Attn Rory

[Rankin, Robert L]

Well, Dorsey has quite a  bit of variability recorded in his Kaw and Osage notes.  It's possible globa and loba could have existed side by side just as glo and lo both meaning 'thunder' occur in his dictionary MS.  
 
I also noticed typing my notebooks today that kki(y)ado'ba, as given to me by Mrs. Rowe, would have 3rd syllable accent -- something that shouldn't be possible.  So maybe it's two phonological words: kia and doba.  Numerals are prone to have this pattern if you write the compound ones as single words.  Numbers in the teens, etc. have 3rd or 4th syll. accent if you write them alimi'xci, alinoNba', aliya'abliN, etc.

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From: Rory M Larson [mailto:rlarson at unlnotes.unl.edu]
Sent: Tue 8/29/2006 6:10 PM
To: Rankin, Robert L
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Cool!  Thanks for sharing that!

Of course, that probably wouldn't have anything to do with the original -loba suffix that started the thread, since that would have been before the simplification, right?

Rory


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We were looking thru the Dorsey Kaw materials here in Kaw City this afternoon and I ran across a file slip from between 1882 and 1890 for Kaw labeled "gluba" 'all, whole'.  Dorsey compared it to Omaha gdhuba.

I had asked Mrs. Rowe about it but she didn't recognize it.  Apparently somebody in the Kaw Nation did a century ago though.  Since that time Kansa has simplified the gl clusters.

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