OP stative verb ablaut?

[CATCHES VIOLET]

John,
Thats interesting! In Lakxota when we use -wa- to talk about things, its
usually plural, because when we talk about a thing we use the name of the
thing and use wan. Wa is used for waspanyan a feast (wa-means the many/much
different foods) but, agxuyapi wan hel wate.

Violet

>From: Koontz John E <John.Koontz at colorado.edu>
>Reply-To: siouan at lists.colorado.edu
>To: siouan at lists.colorado.edu
>Subject: Re: OP stative verb ablaut?
>Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 20:10:02 -0700 (MST)
>
> > Rory wrote:
> > bi'ze   'dry'
> >
> >   oNbi'ze  'I am dry'
> >
> >   dhibi'ze  'thou art dry'     dhibi'za  'you all are dry'
> >
> >   wabi'ze  'we two are dry'    wabi'za  'we all are dry'
> >
> >   bi'ze  's/he is dry' (Obv.)  bi'za  'they are dry'
> >   bi'za  's/he is dry' (Prox.)
>
>It's interesting to see that the plural can be absent with the inclusive.
>I wonder if "we two" is "you and me" or "me and him" or both?  I'd expect
>the first or last.
>
> > Interestingly, while wa- is the affixed pronoun for P3 plural
> > in active verbs, it does not seem to be so used for P3 plural
> > in stative verbs.  I hadn't realized that before.
>
>Initially I went down the same path myself.  However, there just don't
>seem to be any examples of wa- as a P3 plural for statives.  In short,
>it's an object only form.
>
> > I hadn't realized that before.  Also, the proximate/obviative
> > distinction in 3rd person singular is alive and well marked in the
> > statives.  ...
>
>I'm relieved to hear that, though it might have been nice to have a way of
>distinguishing stative and "experiencer subject" verbs from each other
>easily. Great examples of its use, by the way.
>
> > The akha' is definitely not restricted to animate beings.
>
>The horse harness example also applies.  I still don't feel particularly
>close to understanding the articles ...  They remind me of Russian motion
>verbs.  They make perfect sense as each example is explained to me.
>

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