlin's Russian
Thinkers has apparently sold out across NYC. See the linked article in the
NY Times (below).
 
Cheers,
David

David Powelstock
Asst. Prof. of Russian & East European Literatures
Chair, Program in Russian & East European Studies
Brandeis University
GRALL, MS 024
Waltham, MA  02454-9110
781.736.3347 (Office) 

 

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From natalia.pylypiuk at UALBERTA.CA  Sun Jan 28 23:12:53 2007
From: natalia.pylypiuk at UALBERTA.CA (Natalia Pylypiuk)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 16:12:53 -0700
Subject: Halia Mazurenko  & the Prague School
Message-ID: <SUN.28.JAN.2007.161253.0700.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Mr. Langran and Fellow SEELANGERS,

The following monographs concern the Prague circle to which
Halia Mazurenko belonged in the inter-war period:


Pelens'ka, Oksana
Ukrajins'kyj portret na tli Prahy : ukrajins'ke mystec'ke  
seredovyšče v
mižvojennij Čecho-Slovaččyni
http://www.nkp.cz/_en/pages/page.php3?page=nejnovejsi_publikace_en.htm

Ilnyts’kyi, Mykola.
Vid ‘Molodoï muzy’ do ‘Praz’koï shkoly’ (Lviv 1995)

Prosalova, V. A.
Poeziia praz'koï shkoly. Navchal'nyi posibnyk (Donets'k: Veda, 2000)
[see: http://www.vesna.org.ua/txt/prosalovav/poeprsh.html ]

Kind regards,
Natalia Pylypiuk


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Modern Languages and Cultural Studies  http://www.mlcs.ca
200 Arts, University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada T6G 2E6
voice mail: (780) 492-3498

Canadian Association of Slavists
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From ameliede at EARTHLINK.NET  Mon Jan 29 00:42:34 2007
From: ameliede at EARTHLINK.NET (Jules Levin)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 16:42:34 -0800
Subject: Query re Russian artist - Pavel Adamovich  VELONSKY (1849-1931)
In-Reply-To: <45BCC725-8B0A-4968-A79E-871C46763E53@ualberta.ca>
Message-ID: <SUN.28.JAN.2007.164234.0800.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

An acquaintance asked me about "a Russian artist - Pavel 
Adamovich  VELONSKY (1849-1931)",
whose work was offered at Sotheby's in London.
I googled the name as you see it in Cyrillic, Russian only, and got nothing.
Has anyone heard of this chap, and how I can find out more about him?
Jules Levin

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From marydevin at GMAIL.COM  Mon Jan 29 00:45:32 2007
From: marydevin at GMAIL.COM (Devin Connolly)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 16:45:32 -0800
Subject: Isaiah Berlin in high demand
In-Reply-To: <012e01c74329$2c930060$0501a8c0@INSPIRON8600>
Message-ID: <SUN.28.JAN.2007.164532.0800.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I saw that!  I wonder what exorbitant premium I could command for the copy
that is currently gathering dust on my bookshelf.

On 1/28/07, David Powelstock <pstock at brandeis.edu> wrote:
>
> Thanks to the current production of Tom Stoppard's trilogy of plays about
> the 19th-c. intelligentsia, "The Coast of Utopia," Isaiah Berlin's Russian
> Thinkers has apparently sold out across NYC. See the linked article in the
> NY Times (below).
>
> Cheers,
> David
>
> David Powelstock
> Asst. Prof. of Russian & East European Literatures
> Chair, Program in Russian & East European Studies
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From russky at UNB.CA  Mon Jan 29 01:01:35 2007
From: russky at UNB.CA (Allan Reid)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:01:35 -0400
Subject: CFP Ioffe Readings in SPb
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>Greetings


I am forwarding this announcement of the 5th Annual Ioffe 
Readings:  "Pravo na imia.  Biografika 20-ogo veka" on behalf of the 
organizers.

Inquiries, submissions, etc., should be directed to them at the 
addresses indicated in the attachment

Best

allan reid


Allan Reid

Professor of Russian
Chair, Dept of Culture and language Studies

PO Box 4400
University of New Brunswick
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From pstock at BRANDEIS.EDU  Mon Jan 29 01:12:01 2007
From: pstock at BRANDEIS.EDU (David Powelstock)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 20:12:01 -0500
Subject: Isaiah Berlin in high demand
In-Reply-To: <985c65300701281645k347f453etdb01831d8b6f85b5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SUN.28.JAN.2007.201201.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

You should take it down to the ticket line at Rockefeller Center . . . . 


David Powelstock 
Asst. Prof. of Russian & East European Literatures 
Chair, Program in Russian & East European Studies 
Brandeis University 
GRALL, MS 024 
Waltham, MA  02454-9110 
781.736.3347 (Office) 


-----Original Message-----
From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
[mailto:SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu] On Behalf Of Devin Connolly
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 7:46 PM
To: SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Isaiah Berlin in high demand

I saw that!  I wonder what exorbitant premium I could command for the copy
that is currently gathering dust on my bookshelf.

On 1/28/07, David Powelstock <pstock at brandeis.edu> wrote:
>
> Thanks to the current production of Tom Stoppard's trilogy of plays 
> about the 19th-c. intelligentsia, "The Coast of Utopia," Isaiah 
> Berlin's Russian Thinkers has apparently sold out across NYC. See the 
> linked article in the NY Times (below).
>
> Cheers,
> David
>
> David Powelstock
> Asst. Prof. of Russian & East European Literatures Chair, Program in 
> Russian & East European Studies Brandeis University GRALL, MS 024 
> Waltham, MA  02454-9110
> 781.736.3347 (Office)
>
>
>
> _____
>
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From Alexandra.Smith at ED.AC.UK  Mon Jan 29 01:14:36 2007
From: Alexandra.Smith at ED.AC.UK (Alexandra Smith)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 01:14:36 +0000
Subject: Query re Russian artist - Pavel Adamovich  VELONSKY
 (1849-1931)
Message-ID: <MON.29.JAN.2007.011436.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Jules,

The chap's name is not Pavel!

It's PIJ Adamovich Velionsky (1849-1931); see some articles on him here:
http://www.versii.com/telegraf/print.php?id=182
http://www.librarium.ru/article_67155.htm

The Sotheby's site didn't spell his name correctly. He was a sculptor
who worked in St Petersburg. Several of his works were done for
Alexander the Third (including the statue of John the Baptist).

All best,
Alexandra


============================================
Alexandra Smith (PhD, University of London)
Lecturer in Russian
School of European Languages and Cultures
The University of Edinburgh
David Hume Tower
George Square
Edinburgh EX8 9JX
UK

tel. +44-(0)131-6511381
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From pyz at BRAMA.COM  Mon Jan 29 00:01:32 2007
From: pyz at BRAMA.COM (Max Pyziur)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 19:01:32 -0500
Subject: Halia Mazurenko  & the Prague School
In-Reply-To: <0102E97D-6A4A-4A6A-B4FF-4B1B6BADBE1E@ualberta.ca>
Message-ID: <SUN.28.JAN.2007.190132.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

On Sun, 28 Jan 2007, Natalia Pylypiuk wrote:

> Dear Mr. Langran and Fellow SEELANGERS,
>
> The following monographs concern the Prague circle to which
> Halia Mazurenko belonged in the inter-war period:
>
>
> Pelens'ka, Oksana
> Ukrajins'kyj portret na tli Prahy : ukrajins'ke mystec'ke seredovye v
> mivojennij echo-Slovayni
> http://www.nkp.cz/_en/pages/page.php3?page=nejnovejsi_publikace_en.htm

This is available at the Ukrainian Museum online shop:
http://www.ukrainianmuseum.org/shop/

Search for product id 40-5721.

Max Pyziur
pyz at brama.com

> Ilnytskyi, Mykola.
> Vid Molodoï muzy do Prazkoï shkoly (Lviv 1995)
>
> Prosalova, V. A.
> Poeziia praz'koï shkoly. Navchal'nyi posibnyk (Donets'k: Veda, 2000)
> [see: http://www.vesna.org.ua/txt/prosalovav/poeprsh.html ]
>
> Kind regards,
> Natalia Pylypiuk
>
>
> |||||||||||||||||
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> Modern Languages and Cultural Studies  http://www.mlcs.ca
> 200 Arts, University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada T6G 2E6
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>
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From e.gapova at WORLDNET.ATT.NET  Mon Jan 29 02:06:05 2007
From: e.gapova at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Elena Gapova)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:06:05 -0500
Subject: Isaiah Berlin in high demand
In-Reply-To: <015c01c74342$7b8ba3c0$0501a8c0@INSPIRON8600>
Message-ID: <SUN.28.JAN.2007.210605.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

This is like the Soviet Union, really. Popular books are impossible to get,
and there are lines to get tickets to the theatre. The status of culture is
rising...

e.g.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU]On Behalf Of David Powelstock
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 8:12 PM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Isaiah Berlin in high demand


You should take it down to the ticket line at Rockefeller Center . . . .


David Powelstock
Asst. Prof. of Russian & East European Literatures
Chair, Program in Russian & East European Studies
Brandeis University
GRALL, MS 024
Waltham, MA  02454-9110
781.736.3347 (Office)

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From natalia.pylypiuk at UALBERTA.CA  Mon Jan 29 02:14:38 2007
From: natalia.pylypiuk at UALBERTA.CA (Natalia Pylypiuk)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 19:14:38 -0700
Subject: Pij Adamovych  Velions'kyj (1849-1931)
In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.0.20070128163942.03c370e0@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <SUN.28.JAN.2007.191438.0700.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dr.Levin,

Please visit:
http://www.bezcenzury.com.ua/ua/archive/2603/2633/2635.html
http://wek.kiev.ua/wiki/index.php/ 
Хмельницькому_Богдану_пам%60ятник

Kind regards,
Natalia Pylypiuk

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Modern Languages and Cultural Studies  http://www.mlcs.ca
200 Arts, University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada T6G 2E6


On Jan 28, 2007, at 5:42 PM, Jules Levin wrote:

> An acquaintance asked me about "a Russian artist - Pavel Adamovich   
> VELONSKY (1849-1931)",
> whose work was offered at Sotheby's in London.
> I googled the name as you see it in Cyrillic, Russian only, and got  
> nothing.
> Has anyone heard of this chap, and how I can find out more about him?
> Jules Levin
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From natalia.pylypiuk at UALBERTA.CA  Sun Jan 28 20:28:01 2007
From: natalia.pylypiuk at UALBERTA.CA (Natalia Pylypiuk)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 13:28:01 -0700
Subject: the poet and painter Halya Mazurenko
In-Reply-To: <00a601c74202$6102a6c0$6403a8c0@jenny>
Message-ID: <SUN.28.JAN.2007.132801.0700.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Mr. Langran and Fellow SEELANGERS,

The fourth letter of the Ukrainian alphabet  ( Г ) is transliterated  
into English with an H,
whereas the fifth letter ( Ґ ) is rendered with a G.  Thus,  
Mazurenko's first name should be
transliterated as Halia  (Library of Congress system), or  Halja   
(Internationa Standard),
or Halya (British and various other anglophone systems).

There is a brief entry on the poet and painter Halia Mazurenko in the  
III Volume of the *Encyclopedia of
Ukraine* (CIUS & University of Toronto, 1993), which enumerates her  
collections of poetry
and features a photograph. The following articles might be a good  
place to start for studying
Halia Mazurenko's legacy:
(1)  "Halia Mazurenko (Boholiubova Halyna Serhiïvna)" in
Dnipropetrovshchyna: rehional'nyi informatsiinyi portal
http://irp.dp.ua/site/topicitem.jsp? 
category_id=58850801&item_id=201713134

(2) Myroslav Makarevych, "V poshukakh vtrachenoï intelihentsiï..  
cherez pryzmu doli
odniieï rodyny,"  *Dzerkalo tyzhnia*, 9-15  hrudnia 2000
http://www.zn.kiev.ua/nn/show/321/29693/    [There is a Russian  
version of this article:
http://www.zerkalo-nedeli.com/nn/show/321/29693/ ]

(3) Alena Moravkova, "Oksana Liaturyns'ka i Halia Mazurenko --  
studentky Ukraïns'koï studiï
plastychnoho mystetstva,"  *Ukraïns'ke mystets'ke seredovyshche v  
mizhvoiennii
Chekhoslovachchyni  (Praha [Prague], 2005) pp. 163-168

(4) Also, In *Ukraïins'ke zhyttia v Sevastopoli*
http://ukrlife.org/main/evshan/teliha_100about.htm
there is an article about the Ukrainian poet Olena Teliha (who was  
shot in Babyn Iar), in which
her circle of friends, including Halia Mazurenko, is mentioned.

