From maberdy at GMAIL.COM  Sun Sep  1 10:00:08 2013
From: maberdy at GMAIL.COM (Michele A Berdy)
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 14:00:08 +0400
Subject: Putin Art
In-Reply-To: <002101cea66a$e1cbff30$a563fd90$@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <SUN.1.SEP.2013.140008.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

In "whataboutism," you pick one aspect of a situation in Russia and find
analogous situations in the US. In the case of Altunin's paintings, it's
"find cases where the authorities objected to art making fun of leaders." 

And there's a slew of them - only when you look at them, you see that they
are more different than similar. In the US, many of the cases were only
attempts to block exhibitions, thwarted by legal action or threat of legal
action. Or it wasn't the authorities who objected, it was the public who was
outraged. In many of the examples, it's an issue of public funding for the
arts - including publicly funded museums -- which has nothing to do with the
case in St. Petersburg. In the case of Diego Rivera's piece, it was a
privately commissioned work of art and had nothing to do with either the
authorities or the public.  

But the biggest difference is in the consequences for the art and artist. In
the case of Altunin - and here I must assume people don't know this, or they
wouldn't have written what they did - the paintings were confiscated and are
being analyzed for extremism. That could land Altunin in jail for two years.
Or there might be an "insult to the feelings of believers" in the painting
of the Patriarch. That's another year in jail. Or it might be "slander of
officials" in all of them. He might face a serious jail term for his
paintings. I don't think there were any consequences for the artists in the
US (somewhere there may have been pornography charges, but not, I think, in
any cases of depictions of political figures). 

Oh, right - the clown. If mandatory sensitivity training is "far too close
to police action," then what is a 5-year jail term for a snarky painting? 

I would also like to clarify why I, personally, am critical. It isn't
because someone - authorities or the public - objected to art or tried to
get exhibitions closed. That happens everywhere.  

I'm outraged that an artist might face a lengthy jail term for a snarky
painting, and that in the context of the new laws that inhibit or forbid any
public disagreement with the authorities, apparently making jokes about them
in art is also against the law.

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From kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM  Sun Sep  1 10:29:13 2013
From: kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Robert Chandler)
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 11:29:13 +0100
Subject: Putin Art
In-Reply-To: <026101cea6fa$0b568f20$2203ad60$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SUN.1.SEP.2013.112913.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Thank you, Michele, for this extremely clear and sensible letter.  And I shall remember your "whataboutism"!

All the best,

Robert

On 1 Sep 2013, at 11:00, Michele A Berdy <maberdy at GMAIL.COM> wrote:

> In "whataboutism," you pick one aspect of a situation in Russia and find
> analogous situations in the US. In the case of Altunin's paintings, it's
> "find cases where the authorities objected to art making fun of leaders." 
> 
> And there's a slew of them - only when you look at them, you see that they
> are more different than similar. In the US, many of the cases were only
> attempts to block exhibitions, thwarted by legal action or threat of legal
> action. Or it wasn't the authorities who objected, it was the public who was
> outraged. In many of the examples, it's an issue of public funding for the
> arts - including publicly funded museums -- which has nothing to do with the
> case in St. Petersburg. In the case of Diego Rivera's piece, it was a
> privately commissioned work of art and had nothing to do with either the
> authorities or the public.  
> 
> But the biggest difference is in the consequences for the art and artist. In
> the case of Altunin - and here I must assume people don't know this, or they
> wouldn't have written what they did - the paintings were confiscated and are
> being analyzed for extremism. That could land Altunin in jail for two years.
> Or there might be an "insult to the feelings of believers" in the painting
> of the Patriarch. That's another year in jail. Or it might be "slander of
> officials" in all of them. He might face a serious jail term for his
> paintings. I don't think there were any consequences for the artists in the
> US (somewhere there may have been pornography charges, but not, I think, in
> any cases of depictions of political figures). 
> 
> Oh, right - the clown. If mandatory sensitivity training is "far too close
> to police action," then what is a 5-year jail term for a snarky painting? 
> 
> I would also like to clarify why I, personally, am critical. It isn't
> because someone - authorities or the public - objected to art or tried to
> get exhibitions closed. That happens everywhere.  
> 
> I'm outraged that an artist might face a lengthy jail term for a snarky
> painting, and that in the context of the new laws that inhibit or forbid any
> public disagreement with the authorities, apparently making jokes about them
> in art is also against the law.
> 
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From aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU  Sun Sep  1 15:22:48 2013
From: aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU (Alina Israeli)
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 11:22:48 -0400
Subject: Putin Art
In-Reply-To: <026101cea6fa$0b568f20$2203ad60$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SUN.1.SEP.2013.112248.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Did anyone mention in this respect that Altunin has asked for  
political asylum: http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/russia/2013/08/130829_altunin_artist_asylum.shtml 
  ?
Or have I missed it?

On Sep 1, 2013, at 6:00 AM, Michele A Berdy wrote:
>
>
> But the biggest difference is in the consequences for the art and  
> artist. In
> the case of Altunin - and here I must assume people don't know this,  
> or they
> wouldn't have written what they did - the paintings were confiscated  
> and are
> being analyzed for extremism. That could land Altunin in jail for  
> two years.
> Or there might be an "insult to the feelings of believers" in the  
> painting
> of the Patriarch. That's another year in jail. Or it might be  
> "slander of
> officials" in all of them. He might face a serious jail term for his
> paintings. I don't think there were any consequences for the artists  
> in the
> US (somewhere there may have been pornography charges, but not, I  
> think, in
> any cases of depictions of political figures).
>
>

Alina Israeli
Associate Professor of Russian
WLC, American University
4400 Massachusetts Ave.
Washington DC 20016
(202) 885-2387 	fax (202) 885-1076
aisrael at american.edu






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From aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU  Sun Sep  1 15:55:14 2013
From: aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU (Alina Israeli)
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 11:55:14 -0400
Subject: Putin Art
In-Reply-To: <026101cea6fa$0b568f20$2203ad60$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SUN.1.SEP.2013.115514.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Considering the punishment any comparison of Putin with an elected  
leader elsewhere is inappropriate. The Russian law is equal to lèse- 
majesté (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A8se-majest%C3%A9), which  
only four out of 10 European monarchies still have on the books, hence  
Putin should be compared to a monarch, preferably of Asian variety.


On Sep 1, 2013, at 6:00 AM, Michele A Berdy wrote:
>
> But the biggest difference is in the consequences for the art and  
> artist. In
> the case of Altunin - and here I must assume people don't know this,  
> or they
> wouldn't have written what they did - the paintings were confiscated  
> and are
> being analyzed for extremism. That could land Altunin in jail for  
> two years.
> Or there might be an "insult to the feelings of believers" in the  
> painting
> of the Patriarch. That's another year in jail. Or it might be  
> "slander of
> officials" in all of them. He might face a serious jail term for his
> paintings. I don't think there were any consequences for the artists  
> in the
> US (somewhere there may have been pornography charges, but not, I  
> think, in
> any cases of depictions of political figures).
>
>

Alina Israeli
Associate Professor of Russian
WLC, American University
4400 Massachusetts Ave.
Washington DC 20016
(202) 885-2387 	fax (202) 885-1076
aisrael at american.edu






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From colkitto at ROGERS.COM  Sun Sep  1 19:49:10 2013
From: colkitto at ROGERS.COM (Robert Orr)
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 15:49:10 -0400
Subject: Putin Art
In-Reply-To: <B48C9407-FBBA-4A10-A52A-42EF7E4B7245@middlebury.edu>
Message-ID: <SUN.1.SEP.2013.154910.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

> Let's see. what can we make fun of Putin for, when he's a Russian straight
male and President. in some way that takes advantage of the
non-Russian-straight-male privilege that the majority in power have?

> oh...

> NOTHING!

Well, let's see.

Over the past twenty-odd years Russia's currency has collapsed. 
It lost its empire and influence far faster than even Britain did, and its
economy dropped from second in the world to below those of the Netherlands,
Australia, and even certain individual US states, etc.
It was powerless to stop its former satellites going over to NATO.
It might be confronting demographic collapse. 
And think of the reversal in positions between Russia and China over the
same period   

Suggesting that Putin is psychologically privileged compared to his
immediate predecessors might be another interesting discussion .... 




On Aug 31, 2013, at 12:53 PM, "Rylkova,Galina S" <grylkova at UFL.EDU>
 wrote:

> Susanne Fusso wrote:
>> Re Robert Orr's message, I do not think that spontaneous public 
>> outrage (NOT police action) about racist minstrelsy performed against 
>> the first African-American president at a state fair should be filed 
>> under "political correctness."
> 
> If we start applying this logic, then we can say: how could anyone dare to
make fun of Putin, the first non-drinking-himself-to-death Russian
president? The first ..... you name it.
> 
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From culik at BLISTY.CZ  Sun Sep  1 19:49:54 2013
From: culik at BLISTY.CZ (Jan Culik)
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 14:49:54 -0500
Subject: National Mythologies in Central European TV Series: How J.R. Won
 the Cold War, ed. by Jan Culik (Sussex Academic Press, 2013),
 ISBN 978-1-84519-596-0, 224 p
Message-ID: <SUN.1.SEP.2013.144954.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Colleagues might be interested in this new publication:


National Mythologies in Central European TV Series: How J.R. Won the Cold War, ed. by Jan Culik (Sussex Academic Press, 2013),  ISBN   
978-1-84519-596-0, 224 pp.

Date of publication: 2nd September, 2013

http://www.sussex-academic.com/sa/titles/CulturalSocialStudies/CulikTV.htm

The first ever international comparative study of the mythologies which popular TV series in Czechoslovakia/Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland and Romania – made before and after the fall of communism – disseminate in their societies. The publication is intended as a contribution to inter-cultural understanding between the countries of the European Union. A cooperative project of colleagues from Glasgow University's College of Arts and College of Social Sciences and of academics from universities in the Czech Republic, Poland and Romania.

A publication output, related to British Academy research project no. SG102202 and the EU "Education for Competitiveness" research project no. CZ.1.07/2.3.00/20.0125.

Best wishes


Jan Culik
Czech Studies
School of Modern Languages and Cultures

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From colkitto at ROGERS.COM  Sun Sep  1 19:56:09 2013
From: colkitto at ROGERS.COM (Robert Orr)
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 15:56:09 -0400
Subject: Putin Art
In-Reply-To: <026101cea6fa$0b568f20$2203ad60$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SUN.1.SEP.2013.155609.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

> Oh, right - the clown. If mandatory sensitivity training is "far too close
to police action," then what is a 5-year jail term for a snarky painting? 

I should have added that the state fair also placed the clown under a
lifetime employment ban.  

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From aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU  Sun Sep  1 20:54:55 2013
From: aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU (Alina Israeli)
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 16:54:55 -0400
Subject: (Putin Art) Russian economy
In-Reply-To: <006d01cea74c$53ff0ca0$fbfd25e0$@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <SUN.1.SEP.2013.165455.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

It really pays to know the facts:

The currency collapsed under Yeltsin. Putin had nothing to do with that.

Russia never was "second economy in the world", it was second military  
power in the world. Hence the 2nd GDP in 1990 http://www.theodora.com/wfb/1990/rankings/gdp_million_1.html 
  , ironically enough at the time when there was no food in stores, no  
soap, no toothpaste etc (and clothing as expensive as ever), there  
were coupons for all basic goods, and in general the country was on  
the eve of economic collapse. That was the time when the US government  
subsidized food airpackages to the Soviet Union (you would pay for  
surface rate, and the package would be shipped by air). That was the  
time when there were trucks with humanitarian aid from Germany. Sad  
memories.

Remember G7? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G7  Why 7? Because Russia's  
economy was not big enough and not free enough. In order not to offend  
Boris (with the stress on the first syllable) when the economy lived  
from one IMF loan to the next, they included Russia into G-8. The size  
of the land and the nukes have their privileges.

Now Russia is #10, ahead of the Netherlands http://econpost.com/worldeconomy/world-economy-ranking
Some states are indeed large and productive, Texas is larger than  
France. And yes, California is doing better than Russia http://econpost.com/californiaeconomy/california-economy-ranking-among-world-economies

Meanwhile Russia shrank from 1/6 of world land to 1/8. And the  
population shrank (and continues shrinking). But that's not the main  
problem.

HOWEVER, if they figure out how to include corruption into GDP, after  
all it does provide some service, they could easily get on top. And  
it's just as useful as all those rusting tanks.

What's more interesting is that there are areas where Russia is #1  
(not only in divorce rate): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_rankings_of_Russia


On Sep 1, 2013, at 3:49 PM, Robert Orr wrote:

> Over the past twenty-odd years Russia's currency has collapsed.
> It lost its empire and influence far faster than even Britain did,  
> and its
> economy dropped from second in the world to below those of the  
> Netherlands,
> Australia, and even certain individual US states, etc.


> Suggesting that Putin is psychologically privileged compared to his
> immediate predecessors might be another interesting discussion ....

Alina Israeli
Associate Professor of Russian
WLC, American University
4400 Massachusetts Ave.
Washington DC 20016
(202) 885-2387 	fax (202) 885-1076
aisrael at american.edu






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From ewb2 at CORNELL.EDU  Mon Sep  2 03:39:24 2013
From: ewb2 at CORNELL.EDU (E Wayles Browne)
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 03:39:24 +0000
Subject: International Congress of Slavists?
Message-ID: <MON.2.SEP.2013.033924.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Not all of us could attend the Congress in Minsk. Perhaps colleagues who were there might share some impressions. Were there startling new discoveries or reports?
Yours,

--
Wayles Browne, Prof. of Linguistics
Department of Linguistics
Morrill Hall 220, Cornell University
Ithaca, New York 14853, U.S.A.

tel. 607-255-0712 (o), 607-273-3009 (h)
fax 607-255-2044 (write FOR W. BROWNE)
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From paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM  Mon Sep  2 07:07:51 2013
From: paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM (Paul B. Gallagher)
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 03:07:51 -0400
Subject: Resources on the language of the Kryashen (or Kerashen) Tatars
In-Reply-To: <CACRt+YP1ExB7qAZosyCRVt_Ys3d7EdunUQ6ewxRcyYXnFEqAbg@mail.gmail.com>
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Brian Hayden wrote:

> Dear SEELANGers,
>
> Does anyone know if anything has been written about the language of the
> Kryashen Tatars, either in Russian or English?

Very sketchy info here, with three citations at the bottom here; the 
first one looks best:
<http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D1%80%D1%8F%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D1%8F%D0%B7%D1%8B%D0%BA>
or
<http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Кряшенский_язык>

Here's the citation:
Баязитова, Ф. С. Говоры татар-кряшен в сравнительном освещении / Отв. 
ред. Ф. С. Хакимзянов. — М.: Наука, 1986. — 247 с.


Very sketchy info here, too, with an image of a Kryashen Tatar text 
(looks like two facing pages out of a bible):
<http://vk.com/topic-16327457_28498084>


And here's a piece more about language policy than about the features of 
the dialect, but it does have some anecdotal stuff about features:
<http://www.academia.edu/4237198/On_the_problem_of_Kryashens_Tatars_and_the_General_Census_of_Population_in_Russia>


This page gives a basic classification within the Turkic language 
family, but little or nothing about features:
<http://www.audicarparts.ru/leozavtiof46no-goevto/%D0%9A%D1%80%D1%8F%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D1%8F%D0%B7%D1%8B%D0%BA>
or
<http://www.audicarparts.ru/leozavtiof46no-goevto/Кряшенский_язык>


Hope that helps a little.


-- 
War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
--
Paul B. Gallagher
pbg translations, inc.
"Russian Translations That Read Like Originals"
http://pbg-translations.com

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From bkhayden1990 at GMAIL.COM  Mon Sep  2 01:12:04 2013
From: bkhayden1990 at GMAIL.COM (Brian Hayden)
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 21:12:04 -0400
Subject: Resources on the language of the Kryashen (or Kerashen) Tatars
Message-ID: <SUN.1.SEP.2013.211204.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Dear SEELANGers,

Does anyone know if anything has been written about the language of the
Kryashen Tatars, either in Russian or English?

Sincerely,

Brian Hayden

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From John.Dunn at GLASGOW.AC.UK  Mon Sep  2 10:00:02 2013
From: John.Dunn at GLASGOW.AC.UK (John Dunn)
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 11:00:02 +0100
Subject: Putin Art
In-Reply-To: <1D75806B-DB97-49D5-8EC3-7F2A7AF4CD0A@american.edu>
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It is not entirely inappropriate: in Italy there is the crime of 'vilipendio', i.e. insulting the dignity of the President of the Republic (as well as, inter alia, certain state institutions and religious confessions).  In so far as it relates to the President this law is rarely, if ever, applied, though one argument that I have seen for retaining it is that the Head of State lacks other legal remedies against defamation.

But I wonder if by concentrating on the Putin/Medvedev painting we are not missing the point.  The police action followed a complaint by Vitalij Milonov, who is one the main initiators of the laws relating to the propaganda of non-traditional sexual orientations and who is likely to have taken as much, if not more offence at the way he was depicted .  Mocking Milonov and his counterpart in the State Duma, Elena Mizulina, has become something of a national sport recently: even Al'fred Kokh, whom some may remember for his role in helping to dismember NTV in 2001, has got himself involved.   This is fine, except that the deputies are fighting back, and there may be further action to come from the various law enforcement agencies.

John Dunn.   
________________________________________
From: SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures list [SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Alina Israeli [aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU]
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Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Putin Art

Considering the punishment any comparison of Putin with an elected leader elsewhere is inappropriate. The Russian law is equal to lèse-majesté (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A8se-majest%C3%A9<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%25C3%25A8se-majest%25C3%25A9>), which only four out of 10 European monarchies still have on the books, hence Putin should be compared to a monarch, preferably of Asian variety.

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From art2t at EMAIL.VIRGINIA.EDU  Mon Sep  2 13:52:26 2013
From: art2t at EMAIL.VIRGINIA.EDU (Rachel Stauffer)
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 09:52:26 -0400
Subject: Reminder: Call for Contributors, Critical Insights,
 Russia's Golden Age
Message-ID: <MON.2.SEP.2013.095226.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Critical Insights is a multi-volume series that offers original
introductory criticism on key authors, works, and themes in literature that
are addressed in core reading lists at the undergraduate level. The quality
of scholarship and the level of analysis for this series are designed to
provide the best and most well-rounded overviews of the authors, works, and
themes covered. Each volume is peer edited by a scholar in the field. The
result is a collection of authoritative, in-depth scholarship suitable for
students and teachers alike. All chapters are written as original material
and include an MLA-styled “Works Cited” section and bibliography.
Previously published by Salem Press, the series is now being overseen by Grey
House Publishing <http://www.greyhouse.com/>.

The editor of a new Critical Insights volume on Russia's Golden Age seeks
contributors to write one of the following topics (this list has been
updated since the earlier e-mail announcement on SEELANGS):

Romanticism, Poetry, and the Superfluous Man
Alexander Pushkin
The Natural School and Russian Realism
Lev Tolstoy
19th Century Women Authors
Music, Art, and Theater
Anton Chekhov

Final drafts of chapters of approximately 5,000 words will be due on or
around October 15th, 2013. Note that the content of this volume is more
introductory and canonical, rather than concerned with new approaches or
perspectives.

The editor is also seeking authors for 3 introductory critical context
chapters of 5,000 words each. These chapters are broader in their scope,
and address, respectively, a chapter devoted to comparison and contrast
(pertaining to Russia's Golden Age either in comparison and contrast with
other periods of Russian literature or with other periods of literature in
other regions of the world); a critical reception chapter and a critical
lens chapter. The latter two chapters offer the opportunity to discuss
theoretical and political issues relevant to Russian literature in this
period.

To be considered as a contributor, please send a short abstract of a
proposed chapter on one of the above topics and a brief CV via e-mail
by *September
4th, 2013* to Rachel Stauffer at rstauffer at ferrum.edu or
rachelstauffer at gmail.com

-- 
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Assistant Professor of Russian, Ferrum College
Conference Manager, AATSEEL
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From colkitto at ROGERS.COM  Mon Sep  2 21:32:35 2013
From: colkitto at ROGERS.COM (Robert Orr)
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 17:32:35 -0400
Subject: (Putin Art) Russian economy
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Ø  It really pays to know the facts:

 

Indeed

 

Ø  Russia never was "second economy in the world”

 

Not even from the immediate post-war period until the  late(ish) 1970’s?

In any case, its image as such lingered on far after it ceased to be true. 

 


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From colkitto at ROGERS.COM  Mon Sep  2 22:00:34 2013
From: colkitto at ROGERS.COM (Robert Orr)
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 18:00:34 -0400
Subject: Putin Art
In-Reply-To: <1D75806B-DB97-49D5-8EC3-7F2A7AF4CD0A@american.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.2.SEP.2013.180034.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

 

Ø  Russian law is equal to lèse-majesté
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A8se-majest%C3%A9
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%25C3%25A8se-majest%25C3%25A9> )

 

Written without a trace of irony.

 

It appears that various forces are trying to create such a law for the US
President.

 

Meanwhile, it ought to be recalled that in medieval monarchies the
fool/jester (clown?) was immune - he could say what he liked, and was
untouchable.

 

Such immunities were in force even in societies such as the Scottish
Highlands with the clan system at its height.    The Duke of Argyll placed a
bounty on the head of Iain Lom, the Bard of Keppoch, because of all his
“hate poetry”   against Clan Campbell.  Iain Lom turned up at Inveraray
Castle to claim the reward, saying he’d brought his head, and here it was. 

 

Of course, both Iain Lom and the Duke knew very well that the former enjoyed
immunity in such a position.  The Duke welcomed Iain Lom in and showed him
round the castle, where Iain Lom came up with yet more anti-Campbell
propaganda, and all the Duke could do was shake his head.

 

Ø  hence Putin should be compared to a monarch, preferably of Asian variety.


 

Hence the current US administration should be compared, unfavourably, to a
medieval monarchy or to a CXVII Highland chief (pit and gallows). 

 


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From maremorade at HOTMAIL.COM  Mon Sep  2 22:16:17 2013
From: maremorade at HOTMAIL.COM (Yelena Zotova)
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 22:16:17 +0000
Subject: Resources on the language of the Kryashen (or Kerashen) Tatars
In-Reply-To: <SEELANGS%201309021709330748.04DF@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>
Message-ID: <MON.2.SEP.2013.221617.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Brian, are you sure you are not talking about 'kreschen' or 'krescheni' (baptized) Tatars?
Yelena Zotova, UIC

> Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 17:09:33 -0500
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> Subject: SEELANGS Digest - 1 Sep 2013 to 2 Sep 2013 - Special issue (#2013-360)
> To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
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> There are 6 messages totaling 813 lines in this issue.
> 
> Topics in this special issue:
> 
>   1. Resources on the language of the Kryashen (or Kerashen) Tatars (2)
>   2. Putin Art (2)
>   3. Reminder: Call for Contributors, Critical Insights, Russia's Golden Age
>   4. (Putin Art) Russian economy
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> Date:    Sun, 1 Sep 2013 21:12:04 -0400
> From:    Brian Hayden <bkhayden1990 at GMAIL.COM>
> Subject: Resources on the language of the Kryashen (or Kerashen) Tatars
> 
> Dear SEELANGers,
> 
> Does anyone know if anything has been written about the language of the
> Kryashen Tatars, either in Russian or English?
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Brian Hayden
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> Date:    Mon, 2 Sep 2013 03:07:51 -0400
> From:    "Paul B. Gallagher" <paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM>
> Subject: Re: Resources on the language of the Kryashen (or Kerashen) Tatars
> 
> Brian Hayden wrote:
> 
> > Dear SEELANGers,
> >
> > Does anyone know if anything has been written about the language of the
> > Kryashen Tatars, either in Russian or English?
> 
> Very sketchy info here, with three citations at the bottom here; the 
> first one looks best:
> <http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D1%80%D1%8F%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D1%8F%D0%B7%D1%8B%D0%BA>
> or
> <http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Кряшенский_язык>
> 
> Here's the citation:
> Баязитова, Ф. С. Говоры татар-кряшен в сравнительном освещении / Отв. 
> ред. Ф. С. Хакимзянов. — М.: Наука, 1986. — 247 с.
> 
> 
> Very sketchy info here, too, with an image of a Kryashen Tatar text 
> (looks like two facing pages out of a bible):
> <http://vk.com/topic-16327457_28498084>
> 
> 
> And here's a piece more about language policy than about the features of 
> the dialect, but it does have some anecdotal stuff about features:
> <http://www.academia.edu/4237198/On_the_problem_of_Kryashens_Tatars_and_the_General_Census_of_Population_in_Russia>
> 
> 
> This page gives a basic classification within the Turkic language 
> family, but little or nothing about features:
> <http://www.audicarparts.ru/leozavtiof46no-goevto/%D0%9A%D1%80%D1%8F%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D1%8F%D0%B7%D1%8B%D0%BA>
> or
> <http://www.audicarparts.ru/leozavtiof46no-goevto/Кряшенский_язык>
> 
> 
> Hope that helps a little.
> 
> 
> -- 
> War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
> --
> Paul B. Gallagher
> pbg translations, inc.
> "Russian Translations That Read Like Originals"
> http://pbg-translations.com
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> 
> Date:    Mon, 2 Sep 2013 11:00:02 +0100
> From:    John Dunn <John.Dunn at GLASGOW.AC.UK>
> Subject: Re: Putin Art
> 
> It is not entirely inappropriate: in Italy there is the crime of 'vilipendio', i.e. insulting the dignity of the President of the Republic (as well as, inter alia, certain state institutions and religious confessions).  In so far as it relates to the President this law is rarely, if ever, applied, though one argument that I have seen for retaining it is that the Head of State lacks other legal remedies against defamation.
> 
> But I wonder if by concentrating on the Putin/Medvedev painting we are not missing the point.  The police action followed a complaint by Vitalij Milonov, who is one the main initiators of the laws relating to the propaganda of non-traditional sexual orientations and who is likely to have taken as much, if not more offence at the way he was depicted .  Mocking Milonov and his counterpart in the State Duma, Elena Mizulina, has become something of a national sport recently: even Al'fred Kokh, whom some may remember for his role in helping to dismember NTV in 2001, has got himself involved.   This is fine, except that the deputies are fighting back, and there may be further action to come from the various law enforcement agencies.
> 
> John Dunn.   
> ________________________________________
> From: SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures list [SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Alina Israeli [aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU]
> Sent: 01 September 2013 17:55
> To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Putin Art
> 
> Considering the punishment any comparison of Putin with an elected leader elsewhere is inappropriate. The Russian law is equal to lèse-majesté (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A8se-majest%C3%A9<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%25C3%25A8se-majest%25C3%25A9>), which only four out of 10 European monarchies still have on the books, hence Putin should be compared to a monarch, preferably of Asian variety.
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> Date:    Mon, 2 Sep 2013 09:52:26 -0400
> From:    Rachel Stauffer <art2t at EMAIL.VIRGINIA.EDU>
> Subject: Reminder: Call for Contributors, Critical Insights, Russia's Golden Age
> 
> Critical Insights is a multi-volume series that offers original
> introductory criticism on key authors, works, and themes in literature that
> are addressed in core reading lists at the undergraduate level. The quality
> of scholarship and the level of analysis for this series are designed to
> provide the best and most well-rounded overviews of the authors, works, and
> themes covered. Each volume is peer edited by a scholar in the field. The
> result is a collection of authoritative, in-depth scholarship suitable for
> students and teachers alike. All chapters are written as original material
> and include an MLA-styled “Works Cited” section and bibliography.
> Previously published by Salem Press, the series is now being overseen by Grey
> House Publishing <http://www.greyhouse.com/>.
> 
> The editor of a new Critical Insights volume on Russia's Golden Age seeks
> contributors to write one of the following topics (this list has been
> updated since the earlier e-mail announcement on SEELANGS):
> 
> Romanticism, Poetry, and the Superfluous Man
> Alexander Pushkin
> The Natural School and Russian Realism
> Lev Tolstoy
> 19th Century Women Authors
> Music, Art, and Theater
> Anton Chekhov
> 
> Final drafts of chapters of approximately 5,000 words will be due on or
> around October 15th, 2013. Note that the content of this volume is more
> introductory and canonical, rather than concerned with new approaches or
> perspectives.
> 
> The editor is also seeking authors for 3 introductory critical context
> chapters of 5,000 words each. These chapters are broader in their scope,
> and address, respectively, a chapter devoted to comparison and contrast
> (pertaining to Russia's Golden Age either in comparison and contrast with
> other periods of Russian literature or with other periods of literature in
> other regions of the world); a critical reception chapter and a critical
> lens chapter. The latter two chapters offer the opportunity to discuss
> theoretical and political issues relevant to Russian literature in this
> period.
> 
> To be considered as a contributor, please send a short abstract of a
> proposed chapter on one of the above topics and a brief CV via e-mail
> by *September
> 4th, 2013* to Rachel Stauffer at rstauffer at ferrum.edu or
> rachelstauffer at gmail.com
> 
> -- 
> Rachel Stauffer, PhD
> Interim Project Director, UVa-NEH Bridging Cultures at Community Colleges
> Assistant Professor of Russian, Ferrum College
> Conference Manager, AATSEEL
> staufferr at virginia.edu
> (434) 982-0560
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> Date:    Mon, 2 Sep 2013 17:32:35 -0400
> From:    Robert Orr <colkitto at ROGERS.COM>
> Subject: Re: (Putin Art) Russian economy
> 
> Ø  It really pays to know the facts:
> 
>  
> 
> Indeed
> 
>  
> 
> Ø  Russia never was "second economy in the world”
> 
>  
> 
> Not even from the immediate post-war period until the  late(ish) 1970’s?
> 
> In any case, its image as such lingered on far after it ceased to be true. 
> 
>  
> 
> 
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> 
> Date:    Mon, 2 Sep 2013 18:00:34 -0400
> From:    Robert Orr <colkitto at ROGERS.COM>
> Subject: Re: Putin Art
> 
>  
> 
> Ø  Russian law is equal to lèse-majesté
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A8se-majest%C3%A9
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%25C3%25A8se-majest%25C3%25A9> )
> 
>  
> 
> Written without a trace of irony.
> 
>  
> 
> It appears that various forces are trying to create such a law for the US
> President.
> 
>  
> 
> Meanwhile, it ought to be recalled that in medieval monarchies the
> fool/jester (clown?) was immune - he could say what he liked, and was
> untouchable.
> 
>  
> 
> Such immunities were in force even in societies such as the Scottish
> Highlands with the clan system at its height.    The Duke of Argyll placed a
> bounty on the head of Iain Lom, the Bard of Keppoch, because of all his
> “hate poetry”   against Clan Campbell.  Iain Lom turned up at Inveraray
> Castle to claim the reward, saying he’d brought his head, and here it was. 
> 
>  
> 
> Of course, both Iain Lom and the Duke knew very well that the former enjoyed
> immunity in such a position.  The Duke welcomed Iain Lom in and showed him
> round the castle, where Iain Lom came up with yet more anti-Campbell
> propaganda, and all the Duke could do was shake his head.
> 
>  
> 
> Ø  hence Putin should be compared to a monarch, preferably of Asian variety.
> 
> 
>  
> 
> Hence the current US administration should be compared, unfavourably, to a
> medieval monarchy or to a CXVII Highland chief (pit and gallows). 
> 
>  
> 
> 
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From aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU  Mon Sep  2 22:27:19 2013
From: aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU (Alina Israeli)
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 18:27:19 -0400
Subject: (Putin Art) Russian economy
In-Reply-To: <007701cea823$f131af50$d3950df0$@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <MON.2.SEP.2013.182719.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Yes, it was. However, there are several problems with this concept:

1. The whole country was working for the Military-Industrial Complex.  
The word was already coined by Eisenhower, we just did not know it in  
the Soviet Union. Everybody and his brother was working in the so- 
called почтовый ящик. Not the blue box that collects mail,  
but an organization whose name is secret. It helps GDP, no question  
about it.

2. The statistics were collected and delivered by Soviets, and it was  
in their interest to look good. BTW, the honest statistics in the  
Soviet Union were usually classified.

3. The calculation of GDP was obviously done in rubles and converted  
into dollars based on the official exchange rate 1ruble = $ 0.59. The  
black market rate in the 70's was 3 rubles = $1.

At the same time there were shortages, shortages of food and all kinds  
of goods, even in big cities. Provinces suffered a lot more. Empty  
shelves there was a norm. In mid-seventies we were not hungry in  
Leningrad, there was enough food, we just did not know what we were  
going to find in the store, but there was always something. One could  
not plan a meal, certainly not a fancy meal, but one did not go  
hungry. In 1979 the situation in Moscow was already such that American  
embassy was providing one meal a day to all American students in Moscow.


On Sep 2, 2013, at 5:32 PM, Robert Orr wrote:

> Ø  Russia never was "second economy in the world”
>
> Not even from the immediate post-war period until the  late(ish)  
> 1970’s?
> In any case, its image as such lingered on far after it ceased to be  
> true.
>
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WLC, American University
4400 Massachusetts Ave.
Washington DC 20016
(202) 885-2387 	fax (202) 885-1076
aisrael at american.edu






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From sgnillib at GMAIL.COM  Mon Sep  2 22:31:32 2013
From: sgnillib at GMAIL.COM (Loren Billings)
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 06:31:32 +0800
Subject: Resources on the language of the Kryashen (or Kerashen) Tatars
In-Reply-To: <BLU176-W21507CA030EE83E74FD6D0C4300@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <TUE.3.SEP.2013.063132.0800.>

Darya Kavitskaya (recently at Yale Linguistics Dept., now at Berkeley
Slavic) works on Crimean Tatar. Someone might try her.

--Loren Billings <sgnillib at gmail.com>

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From colkitto at ROGERS.COM  Mon Sep  2 22:42:19 2013
From: colkitto at ROGERS.COM (Robert Orr)
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 18:42:19 -0400
Subject: (Putin Art) Russian economy
In-Reply-To: <3AEA7A6B-1B37-4A98-B5D5-15B7DC03F6A9@american.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.2.SEP.2013.184219.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

 

Ø  Provinces suffered a lot more. Empty shelves there was a norm. In mid-seventies we were not hungry 

 

I had a glimpse of that in Minsk in 1977.  I found one of the best seafood shops I’ve seen in my life.  But I simply did not bother shopping for clothes, the less said about the bookstores (the English-language newspaper choice was the Morning Star, the daily World, and the Canadian Tribune) the better, and city ran out of beer at 1100 am on May Day.

 

Imagine my astonishment to hear someone from a small town outside Minsk saying : “so many goods in the shops!”


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From paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM  Mon Sep  2 23:13:34 2013
From: paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM (Paul B. Gallagher)
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 19:13:34 -0400
Subject: Putin Art
In-Reply-To: <008d01cea827$d9f9a2d0$8dece870$@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <MON.2.SEP.2013.191334.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Robert Orr wrote:

> Written without a trace of irony.
>
> It appears that various forces are trying to create such a law for
> the US President.

Name one.

Or else quit lying.

> Hence the current US administration should be compared, unfavourably,
> to a medieval monarchy or to a CXVII Highland chief (pit and
> gallows).

Take your tea-party lunacy elsewhere, you're embarrassing yourself and 
not contributing to the conversation.

-- 
War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
--
Paul B. Gallagher
pbg translations, inc.
"Russian Translations That Read Like Originals"
http://pbg-translations.com

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From ameliede at EARTHLINK.NET  Mon Sep  2 23:36:20 2013
From: ameliede at EARTHLINK.NET (Jules Levin)
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 16:36:20 -0700
Subject: (Putin Art) Russian economy
In-Reply-To: <3AEA7A6B-1B37-4A98-B5D5-15B7DC03F6A9@american.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.2.SEP.2013.163620.0700.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

On 9/2/2013 3:27 PM, Alina Israeli wrote:
> Yes, it was. However, there are several problems with this concept:
>
> 1. The whole country was working for the Military-Industrial Complex. 
> The word was already coined by Eisenhower, we just did not know it in 
> the Soviet Union. Everybody and his brother was working in the 
> so-called почтовый ящик. Not the blue box that collects mail, but an 
> organization whose name is secret. It helps GDP, no question about it.

Back in the 80's there was an American statistician whose name escapes 
me who devised an ingenious method for getting at the truth of Soviet 
production.  He assumed that at least some of the official statistics 
were more or less accurate, and he decided to look at the numbers for 
rolling stock and tonnage shipped.  He assumed that in principle, all 
e.g. steel production had to move away from the factories, and using 
this method he lowered the official figures of steel and other heavy 
industrial production significantly.  He published a book that predicted 
the economic collapse of the Soviet Union.
An emigre I talked to in Los Angeles said he thought there was a steady 
worsening of food production from 1918.  He gave examples of food he 
remembered getting in a provincial restaurant in 1945 (!!) that hadn't 
been on menus for decades, I think he said oysters...  Hard to believe, 
but who knows???  It was a strange country.
Jules Levin




>
> 2. The statistics were collected and delivered by Soviets, and it was 
> in their interest to look good. BTW, the honest statistics in the 
> Soviet Union were usually classified.
>
> 3. The calculation of GDP was obviously done in rubles and converted 
> into dollars based on the official exchange rate 
> <http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%AD%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D0%A1%D0%A1%D0%A1%D0%A0#.D0.92.D0.92.D0.9F> 1ruble 
> = $ 0.59. The black market rate in the 70's was 3 rubles = $1.
>
> At the same time there were shortages, shortages of food and all kinds 
> of goods, even in big cities. Provinces suffered a lot more. Empty 
> shelves there was a norm. In mid-seventies we were not hungry in 
> Leningrad, there was enough food, we just did not know what we were 
> going to find in the store, but there was always something. One could 
> not plan a meal, certainly not a fancy meal, but one did not go 
> hungry. In 1979 the situation in Moscow was already such that American 
> embassy was providing one meal a day to all American students in Moscow.
>
>
> On Sep 2, 2013, at 5:32 PM, Robert Orr wrote:
>
>> Ø Russia never was "second economy in the world”
>> Not even from the immediate post-war period until the  late(ish) 1970’s?
>> In any case, its image as such lingered on far after it ceased to be 
>> true.
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> Alina Israeli
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> WLC, American University
> 4400 Massachusetts Ave.
> Washington DC 20016
> (202) 885-2387 fax (202) 885-1076
> aisrael at american.edu <mailto:aisrael at american.edu>
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From ameliede at EARTHLINK.NET  Mon Sep  2 23:43:35 2013
From: ameliede at EARTHLINK.NET (Jules Levin)
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 16:43:35 -0700
Subject: Putin Art
In-Reply-To: <008d01cea827$d9f9a2d0$8dece870$@rogers.com>
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> Meanwhile, it ought to be recalled that in medieval monarchies the 
> fool/jester (clown?) was immune - he could say what he liked, and was 
> untouchable.
>
That this existed in ancient times is shown by the story of David in the 
Philistine kingdom.  When the king was going to kill him, he escaped 
killing by feigning madness.  The king merely expelled him saying "don't 
I have enough meshuganahs in my kingdom?"
Jules Levin

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From jknox at BOWDOIN.EDU  Mon Sep  2 23:58:26 2013
From: jknox at BOWDOIN.EDU (Jane Knox)
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 23:58:26 +0000
Subject: Putin Art
In-Reply-To: <522522A7.4080209@earthlink.net>
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I have been following the Putin Art discussion with great interest and would like to add the furor that arose in Maine when Governor Le Page removed a mural from a Government Labor Department building in Augusta Maine because he felt that it favored workers and unions and not entrepreneurs..  Here is the most recent link about the history of this public battle of art.

http://www.salon.com/2013/01/14/labor_mural_removed_by_maine_gov_back_on_display_2/

Jane Knox
Bowdoin College
Brunswick, Maine

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> Meanwhile, it ought to be recalled that in medieval monarchies the
> fool/jester (clown?) was immune - he could say what he liked, and was
> untouchable.
>
That this existed in ancient times is shown by the story of David in the
Philistine kingdom.  When the king was going to kill him, he escaped
killing by feigning madness.  The king merely expelled him saying "don't
I have enough meshuganahs in my kingdom?"
Jules Levin

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From aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU  Tue Sep  3 00:46:44 2013
From: aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU (Alina Israeli)
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 20:46:44 -0400
Subject: (Putin Art) Russian economy
In-Reply-To: <522520F4.4060400@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <MON.2.SEP.2013.204644.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

One great book (and a great read!) on the subject was by Игорь  
Ефимов "Без буржуев" (it's on the web) and the other  
one may be G. I. Khanin http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/economics/staff/academic/harrison/public/eas93.pdf


On Sep 2, 2013, at 7:36 PM, Jules Levin wrote:

> On 9/2/2013 3:27 PM, Alina Israeli wrote:
>>
>> Yes, it was. However, there are several problems with this concept:
>>
>> 1. The whole country was working for the Military-Industrial  
>> Complex. The word was already coined by Eisenhower, we just did not  
>> know it in the Soviet Union. Everybody and his brother was working  
>> in the so-called почтовый ящик. Not the blue box that  
>> collects mail, but an organization whose name is secret. It helps  
>> GDP, no question about it.
>
> Back in the 80's there was an American statistician whose name  
> escapes me who devised an ingenious method for getting at the truth  
> of Soviet production.  He assumed that at least some of the official  
> statistics were more or less accurate, and he decided to look at the  
> numbers for rolling stock and tonnage shipped.  He assumed that in  
> principle, all e.g. steel production had to move away from the  
> factories, and using this method he lowered the official figures of  
> steel and other heavy industrial production significantly.  He  
> published a book that predicted the economic collapse of the Soviet  
> Union.
> An emigre I talked to in Los Angeles said he thought there was a  
> steady worsening of food production from 1918.  He gave examples of  
> food he remembered getting in a provincial restaurant in 1945 (!!)  
> that hadn't been on menus for decades, I think he said oysters...   
> Hard to believe, but who knows???  It was a strange country.
> Jules Levin
>
>
>
>

Alina Israeli
Associate Professor of Russian
WLC, American University
4400 Massachusetts Ave.
Washington DC 20016
(202) 885-2387 	fax (202) 885-1076
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From larissa_shmailo at YAHOO.COM  Tue Sep  3 01:10:06 2013
From: larissa_shmailo at YAHOO.COM (larissa shmailo)
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 18:10:06 -0700
Subject: VOR radio interview on Twenty-first Century Russian Poetry
 anthology
Message-ID: <MON.2.SEP.2013.181006.0700.LARISSASHMAILO@YAHOO.COM>

Dear SEELANGers:

Below please find a link to an interview on the Moscow-based radio show Russian Bookworld for Voice of Russia on the subject of contemporary Russian poetry and our new anthology, Twenty-first Century Russian Poetry. The interview is with myself, Larissa Shmailo, editor of the anthology; Marina Boroditskaya, a contributing poet to the anthology; and Philip Nikolayev, who contributed both poetry and translations. The interview was hosted by Konstantin Boulevich.


http://voiceofrussia.com/radio_broadcast/28742746/239869305/

Another interview is planned on VOR this month.

I hope you enjoy our discussion!

Kind regards,
Larissa 


Larissa Shmailo
Scribes Media
www.larissashmailo.com

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From stuart.goldberg at MODLANGS.GATECH.EDU  Tue Sep  3 02:01:32 2013
From: stuart.goldberg at MODLANGS.GATECH.EDU (Goldberg, Stuart H)
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 22:01:32 -0400
Subject: Resources on the language of the Kryashen (or Kerashen) Tatars
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Крәшен (the first vowel is a front vowel like a in cat) is the Tatar word, which comes etymologically, of course, from Russian крещеные. The y in the English form Kryashen comes from the Russified version of the Tatar word--Russian conveys this front vowel through palatalization (кряшен). 

Try: 

Баязитова Флера Саидовна 
Монографии: 
1) «Говоры татар-кряшен в сравнительном освещении». - М., Наука, 1986 г. 
В монографии анализируются фонетические, морфологические особенности говоров крещеных татар, живущих в Татарстане и за ее пределами в сравнении с другими диалектами и говорами, а также с другими тюркскими и финно-угорскими языками. 
2) «Крещеные татары. Язык и обряды, обычаи». - Казань, 1997, 248 стр. 
В монографии описывается язык и духовная культура, термины обрядов и обычаев на фоне огромного иллюстративного материала, записанного по всем говорам крещеных татар. 
Remarkably, the following site appears to allow you to order her dissertation "Этнолингвистические исследования по говорам крещеных татар" or its avtoreferat: http://www.dissercat.com/content/etnolingvisticheskie-issledovaniya-po-govoram-kreshchenykh-tatar. Even on this first page, there is a lot of published literature mentioned. 


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From: "Yelena Zotova" <maremorade at HOTMAIL.COM> 
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 6:16:17 PM 
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Resources on the language of the Kryashen (or Kerashen) Tatars 


Brian, are you sure you are not talking about 'kreschen' or 'krescheni' (baptized) Tatars? 
Yelena Zotova, UIC 


> Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 17:09:33 -0500 
> From: LISTSERV at LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
> Subject: SEELANGS Digest - 1 Sep 2013 to 2 Sep 2013 - Special issue (#2013-360) 
> To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
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> There are 6 messages totaling 813 lines in this issue. 
> 
> Topics in this special issue: 
> 
> 1. Resources on the language of the Kryashen (or Kerashen) Tatars (2) 
> 2. Putin Art (2) 
> 3. Reminder: Call for Contributors, Critical Insights, Russia's Golden Age 
> 4. (Putin Art) Russian economy 
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> Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 21:12:04 -0400 
> From: Brian Hayden <bkhayden1990 at GMAIL.COM> 
> Subject: Resources on the language of the Kryashen (or Kerashen) Tatars 
> 
> Dear SEELANGers, 
> 
> Does anyone know if anything has been written about the language of the 
> Kryashen Tatars, either in Russian or English? 
> 
> Sincerely, 
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> Brian Hayden 
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From kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM  Mon Sep  2 19:15:18 2013
From: kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Robert Chandler)
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 20:15:18 +0100
Subject: a VERY CLEVER 3-minute film about translation!
Message-ID: <MON.2.SEP.2013.201518.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGYL5sUwr2Q&feature=youtu.be




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From frosset at WHEATONMA.EDU  Tue Sep  3 05:39:19 2013
From: frosset at WHEATONMA.EDU (Francoise Rosset)
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 01:39:19 -0400
Subject: Please pass along: semester program in Bhutan (Himalayas)
Message-ID: <TUE.3.SEP.2013.013919.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Dear SEELANzhane colleagues:

Allow me to take advantage of your collective wisdom and contacts, for
something which is not directly related to Slavic studies -- but related to
study abroad.
I'm writing to make you aware of Wheaton's semester program in Bhutan, and
I ask that you pass on this info to any interested students you might know,
or to your colleagues working on Asia, or to sibling departments in Asian
Studies.
My own immediate connection is that I'll be serving as Wheaton resident
director in Bhutan this coming term, spring 2014.

Wheaton is the only U.S. college to have an academic program in Bhutan.
We first went only in the fall, now we also go for the spring semester.
The program is four years old, and we usually take a few students from
other colleges.
Students take four courses, one of which is a practicum or internship in an
area of their choice. They receive full academic credit for their semester,
through Wheaton. The language of instruction, as throughout all of Bhutan,
is English.
RTC (Royal Thimphu College) is our Bhutanese correspondent and host, and
was created several years ago to provide an American/Western style college
venue.
Below are a few useful sites for a general overview.
The deadline for applications for the spring is coming up in mid September.

http://wheatoncollege.edu/global/2010/09/02/royal-thimphu-college/
http://wheatoncollege.edu/quarterly/2013/03/26/beautiful-journey/
http://acadblogs.wheatoncollege.edu/bhutan2013/bhutan-iv/

If you know of anyone, student or faculty, who wants more details, please
have them contact me off-list, soon, at:
frosset at wheatoncollege.edu  OR rosset_francoise at wheatoncollege.edu

Thanks for your consideration,
Happy end of the Labor day week-end (soggy soggy up here! ...)

-FR



-- 
Françoise Rosset
Chair, Russian and Russian Studies
Wheaton College, Norton MA 02766
office:     508-286-3696
FAX #:     508-286-3640
frosset at wheatonma.edu

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From kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM  Tue Sep  3 13:31:44 2013
From: kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Robert Chandler)
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 14:31:44 +0100
Subject: Osip Mandelstam in THE WHITE REVIEW
Message-ID: <TUE.3.SEP.2013.143144.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

SEPTEMBER ONLINE ISSUE OF 'THE WHITE REVIEW' OUT NOW!

"We are excited to announce the launch of September's online issue, featuring an exclusive interview with one of our favourite contemporary European novelists, the great László Krasznahorkai, conducted by poet and translator George Szirtes. The interview is accompanied by an excerpt from Krasznahorkai's forthcoming novel, Seiobo There Below... 
Elsewhere there are translations by Robert Chandler and Boris Dralyuk of poems by Osip Mandelstam."

http://www.thewhitereview.org/poetry/

All the best,

Robert
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From info at MALEVICHSOCIETY.ORG  Tue Sep  3 02:29:22 2013
From: info at MALEVICHSOCIETY.ORG (Malevich Society)
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 22:29:22 -0400
Subject: Malevich Society Second Call for Grant Applications
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Dear Colleagues,

The Malevich Society is pleased to announce its second call for 2013 grant
applications.

The Malevich Society is a not-for-profit organization based in New York
dedicated to advancing knowledge about the Russian artist Kazimir Malevich
and his work.

In the belief that Malevich was a pioneer of modern art who should be
recognized for his key contributions to the history of Modernism, the
Society awards grants to encourage research, writing, and other activities
relating to his history and memory.

The Society welcomes applications from scholars of any nationality, and at
various stages of their career. Graduate students are welcome to apply to
the Society’s grants after completing at least one year of dissertation
research. Proposed projects should increase the understanding of Malevich
and his work, or augment historical, biographical, or artistic information
about Malevich and/or his artistic legacy. The Society also supports
translations and the publication of relevant texts.

Application forms and instructions may be requested by telephone at
1-718-980-1805, by e-mail at info at malevichsociety.org, or may be downloaded
from the web-site: www.malevichsociety.org.

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From aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU  Tue Sep  3 20:47:27 2013
From: aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU (Alina Israeli)
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 16:47:27 -0400
Subject: Russian literature to inmates
Message-ID: <TUE.3.SEP.2013.164727.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

I have read at least twice before and here was a radio broadcast about  
teaching Russian literature to prison inmates http://withgoodreasonradio.org/
It's always Russian literature that is taught to those in jail, and it  
always gives meaning to their lives, somehow.

Maybe Russian lit should be expanded to high school students, before  
they land in jail?


