быbefore or after verb

[William Ryan]

  To my equally non-native ear there is also a question of contrastive 
emphasis within the sentence, i.e. is the emphasis on the subject or the 
predicate

On 16/09/2010 10:06, John Dunn wrote:
> In some informal varieties of Russian you can have your cake and eat it by placing �� [by] both after the first stressed word and after the verb: � �� ����� �� ... [Ja by kupil by].  To my non-native speaker's ear this repeated �� might be interpreted either as stressing the conditionality of the action or as an attempt to drag the sentence out and by so temporising gain time to think of an excuse.
>
> John Dunn.
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> From: SEELANGS: Slavic&  East European Languages and Literatures list [SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Kingdom [k2kingdom at GMAIL.COM]
> Sent: 15 September 2010 17:19
> To: SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu
> Subject: [SEELANGS] �� before or after verb
>
> Hi all,
>
> I wrote the following sentence to a Russian friend of mine:
>
> � ����� �� ��� ����, �� � ���� ��� �����.
>
> She replied, (quoting) "...using �� after the verb is lazy, as if you are
> giving yourself time to think of an excuse."
>
> She says it is better to use �� before the verb: � �� ����� ��� ����, �� �
> ���� ��� �����.
>
> I was taught that you can say it either way. What *is* the difference in
> placement? Do you agree with my friend's statement?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mark
>
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