: V ili na?

yelena kalinsky kyelenak at GMAIL.COM
Wed Oct 13 00:07:42 UTC 2010 

Dear Liza,

Let me take a stab: you can say в сушилку if you're referring to
putting clothes in a clothes dryer, but you would say на сушилку or
even better на подставку для сушки посуды if you're talking about a
rack. But never в сушку, unless you want to say something like "into
the drying process" (сушка means the act of drying, rather than the
instrument by which one dries, be it a machine or rack). Make sense?

Yelena

On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 5:37 PM, B. Shir <redorbrown at yahoo.com> wrote:
> For some reason, I am not sure if it is possible to say поставить чашку НА сушилку!!!
> (В сушку/ В сушилку doesn't sound correct either!)Поставить чашку на стойку для сушки посуды sounds much better. I would like to know how Russians say this now, if at all.
> Liza Ginzburg
> Moika is of course rakovina:)  -- this was not my question...
> --- On Tue, 10/12/10, Nataliya Ushakova <nushakova at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> From: Nataliya Ushakova <nushakova at GMAIL.COM>
> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] sushka/vs sushilka dlia posudy: V ili na?
> To: SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu
> Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 12:54 PM
>
> Вы хотели сказать: раковина (moika) или сушилка (сушка) для посуды?
>
> Наташа Ушакова
>
> Staten Island Tec HS
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 1:05 PM, B. Shir <redorbrown at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Please help: I left Russia before we used "them" -postavit' posudu vo
>> vtoruiu sektsiiu moiki: "v" ili "na" sushilku?
>>
>> My choice would be "NA sushilku"
>>
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>> Liza Ginzburg
>> --- On Sat, 10/9/10, anne marie devlin <anne_mariedevlin at HOTMAIL.COM>
>> wrote:
>>
>> From: anne marie devlin <anne_mariedevlin at HOTMAIL.COM>
>> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] MGU protest calendar
>> To: SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu
>> Date: Saturday, October 9, 2010, 8:53 AM
>>
>> Thanks.  For some bizarre reason I always thought that it was uninflected!
>>
>> You live and learn!
>>
>> AM
>>
>> > Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 04:36:53 +0400
>> > From: oprokop at TEMPLE.EDU
>> > Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] MGU protest calendar
>> > To: SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu
>> >
>> > It's the prepositional case form of "bel'yo".
>> > OP
>> >
>> > 2010/10/8 anne marie devlin <anne_mariedevlin at hotmail.com>
>> >
>> > > Excellent link! I would just like to ask a question re: pronunciation.
>> > > The newsreader talks about the girls being in their 'nizhnem bel'ye'. I
>> > > always thought it was 'bel'yo' . Are both possible?
>> > >
>> > > AN
>> > > > Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 14:59:14 -0400
>> > > > From: oprokop at TEMPLE.EDU
>> > > > Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] MGU protest calendar
>> > > > To: SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu
>> > > >
>> > > > My students had a lot of fun reading about the first project and
>> > > listening
>> > > > to this interview with one of its "продюсер" (see the link below).
>> > > > The other interviewee was one of the six female students responsible
>> for
>> > > the
>> > > > "alernative calendar".
>> > > >
>> > >
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/radio/radio_bbseva/2010/10/101007_bbseva_alternative_calendar.shtml
>> > > >
>> > > > Olia Prokopenko,
>> > > > Russian Program Coordinator
>> > > >
>> > > > Anderson Hall 551
>> > > > FGIS, Temple University,
>> > > > 1114 W.Berks St.
>> > > > Philadelphia, PA 19122
>> > > > tel. (215)-204-1768
>> > > > oprokop at temple.edu
>> > > >
>> > > > On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Josh Wilson <jwilson at sras.org>
>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Sometimes indeed stupidity looks just too stupid too actually be
>> > > stupidity
>> > > > > -
>> > > > > the reasoned, learned mind really searches for some deeper meaning
>> or
>> > > > > joke...
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Very, very often, however, as much as we would like it to be
>> > > otherwise....
>> > > > > it really is just stupidity.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Josh Wilson
>> > > > > Assistant Director
>> > > > > The School of Russian and Asian Studies
>> > > > > Editor in Chief
>> > > > > Vestnik, The Journal of Russian and Asian Studies
>> > > > > SRAS.org
>> > > > > jwilson at sras.org
>> > > > >
>> > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > From: SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures
>> list
>> > > > > [mailto:SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of RYLKOVA,GALINA S
>> > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 9:11 PM
>> > > > > To: SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu
>> > > > > Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] MGU protest calendar
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Dear Vitaly,
>> > > > > Whatever the original intention was, it surely looks and reads as
>> > > > > a parody of official tributes, celebrations, jubilee
>> > > > > congratulations, etc.
>> > > > > All the best,
>> > > > > Galya
>> > > > > On Thu Oct 07 13:00:24 EDT 2010, "Chernetsky, Vitaly A. Dr."
>> > > > > <chernev at MUOHIO.EDU> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Dear Galya, dear All, No, unfortunately the original calendar
>> > > > > > wasn't a parody, but a project sponsored by the "Nashi" movement.
>> > > > > > Please see a comment by Elena Gapova, a member of this list, in
>> > > > > > her blog on LiveJournal (including a link to a YouTube clip that
>> > > > > > was meant to accompany the original "Nashi" calendar):
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > http://pigbig.livejournal.com/513976.html
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Best,
>> > > > > > VC
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > ________________________________________
>> > > > > > From: SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures
>> > > > > > list [SEELANGS at BAMA.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of RYLKOVA,GALINA S
>> > > > > > [grylkova at UFL.EDU]
>> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 12:54 PM
>> > > > > > To: SEELANGS at BAMA.UA.EDU
>> > > > > > Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] MGU protest calendar
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Eric,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Don't you think that the first one was a parody as well?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Galya
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Thu Oct 07 12:16:16 EDT 2010, naiman at BERKELEY.EDU wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >> Today's Guardian has an article on an inventive (and brave) act
>> > > > > >> of protest
>> > > > > >> by several MGU journalism students, a reaction to (and serious
>> > > > > >> parody) of
>> > > > > >> an earlier calendar intended as a birthday present to Putin.
>> > > > > >> For a link to the story -- and to the calendar -- see below
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > >
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/oct/07/russian-journalism-students-cale
>> > > > > ndar
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> http://liz-anderson.livejournal.com/76145.html
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > >
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