Сочи

Mark Kingdom k2kingdom at GMAIL.COM
Mon May 10 07:52:01 UTC 2010


I love reading all these answers! Amazing how much analysis a single little
word can cause.
Of course, this explains the debate I witnessed live between the two native
speakers. (Though
neither of them were as informed as you people. Amazing the knowledge on
this list.)



2010/5/10 Alina Israeli <aisrael at american.edu>

> Should be
>
> Сочам -- About 13,500 results
> Сочами -- About 12,100 results
> Сочах -- About 267,000 results
>
>
> Conclusion? This kind of statistical analysis cannot be conclusive;
> nominative and accusative are the most common cases. How much more common
> are they? I don't know.  267 thousand examples of uses is nothing to sneeze
> at, even if it's not the norm.
>
> Clearly Сочи is a strange word. Try an adjective. You can easily say
> любимая Москва, любимый Питер, любимый Париж. The most examples we get with
>
> любимый Сочи -- About 1,600 results, hardly as many as the oblique cases of
> the declined version, but still the masculine wins, as opposed to:
>
> любимый город Сочи -- About 240,000 results
>
> The conclusion is, as dictionaries like to write: употребление
> затруднительно. Yes, it has a gender, but fitting it into regular patterns
> feels as awkward as the genitive plural of the word мечта.
>
> Alina Israeli
>
>
>  I googled with the following results:
>>
>> Сочи    almost 12 million hits
>> Сочей  47  000  hits
>> Сочям 723 hits.   (For Сочам there are 17 000 hits, but most do not seem
>> to rfefer to the city)
>> Сочями 140 hits Сочами  11 700 hits,. not all refer to the city
>> Сочях 8 300 hits and  Сочах 267 000 hits.
>>
>> Conclusion: ?????
>>
>> Frans Suasso
>>
>>
>>
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