Vocative for nominative

[Olga Meerson]

Most of my Serbian friends are referred to, in the third person, by the vocative form of their name. (Savvo, Oljgo, etc.). Moreover, the name (as they commemorate him at the ebtrance, in third person definitely!) of their Patriarch is PavlE, not Pavel. In contemporary Russian, it was common, for a while, to refer to your father confessor, if he also was a friend, as otche, not otec, in third person as well. But this reminds me more of the undeclinable nicknames in the ironic use of Bakhtin's chuzhaia rech' (considering that irony can be endearing)--on the same level as Raskol'nikov uses "kazhetsia" in his mother's letter as a noun in accusative. (Eta samaia Dunechka za eto kazhetsia zamuzh idet!)
Other people's examples were much more linguistically sound--and very interesting to me.
o.m.

----- Original Message -----
From: John Dunn <J.Dunn at SLAVONIC.ARTS.GLA.AC.UK>
Date: Tuesday, October 9, 2007 4:53 am
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Vocative for nominative

> Possible examples are found in Old Russian texts from the Novgorod 
> area.  See, for example, A.A. Zaliznjak, Drevnenovgorodskij 
> dialekt, pp. 82-87.
> 
> John Dunn.
> 
> 
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> From: kkwon at FAS.HARVARD.EDU
> To: SEELANGS at BAMA.UA.EDU
> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:22:37 -0400
> Subject: [SEELANGS] Vocative for nominative
> 
> Dear SEELANGers,
> 
> Does anyone know of any language (esp. in Slavic langauges), in 
> which vocative
> is used for nominative? I am excluding the case when a 
> default/unmarkednominative is used for vocative, i.e., John! Ivan!.
> 
> Among Slavic, I have heard/read about BCS (am I right in order?), 
> Slovenian,Belarussian (,and possibly Polish, to my vague memory) 
> have this kind of
> morphological substitution...
> 
> Many thanks in advance,
> 
> Joon
> 
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