Also, I suggest perusing the following publications:
1) the official organ of the Institute of Literature, *Slovo i chas,*  
which
is published in Kyiv.  I recall reading about Halia Mazurenko in one  
of the 2003 issues.
2) the almanac *Sicheslavshchyna*, which is published by the  
Dnipropetrovsk branch of the
*Vseukraïns'ka spilka kraieznavtsiv* and the *Dnipropetrovs'ka  
oblasna naukova biblioteka.*
3)  the journal *Sicheslav*
4) the site of the Dinipropetrovs'ka tsentral'na mis'ka biblioteka

I would also consider articles on the Prague school of Ukrainian  
poets.  Google has quite a few entries
in Ukrainian (and some in Russian) on Halia Mazurenko.  Good luck!

Natalia Pylypiuk (University of Alberta)

On Jan 27, 2007, at 4:00 AM, Jenny Carr wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Langran
> To: RUSSIAN-TEACHING at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 8:04 PM
> Subject: Galya Mazurenko
>
> Dear colleages
>
> Does anyone know of any current research on the Ukrainian 20C poet  
> Galya Mazurenko? Does anyone have a particular interest in her  
> work? Her granddaughter who is learning Russian has asked me to  
> find out anything I can.
>
> John Langran
> Ruslan Limited, 19 Highfield Road, Moseley, Birmingham, B13 9HL
> 00 44 (0) 121 449 1578
> www.ruslan.co.uk
>

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From: josephine.vonzitzewitz at ST-JOHNS.OXFORD.AC.UK (Josephine Vonzitzewitz)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 11:19:50 +0000
Subject: CFP Ioffe Readings in SPb
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From pstock at BRANDEIS.EDU  Sun Jan 28 22:10:51 2007
From: pstock at BRANDEIS.EDU (David Powelstock)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 17:10:51 -0500
Subject: Isaiah Berlin in high demand
Message-ID: <SUN.28.JAN.2007.171051.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Thanks to the current production of Tom Stoppard's trilogy of plays about
the 19th-c. intelligentsia, "The Coast of Utopia," Isaiah Berlin's Russian
Thinkers has apparently sold out across NYC. See the linked article in the
NY Times (below).
 
Cheers,
David

David Powelstock
Asst. Prof. of Russian & East European Literatures
Chair, Program in Russian & East European Studies
Brandeis University
GRALL, MS 024
Waltham, MA  02454-9110
781.736.3347 (Office) 

 

  _____  

From: emailthis at ms3.lga2.nytimes.com [mailto:emailthis at ms3.lga2.nytimes.com]
On Behalf Of rfmiller at brandeis.edu
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 5:06 PM
To: powelstock at brandeis.edu
Subject: NYTimes.com: From Unread to in Demand, Thanks to 'Utopia'


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From pstock at BRANDEIS.EDU  Mon Jan 29 16:12:13 2007
From: pstock at BRANDEIS.EDU (David Powelstock)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 11:12:13 -0500
Subject: Isaiah Berlin in high demand
In-Reply-To: <012e01c74329$2c930060$0501a8c0@INSPIRON8600>
Message-ID: <MON.29.JAN.2007.111213.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I did not in fact send this a second time. SEELANGS seems to be acting up.
David 


David Powelstock 
Asst. Prof. of Russian & East European Literatures 
Chair, Program in Russian & East European Studies 
Brandeis University 
GRALL, MS 024 
Waltham, MA  02454-9110 
781.736.3347 (Office) 


-----Original Message-----
From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
[mailto:SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu] On Behalf Of David Powelstock
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 5:11 PM
To: SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu
Subject: [SEELANGS] Isaiah Berlin in high demand

Thanks to the current production of Tom Stoppard's trilogy of plays about
the 19th-c. intelligentsia, "The Coast of Utopia," Isaiah Berlin's Russian
Thinkers has apparently sold out across NYC. See the linked article in the
NY Times (below).
 
Cheers,
David

David Powelstock
Asst. Prof. of Russian & East European Literatures Chair, Program in Russian
& East European Studies Brandeis University GRALL, MS 024 Waltham, MA
02454-9110
781.736.3347 (Office) 

 

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From lino59 at AMERITECH.NET  Mon Jan 29 17:38:51 2007
From: lino59 at AMERITECH.NET (Deborah Hoffman)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 09:38:51 -0800
Subject: copyright of magazine articles, specifically Ogonek
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Dorogie Seelangovtsi,
  I have a friend involved in acquiring permissions for including articles from Ogonek in a textbook who has been unsuccessful in obtaining a response from the magazine itself. Does anyone know in general whether copyright to such articles would tend to remain with the author or with the publication?  Or does it vary widely by publication? 
  Thanks in advance,
  Deborah Hoffman

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From pilch at UIUC.EDU  Mon Jan 29 18:47:11 2007
From: pilch at UIUC.EDU (Janice Pilch)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 12:47:11 -0600
Subject: copyright of magazine articles, specifically Ogonek
Message-ID: <MON.29.JAN.2007.124711.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Deborah,

It was common practice during the Soviet era (and even today it is common practice in Russia and all over the world) for authors to sign their rights over to publishers in the publishing contract. Things are beginning to change, with authors retaining control over copyrights or establishing open access licenses, but the likelihood is that the copyright was transfered to the publisher in the publishing contract if this is an older work.

You can never know for sure. Sometimes publishers claim rights that they don't own, and of course there is always the possibility that the publisher has sold to another legal entity the rights for publication/distribution of its articles in other countries. One of the most frustrating aspects of copyright today is the lack of information on current copyright ownership.

I suggest that your friend document the attempts to obtain permission, make 3-4 attempts, and in the event that problems arise later, that documentation will weigh heavily against an infringement claim, although it is not a guarantee. I would suggest contacting Copyrus, Russia's collection management agency, to see if they can offer advice or obtain the permissions for you, but I think that their status is in jeopardy right now for the way they conduct business, in light of new changes to the law, and they might not be the most reliable source. There is no easy answer here, except to keep trying with Ogonek, and also with the author if he/she is still alive and remembers the terms of the publishing contract.

Because I am not an attorney, and do not have a law degree, I must add the disclaimer that this message should not be interpreted as legal advice. But if more questions arise, please feel free to contact me, I might have more suggestions.

Best regards,

Janice Pilch

---- Original message ----
>Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 09:38:51 -0800
>From: Deborah Hoffman <lino59 at AMERITECH.NET>  
>Subject: [SEELANGS] copyright of magazine articles, specifically Ogonek  
>To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
>
>Dorogie Seelangovtsi,
>  I have a friend involved in acquiring permissions for including articles from Ogonek in a textbook who has been unsuccessful in obtaining a response from the magazine itself. Does anyone know in general whether copyright to such articles would tend to remain with the author or with the publication?  Or does it vary widely by publication? 
>  Thanks in advance,
>  Deborah Hoffman
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From sdawes at AMERICANCOUNCILS.ORG  Mon Jan 29 18:58:00 2007
From: sdawes at AMERICANCOUNCILS.ORG (Sheila Dawes)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 13:58:00 -0500
Subject: ACTR NEH Collaborative Research Fellowship, FEB 15 Deadline
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National Endowment for the Humanities Grants for Collaborative Research
in Eastern Europe and Eurasia.

American Councils for International Education: ACTR/ACCELS and the
National Council for Eurasian and East European Research (NCEEER) are
currently accepting applications for the 2007-2008 NEH Collaborative
Humanities Fellowship. Applications can be downloaded from the website
(www.americancouncils.org); all applications are due by February 15,
2007.

Full and partial fellowships are available through American Councils
and NCEEER from National Endowment for the Humanities grant support.
Fellowships provide up to $40,000 for four to nine months of research in
Eastern Europe and Eurasia.  Proposals must include plans to work with a
least one collaborator in the field. Especially encouraged are
applications with a strong regional focus and the potential to broaden
and strengthen international academic linkages beyond the traditional
centers such as Moscow, St. Petersburg, Warsaw, and Prague.

The merit-based competition is open to all U.S. post-doctoral scholars
in the humanities and most social sciences, including such disciplines
as anthropology, modern and classical languages, history, linguistics,
literature, jurisprudence, philosophy, political science, archaeology,
comparative religion, sociology, and ethics. U.S. citizenship, permanent
resident status, or residency in the U.S. for three years before date of
application is required.  

Application Deadline: February 15, 2007 

For more information and an application, please contact:

Outbound Programs
American Councils for International Education: ACTR/ACCELS
1776 Massachusetts Avenue, N.W.
Suite 700
Washington, D.C. 20036
Phone: (202) 833-7522
Website: www.americancouncils.org 
Email: outbound at americancouncils.org 

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From jamercha at GMAIL.COM  Mon Jan 29 19:00:32 2007
From: jamercha at GMAIL.COM (John Merchant)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 13:00:32 -0600
Subject: copyright of magazine articles, specifically Ogonek
In-Reply-To: <20070129173851.78496.qmail@web80605.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <MON.29.JAN.2007.130032.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear Ms. Hoffman,

I have done quite a bit of copyright work, and I would say that it
varies widely by publication. One simple thing you can do is to look
on the credit pages of the textbook to see if they cite ownership of
the text rights. Quite often a magazine publisher will have first
publication rights, with all subsequent rights reverting to the
author. If the article was commissioned by the magazine or if the
publishers think it will be a recurring piece, the magazine publishers
might want to maintain ownership of the rights. I would suggest trying
two tacks: asking the magazine editors for help in contacting the
author and searching for the author on-line yourself.

Good luck.

John Merchant

On 1/29/07, Deborah Hoffman <lino59 at ameritech.net> wrote:
> Dorogie Seelangovtsi,
>   I have a friend involved in acquiring permissions for including articles from Ogonek in a textbook who has been unsuccessful in obtaining a response from the magazine itself. Does anyone know in general whether copyright to such articles would tend to remain with the author or with the publication?  Or does it vary widely by publication?
>   Thanks in advance,
>   Deborah Hoffman
>
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From AFisher at WOOSTER.EDU  Mon Jan 29 21:13:52 2007
From: AFisher at WOOSTER.EDU (Anne Fisher)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:13:52 -0500
Subject: Study Abroad for non-language student?
Message-ID: <MON.29.JAN.2007.161352.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Hello SEELANGers,

I have a student who is majoring in International Relations and would  
like to fulfill her study-abroad component of her major (at least 8  
weeks) somewhere in Russia.

The thing is, she has never studied Russian and, while she is not  
uninterested in beginning to study Russian on her trip, the main  
component of the trip would need to be culture/politics courses in  
English.

She's more interested in a 2-3 month summer program than a semester  
abroad, although with a language component ensuring basic Russian  
she's willing to consider a semester in Russia too.

Can anyone recommend a program?

Thanks in advance for your help,

Annie Fisher
________________________

Anne O. Fisher
Visiting Assistant Professor and Chair
Russian Studies
The College of Wooster
afisher at wooster.edu
330-263-2166
________________________

"The academy responds to the demands of disciplines and faculty. It  
is a culture that cherishes independence and freedom. And it is a  
culture seriously out of touch with much of America." - from an op-ed  
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From jknox at BOWDOIN.EDU  Mon Jan 29 21:27:36 2007
From: jknox at BOWDOIN.EDU (Jane Knox-Voina)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:27:36 -0500
Subject: Shilova on music
In-Reply-To: <web-8606915@wheatonma.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.29.JAN.2007.162736.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Can anybody advise how to find Shilova's articles or writings on film 
music? Can you also any specific texts of Lotman on film music?

Jane Knox-Voina
Binur Kengirbaeva
Bowdoin College


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From Alexandra.Smith at ED.AC.UK  Mon Jan 29 21:50:30 2007
From: Alexandra.Smith at ED.AC.UK (Alexandra Smith)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 21:50:30 +0000
Subject: CALL FOR PAPERS-EXTREMISM AND XENOPHOBIA AMONG YOUTH THROUGH
 PRISM OF TRANSNATIONAL
In-Reply-To: <E9384149-46F9-4C43-AF40-5ADD698C9D7F@wooster.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.29.JAN.2007.215030.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear colleagues,

The below advert is related to the forthcoming workshop on youth and  
extremism which will take place in St Petersburg in March 2007. It  
might be of interest to some of you. Please reply to the organisers if  
you need further information.

