Fwd: Re: [SEELANGS] Equivalent to "corny"? Any suggestions?

[DBH]

That doesn't mean that provincial Kansas is corny, it's a pun, since there's a lot of corn in Kansas in the summer.


--- On Mon, 7/26/10, Melissa Smith <mtsmith02 at YSU.EDU> wrote:

> From: Melissa Smith <mtsmith02 at YSU.EDU>
> Subject: [SEELANGS] Fwd: Re: [SEELANGS] Equivalent to "corny"? Any suggestions?
> To: SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu
> Date: Monday, July 26, 2010, 12:24 PM
>  I think "corny" doesn't have as
> negative overtones as the options here 
> suggest.  It is closer to клише,
> провиннциальный - I think of someone 
> with cornsilk in their hair, a "hayseed."
> 
> As Nellie Forbush sings in "South Pacific": "I'm as corny
> as Kansas in 
> August" - there must be a Russian pop-culture
> equivalent!  
> 
> Melissa Smith
> 
> On 7/26/10 8:54 AM, anne marie devlin wrote:
> > 
> > A quick check on the much-maligned google translate
> will give 
> platitudinous and flimsy as definitions of пошлый
> which seem in line 
> with Nabokov's description and which therefore could relate
> to corny
> > 
> > AMD
> > > Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:45:50 +0100
> > > From: j.dunn at SLAVONIC.ARTS.GLA.AC.UK
> > > Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Equivalent to "corny"?
> Any suggestions?
> > > To: SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu
> > > 
> > > I wouldn't disagree with any of this, but if you
> take Z.E. 
> Aleksandrova's Slovar' sinonimov russkogo jazyka (my copy
> was published 
> by Sovetskaja entsiklopedija in 1968, but there may be
> other editions) 
> and look up банальный [banal'nyj], you will be
> offered seventeen 
> suggestions, several of which may be appropriate.
> Curiously, if you 
> look up пошлый [pošlyj], you are offered only
> вульгарный [vul'garnyj] 
> and a cross-reference to непристойный
> [nepristojnyj], neither of which 
> is helpful here.
> > > 
> > > John Dunn.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > __, ______________________________________
> > > From: SEELANGS: Slavic & East European
> Languages and Literatures 
> list [SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu]
> On Behalf Of Alex Shafaremlp 
> [A.Shafarenko at HERTS.AC.UK]
> > > Sent: 26 July 2010 13:15
> > > To: SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu
> > > Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Equivalent to "corny"?
> Any suggestions?
> > > 
> > > Although "corny" corresponds to the Russian word
> "banal'nyj" as in 
> "a corny
> > > movie"
> > > banal'nyj film, translation can hardly ever be
> word-to-word. There 
> is a very
> > > appropriate Russian word: poshlyj, which is so
> difficult to render 
> precisely
> > > in English, but which is so very appropriate in
> the suggested 
> context. I
> > > refer the interested reader to Nabokov's well
> known example of 
> poshlost' (a
> > > blond lad swimming daily with two swans in the
> pond beneath his 
> beloved's
> > > balcony ...) as well as the extensive critical
> writings on the 
> subject.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > 
> > > Alex
> > > 
> > > 
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