Alina Israeli
Associate Professor of Russian
WLC, American University
4400 Massachusetts Ave.
Washington DC 20016
(202) 885-2387 	fax (202) 885-1076
aisrael at american.edu






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From greniers at GEORGETOWN.EDU  Tue Sep  3 21:02:15 2013
From: greniers at GEORGETOWN.EDU (Svetlana Grenier)
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 17:02:15 -0400
Subject: Russian literature to inmates
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Гениально!:)))


On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Alina Israeli <aisrael at american.edu> wrote:

> I have read at least twice before and here was a radio broadcast about
> teaching Russian literature to prison inmates
> http://withgoodreasonradio.org/
> It's always Russian literature that is taught to those in jail, and it
> always gives meaning to their lives, somehow.
>
> Maybe Russian lit should be expanded to high school students, before they
> land in jail?
>
>
> Alina Israeli
> Associate Professor of Russian
> WLC, American University
> 4400 Massachusetts Ave.
> Washington DC 20016
> (202) 885-2387  fax (202) 885-1076
> aisrael at american.edu
>
>
>
>
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From xrenovo at GMAIL.COM  Tue Sep  3 22:10:06 2013
From: xrenovo at GMAIL.COM (Sasha Spektor)
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 18:10:06 -0400
Subject: Russian literature to inmates
In-Reply-To: <0B5DBFE4-32EC-4797-8B2C-A1F649F656DD@american.edu>
Message-ID: <TUE.3.SEP.2013.181006.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

A self-congratulating statement if there ever was one.  You have it
backwards.  Russian literature is taught to inmates because those who teach
it know it well.  Philosophy professors teach philosophy.  And,
occasionally, inmates find consolation in that as well.  But yeah, Russian
lit should be taught everywhere, cause it sure prevented lots of crime in
Russia.


On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Alina Israeli <aisrael at american.edu> wrote:

> I have read at least twice before and here was a radio broadcast about
> teaching Russian literature to prison inmates
> http://withgoodreasonradio.org/
> It's always Russian literature that is taught to those in jail, and it
> always gives meaning to their lives, somehow.
>
> Maybe Russian lit should be expanded to high school students, before they
> land in jail?
>
>
> Alina Israeli
> Associate Professor of Russian
> WLC, American University
> 4400 Massachusetts Ave.
> Washington DC 20016
> (202) 885-2387  fax (202) 885-1076
> aisrael at american.edu
>
>
>
>
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From klinela at COMCAST.NET  Wed Sep  4 00:47:55 2013
From: klinela at COMCAST.NET (Laura Kline)
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 20:47:55 -0400
Subject: Apartment needed in St. Petersburg
Message-ID: <TUE.3.SEP.2013.204755.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Dear All,

I have an older student (i.e., mature!) who is looking for an apartment in
St. Petersburg for at least 6 months beginning this Sept. 9 or soon
thereafter. He is looking for a small, furnished apartment or studio. If you
have any leads, please reply directly to him off-list at:
<mailto:ebarnett87 at yahoo.com> ebarnett87 at yahoo.com.  His name is Ernest
Barnett.

Thank you in advance for any help.

Best,
Laura 

 

 

 

Laura Kline, Ph.D

Sr. Lecturer in Russian

Dept. of Classical and Modern Languages, 

      Literatures, and Cultures

Wayne State University

487 Manoogian Hall

906 W. Warren

Detroit, MI  48187

 


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From polygraph-sharikov at HOTMAIL.COM  Wed Sep  4 01:15:22 2013
From: polygraph-sharikov at HOTMAIL.COM (Gene Peters)
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 18:15:22 -0700
Subject: Putin Art
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But would anybody here SIMPLY consider what would happen if you put Obama in place of Putin???????  I think Firestorm.  




> Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 23:58:26 +0000
> From: jknox at BOWDOIN.EDU
> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Putin Art
> To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> 
> I have been following the Putin Art discussion with great interest and would like to add the furor that arose in Maine when Governor Le Page removed a mural from a Government Labor Department building in Augusta Maine because he felt that it favored workers and unions and not entrepreneurs..  Here is the most recent link about the history of this public battle of art.
> 
> http://www.salon.com/2013/01/14/labor_mural_removed_by_maine_gov_back_on_display_2/
> 
> Jane Knox
> Bowdoin College
> Brunswick, Maine
> 
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> Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 7:43 PM
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> 
> > Meanwhile, it ought to be recalled that in medieval monarchies the
> > fool/jester (clown?) was immune - he could say what he liked, and was
> > untouchable.
> >
> That this existed in ancient times is shown by the story of David in the
> Philistine kingdom.  When the king was going to kill him, he escaped
> killing by feigning madness.  The king merely expelled him saying "don't
> I have enough meshuganahs in my kingdom?"
> Jules Levin
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From colkitto at ROGERS.COM  Wed Sep  4 02:40:26 2013
From: colkitto at ROGERS.COM (Robert Orr)
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 22:40:26 -0400
Subject: Putin Art
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> But would anybody here SIMPLY consider what would happen if you put Obama
in place of Putin???????  I think Firestorm.  

Actually, we might be better off with a straight swap.  This idea first
occurred to me speculating with friends in Russia (they were shocked to
learn that between 1894 and 2006 the Liberal Party of Canada had been in
power for longer than the CPSU) over MarTIN and PuTIN:  If Putin had moved
into 24 Sussex Dr., and Martin into the Kremlin,

a)      Putin would have acted like Putin in Ottawa, and the result would
have been like a welcome jolt to the system: backbench MP's  would have
rediscovered the role of Parliament, provinces would have reasserted
themselves, etc., etc.

b)      Meanwhile Martin would last a couple of days in the Kremlin and
nobody would care.

With the current moribund state of constitutional checks and balances in the
US, how much more true would the above be of a Putin/Obama swap! The drive
towards a pre-medieval monarchy might even be diverted.

 

 







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From emilka at MAC.COM  Wed Sep  4 03:08:20 2013
From: emilka at MAC.COM (Emily Saunders)
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 20:08:20 -0700
Subject: Putin Art
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Greetings!  

I can't help but find myself expecting Alex Rudd to chime in any minute on the appropriateness of this current topic and contributions to it.  And perhaps I am not be the only one.  At any rate, I went back through previous Alex emails to the last time that discussion was getting a bit inflamed and found this quoted section of the SEELANGS bylaws that might perhaps apply to this situation:

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linguistic comprehension, and has begun to be purely political.  There
are many other discussion lists and similar on-line discussion forums
that exist solely for the discussion of politics, and you should not
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I'd like to propose the notion that the current discussion has gone beyond the boundaries of "aiding linguistic comprehension" and has crossed into the "purely political."  As such it should probably be taken to another forum.

Respectfully,

Emily Saunders

On Sep 3, 2013, at 6:15 PM, Gene Peters wrote:

> But would anybody here SIMPLY consider what would happen if you put Obama in place of Putin???????  I think Firestorm.  
> 
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From aadams at HOLYCROSS.EDU  Wed Sep  4 10:27:45 2013
From: aadams at HOLYCROSS.EDU (Amy Singleton Adams)
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 05:27:45 -0500
Subject: Reader Needed for Akhmatova Event
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The Museum of Russian Icons in Clinton, MA and the Worcester County Poetry Association (WCPA) are looking for a woman who is able to read Akhmatova in Russian and answer questions about the poet on October 17th from 6:00-7:30 p.m.
 
The poems will be chosen from the bi-lingual edition by Stanley Kunitz. Each poem read in Russian will be followed by the English version by Kunitz. (One issue of discussion may well be the problem of translation.) Bob Cronin of the WCPA will read the English translations.
   
Please contact Mr. Cronin directly if you are interested in participating in what promises to be a lovely event at the Museum.

Mr. Bob Cronin: barbnbob3 at netscape.net

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From brianrjohnsonphd at GMAIL.COM  Wed Sep  4 13:22:50 2013
From: brianrjohnsonphd at GMAIL.COM (Brian Johnson)
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 09:22:50 -0400
Subject: Chemistry Programs in Russia?
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Dear SEELANGERS,
I have three students who want to study abroad in Russia, but their
course-heavy chemistry majors make their options very limited.  Does anyone
know of any study abroad programs that have a Russian-language component
and would also allow students to attend chemistry courses at an institution
in Russia or at other Russian-speaking institutions?
Thanking you in advance,
Brian

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From tchastnykh at MAIL.RU  Wed Sep  4 13:56:34 2013
From: tchastnykh at MAIL.RU (=?UTF-8?B?VGNoYXN0bnlraCBWYWxlcnk=?=)
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 17:56:34 +0400
Subject: Chemistry Programs in Russia?
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 Deasr Brian!
Have you heard about Center for International Education of Moscow State University(former Preparatory faculty for foreign citizens of MGU).?We are the oldest institution for  foreigners on the territoy of the former Soviet Union.
We still have  10 months preperatory course for foreign students who want to get a diploma at Russian universities. This course includes Russian language, the language of their major and main subjrcts of future major department in Russian ( for example chemists do organic and non organic chemistry, physics). After 10 month course our students are supposed to study with Russian students.
We can also arrange attending lectures at the Department of chemistry of MGU in the second semester.
Valeriy Chastnykh,
Director of Russian programes of the 
Centrer for International Education of 
Moscow State university.
P.S. Our web site is www.cie.ru


Среда,  4 сентября 2013, 9:22 -04:00 от Brian Johnson <brianrjohnsonphd at GMAIL.COM>:
>Dear SEELANGERS,
>I have three students who want to study abroad in Russia, but their course-heavy chemistry majors make their options very limited.  Does anyone know of any study abroad programs that have a Russian-language component and would also allow students to attend chemistry courses at an institution in Russia or at other Russian-speaking institutions? 
>Thanking you in advance,
>Brian
>
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Частных Валерий

Best regards, 

Tchastnykh Valery


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From tchastnykh at MAIL.RU  Wed Sep  4 14:03:55 2013
From: tchastnykh at MAIL.RU (=?UTF-8?B?VGNoYXN0bnlraCBWYWxlcnk=?=)
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 18:03:55 +0400
Subject: Fwd: Re: [SEELANGS] Chemistry Programs in Russia?
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Тема: Re: [SEELANGS] Chemistry Programs in Russia?

Deasr Brian!
Have you heard about Center for International Education of Moscow State University(former Preparatory faculty for foreign citizens of MGU).?We are the oldest institution for  foreigners on the territoy of the former Soviet Union.
We still have  10 months preperatory course for foreign students who want to get a diploma at Russian universities. This course includes Russian language, the language of their major and main subjrcts of future major department in Russian ( for example chemists do organic and non organic chemistry, physics). After 10 month course our students are supposed to study with Russian students.
We can also arrange attending lectures at the Department of chemistry of MGU in the second semester.
Valeriy Chastnykh,
Director of Russian programes of the 
Centrer for International Education of 
Moscow State university.
P.S. Our web site is  www.cie.ru


Среда,  4 сентября 2013, 9:22 -04:00 от Brian Johnson <brianrjohnsonphd at GMAIL.COM>:
>Dear SEELANGERS,
>I have three students who want to study abroad in Russia, but their course-heavy chemistry majors make their options very limited.  Does anyone know of any study abroad programs that have a Russian-language component and would also allow students to attend chemistry courses at an institution in Russia or at other Russian-speaking institutions? 
>Thanking you in advance,
>Brian
>
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Best regards, 

Tchastnykh Valery
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From newsnet at PITT.EDU  Wed Sep  4 14:17:41 2013
From: newsnet at PITT.EDU (ASEEES NewsNet)
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 10:17:41 -0400
Subject: Chemistry Programs in Russia?
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George Washington University has/had a Summer Science and Language Program at Moscow State University.  The focus is on biochemistry and medical sciences, but there might be some course offerings of interest to your student.  www.gwumc.edu/microbiology<http://www.gwumc.edu/microbiology>.  Jeffrey J. Sich is the contact.
Mary Arnstein

Association for Slavic, East European, and Eurasian Studies
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From: SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures list [mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Brian Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 9:23 AM
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Subject: [SEELANGS] Chemistry Programs in Russia?

Dear SEELANGERS,
I have three students who want to study abroad in Russia, but their course-heavy chemistry majors make their options very limited.  Does anyone know of any study abroad programs that have a Russian-language component and would also allow students to attend chemistry courses at an institution in Russia or at other Russian-speaking institutions?
Thanking you in advance,
Brian

--
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Assistant Professor of Russian Language and Literature
Swarthmore College
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From anthony.j.vanchu at NASA.GOV  Wed Sep  4 15:14:07 2013
From: anthony.j.vanchu at NASA.GOV (Vanchu, Anthony J. (JSC-AH)[TECHTRANS INTERNATIONAL, INC.])
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 15:14:07 +0000
Subject: Putin Art
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I couldn't agree with you more!

Tony Vanchu


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Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 10:08 PM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Putin Art

Greetings!  

I can't help but find myself expecting Alex Rudd to chime in any minute on the appropriateness of this current topic and contributions to it.  And perhaps I am not be the only one.  At any rate, I went back through previous Alex emails to the last time that discussion was getting a bit inflamed and found this quoted section of the SEELANGS bylaws that might perhaps apply to this situation:

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For purposes of clarification, please note that the discussion of discrete political matters is not welcome on SEELANGS.  However, as political and other concerns have influenced Slavic Languages and Literatures, if posting on such a theme, use common sense and recognize when your contribution has ceased to be about aiding linguistic comprehension, and has begun to be purely political.  There are many other discussion lists and similar on-line discussion forums that exist solely for the discussion of politics, and you should not confuse SEELANGS with them.

***

I'd like to propose the notion that the current discussion has gone beyond the boundaries of "aiding linguistic comprehension" and has crossed into the "purely political."  As such it should probably be taken to another forum.

Respectfully,

Emily Saunders

On Sep 3, 2013, at 6:15 PM, Gene Peters wrote:

> But would anybody here SIMPLY consider what would happen if you put Obama in place of Putin???????  I think Firestorm.  
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From bliss.mst at GMAIL.COM  Wed Sep  4 16:24:48 2013
From: bliss.mst at GMAIL.COM (Liv Bliss)
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 11:24:48 -0500
Subject: a VERY CLEVER 3-minute film about translation!
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I cringed, then I smiled. It's usually the other way round.

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From bigjim at U.WASHINGTON.EDU  Wed Sep  4 17:47:04 2013
From: bigjim at U.WASHINGTON.EDU (bigjim at U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 10:47:04 -0700
Subject: Putin Art
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I agree as well. As long as it was humorous it was fine, but now it is beginning to sound like a discussion in the House of Representatives!
-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-
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On Wed, 4 Sep 2013, Vanchu, Anthony J. (JSC-AH)[TECHTRANS INTERNATIONAL, INC.] wrote:

|I couldn't agree with you more!
|
|Tony Vanchu
|
|
|-----Original Message-----
|From: SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures list [mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Emily Saunders
|Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 10:08 PM
|To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
|Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Putin Art
|
|Greetings!  
|
|I can't help but find myself expecting Alex Rudd to chime in any minute on the appropriateness of this current topic and contributions to it.  And perhaps I am not be the only one.  At any rate, I went back through previous Alex emails to the last time that discussion was getting a bit inflamed and found this quoted section of the SEELANGS bylaws that might perhaps apply to this situation:
|
|***
|For purposes of clarification, please note that the discussion of discrete political matters is not welcome on SEELANGS.  However, as political and other concerns have influenced Slavic Languages and Literatures, if posting on such a theme, use common sense and recognize when your contribution has ceased to be about aiding linguistic comprehension, and has begun to be purely political.  There are many other discussion lists and similar on-line discussion forums that exist solely for the discussion of politics, and you should not confuse SEELANGS with them.
|
|***
|
|I'd like to propose the notion that the current discussion has gone beyond the boundaries of "aiding linguistic comprehension" and has crossed into the "purely political."  As such it should probably be taken to another forum.
|
|Respectfully,
|
|Emily Saunders
|
|On Sep 3, 2013, at 6:15 PM, Gene Peters wrote:
|
|> But would anybody here SIMPLY consider what would happen if you put Obama in place of Putin???????  I think Firestorm.  
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> 
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From anna.pleshakova at AREA.OX.AC.UK  Thu Sep  5 11:49:16 2013
From: anna.pleshakova at AREA.OX.AC.UK (Anna Pleshakova)
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 11:49:16 +0000
Subject: Languages,
 Media and Politics: Cognitive Linguistic Methods in Discourse
 Analysis  Two-Day Interdisciplinary Workshop, 27-28 September 2013
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Languages, Media and Politics: Cognitive Linguistic Methods in Discourse Analysis 
Two-Day Interdisciplinary Workshop, 27-28 September 2013 
Russian and East European Studies, School of Interdisciplinary Area Studies, University of Oxford
Organiser: Dr. Anna Pleshakova
Co-organiser: Ariadna Tsenina, DPhil Candidate, Politics, DTC, Oxford
The workshop will focus on the application of innovative linguistic methods (qualitative and quantitative: cognitive, computational and corpus) to media and political discourse analysis. The aim is to develop the research methods skills of research students and early-career scholars at Oxford and other CEELBAS universities (www.ceelbas.ac.uk), particularly those who are using discourse analysis for interdisciplinary research, both within the social sciences or the humanities and crossing the boundaries between the social sciences and the humanities. 
Although this workshop is primarily aimed at Russian and East European Area Studies researchers, it will also benefit students from other social sciences and humanities programmes. The research methods introduced and discussed during the workshop will form a valuable part of the research skills 'tool kit' of every researcher engaged in discourse analysis and can easily be transferred and applied to work with discourses in any language area.
Talks followed by Q&A sessions will be given by world-renowned specialists in the fields of media and political discourse analysis, cognitive science, cognitive linguistics, corpus linguistics, and computational linguistics, including: Professor Paul Chilton (Lancaster University), Professor Mark Turner (Case Western Reserve University, USA), Professor Seana Coulson (University of California San Diego, USA), Dr. Christopher Hart (Northumbria University), Dr. Gabriella Rundblad (King's College London) and Dr. Steven Clancy (Harvard University). Workshop participants will be given practical discourse analysis tasks (in English as well as in Russian and other East European and Slavonic languages) using the approaches and methods introduced by the workshop speakers. To conclude the workshop, a ‘round table’ discussion will take place, with all workshop participants contributing to a general discussion on the utility of cognitive, corpus and computational linguistic methods for discourse analysis in interdisciplinary research.
The workshop is open to all, but priority will be given to Oxford Social Sciences DTC students and research students from CEELBAS universities (Bath, Birmingham, Cambridge, Kent, Manchester, Oxford, Sheffield, Warwick, SOAS and UCL). To register, please contact Ms Polly Bunce polly.bunce at area.ox.ac.uk 
There is no registration fee. Coffee and sandwich lunches will be provided. There will be a ‘wine and light dinner’ reception on the Friday night (27th September) for all workshop participants. A limited number of bursaries are available for doctoral students from CEELBAS partner universities (from outside Oxford) to cover travel expenses and one-night accommodation at Oxford. If you would like to be considered for financial support, please contact Ms Polly Bunce (polly.bunce at area.ox.ac.uk) enclosing a short note confirming (i) why the workshop is relevant to your research and (ii) why your attendance could not be supported through other means of funding (e.g. institutional research travel grant or other support).
The workshop is sponsored by the AHRC- and British Academy-funded Centre for East European Language-Based Area Studies (CEELBAS: www.ceelbas.ac.uk) and the ESRC-funded Doctoral Training Centre at Oxford (http://www.dtc.ox.ac.uk/) and is supported by the UK Cognitive Linguistics Association (http://www.uk-cla.org.uk/). 

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From naomi.j.olson at GMAIL.COM  Thu Sep  5 15:45:57 2013
From: naomi.j.olson at GMAIL.COM (Naomi Olson)
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 09:45:57 -0600
Subject: Russian literature to inmates
Message-ID: <THU.5.SEP.2013.094557.0600.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Dear SEELANGers,

Together with community partners, graduate students in the Slavic
Department of the University of Wisconsin-Madison have been involved in
outreach projects to make the study of Russian literature, culture, and
language accessible to both high school students and prison inmates.

UW Slavic grads have been leading courses at Oakhill Correctional
Institution (a minimum security men’s prison in Oregon, Wisconsin) since
2009. We have partnered with UW graduate students from several different
fields in the Humanities, and currently offer five courses held weekly at
the prison: Poetry Composition, Memoir and Fiction Writing,
African-American Literature, Russian Literature, and World Literature. Most
of us would agree that reading and discussing Russian literature creates a
space for our participants to interact on a human level (something that is
markedly absent from the mundane routine of prison life), but it would be
difficult to make specific claims about Russian literature. As the founder
of the Russian literature course at Oakhill prison, I was first inspired by
a This American Life radio program about the study, rehearsal, and
production of Shakespeare’s Hamlet in a maximum-security prison (find it
here: http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/218/act-v ). I
was confident that Pushkin’s works could resonate just as well as
Shakespeare’s, and indeed, they did not disappoint. Great works of art, no
matter where they come from, give meaning to all of our lives.

 I think most of us would agree that expanded offerings of Russian
literature courses throughout high schools in the United States would be a
good thing. For many of the individuals who end up in the prison system,
however, high school is a negative and often violent place. Educational
programming in prison has been shown to reduce recidivism, but, as Alina’s
tongue-in-cheek suggestion pointed out, young people need access,
opportunity, and education in the formative periods of their lives.

 To learn more about our efforts to expand the study of Russian culture to
traditionally under-represented groups at the precollege level, please see
our page on the Pushkin Summer Institute:
http://slavic.lss.wisc.edu/new_web/?q=node/115

 To learn more about our partners and our educational programming at the
prison, see the Writers In Prisons project:
http://www.writersinprisonsproject.org/

 For any questions about the humanities educational programming at Oakhill,
please contact me at naomi.j.olson at gmail.com. For specific questions about
the Russian literature class, please contact Zachary Rewinski at
zachary.rewinski at gmail.com.


All the best,

Naomi Olson

Oakhill Prison Educational Programming Coordinator

Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures

University of Wisconsin-Madison

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From pyz at BRAMA.COM  Thu Sep  5 20:48:27 2013
From: pyz at BRAMA.COM (Max Pyziur)
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 16:48:27 -0400
Subject: LRB Review of Robert Chandler's work
Message-ID: <THU.5.SEP.2013.164827.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Greetings,

Russian Magic Tales from Pushkin to Platonov edited by Robert Chandler is 
reviewed in the latest edition of The London Review of Books

The Unlucky Skeleton by Greg Afinogenov
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v35/n17/greg-afinogenov/the-unlucky-skeleton

For those seeking to read the online review, it's behind a paywall. But 
an annual subscription to the LRB is worth every incremental unit of your 
respective currency.

fyi,

Max Pyziur
pyz at brama.com

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From juliaver at SAS.UPENN.EDU  Fri Sep  6 02:36:56 2013
From: juliaver at SAS.UPENN.EDU (Julia Verkholantsev)
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 22:36:56 -0400
Subject: 2013 ESSA book prize -- 2nd Call for Nominations
Message-ID: <THU.5.SEP.2013.223656.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Second Call for Nominations!

The Early Slavic Studies Association is seeking nominations for its 2013 book
prize. This year, the committee will consider monographs in areas OUTSIDE Early
Slavic Studies that contribute significantly to our field by integrating its
research and revealing important connections between pre-modern Slavic
civilization and the area of their focus (e.g. non-Slavic societies, modern
culture, folklore, etc.). The monograph must be original research that has been
published in English in the last three years.

Please pass this message on to other colleagues and send your nominations or
self-nominations to Julia Verkholantsev at juliaver at sas.upenn.edu. The deadline
for submissions is September 15, 2013.

Julia Verkholantsev
ESSA Prize Committee, Chair

-- 
Julia Verkholantsev
Associate Professor of Slavic Languages and Literatures
University of Pennsylvania
745 Williams Hall
255 South 36th Street
Philadelphia, PA 19104-6305

http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/slavic/faculty/verkholantsev.htm

Tel: 215-898-8649
Fax: 215-573-7794

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From kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM  Fri Sep  6 07:25:31 2013
From: kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Robert Chandler)
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 08:25:31 +0100
Subject: LRB Review of Robert Chandler's work
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LRH.2.03.1309051645180.26374@brama.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.6.SEP.2013.082531.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Thank you, Max, for this!  But since the reviewer does not name the other contributors to this book, I shall take the opportunity to do so myself.  Sibelan Forrester has contributed, as an Afterword, a brilliant essay about Baba Yaga; she has also translated two tales collected by Ivan Khudyakov.  Anna Gunin has translated four skazy by Pavel Bazhov.  And Olga Meerson and Elizabeth Chandler are co-translators of the six skazki by Andrey Platonov that make up the last and longest section of our anthology.

All the best,

Robert

> Greetings,
> 
> Russian Magic Tales from Pushkin to Platonov edited by Robert Chandler is reviewed in the latest edition of The London Review of Books
> 
> The Unlucky Skeleton by Greg Afinogenov
> http://www.lrb.co.uk/v35/n17/greg-afinogenov/the-unlucky-skeleton
> 
> For those seeking to read the online review, it's behind a paywall. But an annual subscription to the LRB is worth every incremental unit of your respective currency.
> 
> fyi,
> 
> Max Pyziur
> pyz at brama.com


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From rifkin at TCNJ.EDU  Fri Sep  6 15:09:30 2013
From: rifkin at TCNJ.EDU (Benjamin Rifkin)
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 11:09:30 -0400
Subject: A viral video with the Russian Army Chorus
Message-ID: <FRI.6.SEP.2013.110930.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Dear SEELANGers:

One of my students found this gem, Russian Army Chorus rendition of Skyfall:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crHBzIYRjdY

Best wishes,

Ben Rifkin
The College of New Jersey

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From dolack_thomas at WHEATONCOLLEGE.EDU  Fri Sep  6 15:53:39 2013
From: dolack_thomas at WHEATONCOLLEGE.EDU (Tom Dolack)
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 11:53:39 -0400
Subject: Mir Russkikh Audio
Message-ID: <FRI.6.SEP.2013.115339.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Dorogie kollegi,

I'm using Mir russkikh with my advanced students this semester and I 
only have the audio on cassette. This does me very little good (I might 
as well have them on 8-track or wax cylinders). So I will appeal once 
again to the collective wisdom of the group. Is there anyone who has 
access to the digital files and can assist me? Any help will be greatly 
appreciated, if not monetarily, then at least karmically.

Spasibo!

Tom

________
Tom Dolack
Russian & Russian Studies
Wheaton College
Norton, MA

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From jwilson at SRAS.ORG  Fri Sep  6 16:51:05 2013
From: jwilson at SRAS.ORG (Josh Wilson)
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 20:51:05 +0400
Subject: Mir Russkikh Audio
In-Reply-To: <5229FA83.6070905@wheatoncollege.edu>
Message-ID: <FRI.6.SEP.2013.205105.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Tom, 

If nothing else, check with your campus computer lab - somewhere on campus
is probably the technology that can record your cassettes to MP3 files. 

The process is actually not incredibly difficult:
http://howto.cnet.com/8301-11310_39-57428408-285/how-to-turn-a-cassette-tape
-into-mp3s/

Best, 

Josh Wilson
Assistant Director
The School of Russian and Asian Studies
Editor in Chief
Vestnik, The Journal of Russian and Asian Studies
SRAS.org 
jwilson at sras.org


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Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 7:54 PM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [SEELANGS] Mir Russkikh Audio

Dorogie kollegi,

I'm using Mir russkikh with my advanced students this semester and I only
have the audio on cassette. This does me very little good (I might as well
have them on 8-track or wax cylinders). So I will appeal once again to the
collective wisdom of the group. Is there anyone who has access to the
digital files and can assist me? Any help will be greatly appreciated, if
not monetarily, then at least karmically.

Spasibo!

Tom

________
Tom Dolack
Russian & Russian Studies
Wheaton College
Norton, MA

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From Edythe.Haber at UMB.EDU  Thu Sep  5 21:33:38 2013
From: Edythe.Haber at UMB.EDU (Edythe Haber)
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 21:33:38 +0000
Subject: Who is Fibinshtein?
Message-ID: <THU.5.SEP.2013.213338.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

In an undated letter from Teffi to Anastasia Chebotarevskaia from Essentuki (where T. spent part of the summer in both 1916 and 1917), she writes:  "No byl svetlyi moment:  izvestie ob areste Mit'ki Fibinshteina i vsekh aggelov ego.  Uverena vpolne, chto on vykrutitsia no vse-taki sladok moment moral'nogo udovletvoreniia."

I haven't been able to find out who Fibinshteina is.  Can anyone help?

Thanks,
Edie Haber

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From oprokop at TEMPLE.EDU  Fri Sep  6 17:41:26 2013
From: oprokop at TEMPLE.EDU (Olia Prokopenko)
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 13:41:26 -0400
Subject: A viral video with the Russian Army Chorus
In-Reply-To: <F65106EF-1535-45A2-858E-37F6A4DA15C9@tcnj.edu>
Message-ID: <FRI.6.SEP.2013.134126.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Fun!
Thanks, Ben!


On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Benjamin Rifkin <rifkin at tcnj.edu> wrote:

> Dear SEELANGers:
>
> One of my students found this gem, Russian Army Chorus rendition of
> Skyfall:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crHBzIYRjdY
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ben Rifkin
> The College of New Jersey
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-- 

Olia Prokopenko,
Instructor, Russian Program Coordinator and Adviser

Anderson Hall 551
FGIS, Temple University,
1114 W.Berks St.
Philadelphia, PA 19122
tel. (215)-204-1768
oprokop at temple.edu

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From maksympopelyshrosochynsky2013 at U.NORTHWESTERN.EDU  Fri Sep  6 18:03:11 2013
From: maksympopelyshrosochynsky2013 at U.NORTHWESTERN.EDU (Max Rosochynsky)
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 13:03:11 -0500
Subject: Who is Fibinshtein?
In-Reply-To: <ab33df9f4a6f44c2b9d35f0591a9d27e@BLUPR01MB035.prod.exchangelabs.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.6.SEP.2013.130311.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Teffi probably refers to Митька *Р*убинштейн -- "известный
петербургский банкир,
аферист, масон"...

"Летом 1916 года был арестован военным властями по обвинению в
государственной измене -- сотрудничестве с немцами. Поводом для этого стали
его сомнительные финансовые операции по учёту векселей Немецкого банка в
Берлине"...
Rubinshtein spent five months in prison and then he was released due to
lack of evidence.
Here is a wiki entry with more info
<http://traditio-ru.org/wiki/%D0%94%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%9B%D0%B5%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87_%D0%A0%D1%83%D0%B1%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%88%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%B9%D0%BD>about
who Rubinshtein was.

I hope this helps!

Best wishes,

Max



On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Edythe Haber <Edythe.Haber at umb.edu> wrote:

>  In an undated letter from Teffi to Anastasia Chebotarevskaia from
> Essentuki (where T. spent part of the summer in both 1916 and 1917), she
> writes:  "No byl svetlyi moment:  izvestie ob areste Mit'ki Fibinshteina i
> vsekh aggelov ego.  Uverena vpolne, chto on vykrutitsia no vse-taki sladok
> moment moral'nogo udovletvoreniia."
>
> I haven't been able to find out who Fibinshteina is.  Can anyone help?
>
> Thanks,
> Edie Haber
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From cstroop at GMAIL.COM  Fri Sep  6 18:22:26 2013
From: cstroop at GMAIL.COM (Chris Stroop)
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 22:22:26 +0400
Subject: Alexander Agadjanian looking for native English speaking editor
Message-ID: <FRI.6.SEP.2013.222226.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Dear Colleagues,

I pass on the following message on behalf of Alexander Agadjanian of the
Russian State Humanities University. Please reply directly to him and let
him know what your rates are. Thank you.

Best,

Chris

*English editor needed!*

**

*A book on contemporary developments in Armenian religiosity worldwide,
written by anthropologists, sociologists and historians, need to be edited
in terms of good English, as some of the chapters' authors are non-native
speakers. The book was contracted by Ashgate Publishing House and will
appear in 2014. We seek people experienced in this kind of editing of
academic texts. *

**

*Please write directly to Alexander Agadjanian, the editor and co-author of
the volume, at: **alex.agadjanian at asu.edu*



thanks much

Alex



Christopher Stroop
PhD, History and Humanities, Stanford University
Senior Lecturer, RANEPA, Moscow
Editor, *State, Religion and Church in Russia and Worldwide*
www.sacramentalities.org <http://www.SacraMentalities.org>

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From ZitaD at AOL.COM  Fri Sep  6 20:12:36 2013
From: ZitaD at AOL.COM (Zita Dabars)
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 16:12:36 -0400
Subject: Mir Russkikh Audio
Message-ID: <FRI.6.SEP.2013.161236.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

To: Teachers Interested in Auxiliary Materials for Mir russkikh
From: Zita Dabars
Date: September 7, 2013

In response to the inquiry about auxiliary materials for Mir russkikh the 
information that follows should be helpful. The textbook and exercise 
information comes first, followed by online resources that are available as a free 
download from the American Council of Teachers of Russian.

INTERMEDIATE TO ADVANCED Textbook “Mir russkikh” (0-7872-2471-5) and “
Exercise Book for Mir russkikh” (0-7872-2733-1) are available from Kendall/Hunt 
Publishing Company, Telephone 1-800-228-081, http://www.kendallhunt.com/actr
, e-mail   tbower at kendallhunt.com

*Audio for the textbook and   Audio Guide-Suggested Use of Mir russkikh 
audio files are available free as download from the American Council of 
Teachers of Russian (ACTR) Web address http://textbooks.americancouncils.org. For 
login and password information contact tbower at kendallhunt.com. Likewise, from 
the same source an Answer Key to Mir russkikh and an Answer Key to the 
Exercise Book can be obtained.

*A 100-minute Video/DVD program “Russian Themes” with a 192-page Video 
Resource Manual is available from Basil Products: Zita Dabars, telephone and 
fax 1-410-821-1994, Basil Products, http://basilproducts.com.

If I can be of any further assistance, please contact me at Zitad at aol.com 
or (410) 821-1994.



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From art2t at EMAIL.VIRGINIA.EDU  Sat Sep  7 14:53:26 2013
From: art2t at EMAIL.VIRGINIA.EDU (Rachel Stauffer)
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 10:53:26 -0400
Subject: Deadline Extended: Call for Contributors, Russia's Golden Age
Message-ID: <SAT.7.SEP.2013.105326.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Critical Insights is a multi-volume series that offers original
introductory criticism on key authors, works, and themes in literature that
are addressed in core reading lists at the undergraduate level. The quality
of scholarship and the level of analysis for this series are designed to
provide the best and most well-rounded overviews of the authors, works, and
themes covered. Each volume is peer edited by a scholar in the field. The
result is a collection of authoritative, in-depth scholarship suitable for
students and teachers alike. All chapters are written as original material
and include an MLA-styled “Works Cited” section and bibliography.
Previously published by Salem Press, the series is now being overseen by Grey
House Publishing <http://www.greyhouse.com/>.

The editor of a new Critical Insights volume on Russia's Golden Age seeks
contributors to write one of the following topics (updated since last
posting):

*Alexander Pushkin*
*The Natural School and Russian Realism*

The editor also seeks contributors for chapters dealing with the broader
context and reception of Russian literature in the Golden Age. These three
chapters will address, respectively:

-*Comparison/contrast* (concerning the literary tradition of another region
or nation in comparison/contrast with that of Russia's Golden Age and/or
concerning the Golden Age in comparison/contrast with earlier or later
periods of Russian literature and artistic development)

-*Critical reception* (how has Russian literature of the Golden Age been
received in its time and beyond?)

-*Critical lens* (what are the major critical and theoretical constructs of
Russia's Golden Age and/or the 19th century more broadly?)

Final drafts of chapters of approximately 5,000 words will be due on or
around October 15th, 2013 (this deadline has some flexibility). Note that
the content of this volume is more introductory and canonical, due to its
projected readership, rather than concerned with new approaches or
perspectives.

*Contributors will be compensated.*

To be considered as a contributor, please send a short abstract (100-200
words) of a proposed chapter on one of the above topics and a brief CV via
e-mail by *September 13th, 2013* to Rachel Stauffer at rstauffer at ferrum.edu
 or rachelstauffer at gmail.com

-- 
Rachel Stauffer, PhD
Interim Project Director, UVa-NEH Bridging Cultures at Community Colleges
Assistant Professor of Russian, Ferrum College
Conference Manager, AATSEEL
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From lilya at ILLINOIS.EDU  Sun Sep  8 16:27:15 2013
From: lilya at ILLINOIS.EDU (Kaganovsky, Lilya)
Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 16:27:15 +0000
Subject: Apartment in Moscow available starting January 1, 2014
Message-ID: <SUN.8.SEP.2013.162715.0000.LKAGANOVSKY@GMAIL.COM>

Dear colleagues,

Our two-room apartment in Moscow on Leninskii Prospect will be available for long and short term rent starting on January 1, 2014. 

Please see all the details at http://www.sabbaticalhomes.com, under 'Moscow' or listing number 67834 

If you are interested or would like more information, please contact me off-line: lkaganovsky at gmail.com

Sincerely, 

Lilya Kaganovsky




–––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––

Lilya Kaganovsky

Associate Professor and Director of the Program in Comparative & World Literature
LAS Centennial Scholar

3092D Foreign Languages Building, MC-160	
707 S. Mathews Ave
Urbana, IL 61801 USA

Department homepage: http://www.complit.illinois.edu/

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From alexander.burry at GMAIL.COM  Sun Sep  8 23:38:57 2013
From: alexander.burry at GMAIL.COM (Alexander Burry)
Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 18:38:57 -0500
Subject: Ohio State University Slavic Ph.D. Program Accepting Applications
Message-ID: <SUN.8.SEP.2013.183857.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

The Department of Slavic and East European Languages and Cultures at The Ohio State University welcomes applicants to our M.A./Ph.D. programs in Slavic Literature, Film, and Cultural Studies and Slavic Linguistics to begin in Autumn 2014. The Department prefers to admit students who have had at least three, and preferably more, years of Russian language, as well as related coursework. (Applicants who have had fewer than three years of Russian but who have intensive knowledge of other Slavic languages may also be considered; please contact the Graduate Studies Chair for further information.)

Prospective students applying to study literature, film, and cultural studies should have a background in this area equivalent to an undergraduate major or minor. Likewise, prospective students applying to study linguistics should have the equivalent of an undergraduate major or minor in linguistics. Candidates for admission should give evidence of academic excellence and intellectual promise, as measured by criteria such as undergraduate grades, scores on the Graduate Record Examination (GRE), evaluations in letters of recommendation, and the quality of the writing sample. We are particularly concerned with the candidate's undergraduate performance in Russian and/or other Slavic languages and in related subjects.

At Ohio State the faculty place strong emphasis on mentoring graduate students in their research, teaching, and professionalization. In addition to completing a set of basic requirements, students are also given the flexibility to develop their own specialized scholarly interests. They are provided with generous financial support, extensive teacher training, and many resources for professional development. Ph.D. graduates of the program over the past two decades are currently employed in tenure-track or lecturer positions at such institutions as Brigham Young University, Brown University, Dickinson College, Florida State University, Grinnell College, Indiana University, Middlebury College, Union College, University of Hawaii, University of Montana, University of New Mexico, University of Pennsylvania, University of Pittsburgh, University of Toronto, University of Washington, University of Winnipeg, University of Wisconsin, and Washington & Jefferson College. Branching out into ever more diverse fields, other graduates have chosen careers in editing, government, and translating for the European Union.

The Department's graduate course offerings appeal to a broad range of intellectual interests. For the Slavic Linguistics specialization, we currently offer courses and faculty expertise in Structure and History of the Slavic languages; South Slavic, West Slavic, and Balkan Linguistics; Old Church Slavonic, Palaeography, and Medieval Slavic Texts; Morphology; Pragmatics; Second Language Acquisition; Psycholinguistics; Bilingualism; and other courses. For the Slavic Literature, Film, and Cultural Studies specialization, we currently offer courses and faculty expertise on classical, modernist, Soviet, émigré, and postmodern Russian and East Central European literatures; literature, film, and interdisciplinary cultural studies; transpositions of literature into other media; gender and feminist studies; national identity; and other courses. We particularly encourage the pursuit of interdisciplinary studies within and outside the Slavic Department. Graduate students are welcome to take advantage of course offerings and faculty specialists in such departments as Anthropology, English, History of Art, Linguistics, and Political Studies, and incorporate a variety of fields and approaches into their research.

The primary degree granted by the Department is the Ph.D. The Department does not normally admit students who want to pursue a terminal M.A. (i.e. students whose academic goals do not include a Ph.D.). Those interested in an interdisciplinary terminal M.A. in Slavic Studies should consider applying to the master’s program at Ohio State’s Center for Slavic and East European Studies, which draws on faculty from across the university to prepare students for East European-related careers in government, the military, and the private sector. See http://slaviccenter.osu.edu/index.html.

To learn more about the Department and how to apply see http://slavic.osu.edu/. Other inquiries should be addressed to Alexander Burry, Graduate Studies Chair, at burry.7 at osu.edu. Applications from international students must be received by November 30 to be considered for funding, and by December 13 from domestic students. 

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From ab at RANOK.COM.UA  Mon Sep  9 12:46:58 2013
From: ab at RANOK.COM.UA (Anton Burkun)
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 15:46:58 +0300
Subject: Applications with voiced books in Russian for learning
 language
In-Reply-To: <521CBC29.20001@ranok.com.ua>
Message-ID: <MON.9.SEP.2013.154658.0300.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Добрый день!

Побеспокою сообщество еще раз. Кто-нибудь попробовал скачать установить 
эти приложения? Может у кого-то появились мнения по целесообразности 
использования таких приложений в учебном процессе?

С уважением,
Буркун Антон
Издательство "Ранок"
+38 066 757 70 27


27.08.13, 17:48, Anton Burkun пишет:

> My letter is for Russian language tutors and students.
>
> My name is Anton Burkun, i’m a sales manager at RANOK Publishing House.
> For more than 10 years we have been successfully publishing printed
> books for children from 3 to 10 years old.
>
> Now we have decided to start a new direction in our business and develop
> applications for iPhone and iPad. Using our experience we have created
> apps “Mir Skazok” (The World of Fairytales) and “Stihi Detyam” (Poetry
> for Children). Our apps contain high-quality images, printed text and
> are voiced by professional actors. They are in the Russian language, so
> we hope they may be useful for your students learning Russian (they can
> improve their reading and listening skills).
>
> Would you kindly consider a possibility to suggest your students using
> our apps in their study and testing them for us. We would be grateful
> for your and your students valuable opinion in any case (even if it is
> negative).
>
> Thank you for your time and attention!
>
> Please find below the links to our applications:
> * http://itunes.apple.com/ru/app/mir-skazok-lucsie-skazki-dla/id556544533
> *
> http://itunes.apple.com/ru/app/stihi-dla-detej-skazki-cukovskogo/id675097117
>
>

-- 
Anton Burkun
+38 066 757 70 27

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From cmcquill at UIC.EDU  Mon Sep  9 17:07:05 2013
From: cmcquill at UIC.EDU (Colleen McQuillen)
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:07:05 -0500
Subject: UIC Welcomes Marina Mogilner
Message-ID: <MON.9.SEP.2013.120705.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Dear Colleagues,

It gives me great pleasure to welcome Marina Mogilner as the first Edward
and Marianna Thaden Chair in Russian and East European Intellectual History
at the University of Illinois at Chicago. She is the author of numerous
articles and books, the second of which, Homo Imperii: A History of
Physical Anthropology in Russia (Moscow, 2008), was just released this year
in a substantially revised and extended English version by Nebraska
University Press in its acclaimed “Critical Studies in the History of
Anthropology” series. She is also an editor of the journal Ab Imperio,
which is a quarterly dedicated to studies in new imperial history, and the
interdisciplinary and comparative study of nationalism and nationalities in
the post-Soviet space.

The Thaden Chair is one of four endowed chairs in Central and Eastern
European studies at UIC. We are fortunate to have two Hejna Family Chairs
in Polish Studies, one in Polish history and one in Polish literature, as
well as an endowed chair in Lithuanian Studies. Professor Mogilner’s
scholarly expertise and vital presence will further strengthen UIC’s
graduate programs in the Departments of History, and Slavic and Baltic
Languages and Literatures.

Welcome, Marina!

All the best,
Colleen

-- 
Colleen McQuillen
Associate Professor, Slavic & Baltic Department

Acting Associate Director
School of Literatures, Cultural Studies, and Linguistics
University of Illinois at Chicago
601 S. Morgan St., MC 306
Chicago, IL  60607

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From obukhina at ACLS.ORG  Tue Sep 10 01:57:54 2013
From: obukhina at ACLS.ORG (Olga Bukhina)
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 01:57:54 +0000
Subject: =?Windows-1252?Q?=93The_Bridge-MOCT=2C=94_?=the new issue
 (Vol. 2, Issue 6 (9), 2013).
Message-ID: <TUE.10.SEP.2013.015754.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

The editors of “The Bridge-MOCT,” the journal of the International Association for the Humanities are pleased to announce the release of the “back to school” fall issue (Vol. 2, Issue 6 (9), 2013). “The Bridge-MOCT” is the electronic journal which came together through the long standing collaboration between Belarusian, Russian, Ukrainian, and North American scholars in the Humanities and Social Sciences. The mission of the newsletter is to protect and advocate intellectual and scholarly autonomy and to work for international collaboration between academic communities. The new issue features an interview with professor Mark D. Steinberg who served as the “Slavic Review” head editor from 2006 to August, 2013; a commentary of the special issue of the Ukrainian journal “Skhid-Zakhid” ("East-West") focusing on the postcolonial discourse in the region; an interview with Pavel Tereshkovich who leads the CASE project in EHU dedicated to the study of Eastern European Borderlands; a commentary on Millersville University Conference on the Holocaust and Genocide; and relevant announcements of new publications, calls for papers and job opportunities. Read “The Bridge-MOCT” online: http://thebridge-moct.org/   Follow us on Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/#!/TheBridgeMoct
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From mkatz at MIDDLEBURY.EDU  Tue Sep 10 09:59:02 2013
From: mkatz at MIDDLEBURY.EDU (Katz, Michael R.)
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 09:59:02 +0000
Subject: FW: tolstoy
In-Reply-To: <CE53681C.A62E%khanta@middlebury.edu>
Message-ID: <TUE.10.SEP.2013.095902.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Dear Colleagues:
Subject: tolstoy

This article appeared in the Wall Street Journal:


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323455104579015190699664588.html?mod=WSJ_hp_EditorsPicks#articleTabs%3Darticle

Michael Katz
Middlebury College

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From elizabethskomp at HOTMAIL.COM  Tue Sep 10 15:10:49 2013
From: elizabethskomp at HOTMAIL.COM (Elizabeth Skomp)
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 11:10:49 -0400
Subject: CFP: Southern Conference on Slavic Studies, April 2014, Atlanta,
 GA
Message-ID: <TUE.10.SEP.2013.111049.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>








CALL FOR
PAPERS 

52th Annual Meeting 

Southern Conference on Slavic Studies 

Atlanta, GA

April
10-12, 2014 

DEADLINE FOR SUBMISSION OF PROPOSALS: January 15, 2014



The Fifty-Second
Annual Meeting of the Southern Conference on Slavic Studies (SCSS) will be held
at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel in Downtown Atlanta, GA, April 10-12, 2014.  The meeting will be hosted by Georgia State
University. The SCSS is the largest of the regional Slavic and Eurasian Studies
associations and its programs attract national and international scholarly
participation.  The
purpose of SCSS is to promote scholarship, education, and in all other ways to
advance scholarly interest in Russian, Soviet, East European, and Eurasian
studies in the Southern region of the United States and nationwide. Membership in SCSS is open to
all persons interested in furthering these goals.  

 

Papers
from all humanities and social science disciplines are welcome and encouraged,
as is a focus on countries other than Russia/USSR.  Papers
and panels on all topics will be considered.  The program committee is accepting panel
and paper proposals until January 15, 2014. Whole panel proposals (chair, three
papers, discussant) are preferred, but proposals for individual papers are also
welcome. Whole panel proposals should include the titles of each individual
paper as well as a title for the panel itself and identifying information (email
addresses and institutional affiliations) for all participants. Proposals for
individual papers should include paper title, email contact, institutional
affiliation, and a brief (one paragraph) abstract to guide the program
committee in the assembly of panels.  If
any AV equipment will be needed, the panel or paper proposals should indicate
so when submitted.  AV will be of limited
availability and assigned on a first-come, first-served basis.  Email (preferably) your proposals to Sharon
Kowalsky at Sharon.Kowalsky at tamuc.edu,
or send it by conventional post to: 



Dr. Sharon Kowalsky

Department of History

Texas A&M
University-Commerce

PO Box 3011

Commerce, TX 75429



For local
arrangements or conference information other than the program, please contact Dr.
Hugh Hudson, Georgia State University, hhudson at gsu.edu. For questions,
proposals or other information regarding the program, please contact Sharon
Kowalsky at Sharon.Kowalsky at tamuc.edu
or 903-886-5627.

 


 		 	   		  
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From keyboard at SHKLAR.COM  Tue Sep 10 15:00:47 2013
From: keyboard at SHKLAR.COM (keyboard@shklar.com)
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 11:00:47 -0400
Subject: WSJ.com - Lots in Translation: How Many Times Can a Tale Be Told?
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From v.carvalhoferreira at GOOGLEMAIL.COM  Tue Sep 10 16:06:45 2013
From: v.carvalhoferreira at GOOGLEMAIL.COM (Vera Ferreira)
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 17:06:45 +0100
Subject: Endangered Languages Music Festival (Minde / Portugal,
 18-19 October)
Message-ID: <TUE.10.SEP.2013.170645.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

CIDLeS invites you to the Endangered Languages Music Festival that will 
take place on the evenings of 18th and 19th of October at the old 
textile factory Emídio da Silva Raposo in Minde (Portugal). The Festival 
is part of a bigger event on Endangered Languages in Europe (ELE 2013) 
which includes an international conference (17th and 18th of October) 
and a Language Fair (19th of October).

During the Festival, six modern bands from all over Europe (Galicia, 
Portugal, Basque Country, Brittany, Udmurtia, Bavaria) will perform in 
their native languages. It will be a multicultural and multilingual event.

Don't miss it!
Buy your tickets now: http://ele2013musicfestival-eorg.eventbrite.com/

-- 
International Conference on Endangered Languages in Europe
Language Fair
Endangered Languages Music Festival
October 17th-19th, 2013
Minde, Portugal

Web: http://www.cidles.eu/events/conference-ele-2013/
Email: ele2013 at cidles.eu


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From bjr19 at PSU.EDU  Tue Sep 10 16:55:20 2013
From: bjr19 at PSU.EDU (BONNIE JEANNE ROSSMAN)
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 12:55:20 -0400
Subject: Penn State Russian Lecturer Position
Message-ID: <TUE.10.SEP.2013.125520.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Lecturer in Russian

The Pennsylvania State University

Department of Germanic and Slavic Languages and Literatures

 

The Department of Germanic and Slavic Languages and Literatures at The
Pennsylvania State University (University Park) invites applications for a
full-time lectureship position (non tenure-track) in Russian, for up to a
3-year term to begin in Fall 2014 with possibility of renewal.
Responsibilities include teaching Russian language courses at all levels
as well as undergraduate Russian literature and culture courses taught in
Russian and English including a large-enrollment online Russian culture
course taught in English. Teaching experience in the US is highly
desirable. Teaching load is 3-3. Applicants must have native or
near-native fluency in English and Russian and hold at least a Master's
degree in Russian or related field, Ph.D. preferable. Salary is
commensurate with experience and includes benefits. 