All best,
Alexandra Smith

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Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 11:25:59 +0200
     From: Arseniy Svynarenko <arseniy.Svynarenko at helsinki.fi>
Reply-To: Arseniy Svynarenko <arseniy.Svynarenko at helsinki.fi>

   CALL FOR PAPERS



   EXTREMISM AND XENOPHOBIA AMONG YOUTH THROUGH PRISM OF TRANSNATIONAL
STUDIES



   16-18 MACH, 2007

   Centre for German and European Studies, St. Petersburg, Russia

   The Centre for German and European Studies at St. Petersburg State
University with the participation of SRC ?Region? at Ulyanovsk State
University invites papers FOR THE WORKSHOP to be held in St.
Petersburg, Russia. We are seeking empirical or theoretical papers on
the growth of xenophobia among youth in the postsoviet space. However
comparative papers or papers discussing theoretical/methodological
principles of transnational studies of extremism among youth in
Russia and Europe are welcome, as are manuscripts analyzing reasons
for the growth of fears of strangers (global migration, new forms of
social exclusion and inequality, specific types of participation and
solidarity etc.) or papers on particular extremist groups among
youth.

   Papers should focus on issues facing ?LOCAL? MANIFESTATIONS AND
SOCIAL CONTEXTS OF THE GROWTH OF XENOPHOBIA AMONG YOUTH, connected
with one of the follow questions:

   * Social geography of xenophobia and its appearances: typical
postsoviet or authentic, east/west or global

   ·         Factors and social mechanisms of construction

   ·         Regional events and global panics

   * Local and global extremist youth scenes
   * Features of field work and research methods: strangers among
strangers
   * Research politics and practices around the theme on xenophobia
and extremism among youth: language, research instruments, ethic
issues

   The themes of round-tables are follow: ?Xenophobia in Russian and
in European style: unique experience or common challenges??,
?Perspectives and limits of transnational comparative researches?,
?Anti-anti-anti fascists. New calls and old names of youth
extremism?.

   We invite researches, members of non-government organizations,
officials and journalists, interested in this theme, to take part in
the workshop.

   Each presenter will be given 15-20 minutes to present his/her paper
on thematic sessions or about 5-10 minutes to present a statement for
discussion on round tables. Please send a 500 word abstract and
filled application form (address indicated below) with the mark
?Call?. /We apologize for the late call and ready to consider
applications from foreign participants, those who will need visa and
flight reservation, earlier.    /

   On the base of abstracts the organizing committee will form the
final list of participants and inform them in February. These
participants are expected to submit presentation-length drafts
(2500-3000 words) by 10 March, so that all participants will have the
opportunity to read the papers of other participants before the
workshop begins. Given the short notice of this call for papers, we
do not expect publication-length texts by the time of the workshop,
but afterwards for publication.

   Workshop languages are Russian and English. The language choice is
voluntarily. However, take notice, that those, who will report on
English, should prepare a Power Point presentation on Russian, and
otherwise: those, who will report on Russian, should prepare a Power
Point presentation on English*. It is important for the full
inclusion of all participants at the context of discussion.

   Unfortunately, organizers of workshop can not compensate travel
expenses and accommodation for participants from Western Europe.
There are limited resources for accommodation in exceptional cases.

   /Organizing committee of workshop: /

   Kaizer Markus ? Doctor of Sociology, Director of the Centre for
German and European Studies at St. Petersburg State University.

   Omelchenko Elena ? Doctor of Sociology, Director of the SRC
?Region? at Ulyanovsk State University

   Pilkington Hilary ? Prof. Dr. of Sociology, Warwick University

   Skvortzov Nikolay ? Professor of Sociology, Dean of Sociological
Department at St. Petersburg State University

   Yaroshenko Svetlana ? Candidate of Sociology, Head of Research at
the Centre for German and European Studies.



   For further information, please contact: Sabirova Guzel <
gsabirova at yahoo.com >



   *In some cases organizers are ready to help with translation.

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From natalia.pylypiuk at UALBERTA.CA  Mon Jan 29 07:10:34 2007
From: natalia.pylypiuk at UALBERTA.CA (Natalia Pylypiuk)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 00:10:34 -0700
Subject: Pius Weloński  (aka Pij Adamovych Velions'kyj )
In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.0.20070128185749.03c68c30@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <MON.29.JAN.2007.001034.0700.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Colleagues:

A subject of the Russian empire, Pij Adamovych Velions'kyj, was in fact
a Polish sculptor.  Pius Weloński is his name in Polish.

See:
http://www.warsawvoice.pl/archiwum.phtml/7906/
http://www.zwoje-scrolls.com/enchant/monuments/e192.html
http://www.muzeum.krakow.pl/About-the-museum.61.0.html?&L=1

Regards,
N Pylypiuk
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From zielinski at GMX.CH  Mon Jan 29 08:24:50 2007
From: zielinski at GMX.CH (Zielinski)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 09:24:50 +0100
Subject: Query re Russian artist - Pavel Adamovich  VELONSKY
 (1849-1931)
Message-ID: <MON.29.JAN.2007.092450.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

> An acquaintance asked me about "a Russian artist - Pavel
> Adamovich  VELONSKY (1849-1931)"

In Poland he is known as Pius Welonski (1849-1931), Polish academic
sculptor. See:

http://www.culture.pl/pl/culture/artykuly/os_welonski_pius

Hope that helps,

Jan Zielinski

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From pstock at BRANDEIS.EDU  Tue Jan 30 01:19:39 2007
From: pstock at BRANDEIS.EDU (David Powelstock)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 20:19:39 -0500
Subject: Article on Russia in The New Yorker
Message-ID: <MON.29.JAN.2007.201939.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

There's an article by Michael Specter in the Jan 29 issue of The New Yorker. Nothing especially new in the article, but it distills many of the more distressing recent trends in the country down to a piquant attar of grimness. A must-read, I think, for anyone who hasn't been keeping track of developments under Stalinism Putinesca. Unlike the Kundera article, this one's available online, at http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/070129fa_fact_specter.

Cheers,
David

David Powelstock 
Asst. Prof. of Russian & East European Literatures 
Chair, Program in Russian & East European Studies 
Brandeis University 
GRALL, MS 024 
Waltham, MA  02454-9110 
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From rar at SLAVIC.UMASS.EDU  Tue Jan 30 01:39:51 2007
From: rar at SLAVIC.UMASS.EDU (Robert A. Rothstein)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 20:39:51 -0500
Subject: Pius Welo=?UTF-8?Q?=C5=84ski?=  (aka Pij Adamov ych
 Velions'kyj )
In-Reply-To: <33BAC2E8-CF25-4B55-853F-D57C1894594F@ualberta.ca>
Message-ID: <MON.29.JAN.2007.203951.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Natalia Pylypiuk wrote:
> Colleagues:
>
> A subject of the Russian empire, Pij Adamovych Velions'kyj, was in fact
> a Polish sculptor.  Pius Weloński is his name in Polish.
>
> See:
> http://www.warsawvoice.pl/archiwum.phtml/7906/
> http://www.zwoje-scrolls.com/enchant/monuments/e192.html
> http://www.muzeum.krakow.pl/About-the-museum.61.0.html?&L=1
>
Also (a biographical account, but in Polish): 
http://www.culture.pl/pl/culture/artykuly/os_welonski_pius.

Bob Rothstein

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From Alexandra.Smith at ED.AC.UK  Tue Jan 30 08:06:30 2007
From: Alexandra.Smith at ED.AC.UK (Alexandra Smith)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 08:06:30 +0000
Subject: Article in the New Yorker,
 a quintessentially English teapot and London panic
Message-ID: <TUE.30.JAN.2007.080630.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear colleagues,

Just to add another dimension to the article in The New Yorker  
mentioned ealier...

The article in The New Yorker on Russia published on 29.01. 2007  
mentions the Russian TV coverage of the news regards Litvinenko's  
death that dismisses all UK reports on him as London Panic.
Just as an example of this panic see a short article from The  
independent published on 28.01. 2007 -- "The poisoned teapot".


from The Independent & The Independent on Sunday


The poisoned teaplot: Polonium reading from hotel 'off the scale'
Radioactive teapot 'almost certainly used to kill Alexander Litvinenko  
was used to serve guests for several weeks after becoming contaminated'

By Andrew Johnson
Published: 28 January 2007
Detectives investigating one of the murkiest international crimes ever  
to hit Britain - the murder of the former Russian spy Alexander  
Litvinenko - believe a quintessentially English teapot is at the  
centre of the web of intrigue.

Test results from the Millennium Hotel in Piccadilly, central London,  
were said by sources yesterday to show a teapot was "off the scale" in  
readings for polonium 210, the radioactive isotope used to poison the  
Russian exile at the hotel on 1 November.

Police yesterday refused to comment on the reports, which also said  
the teapot was not tested until the second week of December, six weeks  
after the poisoning. The still-radioactive teapot would have been used  
to serve potentially hundreds of other guests.

Mr Litvinenko's widow, Marina, confirmed that when her husband arrived  
at the hotel his tea was already poured. "He later said the tea wasn't  
very tasty, 'because it was cold'." It now appears that tea had been  
poured from a pot thatthe killer had managed to contaminate.

Police, understood to be "embarrassed" by the oversight in testing the  
teapot, now believe they have enough evidence to issue an arrest  
warrant for Andrei Lugovoi, a businessman and former KGB agent. In  
Russia, he yesterday dismissed accusations as "lies, provocation and  
government propaganda by the UK." The Russian constitution does not  
allow extradition for alleged crimes committed abroad.

On his death bed, Mr Litvinenko claimed that President Vladimir Putin  
and the Kremlin had orchestrated his death because of his outspoken  
criticism of Russia's leadership.

It was initially thought Mr Litvinenko, 43, had been poisoned during a  
meeting with his Italian contact, Mario Scaramella. The Itsu Sushi bar  
did show traces of polonium 210, but not where the two men sat. He had  
met Mr Lugovoi in October at the sushi bar, where it is believed  
poisoning was first attempted.

Hotel rooms Mr Lugovoi occupied in London were contaminated with  
polonium 210; traces were also found at the Arsenal stadium where he  
had watched a matchthe day Mr Litvinenko was poisoned and on the plane  
Mr Lugovoi boarded for a flight to Moscow.

If the police have got the right man, the question is whether he acted  
out of personal antipathy or was obeying orders. Some reports  
yesterday claimed police have concluded the killing was  
"state-sponsored". A spokesman for Mr Putin, however, said: "Russia  
has not done it and it is absurd even to think about it."


============================================
Alexandra Smith (PhD, University of London)
Lecturer in Russian
School of European Languages and Cultures
The University of Edinburgh
David Hume Tower
George Square
Edinburgh EX8 9JX
UK

tel. +44-(0)131-6511381
fax: +44- (0)131- 650-3604
e-mail: Alexandra.Smith at ed.ac.uk

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From jennifercarr at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK  Tue Jan 30 08:53:08 2007
From: jennifercarr at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Jenny Carr)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 08:53:08 -0000
Subject: Article on Russia in The New Yorker
Message-ID: <TUE.30.JAN.2007.085308.0000.JENNIFERCARR@BLUEYONDER.CO.UK>

Another interesting recent article (Perry Anderson in London Review of Books
25 Jan 07) - http://www.lrb.co.uk/v29/n02/ande01_.html

Jenny Carr

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Powelstock" <pstock at BRANDEIS.EDU>
To: <SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 1:19 AM
Subject: [SEELANGS] Article on Russia in The New Yorker


There's an article by Michael Specter in the Jan 29 issue of The New Yorker.
Nothing especially new in the article, but it distills many of the more
distressing recent trends in the country down to a piquant attar of
grimness. A must-read, I think, for anyone who hasn't been keeping track of
developments under Stalinism Putinesca. Unlike the Kundera article, this
one's available online, at
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/070129fa_fact_specter.

