Ukraine/The Ukraine

Valentino, Russell Scott russellv at INDIANA.EDU
Thu Jun 19 21:22:45 UTC 2014


And we mustn¹t forget Tolstoy¹s great opus The War and The Peace, since
everybody knew which war and which peace he had in mind.

On 6/19/14, 4:11 PM, "Paul B. Gallagher" <paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM>
wrote:

>Further reading for those who are interested:
>
><http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Global-News/2009/0515/chicken-kyiv>
><http://www.csmonitor.com/The-Culture/Verbal-Energy/2014/0311/Ukraine-and-
>the-politics-of-transliteration>
>
><http://blogs.ft.com/beyond-brics/2014/03/07/kiev-vs-kyiv/>
>
>"Chicken Kyiv" --   9,070 hits
>"Chicken Kiev" -- 879,000 hits
>(as of today)
>
>
>As for "The" United States, of course it's a general grammatical rule
>that geographic names containing generics such as "states," "islands,"
>etc. take the article, even when the generic is elided ("The Bahamas").
>There's no option here. Conversely, those without generics generally do
>not take the article. "The Gambia," "the Congo," "the Ukraine," etc. are
>aberrations. (If they're literal translations from languages with
>articles, then why isn't it "the France" and "the Israel"?)
>
>The Russian Federation
>The Emerald City
>The United States/US/USA
>The United Kingdom/UK
>The French Republic
>The Falkland (Island)s
>The Florida Keys
>The European Union/EU
>The Soviet Union/USSR
>The Warsaw Pact
>The Commonwealth of Independent States/CIS
>The West Bank
>The Rive Gauche/Left Bank
>The Lower East Side (of Manhattan)
>The Mississippi (River)
>The Great Lakes
>The Democratic People's Republic of Korea/DPRK
>The People's Republic of China/PRC
>The Federal Republic of Germany/FRG
>The South of France (BE) but southern France (AE)
>etc.
>
>Organizations often lose the article when abbreviated, thus "the North
>Atlantic Treaty Organization," but not "the NATO" anymore. Similarly,
>"DOD," "DOE," and other departments of the U.S. government tend to lose
>the article in insider jargon but retain it among outsiders. Compare
>elliptical phrasings such as "Energy has to approve that," with "the
>Department of" elided.
>
>-- 
>War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
>--
>Paul B. Gallagher
>pbg translations, inc.
>"Russian Translations That Read Like Originals"
>http://pbg-translations.com
>
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