a couple of words

[Sarah Hurst]

According to the text it says they are "very izlikny", which means it's unlikely to be the name of a tribe.

Sarah

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It seems this would be the name of a tribe.

Jon Jorgensen
Erskine Academy
309 Windsor Road
South China, Maine 04358
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Thanks for the suggestions. Sorry I didn't mention before that the document from 1710-11 quoted below is what I'm working on, I couldn't send any more messages to the list yesterday because I'd reached my quota. It's possible that the word is a misprint or a Chukchi word. 

Sarah

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Just a wild hunch. Could it be that the mysterious words are Chukchee 
ethnonyms (po chukotski) for tribes living there (Alaska or wherever)?

"Good is better than Evil, because it's Nicer" - Mammy Yokum (Al Capp)
Mr Kim Braithwaite, Translator
Russian and Georgian


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From: "John Dunn" <J.Dunn at SLAVONIC.ARTS.GLA.AC.UK>
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> When I eventually got onto the web-site found by Steve Marder, I 
> discovered that the word ??????? is part of a quotation from a source 
> dating from 1710-11.*  I suspect a misreading or a misprint, though if 
> that suspicion is correct, I haven't managed to work out what it should 
> be.  Interestingly, while playing around on Google, I came across another 
> quotation from the same source, though here the phrase ???? ??????? is 
> carefully omitted.
>
> John Dunn.
>
> *«?? ??? [Alaska, it seems] ????? ?? ??????? ???????? ? ???? ???????, ? 
> ??? ? ??? ??????, ? ????? ?????? ? ?????? ????. ?????? ?? ??? ?????? ? 
> ????????»  (quoted from Fedor Bejton's «????a ???? ?? ???? ?????? ?? 
> ???????? ???????»)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Marder <asred at COX.NET>
> To: SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu
> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 04:18:14 -0400
> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] a couple of words
>
>> Can anyone suggest a translation for the following: ??????? ?
>>
>> It's been suggested that it could mean either "stout" or "stealthy".
>
> The only occurrence of the word I came up with is the following, so at 
> least
> now we have minimal context to go on:
>
> http://zemkrug.ru/zemk8-6.html
>
> -
>
>
> John Dunn
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