Cheers,
David

David Powelstock
Asst. Prof. of Russian & East European Literatures
Chair, Program in Russian & East European Studies
Brandeis University
GRALL, MS 024
Waltham, MA  02454-9110
781.736.3347 (Office)



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From alerosa at HOL.GR  Tue Jan 30 13:04:35 2007
From: alerosa at HOL.GR (Alexandra Ioannidou)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:04:35 +0200
Subject: capital punishment in Russia
Message-ID: <TUE.30.JAN.2007.150435.0200.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Can anyone recommend some recent bibliography (articles etc.) on the current 
discussion on capital punishment in Russia? Thanks in advance! Alexandra 

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From Alexandra.Smith at ED.AC.UK  Tue Jan 30 14:36:37 2007
From: Alexandra.Smith at ED.AC.UK (Alexandra Smith)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:36:37 +0000
Subject: capital punishment in Russia
In-Reply-To: <010601c7446f$314eb990$14b2a8c0@your79e95daf60>
Message-ID: <TUE.30.JAN.2007.143637.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Quoting Alexandra Ioannidou <alerosa at HOL.GR>:

> Can anyone recommend some recent bibliography (articles etc.) on the
> current discussion on capital punishment in Russia? Thanks in advance!
> Alexandra

--See the Russian website that has lots of recently published articles  
in Russian regards this (smertnaia  
kazn'):http://www.hro.org/editions/death/index.php

All best,
Alexandra

============================================================

Alexandra Smith (PhD, University of London)
Lecturer in Russian
School of European Languages and Cultures
The University of Edinburgh
David Hume Tower
George Square
Edinburgh EX8 9JX
UK

tel. +44-(0)131-6511381
fax: +44- (0)131- 650-3604
e-mail: Alexandra.Smith at ed.ac.uk


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From mclason at UCHICAGO.EDU  Tue Jan 30 16:00:12 2007
From: mclason at UCHICAGO.EDU (Meredith Clason)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 10:00:12 -0600
Subject: Final Call for Abstracts: 27th Annual Slavic Forum at the
 University of Chicago!
Message-ID: <TUE.30.JAN.2007.100012.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

*27th Annual Slavic Forum at the University of Chicago

*
The graduate students in the Slavic Department at the University of 
Chicago issue a call for papers for the 27th annual Slavic Forum.  The 
conference will be held at the Franke Institute on the University of 
Chicago campus on April 20-21.  Graduate students are encouraged to 
submit abstracts of 250 words dealing with any subject in Slavic 
studies, including linguistics, literature, and interdisciplinary.  
Examples and references are not included in the word count.  All talks 
will be for 20 minutes, plus 10 minutes for discussion.

Please submit your abstracts to slavicforum at humanities.uchicago.edu 
<mailto:slavicforum at humanities.uchicago.edu> by February 1st, 2007.  All 
abstracts should be sent as attachments in Word or PDF.  Please put your 
name and affiliation at the top of the abstract but not in the body, so 
that we may make them anonymous for refereeing and easily identify them 
afterwards.  All abstracts will be refereed and participants will be 
notified by mid February.

Any questions should be submitted to the address above.  Information 
will also be posted on the website 
http://humanities.uchicago.edu/orgs/slavicforum.  We look forward to 
hearing from you.

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From maptekman at GMAIL.COM  Tue Jan 30 16:04:54 2007
From: maptekman at GMAIL.COM (Marina Aptekman)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 11:04:54 -0500
Subject: SEELANGS Digest - 27 Jan 2007 to 28 Jan 2007 - Special issue
 (#2007-38)
In-Reply-To: <SEELANGS%200701281959371560.03A6@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
Message-ID: <TUE.30.JAN.2007.110454.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Just curious - does anyone kow anything about Ida Vysotsky, the
daughter of prominent tea merchant and the girl to whom Pasternak's
"Marburg" was written? He biography in most books ends right after her
break with pasternak - but what happened later to her? Wyssotzky Tea
now exists in Israel but she moved to Palestine after revolution too?
Or did she live in Paris or America?

I very much want to know but the info on the web is very limited.

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From zielinski at GMX.CH  Tue Jan 30 16:41:12 2007
From: zielinski at GMX.CH (Zielinski)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:41:12 +0100
Subject: SEELANGS Digest - 27 Jan 2007 to 28 Jan 2007 - Special issue
 (#2007-38)
Message-ID: <TUE.30.JAN.2007.174112.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Marina Aptekman:

> Just curious - does anyone kow anything about Ida Vysotsky, the
> daughter of prominent tea merchant and the girl to whom Pasternak's
> "Marburg" was written? He biography in most books ends right after her
> break with pasternak - but what happened later to her? Wyssotzky Tea
> now exists in Israel but she moved to Palestine after revolution too?
> Or did she live in Paris or America?

She married in 1917 a banker from Kiev, Emmanuel Fel'dzer, in 1918 they left
for Siberia, in the twenties she was living in Berlin, in the thirties in
Paris; she also functioed as an intermediary in the correspondence between
Pasternak and Rilke. She was still alive in 1975. See Guy de Mallac,
Pasternak and Marburg, "Russian Review" 38, 4, 327ff and Jacqueline de
Proyart, Une amitié d'enfance, Colloque Boris Pasternak, Cerisy-la-Salle,
September 1975.

Hope that helps,

Jan Zielinski

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From Alexandra.Smith at ED.AC.UK  Tue Jan 30 19:18:06 2007
From: Alexandra.Smith at ED.AC.UK (Alexandra Smith)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 19:18:06 +0000
Subject: the Bulgarian version of Madame Bovary
In-Reply-To: <00e301c7444c$111e4c30$6403a8c0@jenny>
Message-ID: <TUE.30.JAN.2007.191806.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear colleagues,

First of all, many thanks to Tatiana Buzina for helping me to locate  
Sokurov's film in such a prompt manner!.. A TV version of the film  
exists in some stores in St Petersburg and Moscow, and a friend of  
mine has bought me a copy already.
Secondly, I will be very grateful if someone could help me and one PhD  
student from the Univ. of Edinburgh to find the Bulgarian adaption of  
the novel.
The Bulgarian adaptation is called 'Madame Bovary from
Sliven' and it is by Emil Tsanev (Madame Bovary ot Sliven, Boyana Film  
Studios 1991, commissioned by the Bulgarian National Television).  
Perhaps somebody has a TV copy of it?
thank you for any help and/or advice.

All very best,
Alexandra


----------------------------------------
Alexandra Smith (PhD, University of London)
Lecturer in Russian
School of European Languages and Cultures
The University of Edinburgh
David Hume Tower
George Square
Edinburgh EX8 9JX
UK

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fax: +44- (0)131- 650-3604
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From lzaharkov at WITTENBERG.EDU  Tue Jan 30 23:21:25 2007
From: lzaharkov at WITTENBERG.EDU (Lila W. Zaharkov)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:21:25 -0500
Subject: Study Abroad for non-language student?
In-Reply-To: <E9384149-46F9-4C43-AF40-5ADD698C9D7F@wooster.edu>
Message-ID: <TUE.30.JAN.2007.182125.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

At 04:13 PM 01/29/2007, you wrote:


Intercontact in Tver takes you in the summer without any languyge 
background. it is NOT Delta tvER.
>Hello SEELANGers,
>
>I have a student who is majoring in International Relations and would
>like to fulfill her study-abroad component of her major (at least 8
>weeks) somewhere in Russia.
>
>The thing is, she has never studied Russian and, while she is not
>uninterested in beginning to study Russian on her trip, the main
>component of the trip would need to be culture/politics courses in
>English.
>
>She's more interested in a 2-3 month summer program than a semester
>abroad, although with a language component ensuring basic Russian
>she's willing to consider a semester in Russia too.
>
>Can anyone recommend a program?
>
>Thanks in advance for your help,
>
>Annie Fisher
>________________________
>
>Anne O. Fisher
>Visiting Assistant Professor and Chair
>Russian Studies
>The College of Wooster
>afisher at wooster.edu
>330-263-2166
>________________________
>
>"The academy responds to the demands of disciplines and faculty. It
>is a culture that cherishes independence and freedom. And it is a
>culture seriously out of touch with much of America." - from an op-ed
>piece on higher education in the New York TImes, October 11, 2006
>
>
>
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From H.P.Houtzagers at RUG.NL  Tue Jan 30 23:43:46 2007
From: H.P.Houtzagers at RUG.NL (H.P.Houtzagers)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 00:43:46 +0100
Subject: all birchbark letters online: gramoty.ru
Message-ID: <WED.31.JAN.2007.004346.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear SEELANGers,

my colleague Jos Schaeken asked me to draw your attention 
to a website that was launched very recently and on which 
you can find a wealth of information on the birchbark 
letters from Novgorod and other Russian towns, which, as 
we all know, for the past few decades have been changing 
the face of East Slavic historical linguistics.

The address of the site is http://gramoty.ru (without 
www). It contains not only photographs, "prorisi" and 
translations of all published birchbark letters, including 
recently excavated ones, but also historical, 
archeological, bibliographic and linguistic comments on 
almost every one of them. I personally think it is very 
impressive, not to say amazing.

The site forms part of the INTAS project “Birchbark 
Literacy from Medieval Rus: Contents and Contexts”. You 
will find more information on the project and team 
involved in it on the site.

Enjoy!

Peter Houtzagers

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From marc at ADLERPACIFIC.COM  Wed Jan 31 02:52:50 2007
From: marc at ADLERPACIFIC.COM (Marc Adler)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 20:52:50 -0600
Subject: all birchbark letters online: gramoty.ru
In-Reply-To: <web-35921285@mail3.rug.nl>
Message-ID: <TUE.30.JAN.2007.205250.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

H.P.Houtzagers(e)k dio:

> historical, archeological, bibliographic and linguistic comments on 
> almost every one of them. I personally think it is very impressive, not 
> to say amazing.

Has anyone successfully gotten the NovgorodATE font to display? I 
downloaded it and installed it in my fonts folder, but all I get are 
question marks (Firefox) and little boxes (IE).

-- 
Marc Adler
marc at adlerpacific.com

Ошибок нет, за исключением
абсолютного незнания материала.

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From annac at UALBERTA.CA  Wed Jan 31 03:20:24 2007
From: annac at UALBERTA.CA (Anna Chilewska)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 20:20:24 -0700
Subject: in search of reviewers
Message-ID: <TUE.30.JAN.2007.202024.0700.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Dear All,
I was wondering if anyone would be willing to review an upcoming  
publication titled "After the Gaze: The Rupture of the Historical."  
The publication contains 8 articles on various topics, half of which  
deals with Slavics. The publication has already been peer-reviewed,  
and all I need is a little blurb that could go on the back cover.
Warmest wishes,
Anna Chilewska (University of Alberta)

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From boris.dagaev at GMAIL.COM  Wed Jan 31 04:20:50 2007
From: boris.dagaev at GMAIL.COM (Boris Dagaev)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 23:20:50 -0500
Subject: all birchbark letters online: gramoty.ru
In-Reply-To: <45C00482.5010406@adlerpacific.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.30.JAN.2007.232050.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

> Has anyone successfully gotten the NovgorodATE font to display? I
> downloaded it and installed it in my fonts folder, but all I get are
> question marks (Firefox) and little boxes (IE).

Works for me (Firefox 2, IE 7)


On 1/30/07, Marc Adler <marc at adlerpacific.com> wrote:
> H.P.Houtzagers(e)k dio:
>
> > historical, archeological, bibliographic and linguistic comments on
> > almost every one of them. I personally think it is very impressive, not
> > to say amazing.
>
> Has anyone successfully gotten the NovgorodATE font to display? I
> downloaded it and installed it in my fonts folder, but all I get are
> question marks (Firefox) and little boxes (IE).
>
> --
> Marc Adler
> marc at adlerpacific.com
>
> Ошибок нет, за исключением
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From iradzeva at GMAIL.COM  Wed Jan 31 09:55:04 2007
From: iradzeva at GMAIL.COM (Iryna Prykarpatska)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 10:55:04 +0100
Subject: all birchbark letters online: gramoty.ru
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By the way, you can also find some very old chronicles here:
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From machmutj at OAKLAND.EDU  Wed Jan 31 14:47:47 2007
From: machmutj at OAKLAND.EDU (Tamara Machmut-Jhashi)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:47:47 -0500
Subject: SEELANGS Digest - 29 Jan 2007 to 30 Jan 2007 (#2007-42)
Message-ID: <WED.31.JAN.2007.094747.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

How does open a 'cid' file on a MAC operating system?

