From rankin at ku.edu Fri Nov 1 19:22:39 2002 From: rankin at ku.edu (R. Rankin) Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:22:39 -0600 Subject: Fw: American Anthropologist Journal Archive Project Now Online Message-ID: I received this from my anthropologist colleagues. Bob > I am pleased to announce that the American Anthropologist Journal > Archive Project is "open for business" (as they say). You and your > students can now search for any author, name, subject, or cultural group > written about in the AMERICAN ANTHROPOLOGIST from 1888 through 2000 and > can get a summary of what was said by whom. (To try it out, simply click > on http://www.publicanthropology.org/Archive/AAListByYears .htm > ). I > would appreciate your passing this information on to your students and > colleagues. Thank you. > > Besides finding a particular author, name, subject, or cultural > group, you and your students can also take a particular year - say 1890 > - and see what topics were covered in what ways focusing on which > cultural groups. Better yet, you can compare several years - say 1890, > 1920, 1950, 1970, and 2000 - to see to what degree and in what ways > anthropology has developed over that past 110 years: How have the > questions and topics changed? In what ways has there been progress? (You > can even see how your own article is summarized in the AMERICAN > ANTHROPOLOGIST.) > > The project, involving over 70 schools from across Canada and the > United States, presents what is termed a "bifocal" view. "Bifocal" > refers to the fact that there are two summaries by two different > students at two different schools for each article and obituary. The > goal is to avoid the biases implicit in single-authored reviews so > common today. > > We have completed roughly 75% of the 8,000 summaries involved in the > AMERICAN ANTNROPOLOGIST portion of the project and expect to complete > the rest this fall. If you are interested in having one of your classes > participate in the project for CURRENT ANTHROPOLOGY or HUMAN > ORGANIZATION this coming spring - I would stress it works best when done > as a set of class assignments - all you have to do send me an e-mail at > borofsky at hpu.edu or you can click on: > http://www.publicanthropology.org/Archive/HowToParticip ate.htm > to > find out more about the project. > > Again, all you or your students have to do, to visit the archive, is > click on http://www.publicanthropology.org/Archive/AAListByYears .htm > and take > it from there. 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Rankin) Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 15:59:24 -0600 Subject: Fw: WAIL 2003 call for papers Message-ID: > Dear Professor Rankin, > > Would you mind passing this call along to anyone you think might be interested? > Thank you, > Jeanie Castillo > WAIL coordinator ----------------------- > CALL FOR PAPERS > Workshop on American Indigenous Languages > Santa Barbara, CA > April 25-27, 2003 > > The Linguistics department at the University of California, Santa Barbara > announces its sixth annual Workshop on American Indigenous Languages (WAIL), > which provides a forum for the discussion of theoretical and descriptive > linguistic studies of indigenous languages of the Americas. > > Anonymous abstracts are invited for talks on any topic in linguistics. In > addition, we will be hosting a special session on language revitalization, > therefore we encourage the submission of abstracts in this area. Talks will > be 20 minutes, followed by 10 minutes for discussion. Individuals may submit > abstracts for one single and one co-authored paper. Abstracts should be 500 > words or less and can be submitted by hard copy or email. > > For hard copy submissions, please send five copies of your abstract and a 3x5 > card with the following information: (1) name; (2) affiliation; (3) mailing > address; (4) phone number; (5) email address; (6) title of your paper. > > Send hard copy submissions to: > Workshop on American Indigenous Languages > Department of Linguistics > University of California, Santa Barbara > Santa Barbara, CA 93106 > > Email submissions are encouraged. Include the information from the 3x5 card > (above) in the body of the email message with the abstract as an attachment. > Please limit your abstracts to the following formats: PDF, RTF, or Microsoft > Word document. > > Send email submissions to: > wail at linguistics.ucsb.edu > > DEADLINE FOR RECEIPT OF ABSTRACTS: January 15, 2003 > Notification of acceptance will be by email by February 15, 2003. > > General Information: Santa Barbara is situated on the Pacific Ocean near the > Santa Ynez mountains. The UCSB campus is located near the Santa Barbara > airport. Participants may also choose to fly into LAX airport in Los Angeles > which is approximately 90 miles south of the campus. Shuttle buses run > between LAX and Santa Barbara. Information about hotel accommodations will be > posted on the web. > > For further information contact the conference coordinator at > wail at linguistics.ucsb.edu or (805) 893-3776 or check out our website at > http://orgs.sa.ucsb.edu/nailsg/ > > > -- > Jeanie Castillo > jeaniec at umail.ucsb.edu > From rood at spot.Colorado.EDU Mon Nov 18 23:19:55 2002 From: rood at spot.Colorado.EDU (ROOD DAVID S) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 16:19:55 -0700 Subject: Atlanta SSILA meeting Message-ID: I'm interested in finding a (male) roommate for the Atlanta SSILA meeting. I have made a reservation for a single, but would be happy splitting with someone. David David S. Rood Dept. of Linguistics Univ. of Colorado 295 UCB Boulder, CO 80309-0295 USA rood at colorado.edu From munro at ucla.edu Tue Nov 19 04:02:51 2002 From: munro at ucla.edu (Pamela Munro) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 20:02:51 -0800 Subject: Research on Biloxi Message-ID: I'm posting this for Tony Lopez (below) -- I told him I didn't know if anyone was currently working on the Biloxi materials, but that you guys would....Pam Greetings, My name is Tony Lopez and I'm about to start some personal research on Biloxi. Not wanting me to reproduce research that someone else has done or is already working on, Dr. Munro has suggested that I ask the members of this list if they or someone else they know is doing such work. If anyone _is_ doing such research, then I would appreciate it greatly if you could contact me, not only to avoid duplication, but also for possible collaboration. I'm in the Los Angeles area and I can be contacted at "tonyteach at email.com" or via "http://tonyteach.knows.it". Thank you for your time. Tony Lopez From John.Koontz at colorado.edu Tue Nov 19 06:55:26 2002 From: John.Koontz at colorado.edu (Koontz John E) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 23:55:26 -0700 Subject: Research on Biloxi In-Reply-To: <3DD9B7E8.A0C37A99@ucla.edu> Message-ID: On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Pamela Munro wrote: > My name is Tony Lopez and I'm about to start some personal > research on Biloxi. Not wanting me to reproduce research that someone > else has done or is already working on, Dr. Munro has suggested that I > ask the members of this list if they or someone else they know is > doing such work. Dorsey & Swanton, and Haas's comments thereon are basic, and the original materials in the NAA need to be considered because of editorial issues. Never take Swanton's analysis and classification by roots seriously. The best you can say about it is that it was rather premature. I'd be tempted to say it was even ill-advised. The main publication since these has been Paul Ferris Einaudi's Biloxi Grammar (a Ph.D. diss. at the U of Colo). This was published by Garland, but is now out of print. The dissertation would be available from UMI, and the published version would be in libraries here and there. There has been a good deal of mainly unpublished quibbling over Einaudi's analysis of the inflectional paradigms, articles, etc., in light of more recent understanding of such things in Siouan generally, and it is probably the case that her approach to normalizing the orthography by omitting diacritics has several undesirable affects, but this is essential, right after Dorsey & Swanton. It is an important tool for bringing out the Siouan structure of the data, somewhat obscured by Swanton's massaging. Unfortunately, I have the impression that Einaudi, like Kennard, having finished a dissertation on a Siouan language, has been resolute in distancing herself from further work on the language, the family, and even linguistics. Probably the main individuals working on Biloxi in recent years have been Robert Rankin (U of Ks) - especially phonology and morphology - and Dale Nicklas (independent scholar) - especially morphology and syntax. For a list of Bob's papers, see John Boyle's bibliogaphical web site. I don't know how much of Dale's work is listed there. Bob and Dale have have both considered Muskogean influences in very useful ways, e.g., I think it was Dale who first showed that Biloxi uses switch reference, though I think Bob has also looked at this, and so has Randy Graczyk. Bob has summarized Muskoean influence on lexicon, phonology and morphology. Bob has also been able to use his knowledge of comparative Siouan to good effect, e.g., in recognizing the existence of such things as aspirated stops. I know that Dick Carter has looked some at morphological issues, e.g., theme final morphophonemics, (-di as *...r-e), but I don't think he's published any of this. I think it is anticipated that a lot of it will figure in the Comparative Siouan Dictionary's introduction. I've looked some at morphology but not in any depth. I wrote a working paper on the causative, and I've tried to sort out the paradigms based on a consideration of the usual inflectional classes. I think