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Alina Israeli aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU
Mon Jun 9 16:50:02 UTC 2014


That sounds strange to me, but then I don't attend any sporting events. The traditional one is судью на мыло. And apparently this generation of fans still uses this phrase http://russian.rt.com/inotv/2014-02-18/Sudyu-na-milo-Bolelshhiki-proveli

As for  "good night", it falls into the category of wishes with abstract nouns, so in Russian it will be genitive. Which is not quite the same as greetings (salutations), where we have petrified Nom/Acc forms. Interestingly enough, the new form of greeting follows the wish pattern: доброго времени суток, which came into existence due to the global internet use.


On Jun 9, 2014, at 8:26 AM, John Dunn <John.Dunn at GLASGOW.AC.UK> wrote:

> On the one occasion when  I went to watch an ice-hockey match in the Soviet Union, the crowd expressed its displeasure at actions on the part of the referee by chanting 'Судью со льду [sic]', a chant that takes a non-native speaker of Russian some moments to decipher.  In this and in other contexts where the accusative is used (e.g. when ordering food or drink), it is possible to interpret the sentences as requiring the insertion of a verb (or in some instances one of several possible verbs) to make them complete, as John Dingley suggests below.  But is that how native speakers interpret them?  Or are they perceived as set expressions in which the use of the accusative no longer has any particular grammatical logic?
> 
> John Dunn.


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