Is it of much use?
Jules Levin
ameliede at EARTHLINK.NET
Fri Mar 9 03:25:19 UTC 2012
Is it just me, or are things becoming more complicated? AM
More complicated than anyone seems to think so far.
First, English. The system that has been described here is rather
formal and does not reflect spoken English
in either North America or UK. For decades I have been collecting
examples of the actual spoken future tense in English. The most common
future form is "I'm gonna read..." It is at least potentially
contrasted with the less common--and shrinking "I'll read..." Re the
difference, compare "She's gonna have a baby."--She is pregnant--and
"She'll have a baby..." (Just to please her mother...) There are other
clear examples. Before my English colleagues insist this is American,
they should goggle "gonna" only from .uk sources. I first noticed this
whole phenomenon reading the Sunday Times while studying in Norway in
1963. I could go on at length; in fact I have a lecture ready to go:
"Going, gonna, gone--the disappearing "will" future in English." Nor
does this form gonna have the despised status of "ain't". I have
examples of its use in otherwise high style prose. Take a yellow pad,
make columns for "gonna", "will", "'ll", "going to", and turn on the
TV--news, commentary, drama, etc., and start checking off every future
you hear. You will be astounded.
As for Russian, has anyone mentioned the implied perfect of simple
unprefixed verbs in the past tense, e.g.,
[Sorry about the Latin--too much in a hurry to get this out to paste in
Cyrillic] Ty chital Voinu i Mir?
Da, chital. The speaker wants to know if you read the novel. The
response states that you read the novel. Not that you read "in it", or
some of it, or started it... If in fact you never finished it, you are
sorta fibbing...
There are many more examples possible. (I expect to be dumped on by
some native speakers...so be it--bloody but unbowed...)
Best to my colleagues,
Jules Levin
Los Angeles
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