Einaudi tended to overemphasize the simplying effects of the restructuring and to try to explain with phonological rules what is essentially the result of extensive analogical change in the already irregular pardigms of (late) Proto-Siouan. I think my only publication on this was working paper on *r-stems. Except that I don't really know what Dale Nicklas is up to, I don't think anyone is working on Biloxi in a concentated way at the moment. I think that except for Dick Carter's and Dale Nicklas's work, pretty much everything is listed at Boyle's site. However, most of it is probably going to be very difficult to lay hands on. From rwd0002 at unt.edu Tue Nov 19 17:46:06 2002 From: rwd0002 at unt.edu (rwd0002 at unt.edu) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 11:46:06 -0600 Subject: Atlanta SSILA meeting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Quoting ROOD DAVID S : > > I'm interested in finding a (male) roommate for the Atlanta SSILA meeting. > I have made a reservation for a single, but would be happy splitting with > someone. > Dear David: Interested in rooming with me? I have not made any reservations at the hotel yet, and would be happy to split with you. Willem de Reuse From hhgarvin at hotmail.com Tue Nov 19 18:36:52 2002 From: hhgarvin at hotmail.com (Henning Garvin) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 12:36:52 -0600 Subject: Schools? Message-ID: Greetings to all- First an introduction. My name is Henning Garvin and I am a Senior in Linguistics at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. I am also an enrolled member of the Ho-Chunk Nation (Wisconsin Winnebago if you are unfamiliar with the name switch). If you haven't guessed, my motives for studying linguistics are to further study our language and provide more documentation and literature where there is an apparent lack. My main priority is to provide another tool which can be used to help preserve our language, with a secondary emphasis on adding to the vast collection of linguistic theory and knowledge throughout the world. I have contacted a few of you, but I thought I would ask this generic academic question across the board. I am taking a year off to work with our Language division after graduation, but I will then be interested in attending graduate school. Would you be so kind as to make a few reccomendations? I am seriously looking at UC-Boulder and Indiana U, but I know there are other options out there. I would preferably like to work with someone concentrating on Mississippi Valley Siouan, and if possible Chiwere, but I also realize that anyone with a strong background in Siouan languages or language documentation in general would be a tremendous asset to my studies. Thank you for entertaining my questions. Henning Garvin Anthropology/Linguistics University of Wisconsin-Madison hhgarvin at hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From FurbeeL at missouri.edu Tue Nov 19 19:07:22 2002 From: FurbeeL at missouri.edu (Louanna Furbee) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:07:22 -0600 Subject: Schools? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Henning, I'm the person most recently to have worked on Chiwere, but >I'll be retiring Dec. 31 - still teaching, still working with grad >students, but you might do better to consider another more >"linguistic" department. I'd recommend Univ. of Kansas. Robert >Rankin there is unsurpased as a historical linguist, specializes >more in Dheghia, but knows about all there is to know about Chiwere >too. Furthermore, Ken Minor did excellent work on Ho-Chunk, and he >is there. Both may be retired, but they are not "retired" and could >work with you. Also, Jimm Good Tracks lives in Lawrence and may be >returning to school at KU to do a degree in Indigenous Nations >Studies (Linguistics) so he can complete his various projects on >Chiwere, so you'd likely have a student colleague. So, first choice >would be KU. Second choice would be Univ. Colo-Boulder, probably. >They've recently collected Chiwere materials for archiving, but >neither of the students involved in that want to follow up on >Chiwere studies specifically. Boulder has great archives for Siouan >languages, and a long tradition of interest in the family. Indiana >has the Native American Lgs center (or whatever it is called - Doug >Parks and Ray DeMaille's operation). They have always had students >working on Siouan languages, and they have strong support for Native >American scholars and good resources. Those would be my choices, in >that order, if I were you. All three universities have full-fledged >Linguistics Departments also. Good luck. Let me know what happens. >Best, Louanna Furbee >Greetings to all- > >First an introduction. My name is Henning Garvin and I am a Senior >in Linguistics at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. I am also an >enrolled member of the Ho-Chunk Nation (Wisconsin Winnebago if you >are unfamiliar with the name switch). If you haven't guessed, my >motives for studying linguistics are to further study our language >and provide more documentation and literature where there is an >apparent lack. My main priority is to provide another tool which >can be used to help preserve our language, with a secondary emphasis >on adding to the vast collection of linguistic theory and knowledge >throughout the world. > >I have contacted a few of you, but I thought I would ask this >generic academic question across the board. I am taking a year off >to work with our Language division after graduation, but I will then >be interested in attending graduate school. Would you be so kind as >to make a few reccomendations? I am seriously looking at UC-Boulder >and Indiana U, but I know there are other options out there. I >would preferably like to work with someone concentrating on >Mississippi Valley Siouan, and if possible Chiwere, but I also >realize that anyone with a strong background in Siouan languages or >language documentation in general would be a tremendous asset to my >studies. Thank you for entertaining my questions. > >Henning Garvin >Anthropology/Linguistics >University of Wisconsin-Madison >hhgarvin at hotmail.com > >_________________________________________________________________ >The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- Prof. N. Louanna Furbee Department of Anthropology 107 Swallow Hall University of Missouri Columbia, MO 65211 USA Telephones: 573/882-9408 (office) 573/882-4731 (department) 573/446-0932 (home) 573/884-5450 (fax) E-mail: FurbeeL at missouri.edu From rankin at ku.edu Tue Nov 19 19:17:39 2002 From: rankin at ku.edu (R. Rankin) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:17:39 -0600 Subject: Atlanta SSILA meeting Message-ID: David. I asked John if he wanted to split a room. He now is having second thoughts, and I don't know what he'll decide. If (a) you don't get other takers and (b) John decides not to attend, I'd be happy to split the cost. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: ROOD DAVID S To: Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 5:19 PM Subject: Atlanta SSILA meeting > > I'm interested in finding a (male) roommate for the Atlanta SSILA meeting. > I have made a reservation for a single, but would be happy splitting with > someone. > > David > > David S. Rood > Dept. of Linguistics > Univ. of Colorado > 295 UCB > Boulder, CO 80309-0295 > USA > rood at colorado.edu > From jbmart at wm.edu Tue Nov 19 19:39:30 2002 From: jbmart at wm.edu (Jack Martin) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:39:30 -0500 Subject: Research on Biloxi In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Does anyone have a copy of Einaudi that they'd like to sell (the Garland version)? I have to use interlibrary loan every time I consult it... Jack Martin jbmart at wm.edu At 11:55 PM 11/18/2002 -0700, you wrote: >On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Pamela Munro wrote: > > My name is Tony Lopez and I'm about to start some personal > > research on Biloxi. Not wanting me to reproduce research that someone > > else has done or is already working on, Dr. Munro has suggested that I > > ask the members of this list if they or someone else they know is > > doing such work. > >Dorsey & Swanton, and Haas's comments thereon are basic, and the original >materials in the NAA need to be considered because of editorial issues. >Never take Swanton's analysis and classification by roots seriously. >The best you can say about it is that it was rather premature. I'd be >tempted to say it was even ill-advised. > >The main publication since these has been Paul Ferris Einaudi's Biloxi >Grammar (a Ph.D. diss. at the U of Colo). This was published by Garland, >but is now out of print. The dissertation would be available from UMI, >and the published version would be in libraries here and there. There has >been a good deal of mainly unpublished quibbling over Einaudi's analysis >of the inflectional paradigms, articles, etc., in light of more recent >understanding of such things in Siouan generally, and it is probably the >case that her approach to normalizing the orthography by omitting >diacritics has several undesirable affects, but this is essential, right >after Dorsey & Swanton. It is an important tool for bringing out the >Siouan structure of the data, somewhat obscured by Swanton's massaging. >Unfortunately, I have the impression that Einaudi, like Kennard, having >finished a dissertation on a Siouan language, has been resolute in >distancing herself from further work on the language, the family, and even >linguistics. > >Probably the main individuals working on Biloxi in recent years have been >Robert Rankin (U of Ks) - especially phonology and morphology - and Dale >Nicklas (independent scholar) - especially morphology and syntax. For a >list of Bob's