Please submit a cover letter and curriculum vitae electronically at the
following website:  <http://www.la.psu.edu/facultysearch/>
www.la.psu.edu/facultysearch/.  Please have three letters of
recommendation (under separate cover) sent to Bonnie Rossman (
<mailto:bjr19 at psu.edu> bjr19 at psu.edu). For more information on our
program, please consult   <http://german.la.psu.edu/slavic/index.shtml>
http://german.la.psu.edu/slavic/index.shtml. 

Review of applications begins on November 1, 2013. Applications will be
accepted until the position is filled. Employment will require successful
completion of background check(s) in accordance with University policies.
Penn State is committed to affirmative action, equal opportunity and the
diversity of its workplace. 

 

 

 

Bonnie Rossman 
Administrative Support Assistant   
School of Languages and Literatures
Penn State University   
429 Burrowes Building   
University Park, PA  16802      
(814) 867-4430 
(814) 863-8882 - fax
bjr19 at psu.edu


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From AnemoneA at NEWSCHOOL.EDU  Tue Sep 10 19:53:27 2013
From: AnemoneA at NEWSCHOOL.EDU (Anthony Anemone)
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 15:53:27 -0400
Subject: Daniil Kharms
Message-ID: <TUE.10.SEP.2013.155327.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

We're hoping this program may be of interest to colleagues and our students
- in it Justin Curfman speaks at length with Peter Scotto and me, the
translators of *"I am a Phenomenon quite out of the Ordinary"; The
Notebooks, Diaries and Letters of Daniil Kharms* (ASP, 2013), Matvei
Yankelevich, the translator of *Today I wrote nothing* (Overlook, 2009) and
Svetlana Dubovitskaya, the translator of *The Charms of Harms *(Matteo
Pub., 20122), on the life, work and meaning of Daniil Kharms.

http://justincurfman.podomatic.com/entry/2013-08-30T05_26_59-07_00

Tony

-- 
Tony Anemone
Associate Professor
The New School
72 Fifth Ave, 702
New York, NY 10011

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From bershtee at REED.EDU  Wed Sep 11 01:15:36 2013
From: bershtee at REED.EDU (Evgenii Bershtein)
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 18:15:36 -0700
Subject: Looking to Rent an Apartment in Moscow
Message-ID: <TUE.10.SEP.2013.181536.0700.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Colleagues,

I will be conducting archival research in Moscow for about a month, approx.
from October 20 to November 20, and I look to rent a small, reasonably
comfortable apartment for that time, either in the city center or  within a
short ride from Metro station Vodnyi stadion. I would be grateful for any
suggestions, recommendations or leads. Please email me off-list. Thanks!


Evgenii Bershtein
Associate Professor of Russian
Reed College

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From rifkin at TCNJ.EDU  Wed Sep 11 02:28:53 2013
From: rifkin at TCNJ.EDU (Benjamin Rifkin)
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 22:28:53 -0400
Subject: Essay on Soviet / Jewish Food
Message-ID: <TUE.10.SEP.2013.222853.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Dear SEELANGers:

I found this essay touching and perhaps some of you will, too:

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-life-and-religion/143070/soviet-cooking-memoir

Anna Brodsky, from Washington & Lee, is mentioned briefly.

Look for the detail about the early Soviet haggadah.

Best wishes,

Ben Rifkin
The College of New Jersey


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From renee at ALINGA.COM  Wed Sep 11 17:33:35 2013
From: renee at ALINGA.COM (Renee (Stillings) Huhs)
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 10:33:35 -0700
Subject: Teleconferencing Courses
Message-ID: <WED.11.SEP.2013.103335.0700.>

Good People of SEELANGS!

 

Andrea Lanoux of Connecticut College has helped develop a new course using
teleconferencing to allow students in Connecticut to learn with - and from -
Russian students in St. Petersburg (and vice versa). She has detailed her
experience and shared her syllabus in a new article on SRAS.org: 

 

http://www.sras.org/teaching_via_teleconference

 

For those going to the ASEEES National Convention in Boston this year, look
for her roundtable, "Digital Spaces East-West: Journals, Blogs, and
Educational Projects" on Sunday, Nov. 24 from 8:00 a.m. to 9:15 a.m.

 

It's exciting stuff! 

 

Best,

 

Josh Wilson
Assistant Director
The School of Russian and Asian Studies
Editor in Chief
Vestnik, The Journal of Russian and Asian Studies
SRAS.org 
jwilson at sras.org

 


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From kthresher at RANDOLPHCOLLEGE.EDU  Wed Sep 11 18:45:52 2013
From: kthresher at RANDOLPHCOLLEGE.EDU (Klawa Thresher)
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 18:45:52 +0000
Subject: Pride and Prejudice opening sentence in Russian
Message-ID: <WED.11.SEP.2013.184552.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>



Dear Colleagues,

An English professor from a neighboring college is going to Russia to give some lectures and would like the Russian translation of the first sentence of Pride and Prejudice :  “It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune must be in need of a wife.” I am hoping that one of you might already have this in a translation of the book. If so, I would greatly appreciate it if you could send it to me at: kthresher at randolphcollege.edu<mailto:kthresher at randolphcollege.edu>.

Thank you very much in advance,
Klawa Thresher


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From Philippe.FRISON at COE.INT  Wed Sep 11 18:57:21 2013
From: Philippe.FRISON at COE.INT (FRISON Philippe)
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 18:57:21 +0000
Subject: Pride and Prejudice opening sentence in Russian
In-Reply-To: <366A1BCF7F8C5D4B9C538119470969F556CB8037@RCExchange.randolphcollege.edu>
Message-ID: <WED.11.SEP.2013.185721.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Here is Marshak’s translation :

  Все  знают,  что  молодой  человек,  располагающий  средствами,  должен
подыскивать себе жену.

http://www.lib.ru/INOOLD/OSTEN/gord.txt
Pride and Prejudice, 1813
     Перевод с английского И. Маршака
     Комментарии Е. Гениевой, Н. Демуровой
     Текст  печатается  по изданию: Джейн  Остен. Собрание сочинений в  трех
томах. М., "Художественная литература", 1988, 1989
---------------------------------------------------------------



     Все  знают,  что  молодой  человек,  располагающий  средствами,  должен
подыскивать себе жену.

According to Wikipedia, there are two other translations into Russian by Anastasia « Nastik » Gryzunova (2008) and by Irina Gavrilovna Gurova.
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B4%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8C_%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B4%D1%83%D0%B1%D0%B5%D0%B6%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5

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Dear Colleagues,

An English professor from a neighboring college is going to Russia to give some lectures and would like the Russian translation of the first sentence of Pride and Prejudice :  “It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune must be in need of a wife.” I am hoping that one of you might already have this in a translation of the book. If so, I would greatly appreciate it if you could send it to me at: kthresher at randolphcollege.edu<mailto:kthresher at randolphcollege.edu>.

Thank you very much in advance,
Klawa Thresher


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From milagrinshpan at YAHOO.COM  Wed Sep 11 19:05:03 2013
From: milagrinshpan at YAHOO.COM (Lyudmila Grinshpan)
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 12:05:03 -0700
Subject: Pride and Prejudice opening sentence in Russian
In-Reply-To: <366A1BCF7F8C5D4B9C538119470969F556CB8037@RCExchange.randolphcollege.edu>
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Все знают, что молодой человек, располагающий 
средствами, должен подыскивать себе жену.
 
 Translation:Маршак Иммануэль


Холостяк, если он обладает солидным состоянием, 
должен настоятельно нуждаться в жене, такова общепризнанная истина.

Translation: Гурова Ирина 

 
 Lyudmila 


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Dear Colleagues,
 
An English professor from a neighboring college is going to Russia to give some lectures and would like the Russian translation of the first sentence of Pride and Prejudice :  “It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune must be in need of a wife.” I am hoping that one of you might already have this in a translation of the book. If so, I would greatly appreciate it if you could send it to me at: kthresher at randolphcollege.edu.
 
Thank you very much in advance,
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From paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM  Wed Sep 11 20:19:31 2013
From: paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM (Paul B. Gallagher)
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:19:31 -0400
Subject: Pride and Prejudice opening sentence in Russian
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FRISON Philippe wrote:

> Here is Marshak’s translation :
>
> Все знают, что молодой человек, располагающий средствами, должен
> подыскивать себе жену.

Fascinating. I took the "must" in that sentence as speculative ("I'm 
sure he will do this") and not imperative ("He has to do this").

I know that Russian "должен" can sometimes have this sense, but I'm not 
convinced it works that way here.

Agree or disagree with these two points?

-- 
War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
--
Paul B. Gallagher
pbg translations, inc.
"Russian Translations That Read Like Originals"
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From wfr at SAS.AC.UK  Wed Sep 11 23:41:10 2013
From: wfr at SAS.AC.UK (William Ryan)
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 00:41:10 +0100
Subject: Pride and Prejudice opening sentence in Russian
In-Reply-To: <5230D053.2030005@pbg-translations.com>
Message-ID: <THU.12.SEP.2013.004110.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

I'm inclined to agree. Also, Marshak's translation of this sentence is 
poor is several respects and entirely misses the jocular note of the 
original. The Gurova version is better.

Will Ryan

On 11/09/2013 21:19, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> FRISON Philippe wrote:
>
>> Here is Marshak’s translation :
>>
>> Все знают, что молодой человек, располагающий средствами, должен
>> подыскивать себе жену.
>
> Fascinating. I took the "must" in that sentence as speculative ("I'm 
> sure he will do this") and not imperative ("He has to do this").
>
> I know that Russian "должен" can sometimes have this sense, but I'm 
> not convinced it works that way here.
>
> Agree or disagree with these two points?
>


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From pstock at BRANDEIS.EDU  Thu Sep 12 00:36:25 2013
From: pstock at BRANDEIS.EDU (David Powelstock)
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 20:36:25 -0400
Subject: Pride and Prejudice opening sentence in Russian
In-Reply-To: <5230FF96.5060205@sas.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <WED.11.SEP.2013.203625.0400.>

I completely agree about the two translations. It doesn't seem that Marshak
has made any attempt to capture the tone of the original. Shocking, really,
especially considering that it's the *first* sentence of the novel.

Cheers,
David P.

 * * * * * * * * * *
David Powelstock
Assoc. Prof. of Russian and Comparative Literature
Director, Master of Arts in Comparative Humanities
Brandeis University
Waltham, MA 02453


On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 7:41 PM, William Ryan <wfr at sas.ac.uk> wrote:

> I'm inclined to agree. Also, Marshak's translation of this sentence is
> poor is several respects and entirely misses the jocular note of the
> original. The Gurova version is better.
>
> Will Ryan
>
>
> On 11/09/2013 21:19, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>
>> FRISON Philippe wrote:
>>
>>  Here is Marshak’s translation :
>>>
>>> Все знают, что молодой человек, располагающий средствами, должен
>>> подыскивать себе жену.
>>>
>>
>> Fascinating. I took the "must" in that sentence as speculative ("I'm sure
>> he will do this") and not imperative ("He has to do this").
>>
>> I know that Russian "должен" can sometimes have this sense, but I'm not
>> convinced it works that way here.
>>
>> Agree or disagree with these two points?
>>
>>
>
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From rifkin at TCNJ.EDU  Thu Sep 12 01:51:27 2013
From: rifkin at TCNJ.EDU (Benjamin Rifkin)
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 21:51:27 -0400
Subject: Putin Op-Ed Essay in NY Times
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Dear SEELANGers:

If you don't normally check the NY Times, today is a good day to do it, because Vladimir Putin has an Op-Ed Essay about American exceptionalism.

Sincerely,

Benjamin Rifkin
The College of New Jersey

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From raj6a at VIRGINIA.EDU  Thu Sep 12 01:45:26 2013
From: raj6a at VIRGINIA.EDU (Reed Johnson)
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 20:45:26 -0500
Subject: Pride and Prejudice opening sentence in Russian
Message-ID: <WED.11.SEP.2013.204526.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Apologies for thread hijacking, but speaking of Russian translations of famous first lines of English-language classics, here's a shameless plug: Today I posted in the New Yorker online about the outcry a few years back over the recent Russian retranslation of "Catcher in the Rye." Here, if you're interested, are the opening first sentence of Salinger's text and the two translations:

"If you really want to hear about it, the first thing you’ll probably want to know is where I was born, and what my lousy childhood was like, and how my parents were occupied and all before they had me, and all that David Copperfield kind of crap, but I don’t feel like going into it, if you want to know the truth."

Here's Rita-Rait Kovaleva's 1961 translation:

Если вам на самом деле хочется услышать  эту  историю,  вы,  наверно, прежде всего захотите узнать, где я  родился,  как  провел  свое  дурацкое детство, что делали мои родители до моего  рождения,  -  словом,  всю  эту давид-копперфилдовскую муть. Но, по  правде  говоря,  мне  неохота  в этом копаться. 

And here's the first line of Max Nemtsov's 2008 retranslation:

"Если по-честному охота слушать, для начала вам, наверно, подавай, где я родился и что за погань у меня творилась в детстве, чего предки делали и всяко-разно, пока не заимели меня, да прочую Дэвид-Копперфилдову херню, только не в жилу мне про все это трындеть, сказать вам правду."

I'm not sure how successful my back-translations are of the Russian text, but it was fun to write. If anyone's interested, here's the link: 

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/books/2013/09/translating-catcher-in-the-rye-if-holden-caulfield-spoke-russian.html

Thanks!
Reed Johnson
University of Virginia

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From sarahnhurst at GMAIL.COM  Thu Sep 12 08:09:24 2013
From: sarahnhurst at GMAIL.COM (Sarah Hurst)
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 09:09:24 +0100
Subject: Pride and Prejudice opening sentence in Russian
In-Reply-To: <5230FF96.5060205@sas.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <THU.12.SEP.2013.090924.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

I also agree. "Everyone knows" in Russian is hardly comparable to "It is a
truth universally acknowledged."

Sarah Hurst


On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:41 AM, William Ryan <wfr at sas.ac.uk> wrote:

> I'm inclined to agree. Also, Marshak's translation of this sentence is
> poor is several respects and entirely misses the jocular note of the
> original. The Gurova version is better.
>
> Will Ryan
>
>
> On 11/09/2013 21:19, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>
>> FRISON Philippe wrote:
>>
>>  Here is Marshak's translation :
>>>
>>> Все знают, что молодой человек, располагающий средствами, должен
>>> подыскивать себе жену.
>>>
>>
>> Fascinating. I took the "must" in that sentence as speculative ("I'm sure
>> he will do this") and not imperative ("He has to do this").
>>
>> I know that Russian "должен" can sometimes have this sense, but I'm not
>> convinced it works that way here.
>>
>> Agree or disagree with these two points?
>>
>>
>
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From t.moran at NEW.OXON.ORG  Thu Sep 12 09:00:12 2013
From: t.moran at NEW.OXON.ORG (Terry Moran)
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 11:00:12 +0200
Subject: Pride and Prejudice opening sentence in Russian
In-Reply-To: <CAC-cwBP2jB4MV_FEMTRQf8HpJX-YhgALcdA4W8OawHHWa=Wf3w@mail.gmail.com>
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Уважаемые новые коллеги!

I share the view that Gurova has done a far better job. "все знают" comes
nowhere near "it is a truth universally acknowledged", and after reading
Marshak's opening sentence - if I were at all familiar with the original,
that is - I'd be disinclined to read any further.

The only fault I can find with the Gurova rendering is its use of должен as
commented on by Philippe Frison - must/должен is a common source of error
in translations in both directions. There's no duty, debt or obligation
involved here, so должен is simply wrong. How would it be if we replaced

должен настоятельно нуждаться в жене


by

обязательно нуждаeтся в жене


or

(холостяку...) обязательно нужна жена


? In colloquial speech обязательно has lost the sense of obligation
that обязанность,
for example, still has.

One alternative might be

нуждаeтся, должно быть, в жене


but on balance I prefer my second variant: нужна жена.

Just a thought. Feel free to shoot me down!

Greeetings -

Terry Moran


On 12 September 2013 10:09, Sarah Hurst <sarahnhurst at gmail.com> wrote:

> I also agree. "Everyone knows" in Russian is hardly comparable to "It is a
> truth universally acknowledged."
>
> Sarah Hurst
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:41 AM, William Ryan <wfr at sas.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> I'm inclined to agree. Also, Marshak's translation of this sentence is
>> poor is several respects and entirely misses the jocular note of the
>> original. The Gurova version is better.
>>
>> Will Ryan
>>
>>
>> On 11/09/2013 21:19, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>
>>> FRISON Philippe wrote:
>>>
>>>  Here is Marshak's translation :
>>>>
>>>> Все знают, что молодой человек, располагающий средствами, должен
>>>> подыскивать себе жену.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Fascinating. I took the "must" in that sentence as speculative ("I'm
>>> sure he will do this") and not imperative ("He has to do this").
>>>
>>> I know that Russian "должен" can sometimes have this sense, but I'm not
>>> convinced it works that way here.
>>>
>>> Agree or disagree with these two points?
>>>
>>>
>>
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From sarahnhurst at GMAIL.COM  Thu Sep 12 10:02:50 2013
From: sarahnhurst at GMAIL.COM (Sarah Hurst)
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 11:02:50 +0100
Subject: screenplay set in St. Petersburg
Message-ID: <THU.12.SEP.2013.110250.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Dear SEELANGers,

I have just completed a first draft of a movie screenplay set in St.
Petersburg, "The Thread." I would be very grateful if any of you would like
to read the synopsis and/or download the PDF of the screenplay, read it and
rate it on Amazon Studios.

Here is the link:

http://studios.amazon.com/projects/28526

If you have any comments that you would like to send to me off-list, that
would be great too.

Thank you,

Sarah Hurst

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From John.Dunn at GLASGOW.AC.UK  Thu Sep 12 10:07:49 2013
From: John.Dunn at GLASGOW.AC.UK (John Dunn)
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 11:07:49 +0100
Subject: Pride and Prejudice opening sentence in Russian
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While I agree with the comments made about the Marshak translation, I think there are also problems with Irina Gurova's version.  In particular, I don't see why she has seen fit to move the opening part of the sentence to the end.  Not only does this change the emphasis, but it also loses the intentional bathos of the original: the opening words are meant to lead us on to expect some profound philosophical observation, instead of which we are given a statement of a rather different nature.

John Dunn.        
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Все знают, что молодой человек, располагающий средствами, должен подыскивать себе жену.



Translation: Маршак Иммануэль

Холостяк, если он обладает солидным состоянием, должен настоятельно нуждаться в жене, такова общепризнанная истина.

Translation:    Гурова Ирина



Lyudmila
________________________________
From: Klawa Thresher <kthresher at RANDOLPHCOLLEGE.EDU>
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 1:45 PM
Subject: [SEELANGS] Pride and Prejudice opening sentence in Russian



Dear Colleagues,

An English professor from a neighboring college is going to Russia to give some lectures and would like the Russian translation of the first sentence of Pride and Prejudice :  “It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune must be in need of a wife.” I am hoping that one of you might already have this in a translation of the book. If so, I would greatly appreciate it if you could send it to me at: kthresher at randolphcollege.edu<mailto:kthresher at randolphcollege.edu>.

Thank you very much in advance,
Klawa Thresher

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From pstock at BRANDEIS.EDU  Thu Sep 12 13:25:43 2013
From: pstock at BRANDEIS.EDU (David Powelstock)
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 09:25:43 -0400
Subject: Pride and Prejudice opening sentence in Russian
In-Reply-To: <CAAudqYUfiL9Wqb-i-L0w0fwFc8GRwnH8pi+65C96HLf12kF_Og@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <THU.12.SEP.2013.092543.0400.>

On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 5:00 AM, Terry Moran <t.moran at new.oxon.org> wrote:

> ​​
> обязательно


​I agree that ​an expression using
​
обязательно will better capture the sense of the original. But to my
ear, нуждаeтся в жене signals the irony more effectively than нужна жена.

Cheers,
David P.


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David Powelstock
Assoc. Prof. of Russian and Comparative Literature
Director, Master of Arts in Comparative Humanities
Brandeis University
Waltham, MA 02453

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From maberdy at GMAIL.COM  Thu Sep 12 13:48:55 2013
From: maberdy at GMAIL.COM (Michele A Berdy)
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 17:48:55 +0400
Subject: Pride and Prejudice opening sentence in Russian
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I do hope some of our native Russian speakers and translators will chime in
here. Word order in sentences is such a tricky business. It's possible that
flipping the order as Gurova has done creates something closer to the effect
of the original. Maintaining the word order might make it flat and almost
bureaucratic. But I'm just guessing -- we need an expert opinion or two!  

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Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Pride and Prejudice opening sentence in Russian

While I agree with the comments made about the Marshak translation, I think
there are also problems with Irina Gurova's version.  In particular, I don't
see why she has seen fit to move the opening part of the sentence to the
end.  Not only does this change the emphasis, but it also loses the
intentional bathos of the original: the opening words are meant to lead us
on to expect some profound philosophical observation, instead of which we
are given a statement of a rather different nature.

John Dunn.        
________________________________________
From: SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures list
[SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lyudmila Grinshpan
[milagrinshpan at YAHOO.COM]
Sent: 11 September 2013 21:05
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
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Все знают, что молодой человек, располагающий средствами, должен подыскивать
себе жену.



Translation: Маршак Иммануэль

Холостяк, если он обладает солидным состоянием, должен настоятельно
нуждаться в жене, такова общепризнанная истина.

Translation:    Гурова Ирина



Lyudmila
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Dear Colleagues,

An English professor from a neighboring college is going to Russia to give
some lectures and would like the Russian translation of the first sentence
of Pride and Prejudice :  "It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a
single man in possession of a good fortune must be in need of a wife." I am
hoping that one of you might already have this in a translation of the book.
If so, I would greatly appreciate it if you could send it to me at:
kthresher at randolphcollege.edu<mailto:kthresher at randolphcollege.edu>.

Thank you very much in advance,
Klawa Thresher

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From aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU  Thu Sep 12 14:24:04 2013
From: aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU (Alina Israeli)
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 10:24:04 -0400
Subject: Pride and Prejudice opening sentence in Russian
In-Reply-To: <02a501ceafbe$d386ffd0$7a94ff70$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <THU.12.SEP.2013.102404.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>


I am accepting Michele's challenge.

First, the English phrase has a cadence:

“It is a truth universally acknowledged,

that a single man in possession of a good fortune

must be in need of a wife.”


So I propose something along the lines of the following to preserve it:

Следует признать повсеместно признанным,

что холостой мужчина с приличным состоянием

очевидно нуждается в жене.


Alina

On Sep 12, 2013, at 9:48 AM, Michele A Berdy wrote:

> I do hope some of our native Russian speakers and translators will  
> chime in
> here. Word order in sentences is such a tricky business. It's  
> possible that
> flipping the order as Gurova has done creates something closer to  
> the effect
> of the original. Maintaining the word order might make it flat and  
> almost
> bureaucratic. But I'm just guessing -- we need an expert opinion or  
> two!
>

Alina Israeli
Associate Professor of Russian
WLC, American University
4400 Massachusetts Ave.
Washington DC 20016
(202) 885-2387 	fax (202) 885-1076
aisrael at american.edu






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From krutsala at OU.EDU  Thu Sep 12 14:33:03 2013
From: krutsala at OU.EDU (Rutsala, Kirsten M.)
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 14:33:03 +0000
Subject: Pride and Prejudice opening sentence in Russian
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Since no one else has pointed out the error in the original post, the first line of the novel actually reads as follows:  "It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune must be in want of a wife."  The use of the word "want" rather than "need" adds something to the text, in terms of meaning and nuance, as well as cadence and alliteration.



Kirsten Rutsala
Assistant Professor of Russian
Department of Modern Languages, Literatures, and Linguistics
University of Oklahoma
206 Kaufman Hall
780 Van Vleet Oval
Norman, OK 73019
(405) 325-1393
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I am accepting Michele's challenge.

First, the English phrase has a cadence:

“It is a truth universally acknowledged,
that a single man in possession of a good fortune
must be in need of a wife.”

So I propose something along the lines of the following to preserve it:

Следует признать повсеместно признанным,
что холостой мужчина с приличным состоянием
очевидно нуждается в жене.

Alina

On Sep 12, 2013, at 9:48 AM, Michele A Berdy wrote:

I do hope some of our native Russian speakers and translators will chime in
here. Word order in sentences is such a tricky business. It's possible that
flipping the order as Gurova has done creates something closer to the effect
of the original. Maintaining the word order might make it flat and almost
bureaucratic. But I'm just guessing -- we need an expert opinion or two!


Alina Israeli
Associate Professor of Russian
WLC, American University
4400 Massachusetts Ave.
Washington DC 20016
(202) 885-2387  fax (202) 885-1076
aisrael at american.edu<mailto:aisrael at american.edu>





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From rmcleminson at POST.SK  Thu Sep 12 15:27:47 2013
From: rmcleminson at POST.SK (R. M. Cleminson)
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 17:27:47 +0200
Subject: Pride and Prejudice opening sentence in Russian
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I can't resist either.  

Истина сия повсеместно признаваема, что неженатый господин, добрым состоянием обладающий, непременно нуждается в супруге.



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From devilsbit06 at YAHOO.COM  Wed Sep 11 16:36:12 2013
From: devilsbit06 at YAHOO.COM (J P Maher)
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:36:12 -0700
Subject: Essay on Soviet / Jewish Food
In-Reply-To: <8665520A-DCCF-4487-9723-59082DA92CC2@tcnj.edu>
Message-ID: <WED.11.SEP.2013.093612.0700.JPMAHER@NEIU.EDU>

Isn't gefilte fish  a plural in Yiddish?:
jpm
 

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Dear SEELANGers:

I found this essay touching and perhaps some of you will, too:

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-life-and-religion/143070/soviet-cooking-memoir

Anna Brodsky, from Washington & Lee, is mentioned briefly.

Look for the detail about the early Soviet haggadah.

Best wishes,

Ben Rifkin
The College of New Jersey

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From bliss.mst at GMAIL.COM  Thu Sep 12 16:10:14 2013
From: bliss.mst at GMAIL.COM (Liv Bliss)
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 11:10:14 -0500
Subject: Pride and Prejudice opening sentence in Russian
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Absolutely agree, Paul -- Marshak's change of emphasis struck me hard too. The point is that other people *think* the well-to-do young man should be married and settled (for several good reasons -- at best, resulting in a win-win); he is less likely to be aware of that and to be devoutly wishing such a conclusion. Now, ask me to produce something better and you'll find me cowering under my desk.

Best to all
Liv

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From John.Dunn at GLASGOW.AC.UK  Thu Sep 12 16:16:44 2013
From: John.Dunn at GLASGOW.AC.UK (John Dunn)
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 17:16:44 +0100
Subject: Pride and Prejudice opening sentence in Russian
In-Reply-To: <226050550.18192.1378999667584.JavaMail.root@mbox01.in.post.sk>
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I thought that Alina Israeli's version was an improvement on both published translations, but Ralph Cleminson's offering raises an interesting question that has been going through my mind all day. While pondering the question why translations might, in general, tend to be 'flatter' or more neutral than their corresponding originals, I realised that in addition to the problem of unconventional language of all sorts there is that of chronology.  Jane Austen writes in early-nineteenth-century English, but (as I was going to say) no-one is likely to produce a translation into Russian of the corresponding period.  In fact, this is what I interpret Ralph to be attempting, but I hope he will not take undue exception if I suggest that this is more of an intellectual exercise (however well executed) than a practical solution (though cf. the 'invention' of Old Russian in the film Ivan Groznyj).

I suspect that chronology is part of the problem with 'Catcher in the Rye': the 1990s translation is anachronistic, since Holden Caulfield uses the language of the 1950s.  But to attempt to reproduce Russian teenage language of the 1950s (if such a thing exists) would create problems of a different sort, and therefore it seems to me that some degree of linguistic neutralisation is unavoidable.   

On occasion this neutralisation can have the effect of producing translations that are more accessible than the originals.

John Dunn. 
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I can't resist either.

Истина сия повсеместно признаваема, что неженатый господин, добрым состоянием обладающий, непременно нуждается в супруге.



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From thysentinel at HOTMAIL.COM  Thu Sep 12 15:47:20 2013
From: thysentinel at HOTMAIL.COM (Sentinel76 Astrakhan)
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 15:47:20 +0000
Subject: Pride and Prejudice opening sentence in Russian
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Brilliant, Robert!
 
The original does say "in WANT," but "нуждается" can be interpreted as "need" and "want" at the same time.
 
If you want to make it more colloquial:
 
Всякому известно, что обладающий состоянием холостяк наверняка нуждается в супруге.
 
Vadim

 
> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 17:27:47 +0200
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> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Pride and Prejudice opening sentence in Russian
> To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
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> I can't resist either.  
> 
> Истина сия повсеместно признаваема, что неженатый господин, добрым состоянием обладающий, непременно нуждается в супруге.
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From oprokop at TEMPLE.EDU  Thu Sep 12 21:40:07 2013
From: oprokop at TEMPLE.EDU (Olia Prokopenko)
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 17:40:07 -0400
Subject: Pride and Prejudice opening sentence in Russian
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 "Должен" is a good choice because of its two meanings: one of strong
probability "I'm sure he will do this" (as in "Он должен подойти с минуты
на минуту"), another one of moral imperative "He has to do this" (as in
"Теперь он должен жениться").
I like Gurianova's combination of "должен" and "нуждаться". It creates the
necessary comic effect (from the viewpoint of the parents of unmarried
daughters, "если богатый холостяк не моральный урод, ему должно
недоставать  женщины рядом" and he should start paying attention to those
available).
Olia


On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Paul B. Gallagher <
paulbg at pbg-translations.com> wrote:

> FRISON Philippe wrote:
>
>  Here is Marshak's translation :
>>
>> Все знают, что молодой человек, располагающий средствами, должен
>> подыскивать себе жену.
>>
>
> Fascinating. I took the "must" in that sentence as speculative ("I'm sure
> he will do this") and not imperative ("He has to do this").
>
> I know that Russian "должен" can sometimes have this sense, but I'm not
> convinced it works that way here.
>
> Agree or disagree with these two points?
>
> --
> War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
> --
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> pbg translations, inc.
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From oprokop at TEMPLE.EDU  Thu Sep 12 21:44:00 2013
From: oprokop at TEMPLE.EDU (Olia Prokopenko)
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 17:44:00 -0400
Subject: Pride and Prejudice opening sentence in Russian
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Ooops! Apologies to Irina Gurova whose name I misspelled in my message.
Olia


On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Paul B. Gallagher <
paulbg at pbg-translations.com> wrote:

> FRISON Philippe wrote:
>
>  Here is Marshak's translation :
>>
>> Все знают, что молодой человек, располагающий средствами, должен
>> подыскивать себе жену.
>>
>
> Fascinating. I took the "must" in that sentence as speculative ("I'm sure
> he will do this") and not imperative ("He has to do this").
>
> I know that Russian "должен" can sometimes have this sense, but I'm not
> convinced it works that way here.
>
> Agree or disagree with these two points?
>
> --
> War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
> --
> Paul B. Gallagher
> pbg translations, inc.
> "Russian Translations That Read Like Originals"
> http://pbg-translations.com
>
>
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From subhash.jaireth at GMAIL.COM  Thu Sep 12 23:14:35 2013
From: subhash.jaireth at GMAIL.COM (subhash.jaireth at GMAIL.COM)
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 09:14:35 +1000
Subject: Pride and Prejudice
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Hi,

I like Marshak's translation. It is simple, has pace and most importantly it raises expectation, wanting me to read more. Irina Gurova's seems more accurate but complicated. For me it doesn't work as an 'opening sentence'. But translation as we all know is never going to be perfect. It is like pouring water from one cup to another and of different sizes: leading either to spills or to under-fill. Or it is like an act of making love in which only one of the parties feels consummated.

Best wishes

Subhash

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From kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM  Fri Sep 13 07:12:58 2013
From: kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Robert Chandler)
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 08:12:58 +0100
Subject: Pride and Prejudice
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Dear Subhash,

You write:
>  It is like pouring water from one cup to another and of different sizes: leading either to spills or to under-fill. Or it is like an act of making love in which only one of the parties feels consummated.

I wish I could understand why people so love to repeat this kind of statement.  Why does the need to trash the obviously essential art of translation seems to be so oddly widespread?  Should it really surprise us that a few people have failed to come up with an adequate translation of one of the most famous sentences of one of the greatest stylists in the English language? 

All the best,

Robert



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From marianschwartz at GMAIL.COM  Fri Sep 13 13:29:59 2013
From: marianschwartz at GMAIL.COM (Marian Schwartz)
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 08:29:59 -0500
Subject: Pride and Prejudice
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Well said, Robert.

Thank you.

Marian


On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 2:12 AM, Robert Chandler <kcf19 at dial.pipex.com>wrote:

> Dear Subhash,
>
> You write:
> >  It is like pouring water from one cup to another and of different
> sizes: leading either to spills or to under-fill. Or it is like an act of
> making love in which only one of the parties feels consummated.
>
> I wish I could understand why people so love to repeat this kind of
> statement.  Why does the need to trash the obviously essential art of
> translation seems to be so oddly widespread?  Should it really surprise us
> that a few people have failed to come up with an adequate translation of
> one of the most famous sentences of one of the greatest stylists in the
> English language?
>
> All the best,
>
> Robert
>
>
>
> >
>
>
>
>
> Robert Chandler, 42 Milson Road, London, W14 OLD
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From simon at SIMONBEATTIE.CO.UK  Fri Sep 13 13:36:43 2013
From: simon at SIMONBEATTIE.CO.UK (Simon Beattie)
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 13:36:43 +0000
Subject: Pride and Prejudice
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What I find more interesting is just how long it took for Austen’s work to appear in Russian.  Of course, 19th-century Russian readers may well have read her novels in French or German translation, if they didn’t know English.

Simon


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Well said, Robert.

Thank you.

Marian

On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 2:12 AM, Robert Chandler <kcf19 at dial.pipex.com<mailto:kcf19 at dial.pipex.com>> wrote:
Dear Subhash,

You write:
>  It is like pouring water from one cup to another and of different sizes: leading either to spills or to under-fill. Or it is like an act of making love in which only one of the parties feels consummated.
I wish I could understand why people so love to repeat this kind of statement.  Why does the need to trash the obviously essential art of translation seems to be so oddly widespread?  Should it really surprise us that a few people have failed to come up with an adequate translation of one of the most famous sentences of one of the greatest stylists in the English language?

All the best,

Robert



>




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From ulbrecht at SLU.CAS.CZ  Fri Sep 13 13:05:15 2013
From: ulbrecht at SLU.CAS.CZ (Siegfried Ulbrecht)
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 15:05:15 +0200
Subject: Slavica
Message-ID: <FRI.13.SEP.2013.150515.0200.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Jiří Bečka - Siegfried Ulbrecht a kol.: Slavica v české řeči III. Část 2.
Překlady z východoslovanských jazyků v letech 1891-1918, Praha: Slovanský
ústav AV ČR, 2012. 652 s. (Práce Slovanského ústavu AV ČR. Nová řada, 35).
ISBN 978-80-86420-45-5. 652 s.

This final volume presents translations from Belarusian, Ukrainian and
Russian from 1891 to 1918. It is divided into three parts, an extensive
introductory chapter outlining the history of the project and the
reception of Slavonic literatures in the Czech environment, a
bibliographical section (with an anthology, a collection of works, the
works of individual authors and anonymous works) of translations from
Belarusian, Ukrainian and Russian literature, two indexes (of authors and
translators, editors and prominent cultural figures) and a listing of
excerpted journals. The bibliographical section comprises a total of 9,960
entries.

Závěrečný svazek rozsáhlého monografického díla zpracovávajícího historii
a přehled překladů krásné literatury ze slovanských jazyků do češtiny od
začátku 19. století do roku 1918. Závěrečný svazek přináší překlady z
běloruštiny, ukrajinštiny a ruštiny v období let 1891-1918. Je rozdělen do
tří částí: rozsáhlé úvodní kapitoly, mapující historii projektu i recepci
slovanských literatur v českém prostředí, bibliografického oddílu
(antologie, soubor prací, díla jednotlivých autorů, anonymní práce)
překladů z běloruské, ukrajinské a ruské literatury, dvou rejstříků
(rejstřík autorů a rejstřík překladatelů, editorů a osobností kultury) a
seznamu excerpovaných časopisů. Bibliografická část obsahuje celkem 9 960
hesel.

Slovanský ústav AV ČR, v.v.i. /
Institute of Slavonic Studies of the ASCR, v.v.i.
Dr. Siegfried Ulbrecht
Valentinská 1
CZ-110 00 Praha 1
Czech Republic
ulbrecht at slu.cas.cz
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From zielinski at GMX.CH  Fri Sep 13 18:25:22 2013
From: zielinski at GMX.CH (Jan Zielinski)
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 20:25:22 +0200
Subject: Pride and Prejudice
In-Reply-To: <CAP-2WbwdpU6HP8ttqZahMqRog48F+J+TqDQXvcm68nuZk05oHA@mail.gmail.com>
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W dniu 2013-09-13 15:29, Marian Schwartz pisze:
> Well said, Robert.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Marian
>
My sentiments exactly

Jan

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From aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU  Fri Sep 13 20:53:18 2013
From: aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU (Alina Israeli)
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 16:53:18 -0400
Subject: Pride and Prejudice opening sentence in Russian
In-Reply-To: <37614F84-3BE7-44EC-BE5F-40A732D2FEF9@american.edu>
Message-ID: <FRI.13.SEP.2013.165318.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

It's been pointed out that I used a tautology. Not deliberate, just  
haste. One word could be changed:

Следует считать повсеместно признанным,

что холостой мужчина с приличным состоянием

очевидно нуждается в жене.


On Sep 12, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Alina Israeli wrote:

>
> I am accepting Michele's challenge.
>
> First, the English phrase has a cadence:
>
> “It is a truth universally acknowledged,
>
> that a single man in possession of a good fortune
>
> must be in need of a wife.”
>
>
> So I propose something along the lines of the following to preserve  
> it:
>
> Следует признать повсеместно признанным,
>
> что холостой мужчина с приличным состоянием
>
> очевидно нуждается в жене.
>
>
> Alina
>
> On Sep 12, 2013, at 9:48 AM, Michele A Berdy wrote:
>
>> I do hope some of our native Russian speakers and translators will  
>> chime in
>> here. Word order in sentences is such a tricky business. It's  
>> possible that
>> flipping the order as Gurova has done creates something closer to  
>> the effect
>> of the original. Maintaining the word order might make it flat and  
>> almost
>> bureaucratic. But I'm just guessing -- we need an expert opinion or  
>> two!
>>
>
> Alina Israeli
> Associate Professor of Russian
> WLC, American University
> 4400 Massachusetts Ave.
> Washington DC 20016
> (202) 885-2387 	fax (202) 885-1076
> aisrael at american.edu
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From colkitto at ROGERS.COM  Sat Sep 14 01:05:46 2013
From: colkitto at ROGERS.COM (Robert Orr)
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 21:05:46 -0400
Subject: Pride and Prejudice
In-Reply-To: <52335892.4070404@gmx.ch>
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Mine too

Sent from my iPad

On 2013-09-13, at 2:25 PM, Jan Zielinski <zielinski at GMX.CH> wrote:

> W dniu 2013-09-13 15:29, Marian Schwartz pisze:
>> Well said, Robert.
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> Marian
>> 
> My sentiments exactly
> 
> Jan
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From subhash.jaireth at GMAIL.COM  Sat Sep 14 05:23:29 2013
From: subhash.jaireth at GMAIL.COM (subhash.jaireth at GMAIL.COM)
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 15:23:29 +1000
Subject: SEELANGS Digest - 12 Sep 2013 to 13 Sep 2013 (#2013-378)
In-Reply-To: <SEELANGS%201309140000016745.0006@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>
Message-ID: <SAT.14.SEP.2013.152329.1000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Robert,

I think your anger at my comment is misdirected. Here is my complete post again:

I like Marshak's translation. It is simple, has pace and most importantly it raises expectation, wanting me to read more. Irina Gurova's seems more accurate but complicated. For me it doesn't work as an 'opening sentence'. But translation as we all know is never going to be perfect. It is like pouring water from one cup to another and of different sizes: leading either to spills or to under-fill. Or it is like an act of making love in which only one of the parties feels consummated.

I am merely stating that the art of translation is hard and to look for perfect translation or to judge one translation against another isn't quite right. They serve different and valuable purpose. That's all.
Translation however imperfect still provides a door to enter to another world. 


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From tore.nesset at UIT.NO  Sat Sep 14 05:26:16 2013
From: tore.nesset at UIT.NO (Nesset Tore)
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 05:26:16 +0000
Subject: Call for papers: Slavic Cognitive Linguistics Conference 2014
Message-ID: <SAT.14.SEP.2013.052616.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Dear Slavists,

It is a great pleasure to invite you all to submit abstracts for the upcoming Slavic Cognitive Linguistics Conference, which will take place at Harvard University in Boston/Cambridge, MASS, February 15-17, 2014.

Confirmed plenary speakers:

  *   Lera Boroditsky, University of California, San Diego
  *   Michael Flier, Harvard University
  *   Johanna Nichols, University of California, Berkeley

Notice that abstracts are invited for individual papers, as well as theme sessions. For detailed instructions regarding submissions, see the conference web page: http://slavic.fas.harvard.edu/scla/2014-conference

DEADLINE FOR SUBMISSION OF ABSTRACTS: OCTOBER 22, 2013.

Best wishes,
Tore Nesset
President of the Slavic Cognitive Linguistics Association

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From xrenovo at GMAIL.COM  Sat Sep 14 05:37:29 2013
From: xrenovo at GMAIL.COM (Sasha Spektor)
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 01:37:29 -0400
Subject: SEELANGS Digest - 12 Sep 2013 to 13 Sep 2013 (#2013-378)
In-Reply-To: <A5973DC7-55E2-4F56-B908-4166E4D90106@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.14.SEP.2013.013729.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

I couldn't agree with Subhash more.


On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 1:23 AM, <subhash.jaireth at gmail.com> wrote:

> Robert,
>
> I think your anger at my comment is misdirected. Here is my complete post
> again:
>
> I like Marshak's translation. It is simple, has pace and most importantly
> it raises expectation, wanting me to read more. Irina Gurova's seems more
> accurate but complicated. For me it doesn't work as an 'opening sentence'.
> But translation as we all know is never going to be perfect. It is like
> pouring water from one cup to another and of different sizes: leading
> either to spills or to under-fill. Or it is like an act of making love in
> which only one of the parties feels consummated.
>
> I am merely stating that the art of translation is hard and to look for
> perfect translation or to judge one translation against another isn't quite
> right. They serve different and valuable purpose. That's all.
> Translation however imperfect still provides a door to enter to another
> world.
>
>
> Subhash
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From paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM  Sat Sep 14 05:54:32 2013
From: paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM (Paul B. Gallagher)
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 01:54:32 -0400
Subject: SEELANGS Digest - 12 Sep 2013 to 13 Sep 2013 (#2013-378)
In-Reply-To: <A5973DC7-55E2-4F56-B908-4166E4D90106@gmail.com>
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subhash.jaireth at GMAIL.COM wrote:

> ...
>
> I am merely stating that the art of translation is hard and to look
> for perfect translation or to judge one translation against another
> isn't quite right. They serve different and valuable purpose. That's
> all. Translation however imperfect still provides a door to enter to
> another world.

I doubt that anyone here will argue with the point that translation is hard.

However, as in any field, it is reasonable for practitioners to debate 
the merits of various approaches, techniques, and proposed solutions. 
That's how the field develops into a high art. I find this discussion 
valuable, and I hope no one here will deprive us of their valuable 
insights either on this topic or on any future topic.

Your point that different solutions may be better suited to different 
purposes is well taken. That doesn't mean that discussion -- or even 
translation itself -- is pointless.

-- 
War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
--
Paul B. Gallagher
pbg translations, inc.
"Russian Translations That Read Like Originals"
http://pbg-translations.com

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From xrenovo at GMAIL.COM  Sat Sep 14 05:55:24 2013
From: xrenovo at GMAIL.COM (Sasha Spektor)
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 01:55:24 -0400
Subject: SEELANGS Digest - 12 Sep 2013 to 13 Sep 2013 (#2013-378)
In-Reply-To: <CAPRO7qsOSmtNR_ORC+Qth5ZyVYdNmtR3J0Yu9Duz90QNtytgkA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.14.SEP.2013.015524.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

And my sentiments exactly.  What I also can't quite comprehend is how
gamely everyone ganged up on Subhash for making an obvious and not too
complicated a point.  Has the art of translation fallen in such disrepute
that everyone needs to defend it no matter what the other side says?
Robert, as far as I understand, you are SEELANGS' favorite translator
(including yours truly), why would you feel so attacked by a statement that
seems quite reasonable?  Does it wound your translator's sensibility so
much to read that no translation is ever perfect?  Gandlevsky once said
that a translation is like a black and white photograph of the color
original.  Is that so inaccurate?  Does that mean that we should stop
translating?  And the others?  So happy to chime in!  Where's the buzz
police when you need it?

Yours truly,
Sasha Spektor




On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 1:37 AM, Sasha Spektor <xrenovo at gmail.com> wrote:

> I couldn't agree with Subhash more.
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 1:23 AM, <subhash.jaireth at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Robert,
>>
>> I think your anger at my comment is misdirected. Here is my complete post
>> again:
>>
>> I like Marshak's translation. It is simple, has pace and most importantly
>> it raises expectation, wanting me to read more. Irina Gurova's seems more
>> accurate but complicated. For me it doesn't work as an 'opening sentence'.
>> But translation as we all know is never going to be perfect. It is like
>> pouring water from one cup to another and of different sizes: leading
>> either to spills or to under-fill. Or it is like an act of making love in
>> which only one of the parties feels consummated.
>>
>> I am merely stating that the art of translation is hard and to look for
>> perfect translation or to judge one translation against another isn't quite
>> right. They serve different and valuable purpose. That's all.
>> Translation however imperfect still provides a door to enter to another
>> world.
>>
>>
>> Subhash
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From kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM  Sat Sep 14 06:03:07 2013
From: kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Robert Chandler)
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 07:03:07 +0100
Subject: SEELANGS Digest - 12 Sep 2013 to 13 Sep 2013 (#2013-378)
In-Reply-To: <A5973DC7-55E2-4F56-B908-4166E4D90106@gmail.com>
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Dear Subhash,

I am sorry I did not make myself clearer.   I am curious, not angry. As I often do on SEELANGS, I am asking a question!

People (of all levels of linguistic ability) just love repeating all the old lines: "Traduttore/tradittore"; "Poetry is what gets lost in translations"; etc.  Your post was a good example of this.  From the unsuprising discovery that a few people prove unable to write as well as Jane Austen at her very best, you leap to strange images of unsatisfactory lovemaking.  What I am asking is WHY so many people feel this need to make these sweeping and negative generalisations.

In answer to your new point, I don't see any reason not to "look for perfect translation or to judge one translation against another".  Though it should go without saying that perfection is not something one often finds in any realm of human achievement.

All the best,

Robert

> I think your anger at my comment is misdirected. Here is my complete post again:
> 
> I like Marshak's translation. It is simple, has pace and most importantly it raises expectation, wanting me to read more. Irina Gurova's seems more accurate but complicated. For me it doesn't work as an 'opening sentence'. But translation as we all know is never going to be perfect. It is like pouring water from one cup to another and of different sizes: leading either to spills or to under-fill. Or it is like an act of making love in which only one of the parties feels consummated.
> 
> I am merely stating that the art of translation is hard and to look for perfect translation or to judge one translation against another isn't quite right. They serve different and valuable purpose. That's all.
> Translation however imperfect still provides a door to enter to another world. 
> 
> 
> Subhash
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From kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM  Sat Sep 14 06:25:42 2013
From: kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Robert Chandler)
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 07:25:42 +0100
Subject: SEELANGS Digest - 12 Sep 2013 to 13 Sep 2013 (#2013-378)
In-Reply-To: <CAPRO7qun64gE+RZLoUgm_6cepQTyfc3X_L8Vp2pWZbVTV0R=rA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.14.SEP.2013.072542.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Dear Sasha,

> Robert, as far as I understand, you are SEELANGS' favorite translator (including yours truly), why would you feel so attacked by a statement that seems quite reasonable?  Does it wound your translator's sensibility so much to read that no translation is ever perfect?  Gandlevsky once said that a translation is like a black and white photograph of the color original.  Is that so inaccurate?  
Thank you very much, Sasha, for the compliment.  But I do feel that this image of the black and white photo suggests that we are setting the bar too low.  It is not a bad image and it is, of course, accurate as applied to many translations. But there are occasions when translators do better than this, and I certainly hope, at least sometimes, to do better than that myself.

To take 2 examples of translations I was able to include in my anthology of Russian short stories for Penguin Classics - I think that William Edgerton's translation of Leskov's 'Levsha' and the translation of Bunin's 'The Gentleman from San Francisco by Koteliansky, D.H.Lawrence and Leonard Woolf (!) are at least as good, if not better, than the originals.

All the best,

Robert





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From maberdy at GMAIL.COM  Sat Sep 14 13:48:28 2013
From: maberdy at GMAIL.COM (Michele A Berdy)
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 17:48:28 +0400
Subject: translation thread
Message-ID: <SAT.14.SEP.2013.174828.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Speaking for myself, for what it's worth (and other caveats), I took some
umbrage at Subhash's images of translation -- imperfect, incomplete,
unsatisfying, or overdone. As Robert asked - more nicely than I probably
would have - why, when there are many examples of extraordinary
translations, does the image of a translation as something -- almost
necessarily, by definition -- lesser, wanting, and inadequate still remain?

I don't think it's a matter of translation having fallen into such
disrepute. In most places and times it was never in repute. But mostly, in
my experience (more caveats), it remains profoundly misunderstood. After 20
years, my neighbors still think I just retype things in English. And my film
clients can't understand why I won't translate their contracts. It makes us
(me) touchy.

But I loved the versions of Austen's opening sentence. 



 

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From devilsbit06 at YAHOO.COM  Sat Sep 14 06:36:36 2013
From: devilsbit06 at YAHOO.COM (J P Maher)
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 23:36:36 -0700
Subject: SEELANGS Digest - 12 Sep 2013 to 13 Sep 2013 (#2013-378)
In-Reply-To: <D5CF7825-5977-43D8-B4EA-A1C135188581@dial.pipex.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.13.SEP.2013.233636.0700.JPMAHER@NEIU.EDU>

All
 
 
The Italian is "traduttori traditori"...
A text given to ten competent translators could result in ten acceptable translations, which no 
computer translation could manage.
 
j p maher
 

________________________________
 From: Robert Chandler <kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 1:03 AM
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] SEELANGS Digest - 12 Sep 2013 to 13 Sep 2013 (#2013-378)
  

Dear Subhash,

I am sorry I did not make myself clearer.   I am curious, not angry. As I often do on SEELANGS, I am asking a question!