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>                         SEELANGS
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>SEELANGS Digest - 29 Jan 2007 to 30 Jan 2007 (#2007-42)
>
>  Table of contents:
>
>     * Article in the New Yorker, a quintessentially
>       English teapot and London panic
>     * Article on Russia in The New Yorker
>     * capital punishment in Russia (2)
>     * Final Call for Abstracts: 27th Annual Slavic
>       Forum at the University of Chicago!
>     * SEELANGS Digest - 27 Jan 2007 to 28 Jan 2007 -
>       Special issue (#2007-38) (2)
>     * the Bulgarian version of Madame Bovary
>     * Study Abroad for non-language student?
>     * all birchbark letters online: gramoty.ru (3)
>     * in search of reviewers
>   1. Article in the New Yorker, a quintessentially
>       English teapot and London panic
>          * Re: Article in the New Yorker, a
>            quintessentially English teapot and London
>            panic (01/30)
>            From: Alexandra Smith
>            <Alexandra.Smith at ED.AC.UK>
>   2. Article on Russia in The New Yorker
>          * Re: Article on Russia in The New Yorker
>            (01/30)
>            From: Jenny Carr
>            <jennifercarr at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK>
>   3. capital punishment in Russia
>          * capital punishment in Russia (01/30)
>            From: Alexandra Ioannidou <alerosa at HOL.GR>
>          * Re: capital punishment in Russia (01/30)
>            From: Alexandra Smith
>            <Alexandra.Smith at ED.AC.UK>
>   4. Final Call for Abstracts: 27th Annual Slavic
>       Forum at the University of Chicago!
>          * Final Call for Abstracts: 27th Annual
>            Slavic Forum at the University of Chicago!
>            (01/30)
>            From: Meredith Clason
>            <mclason at UCHICAGO.EDU>
>   5. SEELANGS Digest - 27 Jan 2007 to 28 Jan 2007 -
>       Special issue (#2007-38)
>          * Re: SEELANGS Digest - 27 Jan 2007 to 28 Jan
>            2007 - Special issue (#2007-38) (01/30)
>            From: Marina Aptekman <maptekman at GMAIL.COM>
>          * Re: SEELANGS Digest - 27 Jan 2007 to 28 Jan
>            2007 - Special issue (#2007-38) (01/30)
>            From: Zielinski <zielinski at GMX.CH>
>   6. the Bulgarian version of Madame Bovary
>          * Re: the Bulgarian version of Madame Bovary
>            (01/30)
>            From: Alexandra Smith
>            <Alexandra.Smith at ED.AC.UK>
>   7. Study Abroad for non-language student?
>          * Re: Study Abroad for non-language student?
>            (01/30)
>            From: "Lila W. Zaharkov"
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>   8. all birchbark letters online: gramoty.ru
>          * all birchbark letters online: gramoty.ru
>            (01/31)
>            From: "H.P.Houtzagers"
>            <H.P.Houtzagers at RUG.NL>
>          * Re: all birchbark letters online:
>            gramoty.ru (01/30)
>            From: Marc Adler <marc at ADLERPACIFIC.COM>
>          * Re: all birchbark letters online:
>            gramoty.ru (01/30)
>            From: Boris Dagaev <boris.dagaev at GMAIL.COM>
>   9. in search of reviewers
>          * in search of reviewers (01/30)
>            From: Anna Chilewska <annac at UALBERTA.CA>
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From hhoogenboom at ALBANY.EDU  Wed Jan 31 15:22:45 2007
From: hhoogenboom at ALBANY.EDU (Hilde Hoogenboom)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 10:22:45 -0500
Subject: ISECS in Montpellier July 7-15
Message-ID: <WED.31.JAN.2007.102245.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

For ISECS in Montpellier (July 7-15, 2007), I'm putting together a roundtable on any aspect of 18th-century Russian literature and culture & the Imperial Academy of Sciences.  The theme of the conference is science.  We need a fifth person.  The deadline is Feb. 12th, but I would like to submit as soon as possible because the deadline for registration at the regular price is Feb. 15th.  The panel comprises Steven Usitalo, Luba Golburt, Lina Bernstein, and myself.  Please contact me with ideas and for more information.  http://www.congreslumieres2007.org/gb/domaines.php  Many thanks.
Best,
Hilde Hoogenboom
Department of Languages, Literatures and Cultures
Slavic and Eurasian Studies
Humanities 212
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From alexaaa at BGNET.BGSU.EDU  Wed Jan 31 16:48:55 2007
From: alexaaa at BGNET.BGSU.EDU (alexaaa@bgnet.bgsu.edu)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:48:55 -0500
Subject: Study Abroad for non-language student?
In-Reply-To: <E9384149-46F9-4C43-AF40-5ADD698C9D7F@wooster.edu>
Message-ID: <WED.31.JAN.2007.114855.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Hello,

I can recommend Russian program at Saint-Petersburg State University. They offer 
culture/hisotry classes in English. This is their web site: 
www.russian4foreigners.spb.ru 
or this is their e-mail: info at russian4foreigners.spb.ru

Hopefully, it helps.

Anastasia

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>From: "Anne Fisher" <AFisher at WOOSTER.EDU>
>Reply-To: "Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list" 
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>To: <SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
>Subject: [SEELANGS] Study Abroad for non-language student?
>
>Hello SEELANGers,
>
>I have a student who is majoring in International Relations and would  
>like to fulfill her study-abroad component of her major (at least 8  
>weeks) somewhere in Russia.
>
>The thing is, she has never studied Russian and, while she is not  
>uninterested in beginning to study Russian on her trip, the main  
>component of the trip would need to be culture/politics courses in  
>English.
>
>She's more interested in a 2-3 month summer program than a semester  
>abroad, although with a language component ensuring basic Russian  
>she's willing to consider a semester in Russia too.
>
>Can anyone recommend a program?
>
>Thanks in advance for your help,
>
>Annie Fisher
>________________________
>
>Anne O. Fisher
>Visiting Assistant Professor and Chair
>Russian Studies
>The College of Wooster
>afisher at wooster.edu
>330-263-2166
>________________________
>
>"The academy responds to the demands of disciplines and faculty. It  
>is a culture that cherishes independence and freedom. And it is a  
>culture seriously out of touch with much of America." - from an op-ed  
>piece on higher education in the New York TImes, October 11, 2006
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From renee at ALINGA.COM  Wed Jan 31 17:04:32 2007
From: renee at ALINGA.COM (Renee Stillings)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 12:04:32 -0500
Subject: Study Abroad for non-language student?
In-Reply-To: <1170262135-1724.00047.00127-smmsdV2.1.6@smtp.bgsu.edu>
Message-ID: <WED.31.JAN.2007.120432.0500.>

To my knowledge, having worked extensively with this department mentioned
for many years, they do not offer the culture/history course in English to
groups. Like everything, it is possible to request special individual
courses, but that gets expensive. This particular department generally
offers Russian language only - 20 hrs/week. They are overall very pleasant
to work with from my administrative (and student satisfaction!) standpoint.

The Center for Russian Language and Culture - at the same university - does
integrate culture and history courses into their standard offering. With
rare exceptions, we don't work with them, so I can't comment on the quality.


Renee

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu] On Behalf Of alexaaa at bgnet.bgsu.edu
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 11:49 AM
To: SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Study Abroad for non-language student?

Hello,

I can recommend Russian program at Saint-Petersburg State University. They
offer 
culture/hisotry classes in English. This is their web site: 
www.russian4foreigners.spb.ru 
or this is their e-mail: info at russian4foreigners.spb.ru

Hopefully, it helps.

Anastasia

---------Included Message----------
>Date: 29-Jan-2007 16:13:58 -0500
>From: "Anne Fisher" <AFisher at WOOSTER.EDU>
>Reply-To: "Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list" 
<SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
>To: <SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
>Subject: [SEELANGS] Study Abroad for non-language student?
>
>Hello SEELANGers,
>
>I have a student who is majoring in International Relations and would  
>like to fulfill her study-abroad component of her major (at least 8  
>weeks) somewhere in Russia.
>
>The thing is, she has never studied Russian and, while she is not  
>uninterested in beginning to study Russian on her trip, the main  
>component of the trip would need to be culture/politics courses in  
>English.
>
>She's more interested in a 2-3 month summer program than a semester  
>abroad, although with a language component ensuring basic Russian  
>she's willing to consider a semester in Russia too.
>
>Can anyone recommend a program?
>
>Thanks in advance for your help,
>
>Annie Fisher
>________________________
>
>Anne O. Fisher
>Visiting Assistant Professor and Chair
>Russian Studies
>The College of Wooster
>afisher at wooster.edu
>330-263-2166
>________________________
>
>"The academy responds to the demands of disciplines and faculty. It  
>is a culture that cherishes independence and freedom. And it is a  
>culture seriously out of touch with much of America." - from an op-ed  
>piece on higher education in the New York TImes, October 11, 2006
>
>
>
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From mdenner at STETSON.EDU  Wed Jan 31 17:21:35 2007
From: mdenner at STETSON.EDU (Michael Denner)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 12:21:35 -0500
Subject: Article on Russia in The New Yorker
In-Reply-To: A<024801c7440c$b6e44ce0$0501a8c0@INSPIRON8600>
Message-ID: <WED.31.JAN.2007.122135.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Why is that every time I read a New Yorker article on Russia (I recall a
similar one in the spring of 2005), I end up feeling like a spokesperson
for Russia? (I in fact lean somewhere closer to the Russophobe pole than
the Russophile.) 

The article has some fine synthesis of the past ten years, and it seems
fairly evenhanded when it comes to analyzing the government's control of
mass-media; but it is terribly one-sided and anti-Russian, not to
mention egregiously wrong on some basic facts when it tries to talk
about Russia's oil and gas policies. Here's how the article reads:

>The Russian government has become bolder and more assertive throughout
Putin's tenure. >On New Year's Day of 2006, Russia abruptly cut gas
exports to Ukraine after the >government there objected to a sharp rise
in the prices charged by Gazprom. Gas headed to >Europe from Russia
passes through Ukraine, and the disruption-which was widely seen as
>punishment for Ukraine's political intransigence-affected many European
countries. This >month, Belarus was treated in the same fashion: Russia
doubled the price it charges for gas >and began to impose much higher
export duties on oil. <<snip>> The Kremlin recently >provided a
particularly audacious example of how it sees its role as an "energy
superpower": >Royal Dutch Shell, which had invested billions of dollars
to develop the world's largest oil->and-gas field, Sakhalin II, in the
Russian Far East, was forced by the government to sell its >controlling
stake in the project. 

Last month, at the NATO summit, Richard Lugar called Russia a "hostile
regime" -- why? Because Russia balked at continuing to subsidize gas for
Belarus and Ukraine by something like 80%. (Ukraine and Belarus have
paid approximately $50/thousand cubic meters under Soviet-era contracts,
while world prices are closer to $250.) Now that Ukraine and Belarus are
no longer docile sycophants (bully for them!), Russia wants them to pay
closer to (but still not full) market price for gas. How is this an
unfair expectation? We in the US use our economic (and military!)
strength to reward allies (Egypt, Israel) and punish those who cross us
(most nations beginning with the letter "I"). 

Why is Russia wrong to do the same?

As for the RDS antics: Shell's contract with Gazprom was "first out" --
it stated that Shell gets paid all its expenses BEFORE Russia can start
receiving its share of the profits. But Shell suddenly, and with no real
explanation, doubled its bill for expenses, from something like $25
million to $50 million. Imagine! Russia reacted poorly to this!! (Think
if your contractor suddenly doubled the estimated materials cost in a
home renovation.)

How is this unreasonable? Anyone who has taken a moment to acquaint
himself with the facts surrounding the ongoing gas problems with Ukraine
& Belarus, as well as R. D. Shell's "shell game" with the Russians will
know that 1) Russia was not unreasonable in its reactions; 2) Russia
must have the worst P-R team in the world. The New Yorker frames Russia
as a bellicose tyrant, but in fact, Russia is simply pursuing its own
economic interests. When they act like a capitalist country, they get
accused of declaring war:

>U.S. Senator Richard Lugar urged NATO to update its charter. "We are
used to thinking in >terms of conventional warfare between nations, but
energy could become the weapon of >choice for those who possess it," he
said. (from RFE/RL, 12-5)


~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
   Dr. Michael A. Denner
   Editor, Tolstoy Studies Journal
   Director, University Honors Program
   
   Contact Information:
      Russian Studies Program
      Stetson University
      Campus Box 8361
      DeLand, FL 32720-3756
      386.822.7381 (department)
      386.822.7265 (direct line)
      386.822.7380 (fax)
      www.stetson.edu/~mdenner

-----Original Message-----
From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
[mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of David Powelstock
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 8:20 PM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: [SEELANGS] Article on Russia in The New Yorker

There's an article by Michael Specter in the Jan 29 issue of The New
Yorker. Nothing especially new in the article, but it distills many of
the more distressing recent trends in the country down to a piquant
attar of grimness. A must-read, I think, for anyone who hasn't been
keeping track of developments under Stalinism Putinesca. Unlike the
Kundera article, this one's available online, at
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/070129fa_fact_specter.