papers, see John Boyle's bibliogaphical web site. I don't >know how much of Dale's work is listed there. Bob and Dale have have both >considered Muskogean influences in very useful ways, e.g., I think it was >Dale who first showed that Biloxi uses switch reference, though I think >Bob has also looked at this, and so has Randy Graczyk. Bob has summarized >Muskoean influence on lexicon, phonology and morphology. Bob has also >been able to use his knowledge of comparative Siouan to good effect, e.g., >in recognizing the existence of such things as aspirated stops. > >I know that Dick Carter has looked some at morphological issues, e.g., >theme final morphophonemics, (-di as *...r-e), but I don't think he's >published any of this. I think it is anticipated that a lot of it will >figure in the Comparative Siouan Dictionary's introduction. > >I've looked some at morphology but not in any depth. I wrote a working >paper on the causative, and I've tried to sort out the paradigms based on >a consideration of the usual inflectional classes. I think Einaudi tended >to overemphasize the simplying effects of the restructuring and to try to >explain with phonological rules what is essentially the result of >extensive analogical change in the already irregular pardigms of (late) >Proto-Siouan. I think my only publication on this was working paper on >*r-stems. > >Except that I don't really know what Dale Nicklas is up to, I don't think >anyone is working on Biloxi in a concentated way at the moment. > >I think that except for Dick Carter's and Dale Nicklas's work, pretty much >everything is listed at Boyle's site. However, most of it is probably >going to be very difficult to lay hands on. From rankin at ku.edu Tue Nov 19 19:53:48 2002 From: rankin at ku.edu (R. Rankin) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:53:48 -0600 Subject: Atlanta SSILA meeting Message-ID: Sorry guys, this shouldn't have gone to the list. I erroniously hit the "reply" key. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: R. Rankin To: Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:17 PM Subject: Re: Atlanta SSILA meeting > David. > > I asked John if he wanted to split a room. He now is > having second thoughts, and I don't know what he'll > decide. If (a) you don't get other takers and (b) John > decides not to attend, I'd be happy to split the cost. > > Bob > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ROOD DAVID S > To: > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 5:19 PM > Subject: Atlanta SSILA meeting > > > > > > I'm interested in finding a (male) roommate for the > Atlanta SSILA meeting. > > I have made a reservation for a single, but would be > happy splitting with > > someone. > > > > David > > > > David S. Rood > > Dept. of Linguistics > > Univ. of Colorado > > 295 UCB > > Boulder, CO 80309-0295 > > USA > > rood at colorado.edu > > > From rankin at ku.edu Tue Nov 19 19:56:50 2002 From: rankin at ku.edu (R. Rankin) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:56:50 -0600 Subject: Research on Biloxi Message-ID: > Does anyone have a copy of Einaudi that they'd like to sell (the Garland > version)? I have to use interlibrary loan every time I consult it... My copy was so valuable that one of our students stole it (i.e., borrowed it and never returned it). I'm now reliant on the dissertation version again, but as far as I've ever been able to tell, there's not a word of difference in the two versions. So you can just get it from UMI. Bob From rankin at ku.edu Tue Nov 19 20:11:19 2002 From: rankin at ku.edu (R. Rankin) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:11:19 -0600 Subject: Siouan: Winnebago/Ho Chunk Message-ID: Let me add to Louanna's kind words that the University of Kansas has a degree-granting Indigenous Nations Studies program that has a language concentration designed specifically for those seeking to preserve and teach Native languages. We have one student now in this program who is Mandan. Indiana University also has a very active American Indian Studies program, and Colorado has strong interests in Mississippi Valley Siouan languages as well. All of us old farts at the above institutions are closing in on retirement now, but I think that all of us would be more than happy to do everything we could to help students of Siouan languages and linguistics. So whether you decide to attend one of our institutions or not, you should always feel free to come to us with questions and problems. Bob Rankin From rood at spot.Colorado.EDU Tue Nov 19 21:53:36 2002 From: rood at spot.Colorado.EDU (ROOD DAVID S) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:53:36 -0700 Subject: Schools? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Mr. Garvin, The linguistics degree programs at the Univ of Colo in Boulder don't single out either Native American studies or language preservation/revival as areas of specialization for organized degree plans, but we certainly would welcome a chance to discuss with you what you want. The department focus here is on "spoken language", which covers everything from natural language interaction with computers to conversational analysis to old fashioned descriptive linguistics of unwritten languages, therefore necessarily using spoken data. One favorite corpus used by many of our students is a few hundred hours of transcribed telephone conversations, exploring exactly how people really do manage to cooperate and communicate when the only information source is sound waves. We have several students who are working on Native American languages one way or another, and we do have a good library and my knowledge of both Siouan and language pedagogy. I'm not planning to retire for a few more years. We encourage a rapid plunge into a research program just as soon as you can find one, filling in the theoretical and methodological holes around that program as you go. Please let me know if you have questions that the dept. web site doesn't answer, or if you'd like to come for an exploratory visit sometime. David David S. Rood Dept. of Linguistics Univ. of Colorado 295 UCB Boulder, CO 80309-0295 USA rood at colorado.edu From dvklinguist at hotmail.com Wed Nov 20 20:27:05 2002 From: dvklinguist at hotmail.com (David Kaufman) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 20:27:05 +0000 Subject: Siouan: Winnebago/Ho Chunk Message-ID: Hi, I'm Dave Kaufman and have been on the Siouan list for about the past year. I just graduated with my MA in Linguistics from San Jose State and am now applying to PhD programs. I'm currently applying to three: UC Santa Barbara, U of Colorado, and U of Chicago. After your email, I'm wondering if I should also be applying to U of Kansas. I would like to study a Native American language, perhaps Ho-Chunk. I've spoken with people at U of Chicago about this. Dave >From: "R. Rankin" >Reply-To: siouan at lists.colorado.edu >To: >Subject: Siouan: Winnebago/Ho Chunk >Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:11:19 -0600 > >Let me add to Louanna's kind words that the University >of Kansas has a degree-granting Indigenous Nations >Studies program that has a language concentration >designed specifically for those seeking to preserve and >teach Native languages. We have one student now in >this program who is Mandan. Indiana University also >has a very active American Indian Studies program, and >Colorado has strong interests in Mississippi Valley >Siouan languages as well. > >All of us old farts at the above institutions are >closing in on retirement now, but I think that all of >us would be more than happy to do everything we could >to help students of Siouan languages and linguistics. >So whether you decide to attend one of our institutions >or not, you should always feel free to come to us with >questions and problems. > >Bob Rankin _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From eschudel at sasktel.net Tue Nov 26 19:28:44 2002 From: eschudel at sasktel.net (Emily Schudel) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:28:44 -0600 Subject: intro and question about PhD topic possibilities Message-ID: Hi! I am writing this email for two reasons - one, to introduce myself to the list (finally - having been in lurkdom for a VERY long time), and two - to ask a question of the list. My name is Emily Schudel, and I know I have met some of you in the past at Siouan conferences (it's been awhile...). I have just, in the past year, decided to resume my linguistic work (I completed my Masters in 1997 at the University of Regina - with a thesis on Nakoda) and just started my PhD studies at the University of Manitoba this fall. Now, for my question: I am on the prowl for a good PhD dissertation topic and for a variety of reasons, I need to narrow down my topic fairly soon. I am continuing to consider the idea of doing more fieldwork on Nakoda in Saskatchewan, but as this might not be possible (due to the lack of speakers), I was wondering if anyone out there knew of some "stuff" (i.e., texts, recordings, etc.) in Siouan (I am most interested in the Dakota/Lakota/Nakoda area, but am open to other suggestions) that needs to be worked on. I had heard a rumour at one time about a collection of Nakoda texts floating around somewhere that needed to be transcribe, but that might just be a linguist's urban legend. So, basically: one PhD student in linguistics looking to take on some lonely, but not yet forgotten, task in the Siouan area! Any suggestions on where to look - and what really needs to be worked on - are greatly appreciated! Thanks everyone! Emily From lcumberl at indiana.edu Tue Nov 26 21:21:24 2002 From: lcumberl at indiana.edu (Linda A Cumberland) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 16:21:24 -0500 Subject: intro and question about PhD topic possibilities In-Reply-To: <3DE3770C.14699.12B65F92@localhost> Message-ID: