Platonov and God
Robert Chandler
kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM
Wed Jan 14 05:59:59 UTC 2009
Thanks very much for this!
R.
> Dear Robert,
>
> I am not a specialist on Platonov, but I just wanted to point out that
> the end of the phrase "chto li" can indicate some frustration. So, if
> the translation was in a spoken language context, I would have
> translated it as:
> "O Lord, Lord, if only you were there, damn it!"
>
> Of course this might be inappropriate for Platonov's translation.
>
> Best wishes,
> -Miriam Shrager
> Indiana University, Bloomington
>
>
> -----------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:45:23 +0000
> From: Robert Chandler <kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
> Subject: Re: Platonov and God
>
> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:26:57 +0000
> From: Robert Chandler <kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
> Subject: Platonov and God
>
> Dear all,
>
> This line is from his play Sharmanka:
>
> O, Gospodi, Gospodi, khot=B9 by ty byl, chto li!
>
> This is not easy to translate. What I would particularly like help with is
> the =8Cchto li=B9. The sentence could end with =8Cbyl!=B9 What does
> the =8Cchto li=B9
> add to it?
>
> Vsego dobrogo,
>
> Robert
>
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> Yes, I agree with Olga here. Introducing 'there' weakens the meaning. It
> becomes possible to understand it as a matter of whether or not God is in
> some particular place, rather than whether or not he IS.
>
> Platonov often uses 'byl', 'yest'', etc, in this very bare way, as in this
> exchange from Kotlovan:
> 'Çà÷åì æå îí áûë?'
> 'Íå áûòü îí áîÿëñÿ.'
>
> I think we should settle for
> O Lord, Lord, if only you really were, or something!'
> O, Gospodi, Gospodi, khot=B9 by ty byl, chto li!
>
> Thanks to all of you!
>
> R.
>
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