[SEELA NGS] Сочи
anne marie devlin
anne_mariedevlin at HOTMAIL.COM
Sun May 9 21:46:30 UTC 2010
Have a look at the website for Sochi 2014. I couldn't find a single example of the noun being declined. Surely, it's like other loan words such as viski and taksi?
http://sochi2014.ru/index.html
> Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 17:27:42 -0400
> From: aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU
> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Сочи
> To: SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu
>
> Should be
>
> Сочам — About 13,500 results
> Сочами — About 12,100 results
> Сочах — About 267,000 results
>
>
> Conclusion? This kind of statistical analysis cannot be conclusive;
> nominative and accusative are the most common cases. How much more
> common are they? I don't know. 267 thousand examples of uses is nothing
> to sneeze at, even if it's not the norm.
>
> Clearly Сочи is a strange word. Try an adjective. You can easily say
> любимая Москва, любимый Питер, любимый Париж. The most examples we get with
>
> любимый Сочи — About 1,600 results, hardly as many as the oblique cases
> of the declined version, but still the masculine wins, as opposed to:
>
> любимый город Сочи — About 240,000 results
>
> The conclusion is, as dictionaries like to write: употребление
> затруднительно. Yes, it has a gender, but fitting it into regular
> patterns feels as awkward as the genitive plural of the word мечта.
>
> Alina Israeli
>
> > I googled with the following results:
> >
> > Сочи almost 12 million hits
> > Сочей 47 000 hits
> > Сочям 723 hits. (For Сочам there are 17 000 hits, but most do not
> > seem to rfefer to the city)
> > Сочями 140 hits Сочами 11 700 hits,. not all refer to the city
> > Сочях 8 300 hits and Сочах 267 000 hits.
> >
> > Conclusion: ?????
> >
> > Frans Suasso
> >
> >
>
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