Colors in Dakota

[Jimm GoodTracks]

I know that Bob is referring to Ioway-Otoe "duje" for "cooked; done; ripe".
However, for what it is worth, the color "red" in IOM is: "suje/ shuje".
jimm
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rankin, Robert L" <rankin at ku.edu>
To: <siouan at lists.colorado.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 4:26 PM
Subject: RE: Colors in Dakota


> "Good" comparativist might be asking a little much, but I think Dakotan
luta
> is cognate with the Dhegiha terms for 'ripe, cooked' rather than 'red'
> despite the meaning.  At least that's where the sound correspondences fit
> best.  The semantics leaves something to be desired, but it isn't
> unreasonable.  The Chiwere/Winn. cognates also are in the 'cooked, ripe'
> group.     Bob
>
> Dakotan:   luta <  'red'
> Omaha:   waníde   <  'something cooked'
> Ponca:   waníde   <  'something cooked'
> Kansa:        wajüje       <  'something cooked'
> Osage:        wacüce       <  'something cooked'
> Quapaw:        watítte       <  'something cooked'
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rory M Larson [mailto:rlarson at unlnotes01.unl.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 1:13 PM
> To: siouan at lists.colorado.edu
> Subject: Re: Colors in Dakota
>
>
>
> > I have never been able to get anyone to tell me the difference between
> sha
> > and luta for 'red', however, except to say that "luta" is restricted
> > to ceremonial contexts and/or names.
>
> While we're on the subject, could I get some good comparativist to tell me
> if Lakhota "luta" is equivalent to OP "zhide"?  They both mean 'red', and
> everything else matches except that I don't recall any other cases of
> Lakhota 'l' equating to OP 'zh'.
>
> Rory
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