conundrum

[Helen Halva]

I am a native speaker of American English and was taught to use "myself" 
only emphatically (I, myself, hate ice cream, although everyone else 
likes it . . . ) and reflexively (I saw myself in the mirror), and 
perhaps adjectivally (that might not be the right term) ---  (myself 
(being) a student, I could not count on a salary as the others could).  
I was taught that the other usage you cite should be "me," not 
"myself."  That said, the usage of "myself" as a normal direct object is 
quite old, at least in American English --- I think it was used by Ben 
Franklin and others of that day.

HH

On 5/5/2012 4:04 PM, Patrick Corness wrote:
>
> There are some (to me) slightly puzzling uses of English by native 
> speakers amongst this correspondence, presumably intended to assist 
> non-native speakers.
> I beg to differ about Paul Gallagher's claim that, talking about 
> factories, one cannot say:
> "We built a big one, an expensive one, and a pasta one." Paul writes:
>
>     > Agreed. But nouns cannot be used with "one" the way adjectives can:
>     > We built a big, expensive, pasta factory.
>     > We built a big one, an expensive one, and a *pasta one.
>
>
> On the other hand, I also find the use of /myself /instead of the 
> anticipated /me /incongruous in the following statement
>
>
>     "Though you can, of course, always ask Paul Gallagher and myself
>     and split the difference."
>     cf:
>
>     You can ask yourself
>
>     I can ask myself
>     You can ask *myself
>
>
> Patrick Corness
>
>
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> > Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 15:58:54 +0100
> > From: John.Dunn at GLASGOW.AC.UK
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