Ukraine/The Ukraine

Robert Orr colkitto at ROGERS.COM
Mon Jun 23 07:34:57 UTC 2014


Or do you think Russians suffered as much as Crimean Tartars in the Soviet Union?

Maybe they perceived themselves as such

I've just recalled a joke from the Reagan-Gorbachev era (quoting from memory)

R:in America nearly all families have cars!
G: in Lithuania nearly all families have cars!
R:  in America many families have second homes in the country!
G: in Georgia many families have second homes in the country!
R:  hey, wait a minute!  Lithuanians, Georgians!  What about ordinary Russians?
G: oh come on!  I don't ask you about Black Americans!


It would have great fun to have watched a pampered American academic to appear on Soviet TV in response to that joke explaining to ordinary Russians how they were actually "privileged"

> 
> Alina
> 
>> On Jun 22, 2014, at 1:46 PM, Stanislav Chernyshov <extraclass at LEARNRUSSIAN.RU> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Robert,
>> 
>> Being Russian I was slightly surprised Russians haven't suffered oppression. Reading some Solzhenitsyn (available in English) could really change your view.
>> And precisely because we've suffered oppression, including censorship and persecution for "thought crimes", I think many Russians can understand Jules's just defending free speech and privacy ("home") against political control of language usage.
>> 
>> Jennifer, please, for sure nobody on this list supports slavery or any sort of discrimination.
>> 
>> And, "miru mir!"
>> 
>> Stanislav
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