[Fwd: poison ivy]

[Bruce Ingham]

With regard to the name
cha~iyuwi iyecheca, n. The Virginia creeper, the
> woodbine, the false grape, the American
> ivy or the five-leaved ivy. The vine family. The roots
> are bad.

Does any native speaker out there know if this really is a Lakota
'name' for the plant.  The literal translation of the name is 'it is like a
vine or twisting plant' ie it looks like an 'explanation' rather than a
name.  Certain entries like this in Buechel I did not put in my
English Lakota dictionary (ie I didn't put an entry for Virginia
creeper), because of a suspicion that they were not really 'names'
as such.  I hope in a sense that I was wrong, because the more
words Lakota has, the happier I will be.


Bruce

Date sent:      	Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:33:13 -0600
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From:           	Jimm G GoodTracks <jggoodtracks at juno.com>
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Subject:        	Re: [Fwd: poison ivy]

Melvin GIlmore, (his plant book), has for Poison Oak/ Ivy:
Hthiwathehi (O/P), "plant that makes sore".
jgt

On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:28:46 -0800 (PST) Constantine Xmelnitski
<mosind at yahoo.com> writes:
> Here's what Buechel's Lakota-English dictionary search
> on "ivy" yields:
> wikhos^ka thaphez^uta, n. The small western poison
> ivy. Rhus rydbergii.The sumac family. When touched it
> causes irritations, hence the name. It is not a
> medicine plant. Cf. wikhos^ka.
> wikhos^ka, n. A venereal disease of women.
>
> cha~iyuwi iyecheca, n. The Virginia creeper, the
> woodbine, the false grape, the American
> ivy or the five-leaved ivy. The vine family. The roots
> are bad.
>
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Dr. Bruce Ingham
Reader in Arabic Linguistic Studies
SOAS