Cheers,
David

David Powelstock 
Asst. Prof. of Russian & East European Literatures 
Chair, Program in Russian & East European Studies 
Brandeis University 
GRALL, MS 024 
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From aaanem at WM.EDU  Wed Jan 31 17:46:36 2007
From: aaanem at WM.EDU (Tony Anemone)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 12:46:36 -0500
Subject: Article on Russia in The New Yorker
In-Reply-To: <D68FFD5C2DF2174E9ACF9A4CA6458D8107B69CDF@alpha2.ad.stetson.edu>
Message-ID: <WED.31.JAN.2007.124636.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I agree wholeheartedly with Michael Denner's comments on the unfair  
response to Russia's following its own economic interests.  Imagine a  
great power using its economic power to reward friends and punish  
enemies. It's shocking and inexcusable!  No civilized country would  
behave in such a way!

The shameless hypocrisy on display in this article is, of course,  
epidemic in US political life these days:  otherwise, how could our  
politicians  keep a straight face while threatening Iran for meddling  
in Iraq!

Tony Anemone

On Jan 31, 2007, at 12:21 PM, Michael Denner wrote:

> Why is that every time I read a New Yorker article on Russia (I  
> recall a
> similar one in the spring of 2005), I end up feeling like a  
> spokesperson
> for Russia? (I in fact lean somewhere closer to the Russophobe pole  
> than
> the Russophile.)
>
> The article has some fine synthesis of the past ten years, and it  
> seems
> fairly evenhanded when it comes to analyzing the government's  
> control of
> mass-media; but it is terribly one-sided and anti-Russian, not to
> mention egregiously wrong on some basic facts when it tries to talk
> about Russia's oil and gas policies. Here's how the article reads:
>
>> The Russian government has become bolder and more assertive  
>> throughout
> Putin's tenure. >On New Year's Day of 2006, Russia abruptly cut gas
> exports to Ukraine after the >government there objected to a sharp  
> rise
> in the prices charged by Gazprom. Gas headed to >Europe from Russia
> passes through Ukraine, and the disruption-which was widely seen as
>> punishment for Ukraine's political intransigence-affected many  
>> European
> countries. This >month, Belarus was treated in the same fashion:  
> Russia
> doubled the price it charges for gas >and began to impose much higher
> export duties on oil. <<snip>> The Kremlin recently >provided a
> particularly audacious example of how it sees its role as an "energy
> superpower": >Royal Dutch Shell, which had invested billions of  
> dollars
> to develop the world's largest oil->and-gas field, Sakhalin II, in the
> Russian Far East, was forced by the government to sell its  
> >controlling
> stake in the project.
>
> Last month, at the NATO summit, Richard Lugar called Russia a "hostile
> regime" -- why? Because Russia balked at continuing to subsidize  
> gas for
> Belarus and Ukraine by something like 80%. (Ukraine and Belarus have
> paid approximately $50/thousand cubic meters under Soviet-era  
> contracts,
> while world prices are closer to $250.) Now that Ukraine and  
> Belarus are
> no longer docile sycophants (bully for them!), Russia wants them to  
> pay
> closer to (but still not full) market price for gas. How is this an
> unfair expectation? We in the US use our economic (and military!)
> strength to reward allies (Egypt, Israel) and punish those who  
> cross us
> (most nations beginning with the letter "I").
>
> Why is Russia wrong to do the same?
>
> As for the RDS antics: Shell's contract with Gazprom was "first  
> out" --
> it stated that Shell gets paid all its expenses BEFORE Russia can  
> start
> receiving its share of the profits. But Shell suddenly, and with no  
> real
> explanation, doubled its bill for expenses, from something like $25
> million to $50 million. Imagine! Russia reacted poorly to this!!  
> (Think
> if your contractor suddenly doubled the estimated materials cost in a
> home renovation.)
>
> How is this unreasonable? Anyone who has taken a moment to acquaint
> himself with the facts surrounding the ongoing gas problems with  
> Ukraine
> & Belarus, as well as R. D. Shell's "shell game" with the Russians  
> will
> know that 1) Russia was not unreasonable in its reactions; 2) Russia
> must have the worst P-R team in the world. The New Yorker frames  
> Russia
> as a bellicose tyrant, but in fact, Russia is simply pursuing its own
> economic interests. When they act like a capitalist country, they get
> accused of declaring war:
>
>> U.S. Senator Richard Lugar urged NATO to update its charter. "We are
> used to thinking in >terms of conventional warfare between nations,  
> but
> energy could become the weapon of >choice for those who possess  
> it," he
> said. (from RFE/RL, 12-5)
>
>
> ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
>    Dr. Michael A. Denner
>    Editor, Tolstoy Studies Journal
>    Director, University Honors Program
>
>    Contact Information:
>       Russian Studies Program
>       Stetson University
>       Campus Box 8361
>       DeLand, FL 32720-3756
>       386.822.7381 (department)
>       386.822.7265 (direct line)
>       386.822.7380 (fax)
>       www.stetson.edu/~mdenner
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
> [mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of David Powelstock
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 8:20 PM
> To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
> Subject: [SEELANGS] Article on Russia in The New Yorker
>
> There's an article by Michael Specter in the Jan 29 issue of The New
> Yorker. Nothing especially new in the article, but it distills many of
> the more distressing recent trends in the country down to a piquant
> attar of grimness. A must-read, I think, for anyone who hasn't been
> keeping track of developments under Stalinism Putinesca. Unlike the
> Kundera article, this one's available online, at
> http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/070129fa_fact_specter.
>
> Cheers,
> David
>
> David Powelstock
> Asst. Prof. of Russian & East European Literatures
> Chair, Program in Russian & East European Studies
> Brandeis University
> GRALL, MS 024
> Waltham, MA  02454-9110
> 781.736.3347 (Office)
>
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From renee at ALINGA.COM  Wed Jan 31 17:44:10 2007
From: renee at ALINGA.COM (Renee Stillings)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 12:44:10 -0500
Subject: Article on Russia in The New Yorker
In-Reply-To: <D68FFD5C2DF2174E9ACF9A4CA6458D8107B69CDF@alpha2.ad.stetson.edu>
Message-ID: <WED.31.JAN.2007.124410.0500.>

I noted the word "Kremlin" on the latest New Yorker cover at the local
store's checkout register the other day, read the headline more closely and
didn't even bother to pick it up. It is extremely frustrating to see what
journalists are producing these days about Russia. Not being a specialist on
other parts of the world, I can't judge as to whether they are equally as
erroneous, superfluous, etc. in reporting on those areas. Most of what I see
written about Russia, especially in mainstream media, is such gibberish that
I fear at some point the fact that mainstream American might actually
believe this stuff could come back to bite us ... . Steven Cohen made some
very good points about such reporting in a recent interview with Washington
Post.

What exactly are they teaching journalists these days - both in school and
on the job? Seems to be very little when it comes to research and analysis. 

Might be an interesting joint course offering between Russian Studies and
journalism/communications departments to do something like "Reporting on
Russia." For non-Russian majors it gives a good sense of how to approach
reporting on any complex country/situation. For the students of Russian,
they can apply their studies by actually doing research that uses the
language. It would include an overview of the media structure in Russia as
by nature the course would tie in very well with other related courses on
politics, economics, etc. Journalism is a very viable career path for
Russian Studies grads and as such, a course like that would enhance any
resume. Seems to me it would be a fun and very lively discussion course as
well.

Have any SEELANGers offered a similar course?

Renee


>>Why is that every time I read a New Yorker article on Russia (I recall a
similar one in the spring of 2005), I end up feeling like a spokesperson
for Russia? (I in fact lean somewhere closer to the Russophobe pole than
the Russophile.) 

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From paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM  Wed Jan 31 18:03:23 2007
From: paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM (Paul B. Gallagher)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 13:03:23 -0500
Subject: Article on Russia in The New Yorker
In-Reply-To: <3E6EADB3-2BE3-4262-A821-C43A89C6021A@wm.edu>
Message-ID: <WED.31.JAN.2007.130323.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Tony Anemone wrote:

> I agree wholeheartedly with Michael Denner's comments on the unfair  
> response to Russia's following its own economic interests.  Imagine a  
> great power using its economic power to reward friends and punish  
> enemies. It's shocking and inexcusable!  No civilized country would  
> behave in such a way!
> 
> The shameless hypocrisy on display in this article is, of course,  
> epidemic in US political life these days:  otherwise, how could our  
> politicians  keep a straight face while threatening Iran for meddling  
> in Iraq!

Fair point.

Anyone care to explain now why Ukraine and Belarus are required to pay 
market prices for gas but are not entitled to transit fees for the 
portion that continues on through to Europe, where it earns huge profits 
for Russia? (please don't make reference to their status as vassals).

-- 
War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
--
Paul B. Gallagher
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From yoffe at GWU.EDU  Wed Jan 31 18:36:17 2007
From: yoffe at GWU.EDU (Mark Yoffe)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 13:36:17 -0500
Subject: Article on Russia in The New Yorker
In-Reply-To: <D68FFD5C2DF2174E9ACF9A4CA6458D8107B69CDF@alpha2.ad.stetson.edu>
Message-ID: <WED.31.JAN.2007.133617.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Thank you, Michael, for these very important points you make. Indeed, it seems necessary to keep things in some kind of a perspective, and hopefully within historical perspective most of all. Putin might be the Devil, and his regime is horrific, brutal, oppressive, and worse than GULAG, and he is the biggest tyrant since Ivan the Terrible. But since when Russia has become Denmark or Holland (though after the cartoons controversy we learned that Denmark is populated by a bunch of bigots, and so is Holland), a perfect and enlightened democracy? It seems that not even 20 years have passed since it was one of the most oppressive regimes ever. And should one remind that Russians do not live today behind the Iron Curtain and enjoy travel and education abroad? Was that not one of the harshest restrictions of the Soviet era? And, seriously, for all the Putin’s non-democratic dealings with the press and media can we compare contemporary situation to the one that existed in Russia for 
the last 1000 years? Things are indeed less anarchic and free-for-all the way it was say in 1993, but was it not in 1993 that more “liberal” in comparison to Putin Yeltsyn shelled his own parliament? When were things perfect in Russia? And when will they be? And what is perfect if enlightened Europeans turn out to be bigots, and Americans warmongers? And who is to throw a rock at Russia? If  every people deserves its own government, then take a look at what is happening outside of our very windows: the recent anti-war march in Washington was practically a flop the way these things go. Where were the passionate angry millions demanding change and accountability? Russians off course are dumb and primitive and coarse to like their president, but how about us here? Are we not letting someone get away with murder and the one on slightly bigger scale than what hideous and monstrous Putin has achieved? 