Hi Emily, Glad to hear you're getting back in the game! Still keeping your music up, though, I hope. Just to catch you up on what I've been doing since we got together, I should finish the grammar of Assiniboine that I'm writing as my dissertation by this summer. I also have two postdoctoral proposals in the works that, if one of them comes through, will have me translating and glossing a large body of texts that Ray DeMallie and Doug Parks recorded in the 1980s, plus some that I recorded during my fieldwork at CTK. It's proposed as a two year project. The grammar should be a very fruitful resource for a variety of further research topics. My greatest frustration in writing it is that there is so much more to work out than I can include in this first project. I don't know how soon you have to make a decision on this, but by August I should be able to send you a copy of the grammar - fair exchange, certainly, for your having given me a copy of your thesis when I was just starting out. I hope you will decide to continue with Nakoda. There are enough speakers left, especially at CTK, to support fieldwork, and Herb Walker was hale and hearty last time I saw him (and he is an excellent speaker). Good luck and keep in touch, Linda On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 eschudel at sasktel.net wrote: > Hi! > > I am writing this email for two reasons - one, to introduce myself to the > list (finally - having been in lurkdom for a VERY long time), and two - to > ask a question of the list. > > My name is Emily Schudel, and I know I have met some of you in the > past at Siouan conferences (it's been awhile...). I have just, in the past > year, decided to resume my linguistic work (I completed my Masters in > 1997 at the University of Regina - with a thesis on Nakoda) and just > started my PhD studies at the University of Manitoba this fall. > > Now, for my question: I am on the prowl for a good PhD dissertation > topic and for a variety of reasons, I need to narrow down my topic fairly > soon. I am continuing to consider the idea of doing more fieldwork on > Nakoda in Saskatchewan, but as this might not be possible (due to the > lack of speakers), I was wondering if anyone out there knew of some > "stuff" (i.e., texts, recordings, etc.) in Siouan (I am most interested in > the Dakota/Lakota/Nakoda area, but am open to other suggestions) > that needs to be worked on. I had heard a rumour at one time about a > collection of Nakoda texts floating around somewhere that needed to > be transcribe, but that might just be a linguist's urban legend. > > So, basically: one PhD student in linguistics looking to take on some > lonely, but not yet forgotten, task in the Siouan area! Any suggestions > on where to look - and what really needs to be worked on - are greatly > appreciated! > > Thanks everyone! > > Emily > > > From bi1 at soas.ac.uk Thu Nov 28 08:59:05 2002 From: bi1 at soas.ac.uk (bi1 at soas.ac.uk) Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 08:59:05 -0000 Subject: Lakota names for other people In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Does anyone have any explanation for the names Susuni 'Shoshone' and ChiNcakhiza 'Apache'. Is Susuni and Shoshone the name of the people for themselves, because I have seen other native names for them. If not, presumably we got Shoshone from Susuni, which looks like an uncomplementary epithet in Lakota. ChiNcakhiza seems to be formed from ChiNca 'child' and Khiza 'attack', but isn't readily interpretable. Usually Lakota names for others are fairly transparent. Any Lakotas ot Lakotanists on the line who might know? Bruce Dr. Bruce Ingham Reader in Arabic Linguistic Studies SOAS From ullrich.j at soupvm.cz Thu Nov 28 09:38:15 2002 From: ullrich.j at soupvm.cz (Jan Ullrich) Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 10:38:15 +0100 Subject: Lakota names for other people In-Reply-To: <3DE5DAD9.7171.40274D@localhost> Message-ID: I always though that the word for Apache is with non-aspirated k and with stress on the first syllable - chiN'cakiza. In that case it could be compounded from chaN (wood) + i- (with) + kaki'za (to make creaking sounds). Supposing that it is an allusion to some kind of wooden musical instrument that the Apaches (used to) use. Jan Jan Ullrich www.inext.cz/siouan > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-siouan at lists.colorado.edu > [mailto:owner-siouan at lists.colorado.edu]On Behalf Of bi1 at soas.ac.uk > Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 9:59 AM > To: siouan at lists.colorado.edu > Subject: Lakota names for other people > > > Does anyone have any explanation for the names Susuni > 'Shoshone' and ChiNcakhiza 'Apache'. Is Susuni and Shoshone the > name of the people for themselves, because I have seen other > native names for them. If not, presumably we got Shoshone from > Susuni, which looks like an uncomplementary epithet in Lakota. > ChiNcakhiza seems to be formed from ChiNca 'child' and Khiza > 'attack', but isn't readily interpretable. Usually Lakota names for > others are fairly transparent. Any Lakotas ot Lakotanists on the > line who might know? > > Bruce > > Dr. Bruce Ingham > Reader in Arabic Linguistic Studies > SOAS > > --- > Příchozí zpráva neobsahuje viry. > Zkontrolováno antivirovým systémem AVG (http://www.grisoft.cz). > Verze: 6.0.423 / Virová báze: 238 - datum vydání: 25.11.2002 > --- Odchozí zpráva neobsahuje viry. Zkontrolováno antivirovým systémem AVG (http://www.grisoft.cz). Verze: 6.0.423 / Virová báze: 238 - datum vydání: 25.11.2002 From ahartley at d.umn.edu Thu Nov 28 14:45:32 2002 From: ahartley at d.umn.edu (Alan H. Hartley) Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 08:45:32 -0600 Subject: Lakota names for other people Message-ID: > Does anyone have any explanation for the names Susuni > 'Shoshone' and ChiNcakhiza 'Apache'. Is Susuni and Shoshone the > name of the people for themselves, because I have seen other > native names for them. In Hdbk N. Amer. Indians XI. 334, Ives Goddard writes "The name Shoshone first comes to notice in reports of encounters with an Eastern Shoshone group associated with the Crow in 1805... Although Larocque specifies that this name was what they called themselves, subsequent investigators have not found it to be used by any Shoshones as a self-designation, except perhaps as a very recent borrowing from English... Some Shoshone speakers have speculated that the name may have been derived from sonippih ‘high-growing grass’, but although such a form would have regular reduplication and is grammatically possible it has not been attested in use" note: -ppih is an absolutive suffix sometimes used to form plant names (Hdbk. N. Amer. Indians XVII. 707-8); the i is unvoiced (whispered) From rlundy at huntel.net Thu Nov 28 17:12:28 2002 From: rlundy at huntel.net (rlundy at huntel.net) Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 11:12:28 -0600 Subject: Lakota names for other people Message-ID: All, It appears that "susuni" could be from "susu nice" which means "he who is without testicals" but it could be a linguistic coincidence and not Lakhota derived at all. Richard C. Lundy ---- Original Message ---- From: bi1 at soas.ac.uk To: siouan at lists.colorado.edu Subject: RE: Lakota names for other people Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 08:59:05 -0000 >Does anyone have any explanation for the names Susuni >'Shoshone' and ChiNcakhiza 'Apache'. Is Susuni and Shoshone the >name of the people for themselves, because I have seen other >native names for them. If not, presumably we got Shoshone from >Susuni, which looks like an uncomplementary epithet in Lakota. >ChiNcakhiza seems to be formed from ChiNca 'child' and Khiza >'attack', but isn't readily interpretable. Usually Lakota names for >others are fairly transparent. Any Lakotas ot Lakotanists on the >line who might know? > >Bruce > >Dr. Bruce Ingham >Reader in Arabic Linguistic Studies >SOAS > Tired of unwanted messages? Try E-Shield from HunTel.net. www.HunTel.net/eshield. From bi1 at soas.ac.uk Fri Nov 29 07:43:23 2002 From: bi1 at soas.ac.uk (bi1 at soas.ac.uk) Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 07:43:23 -0000 Subject: Lakota names for other people In-Reply-To: <305240-2200211428171228477@huntel.net> Message-ID: Thanks Richard. I had suspected something of the sort. Jan Ullrich suggestes allso that Chincakiza could be from ChaN icakiza and refer to some sort of musical instrument. It makes sense as it is kiza 'creak' not khiza 'fight', although I must say I hadn't noticed that before. Bruce On 28 Nov 2002, at 11:12, rlundy at huntel.net wrote: > > All, > It appears that "susuni" could be from "susu nice" which means "he > who is without testicals" but it could be a linguistic coincidence > and not Lakhota derived at all. > Richard C. Lundy > > ---- Original Message ---- > From: bi1 at soas.ac.uk > To: siouan at lists.colorado.edu > Subject: RE: Lakota names for other people > Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 08:59:05 -0000 > > >Does anyone have any explanation for the names Susuni > >'Shoshone' and ChiNcakhiza 'Apache'. Is Susuni and Shoshone the > >name of the people for themselves, because I have seen other > >native names for them. If not, presumably we got Shoshone from > >Susuni, which looks like an uncomplementary epithet in Lakota. > >ChiNcakhiza seems to be formed from ChiNca 'child' and Khiza > >'attack', but isn't readily interpretable. Usually Lakota names for > >others are fairly transparent. Any Lakotas ot Lakotanists on the > >line who might know? > > > >Bruce > > > >Dr. Bruce Ingham > >Reader in Arabic Linguistic Studies > >SOAS > > > > Tired of unwanted messages? Try E-Shield from HunTel.net. > www.HunTel.net/eshield. > > Dr. Bruce Ingham Reader in Arabic Linguistic Studies SOAS