etymology of MANDAN

[Koontz John E]

On Sun, 1 Aug 1999, Alan H. Hartley wrote:
> John suggested Dhegiha kkaNze, a clan name. If you and he come to any
> further conclusions, I'd be grateful to hear them.

There is a lot more to it, actually.  My interpretation is based on the
assumption that where a Dhegiha group's name corresponds to a Dhegiha clan
name it comes fromt he clan name in a straightforward way (e.g., Ponca,
Osage, and, of course, Kansa), turns out to be simplistic int he case of
Kansa.  The problem here is that there is old evidence, which I'm sure
you're aware of, of a term Akansea (and numerous variants, some leading to
Arkansas) in circulation among the Great Lakes area Algonquians, e.g., the
Miami-Illinois speakers, and applying to at least the Quapaws, and
potentially to other Dhegiha speakers.  This last is, so far, not clear.
It is clearly applied to the Quapaws, but we'ver ealized we're not sure
precisely how much further it applied.  The question is somewhat
complicated, of course, by similar later terms that clearly refer to the
Kansa proper.  Bob also has a citation that he's thinking of tracking down
more precisely, though it comes essentially from one of Dorsey's river
maps, to the effect that a Quapaw told him "We are Kansa, too."

Anyway, it looks like I have to admit that the simple model clan name =>
tribal name may not apply here.