Mark Yoffe
Curator, International Counterculture Archive, GWU

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Denner <mdenner at STETSON.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:24 pm
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Article on Russia in The New Yorker
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU


> Why is that every time I read a New Yorker article on Russia (I recall 
> a
>  similar one in the spring of 2005), I end up feeling like a spokesperson
>  for Russia? (I in fact lean somewhere closer to the Russophobe pole than
>  the Russophile.) 
>  
>  The article has some fine synthesis of the past ten years, and it seems
>  fairly evenhanded when it comes to analyzing the government's control 
> of
>  mass-media; but it is terribly one-sided and anti-Russian, not to
>  mention egregiously wrong on some basic facts when it tries to talk
>  about Russia's oil and gas policies. Here's how the article reads:
>  
>  >The Russian government has become bolder and more assertive throughout
>  Putin's tenure. >On New Year's Day of 2006, Russia abruptly cut gas
>  exports to Ukraine after the >government there objected to a sharp rise
>  in the prices charged by Gazprom. Gas headed to >Europe from Russia
>  passes through Ukraine, and the disruption-which was widely seen as
>  >punishment for Ukraine's political intransigence-affected many European
>  countries. This >month, Belarus was treated in the same fashion: Russia
>  doubled the price it charges for gas >and began to impose much higher
>  export duties on oil. <<snip>> The Kremlin recently >provided a
>  particularly audacious example of how it sees its role as an "energy
>  superpower": >Royal Dutch Shell, which had invested billions of dollars
>  to develop the world's largest oil->and-gas field, Sakhalin II, in the
>  Russian Far East, was forced by the government to sell its >controlling
>  stake in the project. 
>  
>  Last month, at the NATO summit, Richard Lugar called Russia a "hostile
>  regime" -- why? Because Russia balked at continuing to subsidize gas 
> for
>  Belarus and Ukraine by something like 80%. (Ukraine and Belarus have
>  paid approximately $50/thousand cubic meters under Soviet-era contracts,
>  while world prices are closer to $250.) Now that Ukraine and Belarus 
> are
>  no longer docile sycophants (bully for them!), Russia wants them to pay
>  closer to (but still not full) market price for gas. How is this an
>  unfair expectation? We in the US use our economic (and military!)
>  strength to reward allies (Egypt, Israel) and punish those who cross 
> us
>  (most nations beginning with the letter "I"). 
>  
>  Why is Russia wrong to do the same?
>  
>  As for the RDS antics: Shell's contract with Gazprom was "first out" 
> --
>  it stated that Shell gets paid all its expenses BEFORE Russia can start
>  receiving its share of the profits. But Shell suddenly, and with no real
>  explanation, doubled its bill for expenses, from something like $25
>  million to $50 million. Imagine! Russia reacted poorly to this!! (Think
>  if your contractor suddenly doubled the estimated materials cost in a
>  home renovation.)
>  
>  How is this unreasonable? Anyone who has taken a moment to acquaint
>  himself with the facts surrounding the ongoing gas problems with Ukraine
>  & Belarus, as well as R. D. Shell's "shell game" with the Russians will
>  know that 1) Russia was not unreasonable in its reactions; 2) Russia
>  must have the worst P-R team in the world. The New Yorker frames Russia
>  as a bellicose tyrant, but in fact, Russia is simply pursuing its own
>  economic interests. When they act like a capitalist country, they get
>  accused of declaring war:
>  
>  >U.S. Senator Richard Lugar urged NATO to update its charter. "We are
>  used to thinking in >terms of conventional warfare between nations, but
>  energy could become the weapon of >choice for those who possess it," 
> he
>  said. (from RFE/RL, 12-5)
>  
>  
>  ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
>     Dr. Michael A. Denner
>     Editor, Tolstoy Studies Journal
>     Director, University Honors Program
>     
>     Contact Information:
>        Russian Studies Program
>        Stetson University
>        Campus Box 8361
>        DeLand, FL 32720-3756
>        386.822.7381 (department)
>        386.822.7265 (direct line)
>        386.822.7380 (fax)
>        www.stetson.edu/~mdenner
>  
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
>  [ On Behalf Of David Powelstock
>  Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 8:20 PM
>  To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
>  Subject: [SEELANGS] Article on Russia in The New Yorker
>  
>  There's an article by Michael Specter in the Jan 29 issue of The New
>  Yorker. Nothing especially new in the article, but it distills many of
>  the more distressing recent trends in the country down to a piquant
>  attar of grimness. A must-read, I think, for anyone who hasn't been
>  keeping track of developments under Stalinism Putinesca. Unlike the
>  Kundera article, this one's available online, at
>  
>  
>  Cheers,
>  David
>  
>  David Powelstock 
>  Asst. Prof. of Russian & East European Literatures 
>  Chair, Program in Russian & East European Studies 
>  Brandeis University 
>  GRALL, MS 024 
>  Waltham, MA  02454-9110 
>  781.736.3347 (Office) 
>  
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From anthony.j.vanchu at NASA.GOV  Wed Jan 31 18:45:54 2007
From: anthony.j.vanchu at NASA.GOV (Vanchu, Anthony J. (JSC-AH)[TTI])
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 12:45:54 -0600
Subject: Article on Russia in The New Yorker
In-Reply-To: A<dcadd9a82b5d5.45c09b51@gwu.edu>
Message-ID: <WED.31.JAN.2007.124554.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

The (beginning to the) answer to the question cited below is:  US
citizens voted in November of 2006.

To bring this back to a SEELANGS topic, I'm curious to know how if folks
write to the New Yorker editorship about articles such as Specter's
(objecting to them in the vein mentioned in recent posts) and, if so,
what sorts of responses--if any--have they engendered?

Tony



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[mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Yoffe
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:36 PM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Article on Russia in The New Yorker

>If  every people deserves its own government, then take a look at what
is happening outside of our very windows: the recent anti-war march in
Washington was practically a flop the way these things go. Where were
the passionate angry millions demanding change and accountability? <

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From jwilson at ALINGA.COM  Wed Jan 31 18:48:48 2007
From: jwilson at ALINGA.COM (Josh Wilson)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 21:48:48 +0300
Subject: Article on Russia in The New Yorker
Message-ID: <WED.31.JAN.2007.214848.0300.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

I think that western coverage of Russia is beautifully summed in how it has
reported on the Russian weather.... 

 

Last year, Russia had one of the coldest winters in history. The Western
media reported that the Russians were miserable. 

 

This year, Russia has had one of its warmest winters in history. The Western
media has reported that... the Russians are miserable. 

 

Politics aside, I think we can all agree that our media does have bias for
reporting, for whatever reason, that the Russians are miserable. Show these
articles to the average Russian (as I do sometimes in Russia, which has
become my home), and they will ask you where, exactly, THAT Russia is. 

 

Unfortunately, many Americans will also ask where Russia is on the map...
which is likely how our media gets away with their reporting... 

 

 

Josh Wilson

Asst. Director

The School of Russian and Asian Studies

Editor-in-Chief

Vestnik, The Journal of Russian and Asian Studies

www.sras.org

jwilson at sras.org

 


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From reei at INDIANA.EDU  Wed Jan 31 20:30:11 2007
From: reei at INDIANA.EDU (REEI)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:30:11 -0500
Subject: SWSEEL Announcement: Indiana University's Summer Workshop in
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From paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM  Wed Jan 31 20:38:41 2007
From: paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM (Paul B. Gallagher)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:38:41 -0500
Subject: Article on Russia in The New Yorker
In-Reply-To: <200701311848.l0VImkjZ018925@alinga.com>
Message-ID: <WED.31.JAN.2007.153841.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

Josh Wilson wrote:

> I think that western coverage of Russia is beautifully summed in how
> it has reported on the Russian weather....
> 
> Last year, Russia had one of the coldest winters in history. The
> Western media reported that the Russians were miserable.
> 
> This year, Russia has had one of its warmest winters in history. The
> Western media has reported that... the Russians are miserable.

LOL!

> Politics aside, I think we can all agree that our media does have
> bias for reporting, for whatever reason, that the Russians are
> miserable.  ...

In psychology, they call it "projection" -- you describe your own 
feelings and attribute them to your subject.

More to the point, I remember being told in college somewhere that the 
difference between the American and Russian temperaments is (allegedly) 
that the American see life as happiness (счастье) with occasional 
moments of misery (горе), whereas the Russian sees life as misery with 
occasional moments of happiness. If you read some Russian literature, 
you can see a grain of truth in it, but like most myths, it misses a lot.

> ... Show these articles to the average Russian (as I do sometimes in
> Russia, which has become my home), and they will ask you where,
> exactly, THAT Russia is.
> 
> Unfortunately, many Americans will also ask where Russia is on the
> map... which is likely how our media gets away with their
> reporting...

Same for 'Iraq and any other country.

-- 
War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
--
Paul B. Gallagher
pbg translations, inc.
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From mjagannathan at GMAIL.COM  Wed Jan 31 21:12:24 2007
From: mjagannathan at GMAIL.COM (Malavika Jagannathan)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:12:24 -0600
Subject: Article on Russia in The New Yorker
In-Reply-To: <200701311848.l0VImkjZ018925@alinga.com>
Message-ID: <WED.31.JAN.2007.151224.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

As a newspaper reporter who majored in both journalism and Russian studies
in college, I read this article with some interest as I do generally with
stories published on Russia.  Personally, I found it an illuminating piece,
despite its somewhat critical angle (not all of which I agreed with,
especially the author's comparison of Putin and Yeltsin).

But I think it's unfair to blame the Media for projecting a "negative image"
of Russia. The cold hard reality of journalism is that for an
international story from any country to get play in domestic newspapers or
magazines, it has to be big.  And often, those big stories tend to be the
explosions, the hostage crises and contract-killings of government critics.
Much of the criticism I'm hearing in this forum is eeriely similar to the
criticism thrown at the media by the Bush administration, who often say that
reporters in Iraq never write stories about the "good" the United States is
doing in that country.

I'm not defending all the reporting done on Russia; in fact, some of it is
grossly inadequate.  Many of the reporters who land these overseas
assignments (fewer and fewer it seems as newspapers cut down their foreign
coverage) do not have a background in the country they are assigned to.
Without the benefit of an academic background, though, these reporters do a
decent job and often on a tight deadline.  For that, we should give them
some credit.  After all, it's not the journalist's job to teach the American
public a crash course on a country's history and culture - that's what our
educational system ought to be doing.

It is also interesting to note that the editor of the New Yorker, David
Remnick, was the former Washington Post Moscow correspondent and that his
magazine writes more Russia-related articles than most other mainstream news
magazines.

Sincerely,

Malavika Jagannathan


On 1/31/07, Josh Wilson <jwilson at alinga.com> wrote:

> I think that western coverage of Russia is beautifully summed in how it
> has
> reported on the Russian weather....
>
>
>
> Last year, Russia had one of the coldest winters in history. The Western
> media reported that the Russians were miserable.
>
>
>
> This year, Russia has had one of its warmest winters in history. The
> Western
> media has reported that... the Russians are miserable.
>
>
>
> Politics aside, I think we can all agree that our media does have bias for
> reporting, for whatever reason, that the Russians are miserable. Show
> these
> articles to the average Russian (as I do sometimes in Russia, which has
> become my home), and they will ask you where, exactly, THAT Russia is.
>
>
>
> Unfortunately, many Americans will also ask where Russia is on the map...
> which is likely how our media gets away with their reporting...
>
>
>
>
>
> Josh Wilson
>
> Asst. Director
>
> The School of Russian and Asian Studies
>
> Editor-in-Chief
>
> Vestnik, The Journal of Russian and Asian Studies
>
> www.sras.org
>
> jwilson at sras.org
>
>
>
>
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From pstock at BRANDEIS.EDU  Wed Jan 31 21:25:59 2007
From: pstock at BRANDEIS.EDU (David Powelstock)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:25:59 -0500
Subject: Article on Russia in The New Yorker
In-Reply-To: <D68FFD5C2DF2174E9ACF9A4CA6458D8107B69CDF@alpha2.ad.stetson.edu>
Message-ID: <WED.31.JAN.2007.162559.0500.>

Generalizations about American media coverage aside, I find Michael Denner's
charges of Russophobia against Michael Specter's article and the New Yorker
a a whole to be grossly unfair. There's no doubt that the part on the gas
shennanigans is one-sided--it mentions neither RDS's increased charges nor
the long subsidies that the price increases reflect. (On the other hand,
cutting off gas supplies in the dead of winter seems needlessly aggressive
and cruel. That's the unreasonable part, to my mind, and to criticize it is
not to deny Russia's right to charge market prices. And Michael fails to
include Gazprom's other strong-arm tactics in the part of Specter's article
he quotes.) But this is tiny part of the article. 

Meanwhile, the charge of hypocrisy seems out of line. Michael writes,

"We in the US use our economic (and military!) strength to reward allies
(Egypt, Israel) and punish those who cross us (most nations beginning with
the letter "I"). Why is Russia wrong to do the same?"