From rankin at ku.edu Fri Nov 1 19:22:39 2002 From: rankin at ku.edu (R. Rankin) Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:22:39 -0600 Subject: Fw: American Anthropologist Journal Archive Project Now Online Message-ID: I received this from my anthropologist colleagues. Bob > I am pleased to announce that the American Anthropologist Journal > Archive Project is "open for business" (as they say). You and your > students can now search for any author, name, subject, or cultural group > written about in the AMERICAN ANTHROPOLOGIST from 1888 through 2000 and > can get a summary of what was said by whom. (To try it out, simply click > on http://www.publicanthropology.org/Archive/AAListByYears .htm > ). I > would appreciate your passing this information on to your students and > colleagues. Thank you. > > Besides finding a particular author, name, subject, or cultural > group, you and your students can also take a particular year - say 1890 > - and see what topics were covered in what ways focusing on which > cultural groups. Better yet, you can compare several years - say 1890, > 1920, 1950, 1970, and 2000 - to see to what degree and in what ways > anthropology has developed over that past 110 years: How have the > questions and topics changed? In what ways has there been progress? (You > can even see how your own article is summarized in the AMERICAN > ANTHROPOLOGIST.) > > The project, involving over 70 schools from across Canada and the > United States, presents what is termed a "bifocal" view. "Bifocal" > refers to the fact that there are two summaries by two different > students at two different schools for each article and obituary. The > goal is to avoid the biases implicit in single-authored reviews so > common today. > > We have completed roughly 75% of the 8,000 summaries involved in the > AMERICAN ANTNROPOLOGIST portion of the project and expect to complete > the rest this fall. If you are interested in having one of your classes > participate in the project for CURRENT ANTHROPOLOGY or HUMAN > ORGANIZATION this coming spring - I would stress it works best when done > as a set of class assignments - all you have to do send me an e-mail at > borofsky at hpu.edu or you can click on: > http://www.publicanthropology.org/Archive/HowToParticip ate.htm > to > find out more about the project. > > Again, all you or your students have to do, to visit the archive, is > click on http://www.publicanthropology.org/Archive/AAListByYears .htm > and take > it from there. 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Rankin) Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 15:59:24 -0600 Subject: Fw: WAIL 2003 call for papers Message-ID: > Dear Professor Rankin, > > Would you mind passing this call along to anyone you think might be interested? > Thank you, > Jeanie Castillo > WAIL coordinator ----------------------- > CALL FOR PAPERS > Workshop on American Indigenous Languages > Santa Barbara, CA > April 25-27, 2003 > > The Linguistics department at the University of California, Santa Barbara > announces its sixth annual Workshop on American Indigenous Languages (WAIL), > which provides a forum for the discussion of theoretical and descriptive > linguistic studies of indigenous languages of the Americas. > > Anonymous abstracts are invited for talks on any topic in linguistics. In > addition, we will be hosting a special session on language revitalization, > therefore we encourage the submission of abstracts in this area. Talks will > be 20 minutes, followed by 10 minutes for discussion. Individuals may submit > abstracts for one single and one co-authored paper. Abstracts should be 500 > words or less and can be submitted by hard copy or email. > > For hard copy submissions, please send five copies of your abstract and a 3x5 > card with the following information: (1) name; (2) affiliation; (3) mailing > address; (4) phone number; (5) email address; (6) title of your paper. > > Send hard copy submissions to: > Workshop on American Indigenous Languages > Department of Linguistics > University of California, Santa Barbara > Santa Barbara, CA 93106 > > Email submissions are encouraged. Include the information from the 3x5 card > (above) in the body of the email message with the abstract as an attachment. > Please limit your abstracts to the following formats: PDF, RTF, or Microsoft > Word document. > > Send email submissions to: > wail at linguistics.ucsb.edu > > DEADLINE FOR RECEIPT OF ABSTRACTS: January 15, 2003 > Notification of acceptance will be by email by February 15, 2003. > > General Information: Santa Barbara is situated on the Pacific Ocean near the > Santa Ynez mountains. The UCSB campus is located near the Santa Barbara > airport. Participants may also choose to fly into LAX airport in Los Angeles > which is approximately 90 miles south of the campus. Shuttle buses run > between LAX and Santa Barbara. Information about hotel accommodations will be > posted on the web. > > For further information contact the conference coordinator at > wail at linguistics.ucsb.edu or (805) 893-3776 or check out our website at > http://orgs.sa.ucsb.edu/nailsg/ > > > -- > Jeanie Castillo > jeaniec at umail.ucsb.edu > From rood at spot.Colorado.EDU Mon Nov 18 23:19:55 2002 From: rood at spot.Colorado.EDU (ROOD DAVID S) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 16:19:55 -0700 Subject: Atlanta SSILA meeting Message-ID: I'm interested in finding a (male) roommate for the Atlanta SSILA meeting. I have made a reservation for a single, but would be happy splitting with someone. David David S. Rood Dept. of Linguistics Univ. of Colorado 295 UCB Boulder, CO 80309-0295 USA rood at colorado.edu From munro at ucla.edu Tue Nov 19 04:02:51 2002 From: munro at ucla.edu (Pamela Munro) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 20:02:51 -0800 Subject: Research on Biloxi Message-ID: I'm posting this for Tony Lopez (below) -- I told him I didn't know if anyone was currently working on the Biloxi materials, but that you guys would....Pam Greetings, My name is Tony Lopez and I'm about to start some personal research on Biloxi. Not wanting me to reproduce research that someone else has done or is already working on, Dr. Munro has suggested that I ask the members of this list if they or someone else they know is doing such work. If anyone _is_ doing such research, then I would appreciate it greatly if you could contact me, not only to avoid duplication, but also for possible collaboration. I'm in the Los Angeles area and I can be contacted at "tonyteach at email.com" or via "http://tonyteach.knows.it". Thank you for your time. Tony Lopez From John.Koontz at colorado.edu Tue Nov 19 06:55:26 2002 From: John.Koontz at colorado.edu (Koontz John E) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 23:55:26 -0700 Subject: Research on Biloxi In-Reply-To: <3DD9B7E8.A0C37A99@ucla.edu> Message-ID: On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Pamela Munro wrote: > My name is Tony Lopez and I'm about to start some personal > research on Biloxi. Not wanting me to reproduce research that someone > else has done or is already working on, Dr. Munro has suggested that I > ask the members of this list if they or someone else they know is > doing such work. Dorsey & Swanton, and Haas's comments thereon are basic, and the original materials in the NAA need to be considered because of editorial issues. Never take Swanton's analysis and classification by roots seriously. The best you can say about it is that it was rather premature. I'd be tempted to say it was even ill-advised. The main publication since these has been Paul Ferris Einaudi's Biloxi Grammar (a Ph.D. diss. at the U of Colo). This was published by Garland, but is now out of print. The dissertation would be available from UMI, and the published version would be in libraries here and there. There has been a good deal of mainly unpublished quibbling over Einaudi's analysis of the inflectional paradigms, articles, etc., in light of more recent understanding of such things in Siouan generally, and it is probably the case that her approach to normalizing the orthography by omitting diacritics has several undesirable affects, but this is essential, right after Dorsey & Swanton. It is an important tool for bringing out the Siouan structure of the data, somewhat obscured by Swanton's massaging. Unfortunately, I have the impression that Einaudi, like Kennard, having finished a dissertation on a Siouan language, has been resolute in distancing herself from further work on the language, the family, and even linguistics. Probably the main individuals working on Biloxi in recent years have been Robert Rankin (U of Ks) - especially phonology and morphology - and Dale Nicklas (independent scholar) - especially morphology and syntax. For a list of Bob's papers, see John Boyle's bibliogaphical web site. I don't know how much of Dale's work is listed there. Bob and Dale have have both considered Muskogean influences in very useful ways, e.g., I think it was Dale who first showed that Biloxi uses switch reference, though I think Bob has also looked at this, and so has Randy Graczyk. Bob has summarized Muskoean influence on lexicon, phonology and morphology. Bob has also been able to use his knowledge of comparative Siouan to good effect, e.g., in recognizing the existence of such things as aspirated stops. I know that Dick Carter has looked some at morphological issues, e.g., theme final morphophonemics, (-di as *...r-e), but I don't think he's published any of this. I think it is anticipated that a lot of it will figure in the Comparative Siouan Dictionary's introduction. I've looked some at morphology but not in any depth. I wrote a working paper on the causative, and I've tried to sort out the paradigms based on a consideration of the usual inflectional classes. I think