People (of all levels of linguistic ability) just love repeating all the old lines: "Traduttore/tradittore"; "Poetry is what gets lost in translations"; etc.  Your post was a good example of this.  From the unsuprising discovery that a few people prove unable to write as well as Jane Austen at her very best, you leap to strange images of unsatisfactory lovemaking.  What I am asking is WHY so many people feel this need to make these sweeping and negative generalisations.

In answer to your new point, I don't see any reason not to "look for perfect translation or to judge one translation against another".  Though it should go without saying that perfection is not something one often finds in any realm of human achievement.

All the best,

Robert

> I think your anger at my comment is misdirected. Here is my complete post again:
> 
> I like Marshak's translation. It is simple, has pace and most importantly it raises expectation, wanting me to read more. Irina Gurova's seems more accurate but complicated. For me it doesn't work as an 'opening sentence'. But translation as we all know is never going to be perfect. It is like pouring water from one cup to another and of different sizes: leading either to spills or to under-fill. Or it is like an act of making love in which only one of the parties feels consummated.
> 
> I am merely stating that the art of translation is hard and to look for perfect translation or to judge one translation against another isn't quite right. They serve different and valuable purpose. That's all.
> Translation however imperfect still provides a door to enter to another world. 
> 
> 
> Subhash
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From: emilka at MAC.COM (Emily Saunders)
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 08:19:10 -0700
Subject: SEELANGS Digest - 12 Sep 2013 to 13 Sep 2013 (#2013-378)
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I'd sort of like to chime in on the occasional unexpected beauty of translations.  Once, goodness, several decades back when I was living in Vladivostok, a theater troupe came to town from somewhere in eastern California.  They had a production of Hamlet going in their hometown and had been invited by the theater in Vladi-k who were also staging Hamlet.  They put together a collaborative performance that ran for about a week.  Everyone and I mean practically everyone from both filfaks of the University where I was studying/working showed up, and it was an amazing thing.  The American Hamlet's lines were spoken in the original Shakespearean, and he was answered by a Russian Ophelia who gave voice to Pasternak's translation.  The flow was seamless and the interplay of language, centuries between the original and the translation, and the actors was amazing to watch and listen to.  Truly unique and I've never seen anything like it since.  

So translator's out there, yours is a noble work.  Keep debating the merits and bringing the magic!

Emily Saunders

P.S.  I also tend to like the Russian translations of Winnie-the-Pooh a tad better than the original.  Is that heresy?
  
On Sep 13, 2013, at 11:25 PM, Robert Chandler wrote:

> Dear Sasha,
> 
>> Robert, as far as I understand, you are SEELANGS' favorite translator (including yours truly), why would you feel so attacked by a statement that seems quite reasonable?  Does it wound your translator's sensibility so much to read that no translation is ever perfect?  Gandlevsky once said that a translation is like a black and white photograph of the color original.  Is that so inaccurate?  
> Thank you very much, Sasha, for the compliment.  But I do feel that this image of the black and white photo suggests that we are setting the bar too low.  It is not a bad image and it is, of course, accurate as applied to many translations. But there are occasions when translators do better than this, and I certainly hope, at least sometimes, to do better than that myself.
> 
> To take 2 examples of translations I was able to include in my anthology of Russian short stories for Penguin Classics - I think that William Edgerton's translation of Leskov's 'Levsha' and the translation of Bunin's 'The Gentleman from San Francisco by Koteliansky, D.H.Lawrence and Leonard Woolf (!) are at least as good, if not better, than the originals.
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Robert
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From sglebov at SMITH.EDU  Sat Sep 14 15:23:32 2013
From: sglebov at SMITH.EDU (Sergey Glebov)
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 15:23:32 +0000
Subject: Ab Imperio annual program 2014: Assemblage Points of the Imperial
 Situation: Places and Spaces of Diversity
Message-ID: <SAT.14.SEP.2013.152332.0000.SGLEBOV@SMITH.EDU>

Dear colleagues,

The editors of Ab Imperio are pleased to announce the Ab Imperio 2014 
annual theme Assemblage Points of the Imperial Situation: Places and 
Spaces of Diversity. The program of the volume is available in .pdf 
format.

In 2014, Ab Imperio invites its contributors and readers to examine the 
central category of new imperial history: the imperial situation. The 
coexisting and partially overlapping nomenclatures of social statuses 
and hierarchies of authority produce an irregular map of human diversity 
and hegemony, which can be discovered in virtually any epoch and 
society, “imperial” or “nation-state.” In this imperial situation, 
location can be exchanged for a different social status (say, a petty 
clerk from the capital becomes an important figure once he arrives in 
the borderlands or a colony); ethnicity and class generate different 
social capital in different situations or locations; and time is 
conditional and reversible (one can bomb people “into the stone age,” or 
propel them from primitive or feudal society all the way into 
socialism).

Numerous questions arise as soon as one projects this model onto 
specific case-study material: What is the relationship between the 
imperial situation and historical actors? Can we speak of a coherent 
imperial subject produced by the imperial situation? How exactly is the 
imperial situation “made?”

In order to avoid embedded explanatory strategies built into grand 
structuralist generalizations, we suggest operating with an open-ended 
middle-range theory category such as an “assemblage point.” Although it 
comes from the nonacademic sphere (namely, the visionary works of Carlos 
Castaneda), an “assemblage point” seems to be a quite neutral and 
“technical” wayto capture the very moment of forming an imperial 
situation – at a certain moment, under certain circumstances, from 
certain “building blocks.” It is possible that this notion can be 
productively used with the new analytical and rational connotations of 
new imperial history. More conventional (but not much more analytically 
clear) categories such as “bricolage” or “hybridity” can be revisited 
and overhauled in the pursuit of developing a language to describe the 
process of producing the imperial situation – between structurally more 
stable “spaces” and “places.”

Four thematic issues in this annual volume of Ab Imperio approach this 
task from different angles.

1/2014 Zeit und Raum: Adjacent Spaces, Overlapping Epochs?

Recipe number one: bring different worlds together, “mix, but do not 
stir.”


Neighboring communities or regions get incorporated into a common social 
and political sphere, on different legal, economic, and political terms; 
Multiple temporalities espoused by different social strata and cultural 
groups coexist, resulting in the incongruences of calendars, work 
rhythms, and perceptions of the past and future; Perceived or 
self-nominated “civilizations,” “worlds,” “socioeconomic formations,” 
and “cultures” become integrated into an all-embracing worldview, 
through an assortment of adapting institutional and discursive 
mechanisms; Individual trajectories across various social loci and 
temporalities “stitch them up” together; Historical turning points, 
junctures, and decisive events as formative experiences.
2/2014 Crossroads and Multiple Temporalities: Contact Zones and Middle 
Grounds

Recipe number two: strangers meeting in the “middle ground” in search of 
identity and common sense.


The city as a site of diversity, actualized and visualized: everyone is 
local, everyone is a newcomer; What mechanisms produce inequality in the 
inter-“minorities” relationships? How stable are the “conversion rates” 
between ethnicity and social status, wealth and territorial 
localization, education and state service? The nonessentialist 
understanding of collectivities as products of “magnetic fields” set by 
external factors and internal decisions; Thinking power without a clear 
subject in heterogeneous space: who rules the empire?
3/2014 Ghettos and Time Gaps (bezvremenie): Negativity as “the Moment of 
Truth”

The Test Case: Difference Being Produced Despite Isolation and Arrested 
Dynamics


Seemingly homogeneous societies and groups still generate situationally 
and contextually revealing differences: in a Jewish Ghetto, within a 
peasant community, or in a “stagnating” and stable “Developed Socialism” 
society; “The narcissism of small differences” as a historical mechanism 
of social demarcation at work in routine situations and egalitarian 
settings; How historical ruptures and “time capsules” make symbolic 
boundaries look bigger than life; The art of inventing differences: 
states, social groups, and the management of populations and statuses; 
Unintended consequences: projects of uniformity and the proliferation of 
differences.
4/2014 Spontaneous Bricolage, Masters of Assemblage, and Their Contested 
Blueprints

Assemblage Points Deconstructed: Who, When, and Why Attempted to 
Rationalize and Rearrange Diversity?


Social engineering as a conscious practice; How spontaneous are 
“hybridity,” “bricolage,” and premodern practices of composite 
identities? Seeing not like a nation-state: the history of certain 
schemes to sustain human diversity; Post-“isms” in their historical 
contexts: deconstructing deconstruction and social critique; The future 
of diversity.

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From af38 at COLUMBIA.EDU  Sat Sep 14 15:30:04 2013
From: af38 at COLUMBIA.EDU (Anna Frajlich-Zajac)
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 11:30:04 -0400
Subject: SEELANGS Digest - 12 Sep 2013 to 13 Sep 2013 (#2013-378)
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The production you described sounds like real magic: perfect co-r-respondence of languages and cultures.

Anna 

On Sep 14, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Emily Saunders <emilka at mac.com> wrote:

> I'd sort of like to chime in on the occasional unexpected beauty of translations.  Once, goodness, several decades back when I was living in Vladivostok, a theater troupe came to town from somewhere in eastern California.  They had a production of Hamlet going in their hometown and had been invited by the theater in Vladi-k who were also staging Hamlet.  They put together a collaborative performance that ran for about a week.  Everyone and I mean practically everyone from both filfaks of the University where I was studying/working showed up, and it was an amazing thing.  The American Hamlet's lines were spoken in the original Shakespearean, and he was answered by a Russian Ophelia who gave voice to Pasternak's translation.  The flow was seamless and the interplay of language, centuries between the original and the translation, and the actors was amazing to watch and listen to.  Truly unique and I've never seen anything like it since.  
> 
> So translator's out there, yours is a noble work.  Keep debating the merits and bringing the magic!
> 
> Emily Saunders
> 
> P.S.  I also tend to like the Russian translations of Winnie-the-Pooh a tad better than the original.  Is that heresy?
> 
> On Sep 13, 2013, at 11:25 PM, Robert Chandler wrote:
> 
>> Dear Sasha,
>> 
>>> Robert, as far as I understand, you are SEELANGS' favorite translator (including yours truly), why would you feel so attacked by a statement that seems quite reasonable?  Does it wound your translator's sensibility so much to read that no translation is ever perfect?  Gandlevsky once said that a translation is like a black and white photograph of the color original.  Is that so inaccurate?  
>> Thank you very much, Sasha, for the compliment.  But I do feel that this image of the black and white photo suggests that we are setting the bar too low.  It is not a bad image and it is, of course, accurate as applied to many translations. But there are occasions when translators do better than this, and I certainly hope, at least sometimes, to do better than that myself.
>> 
>> To take 2 examples of translations I was able to include in my anthology of Russian short stories for Penguin Classics - I think that William Edgerton's translation of Leskov's 'Levsha' and the translation of Bunin's 'The Gentleman from San Francisco by Koteliansky, D.H.Lawrence and Leonard Woolf (!) are at least as good, if not better, than the originals.
>> 
>> All the best,
>> 
>> Robert
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Robert Chandler, 42 Milson Road, London, W14 OLD
>> 
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From bliss.mst at GMAIL.COM  Sat Sep 14 16:36:26 2013
From: bliss.mst at GMAIL.COM (Liv Bliss)
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 11:36:26 -0500
Subject: Pride and Prejudice
Message-ID: <SAT.14.SEP.2013.113626.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Not to pile on, but... When I read that translation could be likened to "an act of making love in which only one of the parties feels consummated," it occurred to me that someone must have been doing it wrong.

Regards to all
Liv

***************
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ATA-Certified Russian to English Translator
tel.: (928) 367 1615

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From psyling at YMAIL.COM  Sat Sep 14 17:09:20 2013
From: psyling at YMAIL.COM (Psy Ling)
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 10:09:20 -0700
Subject: "Psychology of Language Learning=?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=9D?=
In-Reply-To: <96575C78-6466-4D17-9853-B70F4D89287B@columbia.edu>
Message-ID: <SAT.14.SEP.2013.100920.0700.PSYLING@YMAIL.COM>

INVITATION TO WRITE AN ARTICLE
            This is an Invitation to write a
small article about psychology of learning.
            The American Association of teachers
of Slavic and East European Languages (AATSEEL http://www.aatseel.org) publishes a column "Psychology of Language Learning” in its membership newsletter http://www.aatseel.org/publications/newsletter/  which I edit.
            I would like to invite you to make a
contribution to this column. Your article may deal with any aspect of your
research interests that falls under the title of “Psychology of Learning.” 
Contributions
to the Newsletter should be round 800 words; in exceptional cases, up to
1200 words (6,500-8,000 characters) is possible, depending on availability of
space in any given issue. This is around one page and a half. Only. Simple
language, not more than two references. Two or three simple and interesting
ideas which may be of use to those who teach Slavic languages.
            Please respond to “Valeri Belianine”
<russianforyou at gmail.com>

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From kalbouss at MAC.COM  Sat Sep 14 18:50:21 2013
From: kalbouss at MAC.COM (George Kalbouss)
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 14:50:21 -0400
Subject: SEELANGS Digest - 12 Sep 2013 to 13 Sep 2013 (#2013-378)
In-Reply-To: <96575C78-6466-4D17-9853-B70F4D89287B@columbia.edu>
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Years ago, I remember a production of "Faust" at the (then) Kirov Opera.  The entire
cast sang in Russia, but the diva singing the Margarita part sang in her native Latvian.
It all worked very smoothly, except for the scene where Faust eavesdrops on a soliloquy by
Margarita.  Faust then confesses to Mephistopheles that he heard everything, and
the only thought I had was, "so you know Latvian?"  Somehow I couldn't get that idea
out of my mind.

George Kalbouss
The Ohio State University


On Sep 14, 2013, at 11:30 AM, Anna Frajlich-Zajac wrote:

> The production you described sounds like real magic: perfect co-r-respondence of languages and cultures.
> 
> Anna 
> 
> On Sep 14, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Emily Saunders <emilka at mac.com> wrote:
> 
>> I'd sort of like to chime in on the occasional unexpected beauty of translations.  Once, goodness, several decades back when I was living in Vladivostok, a theater troupe came to town from somewhere in eastern California.  They had a production of Hamlet going in their hometown and had been invited by the theater in Vladi-k who were also staging Hamlet.  They put together a collaborative performance that ran for about a week.  Everyone and I mean practically everyone from both filfaks of the University where I was studying/working showed up, and it was an amazing thing.  The American Hamlet's lines were spoken in the original Shakespearean, and he was answered by a Russian Ophelia who gave voice to Pasternak's translation.  The flow was seamless and the interplay of language, centuries between the original and the translation, and the actors was amazing to watch and listen to.  Truly unique and I've never seen anything like it since.  
>> 
>> So translator's out there, yours is a noble work.  Keep debating the merits and bringing the magic!
>> 
>> Emily Saunders
>> 
>> P.S.  I also tend to like the Russian translations of Winnie-the-Pooh a tad better than the original.  Is that heresy?
>> 
>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 11:25 PM, Robert Chandler wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear Sasha,
>>> 
>>>> Robert, as far as I understand, you are SEELANGS' favorite translator (including yours truly), why would you feel so attacked by a statement that seems quite reasonable?  Does it wound your translator's sensibility so much to read that no translation is ever perfect?  Gandlevsky once said that a translation is like a black and white photograph of the color original.  Is that so inaccurate?  
>>> Thank you very much, Sasha, for the compliment.  But I do feel that this image of the black and white photo suggests that we are setting the bar too low.  It is not a bad image and it is, of course, accurate as applied to many translations. But there are occasions when translators do better than this, and I certainly hope, at least sometimes, to do better than that myself.
>>> 
>>> To take 2 examples of translations I was able to include in my anthology of Russian short stories for Penguin Classics - I think that William Edgerton's translation of Leskov's 'Levsha' and the translation of Bunin's 'The Gentleman from San Francisco by Koteliansky, D.H.Lawrence and Leonard Woolf (!) are at least as good, if not better, than the originals.
>>> 
>>> All the best,
>>> 
>>> Robert
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Robert Chandler, 42 Milson Road, London, W14 OLD
>>> 
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From kalbouss at MAC.COM  Sat Sep 14 18:53:41 2013
From: kalbouss at MAC.COM (George Kalbouss)
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 14:53:41 -0400
Subject: SEELANGS Digest - 12 Sep 2013 to 13 Sep 2013 (#2013-378)--
 oops
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Sorry for the typo.  I meant he "sang in Russian."  Of course he was in Russia.

GK
On Sep 14, 2013, at 2:50 PM, George Kalbouss wrote:

> Years ago, I remember a production of "Faust" at the (then) Kirov Opera.  The entire
> cast sang in Russia, but the diva singing the Margarita part sang in her native Latvian.
> It all worked very smoothly, except for the scene where Faust eavesdrops on a soliloquy by
> Margarita.  Faust then confesses to Mephistopheles that he heard everything, and
> the only thought I had was, "so you know Latvian?"  Somehow I couldn't get that idea
> out of my mind.
> 
> George Kalbouss
> The Ohio State University
> 
> 
> On Sep 14, 2013, at 11:30 AM, Anna Frajlich-Zajac wrote:
> 
>> The production you described sounds like real magic: perfect co-r-respondence of languages and cultures.
>> 
>> Anna 
>> 
>> On Sep 14, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Emily Saunders <emilka at mac.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I'd sort of like to chime in on the occasional unexpected beauty of translations.  Once, goodness, several decades back when I was living in Vladivostok, a theater troupe came to town from somewhere in eastern California.  They had a production of Hamlet going in their hometown and had been invited by the theater in Vladi-k who were also staging Hamlet.  They put together a collaborative performance that ran for about a week.  Everyone and I mean practically everyone from both filfaks of the University where I was studying/working showed up, and it was an amazing thing.  The American Hamlet's lines were spoken in the original Shakespearean, and he was answered by a Russian Ophelia who gave voice to Pasternak's translation.  The flow was seamless and the interplay of language, centuries between the original and the translation, and the actors was amazing to watch and listen to.  Truly unique and I've never seen anything like it since.  
>>> 
>>> So translator's out there, yours is a noble work.  Keep debating the merits and bringing the magic!
>>> 
>>> Emily Saunders
>>> 
>>> P.S.  I also tend to like the Russian translations of Winnie-the-Pooh a tad better than the original.  Is that heresy?
>>> 
>>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 11:25 PM, Robert Chandler wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Dear Sasha,
>>>> 
>>>>> Robert, as far as I understand, you are SEELANGS' favorite translator (including yours truly), why would you feel so attacked by a statement that seems quite reasonable?  Does it wound your translator's sensibility so much to read that no translation is ever perfect?  Gandlevsky once said that a translation is like a black and white photograph of the color original.  Is that so inaccurate?  
>>>> Thank you very much, Sasha, for the compliment.  But I do feel that this image of the black and white photo suggests that we are setting the bar too low.  It is not a bad image and it is, of course, accurate as applied to many translations. But there are occasions when translators do better than this, and I certainly hope, at least sometimes, to do better than that myself.
>>>> 
>>>> To take 2 examples of translations I was able to include in my anthology of Russian short stories for Penguin Classics - I think that William Edgerton's translation of Leskov's 'Levsha' and the translation of Bunin's 'The Gentleman from San Francisco by Koteliansky, D.H.Lawrence and Leonard Woolf (!) are at least as good, if not better, than the originals.
>>>> 
>>>> All the best,
>>>> 
>>>> Robert
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Robert Chandler, 42 Milson Road, London, W14 OLD
>>>> 
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From russellv at INDIANA.EDU  Sat Sep 14 19:36:34 2013
From: russellv at INDIANA.EDU (Valentino, Russell Scott)
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 19:36:34 +0000
Subject: SEELANGS Digest - 12 Sep 2013 to 13 Sep 2013 (#2013-378)
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Just for a little variety, since these sorts of discussions often go
around in circles, translation studies offers what seems to me a more
productive way of thinking about this set of problems. For instance, the
many metaphors (and there are many) about the inadequacy, incompleteness,
etc. of a translation vis-a-vis its source proceed from a usually
unarticulated assumption about the purpose of translation in general,
namely, that it is somehow supposed to pick up a text in all its
complexity and situatedness in the source context and carry it across into
some new context intact. This is as impossible as picking up the
translation, which has in the process acquired a new set of associations
in the receiving culture, and putting it back into the source context
intact. It's fun to come up with metaphors for this impossible feat, but
once the unarticulated assumption behind it is laid bare, the observation
comes to seem rather banal, even if the metaphors might be colorful -- the
color photograph, perfect sex for all parties, and so on.

This particular assumption about the purpose or aims of translation is
just one among many. There are as many possible purposes for translations
as there are audiences for them. How translations mean different things
for different audiences in different times and places -- which includes
the new sounds, resonances, associations, and power that they gain in the
process of crossing -- is always more interesting than what they might
lose.

Russell

________________________________________

Russell Scott Valentino
Professor and Chair
Slavic Languages and Literatures <http://www.indiana.edu/~iuslavic/>
Indiana University
503 Ballantine Hall
Bloomington, IN 47405
(812) 855-3272




On 9/14/13 2:25 AM, "Robert Chandler" <kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM> wrote:

>Dear Sasha,
>
>> Robert, as far as I understand, you are SEELANGS' favorite translator
>>(including yours truly), why would you feel so attacked by a statement
>>that seems quite reasonable?  Does it wound your translator's
>>sensibility so much to read that no translation is ever perfect?
>>Gandlevsky once said that a translation is like a black and white
>>photograph of the color original.  Is that so inaccurate?
>Thank you very much, Sasha, for the compliment.  But I do feel that this
>image of the black and white photo suggests that we are setting the bar
>too low.  It is not a bad image and it is, of course, accurate as applied
>to many translations. But there are occasions when translators do better
>than this, and I certainly hope, at least sometimes, to do better than
>that myself.
>
>To take 2 examples of translations I was able to include in my anthology
>of Russian short stories for Penguin Classics - I think that William
>Edgerton's translation of Leskov's 'Levsha' and the translation of
>Bunin's 'The Gentleman from San Francisco by Koteliansky, D.H.Lawrence
>and Leonard Woolf (!) are at least as good, if not better, than the
>originals.
>
>All the best,
>
>Robert
>
>
>
>
>
>Robert Chandler, 42 Milson Road, London, W14 OLD
>
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From subhash.jaireth at GMAIL.COM  Sun Sep 15 00:27:31 2013
From: subhash.jaireth at GMAIL.COM (Subhash Jaireth)
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 10:27:31 +1000
Subject: Pride and Prejudice and Translation
Message-ID: <SUN.15.SEP.2013.102731.1000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Hi All,

Just one last point.
My approach to translation is from the point of view of a writer and a poet
(I have published three collections of poetry and two works of prose
fiction). I have also done Russian to English, English to Russia (just a
few) Hindi to English and English to Hindi translations.
Recently at a conference of Creative Writing I gave a very brief paper
discussing two translations of Mandel'shtam's poem. One translation was by
Clarence Brown and the other done as a collaboration with an Australian
poet. Reading English translations of Mandel'shtam I always miss the
beautiful sonority of Mandel'shtam's Russian, and not only because the
original verse is rhymed. In my talk before I read the poem in the original
before reading each of the translation. I ended my talk with this brief
remark:
My aim is not to force my readers to decide which of the two translations
is better, but to draw attention on their complimentary nature. To me they
appear like two good friends engaged in a heart-to-heart conversation.
As you see, my aim is not to denigrate the art of translation or to put
limits on discussing the art of translation but to highlight that all
translations matter. In fact we need to translate more and more and have as
many translations of the same text as possible.
I am sorry for offending some of you with my brash intervention. I do
apologise and would be more careful in future.

Best wishes,

Subhash


-- 
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45 Noala Street, Aranda
ACT 2614, Australia
(02) 62517438
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From kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM  Sun Sep 15 04:35:31 2013
From: kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Robert Chandler)
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 05:35:31 +0100
Subject: Pride and Prejudice and Translation
In-Reply-To: <CAPf8EzpKDtMff8kVcfnsB-MTuq7LEK5cupRcW-yZAk8Lpo7Vpg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SUN.15.SEP.2013.053531.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

I am about to go away for a week, and will be away from email, so I won't be saying any more about any of this for a while!

But thank you, Subhash, for this last message.  And it is of course true that most translations of Mandelstam are less remarkable than the originals.

All the best,

Robert




On 15 Sep 2013, at 01:27, Subhash Jaireth <subhash.jaireth at GMAIL.COM> wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> Just one last point.
> My approach to translation is from the point of view of a writer and a poet (I have published three collections of poetry and two works of prose fiction). I have also done Russian to English, English to Russia (just a few) Hindi to English and English to Hindi translations.
> Recently at a conference of Creative Writing I gave a very brief paper discussing two translations of Mandel'shtam's poem. One translation was by Clarence Brown and the other done as a collaboration with an Australian poet. Reading English translations of Mandel'shtam I always miss the beautiful sonority of Mandel'shtam's Russian, and not only because the original verse is rhymed. In my talk before I read the poem in the original before reading each of the translation. I ended my talk with this brief remark:
> My aim is not to force my readers to decide which of the two translations is better, but to draw attention on their complimentary nature. To me they appear like two good friends engaged in a heart-to-heart conversation.
> As you see, my aim is not to denigrate the art of translation or to put limits on discussing the art of translation but to highlight that all translations matter. In fact we need to translate more and more and have as many translations of the same text as possible.
> I am sorry for offending some of you with my brash intervention. I do apologise and would be more careful in future.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Subhash
>   
> 
> -- 
> Subhash Jaireth
> 45 Noala Street, Aranda
> ACT 2614, Australia
> (02) 62517438
> http://sites.google.com/site/subhashjaireth/
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From ameliede at EARTHLINK.NET  Sun Sep 15 05:40:12 2013
From: ameliede at EARTHLINK.NET (Jules Levin)
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 22:40:12 -0700
Subject: translation thread
In-Reply-To: <00a301ceb151$1888f820$499ae860$@gmail.com>
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A feat of the translator's art that no computer could match:

Nabokov's rendering of Lewis Carrol's "reeling and writhing" as the 
curriculum in the Walrus's school for oysters:
chesat' i pitat'
This is an improvement--"grooming and feeding" is more sea-critterish 
than reeling and writhing...
Jules Levin

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From paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM  Sun Sep 15 07:20:06 2013
From: paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM (Paul B. Gallagher)
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 03:20:06 -0400
Subject: translation thread
In-Reply-To: <5235483C.2060700@earthlink.net>
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Jules Levin wrote:

> A feat of the translator's art that no computer could match:
>
> Nabokov's rendering of Lewis Carrol's "reeling and writhing" as the
> curriculum in the Walrus's school for oysters:
> chesat' i pitat'
> This is an improvement--"grooming and feeding" is more sea-critterish
> than reeling and writhing...

Perhaps.

But it does have the added bonus that "reeling and writhing" sounds 
almost like "reading and writing," and "чесать и питать" sounds almost 
like "читать и писать." In each case, those echoed subjects are 
plausible elements of a school curriculum.

-- 
War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
--
Paul B. Gallagher
pbg translations, inc.
"Russian Translations That Read Like Originals"
http://pbg-translations.com

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From mollyvellacott at HOTMAIL.COM  Sun Sep 15 07:43:34 2013
From: mollyvellacott at HOTMAIL.COM (Molly Vellacott)
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 08:43:34 +0100
Subject: translation thread
In-Reply-To: <52355FA6.6030702@pbg-translations.com>
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I read this list assiduously but never reply. Moved to do so by ire on behalf of Lewis Carrol. It cannot be allowed that "grooming and feeding is more sea-critterish than reeling and writhing." The aquatic nature of the movement implied by these words is clear, the image beautiful and eerie. Where Nabokov has succeeded is in reproducing the almost exact phonic match with "reading and writing." Great example of the fact that it is often impossible to translate poetry whilst maintaining every connotation, however skilled/ willing/ poetically imaginative the translator.


On 15 Sep 2013, at 08:20, "Paul B. Gallagher" <paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM> wrote:

> Jules Levin wrote:
> 
>> A feat of the translator's art that no computer could match:
>> 
>> Nabokov's rendering of Lewis Carrol's "reeling and writhing" as the
>> curriculum in the Walrus's school for oysters:
>> chesat' i pitat'
>> This is an improvement--"grooming and feeding" is more sea-critterish
>> than reeling and writhing...
> 
> Perhaps.
> 
> But it does have the added bonus that "reeling and writhing" sounds almost like "reading and writing," and "чесать и питать" sounds almost like "читать и писать." In each case, those echoed subjects are plausible elements of a school curriculum.
> 
> -- 
> War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
> --
> Paul B. Gallagher
> pbg translations, inc.
> "Russian Translations That Read Like Originals"
> http://pbg-translations.com
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From culik at BLISTY.CZ  Sun Sep 15 10:23:03 2013
From: culik at BLISTY.CZ (Jan Culik)
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 05:23:03 -0500
Subject: CALL FOR PAPERS:
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CALL FOR PAPERS:
 “Karel Kosík and Dialectics of the Concrete”. 
 Prague, 4– 6 June 2014

A conference organised by the Department for the Study of Modern Czech Philosophy,
Institute of Philosophy, Academy of Sciences of the Czech Republic.

In 1963 Karel Kosík published his path-breaking book Dialectics of the Concrete. It made an
impact on both Marxist and non-Marxist thinkers, in Czechoslovakia and throughout the
world. In this work Kosík set for himself an ambitious task – to re-think the basic concepts of
the Marxist philosophical tradition and to employ them in the analysis of social reality. In the
course of his analysis he touched on a wide array of issues that are still relevant today,
including the problem of mystification or the “pseudo-concrete,” the social role of art, the
conception of reality as a concrete totality, the conception of the human being as an onto-
formative being, the systematic connection between labour and temporality, the
relationship between praxis and labour, and the explanatory power of the dialectical
method.

We would like to explore Kosík ́s seminal work in both breadth and depth. To that end, we
welcome papers addressing the following topics:


• Kosík in dialogue with other thinkers, such as Hegel, Marx, Labriola, Gramsci,
Lukács, Heidegger, Marcuse, Popper, Gonseth, and Weber.
• Kosík ́s response to other currents of thought, especially phenomenology,
structuralism, existentialism, critical theory, and positivism.
• Kosík’s work in relation to other varieties of Marxist humanism.
• Dialectics of the Concrete in the context of Kosík ́s overall philosophical œuvre.
• Dialectics of the Concrete and its influence on political theory, aesthetics,
theology, cultural anthropology, sociology, pedagogy, and other fields.
• The reception and critique of Kosík ́s Dialectics of the Concrete in different parts
of the world, such as East-Central Europe; in Germany, Italy, Russia, and
Scandinavia; the Anglophone, Francophone, Hispanophone, and Lusophone
worlds; China, Japan, and other countries in Asia.

Papers addressing other topics related to Kosík's work are also welcome.

The conference will be conducted in English. Proposals – including a title and an abstract of
100 – 200 words – should be sent by 31 December 2013 to landa at flu.cas.cz. Submissions
must be in .doc or .rtf format. Notice of acceptance will be sent by 30 January 2014. A
conference fee of 100 Euros (60 Euros for students) will cover the costs of organising the
conference (including conference accessories and coffee breaks). Details about the method
of payment will be announced after abstract acceptance. The conference proceedings will be
published as a book in 2015.

Organisers: Ivan Landa, Jan Mervart, Joseph Grim Feinberg

International Organising Committee: Johann P. Arnason, Peter Hudis, Joseph G. Feinberg,
Ivan Landa, Michael Löwy, Jan Mervart, Francesco Tava

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From dmarsh1219 at YAHOO.COM  Sun Sep 15 15:52:23 2013
From: dmarsh1219 at YAHOO.COM (Douglas Marshall)
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 08:52:23 -0700
Subject: Excellent articles on Dostoevsky and Salinger
Message-ID: <SUN.15.SEP.2013.085223.0700.DMARSH1219@YAHOO.COM>

I read with great interest Reed Johnson's article dated September 11 in the New Yorker entitled "If Holden Caulfield Spoke Russian" (http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/books/2013/09/translating-catcher-in-the-rye-if-holden-caulfield-spoke-russian.html). Since then it came to my attention that my former Russian professor Michael R. Katz, who has translated a dozen Russian novels into English, published an article last year in the Southwest Review, volume 97, number 4, (http://smu.edu/southwestreview/BackIssues.asp), entitled "The Fiery Furnace of Doubt", an excellent comparative discussion of faith and atheism in the works of Salinger and Dostoevsky. I heartily recommend both articles to all, especially Russian-English translators. 

Douglas Marshall


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From emilka at MAC.COM  Sun Sep 15 19:19:08 2013
From: emilka at MAC.COM (Emily Saunders)
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 12:19:08 -0700
Subject: translation thread
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Greetings!

So I know that this is not crucial to the topic of translation, but as a lifetime lover of Carroll (and a reciter of "The Walrus and the Carpenter" at family gatherings), I was bugged most by the factual error in this discussion:  The *Walrus* of "Through the Looking Glass" fame did not hold a school for oysters.  His relationship to the oysters in "Through the Looking Glass" was to trick them into being eaten (after talking about the oft quoted "shoes and ships and sealing wax...").  It was the Mock Turtle in "Alice in Wonderland" who studied "reeling and writing" in his long ago youth under the tutelage of an old Turtle school master.  

And with regards to translation:  Mr. Gallagher hits it on the nose that the main point in translating this passage is to come up with possible subjects of study that *sound* similar to what you might study in a human school, but are different in ways humorous and appropriate, more or less, for sea creatures.  For those who have not recently read the entire passage, the Mock Turtle describes a curriculum that included:  "...the different branches of Arithmetic — Ambition, Distraction, Uglification, and Derision...Mystery, ancient and modern, with Seaography...Drawling, Stretching, and Fainting in Coils."  The wordplay is obvious and to omit that aspect in a translation would be to pretty much omit the entire point of the passage.  Coming up with behaviors appropriate to sea creatures is secondary (as in "uglification" and "derision").  

Regards,

Emily Saunders

On Sep 15, 2013, at 12:20 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

> Jules Levin wrote:
> 
>> A feat of the translator's art that no computer could match:
>> 
>> Nabokov's rendering of Lewis Carrol's "reeling and writhing" as the
>> curriculum in the Walrus's school for oysters:
>> chesat' i pitat'
>> This is an improvement--"grooming and feeding" is more sea-critterish
>> than reeling and writhing...
> 
> Perhaps.
> 
> But it does have the added bonus that "reeling and writhing" sounds almost like "reading and writing," and "чесать и питать" sounds almost like "читать и писать." In each case, those echoed subjects are plausible elements of a school curriculum.
> 
> -- 
> War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
> --
> Paul B. Gallagher
> pbg translations, inc.
> "Russian Translations That Read Like Originals"
> http://pbg-translations.com
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From ameliede at EARTHLINK.NET  Sun Sep 15 19:27:52 2013
From: ameliede at EARTHLINK.NET (Jules Levin)
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 12:27:52 -0700
Subject: translation thread
In-Reply-To: <A557D9E1-FD29-4E98-8B18-1ECA3DAAC054@mac.com>
Message-ID: <SUN.15.SEP.2013.122752.0700.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

On 9/15/2013 12:19 PM, Emily Saunders wrote:
> Greetings!
>
> So I know that this is not crucial to the topic of translation, but as a lifetime lover of Carroll (and a reciter of "The Walrus and the Carpenter" at family gatherings), I was bugged most by the factual error in this discussion:
Ouch!  mea culpa...
But who was it who said academic disputes were so heated because the 
stakes are so low?  (or a I misquoting again...?)
Jules Levin




>   The *Walrus* of "Through the Looking Glass" fame did not hold a school for oysters.  His relationship to the oysters in "Through the Looking Glass" was to trick them into being eaten (after talking about the oft quoted "shoes and ships and sealing wax...").  It was the Mock Turtle in "Alice in Wonderland" who studied "reeling and writing" in his long ago youth under the tutelage of an old Turtle school master.
>
> And with regards to translation:  Mr. Gallagher hits it on the nose that the main point in translating this passage is to come up with possible subjects of study that *sound* similar to what you might study in a human school, but are different in ways humorous and appropriate, more or less, for sea creatures.  For those who have not recently read the entire passage, the Mock Turtle describes a curriculum that included:  "...the different branches of Arithmetic — Ambition, Distraction, Uglification, and Derision...Mystery, ancient and modern, with Seaography...Drawling, Stretching, and Fainting in Coils."  The wordplay is obvious and to omit that aspect in a translation would be to pretty much omit the entire point of the passage.  Coming up with behaviors appropriate to sea creatures is secondary (as in "uglification" and "derision").
>
> Regards,
>
> Emily Saunders
>
> On Sep 15, 2013, at 12:20 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>
>    
>> Jules Levin wrote:
>>
>>      
>>> A feat of the translator's art that no computer could match:
>>>
>>> Nabokov's rendering of Lewis Carrol's "reeling and writhing" as the
>>> curriculum in the Walrus's school for oysters:
>>> chesat' i pitat'
>>> This is an improvement--"grooming and feeding" is more sea-critterish
>>> than reeling and writhing...
>>>        
>> Perhaps.
>>
>> But it does have the added bonus that "reeling and writhing" sounds almost like "reading and writing," and "чесать и питать" sounds almost like "читать и писать." In each case, those echoed subjects are plausible elements of a school curriculum.
>>
>> -- 
>> War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
>> --
>> Paul B. Gallagher
>> pbg translations, inc.
>> "Russian Translations That Read Like Originals"
>> http://pbg-translations.com
>>
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From parmelee at UMICH.EDU  Mon Sep 16 01:22:34 2013
From: parmelee at UMICH.EDU (Donna Parmelee)
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 21:22:34 -0400
Subject: Carl Proffer/Ardis Symposium,
 University of Michigan (September 20-21, 2013)
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ANN ARBOR IN RUSSIAN LITERATURE: REVISITING THE CARL R. PROFFER AND ARDIS
LEGACIES
A Symposium at the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
September 20-21, 2013

This symposium commemorates the 75th anniversary of the birth of University
of Michigan Professor of Slavic Languages and Literatures Carl R. Proffer
(1938-84).

Together with his wife Ellendea, Carl Proffer launched Ardis Publishers
(1971-2002) and the RUSSIAN LITERATURE TRIQUARTERLY (1971-91), establishing
Ann Arbor as home to the foremost Western publisher of Russian and Soviet
literature of its day.

Symposium presenters will reflect on Proffer’s and Ardis’ contributions to
Russian literature and culture and Russian-American relations and on U-M’s
rich legacy as a center for the study of dissent in the Soviet Union and as
a refuge for Soviet writers and artists (including Joseph Brodsky,
poet-in-residence at U-M, 1972-1981).

WEBSITE: www.ii.umich.edu/crees/events/specialevents/proffertribute
WEB LINK TO LIVE STREAMING VIDEO (Workshop and Tribute):
ummedia11.adsroot.itcs.umich.edu/itsComm/weiser.html

SYMPOSIUM SCHEDULE

WORKSHOP | ARDIS PUBLISHERS AND THE RUSSIAN LITERARY CANON

Friday, September 20
2:00-5:00 pm - Koessler Room, Michigan League

Opening Remarks:
OLGA MAIOROVA, CREES director and associate professor of Slavic languages
and literatures, University of Michigan

Moderator:
MICHAEL MAKIN, professor of Slavic languages and literatures, University of
Michigan

Presenters:
ALEXANDER DOLININ, professor of Slavic languages and literature, University
of Wisconsin
“Proffer and Nabokov Revisited”

DENIS KOZLOV, associate professor of Russian history, Dalhousie University
“At the Twilight of the Thaw: Soviet Literature and Society during the Late
1960s”

MARK LIPOVETSKY, professor of Russian studies, University of Colorado
Boulder
“Ardis’ Vision of Contemporary Russian Literature: Thirty Years Later”

ANDREW REYNOLDS, associate professor of Slavic languages and literature,
University of Wisconsin
“Mission, Omissions, Missives to the Future: The Ardis Atlas of
Contemporary Russian Literature”

Discussants:
NATALIE MCCAULEY, Ph.D. student in Slavic languages and literatures,
University of Michigan
SARAH SUTTER, Ph.D. candidate in Slavic languages and literatures,
University of Michigan

TRIBUTE | ANN ARBOR ON THE MAP OF RUSSIAN LITERATURE: A TRIBUTE TO CARL R.
PROFFER
Saturday, September 21
1:00-5:30 pm, Rackham Amphitheatre

Introduction:
OLGA MAIOROVA, CREES director and associate professor of Slavic languages
and literatures, University of Michigan

Presenters:
ROBERT G. KAISER, associate editor and former Moscow bureau chief, The
Washington Post
“Ardis and the Preservation of Optimism”

BARBARA HELDT, professor emerita of Russian and women’s studies, University
of British Columbia
“Larger than Life: Beginnings and Significance of Ardis”

GERALD S. SMITH, professor emeritus of Russian, University of Oxford
“Ardis: A British View”

ALEXEI TSVETKOV, poet and essayist
“Ardis Publishers: My Personal Gateway into Russian Literature”

IRINA PROKHOROVA, literary critic, cultural historian, and head of the New
Literary Observer magazine and publishing house
“Russian Literature according to Ardis: A Present-day Publisher’s
Perspective”

ELLENDEA PROFFER TEASLEY, co-founder of Ardis Publishers and MacArthur
Fellow
“Carl Proffer and the Why of Ardis”

Editors/Translators/Friends Roundtable:
NANCY BEARDSLEY, RACHEL IZRINA, WILLIAM KALVIN, RONALD MEYER, FRED MOODY,
TATIANA NIKOLSKAYA, CHRISTINE RYDEL, and MARY ANN SZPORLUK

EXHIBIT | ARDIS: SAFE HOUSE ON RUSSIA’S LITERARY UNDERGROUND RAILWAY

Friday, September 20 & Saturday, September 21
10:30 am-12:30 pm; Stephen S. Clark Library, Harlan Hatcher Graduate
Library (2nd Floor S)

Items on display from the University Library’s Ardis Archive

Curated by JANET CRAYNE, Librarian, Slavic, East European, and Eurasian
Collection, and KATHLEEN DOW, Head, Archives Unit, Special Collections
Library

UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN SPONSORS: Center for Russian, East European, and
Eurasian Studies; Weiser Center for Emerging Democracies; Department of
Slavic Languages and Literatures; College of Literature, Science, and the
Arts; Department of Comparative Literature; Department of English;
Department of History; Eisenberg Institute of Historical Studies; Institute
for the Humanities; International Institute; Office of the Vice President
for Research; University Library’s Slavic, East European, and Eurasian
Collection and Special Collections Library; and Zell Visiting Writers
Series;

Olga Maiorova
Center for Russian, East European, and Eurasian Studies
Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures
University of Michigan
crees at umich.edu

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From rar at SLAVIC.UMASS.EDU  Mon Sep 16 02:26:39 2013
From: rar at SLAVIC.UMASS.EDU (Robert A. Rothstein)
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 22:26:39 -0400
Subject: translation thread
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I prefer Boris Zakhoder's "Chikhat' i Pikhat'" and his version of 
Carroll's "different branches of arithmetic-ambition, distraction, 
uglification, and derision”: "Pochitanie, Uvazhenie, Davlenie i 
Iskazhenie" (i.e., vychitanie, slozhenie, delenie i umnozhenie). And 
then there's his version of the Gryphon's explanation of why lessons 
were shorter every day: "A s nashimi uchiteliami inache ne 
poluchalos'... Tekuchii sostav: kazhdyi den' kto-nibud' propadal. 
Poetomu ikh i nazyvaiut propadavateli, kstati."
     Bob Rothstein


Jules Levin wrote:
>>> A feat of the translator's art that no computer could match:
>>>
>>> Nabokov's rendering of Lewis Carrol's "reeling and writhing" as the
>>> curriculum in the Walrus's school for oysters:
>>> chesat' i pitat'
>>>

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From jusudra at YAHOO.COM  Mon Sep 16 03:43:20 2013
From: jusudra at YAHOO.COM (Julie Draskoczy)
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 20:43:20 -0700
Subject: Death of Ivan Ilych
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Greetings, SEELANGers!

I'm writing to see if anyone would recommend a particular translation of Tolstoy's The Death of Ivan Ilych. I will be teaching it and would like the most accurate version. 

Thanks in advance,

Julie

Julie Draskoczy, PhD 

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From kmfplatt at SAS.UPENN.EDU  Mon Sep 16 13:57:54 2013
From: kmfplatt at SAS.UPENN.EDU (Kevin M. F. Platt)
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 09:57:54 -0400
Subject: Short story or play about Russian nihilists or revolutionaries
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Dear colleagues:

I would like to find a short work in English translation about Russian revolutionaries, radicalism or terrorism dating from the late 19C. This is for a cultural history/social history course that I teach in which I alternate between lecture and discussion modes and place short works into historical context—it's for the "terror and revolution" week. I would love to find a short anti-nihilist work (as opposed to the big anti-nihilist novels, which are too long for my purposes), or an anti-nihilist play (I've used Tolstoy's "Infected Family," but it's so lacking in literary merits that I want to get away from it). Suggestions? 

kp
 
Kevin M. F. Platt 
Edmund J. and Louise W. Kahn Term Professor in the Humanities
University of Pennsylvania 

kmfplatt at sas.upenn.edu 
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From nk2543 at COLUMBIA.EDU  Mon Sep 16 14:34:14 2013
From: nk2543 at COLUMBIA.EDU (Nataliya Kun)
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 10:34:14 -0400
Subject: Short story or play about Russian nihilists or revolutionaries
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Dear Professor Platt,

You may find Leskov’s «Путешествие с нигилистом» (A Journey with a
Nihilist) interesting.  I think it was published in the book
“Satirical Stories of Nikolai Leskov.”  It may be considered
anti-nihilist in a very peculiar way.  A great example of Leskov’s
irony and very short!

Nataliya


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Nataliya Kun
Lecturer, Columbia University
Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures
715 Hamilton Hall
New York, NY, 10027
nk2543 at columbia.edu

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From asnakhimovsky at COLGATE.EDU  Mon Sep 16 14:39:33 2013
From: asnakhimovsky at COLGATE.EDU (Alice Nakhimovsky)
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 10:39:33 -0400
Subject: Short story or play about Russian nihilists or revolutionaries
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Tom Stoppard's Utopia trilogy. Written in English.


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Nataliya Kun <nk2543 at columbia.edu> wrote:

> Dear Professor Platt,
>
> You may find Leskov’s «Путешествие с нигилистом» (A Journey with a
> Nihilist) interesting.  I think it was published in the book
> “Satirical Stories of Nikolai Leskov.”  It may be considered
> anti-nihilist in a very peculiar way.  A great example of Leskov’s
> irony and very short!
>
> Nataliya
>
>
> --
> Nataliya Kun
> Lecturer, Columbia University
> Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures
> 715 Hamilton Hall
> New York, NY, 10027
> nk2543 at columbia.edu
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Colgate University

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From e.gapova at GMAIL.COM  Mon Sep 16 15:17:43 2013
From: e.gapova at GMAIL.COM (Elena Gapova)
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 11:17:43 -0400
Subject: Short story or play about Russian nihilists or revolutionaries
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"Статский советник" by Boris Akunin, where Fandorin investigates a
terrorist plot (looks like 1880s or a bit later). This is a book, so it is
not short, but there is a movie version. Two hours of fun.

Elena Gapova




2013/9/16 Alice Nakhimovsky <asnakhimovsky at colgate.edu>

> Tom Stoppard's Utopia trilogy. Written in English.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Nataliya Kun <nk2543 at columbia.edu>wrote:
>
>> Dear Professor Platt,
>>
>> You may find Leskov's <<Путешествие с нигилистом>> (A Journey with a
>> Nihilist) interesting.  I think it was published in the book
>> "Satirical Stories of Nikolai Leskov."  It may be considered
>> anti-nihilist in a very peculiar way.  A great example of Leskov's
>> irony and very short!
>>
>> Nataliya
>>
>>
>> --
>> Nataliya Kun
>> Lecturer, Columbia University
>> Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures
>> 715 Hamilton Hall
>> New York, NY, 10027
>> nk2543 at columbia.edu
>>
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> Director, Russian and Eurasian Studies
> Colgate University
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From vit at SAS.UPENN.EDU  Mon Sep 16 16:40:56 2013
From: vit at SAS.UPENN.EDU (Victoria Thorstensson)
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 12:40:56 -0400
Subject: Short story or play about Russian nihilists or revolutionaries
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This is tough. Most of the nihilist and anti-nihilist works are novels  
or novellas, and it sounds like you are looking for a short story. The  
most obvious choice for me would be a short story by Dyakov-Nezlobin  
from his "Circles" cycle. Unfortunately, none of them are translated.  
I maintain that the nihilist/anti-nihilist distinction is very  
artificial, and most of the "nihilist" and "anti-nihilist" works  
recycle similar themes and have similar characters. Therefore, I think  
that you can consider taking Kovalevskaya's "Nihilist Girl." It is not  
very long. Although the period that it describes is more "populist"  
than "nihilist," it will still be suitable for what you are trying to  
achieve in your course. If you want a "nihilist" period, however,  
Pomialovsky's "Molotov" is a good choice (presuming that Turgenev's  
Fathers and Sons is too long for you) -- but I have not seen any  
English translation of that either. There are some works by bigger  
authors (bigger, that is, than Kovalevskaya or Pomialovsky) which, one  
way or another, touch on the problem of nihilism. You can consider  
taking Leskov's "Овцебык" or "Загадочный  
человек" (they are, most likely, translated). Another genre to  
consider is poetry. Try looking for the English translations of A. K.  
Tolstoy's ballads about nihilism. Finally, I have some graphic novels  
by Dmitry Minaev from Iskra that satirize some of the bigger polemical  
novels of the period. There is very little text in them (just a few  
pages) but it needs to be translated. They are hilarious.

Overall, the bottom line is that the more artistically accomplished  
polemical works about nihilism in the 1860-1870s are novels and it  
will be hard to find something that is considerably higher in quality  
than Tolstoy's "Infected Family." If your concern is, first and  
foremost, to expose students to great works of Russian literature, I  
suggest taking some excerpts from Dostoevsky's Demons (e.g. the  
chapter "With Our People") and providing some context for them in your  
lecture.