How is Specter responsible for the entirety of US foreign policy? Michael
precedes his rhetorical question by quoting some grandstanding blather by
Richard Lugar. How is Specter now responsible for Lugar's nonsense? Michael
has executed a rhetorical bait and switch. And must Specter's article *on
Russia* include also a critique of the foreign policy of every other nation?
If we are speaking about The New Yorker as a whole, it can hardly be tarred
with the same brush as Lugar, either. From the very first talk of war in
Iraq, it has published editorials and exposés strongly critical of American
policies. You might not like its coverage of Russia--and there are valid
journalistic grounds for criticism--but to accuse it of Lugar-like hypocrisy
is completely unfair and irresponsible.

Cheers,
David

David Powelstock
Asst. Prof. of Russian & East European Literatures
Chair, Program in Russian & East European Studies
Brandeis University
GRALL, MS 024
Waltham, MA  02454-9110
781.736.3347 (Office) 

-----Original Message-----
From: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
[mailto:SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu] On Behalf Of Michael Denner
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:22 PM
To: SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Article on Russia in The New Yorker

Why is that every time I read a New Yorker article on Russia (I recall a
similar one in the spring of 2005), I end up feeling like a spokesperson
for Russia? (I in fact lean somewhere closer to the Russophobe pole than
the Russophile.) 

The article has some fine synthesis of the past ten years, and it seems
fairly evenhanded when it comes to analyzing the government's control of
mass-media; but it is terribly one-sided and anti-Russian, not to
mention egregiously wrong on some basic facts when it tries to talk
about Russia's oil and gas policies. Here's how the article reads:

>The Russian government has become bolder and more assertive throughout
Putin's tenure. >On New Year's Day of 2006, Russia abruptly cut gas
exports to Ukraine after the >government there objected to a sharp rise
in the prices charged by Gazprom. Gas headed to >Europe from Russia
passes through Ukraine, and the disruption-which was widely seen as
>punishment for Ukraine's political intransigence-affected many European
countries. This >month, Belarus was treated in the same fashion: Russia
doubled the price it charges for gas >and began to impose much higher
export duties on oil. <<snip>> The Kremlin recently >provided a
particularly audacious example of how it sees its role as an "energy
superpower": >Royal Dutch Shell, which had invested billions of dollars
to develop the world's largest oil->and-gas field, Sakhalin II, in the
Russian Far East, was forced by the government to sell its >controlling
stake in the project. 

Last month, at the NATO summit, Richard Lugar called Russia a "hostile
regime" -- why? Because Russia balked at continuing to subsidize gas for
Belarus and Ukraine by something like 80%. (Ukraine and Belarus have
paid approximately $50/thousand cubic meters under Soviet-era contracts,
while world prices are closer to $250.) Now that Ukraine and Belarus are
no longer docile sycophants (bully for them!), Russia wants them to pay
closer to (but still not full) market price for gas. How is this an
unfair expectation? We in the US use our economic (and military!)
strength to reward allies (Egypt, Israel) and punish those who cross us
(most nations beginning with the letter "I"). 

Why is Russia wrong to do the same?

As for the RDS antics: Shell's contract with Gazprom was "first out" --
it stated that Shell gets paid all its expenses BEFORE Russia can start
receiving its share of the profits. But Shell suddenly, and with no real
explanation, doubled its bill for expenses, from something like $25
million to $50 million. Imagine! Russia reacted poorly to this!! (Think
if your contractor suddenly doubled the estimated materials cost in a
home renovation.)

How is this unreasonable? Anyone who has taken a moment to acquaint
himself with the facts surrounding the ongoing gas problems with Ukraine
& Belarus, as well as R. D. Shell's "shell game" with the Russians will
know that 1) Russia was not unreasonable in its reactions; 2) Russia
must have the worst P-R team in the world. The New Yorker frames Russia
as a bellicose tyrant, but in fact, Russia is simply pursuing its own
economic interests. When they act like a capitalist country, they get
accused of declaring war:

>U.S. Senator Richard Lugar urged NATO to update its charter. "We are
used to thinking in >terms of conventional warfare between nations, but
energy could become the weapon of >choice for those who possess it," he
said. (from RFE/RL, 12-5)


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[mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of David Powelstock
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 8:20 PM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: [SEELANGS] Article on Russia in The New Yorker

There's an article by Michael Specter in the Jan 29 issue of The New
Yorker. Nothing especially new in the article, but it distills many of
the more distressing recent trends in the country down to a piquant
attar of grimness. A must-read, I think, for anyone who hasn't been
keeping track of developments under Stalinism Putinesca. Unlike the
Kundera article, this one's available online, at
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/070129fa_fact_specter.

Cheers,
David

David Powelstock 
Asst. Prof. of Russian & East European Literatures 
Chair, Program in Russian & East European Studies 
Brandeis University 
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From sglebov at SMITH.EDU  Wed Jan 31 21:53:00 2007
From: sglebov at SMITH.EDU (Sergey Glebov)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:53:00 -0500
Subject: Article on Russia in The New Yorker
Message-ID: <WED.31.JAN.2007.165300.0500.>

Wouldn't that sentence suffice as evidence of the author's expertise:

"Leaders of several Russian regions, including Siberia and Yakutia-both with
vast reserves of diamonds, oil, and gold beneath their frozen ground-began
to speak openly of seceding..."

Sergey Glebov

-----Original Message-----
From: Malavika Jagannathan [mailto:mjagannathan at GMAIL.COM] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: Article on Russia in The New Yorker

As a newspaper reporter who majored in both journalism and Russian studies
in college, I read this article with some interest as I do generally with
stories published on Russia.  Personally, I found it an illuminating piece,
despite its somewhat critical angle (not all of which I agreed with,
especially the author's comparison of Putin and Yeltsin).

But I think it's unfair to blame the Media for projecting a "negative image"
of Russia. The cold hard reality of journalism is that for an
international story from any country to get play in domestic newspapers or
magazines, it has to be big.  And often, those big stories tend to be the
explosions, the hostage crises and contract-killings of government critics.
Much of the criticism I'm hearing in this forum is eeriely similar to the
criticism thrown at the media by the Bush administration, who often say that
reporters in Iraq never write stories about the "good" the United States is
doing in that country.

I'm not defending all the reporting done on Russia; in fact, some of it is
grossly inadequate.  Many of the reporters who land these overseas
assignments (fewer and fewer it seems as newspapers cut down their foreign
coverage) do not have a background in the country they are assigned to.
Without the benefit of an academic background, though, these reporters do a
decent job and often on a tight deadline.  For that, we should give them
some credit.  After all, it's not the journalist's job to teach the American
public a crash course on a country's history and culture - that's what our
educational system ought to be doing.

It is also interesting to note that the editor of the New Yorker, David
Remnick, was the former Washington Post Moscow correspondent and that his
magazine writes more Russia-related articles than most other mainstream news
magazines.

Sincerely,

Malavika Jagannathan


On 1/31/07, Josh Wilson <jwilson at alinga.com> wrote:

> I think that western coverage of Russia is beautifully summed in how it
> has
> reported on the Russian weather....
>
>
>
> Last year, Russia had one of the coldest winters in history. The Western
> media reported that the Russians were miserable.
>
>
>
> This year, Russia has had one of its warmest winters in history. The
> Western
> media has reported that... the Russians are miserable.
>
>
>
> Politics aside, I think we can all agree that our media does have bias for
> reporting, for whatever reason, that the Russians are miserable. Show
> these
> articles to the average Russian (as I do sometimes in Russia, which has
> become my home), and they will ask you where, exactly, THAT Russia is.
>
>
>
> Unfortunately, many Americans will also ask where Russia is on the map...
> which is likely how our media gets away with their reporting...
>
>
>
>
>
> Josh Wilson
>
> Asst. Director
>
> The School of Russian and Asian Studies
>
> Editor-in-Chief
>
> Vestnik, The Journal of Russian and Asian Studies
>
> www.sras.org
>
> jwilson at sras.org
>
>
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From avs2120 at COLUMBIA.EDU  Wed Jan 31 21:56:24 2007
From: avs2120 at COLUMBIA.EDU (Andrey Shcherbenok)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:56:24 -0500
Subject: Article on Russia in The New Yorker
In-Reply-To: <200701311744.l0VHiFL8025245@flpvm23.prodigy.net>
Message-ID: <WED.31.JAN.2007.165624.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

It was nice to read this exchange of comments on the list -- I was beginning
to suspect that anti-Russian propaganda has had overwhelming effect on
everyone's minds (indeed, Steven Cohen is the ONLY author I know whose
analysis of Russia in the media is more or less balanced). Fortunately, the
propaganda has not yet worked among the members of this list. Still, I
increasingly discover that I can talk about Russia normally with either
people who are in the field or travel there regularly or with those who are
quite ignorant about it. Those readers of NY Times etc. who are in between
are already difficult to talk to. 

One thing which astonishes me is how oftentimes a person who would not
believe a word the mainstream media reports about Iraq, nevertheless
believes everything the very same media says about Russia. When the text is
anti-Russian, critical attitude to it tends to switch off. This makes me
think that Russia is somehow special, it occupies a very unfavorable
position in Western political unconscious -- it is for some reason very easy
for the West to project its own nightmarish Orwellian phantasms on it. Maybe
because it is different from the West but not different enough? Or because
its difference accentuates things about the West that people prefer to
disavow? I really have no explanation. China, for example, now competes with
the US for international influence much more aggressively than Russia, so
there is every political reason to launch an anti-Chinese campaign in the
US, and yet there is none. Just yesterday I saw a long program about China
on TV, very positive in tone, with Mao Zedong portrayed very favorably as
genuine leader of the oppressed masses, and a contemporary ceremony of
joining the Young Pioneers shown with a great deal of respect to the
Communist Party -- can you imagine anything like that on American TV in
respect to Stalin or Soviet Communists and Young Pioneers? I cannot. So,
there is something about Russia, apart from its political system or its
resistance to the US global dominance, that makes it a country Americans
(and Europeans, by the way) like to hate. 

But, on the other hand, that has long been the case. Certainly, people in
the Soviet Union would not have recognized themselves in the US's image of
the "Empire of Evil" any more than they do today in the US image of Russia
as a miserable country in the grips of the bloody Putin's regime whom,
however, this primitive freedom-hating nation of slaves totally deserves.
This is, apparently, the norm -- but, I believe, we should do our best so
that at least the academy stays abnormal.

Andrey Shcherbenok
Columbia University

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of Renee Stillings
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:44 PM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Article on Russia in The New Yorker

I noted the word "Kremlin" on the latest New Yorker cover at the local
store's checkout register the other day, read the headline more closely and
didn't even bother to pick it up. It is extremely frustrating to see what
journalists are producing these days about Russia. Not being a specialist on
other parts of the world, I can't judge as to whether they are equally as
erroneous, superfluous, etc. in reporting on those areas. Most of what I see
written about Russia, especially in mainstream media, is such gibberish that
I fear at some point the fact that mainstream American might actually
believe this stuff could come back to bite us ... . Steven Cohen made some
very good points about such reporting in a recent interview with Washington
Post.

What exactly are they teaching journalists these days - both in school and
on the job? Seems to be very little when it comes to research and analysis. 

Might be an interesting joint course offering between Russian Studies and
journalism/communications departments to do something like "Reporting on
Russia." For non-Russian majors it gives a good sense of how to approach
reporting on any complex country/situation. For the students of Russian,
they can apply their studies by actually doing research that uses the
language. It would include an overview of the media structure in Russia as
by nature the course would tie in very well with other related courses on
politics, economics, etc. Journalism is a very viable career path for
Russian Studies grads and as such, a course like that would enhance any
resume. Seems to me it would be a fun and very lively discussion course as
well.

Have any SEELANGers offered a similar course?

Renee


>>Why is that every time I read a New Yorker article on Russia (I recall a
similar one in the spring of 2005), I end up feeling like a spokesperson
for Russia? (I in fact lean somewhere closer to the Russophobe pole than
the Russophile.) 

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From dtodaro at MICHIGAN.GOV  Wed Jan 31 22:45:13 2007
From: dtodaro at MICHIGAN.GOV (Donald Todaro)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:45:13 -0500
Subject: Article on Russia in The New Yorker
Message-ID: <WED.31.JAN.2007.174513.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>

For those who may be interested, the article's author Michael Specter
will be the guest tomorrow on NPR's program Fresh Air.  The shows are
usually available on Fresh Air's website the same day as they are
broadcast.  Here in Michigan the show will be broadcast at noon Eastern
time, and can be heard at that time by visiting:

http://www.michiganradio.org/

Don




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Library of Michigan

Dept. of History, Arts, & Libraries
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