Brat ’ ili ne brat’?

[Drew S]

I believe the Bologna process actually involves a 3 + 2 system, though various countries and/or universities (including Cambridge and Oxford) have yet to implement this system.

Respectfully,

Andrew Swearingen
Faculty of Medieval and Modern Languages
University of Oxford

On 16.08.2010, at 10:32, John Dunn wrote:

> Richard Robin's  question is worth looking at from a slightly different, more eurocentric angle.  The switch to a 4 + 2 system of higher education is a consequence of Russia having signed up to the Bologna process, a Council of Europe initiative which is supposed by this year to have created a common higher education space throughout Europe.   The effect of this on the Russian language will presumably be the adoption of some of the semi-standardised 'Bologna-type' vocabulary: бакалавр [bakalavr] and магистр [magistr] have already (re-)entered the language, though I'm not sure if брать курс [brat' kurs] will fall into this category.  It would also be reasonable to expect that some specifically Russian terminology (диплом [diplom], кандидат наук [kandidat nauk]) will in due course start to fall out of usage or survive with a different meaning.   But being already retired, I don't have to try to predict a time-scale for this!
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> Брать курс may be an English calque, but it is catching on quickly, and I
> suspect it is just a matter of time before it enters the general language. I
> usually hear this phrase plenty of times in Russia, but always from those
> who are talking about experiences in the U.S., e.g. Когда я была в
> Вашингтоне, я брал курсы по... Whenever I hear брать курс, I always ask, "Is
> this a fully accepted phrase yet?" The answer is usually something like:
> "Yes, to describe an American college experience."
> 
> The question is, as Russia moves to a more generalized four-year system of
> higher education, will брать курс become legitimized for the Russian
> experience? I bet yes, but not before I retire.
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