Best,

Vika (Victoria Thorstensson)
Quoting "Kevin M. F. Platt" <kmfplatt at sas.upenn.edu>:

> Dear colleagues:
>
> I would like to find a short work in English translation about  
> Russian revolutionaries, radicalism or terrorism dating from the  
> late 19C. This is for a cultural history/social history course that  
> I teach in which I alternate between lecture and discussion modes  
> and place short works into historical context--it's for the "terror  
> and revolution" week. I would love to find a short anti-nihilist  
> work (as opposed to the big anti-nihilist novels, which are too long  
> for my purposes), or an anti-nihilist play (I've used Tolstoy's  
> "Infected Family," but it's so lacking in literary merits that I  
> want to get away from it). Suggestions?
>
> kp
>
> Kevin M. F. Platt
> Edmund J. and Louise W. Kahn Term Professor in the Humanities
> University of Pennsylvania
>
> kmfplatt at sas.upenn.edu
> http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/slavic/faculty/platt.htm
>
> T: 215-908-1685; F: 215-573-7794
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From bkhayden1990 at GMAIL.COM  Tue Sep 17 14:27:56 2013
From: bkhayden1990 at GMAIL.COM (Brian Hayden)
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 10:27:56 -0400
Subject: [w] for [v] in the speech of Russians speaking English
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Dear SEELANGers,

The pronunciation of one Russian in this broadcast (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH41sond7HA ) has me a little puzzled.
Around 3:14 she pronounces (as far as I can tell) the first consonant of
"very" more or less like an English speaker would, but then around 3:42 she
says something that might be either "very" or "wery", and then a few
seconds later she says "very" again, but definitely replaces the [v] sound
with a [w] sound.

This strikes me as strange for several reasons:
1) she doesn't replace [v] with [w] everywhere -- she didn't when she was
speaking more quickly around 3:14
2) standard Russian doesn't even have a [w] phoneme
3) this doesn't seem to be an especially common mispronunciation among
Russians. Having done quite a bit of English tutoring with Russians, there
are a few places where almost everyone I tutored had some issues --
pronouncing the first vowel and *r* of "Thursday" or "her" like <<ёр>> ("I
will tell хёр") comes to mind. That makes sense to me; Russian doesn't have
a sound exactly like the "ur" in "Thursday", so Russian-speakers substitute
it with the closest thing they have. But here Russians have the same [v]
sound as English-speakers do, but nevertheless it seems that a
Russian-speaker is replacing it with a sound that is foreign to standard
Russian.

Can someone explain to me what's really happening here?

Sincerely,

Brian Hayden

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From simon at SIMONBEATTIE.CO.UK  Tue Sep 17 15:01:03 2013
From: simon at SIMONBEATTIE.CO.UK (Simon Beattie)
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 15:01:03 +0000
Subject: [w] for [v] in the speech of Russians speaking English
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Some German speakers certainly do this when speaking English.  Though I have always presumed it was some kind of hypercorrection on their part: they perhaps automatically pronounce a written w as [v], as in German, but they also know that [w] exists in English, so use it when they see the letter v.

Simon


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To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [SEELANGS] [w] for [v] in the speech of Russians speaking English

Dear SEELANGers,

The pronunciation of one Russian in this broadcast ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH41sond7HA ) has me a little puzzled. Around 3:14 she pronounces (as far as I can tell) the first consonant of "very" more or less like an English speaker would, but then around 3:42 she says something that might be either "very" or "wery", and then a few seconds later she says "very" again, but definitely replaces the [v] sound with a [w] sound.

This strikes me as strange for several reasons:
1) she doesn't replace [v] with [w] everywhere -- she didn't when she was speaking more quickly around 3:14
2) standard Russian doesn't even have a [w] phoneme
3) this doesn't seem to be an especially common mispronunciation among Russians. Having done quite a bit of English tutoring with Russians, there are a few places where almost everyone I tutored had some issues -- pronouncing the first vowel and r of "Thursday" or "her" like «ёр» ("I will tell хёр") comes to mind. That makes sense to me; Russian doesn't have a sound exactly like the "ur" in "Thursday", so Russian-speakers substitute it with the closest thing they have. But here Russians have the same [v] sound as English-speakers do, but nevertheless it seems that a Russian-speaker is replacing it with a sound that is foreign to standard Russian.

Can someone explain to me what's really happening here?

Sincerely,

Brian Hayden
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From John.Dunn at GLASGOW.AC.UK  Tue Sep 17 14:58:14 2013
From: John.Dunn at GLASGOW.AC.UK (John Dunn)
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 15:58:14 +0100
Subject: [w] for [v] in the speech of Russians speaking English
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I suspect it is a form of hypercorrection.  A Russian speaking English will know to make an adjustment to use the strange [w] instead of the more familiar [v] at the beginning of many words, but may sometimes get carried way and make the adjustment where it is not required.  I am not sure that it is all that unusual in native speakers of languages that do not contain [w], though it may be the case that it is encountered more often with German speakers than with Russian speakers.

John Dunn.  
________________________________________
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Sent: 17 September 2013 16:27
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [SEELANGS] [w] for [v] in the speech of Russians speaking English

Dear SEELANGers,

The pronunciation of one Russian in this broadcast ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH41sond7HA ) has me a little puzzled. Around 3:14 she pronounces (as far as I can tell) the first consonant of "very" more or less like an English speaker would, but then around 3:42 she says something that might be either "very" or "wery", and then a few seconds later she says "very" again, but definitely replaces the [v] sound with a [w] sound.

This strikes me as strange for several reasons:
1) she doesn't replace [v] with [w] everywhere -- she didn't when she was speaking more quickly around 3:14
2) standard Russian doesn't even have a [w] phoneme
3) this doesn't seem to be an especially common mispronunciation among Russians. Having done quite a bit of English tutoring with Russians, there are a few places where almost everyone I tutored had some issues -- pronouncing the first vowel and r of "Thursday" or "her" like «ёр» ("I will tell хёр") comes to mind. That makes sense to me; Russian doesn't have a sound exactly like the "ur" in "Thursday", so Russian-speakers substitute it with the closest thing they have. But here Russians have the same [v] sound as English-speakers do, but nevertheless it seems that a Russian-speaker is replacing it with a sound that is foreign to standard Russian.

Can someone explain to me what's really happening here?

Sincerely,

Brian Hayden
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From dorian06 at HOTMAIL.COM  Tue Sep 17 15:42:31 2013
From: dorian06 at HOTMAIL.COM (Dorian Juric)
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 15:42:31 +0000
Subject: [w] for [v] in the speech of Russians speaking English
In-Reply-To: <BF6EE0CE945DA8479B6C6F8C3488C9667EA28A@MBX02.bizispace.com>
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        This has been a problem that has plagued me for a very long time. Hopefully someone with more insight and erudition will come on here and elucidate this for the both of us. I'm surprised that you're just noticing this now as the [v] and [w] swap for Slavic speakers is a very well known accent characteristic and shows up in much stereotyping (there's a line in the horrible fourth Indiana Jones movie where the hero tells the unknown soldiers that have kidnapped him that he could tell they were Russians by their "Wubble-'u's").
  
       My father has retained very little of his Croatian accent, yet this trait more than any other has persisted. He still often 'wolunteers' for things and picks 'flovers' in the 'walley'. I used to think that this was a product of his being taught the English language poorly, that the teachers had equated the 'w' to the Croatian 'v' as a reference for understanding (to this day Croatians in Croatia, when spelling out internet websites say "ve-ve-ve" for www.). But there are speakers today who have learned English in the modern day and still make this mistake. 

       I can't speak for Russian, only Croatian, but despite there being no alphabetical 'w' in Croatian, there IS a phonetic one and having learned that, I assume this process to be phonetic and probably some sort of allophonic problem. In Croatian words like 'uopće' the 'uo' combination does produce a 'w' sound, so it is THERE in the language. But to answer why, upon learning English, many Slavic speakers seem to substitute 'v's and 'w's at random, and why many speakers often use them almost perfectly inverted ('v' when a 'w' is required and vice-versa), that I can't answer and hope that someone more familiar with linguistics can.

Dorian Jurić, MA
McMaster Univeristy


Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 15:01:03 +0000
From: simon at SIMONBEATTIE.CO.UK
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] [w] for [v] in the speech of Russians speaking English
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU









Some German speakers certainly do this when speaking English.  Though I have always presumed it was some kind of hypercorrection on their part: they perhaps
 automatically pronounce a written w as [v], as in German, but they also know that [w] exists in English, so use it when they see the letter v.
 
Simon
 
 

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Sent: 17 September 2013 15:28

To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Subject: [SEELANGS] [w] for [v] in the speech of Russians speaking English

 

Dear SEELANGers,

 


The pronunciation of one Russian in this broadcast ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH41sond7HA ) has me a little puzzled. Around 3:14 she pronounces (as far as I can tell) the first
 consonant of "very" more or less like an English speaker would, but then around 3:42 she says something that might be either "very" or "wery", and then a few seconds later she says "very" again, but definitely replaces the [v] sound with a [w] sound. 


 


This strikes me as strange for several reasons: 


1) she doesn't replace [v] with [w] everywhere -- she didn't when she was speaking more quickly around 3:14


2) standard Russian doesn't even have a [w] phoneme


3) this doesn't seem to be an especially common mispronunciation among Russians. Having done quite a bit of English tutoring with Russians, there are a few places where almost everyone I tutored had some issues -- pronouncing the first
 vowel and r of "Thursday" or "her" like «ёр» ("I will tell хёр") comes to mind. That makes sense to me; Russian doesn't have a sound exactly like the "ur" in "Thursday", so Russian-speakers substitute it with the closest thing they have. But here Russians
 have the same [v] sound as English-speakers do, but nevertheless it seems that a Russian-speaker is replacing it with a sound that is foreign to standard Russian.


 


Can someone explain to me what's really happening here?


 


Sincerely,


 


Brian Hayden


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From margaret.samu at GMAIL.COM  Tue Sep 17 14:22:36 2013
From: margaret.samu at GMAIL.COM (Margaret Samu)
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 10:22:36 -0400
Subject: Essay on Soviet / Jewish Food
In-Reply-To: <8665520A-DCCF-4487-9723-59082DA92CC2@tcnj.edu>
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Dear Ben and All,

Thank you for posting this. It turns out that the heroine of the book--the
author's mother--is none other than my neighbor, Larisa Frumkin, whom I
also see at the Met Museum, where she's a docent (you can catch her
Russian-language Highlights tour, Шедевры музея, on Thursdays or Fridays).
I had no idea she was about to become such a celebrity!

For those in the New York area, there will be a book reading/signing event
at the Strand Bookstore this Thursday evening. According to Larisa, it's
appearing in a number of different languages, and the publisher is
evidently putting quite a lot into the publicity.

There was also a story about it on NPR this morning:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2013/09/17/223053778/kitchen-time-machine-a-culinary-romp-through-soviet-history

Best regards,
Margaret

=========================
Margaret Samu
Art History Department
Yeshiva University Stern College for Women
245 Lexington Avenue
New York, NY  10016

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From paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM  Tue Sep 17 15:47:08 2013
From: paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM (Paul B. Gallagher)
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:47:08 -0400
Subject: [w] for [v] in the speech of Russians speaking English
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Brian Hayden wrote:
> Dear SEELANGers,
>
> The pronunciation of one Russian in this broadcast (
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH41sond7HA ) has me a little puzzled.
> Around 3:14 she pronounces (as far as I can tell) the first consonant of
> "very" more or less like an English speaker would, but then around 3:42
> she says something that might be either "very" or "wery", and then a few
> seconds later she says "very" again, but definitely replaces the [v]
> sound with a [w] sound.
>
> This strikes me as strange for several reasons:
> 1) she doesn't replace [v] with [w] everywhere -- she didn't when she
> was speaking more quickly around 3:14
> 2) standard Russian doesn't even have a [w] phoneme
> 3) this doesn't seem to be an especially common mispronunciation among
> Russians. Having done quite a bit of English tutoring with Russians,
> there are a few places where almost everyone I tutored had some issues
> -- pronouncing the first vowel and /r/ of "Thursday" or "her" like «ёр»
> ("I will tell хёр") comes to mind. That makes sense to me; Russian
> doesn't have a sound exactly like the "ur" in "Thursday", so
> Russian-speakers substitute it with the closest thing they have. But
> here Russians have the same [v] sound as English-speakers do, but
> nevertheless it seems that a Russian-speaker is replacing it with a
> sound that is foreign to standard Russian.
>
> Can someone explain to me what's really happening here?

Language learners go through several phases as they acquire new sounds. 
Don't assume that this one has only the Russian inventory -- she may be 
in the process of acquiring /w/. "Mr. Chekhov" on the original Star Trek 
series sounds like this, too.

In that case, an L2 speaker with sketchy /w/ will produce a variety of 
sounds approximating /w/, and be inconsistent in their usage (often 
pronouncing the same word variably). So one intermediate phase will be 
that /v/ prevails but /w/ occurs occasionally, and not always where 
appropriate. As proficiency increases, /w/ is pronounced more accurately 
and used more appropriately, and in the end, it is pronounced well and 
used exactly where it should be.

-- 
War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
--
Paul B. Gallagher
pbg translations, inc.
"Russian Translations That Read Like Originals"
http://pbg-translations.com

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From bowrudder at GMAIL.COM  Tue Sep 17 16:02:58 2013
From: bowrudder at GMAIL.COM (Charles Mills)
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 09:02:58 -0700
Subject: [w] for [v] in the speech of Russians speaking English
In-Reply-To: <BF6EE0CE945DA8479B6C6F8C3488C9667EA28A@MBX02.bizispace.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.17.SEP.2013.090258.0700.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

In my experience, this phenomenon is more widespread than you describe it.
I've encountered it a lot.  Many phonologists view Russian as having /w/ at
the grammatical level, realized as either [v] or [f] (Lightner, Harshenin,
Coats, Kiparsky, Hayes).  If that is true, it could be that they just
haven't assimilated the grammar of L2.  Overcompensation could be the
phonological analog of speakers who use "I" where they should use "me";
they know "w" is correct.  They just don't know when.


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Simon Beattie <simon at simonbeattie.co.uk>wrote:

>  Some German speakers certainly do this when speaking English.  Though I
> have always presumed it was some kind of hypercorrection on their part:
> they perhaps automatically pronounce a written w as [v], as in German, but
> they also know that [w] exists in English, so use it when they see the
> letter v.****
>
> ** **
>
> Simon****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures list
> [mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Brian Hayden
> *Sent:* 17 September 2013 15:28
> *To:* SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> *Subject:* [SEELANGS] [w] for [v] in the speech of Russians speaking
> English****
>
> ** **
>
> Dear SEELANGers,****
>
> ** **
>
> The pronunciation of one Russian in this broadcast (
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH41sond7HA ) has me a little puzzled.
> Around 3:14 she pronounces (as far as I can tell) the first consonant of
> "very" more or less like an English speaker would, but then around 3:42 she
> says something that might be either "very" or "wery", and then a few
> seconds later she says "very" again, but definitely replaces the [v] sound
> with a [w] sound. ****
>
> ** **
>
> This strikes me as strange for several reasons: ****
>
> 1) she doesn't replace [v] with [w] everywhere -- she didn't when she was
> speaking more quickly around 3:14****
>
> 2) standard Russian doesn't even have a [w] phoneme****
>
> 3) this doesn't seem to be an especially common mispronunciation among
> Russians. Having done quite a bit of English tutoring with Russians, there
> are a few places where almost everyone I tutored had some issues --
> pronouncing the first vowel and *r* of "Thursday" or "her" like <<ёр>> ("I
> will tell хёр") comes to mind. That makes sense to me; Russian doesn't have
> a sound exactly like the "ur" in "Thursday", so Russian-speakers substitute
> it with the closest thing they have. But here Russians have the same [v]
> sound as English-speakers do, but nevertheless it seems that a
> Russian-speaker is replacing it with a sound that is foreign to standard
> Russian.****
>
> ** **
>
> Can someone explain to me what's really happening here?****
>
> ** **
>
> Sincerely,****
>
> ** **
>
> Brian Hayden****
>
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From frosset at WHEATONMA.EDU  Tue Sep 17 16:03:05 2013
From: frosset at WHEATONMA.EDU (Francoise Rosset)
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 12:03:05 -0400
Subject: [w] for [v] in the speech of Russians speaking English
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Message-ID: <TUE.17.SEP.2013.120305.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Funny you should mention Star Trek.

Yes, Mr. Chekhov did make this particular "mistake." The actor in the
original series was NOT Russian.
The actor in the current movies, Anton Yelchin, is Russian, and boy, does
he sound it; the accent -- not his own-- is "perfect. "

Interestingly, he thought the V and W business was just the previous actor:
"I know the Russian accent so well because I have so many family members
and family friends who speak with one, but there are also certain things
that Walter Koenig does specifically, like his version of it, that I have
been picking up and studying to incorporate, because I think they're really
important. It really is Chekov. It's not just some Russian guy. It's
Chekov. Specifically the word 'very'. He says 'wery'. It's a W instead of a
V. And the way he says 'keptin'... All these things, I think, are important
to take note of and use."

Thank you to Dorian Juric for clarifying that it does happen naturally ...

-FR





On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Paul B. Gallagher <
paulbg at pbg-translations.com> wrote:

> Brian Hayden wrote:
>
>> Dear SEELANGers,
>>
>> The pronunciation of one Russian in this broadcast (
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=aH41sond7HA<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH41sond7HA>) has me a little puzzled.
>> Around 3:14 she pronounces (as far as I can tell) the first consonant of
>> "very" more or less like an English speaker would, but then around 3:42
>> she says something that might be either "very" or "wery", and then a few
>> seconds later she says "very" again, but definitely replaces the [v]
>> sound with a [w] sound.
>>
>> This strikes me as strange for several reasons:
>> 1) she doesn't replace [v] with [w] everywhere -- she didn't when she
>> was speaking more quickly around 3:14
>> 2) standard Russian doesn't even have a [w] phoneme
>> 3) this doesn't seem to be an especially common mispronunciation among
>> Russians. Having done quite a bit of English tutoring with Russians,
>> there are a few places where almost everyone I tutored had some issues
>> -- pronouncing the first vowel and /r/ of "Thursday" or "her" like «ёр»
>> ("I will tell хёр") comes to mind. That makes sense to me; Russian
>> doesn't have a sound exactly like the "ur" in "Thursday", so
>> Russian-speakers substitute it with the closest thing they have. But
>> here Russians have the same [v] sound as English-speakers do, but
>> nevertheless it seems that a Russian-speaker is replacing it with a
>> sound that is foreign to standard Russian.
>>
>> Can someone explain to me what's really happening here?
>>
>
> Language learners go through several phases as they acquire new sounds.
> Don't assume that this one has only the Russian inventory -- she may be in
> the process of acquiring /w/. "Mr. Chekhov" on the original Star Trek
> series sounds like this, too.
>
> In that case, an L2 speaker with sketchy /w/ will produce a variety of
> sounds approximating /w/, and be inconsistent in their usage (often
> pronouncing the same word variably). So one intermediate phase will be that
> /v/ prevails but /w/ occurs occasionally, and not always where appropriate.
> As proficiency increases, /w/ is pronounced more accurately and used more
> appropriately, and in the end, it is pronounced well and used exactly where
> it should be.
>
> --
> War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
> --
> Paul B. Gallagher
> pbg translations, inc.
> "Russian Translations That Read Like Originals"
> http://pbg-translations.com
>
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From mark.schrad at VILLANOVA.EDU  Tue Sep 17 17:42:56 2013
From: mark.schrad at VILLANOVA.EDU (Mark Schrad)
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 17:42:56 +0000
Subject: Translating Kant can be a dangerous business
Message-ID: <TUE.17.SEP.2013.174256.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Hi, Seelangers:

I'm sure everyone's already heard about the Rostov-on-Don beer-line dispute over Immanuel Kant that ended in a (nonfatal) shooting. But given the focus on translations here, I thought that everyone might be interested on what really went down! --- http://ivand.livejournal.com/1743128.html

Enjoy!

-Mark

Mark Lawrence Schrad

Assistant Professor
Department of Political Science
Villanova University
256 St. Augustine Center
800 Lancaster Ave.
Villanova, PA  19085-1699

http://www10.homepage.villanova.edu/mark.schrad
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From moss at MIDDLEBURY.EDU  Tue Sep 17 17:48:35 2013
From: moss at MIDDLEBURY.EDU (Moss, Kevin M.)
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 17:48:35 +0000
Subject: [w] for [v] in the speech of Russians speaking English
In-Reply-To: <CAHZzm+YcF5LsWPimLdDnSnd7wEtJ5gvsTenq_TdsYr1d+E82KA@mail.gmail.com>
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And I see the Slavists have inverted the usual mistake and twice now turned Mr. Chekov into the more familiar for us Mr. Chekhov!
KM

Re the original question, I think they learn to pronounce w, but not always to distinguish it from v, so production is random. Similar things happen with Québécois speakers and h in English. Would you like am and heggs for breakfast? (And now I go to pick some flovers in the walley in Istra!)

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 17, 2013, at 6:14 PM, "Francoise Rosset" <frosset at WHEATONMA.EDU<mailto:frosset at WHEATONMA.EDU>> wrote:

Funny you should mention Star Trek.

Yes, Mr. Chekhov did make this particular "mistake." The actor in the original series was NOT Russian.
The actor in the current movies, Anton Yelchin, is Russian, and boy, does he sound it; the accent -- not his own-- is "perfect. "

Interestingly, he thought the V and W business was just the previous actor:
"I know the Russian accent so well because I have so many family members and family friends who speak with one, but there are also certain things that Walter Koenig does specifically, like his version of it, that I have been picking up and studying to incorporate, because I think they're really important. It really is Chekov. It's not just some Russian guy. It's Chekov. Specifically the word 'very'. He says 'wery'. It's a W instead of a V. And the way he says 'keptin'... All these things, I think, are important to take note of and use."

Thank you to Dorian Juric for clarifying that it does happen naturally ...

-FR





On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Paul B. Gallagher <paulbg at pbg-translations.com<mailto:paulbg at pbg-translations.com>> wrote:
Brian Hayden wrote:
Dear SEELANGers,

The pronunciation of one Russian in this broadcast (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH41sond7HA ) has me a little puzzled.
Around 3:14 she pronounces (as far as I can tell) the first consonant of
"very" more or less like an English speaker would, but then around 3:42
she says something that might be either "very" or "wery", and then a few
seconds later she says "very" again, but definitely replaces the [v]
sound with a [w] sound.

This strikes me as strange for several reasons:
1) she doesn't replace [v] with [w] everywhere -- she didn't when she
was speaking more quickly around 3:14
2) standard Russian doesn't even have a [w] phoneme
3) this doesn't seem to be an especially common mispronunciation among
Russians. Having done quite a bit of English tutoring with Russians,
there are a few places where almost everyone I tutored had some issues
-- pronouncing the first vowel and /r/ of "Thursday" or "her" like «ёр»
("I will tell хёр") comes to mind. That makes sense to me; Russian
doesn't have a sound exactly like the "ur" in "Thursday", so
Russian-speakers substitute it with the closest thing they have. But
here Russians have the same [v] sound as English-speakers do, but
nevertheless it seems that a Russian-speaker is replacing it with a
sound that is foreign to standard Russian.

Can someone explain to me what's really happening here?

Language learners go through several phases as they acquire new sounds. Don't assume that this one has only the Russian inventory -- she may be in the process of acquiring /w/. "Mr. Chekhov" on the original Star Trek series sounds like this, too.

In that case, an L2 speaker with sketchy /w/ will produce a variety of sounds approximating /w/, and be inconsistent in their usage (often pronouncing the same word variably). So one intermediate phase will be that /v/ prevails but /w/ occurs occasionally, and not always where appropriate. As proficiency increases, /w/ is pronounced more accurately and used more appropriately, and in the end, it is pronounced well and used exactly where it should be.

--
War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
--
Paul B. Gallagher
pbg translations, inc.
"Russian Translations That Read Like Originals"
http://pbg-translations.com

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From pstock at BRANDEIS.EDU  Tue Sep 17 18:03:33 2013
From: pstock at BRANDEIS.EDU (David Powelstock)
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 14:03:33 -0400
Subject: Translating Kant can be a dangerous business
In-Reply-To: <A395B468DAAE9348A95A411036225CA14C8EF467@VUEX14MB1.vuad.villanova.edu>
Message-ID: <TUE.17.SEP.2013.140333.0400.>

A literal case of *gore ot uma*.
David P.

 * * * * * * * * * *
David Powelstock
Assoc. Prof. of Russian and Comparative Literature
Director, Master of Arts in Comparative Humanities
Brandeis University
Waltham, MA 02453


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Mark Schrad <mark.schrad at villanova.edu>wrote:

>  Hi, Seelangers:
>
>  I'm sure everyone's already heard about the Rostov-on-Don beer-line
> dispute over Immanuel Kant that ended in a (nonfatal) shooting. But given
> the focus on translations here, I thought that everyone might be interested
> on what really went down! --- http://ivand.livejournal.com/1743128.html
>
>  Enjoy!
>
>  -Mark
>
>  Mark Lawrence Schrad
>
> Assistant Professor
> Department of Political Science
> Villanova University
> 256 St. Augustine Center
> 800 Lancaster Ave.
> Villanova, PA  19085-1699
>
> http://www10.homepage.villanova.edu/mark.schrad
> mark.schrad at villanova.edu
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From mantic at WISC.EDU  Tue Sep 17 18:15:08 2013
From: mantic at WISC.EDU (=?UTF-8?B?TWFyaW5hIEFudGnEhw==?=)
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 14:15:08 -0400
Subject: [w] for [v] in the speech of Russians speaking English
In-Reply-To: <BLU170-W12138491BEFE07CFB48EC2D6270@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <TUE.17.SEP.2013.141508.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

I can speak only for the Bosnian/Croatian/Montenegrin/Serbian here as 
that is my native language and I often mistake v and w especially if 
they are in the same word or if there is aliteration, that is, 
would-be-aliteration in my mind. For example, "very worried" is a tongue 
twister for me.

As for the "uo" standing in for "w" phonetically, I would caution that 
it really depends on the dialect. Depending on dialect, the stress falls 
on either "u" or "o" and it is only with the latter that it approximates 
the "w" sound. Perhaps there are other examples that would approximate 
it better.

Regardless, I believe far more important in this case is the very logic 
of the BCMS alphabet by which the letters "v" and "w" look very alike 
and therefore should/ought to sound alike. In BCMS, it was Vuk 
Karadzic's famous "one letter, one sound" orthography that creates this 
association. At least among the non-linguists.

Marina Antic

On 9/17/2013 11:42 AM, Dorian Juric wrote:
>         This has been a problem that has plagued me for a very long 
> time. Hopefully someone with more insight and erudition will come on 
> here and elucidate this for the both of us. I'm surprised that you're 
> just noticing this now as the [v] and [w] swap for Slavic speakers is 
> a very well known accent characteristic and shows up in much 
> stereotyping (there's a line in the horrible fourth Indiana Jones 
> movie where the hero tells the unknown soldiers that have kidnapped 
> him that he could tell they were Russians by their "Wubble-'u's").
>
>        My father has retained very little of his Croatian accent, yet 
> this trait more than any other has persisted. He still often 
> 'wolunteers' for things and picks 'flovers' in the 'walley'. I used to 
> think that this was a product of his being taught the English language 
> poorly, that the teachers had equated the 'w' to the Croatian 'v' as a 
> reference for understanding (to this day Croatians in Croatia, when 
> spelling out internet websites say "ve-ve-ve" for www.). But there are 
> speakers today who have learned English in the modern day and still 
> make this mistake.
>
>        I can't speak for Russian, only Croatian, but despite there 
> being no alphabetical 'w' in Croatian, there IS a phonetic one and 
> having learned that, I assume this process to be phonetic and probably 
> some sort of allophonic problem. In Croatian words like 'uopće' the 
> 'uo' combination does produce a 'w' sound, so it is THERE in the 
> language. But to answer why, upon learning English, many Slavic 
> speakers seem to substitute 'v's and 'w's at random, and why many 
> speakers often use them almost perfectly inverted ('v' when a 'w' is 
> required and vice-versa), that I can't answer and hope that someone 
> more familiar with linguistics can.
>
>
> Dorian Jurić, MA
> McMaster Univeristy
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 15:01:03 +0000
> From: simon at SIMONBEATTIE.CO.UK
> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] [w] for [v] in the speech of Russians speaking 
> English
> To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>
> Some German speakers certainly do this when speaking English.  Though 
> I have always presumed it was some kind of hypercorrection on their 
> part: they perhaps automatically pronounce a written w as [v], as in 
> German, but they also know that [w] exists in English, so use it when 
> they see the letter v.
>
> Simon
>
> *From:*SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures list 
> [mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Brian Hayden
> *Sent:* 17 September 2013 15:28
> *To:* SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> *Subject:* [SEELANGS] [w] for [v] in the speech of Russians speaking 
> English
>
> Dear SEELANGers,
>
> The pronunciation of one Russian in this broadcast ( 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH41sond7HA ) has me a little puzzled. 
> Around 3:14 she pronounces (as far as I can tell) the first consonant 
> of "very" more or less like an English speaker would, but then around 
> 3:42 she says something that might be either "very" or "wery", and 
> then a few seconds later she says "very" again, but definitely 
> replaces the [v] sound with a [w] sound.
>
> This strikes me as strange for several reasons:
>
> 1) she doesn't replace [v] with [w] everywhere -- she didn't when she 
> was speaking more quickly around 3:14
>
> 2) standard Russian doesn't even have a [w] phoneme
>
> 3) this doesn't seem to be an especially common mispronunciation among 
> Russians. Having done quite a bit of English tutoring with Russians, 
> there are a few places where almost everyone I tutored had some issues 
> -- pronouncing the first vowel and /r/ of "Thursday" or "her" like 
> «ёр» ("I will tell хёр") comes to mind. That makes sense to me; 
> Russian doesn't have a sound exactly like the "ur" in "Thursday", so 
> Russian-speakers substitute it with the closest thing they have. But 
> here Russians have the same [v] sound as English-speakers do, but 
> nevertheless it seems that a Russian-speaker is replacing it with a 
> sound that is foreign to standard Russian.
>
> Can someone explain to me what's really happening here?
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Brian Hayden
>
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From ameliede at EARTHLINK.NET  Tue Sep 17 18:01:37 2013
From: ameliede at EARTHLINK.NET (Jules Levin)
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:01:37 -0700
Subject: [w] for [v] in the speech of Russians speaking English
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There are Russian speakers and Russian speakers.
A clearly articulated labio-dental [v] like in English is a NGR, CGR, 
and normative pronunciation (although as I recall--and I am doing all 
this from memory), with less lip-spreading than in English.  As you move 
to the South, it weakens.  Cf. Ukr., BR, SGR.  Gorbachev retained SGR 
features--is he on UTube?--so I am sure there are many other SGR 
speakers of standard who are a little weak with the labio-dentals.  
Demographically the majority of Russian speakers are SGR speakers for 
whom Standard Russian, like Standard English for many of us, is a mix of 
native and what we learned in school.
Jules Levin

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From lisayountchi2011 at U.NORTHWESTERN.EDU  Tue Sep 17 19:38:35 2013
From: lisayountchi2011 at U.NORTHWESTERN.EDU (Lisa Yountchi)
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 15:38:35 -0400
Subject: Fwd: Internship Announcement
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Dear Colleagues,

I am posting this internship announcement below on behalf of Robin Hessman
(director of My Perestroika).  Please feel free to forward to current,
former students, etc. If you know of any undergraduate students in the NYC
area interested, please make sure they reply not to me but to the email
address indicated in the posting: info at myperestroika.com

Sincerely,

Lisa Yountchi



Internship Opportunity in NYC

Red Square Productions is currently seeking an intern to be part of the
Educational Outreach Team for our award-winning documentary film, My
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My Perestroika follows five ordinary Russians living in extraordinary times
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The film had its world Premiere at the Sundance Film Festival and went on
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We need a responsible and self-motivated individual to assist in
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To apply, please send an email (with resume attached) to
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festivals
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From devilsbit06 at YAHOO.COM  Tue Sep 17 19:25:41 2013
From: devilsbit06 at YAHOO.COM (J P Maher)
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 12:25:41 -0700
Subject: [w] for [v] in the speech of Russians speaking English
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Agreed, except that "between you and I" is a hypercorrection , not polyglot, but within monglot Anglophones. jpm
 

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 From: Charles Mills <bowrudder at GMAIL.COM>
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] [w] for [v] in the speech of Russians speaking English
  


In my experience, this phenomenon is more widespread than you describe it.  I've encountered it a lot.  Many phonologists view Russian as having /w/ at the grammatical level, realized as either [v] or [f] (Lightner, Harshenin, Coats, Kiparsky, Hayes).  If that is true, it could be that they just haven't assimilated the grammar of L2.  Overcompensation could be the phonological analog of speakers who use "I" where they should use "me"; they know "w" is correct.  They just don't know when. 



On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Simon Beattie <simon at simonbeattie.co.uk> wrote:

Some German speakers certainly do this when speaking English.  Though I have always presumed it was some kind of hypercorrection on their part: they perhaps automatically pronounce a written w as [v], as in German, but they also know that [w] exists in English, so use it when they see the letter v. 
>  
>Simon 
>  
>  
>From:SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures list [mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Brian Hayden
>Sent: 17 September 2013 15:28
>To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>Subject: [SEELANGS] [w] for [v] in the speech of Russians speaking English 
>  
>Dear SEELANGers, 
>   
>The pronunciation of one Russian in this broadcast ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH41sond7HA ) has me a little puzzled. Around 3:14 she pronounces (as far as I can tell) the first consonant of "very" more or less like an English speaker would, but then around 3:42 she says something that might be either "very" or "wery", and then a few seconds later she says "very" again, but definitely replaces the [v] sound with a [w] sound.   
>   
>This strikes me as strange for several reasons:   
>1) she doesn't replace [v] with [w] everywhere -- she didn't when she was speaking more quickly around 3:14  
>2) standard Russian doesn't even have a [w] phoneme  
>3) this doesn't seem to be an especially common mispronunciation among Russians. Having done quite a bit of English tutoring with Russians, there are a few places where almost everyone I tutored had some issues -- pronouncing the first vowel and r of "Thursday" or "her" like «ёр» ("I will tell хёр") comes to mind. That makes sense to me; Russian doesn't have a sound exactly like the "ur" in "Thursday", so Russian-speakers substitute it with the closest thing they have. But here Russians have the same [v] sound as English-speakers do, but nevertheless it seems that a Russian-speaker is replacing it with a sound that is foreign to standard Russian.  
>   
>Can someone explain to me what's really happening here?  
>   
>Sincerely,  
>   
>Brian Hayden   
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From mcfinke at ILLINOIS.EDU  Wed Sep 18 01:20:32 2013
From: mcfinke at ILLINOIS.EDU (Finke, Michael C)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 01:20:32 +0000
Subject: Lecturer Position, U of Illinois Urbana-Champaign
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The Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign invites applications for a Lecturer, target start date August 16, 2014. PhD at time of appointment required. 9-month/yr, full-time, non tenure-track position, renewable each year based on enrollments and strong performance reviews. Salary competitive and commensurate with experience.


The lecturer will teach advanced Russian language courses; courses for undergraduates and graduates in language pedagogy and, preferably, Slavic linguistics (e.g., structure of Russian) and intermediate-advanced languagecourses in one other Slavic Language
 (e.g., Polish). 3/2 course load. Position entails supervising the dept. language program, including: select and order course materials for Russian; oversee that process for other Slavic languages; oversee preparation of course syllabi and tests; coordinate, supervise and train graduate teaching assistants and instructors in language program; manage and market enrollment; coordinate placement testing in Slavic; serve as dept. contact for Russian language study abroad.


Required: PhD and native or near native command of Russian and English; proficiency in a second Slavic language preferred. Preference also given to degrees in Slavic linguistics, general linguistics, second language acquisition, or related fields. Experience with instructional technology inlanguage teaching, evidence of excellence in undergraduate teaching, including Russian language instruction, required; experience in program direction/supervision preferred.


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From zarathustra2001us at YAHOO.COM  Wed Sep 18 01:18:38 2013
From: zarathustra2001us at YAHOO.COM (ja tu)
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 18:18:38 -0700
Subject: [w] for [v] in the speech of Russians speaking English
In-Reply-To: <CACRt+YPc__AuwpxAtWuH8mUhK6bbR5-8ZoF2_HPwGcG+Uo+6QQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Brian,
The reason is very simple to me. Russians, such as I am, do not care much about their pronunciation. We can pronounce one and the same word slightly differently and that is not an obstacle for understanding the speaker. Sometimes we fail or forget to adjust our lips to say [v] or [w] as clearly as needed in English. There is no clear [w] or [v] in Russian. It is somewhere in the middle, and the lips do not have to move at all sometimes.
I hope it helps.
Sincerely,
Ivan.  


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From: Brian Hayden <bkhayden1990 at GMAIL.COM>
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:27 AM
Subject: [SEELANGS] [w] for [v] in the speech of Russians speaking English

Dear SEELANGers, 
The pronunciation of one Russian in this broadcast ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH41sond7HA ) has me a little puzzled. Around 3:14 she pronounces (as far as I can tell) the first consonant of "very" more or less like an English speaker would, but then around 3:42 she says something that might be either "very" or "wery", and then a few seconds later she says "very" again, but definitely replaces the [v] sound with a [w] sound. 
This strikes me as strange for several reasons: 
1) she doesn't replace [v] with [w] everywhere -- she didn't when she was speaking more quickly around 3:14
2) standard Russian doesn't even have a [w] phoneme
3) this doesn't seem to be an especially common mispronunciation among Russians. Having done quite a bit of English tutoring with Russians, there are a few places where almost everyone I tutored had some issues -- pronouncing the first vowel and r of "Thursday" or "her" like «ёр» ("I will tell хёр") comes to mind. That makes sense to me; Russian doesn't have a sound exactly like the "ur" in "Thursday", so Russian-speakers substitute it with the closest thing they have. But here Russians have the same [v] sound as English-speakers do, but nevertheless it seems that a Russian-speaker is replacing it with a sound that is foreign to standard Russian.
Can someone explain to me what's really happening here?
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From frosset at WHEATONMA.EDU  Wed Sep 18 03:46:06 2013
From: frosset at WHEATONMA.EDU (Francoise Rosset)
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 23:46:06 -0400
Subject: [w] for [v] in the speech of Russians speaking English
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On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Moss, Kevin M. <moss at middlebury.edu> wrote:

> And I see the Slavists have inverted the usual mistake and twice now
> turned Mr. Chekov into the more familiar for us Mr. Chekhov!
>

Ooops, mea culpa there.
But you have to admit there's material a-plenty for confusion: Pavel Chekov
vs. Anton Pavlovich Chekhov vs. an actor named Anton ...
-FR



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From anne_mariedevlin at HOTMAIL.COM  Wed Sep 18 07:29:59 2013
From: anne_mariedevlin at HOTMAIL.COM (anne marie devlin)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 08:29:59 +0100
Subject: [w] for [v] in the speech of Russians speaking English
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What has been described here - phonological variation in the interlanguage system is a very common phenomenon and in general a well documented aspect of the process of second language acquisition. 
When learners acquire a new aspect - in this case the phoneme [w] - it is used variably within the language system before it becomes fixed in positions which are categorical for native speakers.  In other words speakers often start out using [v] instead of [w] in all cases. When [w] enters the system, use will vary in a seemingly random manner before 'settling' down. The distinction will eventually be made. 
It's important to remember that SLA isa process and even when an aspect enters the interlanguage it takes a long time before it's use becomes stable and native like.
Whilst I'm not aware of any studies of. this particular phenomenon it's worth noting that it's not just common to native Russian speakers. It's prevalent in the interlanguage of most native speakers of Slavic and Germanic languages.
AM

Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 23:46:06 -0400
From: frosset at WHEATONMA.EDU
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] [w] for [v] in the speech of Russians speaking English
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU

On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Moss, Kevin M. <moss at middlebury.edu> wrote:

And I see the Slavists have inverted the usual mistake and twice now turned Mr. Chekov into the more familiar for us Mr. Chekhov!


Ooops, mea culpa there.
But you have to admit there's material a-plenty for confusion: Pavel Chekov vs. Anton Pavlovich Chekhov vs. an actor named Anton ...

-FR


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From publikationsreferat at OSTEUROPA.UNI-BREMEN.DE  Wed Sep 18 08:36:26 2013
From: publikationsreferat at OSTEUROPA.UNI-BREMEN.DE (Publikationsreferat (Matthias Neumann))
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 10:36:26 +0200
Subject: Urgent: Accomodation in Moscow for three people October 3rd to
 October 27th
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Dear SEELANGERS,

 

I am posting the following for a colleague who is not a member of SEELANGS. Thanks in advance for any help! – Matthias Neumann

 

“Dear all,

I am a German research fellow based in Bremen, Germany.  I got a grant from
German Historical Institute Moscow for my habilitation (post-doc thesis). I am planning to go to
Moscow for research during October 3rd to October 27th, 2013. I will not be
alone: my wife and our daughter (17 years) will be with me. Now I am looking for
accommodation. Please contact me at  <mailto:RRitter at gmx.de> RRitter at gmx.de. Thank you!
 
Rüdiger Ritter“

 


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From pmcwheeler at GMAIL.COM  Wed Sep 18 08:52:12 2013
From: pmcwheeler at GMAIL.COM (Piper Wheeler)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 01:52:12 -0700
Subject: [w] for [v] in the speech of Russians speaking English
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I've often wondered about this, due not least to my first Russian teacher
substituting the "w" in English *only* in the word "village" (=willage).
Because I've since noticed this particular pronunciation in a number of
Russians whose English is otherwise very correct, I've thought the "w"
cropped up due to the short "ih" sound that's so foreign to native Russian
speakers. This isn't a rigorously, linguistically informed opinion, and I'm
interested to hear more reasoned answers.
It does seem, though, that the "w" appears before phonemes that are rare or
nonexistent in Russian-- so we see "wery" and "willage." I don't think any
Slavic native speaker would say woracious, Kurt Wonnegut, woodoo, or wandal
(=vandal). For example.
PW


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Jules Levin <ameliede at earthlink.net>wrote:

> There are Russian speakers and Russian speakers.
> A clearly articulated labio-dental [v] like in English is a NGR, CGR, and
> normative pronunciation (although as I recall--and I am doing all this from
> memory), with less lip-spreading than in English.  As you move to the
> South, it weakens.  Cf. Ukr., BR, SGR.  Gorbachev retained SGR features--is
> he on UTube?--so I am sure there are many other SGR speakers of standard
> who are a little weak with the labio-dentals.  Demographically the majority
> of Russian speakers are SGR speakers for whom Standard Russian, like
> Standard English for many of us, is a mix of native and what we learned in
> school.
> Jules Levin
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From John.Dunn at GLASGOW.AC.UK  Wed Sep 18 10:11:45 2013
From: John.Dunn at GLASGOW.AC.UK (John Dunn)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:11:45 +0100
Subject: [w] for [v] in the speech of Russians speaking English
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It may be worth pointing out that one of the paradoxes of language learning is that the presence of a feature in a learner's L1 does not provide an automatic guarantee that this learner will not have problems in acquiring the same feature in L2.  I learned this when I was told that Scottish schoolchildren whose variety of English includes [ü] can have difficulty with this sound when they start to learn German (and, presumably, French).  The reason for this appears to be that for speakers of this variety of English [ü] replaces what in other varieties is [u], so that when they start to learn a foreign language they automatically substitute [ü] for the [u] sound in that language.  With South Russian and some other Slavonic varieties the problem is that [w] is a positionally-determined variant of [v] and the one position where it generally does not occur is at the beginning of a word before a vowel.  In other words the fact that Gorbachev tended to say со[w]сем and члено[w] would not necessarily help him with 'very' and 'worry'.

John Dunn.
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Sent: 17 September 2013 20:01
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Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] [w] for [v] in the speech of Russians speaking English

There are Russian speakers and Russian speakers.
A clearly articulated labio-dental [v] like in English is a NGR, CGR,
and normative pronunciation (although as I recall--and I am doing all
this from memory), with less lip-spreading than in English.  As you move
to the South, it weakens.  Cf. Ukr., BR, SGR.  Gorbachev retained SGR
features--is he on UTube?--so I am sure there are many other SGR
speakers of standard who are a little weak with the labio-dentals.
Demographically the majority of Russian speakers are SGR speakers for
whom Standard Russian, like Standard English for many of us, is a mix of
native and what we learned in school.
Jules Levin

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From anne_mariedevlin at HOTMAIL.COM  Wed Sep 18 10:54:03 2013
From: anne_mariedevlin at HOTMAIL.COM (anne marie devlin)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:54:03 +0100
Subject: [w] for [v] in the speech of Russians speaking English
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Interesting points raised by both john and piper. SLA research has consistently shown that language acquisition is systematic and not as dependent on the L1 as might be supposed. Hence the difficulties experienced by Scottish learners. Piper's observation regarding the linguistic environment in which variation occurs is also widely studied. That is whether the phoneme occurs at the beginning, middle or end as well as what sounds proceed or follow. In this case it appears to act as a variable at the beginning of a word and when followed by \i\ or \I:\. It would he interesting to test this hypothesis. I'm not aware of any studies but if anyone out there is, I'd love to get the references.
AM

> Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:11:45 +0100
> From: John.Dunn at GLASGOW.AC.UK
> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] [w] for [v] in the speech of Russians speaking English
> To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> 
> It may be worth pointing out that one of the paradoxes of language learning is that the presence of a feature in a learner's L1 does not provide an automatic guarantee that this learner will not have problems in acquiring the same feature in L2.  I learned this when I was told that Scottish schoolchildren whose variety of English includes [ü] can have difficulty with this sound when they start to learn German (and, presumably, French).  The reason for this appears to be that for speakers of this variety of English [ü] replaces what in other varieties is [u], so that when they start to learn a foreign language they automatically substitute [ü] for the [u] sound in that language.  With South Russian and some other Slavonic varieties the problem is that [w] is a positionally-determined variant of [v] and the one position where it generally does not occur is at the beginning of a word before a vowel.  In other words the fact that Gorbachev tended to say со[w]сем and члено[w] would not necessarily help him with 'very' and 'worry'.
> 
> John Dunn.
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> Sent: 17 September 2013 20:01
> To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
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> 
> There are Russian speakers and Russian speakers.
> A clearly articulated labio-dental [v] like in English is a NGR, CGR,
> and normative pronunciation (although as I recall--and I am doing all
> this from memory), with less lip-spreading than in English.  As you move
> to the South, it weakens.  Cf. Ukr., BR, SGR.  Gorbachev retained SGR
> features--is he on UTube?--so I am sure there are many other SGR
> speakers of standard who are a little weak with the labio-dentals.
> Demographically the majority of Russian speakers are SGR speakers for
> whom Standard Russian, like Standard English for many of us, is a mix of
> native and what we learned in school.
> Jules Levin
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From John.Dunn at GLASGOW.AC.UK  Wed Sep 18 12:32:03 2013
From: John.Dunn at GLASGOW.AC.UK (John Dunn)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 13:32:03 +0100
Subject: Translating Kant can be a dangerous business
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When I studied in Rostov-on-Don, many, many years ago, there was an open-air пивной бар strategically placed between our hostel and a near-by factory.  At some point it was decided to close this bar, on the grounds, so we were told, that its presence was disrupting production at the factory.  I now know that the cause of this disruption was not, as might be assumed by those who do not know Rostov, the consumption of alcohol, but the intensity of the philosophical discussions.

John Dunn.  
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Subject: [SEELANGS] Translating Kant can be a dangerous business

Hi, Seelangers:

I'm sure everyone's already heard about the Rostov-on-Don beer-line dispute over Immanuel Kant that ended in a (nonfatal) shooting. But given the focus on translations here, I thought that everyone might be interested on what really went down! --- http://ivand.livejournal.com/1743128.html

Enjoy!

-Mark

Mark Lawrence Schrad

Assistant Professor
Department of Political Science
Villanova University
256 St. Augustine Center
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Villanova, PA  19085-1699

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From ap729 at COLUMBIA.EDU  Wed Sep 18 14:34:41 2013
From: ap729 at COLUMBIA.EDU (Anatoly Z. Pinsky)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 09:34:41 -0500
Subject: CFP: Subjectivities after Stalin: The Khrushchev and Brezhnev
 Eras (The European University at Saint Petersburg, April 25-26,
 2014)
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Call for Papers

The European University at Saint Petersburg

Subjectivities after Stalin: The Khrushchev and Brezhnev Eras

April 25-26, 2014


The last decade has witnessed the publication of a number of richly researched studies of the Khrushchev period. Increasingly, studies of the Brezhnev era and late socialism generally are also appearing. Many of these histories focus on the ways in which Soviet citizens responded to the change and continuity that characterized the post-Stalin Soviet Union. Our picture of late socialism has been fleshed out or reframed by investigations of Soviet citizens’ reactions to Gulag returnees, to the growth of mass media, and to changes to official language, among many other social, cultural, and political phenomena. Our conference hopes to build on these investigations by focusing squarely on the Soviet subject her/himself. We aim to examine the manifold personality ideals in circulation after Stalin and above all the ways in which Soviet citizens assimilated, recast, and/or challenged these ideals. In so doing, we seek to combine the above historiographical trends with the turn by historians of the early Soviet era in the 1990s and 2000s to investigation of “Soviet” and other subjectivities.

We hope that our conference will lead to productive exploration of the reception of the personality ideals of the Khrushchev and Brezhnev eras. The result would be the creation of a picture of the post-Stalin Soviet Union that includes various subjectivities within its frame. We invite proposals from scholars of different disciplines, including anthropology, art history, history, political science, Slavic studies, and sociology. Questions asked in proposed papers might include, but are not limited to, the following:

Ideals in Circulation:

•	What personality ideals were proposed in the late socialist era and how did they change over time?
•	How did they relate to Stalin-era, Lenin-era, or pre-revolutionary ideas?
•	What led to the creation of new ideals or subtle or significant changes to the old? Pre-revolutionary holdovers, resistance informed by alternative readings of Marxism-Leninism, socio-economic modernization, new practices, new discursive regimes, the Cold War and exchange with the West, Eastern Europe, and the Third World?
•	Who, both within and beyond Party-state institutions, advanced and monitored the ideals?
•	To what extent did similar ideals exist in different cities, regions, or republics? For different age groups, genders, classes, or nations? 
•	Can we refer to the ideals as “modern” subjectivities?
•	What words or phrases were used to describe the ideals? For example, to what degree did the term New Soviet Man persist into the post-Stalin years? 
•	In what artistic, literary, or other representational forms were they presented? To what extent were some forms considered more appropriate in capturing a particular ideal than others? 
•	To what extent was the act of putting a personality ideal into circulation constitutive of normative or other subjectivities?