Einaudi tended to overemphasize the simplying effects of the restructuring and to try to explain with phonological rules what is essentially the result of extensive analogical change in the already irregular pardigms of (late) Proto-Siouan. I think my only publication on this was working paper on *r-stems. Except that I don't really know what Dale Nicklas is up to, I don't think anyone is working on Biloxi in a concentated way at the moment. I think that except for Dick Carter's and Dale Nicklas's work, pretty much everything is listed at Boyle's site. However, most of it is probably going to be very difficult to lay hands on. From rwd0002 at unt.edu Tue Nov 19 17:46:06 2002 From: rwd0002 at unt.edu (rwd0002 at unt.edu) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 11:46:06 -0600 Subject: Atlanta SSILA meeting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Quoting ROOD DAVID S : > > I'm interested in finding a (male) roommate for the Atlanta SSILA meeting. > I have made a reservation for a single, but would be happy splitting with > someone. > Dear David: Interested in rooming with me? I have not made any reservations at the hotel yet, and would be happy to split with you. Willem de Reuse From hhgarvin at hotmail.com Tue Nov 19 18:36:52 2002 From: hhgarvin at hotmail.com (Henning Garvin) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 12:36:52 -0600 Subject: Schools? Message-ID: Greetings to all- First an introduction. My name is Henning Garvin and I am a Senior in Linguistics at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. I am also an enrolled member of the Ho-Chunk Nation (Wisconsin Winnebago if you are unfamiliar with the name switch). If you haven't guessed, my motives for studying linguistics are to further study our language and provide more documentation and literature where there is an apparent lack. My main priority is to provide another tool which can be used to help preserve our language, with a secondary emphasis on adding to the vast collection of linguistic theory and knowledge throughout the world. I have contacted a few of you, but I thought I would ask this generic academic question across the board. I am taking a year off to work with our Language division after graduation, but I will then be interested in attending graduate school. Would you be so kind as to make a few reccomendations? I am seriously looking at UC-Boulder and Indiana U, but I know there are other options out there. I would preferably like to work with someone concentrating on Mississippi Valley Siouan, and if possible Chiwere, but I also realize that anyone with a strong background in Siouan languages or language documentation in general would be a tremendous asset to my studies. Thank you for entertaining my questions. Henning Garvin Anthropology/Linguistics University of Wisconsin-Madison hhgarvin at hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From FurbeeL at missouri.edu Tue Nov 19 19:07:22 2002 From: FurbeeL at missouri.edu (Louanna Furbee) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:07:22 -0600 Subject: Schools? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Henning, I'm the person most recently to have worked on Chiwere, but >I'll be retiring Dec. 31 - still teaching, still working with grad >students, but you might do better to consider another more >"linguistic" department. I'd recommend Univ. of Kansas. Robert >Rankin there is unsurpased as a historical linguist, specializes >more in Dheghia, but knows about all there is to know about Chiwere >too. Furthermore, Ken Minor did excellent work on Ho-Chunk, and he >is there. Both may be retired, but they are not "retired" and could >work with you. Also, Jimm Good Tracks lives in Lawrence and may be >returning to school at KU to do a degree in Indigenous Nations >Studies (Linguistics) so he can complete his various projects on >Chiwere, so you'd likely have a student colleague. So, first choice >would be KU. Second choice would be Univ. Colo-Boulder, probably. >They've recently collected Chiwere materials for archiving, but >neither of the students involved in that want to follow up on >Chiwere studies specifically. Boulder has great archives for Siouan >languages, and a long tradition of interest in the family. Indiana >has the Native American Lgs center (or whatever it is called - Doug >Parks and Ray DeMaille's operation). They have always had students >working on Siouan languages, and they have strong support for Native >American scholars and good resources. Those would be my choices, in >that order, if I were you. All three universities have full-fledged >Linguistics Departments also. Good luck. Let me know what happens. >Best, Louanna Furbee >Greetings to all- > >First an introduction. My name is Henning Garvin and I am a Senior >in Linguistics at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. I am also an >enrolled member of the Ho-Chunk Nation (Wisconsin Winnebago if you >are unfamiliar with the name switch). If you haven't guessed, my >motives for studying linguistics are to further study our language >and provide more documentation and literature where there is an >apparent lack. My main priority is to provide another tool which >can be used to help preserve our language, with a secondary emphasis >on adding to the vast collection of linguistic theory and knowledge >throughout the world. > >I have contacted a few of you, but I thought I would ask this >generic academic question across the board. I am taking a year off >to work with our Language division after graduation, but I will then >be interested in attending graduate school. Would you be so kind as >to make a few reccomendations? I am seriously looking at UC-Boulder >and Indiana U, but I know there are other options out there. I >would preferably like to work with someone concentrating on >Mississippi Valley Siouan, and if possible Chiwere, but I also >realize that anyone with a strong background in Siouan languages or >language documentation in general would be a tremendous asset to my >studies. Thank you for entertaining my questions. > >Henning Garvin >Anthropology/Linguistics >University of Wisconsin-Madison >hhgarvin at hotmail.com > >_________________________________________________________________ >The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- Prof. N. Louanna Furbee Department of Anthropology 107 Swallow Hall University of Missouri Columbia, MO 65211 USA Telephones: 573/882-9408 (office) 573/882-4731 (department) 573/446-0932 (home) 573/884-5450 (fax) E-mail: FurbeeL at missouri.edu From rankin at ku.edu Tue Nov 19 19:17:39 2002 From: rankin at ku.edu (R. Rankin) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:17:39 -0600 Subject: Atlanta SSILA meeting Message-ID: David. I asked John if he wanted to split a room. He now is having second thoughts, and I don't know what he'll decide. If (a) you don't get other takers and (b) John decides not to attend, I'd be happy to split the cost. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: ROOD DAVID S To: Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 5:19 PM Subject: Atlanta SSILA meeting > > I'm interested in finding a (male) roommate for the Atlanta SSILA meeting. > I have made a reservation for a single, but would be happy splitting with > someone. > > David > > David S. Rood > Dept. of Linguistics > Univ. of Colorado > 295 UCB > Boulder, CO 80309-0295 > USA > rood at colorado.edu > From jbmart at wm.edu Tue Nov 19 19:39:30 2002 From: jbmart at wm.edu (Jack Martin) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:39:30 -0500 Subject: Research on Biloxi In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Does anyone have a copy of Einaudi that they'd like to sell (the Garland version)? I have to use interlibrary loan every time I consult it... Jack Martin jbmart at wm.edu At 11:55 PM 11/18/2002 -0700, you wrote: >On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Pamela Munro wrote: > > My name is Tony Lopez and I'm about to start some personal > > research on Biloxi. Not wanting me to reproduce research that someone > > else has done or is already working on, Dr. Munro has suggested that I > > ask the members of this list if they or someone else they know is > > doing such work. > >Dorsey & Swanton, and Haas's comments thereon are basic, and the original >materials in the NAA need to be considered because of editorial issues. >Never take Swanton's analysis and classification by roots seriously. >The best you can say about it is that it was rather premature. I'd be >tempted to say it was even ill-advised. > >The main publication since these has been Paul Ferris Einaudi's Biloxi >Grammar (a Ph.D. diss. at the U of Colo). This was published by Garland, >but is now out of print. The dissertation would be available from UMI, >and the published version would be in libraries here and there. There has >been a good deal of mainly unpublished quibbling over Einaudi's analysis >of the inflectional paradigms, articles, etc., in light of more recent >understanding of such things in Siouan generally, and it is probably the >case that her approach to normalizing the orthography by omitting >diacritics has several undesirable affects, but this is essential, right >after Dorsey & Swanton. It is an important tool for bringing out the >Siouan structure of the data, somewhat obscured by Swanton's massaging. >Unfortunately, I have the impression that Einaudi, like Kennard, having >finished a dissertation on a Siouan language, has been resolute in >distancing herself from further work on the language, the family, and even >linguistics. > >Probably the main individuals working on Biloxi in recent years have been >Robert Rankin (U of Ks) - especially phonology and morphology - and Dale >Nicklas (independent scholar) - especially morphology and syntax. For a >list of Bob's