Historical Explanation for *pi as Plural and Proximate and Nominalizer

[R. Rankin]

The analysis of /ob/ 'with' in the CSD is either Dick Carter's, David Rood's or
John Koontz's (I don't remember which), and I can't vouch for it.  I can and do
vouch for the Crow and Hidatsa forms, which were provided by Randy Graczyk and
Wes Jones respectively.  They match in both V and C.  Ob would have an anomalous
V; not a good sign.  Dakotan -api (reanalysed as just -pi after /a/ replaced /e/
in many verb forms) is a clear cognate however.

Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: "REGINA PUSTET" <pustetrm at yahoo.com>
To: <siouan at lists.colorado.edu>
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 3:40 PM
Subject: RE: Historical Explanation for *pi as Plural and Proximate and
Nominalizer


> --- "Rankin, Robert L" <rankin at ku.edu> wrote:
>
> >
> > The CSD file for this item also mentions the Dakotan
> > particle /ob/
> > 'with' as a possible cognate, in which case Dakotan
> > would have developed
> > doublets.
>
> If someone asked me to guess what the origin of ob
> 'with' might be, I'd spontaneously come up with the
> verb opha 'to join (someone in doing something)'.
> Lakota has lots of postpositions that have arisen from
> full verbs, which are often subject to truncation
> (i.e. the final vowel is dropped and the voicing of
> the now word-final consonant changes) in the process
> of grammaticalization. An example of this is kah^log
> 'though', which originates in kah^loka 'to pierce'.
>
> Regina
>
>
>
>
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