Reception: 

•	Theoretically, how should we conceptualize the subject who performs the act of reception?
•	How were the various ideals received, reformulated, or challenged? To what extent were normative ideals accepted with ambivalence?
•	In speaking of reception, to what degree do we refer to the intentions, beliefs, or inner worlds of our subjects as opposed to the forms of representation to which we have access?
•	How should we read their words or representations? To what extent should we read the words themselves and to what extent should we read between the lines? 
•	To what degree was there space from Party control or involvement?
•	By what institutional or social practices were subjectivities constructed? By way of family, friends, school, work, or some combination? By way of consumption and engagement with the material world?
•	How was the creation of the self tied to the creation of a community?
•	How did the writing of the community’s or another person’s life lead to the creation of one’s own subjecthood?
•	To what degree did old subjectivities exist within the same person alongside new subjectivities? How did a single individual’s subjectivity change depending on the context in which he/she found himself/herself or on the genre in which he/she represented himself/herself?
•	How did geography, age, gender, class, and nation affect reception?
•	How did the urbanization or socio-economic modernization of the late Soviet period affect the nature of reception? 

The working language of the conference will be Russian. The EUSP will provide necessary funding for travel and accommodation expenses. The proceedings will be based on pre-circulated papers of 8,000-9,000 words. Papers may be written in English or Russian and should be submitted by April 1.

Select papers, to be revised after the conference, will be included in a Russian-language peer-reviewed volume to be published by the press of the European University at Saint Petersburg. Funding will be available for translation of English-language articles into Russian.

Please submit a 300-word abstract and one-page CV by November 15 to apinsky at eu.spb.ru. Invited participants will be contacted by December 1. 

*Sponsored by FGUP (Federal State Unitary Enterprise) “Goznak.”

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From juliaver at SAS.UPENN.EDU  Wed Sep 18 15:10:55 2013
From: juliaver at SAS.UPENN.EDU (Julia Verkholantsev)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:10:55 -0400
Subject: ESSA book prize: Last call for nominations
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Last Call for Nominations!

The Early Slavic Studies Association is seeking nominations for its 2013 book
prize. This year, the committee will consider monographs in areas OUTSIDE Early
Slavic studies that contribute significantly to our field by integrating its
research and revealing important connections between pre-modern Slavic
civilization and the area of their focus (e.g. non-Slavic societies, modern
culture, folklore, religion, art, politics, etc.). The monograph must be
original research that has been published in English in the last three years.

Please pass this message on to other colleagues and send your nominations or
self-nominations to Julia Verkholantsev at juliaver at sas.upenn.edu. The extended
deadline for submissions is September 23, 2013.

Julia Verkholantsev
ESSA Book Prize Committee, Chair

-- 
Julia Verkholantsev
Associate Professor of Slavic Languages and Literatures
University of Pennsylvania
745 Williams Hall
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Philadelphia, PA 19104-6305

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From aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU  Wed Sep 18 15:32:41 2013
From: aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU (Alina Israeli)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:32:41 -0400
Subject: [w] for [v] in the speech of Russians speaking English
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I don't think anyone has mentioned yet (unless I missed it) that some  
phoneticians treat Russian [v] as semi-sonorant; it used to be a  
sonorant in Old Russian and did not loose all of its sonorant  
qualities. For example consonants before [v] do not assimilate, just  
like before other sonorants:

к воде [kv]
к беде [gb]
к маме [km]

It's not only systemic but also phonetic and articulatory, Russians  
don't bite the lip unlike French, for ex. Teeth don't even touch the  
outside of the lip, but rather somewhere inside the mouth, barely  
touching the flesh under the lip.

Consequently, the sound produced, which is for Russians a [v] may be  
perceived by speakers of other languages as [w] (not in that video  
clip where she clearly confuses the two), but in the context of a  
Russian accent.

On Sep 18, 2013, at 4:52 AM, Piper Wheeler wrote:

> I've often wondered about this, due not least to my first Russian  
> teacher substituting the "w" in English *only* in the word  
> "village" (=willage). Because I've since noticed this particular  
> pronunciation in a number of Russians whose English is otherwise  
> very correct, I've thought the "w" cropped up due to the short "ih"  
> sound that's so foreign to native Russian speakers. This isn't a  
> rigorously, linguistically informed opinion, and I'm interested to  
> hear more reasoned answers.
> It does seem, though, that the "w" appears before phonemes that are  
> rare or nonexistent in Russian-- so we see "wery" and "willage." I  
> don't think any Slavic native speaker would say woracious, Kurt  
> Wonnegut, woodoo, or wandal (=vandal). For example.
> PW
>

Alina Israeli
Associate Professor of Russian
WLC, American University
4400 Massachusetts Ave.
Washington DC 20016
(202) 885-2387 	fax (202) 885-1076
aisrael at american.edu






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From jane.vlasova at GMAIL.COM  Wed Sep 18 16:35:12 2013
From: jane.vlasova at GMAIL.COM (Eugenia Vlasova)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:35:12 -0500
Subject: [w] for [v] in the speech of Russians speaking English
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I'm Russian, has been living in Canada for three years, and I have to admit that sometimes I do mix w and v. For example, a phrase "I'll pay for it with the visa" is freaking me out. I usually pronounce it like "with the wisa" or even "with the witha". When w and v are one after another, it is nearly impossible to switch from w to v and vice versa. 

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From devilsbit06 at YAHOO.COM  Wed Sep 18 20:01:34 2013
From: devilsbit06 at YAHOO.COM (J P Maher)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 13:01:34 -0700
Subject: [w] for [v] in the speech of Russians speaking English
In-Reply-To: <CD1238CF-36D0-40D5-8C81-19378C291A7F@american.edu>
Message-ID: <WED.18.SEP.2013.130134.0700.JPMAHER@NEIU.EDU>

EXCELLENT. Rus /v/ and /m/ are voiced by default but have no opposing voiceless counterparts, such as/b p, d t/...
jpm
 

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 From: Alina Israeli <aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU>
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] [w] for [v] in the speech of Russians speaking English
  


I don't think anyone has mentioned yet (unless I missed it) that some phoneticians treat Russian [v] as semi-sonorant; it used to be a sonorant in Old Russian and did not loose all of its sonorant qualities. For example consonants before [v] do not assimilate, just like before other sonorants:

к воде [kv]
к беде [gb]
к маме [km]

It's not only systemic but also phonetic and articulatory, Russians don't bite the lip unlike French, for ex. Teeth don't even touch the outside of the lip, but rather somewhere inside the mouth, barely touching the flesh under the lip. 

Consequently, the sound produced, which is for Russians a [v] may be perceived by speakers of other languages as [w] (not in that video clip where she clearly confuses the two), but in the context of a Russian accent.

On Sep 18, 2013, at 4:52 AM, Piper Wheeler wrote:

I've often wondered about this, due not least to my first Russian teacher substituting the "w" in English *only* in the word "village" (=willage). Because I've since noticed this particular pronunciation in a number of Russians whose English is otherwise very correct, I've thought the "w" cropped up due to the short "ih" sound that's so foreign to native Russian speakers. This isn't a rigorously, linguistically informed opinion, and I'm interested to hear more reasoned answers.
>It does seem, though, that the "w" appears before phonemes that are rare or nonexistent in Russian-- so we see "wery" and "willage." I don't think any Slavic native speaker would say woracious, Kurt Wonnegut, woodoo, or wandal (=vandal). For example. 
>PW
>
>

Alina Israeli
Associate Professor of Russian
WLC, American University
4400 Massachusetts Ave.
Washington DC 20016
(202) 885-2387 fax (202) 885-1076
aisrael at american.edu




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From rifkin at TCNJ.EDU  Wed Sep 18 21:11:50 2013
From: rifkin at TCNJ.EDU (Benjamin Rifkin)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 17:11:50 -0400
Subject: Thanks to Alex Rudd
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Dear SEELANGers:

Please join me in thanking Alex Rudd for his tremendous dedication of SEELANGs.  Many of us find this community to be an important resource for us in our work as scholars, teachers, and translators.  

The shift of a listserv from one site to another can be an extraordinary effort and we all owe Alex a debt of gratitude for his continuing support of our community.

Sincerely,

Ben Rifkin
The College of New Jersey

 
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From wfr at SAS.AC.UK  Wed Sep 18 21:52:16 2013
From: wfr at SAS.AC.UK (william ryan)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 22:52:16 +0100
Subject: Thanks to Alex Rudd
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I second that enthusiastically
Will

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On 18/09/2013 22:11, Benjamin Rifkin wrote:
> Dear SEELANGers:
>
> Please join me in thanking Alex Rudd for his tremendous dedication of SEELANGs.  Many of us find this community to be an important resource for us in our work as scholars, teachers, and translators.
>
> The shift of a listserv from one site to another can be an extraordinary effort and we all owe Alex a debt of gratitude for his continuing support of our community.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Ben Rifkin
> The College of New Jersey
>
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From frosset at WHEATONMA.EDU  Wed Sep 18 22:56:43 2013
From: frosset at WHEATONMA.EDU (Francoise Rosset)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 18:56:43 -0400
Subject: Thanks to Alex Rudd
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Absolutely!!
This list is an incredible resource for so many of us.
Thank you, Alex,
-FR




On 18/09/2013 22:11, Benjamin Rifkin wrote:

>  Dear SEELANGers:
>
> Please join me in thanking Alex Rudd for his tremendous dedication of SEELANGs.
>
> --
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Chair, Russian and Russian Studies
Wheaton College, Norton MA 02766
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From greniers at GEORGETOWN.EDU  Wed Sep 18 23:29:28 2013
From: greniers at GEORGETOWN.EDU (Svetlana Grenier)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 19:29:28 -0400
Subject: Thanks to Alex Rudd
In-Reply-To: <CAHZzm+Y5hWBUw=ZT4GJ_hY=uJ3sDQS9UVP_FvWK6d1XcSUnh3w@mail.gmail.com>
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I agree!
Svetlana Grenier


On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Francoise Rosset <frosset at wheatonma.edu>wrote:

> Absolutely!!
> This list is an incredible resource for so many of us.
> Thank you, Alex,
> -FR
>
>
>
>
> On 18/09/2013 22:11, Benjamin Rifkin wrote:
>
>>  Dear SEELANGers:
>>
>> Please join me in thanking Alex Rudd for his tremendous dedication of SEELANGs.
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From bliss.mst at GMAIL.COM  Wed Sep 18 23:37:31 2013
From: bliss.mst at GMAIL.COM (Liv Bliss)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 18:37:31 -0500
Subject: Thanks to Alex Rudd
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Alex Who? No, kidding: I remember with gratitude the prompt and personal attention he gave me when I was having problems signing in these many moons ago. Our Alex is a prince among men.


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From agregovich at GMAIL.COM  Wed Sep 18 23:34:55 2013
From: agregovich at GMAIL.COM (Andrea Gregovich)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 15:34:55 -0800
Subject: Thanks to Alex Rudd
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Agreed!  I was really flying blind with my translations before I found this
list. -- Andrea Gregovich


On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Francoise Rosset <frosset at wheatonma.edu>wrote:

> Absolutely!!
> This list is an incredible resource for so many of us.
> Thank you, Alex,
> -FR
>
>
>
>
> On 18/09/2013 22:11, Benjamin Rifkin wrote:
>
>>  Dear SEELANGers:
>>
>> Please join me in thanking Alex Rudd for his tremendous dedication of SEELANGs.
>>
>> --
> Françoise Rosset
> Chair, Russian and Russian Studies
> Wheaton College, Norton MA 02766
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> FAX #:     508-286-3640
> frosset at wheatonma.edu
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From nakol at UNM.EDU  Thu Sep 19 00:27:38 2013
From: nakol at UNM.EDU (Natasha Kolchevska)
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 00:27:38 +0000
Subject: Thanks to Alex Rudd
In-Reply-To: <CAFrOSKiVOmEOB=pg6i12nRUPYcj720aCiP8LBRewAkRkUnRt5w@mail.gmail.com>
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My thanks as well, for past and current service!  I hope your department recognizes it appropriately as well.
Dr. Natasha Kolchevska
Professor of Russian Emerita
Dept. of Foreign Languages and Literatures
University of New Mexico
Albuquerque, NM 87131

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Agreed!  I was really flying blind with my translations before I found this list. -- Andrea Gregovich


On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Francoise Rosset <frosset at wheatonma.edu<mailto:frosset at wheatonma.edu>> wrote:
Absolutely!!
This list is an incredible resource for so many of us.
Thank you, Alex,
-FR




On 18/09/2013 22:11, Benjamin Rifkin wrote:

Dear SEELANGers:

Please join me in thanking Alex Rudd for his tremendous dedication of SEELANGs.

--
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Chair, Russian and Russian Studies
Wheaton College, Norton MA 02766
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From jw at KANADACHA.CA  Thu Sep 19 00:50:24 2013
From: jw at KANADACHA.CA (J.W.)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 20:50:24 -0400
Subject: Thanks to Alex Rudd
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Ottawa, Wednesday 18/9/2013 20h45 EDT

Да, огромное спасибо и наилучшие пожелания!

Браво, Алекс!

Дж. Вудсворт (John Woodsworth)
http://kanadacha.ca

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From linda.scatton at GMAIL.COM  Wed Sep 18 21:26:35 2013
From: linda.scatton at GMAIL.COM (Linda Scatton)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 17:26:35 -0400
Subject: Thanks to Alex Rudd
In-Reply-To: <0EAB585A-3132-489B-9122-AD0D32553059@tcnj.edu>
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I second this thought. Thank you, Alex Rudd!
Linda Scatton
On Sep 18, 2013 5:19 PM, "Benjamin Rifkin" <rifkin at tcnj.edu> wrote:

> Dear SEELANGers:
>
> Please join me in thanking Alex Rudd for his tremendous dedication of
> SEELANGs.  Many of us find this community to be an important resource for
> us in our work as scholars, teachers, and translators.
>
> The shift of a listserv from one site to another can be an extraordinary
> effort and we all owe Alex a debt of gratitude for his continuing support
> of our community.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Ben Rifkin
> The College of New Jersey
>
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From colkitto at ROGERS.COM  Thu Sep 19 02:11:15 2013
From: colkitto at ROGERS.COM (Robert Orr)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 22:11:15 -0400
Subject: Thanks to Alex!
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I'd like to add a note of appreciation for Alex as well.


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From baiterek at HOTMAIL.COM  Thu Sep 19 08:20:43 2013
From: baiterek at HOTMAIL.COM (Ian)
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 04:20:43 -0400
Subject: Rise in Russian Enrollment Fall Semester=?windows-1256?Q?=FE?=
Message-ID: <THU.19.SEP.2013.042043.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

I am investigating a possible trend for the Moscow Times and was curious if first year Russian courses in the US have seen a significant increase in enrollment this semester, and if so why you think that might be.  Input very much appreciated.  Feel free to respond here or to i.bateson at imedia.ru.  

Best,
Ian Bateson  		 	   		  

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From mshevche at UMICH.EDU  Thu Sep 19 08:45:14 2013
From: mshevche at UMICH.EDU (Mila Shevchenko)
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 04:45:14 -0400
Subject: Thanks to Alex Rudd
In-Reply-To: <CAPwQL1C=q_OfkMSRU0ao3CadJzfG4OR=yWWwXf7XUDets_fz9w@mail.gmail.com>
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I cannot agree more. Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Mila Shevchenko
Ass. Professor of Russian
Ohio University


On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 8:50 PM, J.W. <jw at kanadacha.ca> wrote:

> Ottawa, Wednesday 18/9/2013 20h45 EDT
>
> Да, огромное спасибо и наилучшие пожелания!
>
> Браво, Алекс!
>
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> http://kanadacha.ca
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From Janneke.vandeStadt at WILLIAMS.EDU  Thu Sep 19 10:21:20 2013
From: Janneke.vandeStadt at WILLIAMS.EDU (Janneke van de Stadt)
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 06:21:20 -0400
Subject: Rise in Russian Enrollment Fall Semester=?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=8F?=
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Dear Ian,

At Williams we are net experiencing an increase of any kind, alas.  I would be very interested to hear if other institutions are seeing something different and why, so might I ask that folks respond to the list?

Many thanks!

Janneke

On Sep 19, 2013, at 4:20 AM, Ian <baiterek at HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:

> I am investigating a possible trend for the Moscow Times and was curious if first year Russian courses in the US have seen a significant increase in enrollment this semester, and if so why you think that might be.  Input very much appreciated.  Feel free to respond here or to i.bateson at imedia.ru.  
> 
> 
> Best,
> 
> Ian Bateson 
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From sarahnhurst at GMAIL.COM  Thu Sep 19 10:24:23 2013
From: sarahnhurst at GMAIL.COM (Sarah Hurst)
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 11:24:23 +0100
Subject: Rise in Russian Enrollment Fall Semester
In-Reply-To: <6722DA9C-6E40-486E-8CE1-D8CC4F2863F1@williams.edu>
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I would also like to hear about it. I would be extremely surprised.
Firstly, because languages are probably being seen as less valuable with
the ease of computer translation that's available. Secondly, because of the
political situation in Russia. And if for some reason there had been an
increase in enrollment this year, I don't think it would be statistically
meaningful.

Sarah Hurst


On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Janneke van de Stadt <
Janneke.vandeStadt at williams.edu> wrote:

> Dear Ian,
>
> At Williams we are net experiencing an increase of any kind, alas.  I
> would be very interested to hear if other institutions are seeing something
> different and why, so might I ask that folks respond to the list?
>
> Many thanks!
>
> Janneke
>
> On Sep 19, 2013, at 4:20 AM, Ian <baiterek at HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> I am investigating a possible trend for the Moscow Times and was curious
> if first year Russian courses in the US have seen a significant increase in
> enrollment this semester, and if so why you think that might be.  Input
> very much appreciated.  Feel free to respond here or to
> i.bateson at imedia.ru.
>
>
> Best,
>
> Ian Bateson
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From robinso at STOLAF.EDU  Thu Sep 19 11:13:09 2013
From: robinso at STOLAF.EDU (Marc Robinson)
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 06:13:09 -0500
Subject: Rise in Russian Enrollment Fall Semester
In-Reply-To: <6722DA9C-6E40-486E-8CE1-D8CC4F2863F1@williams.edu>
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Dear Ian,

At St. Olaf College, no increase either, though our numbers have stayed
quite high generally.  We have 35 in beginning Russian.  That's slightly
down from last year, I believe - but due to unforeseen circumstances last
year our entire department was gone due to sabbaticals and medical leaves.
We are back full force now and things seem pretty much like before: 35 in
first year 24 in second year, 14 in third year and 10 studying abroad in
senior year.

I'm also interested in finding out if others are experiencing increases in
enrollments.

Thanks,
Marc Robinson, Chair
St. Olaf College


On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 5:21 AM, Janneke van de Stadt <
Janneke.vandeStadt at williams.edu> wrote:

> Dear Ian,
>
> At Williams we are net experiencing an increase of any kind, alas.  I
> would be very interested to hear if other institutions are seeing something
> different and why, so might I ask that folks respond to the list?
>
> Many thanks!
>
> Janneke
>
> On Sep 19, 2013, at 4:20 AM, Ian <baiterek at HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> I am investigating a possible trend for the Moscow Times and was curious
> if first year Russian courses in the US have seen a significant increase in
> enrollment this semester, and if so why you think that might be.  Input
> very much appreciated.  Feel free to respond here or to
> i.bateson at imedia.ru.
>
>
> Best,
>
> Ian Bateson
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From rrobin at EMAIL.GWU.EDU  Thu Sep 19 11:38:33 2013
From: rrobin at EMAIL.GWU.EDU (Richard Robin)
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 07:38:33 -0400
Subject: Rise in Russian Enrollment Fall Semester=?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=8F?=
In-Reply-To: <BLU173-W28B18B53065E901182FDF8C8210@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <THU.19.SEP.2013.073833.0400.>

George Washington University Russian fall enrollments:

First Year Intensive: *2013:  8*; 2012: 12; 2011: 10; 2010: 12
First Year Regular:   *2013: 35*; 2012: 32; 2011: 39; 2010: 45

Of course, second, third and fourth-year enrollments (not listed here)
reflect the first year numbers from their corresponding start years.
However, this fall, we have overflowing enrollments in fourth year language
and literature. This is because of two anomalous factors:

1.  This year, about a third of the fourth year class is populated by
heritage speakers, mostly people who took our intro heritage course but
wanted to continue higher level language study.

2.  Fewer people in Russia. Usually the fall fourth year is under threat of
cancellation because so many people are on study abroad. But this year that
number is much smaller.

-Richard Robin


On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Ian <baiterek at hotmail.com> wrote:

> I am investigating a possible trend for the Moscow Times and was curious
> if first year Russian courses in the US have seen a significant increase in
> enrollment this semester, and if so why you think that might be.  Input
> very much appreciated.  Feel free to respond here or to
> i.bateson at imedia.ru.
>
>
> Best,
>
> Ian Bateson
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Director Russian Language Program
Academy of Distinguished Teachers
The George Washington University
Washington, DC 20052
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From msaskova-pierce1 at UNL.EDU  Thu Sep 19 12:20:36 2013
From: msaskova-pierce1 at UNL.EDU (Mila Saskova-Pierce)
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 12:20:36 +0000
Subject: Rise in Russian Enrollment Fall Semester
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Message-ID: <THU.19.SEP.2013.122036.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

University of Nebraska
Russian 30 First Year;  16 Second Year; 10 Third year.
Czech 9 First Year; 7 Second Year; 3 Third year


Dr. Mila Saskova-Pierce
Other Languages Section Head
Department of Modern Languages
1219 Oldfather Hall
University of Nebraska at Lincoln
NE 68588-0315

e-mail:  msaskova-pierce1 at unl.edu

Tel:  (402) 472 1336
Fax: (402) 472 0327



From: SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures list [mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Marc Robinson
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 6:13 AM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Rise in Russian Enrollment Fall Semester

Dear Ian,

At St. Olaf College, no increase either, though our numbers have stayed quite high generally.  We have 35 in beginning Russian.  That's slightly down from last year, I believe - but due to unforeseen circumstances last year our entire department was gone due to sabbaticals and medical leaves. We are back full force now and things seem pretty much like before: 35 in first year 24 in second year, 14 in third year and 10 studying abroad in senior year.

I'm also interested in finding out if others are experiencing increases in enrollments.

Thanks,
Marc Robinson, Chair
St. Olaf College

On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 5:21 AM, Janneke van de Stadt <Janneke.vandeStadt at williams.edu<mailto:Janneke.vandeStadt at williams.edu>> wrote:
Dear Ian,

At Williams we are net experiencing an increase of any kind, alas.  I would be very interested to hear if other institutions are seeing something different and why, so might I ask that folks respond to the list?

Many thanks!

Janneke

On Sep 19, 2013, at 4:20 AM, Ian <baiterek at HOTMAIL.COM<mailto:baiterek at HOTMAIL.COM>> wrote:


I am investigating a possible trend for the Moscow Times and was curious if first year Russian courses in the US have seen a significant increase in enrollment this semester, and if so why you think that might be.  Input very much appreciated.  Feel free to respond here or to i.bateson at imedia.ru<mailto:i.bateson at imedia.ru>.


Best,

Ian Bateson
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From simon at SIMONBEATTIE.CO.UK  Thu Sep 19 12:50:36 2013
From: simon at SIMONBEATTIE.CO.UK (Simon Beattie)
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 12:50:36 +0000
Subject: Kiev man finds dog that looks like Putin
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Well, it's almost Friday...  This was just forwarded to me by a friend:

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/kiev-man-finds-dog-that-looks-like-putin-photo/486320.html

Simon


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From mfrazier at SARAHLAWRENCE.EDU  Thu Sep 19 12:51:43 2013
From: mfrazier at SARAHLAWRENCE.EDU (Melissa Frazier)
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 08:51:43 -0400
Subject: Rise in Russian Enrollment Fall Semester
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At my very small institution, Sarah Lawrence, I have been overwhelmed with students this year, for the first time ever I have 15 in Beginning (that's our maximum) and I had to turn away 2 auditors, and of last year's 10 Beginners, 8 have continued on to second-year (and the remaining 2 aren't here, i.e. one graduated and one is studying in Cuba), I also have 4 in "advanced".  I have been wondering if Putin hasn't been doing me a favor by putting Russia back in the news, but I also have no one studying in Russia this year; we'll see about next year.

Thanks,

Melissa Frazier
  
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Melissa Frazier
Russian Language and Literature
Sarah Lawrence College
1 Mead Way
Bronxville, NY 10708
914-395-2295
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Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Rise in Russian Enrollment Fall Semester

University of Nebraska
Russian 30 First Year;  16 Second Year; 10 Third year.
Czech 9 First Year; 7 Second Year; 3 Third year


Dr. Mila Saskova-Pierce
Other Languages Section Head
Department of Modern Languages
1219 Oldfather Hall
University of Nebraska at Lincoln
NE 68588-0315

e-mail:  msaskova-pierce1 at unl.edu

Tel:  (402) 472 1336
Fax: (402) 472 0327



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Dear Ian,

At St. Olaf College, no increase either, though our numbers have stayed quite high generally.  We have 35 in beginning Russian.  That's slightly down from last year, I believe - but due to unforeseen circumstances last year our entire department was gone due to sabbaticals and medical leaves. We are back full force now and things seem pretty much like before: 35 in first year 24 in second year, 14 in third year and 10 studying abroad in senior year.

I'm also interested in finding out if others are experiencing increases in enrollments.

Thanks,
Marc Robinson, Chair
St. Olaf College

On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 5:21 AM, Janneke van de Stadt <Janneke.vandeStadt at williams.edu<mailto:Janneke.vandeStadt at williams.edu>> wrote:
Dear Ian,

At Williams we are net experiencing an increase of any kind, alas.  I would be very interested to hear if other institutions are seeing something different and why, so might I ask that folks respond to the list?

Many thanks!

Janneke

On Sep 19, 2013, at 4:20 AM, Ian <baiterek at HOTMAIL.COM<mailto:baiterek at HOTMAIL.COM>> wrote:


I am investigating a possible trend for the Moscow Times and was curious if first year Russian courses in the US have seen a significant increase in enrollment this semester, and if so why you think that might be.  Input very much appreciated.  Feel free to respond here or to i.bateson at imedia.ru<mailto:i.bateson at imedia.ru>.


Best,

Ian Bateson
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From baiterek at HOTMAIL.COM  Thu Sep 19 12:47:24 2013
From: baiterek at HOTMAIL.COM (Ian)
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 08:47:24 -0400
Subject: Rise in Russian Enrollment Fall Semester
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Thank you Mila, has there been any increase since last year though in first semester enrollment? 

Best,

Ian 

Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 12:20:36 +0000
From: msaskova-pierce1 at UNL.EDU
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Rise in Russian Enrollment Fall Semester
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU









University of Nebraska
Russian 30 First Year;  16 Second Year; 10 Third year.

Czech 9 First Year; 7 Second Year; 3 Third year
 
 
Dr. Mila Saskova-Pierce

Other Languages Section Head

Department of Modern Languages

1219 Oldfather Hall

University of Nebraska at Lincoln

NE 68588-0315



e-mail:  msaskova-pierce1 at unl.edu



Tel:  (402) 472 1336

Fax: (402) 472 0327
 
 
 
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On Behalf Of Marc Robinson

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Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Rise in Russian Enrollment Fall Semester
 


Dear Ian,


 


At St. Olaf College, no increase either, though our numbers have stayed quite high generally.  We have 35 in beginning Russian.  That's slightly down from last year, I believe - but due to unforeseen circumstances last year our entire department
 was gone due to sabbaticals and medical leaves. We are back full force now and things seem pretty much like before: 35 in first year 24 in second year, 14 in third year and 10 studying abroad in senior year.


 


I'm also interested in finding out if others are experiencing increases in enrollments.


 


Thanks,


Marc Robinson, Chair


St. Olaf College



 

On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 5:21 AM, Janneke van de Stadt <Janneke.vandeStadt at williams.edu> wrote:

Dear Ian,

 


At Williams we are net experiencing an increase of any kind, alas.  I would be very interested to hear if other institutions are seeing something different and why, so might I ask that folks respond to the list?


 


Many thanks!


 


Janneke




 


On Sep 19, 2013, at 4:20 AM, Ian <baiterek at HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:








I am investigating a possible trend for the Moscow Times and was curious if first year Russian courses in the US have seen a significant increase in enrollment this semester,
 and if so why you think that might be.  Input very much appreciated.  Feel free to respond here or to i.bateson at imedia.ru.  


 


 


Best,


 


Ian Bateson 



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From eec3c at ESERVICES.VIRGINIA.EDU  Thu Sep 19 13:10:30 2013
From: eec3c at ESERVICES.VIRGINIA.EDU (Clowes, Edith (eec3c))
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 13:10:30 +0000
Subject: Rise in Russian Enrollment Fall Semester
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Dear Ian et al.,

Virginia has seen a dramatic rise in first-year enrollments over fall, 2012,
which, granted, was abnormally low. Usually, over the last 5-6 years the first-year
enrollments have hovered around 50.
2013: 54
2012: 35
2011: 52
2010: 47
2009: 51
2008: 48

Also, traditionally robust 2nd (26), 3rd (21), and 4th (12) year enrollments for this fall.

Edith

Edith W. Clowes
Brown-Forman Professor of Slavic Languages and Literatures
108 Halsey Annex C
University of Virginia
Charlottesville, VA  22904
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Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Rise in Russian Enrollment Fall Semester

University of Nebraska
Russian 30 First Year;  16 Second Year; 10 Third year.
Czech 9 First Year; 7 Second Year; 3 Third year


Dr. Mila Saskova-Pierce
Other Languages Section Head
Department of Modern Languages
1219 Oldfather Hall
University of Nebraska at Lincoln
NE 68588-0315

e-mail:  msaskova-pierce1 at unl.edu

Tel:  (402) 472 1336
Fax: (402) 472 0327



From: SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures list [mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Marc Robinson
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 6:13 AM
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Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Rise in Russian Enrollment Fall Semester

Dear Ian,

At St. Olaf College, no increase either, though our numbers have stayed quite high generally.  We have 35 in beginning Russian.  That's slightly down from last year, I believe - but due to unforeseen circumstances last year our entire department was gone due to sabbaticals and medical leaves. We are back full force now and things seem pretty much like before: 35 in first year 24 in second year, 14 in third year and 10 studying abroad in senior year.

I'm also interested in finding out if others are experiencing increases in enrollments.

Thanks,
Marc Robinson, Chair
St. Olaf College

On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 5:21 AM, Janneke van de Stadt <Janneke.vandeStadt at williams.edu<mailto:Janneke.vandeStadt at williams.edu>> wrote:
Dear Ian,

At Williams we are net experiencing an increase of any kind, alas.  I would be very interested to hear if other institutions are seeing something different and why, so might I ask that folks respond to the list?

Many thanks!

Janneke

On Sep 19, 2013, at 4:20 AM, Ian <baiterek at HOTMAIL.COM<mailto:baiterek at HOTMAIL.COM>> wrote:


I am investigating a possible trend for the Moscow Times and was curious if first year Russian courses in the US have seen a significant increase in enrollment this semester, and if so why you think that might be.  Input very much appreciated.  Feel free to respond here or to i.bateson at imedia.ru<mailto:i.bateson at imedia.ru>.


Best,

Ian Bateson
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From robinson.spencer at GMAIL.COM  Thu Sep 19 13:36:31 2013
From: robinson.spencer at GMAIL.COM (Spencer Robinson)
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 09:36:31 -0400
Subject: Rise in Russian Enrollment Fall Semester=?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=8F?=
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Dear Ian,

At Ohio State University we have 125 students registered for Russian 1101.
This is up from last year's enrollment of 85. As to the reason why this has
happened, I'm not certain.

With best wishes,
Spencer Robinson


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On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Ian <baiterek at hotmail.com> wrote:

> I am investigating a possible trend for the Moscow Times and was curious
> if first year Russian courses in the US have seen a significant increase in
> enrollment this semester, and if so why you think that might be.  Input
> very much appreciated.  Feel free to respond here or to
> i.bateson at imedia.ru.
>
>
> Best,
>
> Ian Bateson
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From jschill at AMERICAN.EDU  Thu Sep 19 13:55:11 2013
From: jschill at AMERICAN.EDU (John Schillinger)
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 09:55:11 -0400
Subject: Russian Enrollment Fall Semester: CCPCR Census
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Dear colleague!

	In regard to the query about increases in Russian enrollment, here's a good way to find out:

	The Fall 2013 census of college and university Russian programs is now in progress.   We are requesting your current enrollments now that the semester is underway and your class numbers have, for the most part, stabilized.   Hopefully, things have settled down for the fall semester, and we'd appreciate it if you would please take a couple of minutes to help us (and you!)  follow the national trends in our discipline.   Last year's data continuied to reflect stability and some growth in enrollments, but this year's data could identify a new trend.  Over 80 college and university programs responded with their numbers in fall 2012.

	As in the past, we are requesting your 1st and 2nd year enrollments in Russian.  In addition to Russian, we are also listing any OTHER SLAVIC and EE LANGUAGES taught at your institution.  Over 80 institutions responded last year, and their data is now available on the website (just click on the website address below to get to the home page and the College/University enrollment data).  Along with your Russian enrollments, we will list those additional languages; and if you have the data, the enrollments at the first and 2nd year levels in those languages.

	You can easily access the CCPCR website to view past responses from your program and others around the country by clicking on the website  address below.   There you will find the display of last year's data and Russian enrollments dating back to 2002 by selecting the College Enrollment link on the home page.  Other Slavic and EE language data is provided for the past two years.

	Please respond with your information by selecting our e-mail address: ccpcr at american.edu.  This link is also available on the home page  in the College and University enrollments section. 

	 If If you don't have access to your Russian enrollment numbers, but can provide a list of the Slavic and EE languages taught at the 1st and 2nd year levels, please send that.  A national overview of the extent of our offerings in Slavic and EE languages, or at least a sense of the extent, will emerge from your responses to give the profession a better idea of the distribution and depth of such courses across the country.

Many thanks for providing your program's data!

John

John Schillinger, Emeritus Prof. of Russian
American University, Washington, DC
Chair, CCPCR
Committee on College and Pre-College Russian
e-mail: ccpcr at american.edu
website:
http://www1.american.edu/research/CCPCR/



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From aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU  Thu Sep 19 14:41:42 2013
From: aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU (Alina Israeli)
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 10:41:42 -0400
Subject: Rise in Russian Enrollment Fall Semester=?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=8F?=
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At American the first 3 years are about the same, maybe a tiny bit  
smaller for Elementary, but at the higher levels a big surge this  
year, mostly due to the high number of heritage students. Also more  
graduate students than usual are taking Russian this fall.

Elementary 54
Intermediate 32
Third year 	15
Translation	17
Advanced grammar 8


Alina Israeli
Associate Professor of Russian
WLC, American University
4400 Massachusetts Ave.
Washington DC 20016
(202) 885-2387 	fax (202) 885-1076
aisrael at american.edu






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From richmond at OXY.EDU  Thu Sep 19 15:20:54 2013
From: richmond at OXY.EDU (Walt Richmond)
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 08:20:54 -0700
Subject: Rise in Russian Enrollment Fall Semester
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At Occidental College, enrollments in first year Russian have been very
slowly decreasing over the last three-four years. This year continues that
trend. Second year has shown an increase, but that’s simply because I found
a way to avoid a lot of course conflicts that kept interested students from
continuing.



Best,

Walt Richmond


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At American the first 3 years are about the same, maybe a tiny bit smaller
for Elementary, but at the higher levels a big surge this year, mostly due
to the high number of heritage students. Also more graduate students than
usual are taking Russian this fall.



Elementary 54

Intermediate 32

Third year        15

Translation      17

Advanced grammar 8





Alina Israeli

Associate Professor of Russian

WLC, American University

4400 Massachusetts Ave.

Washington DC 20016

(202) 885-2387    fax (202) 885-1076

aisrael at american.edu










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From alex.rudd at GMAIL.COM  Thu Sep 19 19:38:07 2013
From: alex.rudd at GMAIL.COM (Alex Rudd)
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 12:38:07 -0700
Subject: Thanks to Alex Rudd
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On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Benjamin Rifkin <rifkin at tcnj.edu> wrote:
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From: mwarchol at AMERICANCOUNCILS.ORG (Michael Warchol)
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 20:18:18 +0000
Subject: ACTR Study Abroad Programs in Russia: Spring Deadline Approaching
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From frosset at WHEATONMA.EDU  Thu Sep 19 20:07:32 2013
From: frosset at WHEATONMA.EDU (Francoise Rosset)
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 16:07:32 -0400
Subject: Rise in Russian Enrollment Fall Semester
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FIRST, our answer to the original question is that we have twice as many
students as last year in Beginning Russian, 19 instead of 10, in a small
private lib arts college of approx. 1,600, so roughly like Sarah Lawrence.
BUT that's probably because we decided to open up a second section of
Russian-One, at a different time, and we got 8 and 12, now 8 and 11.
(German did it ten years ago and their increased enrollments still hold,
though their retention rate into second-year is not a "good" as ours.)
Oh, and my colleague and I are co-teaching that second section ... as an
overload. The jury's still out but it appears opening up another section
helps.
If anyone wonders, we get only 1-2 heritage students a year.

SECOND, I want to draw attention to what Walt did to keep more students in
second year. Clever, and he got results.

Here at Wheaton, we comb the schedule and check with other departments
(esp. History, Econ and PoliSci) to try and avoid conflicts with our
second-year and advanced classes. And we have on occasion changed our
schedule. For years we had an arrangement with Poli Sci that none of their
four Russian politics courses would be taught MWF, and we left TTh alone.
Then complications set in, but we still check with each other.
This term History checked with *us* before scheduling their Russian History
course !!!

Best,
-FR




On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Walt Richmond <richmond at oxy.edu> wrote:

>  At Occidental College, enrollments in first year Russian have been very
> slowly decreasing over the last three-four years. This year continues that
> trend. Second year has shown an increase, but that’s simply because I found
> a way to avoid a lot of course conflicts that kept interested students from
> continuing.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Walt Richmond
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures list
> [mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Alina Israeli
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 19, 2013 7:42 AM
> *To:* SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: [SEELANGS] Rise in Russian Enrollment Fall Semester
>
>
>
> At American the first 3 years are about the same, maybe a tiny bit smaller
> for Elementary, but at the higher levels a big surge this year, mostly due
> to the high number of heritage students. Also more graduate students than
> usual are taking Russian this fall.
>
>
>
> Elementary 54
>
> Intermediate 32
>
> Third year        15
>
> Translation      17
>
> Advanced grammar 8
>
>
>
>
>
> Alina Israeli
>
> Associate Professor of Russian
>
> WLC, American University
>
> 4400 Massachusetts Ave.
>
> Washington DC 20016
>
> (202) 885-2387    fax (202) 885-1076
>
> aisrael at american.edu
>
>
>

-- 
Françoise Rosset
Chair, Russian and Russian Studies
Wheaton College, Norton MA 02766
office:     508-286-3696
FAX #:     508-286-3640
frosset at wheatonma.edu

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From msaskova-pierce1 at UNL.EDU  Thu Sep 19 20:23:30 2013
From: msaskova-pierce1 at UNL.EDU (Mila Saskova-Pierce)
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 20:23:30 +0000
Subject: Rise in Russian Enrollment Fall Semester
Message-ID: <THU.19.SEP.2013.202330.0000.MSASKOVAPIERCE1@UNL.EDU>

Dear Ian, unfortunately no icrease. Rather a 10% decrease, perhaps because of 100% rise in competing Arabic. In CZech it is steady in comparison with last year. All the best. Mila


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S®4



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Thank you Mila, has there been any increase since last year though in first semester enrollment?

Best,

Ian

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From kalbouss at MAC.COM  Fri Sep 20 15:00:55 2013
From: kalbouss at MAC.COM (George Kalbouss)
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 11:00:55 -0400
Subject: John McCain in Pravda.ru
In-Reply-To: <CAHZzm+ZvyOoz6q0FDGkWsL4fZvRPTfVSMVh-4dCsyMExQUaG9g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.20.SEP.2013.110055.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

A question has arisen from my colleagues in Political Science regarding John McCain's recent
letter published in Pravda.ru excoriating Vladimir Putin.    This is  not Pravda, as I gather, the 
Communist Party publication, but an internet publication bearing almost
the same name.

The question, simply, is, "do Russians read Pravda.ru?" -- in other words, did McCain reach
any Russians buy publishing it there?    If you were to advise McCain, where
would you recommend his letter be published so that the majority of Russian citizens could
see it (assuming, of course, it would be published)?

Thanks,

George Kalbouss
The Ohio State University

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From rifkin at TCNJ.EDU  Fri Sep 20 15:09:46 2013
From: rifkin at TCNJ.EDU (Benjamin Rifkin)
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 11:09:46 -0400
Subject: John McCain in Pravda.ru
In-Reply-To: <B86ADCCA-A67F-4797-A366-A29580444BAC@mac.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.20.SEP.2013.110946.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Dear SEELANGers:

Matt Taibbi, a journalist at Rolling Stone who lived in Moscow for a number of years, was interviewed last night on MSNBC on this very topic.  Here's the clip:

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/all-in-/53057191#53057191

In short, Pravda ain't what it used to be.  And it wasn't Pravda then either, so to speak.  (Of course.)

I remember the old joke about the guy who goes up to the kiosk, Soviet era, to buy a newspaper:

– Есть «Правда»?
– «Правды» нет.
– А «Советская Россия»?
– Продана.
– А что есть?
– Только «Труд» за 2 копейки.

Best wishes,

Ben Rifkin
The College of New Jersey


On Sep 20, 2013, at 11:00 AM, George Kalbouss <kalbouss at MAC.COM> wrote:

> A question has arisen from my colleagues in Political Science regarding John McCain's recent
> letter published in Pravda.ru excoriating Vladimir Putin.    This is  not Pravda, as I gather, the 
> Communist Party publication, but an internet publication bearing almost
> the same name.
> 
> The question, simply, is, "do Russians read Pravda.ru?" -- in other words, did McCain reach
> any Russians buy publishing it there?    If you were to advise McCain, where
> would you recommend his letter be published so that the majority of Russian citizens could
> see it (assuming, of course, it would be published)?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> George Kalbouss
> The Ohio State University
> 
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From John.Dunn at GLASGOW.AC.UK  Fri Sep 20 15:58:13 2013
From: John.Dunn at GLASGOW.AC.UK (John Dunn)
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 16:58:13 +0100
Subject: John McCain in Pravda.ru
In-Reply-To: <B86ADCCA-A67F-4797-A366-A29580444BAC@mac.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.20.SEP.2013.165813.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

I suppose the clip that Ben Rifkin sent round answers the first question.  The second question is extraordinarily hard to answer, partly because I think there are three different questions:
1. Where it would be read by the largest number of Russians
2. Where it would be read by the sort of people who Senator McCain wants to have his words read by
3. Where it will have the biggest impact.

I strongly doubt if there is now any single publication that would be read by the majority of Russians (but then you will know better than I do whether the New York Times is read by the majority of U.S. citizens).   Others may disagree, but I don't think there is at present a single print or on-line media space that is shared by large segments of the population.     The answer to question 1 might be Komsomol'skaja pravda; the answer to question 3 might be Nezavisimaia gazeta or Kommersant.  Question 2 depends on which audience Senator McCain is aiming to reach: if it is the Putinistas, any of the already mentioned solutions would serve; if it is young(ish), well educated, oppositionally-minded segment of the population, then Matt Taibbi's suggestions of Novaja gazeta would seem the best.   The impact will be all the greater if the story is picked up by the main television channels, but that will be decided in Staraja Ploshchad'.

John Dunn.


From: SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures list [SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of George Kalbouss [kalbouss at MAC.COM]
Sent: 20 September 2013 17:00
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [SEELANGS] John McCain in Pravda.ru

A question has arisen from my colleagues in Political Science regarding John McCain's recent
letter published in Pravda.ru excoriating Vladimir Putin.    This is  not Pravda, as I gather, the
Communist Party publication, but an internet publication bearing almost
the same name.

The question, simply, is, "do Russians read Pravda.ru?" -- in other words, did McCain reach
any Russians buy publishing it there?    If you were to advise McCain, where
would you recommend his letter be published so that the majority of Russian citizens could
see it (assuming, of course, it would be published)?

Thanks,

George Kalbouss
The Ohio State University

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From nikiporetstakigawa at GMAIL.COM  Fri Sep 20 16:27:53 2013
From: nikiporetstakigawa at GMAIL.COM (Galina Nikiporets-Takigawa)
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 17:27:53 +0100
Subject: John McCain in Pravda.ru
In-Reply-To: <9B55785EA179DA42AAA6EA7F7DC9DB90E7A48BEDB0@CMS01.campus.gla.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <FRI.20.SEP.2013.172753.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Great comment, John, but I would suggest Izvestiia and Izvestiia.ru for
answer the first question. Anyway, Pravda.ru was not a correct choice
despite all symbolic meaning:
[image: Встроенное изображение 3]
[image: Встроенное изображение 2]

Dr Galina Nikiporets-Takigawa
Department of Slavonic Studies
University of Cambridge
Sidgwick Avenue, Cambridge CB3 9DA
gn254 at cam.ac.uk
www.memoryatwar.org


2013/9/20 John Dunn <John.Dunn at glasgow.ac.uk>

> I suppose the clip that Ben Rifkin sent round answers the first question.
>  The second question is extraordinarily hard to answer, partly because I
> think there are three different questions:
> 1. Where it would be read by the largest number of Russians
> 2. Where it would be read by the sort of people who Senator McCain wants
> to have his words read by
> 3. Where it will have the biggest impact.
>
> I strongly doubt if there is now any single publication that would be read
> by the majority of Russians (but then you will know better than I do
> whether the New York Times is read by the majority of U.S. citizens).
> Others may disagree, but I don't think there is at present a single print
> or on-line media space that is shared by large segments of the population.
>     The answer to question 1 might be Komsomol'skaja pravda; the answer to
> question 3 might be Nezavisimaia gazeta or Kommersant.  Question 2 depends
> on which audience Senator McCain is aiming to reach: if it is the
> Putinistas, any of the already mentioned solutions would serve; if it is
> young(ish), well educated, oppositionally-minded segment of the population,
> then Matt Taibbi's suggestions of Novaja gazeta would seem the best.   The
> impact will be all the greater if the story is picked up by the main
> television channels, but that will be decided in Staraja Ploshchad'.
>
> John Dunn.
>
>
> From: SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures list [
> SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of George Kalbouss [kalbouss at MAC.COM]
> Sent: 20 September 2013 17:00
> To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: [SEELANGS] John McCain in Pravda.ru
>
> A question has arisen from my colleagues in Political Science regarding
> John McCain's recent
> letter published in Pravda.ru excoriating Vladimir Putin.    This is  not
> Pravda, as I gather, the
> Communist Party publication, but an internet publication bearing almost
> the same name.
>
> The question, simply, is, "do Russians read Pravda.ru?" -- in other words,
> did McCain reach
> any Russians buy publishing it there?    If you were to advise McCain,
> where
> would you recommend his letter be published so that the majority of
> Russian citizens could
> see it (assuming, of course, it would be published)?
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kalbouss
> The Ohio State University
>
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From nataliae at PRINCETON.EDU  Fri Sep 20 16:45:03 2013
From: nataliae at PRINCETON.EDU (Natalia Ermolaev)
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 16:45:03 +0000
Subject: Conference: "Remediating the Avant-Garde: Magazines and Digital
 Archives " (Princeton, October 25-26)
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Remediating the Avant-Garde: Magazines and Digital Archives
Princeton University
October 25-26, 2013

This interdisciplinary conference will explore the conceptual and practical ground where traditional area studies, art history, periodical studies, digital humanities, computer science, and library and information science converge. We are interested in how these fields inform each other and challenge us to think in new ways, both as builders of digital resources and as scholars and teachers of avant-garde periodicals.

Details about the conference & registration can be found on the conference website: http://bluemountain.princeton.edu/conference

Conference speakers:
Keynote: "Radical Remediation"  Johanna Drucker (Breslauer Professor of Bibliographical Studies, Department of Information Studies, UCLA)

Panel 1: Representing the Avant-Garde Magazine
Chair: Milan Hughston (Chief of Library and Museum Archives, MoMA)
Discussant: Nicholas Sawicki (Art History, Lehigh University)
1. Kurt Beals (German, Washington University in St. Louis)
"The Universal and the Particular in the Avant-Garde Archive"
2. Jonathan Baillehache (French, University of Georgia)
"What User Interface for the Digitization of the Avant-Garde? The Dematerialization of El Lissitzky"
3. Sophie Seita (Comparative Literature, Univ. of London/Columbia University)
"'What is "291"?' The Little Magazine as Fetish, and the Archival Pilgrimage of the Critic"
4. Max Koss (Art History, University of Chicago)
"Losing Touch: The Digital PAN"

Panel 2: Navigating Avant-Garde Collections, Systems and Networks
Chair: Sandra Ludig Brooke (Librarian, Marquand Library of Art and Archaeology)
Discussant: Andrew Goldstone (English, Rutgers University)
1. Hanno Biber (Institute for Corpus Linguistics and Text Technology, Austrian Academy of Sciences)
"The AAC-FACKEL, a Digital Edition of the Satirical Journal 'Die Fackel'"
2. Gayle Rogers (English, University of Pittsburgh)
"The Spanish Morgue and the Emergence of International Modernism"
3. Thomas Crombez (Royal Academy of Fine Arts Antwerp/University of Antwerp)
"Digitizing Artist Periodicals: New Methodologies from the Digital Humanities for Analyzing Artist Networks"

Panel 3: Analyzing and Teaching the Digital Archive
Chair: Brad Evans (English, Rutgers University)
Discussant: Adam McKible (English, John Jay College)
1. Semyon Khokhlov (English, University of Notre Dame)
"Modernism from a Distance: Data-Mining the Little Review"
2. Jeffrey Drouin (English, University of Tulsa)
"Digital Pedagogy: Quantitative and Qualitative Approaches to Teaching Modernist Periodicals"
3. Suzanne Churchill (English, Davidson College)
"The Digital Database: A Sustainable Model of Student, Staff, and Faculty Collaboration"

*****
This conference is organized by the Blue Mountain Project<http://library.princeton.edu/projects/bluemountain/> at Princeton University, a freely available electronic repository of art, music, and literary periodicals that both chronicle and embody the emergence of cultural modernity in the West. We are currently digitizing 34 titles published in Europe and the United States between 1850-1923, in French, German, English, Italian, Spanish, Czech, Russian, Polish, Finnish, and Danish.

This conference is made possible through a grant from the National Endowment for the Humanities.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Natalia Ermolaev
Project Manager, Blue Mountain Project
nataliae at princeton.edu<mailto:nataliae at princeton.edu>
(609) 258-6243<tel:%28609%29%20258-6243>
Marquand Library A63, McCormick Hall
Princeton University
Princeton, NJ 08544
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From EChristensen at AMERICANCOUNCILS.ORG  Fri Sep 20 18:58:36 2013
From: EChristensen at AMERICANCOUNCILS.ORG (Eric Christensen)
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 18:58:36 +0000
Subject: 2014 Critical Language Scholarship (CLS) Program - Deadline:
 November 15, 2013
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The U.S. Department of State is pleased to announce the scholarship competition for the 2014 Critical Language Scholarship (CLS) Program in thirteen critical foreign languages. The CLS Program provides fully-funded group-based intensive language instruction and structured cultural enrichment experiences for seven to ten weeks for U.S. citizen undergraduate and graduate students.