papers, see John Boyle's bibliogaphical web site. I don't >know how much of Dale's work is listed there. Bob and Dale have have both >considered Muskogean influences in very useful ways, e.g., I think it was >Dale who first showed that Biloxi uses switch reference, though I think >Bob has also looked at this, and so has Randy Graczyk. Bob has summarized >Muskoean influence on lexicon, phonology and morphology. Bob has also >been able to use his knowledge of comparative Siouan to good effect, e.g., >in recognizing the existence of such things as aspirated stops. > >I know that Dick Carter has looked some at morphological issues, e.g., >theme final morphophonemics, (-di as *...r-e), but I don't think he's >published any of this. I think it is anticipated that a lot of it will >figure in the Comparative Siouan Dictionary's introduction. > >I've looked some at morphology but not in any depth. I wrote a working >paper on the causative, and I've tried to sort out the paradigms based on >a consideration of the usual inflectional classes. I think Einaudi tended >to overemphasize the simplying effects of the restructuring and to try to >explain with phonological rules what is essentially the result of >extensive analogical change in the already irregular pardigms of (late) >Proto-Siouan. I think my only publication on this was working paper on >*r-stems. > >Except that I don't really know what Dale Nicklas is up to, I don't think >anyone is working on Biloxi in a concentated way at the moment. > >I think that except for Dick Carter's and Dale Nicklas's work, pretty much >everything is listed at Boyle's site. However, most of it is probably >going to be very difficult to lay hands on. From rankin at ku.edu Tue Nov 19 19:53:48 2002 From: rankin at ku.edu (R. Rankin) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:53:48 -0600 Subject: Atlanta SSILA meeting Message-ID: Sorry guys, this shouldn't have gone to the list. I erroniously hit the "reply" key. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: R. Rankin To: Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:17 PM Subject: Re: Atlanta SSILA meeting > David. > > I asked John if he wanted to split a room. He now is > having second thoughts, and I don't know what he'll > decide. If (a) you don't get other takers and (b) John > decides not to attend, I'd be happy to split the cost. > > Bob > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ROOD DAVID S > To: > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 5:19 PM > Subject: Atlanta SSILA meeting > > > > > > I'm interested in finding a (male) roommate for the > Atlanta SSILA meeting. > > I have made a reservation for a single, but would be > happy splitting with > > someone. > > > > David > > > > David S. Rood > > Dept. of Linguistics > > Univ. of Colorado > > 295 UCB > > Boulder, CO 80309-0295 > > USA > > rood at colorado.edu > > > From rankin at ku.edu Tue Nov 19 19:56:50 2002 From: rankin at ku.edu (R. Rankin) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:56:50 -0600 Subject: Research on Biloxi Message-ID: > Does anyone have a copy of Einaudi that they'd like to sell (the Garland > version)? I have to use interlibrary loan every time I consult it... My copy was so valuable that one of our students stole it (i.e., borrowed it and never returned it). I'm now reliant on the dissertation version again, but as far as I've ever been able to tell, there's not a word of difference in the two versions. So you can just get it from UMI. Bob From rankin at ku.edu Tue Nov 19 20:11:19 2002 From: rankin at ku.edu (R. Rankin) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:11:19 -0600 Subject: Siouan: Winnebago/Ho Chunk Message-ID: Let me add to Louanna's kind words that the University of Kansas has a degree-granting Indigenous Nations Studies program that has a language concentration designed specifically for those seeking to preserve and teach Native languages. We have one student now in this program who is Mandan. Indiana University also has a very active American Indian Studies program, and Colorado has strong interests in Mississippi Valley Siouan languages as well. All of us old farts at the above institutions are closing in on retirement now, but I think that all of us would be more than happy to do everything we could to help students of Siouan languages and linguistics. So whether you decide to attend one of our institutions or not, you should always feel free to come to us with questions and problems. Bob Rankin From rood at spot.Colorado.EDU Tue Nov 19 21:53:36 2002 From: rood at spot.Colorado.EDU (ROOD DAVID S) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:53:36 -0700 Subject: Schools? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Mr. Garvin, The linguistics degree programs at the Univ of Colo in Boulder don't single out either Native American studies or language preservation/revival as areas of specialization for organized degree plans, but we certainly would welcome a chance to discuss with you what you want. The department focus here is on "spoken language", which covers everything from natural language interaction with computers to conversational analysis to old fashioned descriptive linguistics of unwritten languages, therefore necessarily using spoken data. One favorite corpus used by many of our students is a few hundred hours of transcribed telephone conversations, exploring exactly how people really do manage to cooperate and communicate when the only information source is sound waves. We have several students who are working on Native American languages one way or another, and we do have a good library and my knowledge of both Siouan and language pedagogy. I'm not planning to retire for a few more years. We encourage a rapid plunge into a research program just as soon as you can find one, filling in the theoretical and methodological holes around that program as you go. Please let me know if you have questions that the dept. web site doesn't answer, or if you'd like to come for an exploratory visit sometime. David David S. Rood Dept. of Linguistics Univ. of Colorado 295 UCB Boulder, CO 80309-0295 USA rood at colorado.edu From dvklinguist at hotmail.com Wed Nov 20 20:27:05 2002 From: dvklinguist at hotmail.com (David Kaufman) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 20:27:05 +0000 Subject: Siouan: Winnebago/Ho Chunk Message-ID: Hi, I'm Dave Kaufman and have been on the Siouan list for about the past year. I just graduated with my MA in Linguistics from San Jose State and am now applying to PhD programs. I'm currently applying to three: UC Santa Barbara, U of Colorado, and U of Chicago. After your email, I'm wondering if I should also be applying to U of Kansas. I would like to study a Native American language, perhaps Ho-Chunk. I've spoken with people at U of Chicago about this. Dave >From: "R. Rankin" >Reply-To: siouan at lists.colorado.edu >To: >Subject: Siouan: Winnebago/Ho Chunk >Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:11:19 -0600 > >Let me add to Louanna's kind words that the University >of Kansas has a degree-granting Indigenous Nations >Studies program that has a language concentration >designed specifically for those seeking to preserve and >teach Native languages. We have one student now in >this program who is Mandan. Indiana University also >has a very active American Indian Studies program, and >Colorado has strong interests in Mississippi Valley >Siouan languages as well. > >All of us old farts at the above institutions are >closing in on retirement now, but I think that all of >us would be more than happy to do everything we could >to help students of Siouan languages and linguistics. >So whether you decide to attend one of our institutions >or not, you should always feel free to come to us with >questions and problems. > >Bob Rankin _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From eschudel at sasktel.net Tue Nov 26 19:28:44 2002 From: eschudel at sasktel.net (Emily Schudel) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:28:44 -0600 Subject: intro and question about PhD topic possibilities Message-ID: Hi! I am writing this email for two reasons - one, to introduce myself to the list (finally - having been in lurkdom for a VERY long time), and two - to ask a question of the list. My name is Emily Schudel, and I know I have met some of you in the past at Siouan conferences (it's been awhile...). I have just, in the past year, decided to resume my linguistic work (I completed my Masters in 1997 at the University of Regina - with a thesis on Nakoda) and just started my PhD studies at the University of Manitoba this fall. Now, for my question: I am on the prowl for a good PhD dissertation topic and for a variety of reasons, I need to narrow down my topic fairly soon. I am continuing to consider the idea of doing more fieldwork on Nakoda in Saskatchewan, but as this might not be possible (due to the lack of speakers), I was wondering if anyone out there knew of some "stuff" (i.e., texts, recordings, etc.) in Siouan (I am most interested in the Dakota/Lakota/Nakoda area, but am open to other suggestions) that needs to be worked on. I had heard a rumour at one time about a collection of Nakoda texts floating around somewhere that needed to be transcribe, but that might just be a linguist's urban legend. So, basically: one PhD student in linguistics looking to take on some lonely, but not yet forgotten, task in the Siouan area! Any suggestions on where to look - and what really needs to be worked on - are greatly appreciated! Thanks everyone! Emily From lcumberl at indiana.edu Tue Nov 26 21:21:24 2002 From: lcumberl at indiana.edu (Linda A Cumberland) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 16:21:24 -0500 Subject: intro and question about PhD topic possibilities In-Reply-To: <3DE3770C.14699.12B65F92@localhost> Message-ID: