in the city of N

J P Maher devilsbit06 at YAHOO.COM
Tue Nov 5 04:10:26 UTC 2013


Lots of Latin abbreviations are international: p. 'page'/pp. 'pages', l. 'line', ll. 'lines'; c. 'copy' cc. 'copies'...
Un-Latined souls think the latter is for 'carbon copy', even though not many younger people have ever seen or used carbon paper.  Western loan also: W. C. used even  in Cyrillic countries, and though the initials stand for English 'water closet, they are read with the German names for  W 've' + C 'tse'... If I'm not mistaken, I remember seeing WC on the toilet door of a CSSA Il 18 in 1966. X-ray also widely exported, even used e.g. in Japanese
 

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 From: R. M. Cleminson <rmcleminson at POST.SK>
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N. stands for "nomen".  It was the convention all over Europe to write "N." anywhere where an unspecified name needed to be supplied, and so this
 is a "westernising" feature in Russian literature (the Slavonic equivalent is имярекъ).

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Odoslané: pondelok, 4. november 2013 14:19:50
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Dear SEELANGers 

An internet friend with an engaging blog called LanguageHat posed a question a few days ago that I’m embarrassed to say I don’t know the answer to and in fact never thought to ask. He asked why Russian authors writing about provincial cities called them “N” (or S, etc.). Beyond “it’s a convention” and “it gives an air of verisimilitude” – I have no idea. Where did this convention come from? Has anyone written about this? 



The second question that followed: can anyone think of pre-revolutionary Russian fiction about provincial cities (other than St. Petersburg and Moscow) where the city is identified? 

Many thanks! 

Michele Berdy 

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