New topic -- stative pronouns with reflexives?

Jimm GoodTracks goodtracks at GBRonline.com
Wed Jan 14 17:37:38 UTC 2004


Yes!  As in IOM:
Na'we haki'ch^e ke.    I hurt my hand.
NYi ukik^un re.            Pour yourself some water.  [lit.= give yourself]
Aki'hta ke.                    I see myself.

Winn/ Hochank [from Ken M's]:
Hakic^gi's.                    I cut myself.
Hirara'kikara.                You take care of yourself.
Hakipe'nkn.                    They waited for each other.

Jimm

----- Original Message -----
From: "R. Rankin" <rankin at ku.edu>
To: <siouan at lists.colorado.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: New topic -- stative pronouns with reflexives?


> You mean they're still active, right?  Sorry, my original phraseology
leaves the
> answer ambiguous.
>
> Bob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jimm GoodTracks" <goodtracks at GBRonline.com>
> To: <siouan at lists.colorado.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 5:27 PM
> Subject: Re: New topic -- stative pronouns with reflexives?
>
>
> > They are in IOM (Chiwere), as well as in Winnebago/ Hochank.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "R. Rankin" <rankin at ku.edu>
> > To: <siouan at lists.colorado.edu>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 3:45 PM
> > Subject: New topic -- stative pronouns with reflexives?
> >
> >
> > > At LSA I was talking with David Rood and Soeren Wichmann (from
Denmark)
> > about
> > > Soeren's active-stative LSA paper.  He made the point, confirmed by
David,
> > that
> > > in Dakotan, reflexive verbs take the stative pronominal set as subject
> > prefixes.
> > > I don't know how that fact escaped me all this time, but I find it
very
> > strange
> > > indeed, since, in Dhegiha, reflexives of active verbs take the active
> > subject
> > > pronominals exclusively.
> > >
> > > So my question is:  In the other Siouan languages are subject
pronominals
> > of
> > > active verbs still active when the verb is reflexivized?
> > >
> > > Bob
> > >
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