Hi Emily, Glad to hear you're getting back in the game! Still keeping your music up, though, I hope. Just to catch you up on what I've been doing since we got together, I should finish the grammar of Assiniboine that I'm writing as my dissertation by this summer. I also have two postdoctoral proposals in the works that, if one of them comes through, will have me translating and glossing a large body of texts that Ray DeMallie and Doug Parks recorded in the 1980s, plus some that I recorded during my fieldwork at CTK. It's proposed as a two year project. The grammar should be a very fruitful resource for a variety of further research topics. My greatest frustration in writing it is that there is so much more to work out than I can include in this first project. I don't know how soon you have to make a decision on this, but by August I should be able to send you a copy of the grammar - fair exchange, certainly, for your having given me a copy of your thesis when I was just starting out. I hope you will decide to continue with Nakoda. There are enough speakers left, especially at CTK, to support fieldwork, and Herb Walker was hale and hearty last time I saw him (and he is an excellent speaker). Good luck and keep in touch, Linda On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 eschudel at sasktel.net wrote: > Hi! > > I am writing this email for two reasons - one, to introduce myself to the > list (finally - having been in lurkdom for a VERY long time), and two - to > ask a question of the list. > > My name is Emily Schudel, and I know I have met some of you in the > past at Siouan conferences (it's been awhile...). I have just, in the past > year, decided to resume my linguistic work (I completed my Masters in > 1997 at the University of Regina - with a thesis on Nakoda) and just > started my PhD studies at the University of Manitoba this fall. > > Now, for my question: I am on the prowl for a good PhD dissertation > topic and for a variety of reasons, I need to narrow down my topic fairly > soon. I am continuing to consider the idea of doing more fieldwork on > Nakoda in Saskatchewan, but as this might not be possible (due to the > lack of speakers), I was wondering if anyone out there knew of some > "stuff" (i.e., texts, recordings, etc.) in Siouan (I am most interested in > the Dakota/Lakota/Nakoda area, but am open to other suggestions) > that needs to be worked on. I had heard a rumour at one time about a > collection of Nakoda texts floating around somewhere that needed to > be transcribe, but that might just be a linguist's urban legend. > > So, basically: one PhD student in linguistics looking to take on some > lonely, but not yet forgotten, task in the Siouan area! Any suggestions > on where to look - and what really needs to be worked on - are greatly > appreciated! > > Thanks everyone! > > Emily > > > From bi1 at soas.ac.uk Thu Nov 28 08:59:05 2002 From: bi1 at soas.ac.uk (bi1 at soas.ac.uk) Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 08:59:05 -0000 Subject: Lakota names for other people In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Does anyone have any explanation for the names Susuni 'Shoshone' and ChiNcakhiza 'Apache'. Is Susuni and Shoshone the name of the people for themselves, because I have seen other native names for them. If not, presumably we got Shoshone from Susuni, which looks like an uncomplementary epithet in Lakota. ChiNcakhiza seems to be formed from ChiNca 'child' and Khiza 'attack', but isn't readily interpretable. Usually Lakota names for others are fairly transparent. Any Lakotas ot Lakotanists on the line who might know? Bruce Dr. Bruce Ingham Reader in Arabic Linguistic Studies SOAS From ullrich.j at soupvm.cz Thu Nov 28 09:38:15 2002 From: ullrich.j at soupvm.cz (Jan Ullrich) Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 10:38:15 +0100 Subject: Lakota names for other people In-Reply-To: <3DE5DAD9.7171.40274D@localhost> Message-ID: I always though that the word for Apache is with non-aspirated k and with stress on the first syllable - chiN'cakiza. In that case it could be compounded from chaN (wood) + i- (with) + kaki'za (to make creaking sounds). Supposing that it is an allusion to some kind of wooden musical instrument that the Apaches (used to) use. Jan Jan Ullrich www.inext.cz/siouan > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-siouan at lists.colorado.edu > [mailto:owner-siouan at lists.colorado.edu]On Behalf Of bi1 at soas.ac.uk > Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 9:59 AM > To: siouan at lists.colorado.edu > Subject: Lakota names for other people > > > Does anyone have any explanation for the names Susuni > 'Shoshone' and ChiNcakhiza 'Apache'. Is Susuni and Shoshone the > name of the people for themselves, because I have seen other > native names for them. If not, presumably we got Shoshone from > Susuni, which looks like an uncomplementary epithet in Lakota. > ChiNcakhiza seems to be formed from ChiNca 'child' and Khiza > 'attack', but isn't readily interpretable. Usually Lakota names for > others are fairly transparent. Any Lakotas ot Lakotanists on the > line who might know? > > Bruce > > Dr. Bruce Ingham > Reader in Arabic Linguistic Studies > SOAS > > --- > P??choz? zpr?va neobsahuje viry. > Zkontrolov?no antivirov?m syst?mem AVG (http://www.grisoft.cz). > Verze: 6.0.423 / Virov? b?ze: 238 - datum vyd?n?: 25.11.2002 > --- Odchoz? zpr?va neobsahuje viry. Zkontrolov?no antivirov?m syst?mem AVG (http://www.grisoft.cz). Verze: 6.0.423 / Virov? b?ze: 238 - datum vyd?n?: 25.11.2002 From ahartley at d.umn.edu Thu Nov 28 14:45:32 2002 From: ahartley at d.umn.edu (Alan H. Hartley) Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 08:45:32 -0600 Subject: Lakota names for other people Message-ID: > Does anyone have any explanation for the names Susuni > 'Shoshone' and ChiNcakhiza 'Apache'. Is Susuni and Shoshone the > name of the people for themselves, because I have seen other > native names for them. In Hdbk N. Amer. Indians XI. 334, Ives Goddard writes "The name Shoshone first comes to notice in reports of encounters with an Eastern Shoshone group associated with the Crow in 1805... Although Larocque specifies that this name was what they called themselves, subsequent investigators have not found it to be used by any Shoshones as a self-designation, except perhaps as a very recent borrowing from English... Some Shoshone speakers have speculated that the name may have been derived from sonippih ?high-growing grass?, but although such a form would have regular reduplication and is grammatically possible it has not been attested in use" note: -ppih is an absolutive suffix sometimes used to form plant names (Hdbk. N. Amer. Indians XVII. 707-8); the i is unvoiced (whispered) From rlundy at huntel.net Thu Nov 28 17:12:28 2002 From: rlundy at huntel.net (rlundy at huntel.net) Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 11:12:28 -0600 Subject: Lakota names for other people Message-ID: All, It appears that "susuni" could be from "susu nice" which means "he who is without testicals" but it could be a linguistic coincidence and not Lakhota derived at all. Richard C. Lundy ---- Original Message ---- From: bi1 at soas.ac.uk To: siouan at lists.colorado.edu Subject: RE: Lakota names for other people Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 08:59:05 -0000 >Does anyone have any explanation for the names Susuni >'Shoshone' and ChiNcakhiza 'Apache'. Is Susuni and Shoshone the >name of the people for themselves, because I have seen other >native names for them. If not, presumably we got Shoshone from >Susuni, which looks like an uncomplementary epithet in Lakota. >ChiNcakhiza seems to be formed from ChiNca 'child' and Khiza >'attack', but isn't readily interpretable. Usually Lakota names for >others are fairly transparent. Any Lakotas ot Lakotanists on the >line who might know? > >Bruce > >Dr. Bruce Ingham >Reader in Arabic Linguistic Studies >SOAS > Tired of unwanted messages? Try E-Shield from HunTel.net. www.HunTel.net/eshield. From bi1 at soas.ac.uk Fri Nov 29 07:43:23 2002 From: bi1 at soas.ac.uk (bi1 at soas.ac.uk) Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 07:43:23 -0000 Subject: Lakota names for other people In-Reply-To: <305240-2200211428171228477@huntel.net> Message-ID: Thanks Richard. I had suspected something of the sort. Jan Ullrich suggestes allso that Chincakiza could be from ChaN icakiza and refer to some sort of musical instrument. It makes sense as it is kiza 'creak' not khiza 'fight', although I must say I hadn't noticed that before. Bruce On 28 Nov 2002, at 11:12, rlundy at huntel.net wrote: > > All, > It appears that "susuni" could be from "susu nice" which means "he > who is without testicals" but it could be a linguistic coincidence > and not Lakhota derived at all. > Richard C. Lundy > > ---- Original Message ---- > From: bi1 at soas.ac.uk > To: siouan at lists.colorado.edu > Subject: RE: Lakota names for other people > Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 08:59:05 -0000 > > >Does anyone have any explanation for the names Susuni > >'Shoshone' and ChiNcakhiza 'Apache'. Is Susuni and Shoshone the > >name of the people for themselves, because I have seen other > >native names for them. If not, presumably we got Shoshone from > >Susuni, which looks like an uncomplementary epithet in Lakota. > >ChiNcakhiza seems to be formed from ChiNca 'child' and Khiza > >'attack', but isn't readily interpretable. Usually Lakota names for > >others are fairly transparent. Any Lakotas ot Lakotanists on the > >line who might know? > > > >Bruce > > > >Dr. Bruce Ingham > >Reader in Arabic Linguistic Studies > >SOAS > > > > Tired of unwanted messages? Try E-Shield from HunTel.net. > www.HunTel.net/eshield. > > Dr. Bruce Ingham Reader in Arabic Linguistic Studies SOAS