Languages offered: Arabic, Azerbaijani, Bangla, Chinese, Hindi, Indonesian, Japanese, Korean, Persian, Punjabi, Russian, Turkish, and Urdu.

The application is available online at http://www.clscholarship.org. Applications will be due November 15, 2013 by 8:00 pm EST. Prior to preparing their application, interested students should review the full eligibility and application information on the CLS Program website<http://www.clscholarship.org/applicants>. Arabic, Chinese, Persian, Russian, and Japanese institutes have language prerequisites, which can also be found on the website.

Students from all academic disciplines, including business, engineering, law, medicine, science, social sciences, arts and humanities are encouraged to apply. While there is no service requirement attached to CLS Program awards, participants are expected to continue their language study beyond the scholarship period, and later apply their critical language skills in their professional careers.

The CLS Program will be planning outreach events at universities across the U.S. in fall 2013. Check out the CLS webpage or our Facebook page<http://www.facebook.com/CLScholarship> for updates!

For more information about the CLS Program, please visit the CLS website<http://www.clscholarship.org/CMS3/index.php/application>.


Eric Christensen
Program Officer, Critical Language Scholarship Program
American Councils for International Education
1828 L Street N.W., Suite 1200
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From mwarchol at AMERICANCOUNCILS.ORG  Fri Sep 20 19:00:14 2013
From: mwarchol at AMERICANCOUNCILS.ORG (Michael Warchol)
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 19:00:14 +0000
Subject: Fwd: Fellowships for overseas research: application deadline
 approaching
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ANNOUNCEMENT
The application deadline for American Councils’ 2014-2015 Title VIII Grants for Research and Advanced Language Training programs is quickly approaching. Applications must be postmarked on or before October 1. Only U.S. citizens are eligible for these awards.

The program supports U.S. policy-relevant research and advanced language training in the following regions/countries:
-        Central Asia
-        the South Caucasus
-        Southeast Europe
-        Moldova
-        Russia
-        Ukraine

THE FELLOWSHIPS
Fellowships are offered in two categories:

1) Title VIII Research Scholar Program: Provides full support for three- to nine-month research trips to Russia, Central Asia, the South Caucasus, Southeast Europe, Ukraine, and Moldova. Fellowships include roundtrip international travel, housing and living stipend, visa support, medical insurance, archive access, and logistical support in the field. Open to U.S. graduate students, post-doctoral scholars, and faculty.

2) Title VIII Combined Research and Language Training Program: Provides full support for research and up to ten academic hours per week of advanced language instruction for three-to-nine months in Russia, Central Asia, the South Caucasus, Southeast Europe, Ukraine, and Moldova. Fellowships include roundtrip international travel, housing and living stipend, tuition, visa support, medical insurance, archive access, and logistical support in the field. Open to U.S. graduate students, post-doctoral scholars, and faculty.

APPLYING
Applications are available for download at: http://researchfellowships.americancouncils.org/ or by contacting the American Councils Outbound Office.

The application deadline for all Title VIII fellowships is October 1, 2013. Applications must be postmarked by the application deadline date.

Please note that Title VIII Research Scholar Program and Title VIII Combined Research and Language Training Program must begin between June 1, 2014 and June 30, 2015; and must be completed by September 30, 2015.

For a full list of countries eligible for each fellowship, please see our website:
http://researchfellowships.americancouncils.org/

ABOUT THE PROGRAM
Funding for these programs is available through American Councils from the U.S. Department of State’s Program for Research and Training on Eastern Europe and the Independent States of the Former Soviet Union (Title VIII). All competitions for funding are open and merit based. All applications will receive consideration without regard to race, color, religion, sex, sexual orientation, national origin, marital status, political affiliation, or disability.



CONTACT
For more information, please contact:
Russian and Eurasian Outbound Programs
American Councils for International Education: ACTR/ACCELS
1828 L St. NW, Suite 1200
Washington, DC 20036
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From lolson at COLORADO.EDU  Fri Sep 20 20:14:15 2013
From: lolson at COLORADO.EDU (Laura Olson Osterman)
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 14:14:15 -0600
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From Michael_Long at BAYLOR.EDU  Fri Sep 20 20:33:55 2013
From: Michael_Long at BAYLOR.EDU (Long, Michael)
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 20:33:55 +0000
Subject: Baylor University--Lecurer in Russian
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Regular Lecturer in Russian

Beginning Fall 2014. Qualifications: M.A., native or near-native proficiency in Russian and English, and proven excellence in undergraduate teaching. Experience in a Russian-speaking country preferred. Responsibilities: To teach primarily elementary and intermediate Russian language courses. The successful candidate will be expected to provide leadership in extracurricular activities for students and to participate in other service activities as assigned. Applications will be reviewed beginning immediately and will be accepted until the position is filled. To ensure full consideration, complete applications must be submitted by October 15, 2013. Please submit a letter of application, current curriculum vitae, and transcripts. Include names, addresses, and phone numbers of three individuals from whom you have requested confidential letters of recommendation and have recommenders send letters to:

Dr. Ann McGlashan, Search Committee Chair
Department of Modern Foreign Languages
Baylor University
One Bear Place #97390
Waco, Texas 76798

Application materials may be submitted electronically to: Ann_Westbrook at baylor.edu<mailto:Ann_Westbrook at baylor.edu>

Baylor, the world's largest Baptist university, holds a Carnegie classification as a "high-research" institution. Baylor's mission is to educate men and women for worldwide leadership and service by integrating academic excellence and Christian commitment within a caring community. Baylor is actively recruiting new faculty with a strong commitment to the classroom and an equally strong commitment to discovering new knowledge as Baylor aspires to become a top tier research university while reaffirming and deepening its distinctive Christian mission as described in Pro Futuris (http://www.baylor.edu/profuturis/).

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From air3 at FRONTIER.COM  Sat Sep 21 00:07:53 2013
From: air3 at FRONTIER.COM (Irina Rodimtseva)
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 20:07:53 -0400
Subject: John McCain in Pravda.ru
Message-ID: <FRI.20.SEP.2013.200753.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Ben,

Thank you for sharing the link. Did you notice that when Hayes is talking about the Pravda of the Soviet times, they are showing Pionerskaya Pravda, albeit with a picture of Stalin and the announcement of his death? Hilarious!

Irina Rodimtseva

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  To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
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  Dear SEELANGers:


  Matt Taibbi, a journalist at Rolling Stone who lived in Moscow for a number of years, was interviewed last night on MSNBC on this very topic.  Here's the clip:


  http://video.msnbc.msn.com/all-in-/53057191#53057191


  In short, Pravda ain't what it used to be.  And it wasn't Pravda then either, so to speak.  (Of course.)


  I remember the old joke about the guy who goes up to the kiosk, Soviet era, to buy a newspaper:


  – Есть «Правда»?
  – «Правды» нет.
  – А «Советская Россия»?
  – Продана.
  – А что есть?
  – Только «Труд» за 2 копейки.


  Best wishes,


  Ben Rifkin
  The College of New Jersey




  On Sep 20, 2013, at 11:00 AM, George Kalbouss <kalbouss at MAC.COM> wrote:


    A question has arisen from my colleagues in Political Science regarding John McCain's recent
    letter published in Pravda.ru excoriating Vladimir Putin.    This is  not Pravda, as I gather, the 
    Communist Party publication, but an internet publication bearing almost
    the same name.

    The question, simply, is, "do Russians read Pravda.ru?" -- in other words, did McCain reach
    any Russians buy publishing it there?    If you were to advise McCain, where
    would you recommend his letter be published so that the majority of Russian citizens could
    see it (assuming, of course, it would be published)?

    Thanks,

    George Kalbouss
    The Ohio State University

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From david.matthew.johnson at VANDERBILT.EDU  Sat Sep 21 17:11:36 2013
From: david.matthew.johnson at VANDERBILT.EDU (Johnson, David Matthew)
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 17:11:36 +0000
Subject: Alternative Spring Break in Provincial Russia (Vladimir and
 Murom, The American Home)
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Dear Russian Language Professors, Teachers, and Students,


The application deadline for the American Home's (Serendipity-Russia) March 2014 ALTERNATIVE SPRING BREAK IN RUSSIA is October 15, 2013 (www.serendipity-russia.com/edex.html<http://www.serendipity-russia.com/edex.html>).


VLADIMIR: Help several community organizations, including the Youth Health and Education Center, Karl Liebnicht Orphanage, Russian Orthodox Church, Handicapped Children's Association �Light� and others, while interacting with Russian university students and experiencing the delight and wonder of provincial Russia.


MUROM: Help university students at the Murom Institute (an affiliate of Vladimir State University) to improve their English language skills; prepare audio and video materials for their English language program. During the Soviet period Murom was a closed city. Today it remains isolated from traditional tourist routes. Foreign language faculty and students are eager for contact with native English speakers.


Links to pictures, participant blogs, and television news reports are below. They may give you a sense of some of the things that students can do, see, and experience while participating in the Alternative Spring Break program.


If you have questions about any aspect of the American Home's work, please do not hesitate to contact me.


I hope that we will have the privilege to work with you and your students in Vladimir!


Sincerely,

David Johnson

Coordinator, Intensive Russian Program, American Home (Vladimir, Russia), www.serendipity-russia.com<http://www.serendipity-russia.com/>

Lecturer in Russian, Vanderbilt University, david.matthew.johnson at vanderbilt.edu<mailto:david.matthew.johnson at vanderbilt.edu>


---

Blog:

http://theamericanhome.blogspot.com/

http://theamericanhome.blogspot.com/2012/05/our-first-alternative-spring-break.html


Pictures:

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151290800166290.1073741825.184076861289&type=1

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150585601736290.373606.184076861289&type=1


Russian Television Reports:

http://www.6tv.ru/news/view/17102/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQu_46YZPnw&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4Yx0VcoQ7w&feature=related
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQu_46YZPnw&feature=player_embedded>

----

OTHER PROGRAMS AND DEADLINES:

INTENSIVE RUSSIAN PROGRAM � Applications Accepted All Year (www.serendipity-russia.com/studyrussian.html<http://www.serendipity-russia.com/studyrussian.html>)

Program fee: one-to-one instruction group instruction (2-5+ people, 15-35% discount)

Four weeks $3,897 $3,160 - 2,504

Six weeks $5,386 $4,463 - 3,509

Eight weeks $6,874 $5,765 - 4,514

Longer and shorter programs, including semester, summer, and fall, winter, and spring break programs are also possible.


The benefits of the American Home's long-standing Intensive Russian Program are provided to both individual and group participants:

+ experienced faculty specializing in teaching Russian to non-native speakers;

+ program and schedule customized to the needs of each student or group of students;

+ study from one week to one year;

+ individual home-stay with a Russian family;

+ �Russian friend-conversation partner� program;

+ on-site administrative support;

+ well-equipped classrooms in a comfortable, home-like, atmosphere;

+ excursions to UNESCO World Heritage Sites in Vladimir, Suzdal and Bogoliubovo;

+ opportunities to meet and socialize with some of the more than 400 Russians participating in the American Home English Program and others;

+ opportunities to participate in a variety of activities�for example, volunteering at an orphanage


AMERICAN ENGLISH PROGRAM TEACHING POSITIONS � Application Deadline March 1, 2013 (www.serendipity-russia.com/teach.html)

Program Benefits: small stipend, room and board with a Russian family, three hours per week of one-to-one Russian lessons, teacher training and lesson planning assistance, a pleasant, well-equipped, and organized teaching environment. Teacher obligations: Plan and teach four (possibly five) classes that meet twice a week, hold office hours, present a brief lecture on any aspect of American culture, airfare to Moscow, visa fee, obtain TESOL certification.


---

COMMENTS AND OBSERVATIONS ABOUT THE AMERICAN HOME

�What you've done is truly incredible. The excitement and positive energy that we witnessed was something that I'd rarely seen before. You deserve hearty congratulations!�(US Embassy Official, visiting the AH (2010)).


"I'm a big supporter of the American Home in Vladimir; You have been doing such an amazing job for so many years!" (Professor Maia Solovieva, Faculty-in-Residence, Lecturer in Russian, Oberlin College).


�I am extremely impressed by all that I have learned about the program: the educational opportunities..., the enthusiasm of the participants, the careful planning the American Home staff puts into each participant's experience. In the post-Soviet period there are many opportunities for Americans in Russia; I find the Serendipity program one of the most exciting� (Dr. Judith E. Kalb, Russian Program, University of South Carolina).


�Vladimir offers a real opportunity to immerse yourself in Russian language and culture. Such immersion can be very frightening at first, and that is why...the American Home is such a plus. Here I am given the opportunity to work with Russians in an atmosphere that is very familiar, fostering, and comfortable. I would certainly recommend it to anyone who wants to experience Russia for what it really is...� (Matt Plischke, Miami University (Ohio)).


�Not only have the staff at the American Home helped facilitate my travel, they also have offered kindness and hospitality. They are truly wonderful. I don't know what we would have done without them!� (Wendy Woith, PhD, RN).


�The AH has a superb staff and an excellent reputation in the community� (Momar Ndiaye, Director, Office of International Studies, Illinois State University).


�Galina and the [rest of the staff] made a profound impression with their efficiency and helpfulness. If only everyone we worked with on [our] trips was as reliable and efficient as [the AH] staff� (Diane Ignashev, Professor of Russian, Carlton College).


�You have a fantastic program here. This is cooperation at its finest, and the skills and respect that you are giving your students is invaluable� (Patrick Buzzard, NASA, US Embassy, Moscow).


�Vladimir and the American Home are ideally situated. Vladimir is a part of Russia's famed Golden Ring, and the American Home lies in the heart of downtown Vladimir. Here, you have all the advantages of Russian city life, but with all the charm of the nearby dachas. The American Home really is the meeting and mixing point for two cultures. The longer I stay, the more I discover how much Vladimir has to offer me� (Erika Boeckler, University of Wisconsin at Madison).


�Every night when I come home from work I�m greeted enthusiastically by my 15-year-old host brother, Pasha. After dinner we drink tea, and Pasha usually launches into one of his favorite conversation topics and doesn�t stop for quite some time. Living in Vladimir...has provided a rich assortment of unique experiences that I know I wouldn�t have encountered elsewhere� (Joanna Greenlee, Gordon College, Wenham, MA).


�Thanks to the people who have worked so hard and who remain committed to its success, the reputation that the American Home has earned with the people of Vladimir has to represent one of the most successful relationships any American organization has developed anywhere in Russia.� �Karen Hasara, former state legislator and former mayor of Springfield, Illinois


�The American Home is easily the single most influential American presence in [Russia] outside Moscow and St. Petersburg.� (Dr. Nils H. Wessel, Professor of Government, Emeritus, US Coast Guard Academy)

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From temp0001 at SHININGHAPPYPEOPLE.NET  Sat Sep 21 09:15:37 2013
From: temp0001 at SHININGHAPPYPEOPLE.NET (Don Livingston)
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 04:15:37 -0500
Subject: Vowel breaking in Russian
Message-ID: <SAT.21.SEP.2013.041537.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Dear SEELANGtsy,

I had the most interesting conversation with a co-worker about vowel breaking in Russian.  I have to admit, I've never considered the topic.  Essentially she said that when Russian native-speakers are emphasizing the pronunciation of words, they break stressed vowels into diphthongs.  Among her examples she noted that vy in contrastive contexts by native speakers is pronounced [vwy] and ty in contrastive contexts is pronounced [twy].  This is a colleague whose opinions I very much respect; she is not a person of casual opinions.  

That said, I must say that I myself have not observed such a thing when Russian native speakers stress the pronunciation of ty.  The [w] sound one seems to hear in vy and my and pyl' I have previously ascribed to a difference between Russian labials and English labials; that is, I posited that Russian labials have more lip rounding than English labials, and the seeming [w] sound I have taken to be simply an artifact of my American ear trying to interpret Russian sounds as English phonemes.

She also said that other stressed vowels in emphatic contexts show vowel breaking.  I can only think of one vowel I have ever heard that sometimes shows this vowel breaking effect.  Sometimes ne becomes ne-a.

So I'm wondering what your thoughts are on this topic.  Is vowel breaking something you have observed among Russian native speakers in emphatic contexts?  Do you know of any documentation on the topic?  (I don't remember anything of the sort in Avanesov, which is my go-to on pronunciation.) I look forward to any thoughts you might have.

Peace, joy and light to you, Don Livingston.

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From aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU  Mon Sep 23 00:44:44 2013
From: aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU (Alina Israeli)
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 20:44:44 -0400
Subject: Vowel breaking in Russian
In-Reply-To: <3816260636713937.WA.temp0001shininghappypeople.net@listserv.ua.edu>
Message-ID: <SUN.22.SEP.2013.204444.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Не‒а meaning 'no' is just two syllables.

Some Russian vowels are дифтонгоидные, as the late prof.  
L. Bondarko wrote. For example, one recognizes Poles who speak very  
good Russian (I had one such occasion) by the fact that their sound  
[o] does not have the element [u] before it. Russian номер is  
[nuomer].

Here's a quote on [ы] (except not only ы  
характеризуется дифтонгоидной  
артикуляцией, as mentioned the quote):

В фонетической системе русского языка  
[ы], в отличие от осталь-
ных русских гласных, характеризуется  
дифтонгоидной артикуляцией:
“...начинаясь с непередней  
артикуляции, он разворачивается во  
време-
ни как гласный, произносимый с передне- 
верхним положением языка,
т. е. как гласный переднего  
ряда” [Бондарко 1998, 78; cм. также: князев,
Пожарицкая 2003, 36]. как отмечает л.В.  
Бондарко, “дифтонгоидность
гласного [ы] была замечена еще А.Н.  
Томсоном, она, так же, как неодно-
родность гласного [о], является  
обязательной приметой русской речи,
а ее отсутствие воспринимается как  
акцентное произношение” [1998,
78].
http://www.leidykla.eu/fileadmin/Kalbotyra_3/2005-2009_54_2/278-286.pdf


On Sep 21, 2013, at 5:15 AM, Don Livingston wrote:

> Dear SEELANGtsy,
>
> I had the most interesting conversation with a co-worker about vowel  
> breaking in Russian.  I have to admit, I've never considered the  
> topic.  Essentially she said that when Russian native-speakers are  
> emphasizing the pronunciation of words, they break stressed vowels  
> into diphthongs.  Among her examples she noted that vy in  
> contrastive contexts by native speakers is pronounced [vwy] and ty  
> in contrastive contexts is pronounced [twy].  This is a colleague  
> whose opinions I very much respect; she is not a person of casual  
> opinions.
>
> That said, I must say that I myself have not observed such a thing  
> when Russian native speakers stress the pronunciation of ty.  The  
> [w] sound one seems to hear in vy and my and pyl' I have previously  
> ascribed to a difference between Russian labials and English  
> labials; that is, I posited that Russian labials have more lip  
> rounding than English labials, and the seeming [w] sound I have  
> taken to be simply an artifact of my American ear trying to  
> interpret Russian sounds as English phonemes.
>
> She also said that other stressed vowels in emphatic contexts show  
> vowel breaking.  I can only think of one vowel I have ever heard  
> that sometimes shows this vowel breaking effect.  Sometimes ne  
> becomes ne-a.
>
> So I'm wondering what your thoughts are on this topic.  Is vowel  
> breaking something you have observed among Russian native speakers  
> in emphatic contexts?  Do you know of any documentation on the  
> topic?  (I don't remember anything of the sort in Avanesov, which is  
> my go-to on pronunciation.) I look forward to any thoughts you might  
> have.
>
> Peace, joy and light to you, Don Livingston.
>
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(202) 885-2387 	fax (202) 885-1076
aisrael at american.edu






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From theblackhen at GMAIL.COM  Mon Sep 23 01:08:43 2013
From: theblackhen at GMAIL.COM (Anna Razumnaya)
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 21:08:43 -0400
Subject: Vowel breaking in Russian
In-Reply-To: <3816260636713937.WA.temp0001shininghappypeople.net@listserv.ua.edu>
Message-ID: <SUN.22.SEP.2013.210843.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Dear Don,

My immediate intuition is that your colleague is pulling your leg. But it is also true that "native speakers" will pronounce their vowels (and not only) differently depending not only on the place one was raised but also on the decade of his or her birth. It seems a more reliable piece of information that one can tell the age of an unfamiliar caller on the phone, granted that we're speaking to a Muscovite, by the way she or he pronounces the 'sh' sound. Someone who is now about sixty will make it sound closer to a 'f', while a person in her thirties is more likely to turn her 'sh' into something like 'sch', sometimes with a slight whistle. But something as extreme as what you describe belongs to jest, eccentricity, and the peculiar mannerisms of former secret police servicemen. Also, I know someone who likes to say 'doa' instead of 'da', to let you know that his tongue is firmly in his cheek.

Best wishes,

AR

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 21, 2013, at 5:15 AM, Don Livingston <temp0001 at SHININGHAPPYPEOPLE.NET> wrote:
> 
> Dear SEELANGtsy,
> 
> I had the most interesting conversation with a co-worker about vowel breaking in Russian.  I have to admit, I've never considered the topic.  Essentially she said that when Russian native-speakers are emphasizing the pronunciation of words, they break stressed vowels into diphthongs.  Among her examples she noted that vy in contrastive contexts by native speakers is pronounced [vwy] and ty in contrastive contexts is pronounced [twy].  This is a colleague whose opinions I very much respect; she is not a person of casual opinions.  
> 
> That said, I must say that I myself have not observed such a thing when Russian native speakers stress the pronunciation of ty.  The [w] sound one seems to hear in vy and my and pyl' I have previously ascribed to a difference between Russian labials and English labials; that is, I posited that Russian labials have more lip rounding than English labials, and the seeming [w] sound I have taken to be simply an artifact of my American ear trying to interpret Russian sounds as English phonemes.
> 
> She also said that other stressed vowels in emphatic contexts show vowel breaking.  I can only think of one vowel I have ever heard that sometimes shows this vowel breaking effect.  Sometimes ne becomes ne-a.
> 
> So I'm wondering what your thoughts are on this topic.  Is vowel breaking something you have observed among Russian native speakers in emphatic contexts?  Do you know of any documentation on the topic?  (I don't remember anything of the sort in Avanesov, which is my go-to on pronunciation.) I look forward to any thoughts you might have.
> 
> Peace, joy and light to you, Don Livingston.
> 
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From ameliede at EARTHLINK.NET  Mon Sep 23 01:51:51 2013
From: ameliede at EARTHLINK.NET (Jules Levin)
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 18:51:51 -0700
Subject: Vowel breaking in Russian
In-Reply-To: <BB0CE3CA-B0C5-4AC0-99A9-C7F54698A7FE@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SUN.22.SEP.2013.185151.0700.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

If you start from the phonological level, and assume 5 vowels (with 
whatever 'yes, buts' you want to throw in), and consonants that are 
either palatalized OR labialized/velarized, then all the 
diphthongal/diphthongoidal/diphthongish phenomena can be understood as 
transitions.  When under emphasis a vowel is prolongued for dramatic 
effect, those transitions become more audible, even to naive listeners.  
They also clearly show up on sound spectrographs.
The n'ea is probably the vowel /e/ heading toward a velarized /t/ that 
is then elided.
Jules Levin
Los Angeles

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From stuart.goldberg at MODLANGS.GATECH.EDU  Mon Sep 23 02:53:02 2013
From: stuart.goldberg at MODLANGS.GATECH.EDU (Goldberg, Stuart H)
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 22:53:02 -0400
Subject: Vowel breaking in Russian
In-Reply-To: <523F9EB7.9040300@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <SUN.22.SEP.2013.225302.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Perhaps in terms of etymology (what other word(s) in Russian, by the way, show an analogous effect?), but "не-а" is firmly lexicalized (like "да нет" and "да уж"), it differs stylistically and in emphasis from "нет". In this semantic field, "aга" and "ого" seem more interesting to me phonetically, as they retain an /h/ not otherwise present in the idiolect of speakers of "standard" Russian.

Stuart Goldberg

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jules Levin" <ameliede at EARTHLINK.NET>
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 9:51:51 PM
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Vowel breaking in Russian

If you start from the phonological level, and assume 5 vowels (with 
whatever 'yes, buts' you want to throw in), and consonants that are 
either palatalized OR labialized/velarized, then all the 
diphthongal/diphthongoidal/diphthongish phenomena can be understood as 
transitions.  When under emphasis a vowel is prolongued for dramatic 
effect, those transitions become more audible, even to naive listeners.  
They also clearly show up on sound spectrographs.
The n'ea is probably the vowel /e/ heading toward a velarized /t/ that 
is then elided.
Jules Levin
Los Angeles

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From John.Dunn at GLASGOW.AC.UK  Mon Sep 23 10:01:53 2013
From: John.Dunn at GLASGOW.AC.UK (John Dunn)
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 11:01:53 +0100
Subject: Vowel breaking in Russian
In-Reply-To: <1658082960.17813152.1379904782852.JavaMail.root@mail.gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.23.SEP.2013.110153.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

But then my question is this: are the vowels in не-а separated by a glottal stop?  And, if so, are there any other contexts in Russian where a glottal stop occurs?

John Dunn.
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Sent: 23 September 2013 04:53
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Vowel breaking in Russian

Perhaps in terms of etymology (what other word(s) in Russian, by the way, show an analogous effect?), but "не-а" is firmly lexicalized (like "да нет" and "да уж"), it differs stylistically and in emphasis from "нет". In this semantic field, "aга" and "ого" seem more interesting to me phonetically, as they retain an /h/ not otherwise present in the idiolect of speakers of "standard" Russian.

Stuart Goldberg

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From stuart.goldberg at MODLANGS.GATECH.EDU  Mon Sep 23 15:47:54 2013
From: stuart.goldberg at MODLANGS.GATECH.EDU (Goldberg, Stuart H)
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 11:47:54 -0400
Subject: Vowel breaking in Russian
In-Reply-To: <9B55785EA179DA42AAA6EA7F7DC9DB90E7A619E96D@CMS01.campus.gla.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <MON.23.SEP.2013.114754.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

An excellent question! To my ear they are indeed separated by a glottal stop.

----- Original Message -----
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To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 6:01:53 AM
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Vowel breaking in Russian

But then my question is this: are the vowels in не-а separated by a glottal stop?  And, if so, are there any other contexts in Russian where a glottal stop occurs?

John Dunn.
________________________________________
From: SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures list [SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Goldberg, Stuart H [stuart.goldberg at MODLANGS.GATECH.EDU]
Sent: 23 September 2013 04:53
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Vowel breaking in Russian

Perhaps in terms of etymology (what other word(s) in Russian, by the way, show an analogous effect?), but "не-а" is firmly lexicalized (like "да нет" and "да уж"), it differs stylistically and in emphasis from "нет". In this semantic field, "aга" and "ого" seem more interesting to me phonetically, as they retain an /h/ not otherwise present in the idiolect of speakers of "standard" Russian.

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From stuart.goldberg at MODLANGS.GATECH.EDU  Mon Sep 23 17:00:21 2013
From: stuart.goldberg at MODLANGS.GATECH.EDU (Goldberg, Stuart H)
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 13:00:21 -0400
Subject: Vowel breaking in Russian
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Actually, there seems to be some literature on the web on the гортанная смычка in Russian.  It apparently can occur electively at word breaks and between vowels word-internally, esp. in emotional or carefully pronounced speech.  Notable, the most common reference to explain to the non-linguist the nature of the sound appears to be... "не-а".

----- Original Message -----
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An excellent question! To my ear they are indeed separated by a glottal stop.

----- Original Message -----
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But then my question is this: are the vowels in не-а separated by a glottal stop?  And, if so, are there any other contexts in Russian where a glottal stop occurs?

John Dunn.
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Perhaps in terms of etymology (what other word(s) in Russian, by the way, show an analogous effect?), but "не-а" is firmly lexicalized (like "да нет" and "да уж"), it differs stylistically and in emphasis from "нет". In this semantic field, "aга" and "ого" seem more interesting to me phonetically, as they retain an /h/ not otherwise present in the idiolect of speakers of "standard" Russian.

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From ameliede at EARTHLINK.NET  Mon Sep 23 16:08:38 2013
From: ameliede at EARTHLINK.NET (Jules Levin)
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 09:08:38 -0700
Subject: Vowel breaking in Russian
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On 9/23/2013 3:01 AM, John Dunn wrote:
> But then my question is this: are the vowels in не-а separated by a glottal stop?  And, if so, are there any other contexts in Russian where a glottal stop occurs?
>
> John Dunn.
> ________________________________________
> From: SEELANGS: Slavic&  East European Languages and Literatures list [SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Goldberg, Stuart H [stuart.goldberg at MODLANGS.GATECH.EDU]
> Sent: 23 September 2013 04:53
> To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Vowel breaking in Russian
>
> Perhaps in terms of etymology (what other word(s) in Russian, by the way, show an analogous effect?), but "не-а" is firmly lexicalized (like "да нет" and "да уж"), it differs stylistically and in emphasis from "нет". In this semantic field, "aга" and "ого" seem more interesting to me phonetically, as they retain an /h/ not otherwise present in the idiolect of speakers of "standard" Russian.
>
> Stuart Goldberg
>    
My origin explanation is not inconsistent with the synchrony.  Cf. Eng. 
nope, which certainly now ends in a phoneme /p/, considered to 
originally be an artifact of emphatic closure of the lips.
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From MonnierN at MISSOURI.EDU  Mon Sep 23 19:16:28 2013
From: MonnierN at MISSOURI.EDU (Monnier, Nicole M.)
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 19:16:28 +0000
Subject: Recommendations for decent reference Russian history textbook for
 culture course?
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Dear SEELANGStsy,

We've just received the call for course text adoptions for spring 2014. I've been using Rowley's "Exploring Russia's Past: Narrative, Sources, Images" vol. 2 as the "background" history book + sourcebook for some primary document readings (about 1/5 of the course total) for a large-lecture course on 20th-century Russian culture (emphasis: humanities, not "straight" history). Coming back to the course after a (blissful) two-year hiatus, I just discovered (or re-discovered) the book now costs $70, which strikes me as ridiculous.

Does anyone have a recommendation for a decent survey of 20th-century Russian history? (I can find primary documents elsewhere.) "Decent" in this case means accessible and readable. (Imagine a course filled largely with business majors . . .)

Curiously,

Nicole




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From KALBJ at MAILBOX.SC.EDU  Mon Sep 23 19:21:48 2013
From: KALBJ at MAILBOX.SC.EDU (KALB, JUDITH)
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 19:21:48 +0000
Subject: question on "Third World" Soviet cultural activities
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Dear colleagues,
I am posting this for my colleage in Chinese, Krista Van Fleit Hang.  If you have thoughts, please send them to Krista at the address below.  Many thanks,
Judy

Dr. Judith E. Kalb
Associate Professor of Russian and Comparative Literature
Department of Languages, Literatures, and Cultures
University of South Carolina
Columbia, SC 29208
jkalb at sc.edu<mailto:jkalb at sc.edu>

I'm writing a paper about India/China connections in the 1950s, especially in terms of film production.  I'm reading some documents from an Indian theater group that had ties to the Communist Party of India, and basically it's the same language as Chinese documents from the same time period.  Of course I realize that a lot of this language is coming from Russia.  Do you know of a good study of Soviet cultural activities in the "third world" under Stalin, or even maybe a bit later or earlier?   It can be really old school, this person did that, he went there, etc., or more analytical is great too.

Thanks!

Krista
Krista Van Fleit Hang, Ph.D.
(杭) 冯丽达
Languages, Literatures, and Cultures
University of South Carolina
Welsh Humanities Office Bldg 811a
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From rasa15 at GMAIL.COM  Mon Sep 23 20:04:20 2013
From: rasa15 at GMAIL.COM (Rasa Balockaite)
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 23:04:20 +0300
Subject: question on "Third World" Soviet cultural activities
In-Reply-To: <70011BCAE1D8BD42B9F62D8607C10A7039D8C622@CAE145EMBP05.ds.sc.edu>
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Dear Colleagues,

I found this relevant to the course I teach, it includes topics as Soviet
imperialism etc,
When answering  Krista, include me cc Rasa15 at gmail.com,
thanks



Assoc. Prof. Dr. Rasa Balockaite
Vytautas Magnus University
Faculty of Political Science and Diplomacy
Department of Social and Political Theory
Gedimino 44, LT-44240, Kaunas, Lithuania
Email: Rasa15 at gmail.com


On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 10:21 PM, KALB, JUDITH <KALBJ at mailbox.sc.edu> wrote:

>  Dear colleagues,****
>
> I am posting this for my colleage in Chinese, Krista Van Fleit Hang.  If
> you have thoughts, please send them to Krista at the address below.  Many
> thanks,****
>
> Judy****
>
> ** **
>
> Dr. Judith E. Kalb****
>
> Associate Professor of Russian and Comparative Literature****
>
> Department of Languages, Literatures, and Cultures****
>
> University of South Carolina****
>
> Columbia, SC 29208****
>
> jkalb at sc.edu****
>
> ** **
>
> I'm writing a paper about India/China connections in the 1950s, especially
> in terms of film production.  I'm reading some documents from an Indian
> theater group that had ties to the Communist Party of India, and basically
> it's the same language as Chinese documents from the same time period.  Of
> course I realize that a lot of this language is coming from Russia.  Do you
> know of a good study of Soviet cultural activities in the "third world"
> under Stalin, or even maybe a bit later or earlier?   It can be really old
> school, this person did that, he went there, etc., or more analytical is
> great too.  ****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks!****
>
> ** **
>
> Krista****
>
> Krista Van Fleit Hang, Ph.D.****
>
> (杭) 冯丽达****
>
> Languages, Literatures, and Cultures****
>
> University of South Carolina****
>
> Welsh Humanities Office Bldg 811a****
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From jana.guignard at GMAIL.COM  Mon Sep 23 20:15:31 2013
From: jana.guignard at GMAIL.COM (Jana G)
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 22:15:31 +0200
Subject: SEELANGS Digest - 22 Sep 2013 (#2013-400)
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In my experience, I would link this double vowel break (as you say) to
stress and intonation. 'не' for example if emphasized would absolutely
sound slighty as nye-a. So, I would think in questions we would tend to
hear вы as vi-ye if emphasized.  I am studying Polish at the moment, and I
hear it as well. I think that this is not special to Slavic languages but
also is present in English. Imagine the word what in a statement 'wut'
versus 'whaaat? -the intonation would make it longer and thus could be
mistaken by a not native ear as two syllables. Of course, this is not the
perfect English example, but I think it is comparable.

My two zł.

JG -M.A in Slavic Lit & Lang


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> From:    "Goldberg, Stuart H" <stuart.goldberg at MODLANGS.GATECH.EDU>
> Subject: Re: Vowel breaking in Russian
>
> Perhaps in terms of etymology (what other word(s) in Russian, by the way,
> show an analogous effect?), but "не-а" is firmly lexicalized (like "да нет"
> and "да уж"), it differs stylistically and in emphasis from "нет". In this
> semantic field, "aга" and "ого" seem more interesting to me phonetically,
> as they retain an /h/ not otherwise present in the idiolect of speakers of
> "standard" Russian.
>
> Stuart Goldberg
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jules Levin" <ameliede at EARTHLINK.NET>
> To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 9:51:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Vowel breaking in Russian
>
> If you start from the phonological level, and assume 5 vowels (with
> whatever 'yes, buts' you want to throw in), and consonants that are
> either palatalized OR labialized/velarized, then all the
> diphthongal/diphthongoidal/diphthongish phenomena can be understood as
> transitions.  When under emphasis a vowel is prolongued for dramatic
> effect, those transitions become more audible, even to naive listeners.
> They also clearly show up on sound spectrographs.
> The n'ea is probably the vowel /e/ heading toward a velarized /t/ that
> is then elided.
> Jules Levin
> Los Angeles
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From bkhayden1990 at GMAIL.COM  Tue Sep 24 00:08:21 2013
From: bkhayden1990 at GMAIL.COM (Brian Hayden)
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 20:08:21 -0400
Subject: Vowel breaking in Russian
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Why is it не-а, anyway, instead of не-э, for example? Is there a reason we
see /a/ there?

Brian Hayden


On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Jules Levin <ameliede at earthlink.net>wrote:

> On 9/23/2013 3:01 AM, John Dunn wrote:
>
>> But then my question is this: are the vowels in не-а separated by a
>> glottal stop?  And, if so, are there any other contexts in Russian where a
>> glottal stop occurs?
>>
>> John Dunn.
>> ______________________________**__________
>> From: SEELANGS: Slavic&  East European Languages and Literatures list [
>> SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Goldberg, Stuart H [
>> stuart.goldberg at MODLANGS.**GATECH.EDU<stuart.goldberg at MODLANGS.GATECH.EDU>
>> ]
>>
>> Sent: 23 September 2013 04:53
>> To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Vowel breaking in Russian
>>
>> Perhaps in terms of etymology (what other word(s) in Russian, by the way,
>> show an analogous effect?), but "не-а" is firmly lexicalized (like "да нет"
>> and "да уж"), it differs stylistically and in emphasis from "нет". In this
>> semantic field, "aга" and "ого" seem more interesting to me phonetically,
>> as they retain an /h/ not otherwise present in the idiolect of speakers of
>> "standard" Russian.
>>
>> Stuart Goldberg
>>
>>
> My origin explanation is not inconsistent with the synchrony.  Cf. Eng.
> nope, which certainly now ends in a phoneme /p/, considered to originally
> be an artifact of emphatic closure of the lips.
> Jules Levin
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From devilsbit06 at YAHOO.COM  Tue Sep 24 02:19:02 2013
From: devilsbit06 at YAHOO.COM (J P Maher)
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 19:19:02 -0700
Subject: Vowel breaking in Russian
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a.k.a. epithesis... Not only closure, but closure + re-opening. Like  a STOP sign. Otherwise the first STOP sign would have spawned an eternal STOP.
Then, by analogy  yep < yeah...
 

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To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Vowel breaking in Russian
  

On 9/23/2013 3:01 AM, John Dunn wrote:
> But then my question is this: are the vowels in не-а separated by a glottal stop?  And, if so, are there any other contexts in Russian where a glottal stop occurs?
> 
> John Dunn.
> ________________________________________
> From: SEELANGS: Slavic&  East European Languages and Literatures list [SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Goldberg, Stuart H [stuart.goldberg at MODLANGS.GATECH.EDU]
> Sent: 23 September 2013 04:53
> To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Vowel breaking in Russian
> 
> Perhaps in terms of etymology (what other word(s) in Russian, by the way, show an analogous effect?), but "не-а" is firmly lexicalized (like "да нет" and "да уж"), it differs stylistically and in emphasis from "нет". In this semantic field, "aга" and "ого" seem more interesting to me phonetically, as they retain an /h/ not otherwise present in the idiolect of speakers of "standard" Russian.
> 
> Stuart Goldberg
>    
My origin explanation is not inconsistent with the synchrony.  Cf. Eng. nope, which certainly now ends in a phoneme /p/, considered to originally be an artifact of emphatic closure of the lips.
Jules Levin





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From a.jameson2 at DSL.PIPEX.COM  Tue Sep 24 08:29:38 2013
From: a.jameson2 at DSL.PIPEX.COM (Andrew Jameson)
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 09:29:38 +0100
Subject: Vowel breaking in Russian
In-Reply-To: <CACRt+YP_1o9pUhRmGGxxQsLWcjuv12B-Xt8=buY0aJdiNfrJ4Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Is it entirely a coincidence that Mandarin does something similar for
purposes of emphasis?
E.g. Wo de tian-a! (My heavens! as an exclamation).
 
Andrew Jameson
Consultant on Russian Language and Culture
Translator, Russian & German to English
Listowner, russian-teaching list
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Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 1:08 AM
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Why is it не-а, anyway, instead of не-э, for example? Is there a reason we
see /a/ there? 
 
Brian Hayden
 
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Jules Levin <ameliede at earthlink.net>
wrote:
On 9/23/2013 3:01 AM, John Dunn wrote:
But then my question is this: are the vowels in не-а separated by a glottal
stop?  And, if so, are there any other contexts in Russian where a glottal
stop occurs?

John Dunn.
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From a.jameson2 at DSL.PIPEX.COM  Tue Sep 24 09:05:27 2013
From: a.jameson2 at DSL.PIPEX.COM (Andrew Jameson)
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:05:27 +0100
Subject: FW: XIII
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-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Jameson [mailto:a.jameson2 at dsl.pipex.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:01 AM
To: russian-studies; 'BASEES-MEMBERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK'
Subject: FW: XIII Конгресс МАПРЯЛ / XIII Congreso MAPRYAL‏, Granada, España

-----Original Message-----
From: mapryalgranada2015 [mailto:mapryalgranada2015 at ugr.es] 
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 8:29 AM
To: mapryalgranada2015 at ugr.es
Subject: XIII Конгресс МАПРЯЛ / XIII Congreso MAPRYAL‏

Уважаемые коллеги,

сообщаем вам, что на сайте МАПРЯЛ http://ru.mapryal.org размещено 
Первое информационное письмо XIII Конгресса МАПРЯЛ «Русский язык и 
литература   в  пространстве мировой культуры», который состоится в 
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MAPRYAL pueden encontrar la Primera carta informativa del XIII Congreso 
de  MAPRYAL  "La lengua y literatura rusas en el espacio de la cultura 
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Contactos:

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Correo electrónico: info at mapryal.org
URL: http://www.mapryal.org/

Dirección del Comité Organizador Nacional del XIII Congreso de  
MAPRYAL:
XIII Congreso MAPRYAL
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Facultad de Traducción e Interpretación
C/ Buensuceso n º 11, Granada 18071 , España
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From John.Dunn at GLASGOW.AC.UK  Tue Sep 24 13:55:39 2013
From: John.Dunn at GLASGOW.AC.UK (John Dunn)
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 14:55:39 +0100
Subject: Vowel breaking in Russian
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Interesting.  I shall listen out for it.  To a native speaker of (British) English it is a little odd to come across the glottal stop as a feature of carefully pronounced speech.

John Dunn. 
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To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Vowel breaking in Russian

Actually, there seems to be some literature on the web on the гортанная смычка in Russian.  It apparently can occur electively at word breaks and between vowels word-internally, esp. in emotional or carefully pronounced speech.  Notable, the most common reference to explain to the non-linguist the nature of the sound appears to be... "не-а".

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From svetlana.soglasnova at UTORONTO.CA  Tue Sep 24 14:41:51 2013
From: svetlana.soglasnova at UTORONTO.CA (Lana Soglasnova)
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 14:41:51 +0000
Subject: Vowel breaking in Russian
Message-ID: <TUE.24.SEP.2013.144151.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Yes, some relatively recent studies:

Shcherbakova's 2006 Kandidat dissertation "Гортанный смычный согласный в русском языке":
http://www.dissercat.com/content/gortannyi-smychnyi-soglasnyi-v-russkom-yazyke
also discusses prosodic factors (intonation) in glottal stop occurrence

her article in Voprosy Iazykoznaniia, has an English Abstract: 
Shcherbakova, L A. Voprosy yazykoznaniya54.2 (Mar 2006): 111-118.
Phonetics and Phonology of Juncture in Morphemes and Words [On the Delimitative Function of the Laryngeal Juncture in Russian]
Abstract: E. D. Polivanov's (1928) description of his own Russian idiolect from the Baltic region is cited (1) to attest the existence of a glottal stop that clearly marks the word boundary in phrases of the type k ottsu 'to father' & conditions devoicing of the preposition v in phrases of the type v ad 'to hell' & (2) to argue that Polivanov's data is significant for Russian as a whole, although the use of glottal stops has been assigned to an artificial style of pronunciation by other Russian linguists. The glottal stop or laryngeal juncture is analyzed as a physical substrate of boundary signals between prepositions ending in a consonant & following words beginning with a vowel; it emerges in a full style of pronunciation & is weakened in conversational style, which retains as a position of strong delimitation only the nonpalatalized realization of velar consonants before front vowels in phrases of the type k etomu 'toward this'.

Dobrodomov and Izmest'eva's 2009 article on the history of glottal stop devt in Russian also has an essential bibliography, in Russian, both on its synchrony and diachrony:
http://www.ssc.smr.ru/media/journals/izvestia/2009/2009_4_1001_1006.pdf

best,
Lana
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From paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM  Tue Sep 24 15:44:37 2013
From: paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM (Paul B. Gallagher)
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 11:44:37 -0400
Subject: Vowel breaking in Russian
In-Reply-To: <9B55785EA179DA42AAA6EA7F7DC9DB90E7A619E973@CMS01.campus.gla.ac.uk>
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John Dunn wrote:

> Interesting. I shall listen out for it. To a native speaker of
> (British) English it is a little odd to come across the glottal stop
> as a feature of carefully pronounced speech.

Wo' 'on 'uhth 'ah you taw'ing abou'? I' may no' be RP, bu' i's very common!

;-)

-- 
War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
--
Paul B. Gallagher
pbg translations, inc.
"Russian Translations That Read Like Originals"
http://pbg-translations.com

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From pstock at BRANDEIS.EDU  Wed Sep 25 05:07:29 2013
From: pstock at BRANDEIS.EDU (David Powelstock)
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 01:07:29 -0400
Subject: Help identifying the Russian subject of an early 18th-c. portrait
Message-ID: <WED.25.SEP.2013.010729.0400.>

Dear Colleagues,

Per the request of an acquaintance, I am attempting to identify the female
subject, a Russian woman, of a portrait painted probably in the first third
of the 18th century. (The artist died in 1732.)  SEELANGS does not accept
attachments of any kind, so I am reduced to asking that you write me
off-list if you think you might be able to help, upon which I will sent you
the image. Any clues would be helpful!

Many thanks in advance,
David P.

 * * * * * * * * * *
David Powelstock
Assoc. Prof. of Russian and Comparative Literature
Director, Master of Arts in Comparative Humanities
Brandeis University
Waltham, MA 02453

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From dwil247 at AUCKLANDUNI.AC.NZ  Wed Sep 25 11:57:44 2013
From: dwil247 at AUCKLANDUNI.AC.NZ (David Williams)
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:57:44 +0200
Subject: Writing Postcommunism: Towards a Literature of the East European
 Ruins
Message-ID: <WED.25.SEP.2013.135744.0200.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Dear colleagues,

My new book, *Writing Postcommunism: Towards a Literature of the East
European Ruins *(Palgrave, 2013), may be of interest to some of you.

*Abstract*
Moving through the elegiac ruins of the Berlin Wall and the Yugoslav
disintegration, *Writing Postcommunism* explores literary evocations of the
pervasive disappointment and mourning that have marked the postcommunist
twilight. With particular reference to the writings of Croatian émigré
Dubravka Ugrešić, as well as to those, amongst others, of Milan Kundera,
Clemens Meyer, Ingo Schulze, Jáchym Topol, and Christa Wolf, it is argued
that a significant body of postcommunist literature is underpinned and
scarred by the semantic field of ruins: melancholia and nostalgia, presence
and absence, pride and shame, and not least, remembering and forgetting.
Taken together, the writings considered suggest a post-1989 'literature of
the ruins', an amorphous, anti-formative framework that also dramatically
illuminates the post-1989 ruins of east European literature itself - what
remains when, as György Konrád put it, 'something is over'.

Further information, including a free download of the Introduction, can be
found at the Palgrave Macmillan website:
http://www.palgrave.com/products/title.aspx?pid=669315

*Author Note*
David Williams is the translator of Dubravka Ugrešić's *Karaoke
Culture*(2011) and
*Europe in Sepia* (forthcoming 2014), and also of Miljenko Jergović's *Mama
Leone* (2012). He completed his doctorate in Comparative Literature at the
University of Auckland, and has taught at the Universities of East
Sarajevo, Belgrade, Novi Sad, and Auckland. He has been a visiting scholar
at the Leipzig Centre for the History and Culture of East-Central Europe
(GWZO), and is presently a DAAD postdoctoral fellow in the Department of
Slavic Literatures at the University of Konstanz.

Best wishes,
David

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From aatseel at USC.EDU  Wed Sep 25 13:28:03 2013
From: aatseel at USC.EDU (Nancy Condee)
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 08:28:03 -0500
Subject: AATSEEL Awards - Nominations
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From robinson.spencer at GMAIL.COM  Wed Sep 25 16:06:08 2013
From: robinson.spencer at GMAIL.COM (Spencer Robinson)
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 12:06:08 -0400
Subject: Russian Dictionary
Message-ID: <WED.25.SEP.2013.120608.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Dear all,

I was asked this morning if there is a Russian dictionary with IPA
descriptions of pronunciation. I am not familiar with any. Do any of you
know if there are any, and if so, the bibliographic information for them?
It can be Russian-English or any other language.

Thank you so much,
Spencer Robinson

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From jpf3 at UCHICAGO.EDU  Wed Sep 25 16:31:16 2013
From: jpf3 at UCHICAGO.EDU (June P. Farris)
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:31:16 +0000
Subject: FW: [SEELANGS] Russian Dictionary
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From: June P. Farris
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 11:24 AM
To: SEELANGS at listserv.ua.edu
Cc: 'robinson.spencer at GMAIL.COM'
Subject: RE: [SEELANGS] Russian Dictionary

I assume that the most recent editions of the Muller dictionary has this also, although it does not explicitly say so in the title as do the early editions. Best, June Farris

Title:

Anglo-russkii slovar’ :
40.000 slov s ukazaniem proiznosheniia v internatsional’noi foneticheskoi transkriptsii /

Author(s):

Miuller, V. K. 1880-<http://newfirstsearch.oclc.org.proxy.uchicago.edu/WebZ/FSQUERY?searchtype=hotauthors:format=BI:numrecs=10:dbname=WorldCat::termh1=Miuller%5C%2C+V.+K.:indexh1=pn%3D:termh2=1880-:indexh2=pn%3D:operatorh1=AND:sessionid=fsapp3-34862-hm0r64l9-lnb5fr:entitypagenum=22:0:next=html/records.html:bad=error/badsearch.html>  (Vladimir Karlovich),
Boianus, S. K.; 1871-1952.<http://newfirstsearch.oclc.org.proxy.uchicago.edu/WebZ/FSQUERY?searchtype=hotauthors:format=BI:numrecs=10:dbname=WorldCat::termh1=Boianus%5C%2C+S.+K.:indexh1=pn%3D:termh2=1871-1952.:indexh2=pn%3D:operatorh1=AND:sessionid=fsapp3-34862-hm0r64l9-lnb5fr:entitypagenum=22:0:next=html/records.html:bad=error/badsearch.html> ; (Semen Karlovich),

Publication:

Moskva : Sovetskaia entsiklopediia,
Edition: Izd. 2-e, ispr. i dop.

Year:

1931

Description:

1390 columns ; 18 cm.

Language:

English

Series:

Inostrannye slovari ;; vyp. 2; Variation: Inostrannye slovari ;; vyp. 2.


