Snimat'

[Hugh McLean]

The fourth edition was reprinted in Tokyo, of all places, in the 1930s. 
In Soviet times this edition was taboo, apparently because it included 
"four-letter" words.  The earlier editions did not.
> The fourth edition was published in 1914, though the same wording can be found in the second edition (1880-82).  A Google search of the phrase Словарь Даля [Slovar' Dalja] comes up with numerous on-line versions; it may be that somebody on this list has had the time and patience to conduct a 'consumer survey' and can say whether any is to be particularly recommended or, indeed, to be avoided.  What I did notice was that those versions that specify the edition (not all do) seem to use the first or the second (presumably a more refined search would establish whether there is an on-line version of the fourth edition) and that some use a modernised spelling.
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> John Dunn.
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> From: SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures list [SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Simon Beattie [Simon at SIMONBEATTIE.CO.UK]
> Sent: 17 September 2010 10:41
> To: SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Snimat'
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> Thank you very much, John.  I don't have reference to a copy of Dal' (or is
> it available online)?
>
> When was the fourth edition published, out of interest?
>
> Simon
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures list
> [mailto:SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Dunn
> Sent: 17 September 2010 09:34
> To: SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Snimat'
>
> Dal' (4th edn, IV, col. 320) suggests that снимать/снять портрет
> [snimat'/snjat' portret] could be used with reference to either a drawing or
> a photograph.
>
> John Dunn.
>
> __________________
> From: SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures list
> [SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Simon Beattie [Simon at SIMONBEATTIE.CO.UK]
> Sent: 17 September 2010 10:20
> To: SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu
> Subject: [SEELANGS] Snimat'
>
> Dear List,
>
>
>
> I have been reading about the artist and icon-painter Lev Stepanovich
> Igorev.  One source I found says:
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>
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> Сохранились сведения, что художник, живя в Пекине, <снимал портреты с
> некоторых знатных китайцев>, а сам Игорев писал в воспоминаниях об этом
> времени, что много рисовал, особенно то, <что интересовало его>.
>
>
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> [Sokranilos' svedeniia, chto khudozhnik, zhivia v Pekine, "snimal portrety s
> nekotorykh znatnykh kitaitsev", a sam Igorev pisal v vospominaniiakh ob etom
> vrememi, chto mnogo risoval, osobenno to, "chto interesovalo ego".]
>
>
>
> This was in about 1860.  As well as being a portrait painter, Igorev
> apparently also took photographs.  1860 would have been quite early for
> photography in China.  My question is: can "snimat'" only refer to
> photography, or other drawings and pictures as well?  What did the verb mean
> in the nineteenth century?  Might it have had a wider sense then?
>
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>
> Many thanks.
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>
> Simon
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