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"Alfred W. Tüting" ti at fa-kuan.muc.de
Fri Oct 15 18:10:52 UTC 2004


 > (Anthony) Even in the Balkan language Kalaidzhi
Romani one finds: Dade amare, instead of Amare Dade. <<

I checked several versions in various Gypsie dialects and found both ways:

Rómanes (Germany)

Dad amaro,
so tu sal ando them,
kerveschno te ol tro anav,
tro vilago te al.
Oda te ol, so tu kameha
ando them taj te upri phuv.
Amaro diveseskero maro de amenge sako di
taj fa de amenge amare grihi,"
sar te amen fa das odalenge,
so amenge ertschavipe kerde.
Taj ma amen ledsche upro ertschavo drom,
harn pomoschin amenge ertschavipestar.

Rómanes (France/Alsace)

Maro Dat fun o bolepen
Tiro lap te vel brinžedo
Tur kontirepen te velo
Tur vila te veli kerdi
Ap i pup ar an o bolepen
De mende ko dives maro maaro fun ko dives
Cajre mare sindi ar cajra me nina kol ke prasa men Rike men kaj hi darenes
Le men vri fun o dsungelo.
Amen

Rómanes (Transylvania - Lutheran Roma)

Amaro Dad

Rómanes (Romania)

Amaro Dad, savo san ade bolipe, Teyavel arasno tiro lov, Teyavel tiro
rayan, Teyavel tiro kam. Sir pe bolipe, ad'a i pe phu.

De amenge, adadives, amaro sabdivesuno maro; I khem amenge amare dosha
Sir i ame khemas amare doshvalenge ;
I nalija amen ade perik Ne muk amen fuyipastar: Ad'a teyavel.

Vlach Romani (Romania, Serbia etc.)

Amaro Dad
kai san ande o cheri!
Ke tjiro anav t'avel svintsime;
ke tjiri amperetsia t'avel;
ketu keres sar tu kames pe e phuv sar ande o cheri.
De amenge adjes amaro manrro sakone djesesko.
Yertisar amenge amare bezexendar,
sar vi ame jertisaras kudalendar kai amisaile amende.
Na zurnav amen,
numa skipisar amen katar o xitro.
Ke tuke si, ande sa le BERSH kai avena,
e amperetsia, e zor thai o vestimos.
Amen.


Also checking my sources, I couldn't retrieve the form _dade_ up to the
moment. Is this kind of vocative?

BTW, this rendering reminds me of a Dakota version:

Amaro diveseskero maro de amenge sako di
Anpetu otoiyohi anpetu woyute unk7u po



Alfred



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