Title:

Foneticheskii razbor :
pravil’noe proiznoshenie : bolee 10,000 slov /

Author(s):

Snarskaia, S. M.<http://newfirstsearch.oclc.org.proxy.uchicago.edu/WebZ/FSQUERY?searchtype=hotauthors:format=BI:numrecs=10:dbname=WorldCat::termh1=Snarskaia%5C%2C+S.+M.:indexh1=pn%3D:sessionid=fsapp3-34862-hm0r64l9-lnb5fr:entitypagenum=25:0:next=html/records.html:bad=error/badsearch.html>

Publication:

Sankt-Peterburg : Norint,

Year:

2006, ©2002

Description:

283 p. ; 20 cm.

Accession No:

OCLC: 247422825

Database:

WorldCat




Title:

Slovar’ trudnostei proiznosheniia i udareniia v sovremennom russkom iazyke :
12,000 slov /

Author(s):

Gorbachevich, K. S.<http://newfirstsearch.oclc.org.proxy.uchicago.edu/WebZ/FSQUERY?searchtype=hotauthors:format=BI:numrecs=10:dbname=WorldCat::termh1=Gorbachevich%5C%2C+K.+S.:indexh1=pn%3D:sessionid=fsapp3-34862-hm0r64l9-lnb5fr:entitypagenum=27:0:next=html/records.html:bad=error/badsearch.html>  (Kirill Sergeevich)

Publication:

Sankt-Peterburg : Norint,

Year:

2000

Description:

303 p. ; 21 cm.

Descriptor:

Russian language -- Pronunciation -- Dictionaries.<http://newfirstsearch.oclc.org.proxy.uchicago.edu/WebZ/FSQUERY?searchtype=hotsubjects:format=BI:numrecs=10:dbname=WorldCat::termh1=%22Russian+language%22:indexh1=su%3D:termh2=%22Pronunciation%22:indexh2=su%3D:operatorh1=AND:termh3=%22Dictionaries.%22:indexh3=su%3D:operatorh2=AND:sessionid=fsapp3-34862-hm0r64l9-lnb5fr:entitypagenum=27:0:next=html/records.html:bad=error/badsearch.html>
Russian language -- Accents and accentuation -- Dictionaries.<http://newfirstsearch.oclc.org.proxy.uchicago.edu/WebZ/FSQUERY?searchtype=hotsubjects:format=BI:numrecs=10:dbname=WorldCat::termh1=%22Russian+language%22:indexh1=su%3D:termh2=%22Accents+and+accentuation%22:indexh2=su%3D:operatorh1=AND:termh3=%22Dictionaries.%22:indexh3=su%3D:operatorh2=AND:sessionid=fsapp3-34862-hm0r64l9-lnb5fr:entitypagenum=27:0:next=html/records.html:bad=error/badsearch.html>

Accession No:

OCLC: 44927285

Database:

WorldCat






________________________________________________________________________
June Pachuta Farris
Bibliographer for Slavic, E. European & Eurasian Studies
Bibliographer for General Linguistics
University of Chicago Library
Room 263 Regenstein Library
University of Chicago
1100 E. 57th Street
Chicago, IL  60637
1-773-702-8456 (phone)
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Jpf3 at uchicago.edu<mailto:Jpf3 at uchicago.edu>

From: SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures list [mailto:SEELANGS at listserv.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Spencer Robinson
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 11:06 AM
To: SEELANGS at listserv.ua.edu<mailto:SEELANGS at listserv.ua.edu>
Subject: [SEELANGS] Russian Dictionary

Dear all,
I was asked this morning if there is a Russian dictionary with IPA descriptions of pronunciation. I am not familiar with any. Do any of you know if there are any, and if so, the bibliographic information for them? It can be Russian-English or any other language.
Thank you so much,
Spencer Robinson

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From a.jameson2 at DSL.PIPEX.COM  Wed Sep 25 19:05:58 2013
From: a.jameson2 at DSL.PIPEX.COM (Andrew Jameson)
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 20:05:58 +0100
Subject: Russian Dictionary
In-Reply-To: <CALvFdoJHeXowJy2-vNXT6QYBOJeAzdvZctiesHxvL6hQMDWuNA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <WED.25.SEP.2013.200558.0100.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Are you looking for dictionaries with the Russian described in IPA?
All the Oxford bilingual series now have the English described in IPA.
Andrew Jameson


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Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:06 PM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [SEELANGS] Russian Dictionary
 
Dear all,
I was asked this morning if there is a Russian dictionary with IPA
descriptions of pronunciation. I am not familiar with any. Do any of you
know if there are any, and if so, the bibliographic information for them? It
can be Russian-English or any other language.
Thank you so much,
Spencer Robinson


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From robinson.spencer at GMAIL.COM  Wed Sep 25 22:58:15 2013
From: robinson.spencer at GMAIL.COM (Spencer Robinson)
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 18:58:15 -0400
Subject: Russian Dictionary
In-Reply-To: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAH9WXIANEXBGhFG4+IRql8fCgAAAEAAAAAhNaieR7GBCr/nCfJFjSzoBAAAAAA==@dsl.pipex.com>
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Dear Andrew,

Yes, I am looking for dictionaries with the Russian described in IPA.

Thank you,
Spencer


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On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Andrew Jameson <a.jameson2 at dsl.pipex.com>wrote:

>  Are you looking for dictionaries with the Russian described in IPA?****
>
> All the Oxford bilingual series now have the English described in IPA.****
>
> Andrew Jameson
> **
> ******
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures list
> [mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Spencer Robinson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:06 PM
> *To:* SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> *Subject:* [SEELANGS] Russian Dictionary****
>
> ** **
>
> Dear all,****
>
> I was asked this morning if there is a Russian dictionary with IPA
> descriptions of pronunciation. I am not familiar with any. Do any of you
> know if there are any, and if so, the bibliographic information for them?
> It can be Russian-English or any other language.****
>
> Thank you so much,
> Spencer Robinson
> ****
>
>
> --
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From tsutsm01 at KANAGAWA-U.AC.JP  Thu Sep 26 06:55:38 2013
From: tsutsm01 at KANAGAWA-U.AC.JP (TSUTSUMI Masanori (KU))
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 15:55:38 +0900
Subject: Russian Dictionary
In-Reply-To: <CALvFdoJHeXowJy2-vNXT6QYBOJeAzdvZctiesHxvL6hQMDWuNA@mail.gmail.com>
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Dear Seelangers,

S. Kimura et al.(eds). Hakuyusha Rosiago Jiten, Kaiteisinpan. Tokyo: Hakuyus
ha, 1995.

This is a Russan-Japanese Dictionary with IPA descriptions of pronunciation..

It has a Russian title.
Новый Русско-японский словарь, изд. 2-е, пе
реработанное.

The first edition published in 1975 had IPA descriptions of pronunciation, t
oo.


  TSUTSUMI, Masanori
   Kanagawa University, Yokohama, Japan

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        堤    正典        TSUTSUMI Masanori
          神奈川大学        Kanagawa University
         国際文化交流学科  Dep. of Cross-Cultural Studies
            tsutsumi at kanagawa-u.ac.jp

> Dear all,
>
> I was asked this morning if there is a Russian dictionary with IPA
> descriptions of pronunciation. I am not familiar with any. Do any of you
> know if there are any, and if so, the bibliographic information for them?
> It can be Russian-English or any other language.
>
> Thank you so much,
> Spencer Robinson
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From josephschlegel at YAHOO.COM  Wed Sep 25 17:17:19 2013
From: josephschlegel at YAHOO.COM (Joseph Schlegel)
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 10:17:19 -0700
Subject: Russian Dictionary
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ru.wiktionary.org is far from complete, but a good number of entries do contain IPA descriptions of pronunciation. It becomes a better resource with each passing year.

Joseph Schlegel
University of Toronto




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Dear all,

I was asked this morning if there is a Russian dictionary with IPA descriptions of pronunciation. I am not familiar with any. Do any of you know if there are any, and if so, the bibliographic information for them? It can be Russian-English or any other language.

Thank you so much,
Spencer Robinson


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From amarilis at BUGBYTES.COM  Thu Sep 26 14:46:24 2013
From: amarilis at BUGBYTES.COM (Brunilda Lugo de Fabritz)
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:46:24 -0400
Subject: Kolyma tales
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So, I am about to teach the Kolyma tales for the first time. I would love suggestions regarding the five or six tales colleagues in the list consider essential.
Amarilis Lugo de Fabritz
Howard University 
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From josefina.lundblad at GMAIL.COM  Thu Sep 26 15:43:46 2013
From: josefina.lundblad at GMAIL.COM (Josefina Lundblad)
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 08:43:46 -0700
Subject: Kolyma tales
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If I can suggest three that are absolutely essential then "По снегу" (as a
prelude and an introduction into the world of the camps as well as into the
world of the writer), "На представку" (explore the Pushkin connection if
your students are well-versed in Russian 19th cent. lit.), and "Сентенция"
(because it is the greatest - to put it mildly). I hope this was helpful!

Josefina


2013/9/26 Brunilda Lugo de Fabritz <amarilis at bugbytes.com>

> So, I am about to teach the Kolyma tales for the first time. I would love
> suggestions regarding the five or six tales colleagues in the list consider
> essential.
> Amarilis Lugo de Fabritz
> Howard University
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From John.Pendergast at USMA.EDU  Thu Sep 26 16:21:22 2013
From: John.Pendergast at USMA.EDU (Pendergast, John J CIV USA USMA)
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 12:21:22 -0400
Subject: Kolyma tales
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Not sure if you are planning to ask the students to draw any modern parallels, but it seems to me that the fate of the Pussy Riot singers offers a great deal of currency to the Kolyma Tales.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/23/pussy-riot-hunger-strike-prison

-John Pendergast
West Point

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Amarilis Lugo de Fabritz
Howard University 

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From s.young at UCL.AC.UK  Thu Sep 26 16:45:10 2013
From: s.young at UCL.AC.UK (Young, Sarah)
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 16:45:10 +0000
Subject: Kolyma Tales
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It depends in part whether you're teaching Shalamov in Russian or English. If the latter, you are somewhat restricted, but I would probably go for: 'Through the Snow' (even if you're just focusing on a few tales, this is essential to show that these are not simply isolated stories); 'On Tick'; 'Berries'; 'Lend-Lease'; 'Sententious'; and 'My First Tooth'. Do be aware, however, that the Penguin (Glad) translations miss the occasional sentence out. If you're teaching in Russian, there is obviously potential for more variety, in which case I would include 'Voskreshenie listvennitsy' and (although the story as a whole is rather rambling) the opening page or two of 'Perchatka'.
best wishes,
Sarah Young

Dr Sarah J. Young
SSEES, UCL
Gower Street
London WC1E 6BT

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From kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM  Thu Sep 26 21:07:06 2013
From: kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Robert Chandler)
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 22:07:06 +0100
Subject: Kolyma tales
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I second Josefina's suggestions and would add "Yagody" - and perhaps "Bol'", though I find the latter almost unbearably painful.  I'll add that translations of 'Po snegu', 'Yagody', 'Utka' and 'Zaklinatel' zmei' are included in my RUSSIAN SHORT STORIES FROM PUSHKIN TO BUIDA (Penguin Classics, 2005)

R.

On 26 Sep 2013, at 16:43, Josefina Lundblad <josefina.lundblad at GMAIL.COM> wrote:

> If I can suggest three that are absolutely essential then "По снегу" (as a prelude and an introduction into the world of the camps as well as into the world of the writer), "На представку" (explore the Pushkin connection if your students are well-versed in Russian 19th cent. lit.), and "Сентенция" (because it is the greatest - to put it mildly). I hope this was helpful!
> 
> Josefina
> 
> 
> 2013/9/26 Brunilda Lugo de Fabritz <amarilis at bugbytes.com>
> So, I am about to teach the Kolyma tales for the first time. I would love suggestions regarding the five or six tales colleagues in the list consider essential.
> Amarilis Lugo de Fabritz
> Howard University 
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From jamercha at GMAIL.COM  Thu Sep 26 16:46:53 2013
From: jamercha at GMAIL.COM (John Merchant)
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 11:46:53 -0500
Subject: Kolyma tales
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I have not taught these tales, but I have taught Gustaw
Herling-Grudzinski's A World Apart and I found the "Virtual Gulag" website
to be quite useful: http://www.thegulag.org/exhibits. At the very least, it
has a nice timeline and an instructive map of where these places are
located. Plus, it has short interviews with scholars on their origin,
operation, etc.


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amarilis at bugbytes.com> wrote:

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> suggestions regarding the five or six tales colleagues in the list consider
> essential.
> Amarilis Lugo de Fabritz
> Howard University
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From klinela at COMCAST.NET  Thu Sep 26 21:22:19 2013
From: klinela at COMCAST.NET (Laura Kline)
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 17:22:19 -0400
Subject: Kolyma tales
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I would add "Ночью", which is one of the best and provides a lot of good material for discussion.

Laura

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 26, 2013, at 5:07 PM, Robert Chandler <kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM> wrote:

> I second Josefina's suggestions and would add "Yagody" - and perhaps "Bol'", though I find the latter almost unbearably painful.  I'll add that translations of 'Po snegu', 'Yagody', 'Utka' and 'Zaklinatel' zmei' are included in my RUSSIAN SHORT STORIES FROM PUSHKIN TO BUIDA (Penguin Classics, 2005)
> 
> R.
> 
> On 26 Sep 2013, at 16:43, Josefina Lundblad <josefina.lundblad at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
>> If I can suggest three that are absolutely essential then "По снегу" (as a prelude and an introduction into the world of the camps as well as into the world of the writer), "На представку" (explore the Pushkin connection if your students are well-versed in Russian 19th cent. lit.), and "Сентенция" (because it is the greatest - to put it mildly). I hope this was helpful!
>> 
>> Josefina
>> 
>> 
>> 2013/9/26 Brunilda Lugo de Fabritz <amarilis at bugbytes.com>
>> So, I am about to teach the Kolyma tales for the first time. I would love suggestions regarding the five or six tales colleagues in the list consider essential.
>> Amarilis Lugo de Fabritz
>> Howard University 
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From bkhayden1990 at GMAIL.COM  Fri Sep 27 01:07:42 2013
From: bkhayden1990 at GMAIL.COM (Brian Hayden)
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 21:07:42 -0400
Subject: Good Russian-English and/or English-Russian Dictionaries of
 Economics, Finance, and Business
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Dear SEELANGers,

I'm looking for a good dictionary specializing in these types of terms. Can
anyone give any recommendations?

Sincerely,

Brian Hayden

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From paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM  Fri Sep 27 03:31:17 2013
From: paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM (Paul B. Gallagher)
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 23:31:17 -0400
Subject: Good Russian-English and/or English-Russian Dictionaries of
 Economics, Finance, and Business
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Brian Hayden wrote:

> Dear SEELANGers,
>
> I'm looking for a good dictionary specializing in these types of terms.
> Can anyone give any recommendations?

Here are a few, alphabetized by title. [Bracketed titles] are my 
translations; where Russian and English titles are separated by slashes, 
they both appear on the book's title page. My favorites are marked with 
asterisks at left.

Keep in mind that the vast resources of the Internet outstrip any paper 
dictionary. A good dictionary aggregator is 
<http://translate.academic.ru/>; you can also get definitions and 
explanations by selecting "толкования" instead of "переводы."

Business Russian: A Reference and Textbook, by S. Kohls. Lincolnwood, 
IL: Passport Books, 1992. Covers all aspects of business correspondence.

***Dictionnaire Commercial et Financier/Commercial and Financial 
Dictionary/Торгово-финансовый словарь, by K. S. Gavrichina et al. 
Moscow: Vikra, 1993. About 12,230 terms.

Russian-English Social Science Dictionary/Русско-английский словарь 
общественных наук, by R. E. F. Smith. Rev. & enlarged ed. Birmingham, 
England: University of Birmingham, 1990. 595 pp., includes politics & 
government, accounting & bookkeeping, planning & economics, in British 
English.

Англо-русский толковый словарь внешнеэкономических 
терминов/English-Russian Glossary of Terms on External Economic 
Activity, by V. V. Martynov. 2nd ed., exp. Moscow: Finansy i statistika, 
1994. About 950 English terms defined in Russian, plus index of Russian 
terms.

Деловая переписка с иностранными фирмами: Практическое пособие [Business 
Correspondence with Foreign Companies: A Practical Handbook]. [No author 
given]. Moscow: Imidzh, 1991. A series of lessons in textbook format 
covering correspondence in Russian, French, and English.

Коммерческий словарь [Commercial Dictionary], ed. by A. N. Azrilian. 
Moscow: Pravovaya kultura, 1992. About 3000 new economic terms defined 
in Russian.

Контрактное право. Мировая практика. Собрание документов в трёх томах 
[Contract Law: World Practice. Collected Documents], ed. by G. V. 
Petrova. 3 vols. Moscow: Imidzh, 1992. Volumes cover deals, companies, 
and real estate, with equivalent texts in both English and Russian.

Краткий русско-английский коммерческий словарь/Short Russian-English 
Business Dictionary, by I. F. Zhdanova. Moscow: Russky yazyk, 1991. 
About 5000 entries.

Краткий экономический словарь [Concise Economics Dictionary], by Yu. A. 
Belik et al. 2nd ed., exp. Moscow: Politizdat, 1989. Long explanations 
of major terms.

Маркетинг: Толковый терминологический словарь-справочник [Marketing: A 
Terminological Reference Glossary], by S. M. Vishnyakova et al. Moscow: 
Infokont, 1991. Over 1000 entries defined, with English and German 
equivalents; much of content is general business and financial vocabulary.

Письмовник для ведения деловой корреспонденции (на русском и английском 
языках). Справочник [Standard Letters for Business Correspondence (in 
Russian and English): A Handbook], by A. P. Zagorskaya et al. Moscow: 
Moskovsky rabochiy, 1992. About 300 equivalent letters and stock phrases.

Пособие по коммерческой деятельности/Manual on Business Activity, by A. 
Belekhova. Moscow: Fotex, 1992. Contains dictionary of business 
terminology, with explanations, and chapters containing translations of 
legal boilerplate. Mostly good translations of the sense of terms, with 
occasional howlers.

***Русско-английский внешнеторговый и внешнеэкономический 
словарь/Russian-English Foreign Trade and Foreign Economic Dictionary, 
by I. F. Zhdanova et al. Moscow: Russky yazyk, 1991. 4500 entries 
comprising 35,000 collocations on 1019 pp.

Русско-английский экономико-математический словарь [Russian-English 
Economics and Mathematics Dictionary], by S. V. Kazantsev. Novosibirsk: 
VO Nauka, 1993. 232 pp.

Словарь делового человека [Businessman’s Dictionary] ed. by O. V. 
Amurzhuyev. Moscow: Ekonomika, 1992. 224 pp. Aimed at familiarizing 
Russians with Western concepts of market economy, capitalism, etc.

Словарь делового человека [Businessman’s Dictionary] ed. by O. V. 
Amurzhuyev. Moscow: Ekonomika, 1992. 224 pp. Aimed at familiarizing 
Russians with Western concepts of market economy, capitalism, etc.

Словарь-справочник экономиста АПК [Reference Dictionary for the 
Agroindustrial Economist], by V. P. Korovkin et al. Moscow: Ekonomika, 
1990. Over 600 encyclopedic entries.

Статистический словарь [Statistics Dictionary], ed. by M. A. Korolëv. 
2nd ed., rev. & exp. Moscow: Finansy i statistika, 1989. Over 3000 
terms, including some from economics, computer science, and other 
related fields.

Толковый юридический словарь бизнесмена (русско-английский, 
англо-русский)/Legal Dictionary for Businessmen (Russian-English, 
English-Russian), by M. A. Baskakova. 6th ed., rev. & exp. Moscow: 
Finansy i statistika, 1994. About 2600 legal and business terms 
explained, with English equivalents; rather mediocre quality.

Экономико-математический словарь: Словарь современной экономики 
[Economics and Mathematics Dictionary: A Dictionary of Contemporary 
Economics], by L. I. Lopatnikov. 3rd ed., rev. & exp. Moscow: VO Nauka, 
1993. Thorough explanations in Russian of economic and mathematical 
terms, with English equivalents.

Экономический словарь-справочник: Для сред. и ст. шк. возраста 
[Economics Dictionary and Handbook: For Secondary- and Older 
Grammar-School Students], by V. S. Sereda et al. Minsk: Narodnaya 
asveta, 1989. Basic explanations of several hundred terms.

Note also the journal Закон. Журнал для деловых людей [Law: Journal for 
Businessmen]. Monthly 70- to 100-page legal supplement to newspaper 
Izvestia. Included business-oriented statutes, some abridged, 
commentaries and analysis by legal experts, and a monthly contribution 
by a U.S. jurist. I don't know if this one is still going, but it was 
great stuff in the mid-90s.

-- 
War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
--
Paul B. Gallagher
pbg translations, inc.
"Russian Translations That Read Like Originals"
http://pbg-translations.com

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From kb509 at CAM.AC.UK  Fri Sep 27 12:11:27 2013
From: kb509 at CAM.AC.UK (Katherine Bowers)
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 07:11:27 -0500
Subject: CFP- One-Day Symposium on New UK Research on Nineteenth-Century
 Russian Literature
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Call for Papers:

One-Day Symposium: "New UK Research in Nineteenth-Century Russian Literature"
co-organised by Dr. Katherine Bowers and Dr. Sarah Young

This symposium seeks to showcase new research on nineteenth-century Russian literature being done in the UK at present. In the past, the UK has made strong contributions to the study of the nineteenth century, but in recent years this field of study has become less visible. We propose to hold a meeting of nineteenth-century Russian literature researchers to present current research, facilitate productive discussion of the field, and, ultimately, create a lasting network that will help nineteenth-century Russian literature researchers communicate with each other to organise conferences and conference panels, special editions of journals, and other collaborative work. The symposium will culminate with a discussion of ways to make the study of nineteenth-century Russian literature more visible in the UK. 

The event will be held Saturday, February 1, 2014 at Darwin College, Cambridge.

We are accepting abstracts of 250 words for 15-20 minute research papers on any aspect of nineteenth-century Russian literature. Talks will be grouped into thematic panels and be followed by time for questions and discussion. We welcome proposals from anyone working on nineteenth-century Russian literature, but will give preference to UK-based researchers and postgraduate students. Please submit abstracts to newrusslitresearchuk at gmail.com by December 15, 2013. 

If there is interest, we will consider proposing a special journal edition with proceedings from the symposium. Additionally, participants will have the opportunity to make their talks available as podcasts. Some funding is available for accommodation and/or travel costs. This event is sponsored by a Research Network Workshop Grant from CEELBAS, and is supported by the BASEES Nineteenth-Century Study Group and the Department of Slavonic Studies at the University of Cambridge.

For more information, please visit our website: http://19thcrusslit.weebly.com.

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From tharte at BRYNMAWR.EDU  Fri Sep 27 18:16:14 2013
From: tharte at BRYNMAWR.EDU (Tim Harte)
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 14:16:14 -0400
Subject: job posting for lecturer in Russian at Bryn Mawr College
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Dear Colleagues,

Please note the following job posting in Bryn Mawr College's Department of Russian.

Thank you,

Tim Harte
Associate Professor of Russian
Chair, Department of Russian
Bryn Mawr College
tharte at brynmawr.edu




Bryn Mawr College
Department of Russian
Lecturer


The Department of Russian at Bryn Mawr College invites applications for a full-time continuing non-tenure-track position to begin August 1, 2014, in Russian language and culture. Candidates should have completed a Ph.D. in a Russian-related field by the August 1, 2014, start date and should have experience and a commitment to innovation in the teaching of Russian at all levels. Specialized knowledge in areas of Russian culture (e.g., folklore, contemporary culture) and classroom technology is highly desirable, as is the proven ability to administer federal grants. Candidates must possess native or near-native command of both Russian and English.


Submit as a single pdf document a cover letter, curriculum vitae, and teaching philosophy by November 1, 2013, to the Department of Russian Search Committee, russian_search at brynmawr.edu. In addition, arrange for three letters of recommendation to be sent via email.

 
Located in suburban Philadelphia, Bryn Mawr College is a highly selective liberal arts college for women who share an intense commitment to intellectual inquiry, an independent and purposeful vision of their lives, and a desire to make meaningful contributions to the world. Bryn Mawr comprises an undergraduate college with 1,300 students, as well as coeducational graduate programs in social work and in some humanities and sciences. The College promotes faculty excellence in both research and teaching, and has strong consortial relationships with Haverford College, Swarthmore College, and the University of Pennsylvania. Bryn Mawr College is an equal-opportunity employer; minority candidates and women are especially encouraged to apply.

 


-- 
Tim Harte
Associate Professor of Russian
Chair, Department of Russian
Bryn Mawr College
101 N. Merion Ave.
Bryn Mawr, PA 19010
(610) 526-5190

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From rm56 at COLUMBIA.EDU  Fri Sep 27 18:31:50 2013
From: rm56 at COLUMBIA.EDU (Ronald Meyer)
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 14:31:50 -0400
Subject: October 1, Book Party for Greta Slobin's RUSSIANS ABROAD
Message-ID: <FRI.27.SEP.2013.143150.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

OCTOBER 1, 2013. HARRIMAN INSTITUTE, COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY.
5:00 P.M. HARRIMAN ATRIUM

Come celebrate the publication of Russians Abroad: Literary and Cultural
Politics of Diaspora by Greta Slobin (1943-2011), published thus summer by
Academic Studies Press. Greta was a Senior Research Fellow at the Russian
Institute, Columbia University, in 1980-1981 and a Visiting Scholar at the
Harriman Institute, Columbia University, in 1996. She taught at SUNY-Albany,
Amherst College, University of California-Santa Cruz and Wesleyan
University. Her book, Remizov¹s Fictions: 1900-1921, was published in
Studies of the Harriman Institute by Northern Illinois University Press in
1991.



Greta Slobin, Russians Abroad: Literary and Cultural Politics of Diaspora
(1919-1939)
Edited by Katerina Clark, Nancy Condee, Dan Slobin, Mark Slobin
Russians Abroad presents an array of perspectives on the vivid cultural and
literary politics that marked the period immediately after the October
Revolution of 1917, when Russian writers had to relocate to Berlin and Paris
under harsh conditions. Divided amongst themselves and uncertain about the
political and artistic directions of life in the diaspora, these writers
carried on two simultaneous literary dialogues: with the emerging Soviet
Union and with the dizzying world of European modernism that surrounded them
in the West. Chapters address generational differences, literary polemics
and experimentation, the heritage of pre-October Russian modernism, and the
fate of individual writers and critics, offering a sweeping view of how
exiles created a literary diaspora. The discussion moves beyond Russian
studies to contribute to today¹s broad, cross-cultural study of the creative
side of political and cultural displacement.

Praise for Russians Abroad:

³Greta Slobin¹s highly illuminating study on Russian emigre writing of the
1920s­1940s is an important contribution to the area of Russian
twentieth-century studies. Its conceptually sophisticated theoretical
framework enables Slobin to offer significant insights into the artistic
imagination, memory wars and cultural politics of the most influential
representatives of Russian diaspora, including Bunin, Remizov, Nabokov,
Tsvetaeva and Adamovich. Being well aware of the importance of the Pushkin
myth and the Dostoevsky myth to the construction of the national identity
among Russian emigre communities, Slobin suggests that the re-discovery of
the works of Ivan Turgenev in the 1930s enabled Russian emigre authors in
France to preserve the sense of cultural continuity. In an impressive way,
Slobin manages to elucidate many complexities associated with the reception
of Russian emigre culture of the first wave in the post-Soviet Period. It is
likely to be an indispensable source of information on Russian diaspora of
the 1920s­40s for many years to come.²  ‹Alexandra Smith, Edinburgh
University
Academic Studies Press, 2013
<http://www.academicstudiespress.com/SlavicNew.aspx>




Ronald Meyer
Adjunct Associate Professor
Department of Slavic Languages, Columbia University

Communications Manager
Harriman Institute
Columbia University
420 West 118th Street, Rm. 1216
MC 3345
New York, NY 10027
212 854-6218; 212 666-3481 (fax)





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From mkatz at MIDDLEBURY.EDU  Sat Sep 28 17:30:24 2013
From: mkatz at MIDDLEBURY.EDU (Katz, Michael R.)
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 17:30:24 +0000
Subject: Big Brother?
Message-ID: <SAT.28.SEP.2013.173024.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Dear Comrades:

The following announcement was recently sent to all employees of Middlebury College.

At first I thought it was a joke; alas, it is for real.

Big Brother is watching us.

Michael Katz

EthicsPoint Reporting System

An announcement from Patrick Norton, Vice President for Finance and Treasurer

As members of Middlebury, all of us, regardless of position, share the responsibility to promote a culture of integrity. To help accomplish this goal, we have recently installed a new phone and Internet-based ethics reporting system managed by EthicsPoint.  Serving more than 2,000 organizations world-wide, EthicsPoint is committed to helping organizations like ours by facilitating the reporting and identification of issues that are inconsistent with our policies.

We hope you feel comfortable bringing potential ethical issues or concerns to your supervisor. But we understand that this is not always the case. This new system provides an alternative channel for you to communicate your concerns confidentially and anonymously. We have partnered with EthicsPoint to manage the reporting system for us. They have gone to great lengths to ensure that reports entered in the system are completely confidential.

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From genevragerhart at GMAIL.COM  Sat Sep 28 17:56:22 2013
From: genevragerhart at GMAIL.COM (Genevra Gerhart)
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 10:56:22 -0700
Subject: Big Brother?
In-Reply-To: <A682610D6A5F264ABF60972BF503E7505A5B4A3D@mountainlion.middlebury.edu>
Message-ID: <SAT.28.SEP.2013.105622.0700.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Surely, we can organize!

-----Original Message-----
From: SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures list
[mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Katz, Michael R.
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:30 AM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [SEELANGS] Big Brother?

Dear Comrades:

The following announcement was recently sent to all employees of Middlebury
College.

At first I thought it was a joke; alas, it is for real.

Big Brother is watching us.

Michael Katz

EthicsPoint Reporting System

An announcement from Patrick Norton, Vice President for Finance and
Treasurer

As members of Middlebury, all of us, regardless of position, share the
responsibility to promote a culture of integrity. To help accomplish this
goal, we have recently installed a new phone and Internet-based ethics
reporting system managed by EthicsPoint.  Serving more than 2,000
organizations world-wide, EthicsPoint is committed to helping organizations
like ours by facilitating the reporting and identification of issues that
are inconsistent with our policies.

We hope you feel comfortable bringing potential ethical issues or concerns
to your supervisor. But we understand that this is not always the case. This
new system provides an alternative channel for you to communicate your
concerns confidentially and anonymously. We have partnered with EthicsPoint
to manage the reporting system for us. They have gone to great lengths to
ensure that reports entered in the system are completely confidential.

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From jschill at AMERICAN.EDU  Sat Sep 28 20:53:43 2013
From: jschill at AMERICAN.EDU (John Schillinger)
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 16:53:43 -0400
Subject: Big Brother?
In-Reply-To: <A682610D6A5F264ABF60972BF503E7505A5B4A3D@mountainlion.middlebury.edu>
Message-ID: <SAT.28.SEP.2013.165343.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

MIchael-
	Who is behind Ethics Point?  The Koch brothers?  The Tea Party?  Our Ford?  Is there any clarity on what "our policies" in fact, are? Bringing "potential ethical issues or concerns
to your supervisor" sounds like calling for stukachi!

John


On Sep 28, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Katz, Michael R. wrote:

> Dear Comrades:
> 
> The following announcement was recently sent to all employees of Middlebury College.
> 
> At first I thought it was a joke; alas, it is for real.
> 
> Big Brother is watching us.
> 
> Michael Katz
> 
> EthicsPoint Reporting System
> 
> An announcement from Patrick Norton, Vice President for Finance and Treasurer
> 
> As members of Middlebury, all of us, regardless of position, share the responsibility to promote a culture of integrity. To help accomplish this goal, we have recently installed a new phone and Internet-based ethics reporting system managed by EthicsPoint.  Serving more than 2,000 organizations world-wide, EthicsPoint is committed to helping organizations like ours by facilitating the reporting and identification of issues that are inconsistent with our policies.
> 
> We hope you feel comfortable bringing potential ethical issues or concerns to your supervisor. But we understand that this is not always the case. This new system provides an alternative channel for you to communicate your concerns confidentially and anonymously. We have partnered with EthicsPoint to manage the reporting system for us. They have gone to great lengths to ensure that reports entered in the system are completely confidential.
> 
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Emeritus Prof. of Russian
American University

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From mkatz at MIDDLEBURY.EDU  Sat Sep 28 22:56:28 2013
From: mkatz at MIDDLEBURY.EDU (Katz, Michael R.)
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 22:56:28 +0000
Subject: FW: Big Brother?
In-Reply-To: <79FC34D88A3B9E4A91003EE7B7EE11914250BC98@balitiger.middlebury.edu>
Message-ID: <SAT.28.SEP.2013.225628.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

For anyone interested, here is the response I got when I wrote to the VP
for Finance and Treasurer.

Michael Katz

On 9/28/13 6:03 PM, "Norton, Patrick J." <pnorton at middlebury.edu> wrote:

>Dear Michael,
>
>This is no joke.  Fraud, embezzlement, and theft is an unfortunate fact
>of life and something every organization needs to guard against.  Vassar,
>Wellesley, and Wesleyan (and in our own state at Southern Vermont
>College) have been victims of significant frauds.  Many college and
>universities have implemented EthicsPoint ­ including Amherst, Bowdoin,
>Bucknell, Colgate, and Hamilton just to name a few organizations that are
>somewhat similar to us.
>
>I¹m sure I don¹t have to remind you that we are a complex organization Š
>$300 million annual budget with $1.5 billion in assets Š we operate sites
>across the U.S. and overseas Š we educate thousands of students Š we
>employ thousands of people Š we operate 12 months a year, almost around
>the clock.  For an organization our size and complexity EthicsPoint is an
>essential service.
>
>The process of implementing EthicsPoint began with a discussion with the
>audit committee of the board of trustees and our auditors who recognized
>the need to augment the current reporting process.  EthicsPoint was then
>discussed with the president and VPs Š then finally with Faculty Council
>and Staff Council.  Faculty council supports the use of EthicsPoint and
>this support was reflected in the faculty council minutes of Feb 27 and
>included in the materials that were distributed to the faculty in advance
>of the March 13 faculty meeting.
>
>One important point I want to make is that EthicsPoint is simply a tool Š
>it builds on the current reporting process that we have in place and
>makes it anonymous and of course confidential.
>
>The deployment of EthicsPoint is targeted and narrow: financial,
>HR-related items, and issues of workplace safety.  As is noted in the
>attached minutes -issues related to faculty will be directed to the VPAA.
> 
>
>Patrick J. Norton
>Vice President for Finance and Treasurer
>Middlebury College
>Middlebury, Vermont 05753
>802.443.5699
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Katz, Michael R.
>Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:33 AM
>To: Norton, Patrick J.
>Subject: FW: Big Brother?
>
>Dear Patrick:
>
>I received your message and decided to post it on the listserv of
>teachers of Russian and other Slavic languages.
>
>I am appalled by the College's decision to institute this system of
>reporting.
>
>Michael Katz
>________________________________________
>From: SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures list
>[SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Katz, Michael R.
>[mkatz at MIDDLEBURY.EDU]
>Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 1:30 PM
>To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>Subject: [SEELANGS] Big Brother?
>
>Dear Comrades:
>
>The following announcement was recently sent to all employees of
>Middlebury College.
>
>At first I thought it was a joke; alas, it is for real.
>
>Big Brother is watching us.
>
>Michael Katz
>
>EthicsPoint Reporting System
>
>An announcement from Patrick Norton, Vice President for Finance and
>Treasurer
>
>As members of Middlebury, all of us, regardless of position, share the
>responsibility to promote a culture of integrity. To help accomplish this
>goal, we have recently installed a new phone and Internet-based ethics
>reporting system managed by EthicsPoint.  Serving more than 2,000
>organizations world-wide, EthicsPoint is committed to helping
>organizations like ours by facilitating the reporting and identification
>of issues that are inconsistent with our policies.
>
>We hope you feel comfortable bringing potential ethical issues or
>concerns to your supervisor. But we understand that this is not always
>the case. This new system provides an alternative channel for you to
>communicate your concerns confidentially and anonymously. We have
>partnered with EthicsPoint to manage the reporting system for us. They
>have gone to great lengths to ensure that reports entered in the system
>are completely confidential.
>
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From ivinitsk at YAHOO.COM  Mon Sep 30 00:18:51 2013
From: ivinitsk at YAHOO.COM (Ilya Vinitsky)
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 19:18:51 -0500
Subject: Lecturer in Russian Language - University of Pennsylvania
Message-ID: <SUN.29.SEP.2013.191851.0500.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Lecturer in Russian Language

University of Pennsylvania - Philadelphia, PA

The Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures at the University of Pennsylvania invites applications for the position of Russian language instructor, beginning Fall 2014. This is a full-time, one-year position as Lecturer A, with the possibility of renewal for up to an additional two years, contingent upon a satisfactory performance review and approval of the Dean. Teaching load is six courses per year and includes four language seminars and two literature/culture courses.

The ideal candidate should hold a Ph.D. or equivalent in Russian Language and/or Literature/Culture (ABDs will be considered). We are looking  for an enthusiastic, creative instructor who has demonstrated excellence in teaching different levels of Russian language as well as introductory literature/culture courses. Complete fluency in Russian and English is required; as is familiarity with contemporary instructional technologies. Applicants should apply online at: http://facultysearches.provost.upenn.edu/postings/79.  Please submit a cover letter, CV, teaching statement; and contact information for a minimum of three individuals who have agreed to provide a recommendation letter. The University will contact the referees with instructions on how to submit their letters. We also encourage the applicants to upload three additional documents if available: 1) teaching evaluations, 2) sample syllabi, assignments, and 3) assessments, and evidence of professional development.

Applications will be reviewed beginning October 30, 2013 and will continue until the position is filled.

The Department of Slavic Languages and Literatures is strongly committed to Penn’s Action Plan for Faculty Diversity and Excellence and to establishing a diverse faculty (for more information see: http://www.upenn.edu/almanac/volumes/v58/n02/diversityplan.html.)

The University of Pennsylvania is an Affirmative Action/Equal Opportunity Employer.

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From Ronald.LeBlanc at UNH.EDU  Mon Sep 30 14:16:48 2013
From: Ronald.LeBlanc at UNH.EDU (LeBlanc, Ronald)
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 14:16:48 +0000
Subject: European University in St. Petersburg
Message-ID: <MON.30.SEP.2013.141648.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Dear SEELANGers,

I'm writing on behalf of a UNH student (a senior majoring in Russian and International Affairs) who is interested in one of the graduate programs (Energy Politics) offered by European University in St. Petersburg.

Does anyone know an American student who has enrolled in one of their graduate programs and can speak to the quality of the program?

Please reply off-line (ronald.leblanc at unh.edu) with any information you might have.

Thanks,

Ron

Ronald D. LeBlanc
Professor of Russian and Humanities
Department of Languages, Literatures, and Cultures
Murkland Hall G10H
University of New Hampshire
Durham, NH 03824
603-862-3553
ronald.leblanc at unh.edu
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From pscotto at MTHOLYOKE.EDU  Mon Sep 30 14:22:12 2013
From: pscotto at MTHOLYOKE.EDU (Peter Scotto)
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 10:22:12 -0400
Subject: FW: Big Brother?
In-Reply-To: <CE6CD690.15DCC%mkatz@middlebury.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.30.SEP.2013.102212.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

What they've gone and done is computerized "анонимные доносы."

Very nice!

(Сволочи!)



On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Katz, Michael R. <mkatz at middlebury.edu>wrote:

> For anyone interested, here is the response I got when I wrote to the VP
> for Finance and Treasurer.
>
> Michael Katz
>
> On 9/28/13 6:03 PM, "Norton, Patrick J." <pnorton at middlebury.edu> wrote:
>
> >Dear Michael,
> >
> >This is no joke.  Fraud, embezzlement, and theft is an unfortunate fact
> >of life and something every organization needs to guard against.  Vassar,
> >Wellesley, and Wesleyan (and in our own state at Southern Vermont
> >College) have been victims of significant frauds.  Many college and
> >universities have implemented EthicsPoint ­ including Amherst, Bowdoin,
> >Bucknell, Colgate, and Hamilton just to name a few organizations that are
> >somewhat similar to us.
> >
> >I¹m sure I don¹t have to remind you that we are a complex organization Š
> >$300 million annual budget with $1.5 billion in assets Š we operate sites
> >across the U.S. and overseas Š we educate thousands of students Š we
> >employ thousands of people Š we operate 12 months a year, almost around
> >the clock.  For an organization our size and complexity EthicsPoint is an
> >essential service.
> >
> >The process of implementing EthicsPoint began with a discussion with the
> >audit committee of the board of trustees and our auditors who recognized
> >the need to augment the current reporting process.  EthicsPoint was then
> >discussed with the president and VPs Š then finally with Faculty Council
> >and Staff Council.  Faculty council supports the use of EthicsPoint and
> >this support was reflected in the faculty council minutes of Feb 27 and
> >included in the materials that were distributed to the faculty in advance
> >of the March 13 faculty meeting.
> >
> >One important point I want to make is that EthicsPoint is simply a tool Š
> >it builds on the current reporting process that we have in place and
> >makes it anonymous and of course confidential.
> >
> >The deployment of EthicsPoint is targeted and narrow: financial,
> >HR-related items, and issues of workplace safety.  As is noted in the
> >attached minutes -issues related to faculty will be directed to the VPAA.
> >
> >
> >Patrick J. Norton
> >Vice President for Finance and Treasurer
> >Middlebury College
> >Middlebury, Vermont 05753
> >802.443.5699
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Katz, Michael R.
> >Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:33 AM
> >To: Norton, Patrick J.
> >Subject: FW: Big Brother?
> >
> >Dear Patrick:
> >
> >I received your message and decided to post it on the listserv of
> >teachers of Russian and other Slavic languages.
> >
> >I am appalled by the College's decision to institute this system of
> >reporting.
> >
> >Michael Katz
> >________________________________________
> >From: SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures list
> >[SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Katz, Michael R.
> >[mkatz at MIDDLEBURY.EDU]
> >Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 1:30 PM
> >To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> >Subject: [SEELANGS] Big Brother?
> >
> >Dear Comrades:
> >
> >The following announcement was recently sent to all employees of
> >Middlebury College.
> >
> >At first I thought it was a joke; alas, it is for real.
> >
> >Big Brother is watching us.
> >
> >Michael Katz
> >
> >EthicsPoint Reporting System
> >
> >An announcement from Patrick Norton, Vice President for Finance and
> >Treasurer
> >
> >As members of Middlebury, all of us, regardless of position, share the
> >responsibility to promote a culture of integrity. To help accomplish this
> >goal, we have recently installed a new phone and Internet-based ethics
> >reporting system managed by EthicsPoint.  Serving more than 2,000
> >organizations world-wide, EthicsPoint is committed to helping
> >organizations like ours by facilitating the reporting and identification
> >of issues that are inconsistent with our policies.
> >
> >We hope you feel comfortable bringing potential ethical issues or
> >concerns to your supervisor. But we understand that this is not always
> >the case. This new system provides an alternative channel for you to
> >communicate your concerns confidentially and anonymously. We have
> >partnered with EthicsPoint to manage the reporting system for us. They
> >have gone to great lengths to ensure that reports entered in the system
> >are completely confidential.
> >
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From museum at ZISLIN.COM  Mon Sep 30 14:45:54 2013
From: museum at ZISLIN.COM (Uli Zislin)
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 10:45:54 -0400
Subject: European University in St. Petersburg
In-Reply-To: <BF3F174D516621499FACBCEB4813CA56C76642B4@akers.ad.unh.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.30.SEP.2013.104554.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

                                  ULI  ZISLIN, PhD

                                    Founder, Curator, Collector

                 www.museum.zislin.com   1-301/942-2728    museum at zislin.com

   

                 American Museum of Comprehensive Russian Culture 

                          for the general public (new Project)

                http://www.museum.zislin.com/eng/americanmuseumeng.html

                                      http://museumprojects.blogspot.com/

 

                    WASHINGTON  MUSEUM OF RUSSIAN POETRY AND MUSIC

                                               www.museum.zislin.com 

                  Rockville.  Greater Washington. Founded  1997

                        

Dear Friends:

 

                Washington Museum of Russian Poetry and Music 

                            is seeking assistance for organizing 

   The American Museum of Comprehensive Russian Culture

              for the general American public:

   Literature, poetry, music, theater, opera, dance, folk, philosophy, film,
the oldest Russian cities, Russian museums and geniuses.


Regards,

 

Dr. Uli Zislin.


-----Original Message-----
From: SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures list
[mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of LeBlanc, Ronald
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 10:17 AM
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] European University in St. Petersburg

Dear SEELANGers,

I'm writing on behalf of a UNH student (a senior majoring in Russian and
International Affairs) who is interested in one of the graduate programs
(Energy Politics) offered by European University in St. Petersburg.

Does anyone know an American student who has enrolled in one of their
graduate programs and can speak to the quality of the program?

Please reply off-line (ronald.leblanc at unh.edu) with any information you
might have.

Thanks,

Ron

Ronald D. LeBlanc
Professor of Russian and Humanities
Department of Languages, Literatures, and Cultures
Murkland Hall G10H
University of New Hampshire
Durham, NH 03824
603-862-3553
ronald.leblanc at unh.edu
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From palaeoslavica at GMAIL.COM  Mon Sep 30 18:52:10 2013
From: palaeoslavica at GMAIL.COM (palaeoslavica)
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 14:52:10 -0400
Subject: New issue of Palaeoslavica: vol. XXI: nos. 1-2 for 2013
Message-ID: <MON.30.SEP.2013.145210.0400.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Dear colleagues!
I am glad to announce the publication of the new issue of Palaeoslavica:
International Journal for the Study of Slavic Medieval Literature, History,
Language and Ethnology.

Volume XXI of *PALAEOSLAVICA* for 2013 consists of two issues (307 pp., 308
pp.).

No. 1 of Palaeoslavica XXI consists of four sections. The
*Articles*section contains a study by T.P.
Lønngren on the direct influence of the* Codex* *Supraslensis* on Old
Russian hagiography; a study by T.G. Popova on the language and orthography
of the oldest Slavic MS of John Climacus' *Ladder*; an article by T.
Volodina on children's diseases and their terminology in Belorussian
folklore. The *Publications* section presents L.A. Novitskas' study on MS *
Volokolamsk-37* as a possible source of the Old Russian treatise entitled *The
Great Creation Cycle *(*Velikii Mirotvornyi krug*); continues A.B. Strakhov's
publication of the Polissian folklore (folk calendar) and presents
fairy-tales collected from a Russian village story-teller E.A.
Sirotkina by E.A.
Samodelova. The *Speculum* section contains a study by A.B. Strakhov on the
German and Slavic cults of St. Vitus and an article by K.A. Maksimovich on
the me­thodologies of Russian historical lexicographers in the 19th-20th
cc. The *Miscellanea* section contains notes by P.A. Rolland, E.A. Blinova,
A.P. Maiorov, etc.

No. 2 of Palaeoslavica XXI also consists of four sections. The
*Articles*section contains a commentary by H.
Rothe on the most ancient Slavonic liturgical hymns; a study by V.V.
Kaluginof the early 18th-century forgery of the
*Euchologion* of 1329; an article by S.A. Miliuchenkov on the terminology
of various types of wooden buildings in chancery documents of the *Grand
Duchy of Lithuania*; and an article by T.S. Kaneva on poetic formulae in
the wedding folklore of the Russian North. The *Publications* section
presents *Accounting Books* of the *Onega Stavros Monastery* (publ. and
comm. by L.IU. Astakhina) and a collection of idioms recorded from
Belorussian story-teller V.A. Gretskaia with her commentary on their usage
and meaning (publ. and comm. by G.I. Lopatin). The *Speculum* section
contains G.R. Parpulov's article on recent studies of Byzantine book
illuminations; T.G. Popova's survey of Slavic MSS of John Climacus' *Ladder*;
T. Ilieva's review of the recent study on Slavic medieval *synaxaria* by L.
Taseva; and A.B. Strakhov's examination into the origin of some Russian
words meaning ‘to deceive’, ‘to cheat’, ‘to fool’. The
*Miscellanea*section contains notes by I.
Barklay, S.K. Sevast'ianova and A.B. Strakhov.

For a Table of Contents see
http://www.palaeoslavica.com/id3.html<http://www.palaeoslavica.com>

Olga Strakhov, Palaeoslavica

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From Cynthia.Ruder at UKY.EDU  Mon Sep 30 19:37:21 2013
From: Cynthia.Ruder at UKY.EDU (Ruder, Cynthia A)
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 19:37:21 +0000
Subject: Tenure Track Position
Message-ID: <MON.30.SEP.2013.193721.0000.SEELANGS@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>

Colleagues:  Please note the Job Posting at the University of Kentucky
Applications are invited for a tenure-track position as an Assistant Professor of Russian at the University of Kentucky to begin August 2014. The successful applicant’s tenure home will be in the Department of Modern & Classical Languages, Literatures, & Cultures, a dynamic academic unit committed to interdisciplinary collaboration and dialogue among faculty with diverse geographical interests, theoretical concerns, and methodological approaches.  Applicants must have Ph.D. in hand by August 2014.  We seek candidates who can teach all levels of Russian language, courses in 20th/21st-century Russian literature, culture, and film, as well as participate in the implementation of an innovative new Russian Studies major.  Active participation in the academic life of the Department is also expected.  The teaching load is two courses per semester. Qualifications include a PhD in Slavic Studies with a focus on 20th/21st-century Russian literary, film, or cultural studies, knowledge of current language pedagogy, successful experience in teaching Russian, a robust research program, and native or near-native fluency in English and Russian. We offer a competitive salary and health benefits package. Only electronic applications will be accepted. Applicants should send a letter of application, a CV, a research statement, a teaching portfolio, writing samples, and three letters of recommendation via Interfolio at apply.interfolio.com/23092<https://app.yesware.com/tl/6002268b6ffd7340e3ea47eddf9c0d6fa9ccf4a8/a46d6f78edff07c5473da93b3f0ef597/1760c4e69516cc4c9869487827613a08?ytl=http%3A%2F%2Fapply.interfolio.com%2F23092>.  Deadline for receipt of applications is 1 December 2013.  Applications will be acknowledged. Review of applications will begin December 15 with preliminary interviews conducted via Skype in early January 2014. The University of Kentucky is an Affirmative Action/Equal Opportunity University that values diversity and is located in an increasingly diverse geographical region. It is committed to becoming one of the top public institutions in the country. Women, persons with disabilities, and members of other underrepresented groups are encouraged to apply.



Cynthia A. Ruder, Associate Professor
University of Kentucky
MCL/Russian Studies
1055 Patterson
Lexington, KY  40506-0027
859.257.7026
cynthia.ruder at uky.edu<mailto:cynthia.ruder at uky.edu>

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