Rankin, Robert L
rankin at ku.edu
Wed Aug 23 18:04:27 UTC 2006
I had never heard of /gruba/, but I'll check Quapaw when I get home. Kaw doesn't have *loba 'all' unless in that '8' term, and I don't recall ever seeing it in OS, although Carolyn is the one who would know.
From: owner-siouan at lists.colorado.edu on behalf of Rory M Larson
Sent: Wed 8/23/2006 11:13 AM
To: siouan at lists.colorado.edu
Subject: RE: Osage 'eight'
>> Does Kaw reduce what in OP is gdh- to l-, as I believe happens with Osage? Could that -loba be equated to OP gdhu'ba, 'all', 'the whole thing'?
> Yes, it does. But 'all, whole' is /bloga/ in Kaw, so there's been some messing around with the initial cluster.
In Omaha, this and I believe a few other words seem to do some sound symbolic alternations between bdhVgV and gdhVbV. So we have bdhu'ga too for 'all', as well as gdhu'ba. I don't think we've figured out for sure quite what the difference is. I guess the question would depend on how far back in the Omaha/Dhegihan language lineage a *bro'ka/*gro'pa alternation existed.
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