Snimat'

[Simon Beattie]

Thanks.  That's very helpful.

Simon

-----Original Message-----
From: SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures list
[mailto:SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Dunn
Sent: 17 September 2010 10:17
To: SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Snimat'

The fourth edition was published in 1914, though the same wording can be
found in the second edition (1880-82).  A Google search of the phrase
Словарь Даля [Slovar' Dalja] comes up with numerous on-line versions; it may
be that somebody on this list has had the time and patience to conduct a
'consumer survey' and can say whether any is to be particularly recommended
or, indeed, to be avoided.  What I did notice was that those versions that
specify the edition (not all do) seem to use the first or the second
(presumably a more refined search would establish whether there is an
on-line version of the fourth edition) and that some use a modernised
spelling.

John Dunn.

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[SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Simon Beattie [Simon at SIMONBEATTIE.CO.UK]
Sent: 17 September 2010 10:41
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Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Snimat'

Thank you very much, John.  I don't have reference to a copy of Dal' (or is
it available online)?

When was the fourth edition published, out of interest?

Simon


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Dunn
Sent: 17 September 2010 09:34
To: SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Snimat'

Dal' (4th edn, IV, col. 320) suggests that снимать/снять портрет
[snimat'/snjat' portret] could be used with reference to either a drawing or
a photograph.

John Dunn.

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[SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Simon Beattie [Simon at SIMONBEATTIE.CO.UK]
Sent: 17 September 2010 10:20
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Subject: [SEELANGS] Snimat'

Dear List,



I have been reading about the artist and icon-painter Lev Stepanovich
Igorev.  One source I found says:



Сохранились сведения, что художник, живя в Пекине, <снимал портреты с
некоторых знатных китайцев>, а сам Игорев писал в воспоминаниях об этом
времени, что много рисовал, особенно то, <что интересовало его>.



[Sokranilos' svedeniia, chto khudozhnik, zhivia v Pekine, "snimal portrety s
nekotorykh znatnykh kitaitsev", a sam Igorev pisal v vospominaniiakh ob etom
vrememi, chto mnogo risoval, osobenno to, "chto interesovalo ego".]



This was in about 1860.  As well as being a portrait painter, Igorev
apparently also took photographs.  1860 would have been quite early for
photography in China.  My question is: can "snimat'" only refer to
photography, or other drawings and pictures as well?  What did the verb mean
in the nineteenth century?  Might it have had a wider sense then?



Many thanks.



Simon





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